Pope Adrian V, bound hands and feet to the ground, sets out to answer the pilgrim Dante's second question: What's going on here?

In doing so, the pope unwittingly gives one of the most misunderstood lines in PURGATORIO.

Join me, Mark Scarbrough, as we explore more of this conversation with the first (and only) pope we meet on Mount Purgatory.

Here are the segments for this episode of WALKING WITH DANTE:

[01:52] My English translation of the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 115 - 124. If you'd like to read along or continue the conversation with me, please find this episode on my website, markscarbrough.com.

[03:43] Punishment v. purification . . . and their contrapasso.

[06:33] The bitterness of the pain.

[09:42] Bitterness and falconry.

[12:53] The transformation of the soul . . . momentarily stopped.

[14:06] The avaricious v. the envious.

[16:17] Rereading the passage: PURGATORIO, Canto XIX, lines 115 - 126.