In this episode of Engaging Truth, Pastor Trey Sansom talks with Pastor Travis Hartjen of Reclaimed Church in Justin, Texas, about why Jesus so often chooses ordinary people to accomplish extraordinary things. From fishermen and shepherds to King David and the Apostle Peter, Travis explores the biblical pattern of God working through the unlikely, the overlooked, and the imperfect.

Trey and Travis share personal stories of redemption, church planting, discipleship, and how God uses everyday followers of Jesus to reach people in ordinary places. This encouraging conversation reminds listeners that the Holy Spirit delights in reclaiming broken stories, redeeming past mistakes, and sending ordinary disciples into the world with the hope of Jesus Christ.

If you’ve ever felt unqualified, disqualified, or unsure whether God could use you, this episode is for you.