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Welcome to Animal Posse, the podcast dedicated to the
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people and rescues making a
difference in the lives of animals.
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Welcome everybody.
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We're gonna have an
interesting show today.
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We are gonna be welcoming Jeanette Garlow.
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She is the director for microchip help.com
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and also the co-director
for Lost Dogs Illinois
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. Jeanette: Hello.
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Dixie: Hi Jeanette.
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How are you?
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Jeanette: I'm good.
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Dixie: To get started, tell me
a little bit about yourself.
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Jeanette: This is Jeanette Garlow.
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I am the co-director
for Lost Dogs Illinois.
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I have been with Lost Dogs, Illinois
for nine years now, and I am also
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the director for Microchip Help.com
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and I have been with Microchip
help for nearly nine years as well.
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Started that almost a year after
my start with lost Dogs Illinois.
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And we reunite, lost and found
dogs with their families.
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Dixie: What prompted you to get involved
with helping people find their lost dogs?
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Jeanette: As most people in
animal welfare, i've always
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had a passion for dogs.
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Just even as a toddler, I
would gravitate to dogs.
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I have always had empathy for
dogs and shelters and I know, deep
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down that some of these animals
are there and don't belong there.
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That there's homes they belong in.
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And I had a friend about over
nine years ago who lost her
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dog and I was helping her.
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I was very involved with
helping her find her dog.
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And that's when I learned
about Lost Dogs Illinois.
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And just felt like that was
something that aligned with
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everything that I felt in my heart.
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That's how I got involved with the
organization, fell in love with what
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they do and that's where I started.
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Dixie: Yeah.
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I'm very passionate about helping
people find their pets as well.
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I started some groups on Facebook.
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Jeanette: Yeah.
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Dixie: Several years ago and I
got involved 'cause it's an easy
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way to help people from home,
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Jeanette: absolutely.
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Dixie: Everybody can do it.
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And I know I got in touch with you
because we had a cat pop up on our
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group and it had a microchip, but
the microchip didn't go anywhere.
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And that would be what's called
like a dead end microchip.
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And normally I'm pretty good
at tracking them, but with
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this one I got really stuck.
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So I sent that information over
to you and you were able to pull
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up that information right away.
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The cat did end up going home.
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We did find the owner and I know we
did tell the owner to go ahead and
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make sure that all the information
for the microchip was updated.
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Can you explain what a dead end
microchip is and why it is a common
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problem with pet reunification?
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Jeanette: Absolutely.
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So as I said, I'm the
director for microchip help.
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We have researched, oh, about 1500 chips
just last year of the dead end microchips.
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And what they are either a microchip
that is registered to an owner.
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The owner information has not been
updated either it's the same owner
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with a new address and phone number.
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They've moved, they haven't updated the
chip or it the owner had rehomed the dog.
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And therefore the information
is updated as well.
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Or we have many scenarios where the chip
has just never been registered and and.
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You have to look for the facility that
microchip the dog or cat and contact
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them, get the owner information.
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Sometimes that information
is also outdated.
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And then you have the scenario where
the microchip is just impossible to
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find even who the manufacturer or the
implant facility, person or facility
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that, that actually microchip the.
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Those are a little bit more of a challenge
but it without, we find that 30 to 40%
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of people don't ever register their
microchip and facilities and rescues.
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Assume that people go home and
follow directions, read the
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paperwork, call the chip company,
make sure their information's in.
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People get home, they're excited to
have their new animal, or they get
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home from picking up their animal
from a shelter after being reunited.
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If it's been missing a while, they forget.
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They don't think about
it, they don't realize.
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But super important to make sure that
even if you do register, that you
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call back later and make sure that
the information was input correctly.
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We're all human and sometimes
numbers are entered wrong.
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So we always suggest that, but
anytime you have an address or phone
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number changed, super critical that
you contact the chip company and
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change that information with them.
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That's really the only way that.
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That there's gonna be an easy way
for your animal to be reunited.
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If there's no ID tag on, which of course
we recommend ID tags first and foremost,
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and the microchip as well to back that up.
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'Cause those are sometimes missing.
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Super important.
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We also recommend you have an alternate
contact on your microchip that you trust,
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either a family member or a close friend
in case something happens to you or
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you're out of town, you can't be reached.
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And always make sure that gets
updated to somebody you trust as well.
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We've had cases where the alternate
contact was an ex and they really
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didn't own the dog anymore, but
they were contacted and picked
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the dog up and things like that.
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Super important to, to be aware of who
your microchip is registered to, and
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the contact information be current.
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Dixie: Can you take us like, I
guess through the beginning of
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basically like what is a microchip?
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For people that don't know
what a microchip is, and they
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always hear this term, you're
gonna get your pet microchipped.
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Or they adopt an animal from the shelter
and the shelter says, okay, it is
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microchipped Can you explain what that is?
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A little bit?
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Jeanette: So a microchip is about
the size of a grain of rice.
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It's implanted under the animal skin,
usually between the shoulder blades,
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and what they do is they each contain
a unique identification number.
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So when a lost pet is found, a microchip
scanner, which picks up the frequency of
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that microchip, reads the identification
number, and then it displays it on the
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screen so that microchip is supposed
to be registered with a database.
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Which links it to the
owner's contact information.
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So it's basically a little chip that,
that goes under the skin that contains
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a unique number, and that number is
linked to the owner if it's registered.
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Dixie: So if somebody picks up a
pet and the pet is microchipped,
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you'd wanna take it to a vet or a
scanning station and get it scanned.
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To see if it has a microchip.
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Jeanette: Yes.
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A vet, A lot of police departments
have scanners, animal control
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facilities can scan the dog, like you
said, a vet even like a pet smart,
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they oftentimes will have a scanner.
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But if you call around, you can almost
always find something really close by.
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And yes, as soon as that chip number comes
up on the scanner, that, so once you pull
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that chip number up, if you check Aha,
this is how it should work if you go onto
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the pet microchip lookup database online,
it will tell you where that microchip is
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registered, if it is registered, and then
you would call that microchip company and
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you would owner information from that.
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Super important to have your animal
microchip and, registered because
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without a caller, an ID tag on.
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That's really the only way
somebody can know that is your dog.
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Dixie: Absolutely.
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And another thing that I would like to
mention too, 'cause I think there's this
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misconception that a microchip is GPS.
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And it definitely is not GPS.
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So if your pet does go missing, you wanna
notify that microchip company as well
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to tell them that your pet is missing
because it doesn't have any kind of GPS.
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Yeah.
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You're not gonna be able to find
out from that microchip where
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your pet is actually located.
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Jeanette: Correct.
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People do think that they are
GPS also, but they are not.
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They have to physically be taken somewhere
to be scanned to get that chip number,
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and that's the only way you're gonna
to know if the dog has a microchip.
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Dixie: Now, have you ever come across
any situations to where the microchip has
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migrated to another portion on the body?
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I know they insert it between the shoulder
blades, but I have heard that they could
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also move like down the arm or a little
bit off to the side of the shoulder.
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Jeanette: Oh, yes, they definitely can.
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And yes, there's, we've
definitely run across that.
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A good facility will know to scan the
dog or cat thoroughly like an s pattern
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across their body from their shoulder
blades, to their back end and down their
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legs, up and down their legs as well.
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It does happen, see they're implanted
and they're supposed to grab into
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the muscle tissue right there.
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They do over time
sometimes they can migrate.
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And we always recommend once when
your dog is microchipped, to keep
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'em quiet for 24 hours, no baths.
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Not a lot of huge playful activity.
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'cause you know you wanna let that
kind of settle into the tissue.
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Dixie: Can you run us through the
process of somebody contacting
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you for a dead end microchip?
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What is step one?
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What do you do?
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And also is this something that
people can do at home on their own,
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Jeanette: On their own?
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Some of it they can, yes.
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If the chip is registered,
it should be an easy process.
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It's how it should work.
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So how we work?
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Let me explain I guess how it should
work and then what to do if it doesn't.
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So when a, when you find an animal,
if you get the dog scanned, and as
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I mentioned before, if the dog has
a microchip and you put the number
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into the pet microchip lookup tool.
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It's called aha.
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It's the American Animal
Hospital Association.
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They have a registry and it shows
where the chip is registered and it
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may show the chip is registered into
what company, along with the contact
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information for that chip company.
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or.
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It may show that the microchip is not
registered, but it might show you what
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company to call to find out who the
chip was sold to, like if it was sold
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to a vet, then you can contact the vet
clinic and find the owner information.
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Very often.
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When a good Samaritan finds an animal
and calls a vet clinic, they will try
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to contact the owner themselves rather
than giving out personal information.
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That is the same with same be
true for most chip companies.
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A lot of times the information is
private, but they will reach out to
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the owner for you and get in touch
with them and have them contact you.
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But.
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When you contact the microchip company,
they should be able to provide you
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who they sold the chip to so that
you can contact that facility.
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Or another scenario is when
you put the number in aha.
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It might show a list of manufacturers
that possibly manufactured the chip.
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And with those cases, very often
you're gonna have a dead end.
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And as I mentioned there's
different scenarios for dead end.
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It could be outdated information,
could be the dog was re-homed and the
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information isn't current again, or that
you can't find any owner information.
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So in that case.
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We recommend you submit to
us to microchip help.com.
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It's a quick jot form, so you
would just fill out that form.
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It comes to us directly, to
our nonprofit organization.
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And the case gets posted to our group.
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We have a group of about 20 volunteers
right now all across the nation.
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We do the same thing.
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We get the chip number from your jot form.
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It'll have all your information where
the dog was found, the microchip number,
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how long you're gonna hold the dog,
if the dog gets taken somewhere else.
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We get cases from shelters, police
departments that clinics as well.
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And we work with a lot of animal control
facilities throughout the nation.
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So we're pretty busy.
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I.
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But if you're a good Samaritan,
yes, you can take those steps, as I
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mentioned before, get the chip number,
check aha check if it's registered.
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Contact the chip company.
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If the chip company
contact the owner for you.
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Great.
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If they provide you information
some will, not all will.
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It depends if there's a privacy
on that information or not.
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So yes, you can do these things at
home, but when you hit a dead end,
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submitting the form to us is super
helpful because, and depending on the
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scenario when you submit it to us, as
I said, it gets posted to our group.
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We look up the same thing
that you would've done.
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We look up the chip number, we check
aha, we call the manufacturer, or
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we, we have agreements with them.
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So we get owner information.
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As a shelter or police department
would, animal control facility would,
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because of our nonprofit and because
of the work that we do we've made
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agreements with the chip company so the
information isn't held private from us.
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So we get the owner information or we, if
it's one of those chips where you couldn't
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figure out who the manufacturer was.
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We work really hard on trying to get
some information on who the chip came
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from, who the chip was sold to, trying
to get owner information that way.
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And we take that information if it's
outdated owner, if we have an owner's
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name and the information's outdated, we
have a few paid subscriptions that we use.
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And we do background searches skip
tracing, if you wanna call it that.
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And we work on reaching that
owner or a family member, people
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at the address things like that.
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We so we're really diligent
about trying to make sure that
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we have turned everything.
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That we can to find this owner.
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Yeah, ask, I think if there's
anything else that I missed.
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So yeah, that's basically
what we do in a nutshell.
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Dixie: I know it works.
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'cause like I said, I had that one that
I totally hit a dead end on and you were
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able to come through with that one now.
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Another thing too that I would like
to mention, just from like the chips
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that I have gotten and the groups that
I work on, 'cause sometimes people
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will contact me, give me the chip,
is I find a lot of times they'll take
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the animals maybe to a vet clinic.
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They'll get 'em scanned, they'll
start doing the process and they
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never ever hear from the owner.
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And so at that point they
start going into panic mode.
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I found that if at that point if I text
who the owner is, usually the owner will
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come through right away and reply to the
text and be like, oh yeah, that's my pet.
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I've been looking for my pet.
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So do you think it would be helpful
when you bring a lost pet to the
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vet's office to scan if it does scan
for a chip to tell them to maybe
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text the owner instead of calling?
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Because I think sometimes with the calling
they, you get those kind of robocalls and
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a lot of people just tend to ignore those.
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Jeanette: 100%.
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Yes.
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We work with one large animal
control facility and they do
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not have the capability to text.
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And I do feel that is a definite
detriment because you're right,
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people think everything's a scam.
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They don't answer, they
don't pay attention.
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I don't know if it.
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What the actual screen is
showing when those numbers call.
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But we find the same thing that
when we text and especially we
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like to text a photo of the animal
that it really makes a difference
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in the responses that you can get.
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We always call first just to
see if it's a working number.
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We listen to see if the owner.
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Has an outgoing message with their
name, so we know we've got the correct
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phone number because sometimes you're
calling and texting someone that
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you know the number really isn't
current, but you don't know that.
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So we always call first and then we
follow up with a text with why we're
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calling and with a photo of the animal.
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And it helps tremendously if the phone
number's correct and if it's not, they'll
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say, I'm sorry, this is the wrong number.
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She used to have this number
before, or something like that.
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So definitely, I agree with you
a hundred percent that texting.
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Is way better than the
phone calls and emails.
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We follow up with emails as well.
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But again, not everyone's
checking emails as often.
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So texting is definitely the
quickest and most successful way.
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We Facebook message, we do all
kinds of things to reach owners.
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We spend a lot of time,
exhausting everything we do.
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LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, anything
we can find on these owners just in
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case they're not getting the messages.
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If the phone numbers aren't
working and emails aren't going
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through and things like that.
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But yes, I agree.
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Texting is huge.
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I wish all the facilities
could start with that,
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Dixie: You said you have a
group about 20 volunteers.
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Do you ever recruit new volunteers
if people wanted to assist with this?
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Jeanette: Oh yeah.
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We're always open to
taking new volunteers.
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We like people that are self-starters,
don't mind making phone calls that like to
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do detective type of work and are adamant
about finding families non-judgmental.
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We don't judge the owners.
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We feel everyone should
be able to have a dog if.
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As long as they're not abusing
or neglecting, things like that.
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But yeah, we're always looking for
volunteers that fit that kind of slot.
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Dixie: Okay.
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I'll include a link to your
site too in the description so
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that way people can contact you.
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Jeanette: Thank you.
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Yeah.
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Dixie: If they're interested.
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So I'd like to move on to your work
with Lost Dogs of Illinois and,.
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If you could go over when your
pet goes missing, what are the
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top three things maybe that you
should do to try to locate your pet
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? Jeanette: We have a list of
five things people should do
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when their pet goes missing.
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So first thing we and these
aren't necessarily all in
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order, depends on the scenario.
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Dogs are missing from accidents,
car accidents, or from a pet
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sitter, things like that.
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But if the dog's missing from home we say
immediately put out food, water and your
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dog's bed or an article of your clothing.
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Even a used pillowcase at the
location where your dog was last seen.
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A lot of times dogs will circle
around and come, just come back
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to the area they took off from.
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That's just their instinctual.
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Pattern.
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If they're chased however, or,
pushed out of the area for whatever
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reason then, that's harder for
them to make their way back.
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But scent items are huge.
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So food, water, your dog's
bed, or an article of clothing.
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Then we also suggest getting the
word out by flyers and yard signs.
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We suggest going door to door, giving
flyers to everyone in the area.
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Having a picture and a phone
number on that flyer is huge.
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All over the neighborhood.
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Then we say contact your local
animal shelters and animal control
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facilities, vet clinics in your
area, and definitely report your
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missing dog to the police department.
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We recommend if you can either
email them or bring over flyer
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a flyer of the, of your dog too.
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So they have picture, very important.
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We say instruct everyone that's helping
you not to call or chase your dog.
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When a dog's been missing for a while,
they go into flight mode, fight or flight
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mode, and they won't even sometimes
recognize an owner right away because
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they've been, out for a while and they're
just trying to stay safe and get food.
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Just trying to cover their basic
needs and they're not really
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paying attention to who it is.
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They're just.
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Taking off whenever
anybody tries to pursue.
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So we instruct that anyone that is
helping you and anyone in the area not
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call or chase a dog we recommend luring.
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So sitting down with treats
waiting for the dog to come to you.
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And then obviously post to PetFBI.org,
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which is our sister
organization that will.
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Get your dog registered and posted
to Lost Dogs Illinois right away.
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They are our database and lost Dogs.
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Illinois is our Facebook page.
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We send tips and flyer templates ready for
you guys to print, for anybody to print.
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So you don't have to worry
about trying to make those up.
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They're ready.
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You send them to you, you just print them.
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But social media.
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Is huge.
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Next door is huge.
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Any of the local often found
Facebook groups are very important.
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Not everyone's on social media.
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So the flyers are number one
to get everyone in the area
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able to see your animal.
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Making your dog famous is what we say.
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Yeah.
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So those
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are really the five things.
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Yep.
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Dixie: So you said that you
should always go to the shelter in
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person to go look for your animal
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Jeanette: the stray holds, can be short.
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If your dog is not microchipped it
could be three days for the stray hold.
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So we recommend you go in person.
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Definitely keep checking the
website, but if you can go in
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person at least once every few days,
you know , it's really helpful.
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Dixie: Now, would this be true, even
if your dog is microchipped, would
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you still go check the shelters?
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Jeanette: If it were my dog, I
would go still check their shelters.
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Microchips can be missed.
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It's not super common,
but they can be missed.
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And especially as we talked about,
they can migrate it's not 100%.
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And you may think your chip is registered
and maybe it isn't, or, maybe the
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phone number was entered wrong or maybe
the shelter overlooked the research.
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If it were my dog, yes, I
would say definitely go every
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once, at least every once.
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Every three days or so
just to, for peace of mind.
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At some point if your dog's
missing a long time, that might
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not be something you can do.
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But definitely check the microchip.
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I mean that, that's on the list as well.
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I guess I skipped over that, but
definitely when you're contacting
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animal shelters and all that, make
sure you contact the chip company
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and report your dog is missing.
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Dixie: I agree with you too on that.
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And I find too that people don't
understand that a lot of the times
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the shelter staff is also very busy.
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When an animal comes in, they may not
be able to scan the animal right away,
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or they may quickly scan the animal, and
if the chip has migrated, then you know,
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they may not actually detect the chip.
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I've heard of a couple of situations
where the chips can actually go bad
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after a certain amount of time as well.
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Jeanette: I've heard
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that, but I have not.
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Actually ever had evidence of that.
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So I cannot confirm or deny that.
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I have never heard someone say, my dog
is chipped, but the chip didn't work.
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In nine years I have not come across that.
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So I can't confirm or deny that.
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But I will say that, sometimes
animals have been, dogs are
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cats have been scanned in.
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When they come into the shelter
and they've found no chip, but they
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also scan when leaving with a rescue
and then the chip is detected.
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So again, chips can be missed.
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And I have definitely
had that scenario happen.
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I wouldn't say often, but occasionally.
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So you know, don't always
100% rely on that microchip.
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Dixie: And I can see how that could happen
too, because it is a frequency, so if
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it's a chip and the scanner doesn't have
that particular frequency to detect it,
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then you know, it could just be a matter
of the scanner that's being used as well.
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Jeanette: It could be.
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I would hope that the facilities are
using the scanners , that can scan all
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the frequencies that are out there.
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They should be using the correct ones.
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But, there are things that interfere with
scanning too, if you're around a lot of
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metal it, there are scenarios for sure.
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Dixie: Now when it comes to
people finding dogs, what are
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the first steps they should take?
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Jeanette: So similar we still always
suggest flyers but we have our five
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things to do if you find a dog as well.
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If you go to our website, you could see
that, but you just, obviously you check
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if the dog has an ID tag on, take the dog
to the nearest shelter or veterinarian's
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office to scan for a microchip.
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Notify the police department animal
control facilities to make sure that the
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owner hasn't reported the dog missing.
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Call the animal control agency to complete
a found dog report or bring a flyer to
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them same as you would for a lost dog.
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Create lost or found dog flyers.
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Post them around the area.
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Very important 'cause not everybody,
again, is on social media.
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And then again, post to
our group pet fbi.org
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to, to get the dog.
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Registered and posted to Lost
Dogs Illinois or whatever
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state the dog is missing from.
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And next door we always recommend, and
the local lost and found Facebook groups.
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There's a lot of Facebook groups now for
all different kinds of lost and found
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pets and there, a lot of local pages.
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So those can be super helpful.
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But again, not everyone's on social
media, so the flyers are really important.
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So that's really those five
things are what we recommend.
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Dixie: I know a lot of people tend
to lose hope when they do lose a dog.
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So do you see an average amount of
time with a reunification happening?
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Jeanette: I wouldn't say there's
an average amount of time.
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But we do tend to, the more you make
your dog famous, the more likely.
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The dog will get home,
as quickly as possible.
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We have cases of dogs missing
for, a couple hours to a couple
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of days, to a couple of years.
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There's really all kinds of scenarios.
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The microchip obviously is when they're
gone for a longer period of time.
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That is really the key
to getting your dog home.
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Dixie: Absolutely.
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And one thing that I did wanna end
on too before we close out this
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conversation is that I know a lot of
people, they're always, oh, I'm busy.
469
00:28:37,908 --> 00:28:39,648
I can't volunteer with a group.
470
00:28:39,648 --> 00:28:43,848
I'd love to help animals, but I can't
help animals because I'm busy with work.
471
00:28:44,388 --> 00:28:50,178
But what you do with the Lost Dogs
Illinois, and then the microchip help.
472
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That's all stuff that you can do.
473
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From home and so you
could do it on your own.
474
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Absolutely.
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Time schedule, especially like with
the Lost Dogs, any of the lost pets,
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you can go scour through the Lost Pets
groups and just do what I call matching.
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You go look for photos of found
pets and you compare 'em with lost
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pets, and a lot of the times that's
how these pets are getting home.
479
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So do you have any concluding
message for people and can you give
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us more information on how people
can get involved with your groups?
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Jeanette: Yeah, of course.
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If you're in Illinois Lost Dogs, Illinois
is always looking for people to help
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our volunteers actually pick up shifts.
484
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So you can pick times that work for you.
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00:29:38,933 --> 00:29:42,533
You can do hour, an hour,
two hours, however many hours
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you wanna put in on a shift.
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00:29:44,723 --> 00:29:49,503
And we have a calendar, our volunteers
put themselves in those shifts.
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00:29:50,583 --> 00:29:54,853
When you take those shifts, you
cover incoming loss and found dogs.
489
00:29:55,333 --> 00:30:01,113
You message owners you send flyers
to them, give tips what to do.
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So anybody really can do that because you
can really make your own time, make your
491
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own schedule for when you're available.
492
00:30:11,923 --> 00:30:15,613
We, weekends, evenings,
we work around your work.
493
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So very easy to do.
494
00:30:18,043 --> 00:30:21,453
And then as far as and to
volunteer for Lost Dogs, Illinois,
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you just go on our website, we
have an application form there.
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pet fbi.org
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Is our partner organization.
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They are our database.
499
00:30:30,343 --> 00:30:33,043
They have their Facebook
pages for different states.
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So if you are in another state,
you can go to pet fbi.org
501
00:30:36,613 --> 00:30:38,533
and sign in volunteer application There.
502
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And then for microchip help.com,
503
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if you go to our website,
it's near the bottom.
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There is also a form to volunteer with us.
505
00:30:49,403 --> 00:30:53,633
It's a little different as far as time
commitment because when you pick up
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a case, you're not gonna know whether
you're gonna reach an owner in five
507
00:30:57,563 --> 00:31:03,023
minutes or you're gonna be working
on trying to find family members or
508
00:31:03,083 --> 00:31:05,873
some connections to other people.
509
00:31:06,413 --> 00:31:08,153
You could be working on it for days.
510
00:31:08,463 --> 00:31:12,033
I hate to say that, but it happens very
often where you don't hear back from
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anyone and you're just trying and trying.
512
00:31:14,193 --> 00:31:15,063
We don't give up.
513
00:31:15,603 --> 00:31:16,983
So we do spend a lot of time.
514
00:31:16,983 --> 00:31:18,513
That's a little different scenario.
515
00:31:18,513 --> 00:31:22,063
But again, when you pick up a case,
you pick up a case when you have time.
516
00:31:22,063 --> 00:31:24,433
There are definitely ways to get involved.
517
00:31:24,493 --> 00:31:28,393
As you said, the matchmaking that
isn't an actual position that we have.
518
00:31:28,393 --> 00:31:32,043
But we have a lot of fans that
go to our page and kind of
519
00:31:32,043 --> 00:31:33,863
do that stuff on their own.
520
00:31:33,863 --> 00:31:39,023
Then they comment on our posts and
they've matched many dogs that way.
521
00:31:39,263 --> 00:31:43,428
Whatever your level of commitment
is . It all helps for a team takes
522
00:31:43,428 --> 00:31:48,378
a village to get these animals home
and any help is always appreciated.
523
00:31:49,918 --> 00:31:53,218
Dixie: Thank you for the work that
you do and I, like I said, I can
524
00:31:53,218 --> 00:31:56,368
definitely attest that it works
because you did get a cat home.
525
00:31:57,939 --> 00:31:58,629
Jeanette: Thank you.
526
00:31:58,869 --> 00:31:59,889
And we loved helping.
527
00:32:00,489 --> 00:32:03,129
Dixie: Thank you so much, Jeanette,
for speaking with me today.
528
00:32:03,129 --> 00:32:04,239
I truly appreciate it.
529
00:32:04,239 --> 00:32:04,899
Jeanette: You're welcome.
530
00:32:04,989 --> 00:32:05,829
Thank you so much.
531
00:32:06,399 --> 00:32:09,639
Dixie: Now, before we end this episode
, I just wanted to go over some of
532
00:32:09,639 --> 00:32:12,929
the tips if you lost an indoor cat.
533
00:32:13,229 --> 00:32:16,889
We covered some of the tips for dogs,
so I just quickly wanted to go over some
534
00:32:16,889 --> 00:32:19,379
things that would be pertinent for cats.
535
00:32:19,619 --> 00:32:23,009
And the reason I say indoor only is
because if it's an indoor outdoor
536
00:32:23,009 --> 00:32:27,389
cat, it changes things a bit
because your cat is outside already.
537
00:32:27,719 --> 00:32:32,459
So for an indoor outdoor cat,
your cat may have been trapped.
538
00:32:32,814 --> 00:32:35,994
Your cat may have accidentally
hitched a ride with somebody
539
00:32:35,994 --> 00:32:37,584
and ended up somewhere else.
540
00:32:37,884 --> 00:32:43,044
So the first tip specifically is
gonna be for indoor only cats, and
541
00:32:43,044 --> 00:32:45,144
that has a lot to do with scent.
542
00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:52,059
A lot of people will tend to put a scent
item outside, like dirty towels or dirty
543
00:32:52,059 --> 00:32:58,719
clothes some stinky cat food, like tuna or
something that your cat really likes, and
544
00:32:58,719 --> 00:33:02,199
Those scent items that you would put
outside definitely are gonna help.
545
00:33:02,589 --> 00:33:08,559
But with an indoor cat, your indoor cat
is most likely hiding really close by.
546
00:33:08,889 --> 00:33:14,079
So I find that the best thing to
do is actually just lock up any
547
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:15,759
other pets that you may have.
548
00:33:16,404 --> 00:33:20,514
Open the door, put your scent item
right by your door, and most of the
549
00:33:20,514 --> 00:33:22,764
time your cat is gonna run back in.
550
00:33:23,374 --> 00:33:26,284
And then of course, you'd wanna follow
through with the other things that
551
00:33:26,284 --> 00:33:31,774
Jeanette suggested as well, like calling
the shelter, doing your flyers, not
552
00:33:31,774 --> 00:33:35,464
chasing your cat because your cat is
gonna be terrified , even though this
553
00:33:35,464 --> 00:33:37,384
might be the sweetest cat inside.
554
00:33:37,849 --> 00:33:42,169
If you're outside, your cat is not knowing
what's going on, and your cat's still
555
00:33:42,169 --> 00:33:45,859
gonna be scared of you, so you wanna
just lay low and let the cat come to you.
556
00:33:46,129 --> 00:33:51,599
Don't try to go grab your cat,
you may have to use a humane trap.
557
00:33:52,454 --> 00:33:54,824
I do find that works most of the time.
558
00:33:55,154 --> 00:33:58,574
'cause your cat will get hungry, you put
it really close to your house wherever you
559
00:33:58,574 --> 00:34:01,724
have someplace that they could be hiding,
like some bushes or something like that.
560
00:34:02,394 --> 00:34:08,484
and if you follow those tips, most of the
time you can get your indoor cat home.
561
00:34:08,514 --> 00:34:11,844
But I'm gonna say opening
that door, that's a thing
562
00:34:11,844 --> 00:34:13,043
that seems to work the best.
563
00:34:13,043 --> 00:34:16,434
So thanks everybody for listening
and we'll catch you next week.
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00:34:16,434 --> 00:34:16,643
Bye.
565
00:34:17,178 --> 00:34:20,898
If you are enjoying our show, please
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566
00:34:21,228 --> 00:34:24,058
A hundred percent goes to our animals.
567
00:34:26,757 --> 00:34:29,178
Paws in
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00:34:32,007 --> 00:34:40,547
the night Claws in the
fight Whiskers twitch and
569
00:34:42,568 --> 00:34:43,338
tails
570
00:34:45,797 --> 00:34:46,467
take flight
571
00:34:46,523 --> 00:34:52,873
They’re calling in Stories to spin
From the wild to the heart within
572
00:34:53,893 --> 00:34:59,443
Broken wings and hopeful springs
We’re the voices for these things
573
00:34:59,908 --> 00:35:03,548
animal posse hear the call.
574
00:35:05,208 --> 00:35:06,588
We stand together.
575
00:35:07,808 --> 00:35:19,668
Big and small Rescue tales We’ve
got it all Animal posse Saving
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00:35:21,748 --> 00:35:22,168
them
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00:35:28,038 --> 00:35:28,158
all
578
00:35:28,448 --> 00:35:35,108
The vet’s got tips The rescuer’s
grit The foster homes where love
579
00:35:35,108 --> 00:35:47,218
won’t quit From a pup in the rain to
a bird in pain , Every soul’s worth
580
00:35:49,493 --> 00:35:49,693
the
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00:35:52,053 --> 00:35:53,873
strain
582
00:35:54,138 --> 00:35:57,048
Animal posse
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00:36:02,018 --> 00:36:06,328
Hear the call
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00:36:09,088 --> 00:36:12,978
We stand together Big
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00:36:15,018 --> 00:36:23,398
and small Rescue tales We’ve got
it all Animal posse Saving them all
586
00:36:23,708 --> 00:36:29,818
Every caller tells a tale, every
howl a whispered wail, we rise up.
587
00:36:30,278 --> 00:36:30,938
We never
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00:36:35,358 --> 00:36:35,518
fail.
589
00:36:38,308 --> 00:36:38,398
This
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00:36:40,458 --> 00:36:40,518
is
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00:36:42,938 --> 00:36:42,998
the
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00:36:49,318 --> 00:36:51,458
bond
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00:36:54,238 --> 00:36:55,968
The holy grail
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00:36:55,998 --> 00:37:11,344
Animal posse Hear the call We stand
together Big and small Rescue tales We’ve
595
00:37:11,344 --> 00:37:20,113
got it all Animal posse Saving them all
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00:37:20,163 --> 00:37:27,428
Every caller tells a tale Every howl
a whispered wail We rise up We never
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00:37:27,428 --> 00:37:31,298
fail This is the bond The holy grail.
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