If you follow Allison Kuch online, you probably know her for her humor, her honesty, and the way she makes real life feel a little less lonely. She’s an influencer, podcast host, interior designer, and NFL wife whose career grew from one simple idea: tell the truth.

In this episode, Allison and I talk about the stories behind the highlight reel: what it feels like when your husband loses his job in the league, how motherhood has changed her, and why she keeps sharing even when she’d rather log off. 

From marathon training to postpartum depression, Allison opens up about the tension between gratitude and exhaustion, love and growth, public life and private moments.

What You’ll Hear:

• Life as an NFL wife, and what fans don’t see  (06:45)
• Building community through honesty (12:09)
• Marriage, money, and identity in transition (19:18)
• Postpartum truths and new boundaries (25:37)
• The marathon of balancing work, motherhood, and self (33:22) 

Tune in to hear Allison share about how she and her husband, former NFL defensive end Isaac Rochelle, have learned to navigate big changes together, from sudden team moves to new seasons of parenthood. 

If you’ve ever wondered how someone can stay grounded while living such a public life, this one’s for you. Allison’s story is a reminder that authenticity is powerful, community is built through honesty, and sometimes success looks like giving yourself permission to be real.

You can watch this interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/r8cgSusCNJA 

For a full transcript and more, check out our blog post: https://www.lindsaycz.com/show-notes/allison-kuch-24  

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[00:00:17] But I think it's also good that people see that. I'm not doing well and cut through that. Like, oh, social media's perfect and everything is curated. No, it was me recording in the car, being like, I love my daughter, but I'm so unhappy. Like, how can these two things be true? And have so many women relate to that and be like, thank you for sharing.

[00:00:58] Lindsay: Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Things No One Tells You. We also love to call it TNOTY for short. I have been waiting to be able to share this episode because I am such a fan of this guest and especially the work that she does, because if anyone out there is interested in sports or broadcasting or marketing, honestly, this is an example of where the future is going and how she is just an entrepreneur, a businesswoman to her core.

[00:01:43] She is an influencer. She is also an NFL wife, and she is married to Isaac Rochelle, who played in the NFL for seven years. What she has done is. Realized the power of sharing her true, authentic story. And she, for a while now, has been bringing people behind the scenes on what her journey's like.

[00:02:24] but besides that, she really is talking about a stuff about stuff that makes a difference, that matters, that is relatable. And when you're talking about behind the scenes in sports. That is so awesome, the veil that she's been able to live from her perspective, her unique perspective, but also the other things that she is being able to do as part of her job.

[00:03:02] Thank you so much. Where are you? Let's start there. Yeah. It looks exciting behind you.

[00:03:22] like I have to wear a sweatshirt over my tank top. Oh. And then I take it off midday. But I'm feeling like it's crisper air.

[00:03:38] What is Halloween like for you guys?

[00:03:46] Lindsay: Yes. And his training. It's been so fun watching you document that. What has that been like from you guys for you guys? My husband ran it.

[00:03:58] Allison: I didn't realize how much time marathon training takes up because you have a long run every week, and that can be, I mean, it goes 10, 11, 12 miles, and then all the way up to 20, and I'm like, oh, you're gonna be gone for a majority of the morning.

[00:04:29] Seriously, why? I don't know. I just feel like it's like everybody working towards the same goal like, and I think it's like 1% of all people actually commit to running a full marathon or completing a marathon. So, I don't know. I'm really excited.

[00:04:53] Allison: I've always hated running, actually.

[00:04:55] Allison: No, I, but I do love working out, and I love the feeling after working out. And I think in my adult life, I like the idea of working out with a goal in mind, like aimlessly working out doesn't sound fun to me. Like, I like working out, but I really wanted to have a goal in mind, and this is what we're doing?

[00:05:27] Okay. I am, I'm just so excited to like. To really hear like, what, besides the marathon that you are up to now, too, because following your career, what I love so much is like, we are in the middle of football season. You are busting your tail doing all these different amazing jobs, right? And I also think it's really cool that Isaac is doing work as a broadcaster.

[00:05:48] Lindsay: Is, which is,

[00:05:53] Lindsay: Yeah. And is he loving it as much, like, would really?

[00:06:08] Right? Like. You kind of have to be with your team. You have to be at practice. Like, there are all these stipulations to getting better, and then you have to rely on other people on your team. Whereas in broadcasting, he's like, Oh, I know how to do this. Like, I know how to talk about sports. Yeah, a bunch of my friends are still playing.

[00:06:28] Lindsay: Also, like, yeah, the insight that he can give is like, I feel like that's also one of the things that separates, is like, are you like being a part of the teams on the sidelines? It's like the analysts that come in that are not afraid to, not that they're talking negatively, but like give the real deal and be like, here's what it is, you know.

[00:07:04] You get really caught up in what they're talking about, 'cause it's really interesting stuff. You're watching the game, you're looking behind the scenes, obviously, but I would be like, get caught up in a conversation that they're having and be like, oh, that's really good stuff. And then I'd be like, oh wow, that guy's not gonna be happy with, you know, with so and so.

[00:07:31] Allison: We met almost 11 years ago. Yeah, maybe 12 years ago. So we met back in 2014 in college.

[00:07:43] Allison: We met at a college party. I was actually down. I went to Michigan State. I was down visiting my sister's, then boyfriend, who played football at Notre Dame, and he had been in our family for a few years, so I looked at him.

[00:08:15] Lindsay: Well, who made the first move?

[00:08:25] Lindsay: And his response, do you remember, what was his response?

[00:08:35] Lindsay: I love it. Wait, and then, so, okay, so flash forward, and he's drafted to the NFL. Like,, what was that whole experience like for you guys and how did that sort of morph because of like where your relationship was at the time?

[00:09:03] It's a stressful one. It's also like another team could make a move, and all of a sudden, you keep dropping down. Yeah, and that's happened. I mean, so many times you see the storylines all the time, so it was very stressful. We thought he was gonna go, I think in like the third or fourth round, and didn't go until the seventh, so it was a long day.

[00:09:41] he had someone there at the time who had gone through the draft process the year prior, and he was like, Hey, let's go out and get lunch, like your phone, we can still get phone reception at lunch. So we left all the family friends, and it was just him, a teammate, my sister, and me, and we went out to lunch, and it was honestly pretty relaxing.

[00:10:06] Lindsay: Oh my gosh. And then that was before he actually was picked.

[00:10:18] So, do you wanna come to us as a free agent? And he was like, " Oh, like cool, I guess I'm not getting drafted. And so he was like, let's just go back. Let's get our family. At least I'm, I have a team, let's go celebrate. I mean, I think it was like pick two 50 or two 70, and the Chargers called like literally as the draft was about to end.

[00:10:55] Lindsay: What was it like, what would you say that reaction was like as a whole for you guys in that moment? Was it like, you know, did it take a minute to?

[00:11:12] He's going to a team. So there were a few minutes where I was like, What team is he going to? Like, I don't feel like I'm involved in this. And I was like, didn't wanna interrupt his phone call, obviously. So it was kind of like a whirlwind of emotions, but then obviously we were so excited and we went out that night, celebrated with some dinner, and I mean, everybody was just so ecstatic.

[00:11:58] and then like when did you start really sharing or making the choice of like, I'm gonna actually like share some of this stuff, and, knowing that you've talked about this so much, but I'm just curious along the journey, like where it started.

[00:12:12] I feel like I've started. I started my YouTube channel way back when I was in college. And like me and Isaac had just started dating, but it had nothing to do with football. Yeah. And I think. Just like my life, as I got older, I looked at it more like, Oh, I love that. I love doing that.

[00:12:52] It got raw and real. Do you remember the first time? I think I wanna say like the first time that I was actually vulnerable on social media was when my husband was released from the Cleveland Browns. That was like, I am, this is very real. This happened within the past 30 minutes. I'm going on social media.

[00:13:34] And then, so I think people were interested in that, but then there was like another side that was like, you're not allowed to be upset. That's not your job. And I was like, wait, hold on. This is very real for me, too.

[00:13:58] Everyone's got their own story, you know? Yeah. And, I love it like when you're even talking to someone who is like, people know that person so much. They've had, maybe they've been to a Super Bowl, what have you, and then it's like you hear some backstory or something that they struggle with. And I think that's where, you know, the vulnerability, I guess, is so what connects us all, as you know very well.

[00:14:27] Allison: I know that, like, I definitely walked a line of like sharing but not oversharing to the point where it would make my husband uncomfortable. Coaches would be like, wait, what the fuck is she saying? So I walked a line. But I knew that, like. Whatever I had posted, I just knew that my husband would not be upset with what I was posting. Yeah. And what I was sharing at the time was like very public information. Like the Browns were like, Hey, we're releasing Isaac Elle for So I was like, I guess I'm just helping the storyline move forward.

[00:15:15] That's actually really interesting. And I did, I hadn't thought about that until just now. I also love it, so for folks that don't know, Sunday Sports Club is Allison's podcast. It is so good. It's so good. So, your most recent episode that I listened to, where you were talking to Whitney, who's an NFL wife, you guys were talking about how the first.

[00:15:44] Allison: Oh my gosh, yes. My husband's first year in the NFL, we actually took a break just because I was still in college. Oh yeah. I'm very public about that, too. Yeah. I was still in college, and he was in the NFL and so he was like in real life, and I was in make-believe life.

[00:16:25] So he was living like stressed. I don't know if I'm gonna make the team, very real-life shit. And I'm like, do like another midterm, like here we go. So I feel like we were also not aligned. Not that we were not aligned, but it was just like that. It. We had been together for so long that we, I also feel like we grew kind of codependent.

[00:17:05] Lindsay: How did you ultimately get beyond that?

[00:17:28] Lindsay: I thought it was really interesting because it also made me think about my husband taking a new job. In January, right. And it was like this big sort of dream job, and I am, I'm like, you know, it's very much, it's such a reality that you have to recalibrate and like figure out what your processes are.

[00:18:07] You know, like having, you know, we have two kids, so I'm like, oh, and then there's that part of it. But it's you don't think, 'cause you're so in the weeds with all of it, or you're in the weeds like you are, like, you know, considering the move for where whatever city you're in. I think it's really interesting that whole growth component, you know?

[00:18:40] Lindsay: Right. Like, figure out the process to kind of work on that.

[00:18:46] Allison: Together? Yeah. And how does this make us stronger? Yeah. Its life is hard.

[00:19:07] Hell, like you can go a month just sort of feeling like sometimes you're on a conveyor belt of like just busy lives, busy schedules, traveling here, traveling there, whatever it is, and it's crazy.

[00:19:33] Isaac is the type who likes to talk about it. He likes to marinate it, he likes to vent about it, and I deal with stress is in. Don't talk about it. And I'm like, I need to find a solution as soon as possible to at least alleviate this a little bit. And so we're different in those ways, which I feel like they're good together.

[00:20:11] but I definitely, it's funny on my 2025, which 2025 is almost over, I have it as a goal to go start going to couples therapy just because like, again, life is hard and I think somebody giving you these communication tools or like different tools to allow yourselves to like communicate properly is so helpful. 100%.

[00:20:52] No. 'cause it's always when you're getting to the good stuff. No, I'm kidding. I do think, though, that it's great. It's funny because yeah, with us, like I've realized that if I bring something to the table by nature, my husband, like, wants to be a fixer. So sometimes I think it's like you have to think through, like, Hey, I actually can, you just listen.

[00:21:17] Allison: I don't. Yeah, I feel like that can be my husband sometimes, too. He's like, I don't need you to go out and fix it. I don't need you to call the Browns GM and tell him how upset I am, but I do need you to listen and let me vent about this for a few minutes.

[00:21:31] Lindsay: Okay, so what is? Can you give us a little snapshot just into what some of those, I guess, rollercoaster moments have been, like, exciting or otherwise, just being the wife of an NFL player, things that you have experienced, whether it's the moves, the, you know.

[00:22:10] We got tore aligned, we were. We're like, okay, this is a temporary place. We bought our home that we're currently living in back in 2021. So we always knew this was our home base. So then every place after we bought our home, I think that was Cleveland and Vegas, we were like, this is temporary. It's gonna be okay if we don't.

[00:22:53] Wow. Because I was like, oh no, I need to make this home. And then I started to realize, like, okay, no, my husband is my home. I have my home in California. Everything else is like, we'll figure it out.

[00:23:13] Allison: It was hard. It was hard because I, surprisingly enough, know I'm like very loud and outgoing in person and on social media in person. I am super like, oh, I don't wanna be the one to like talk. I feel like I'm really, until I get to know somebody. So my husband usually dominates a lot of the conversation; that man can talk to a wall.

[00:23:54] So I know, like. I just needed like one or two people, one or two people to be like, Hey, let's hang out one or two people to go to a game with. I didn't, I wasn't looking for like a huge friend group. I just needed one or two people who understood what I was going through, and I always found those people.

[00:24:27] The season begins is training camp, and they have like family and friends open practices. So I would always like kind of be familiar with like who was on the team who had a sign, significant other, but then roster cuts happen. So, like those people might not even be here in a few weeks. 'Cause yeah. Even us.

[00:24:55] Lindsay: Oh, wow. And then in a game, is it kinda like you're all, you'd all be with the family area, per se?

[00:25:16] Other teams didn't really have that.

[00:25:37] Allison: It's way more organic than you would probably think. Yeah. Like, I didn't have a game plan, I didn't have a like strategy. I was like, Oh, what's happening today? Oh, well, I am six months pregnant. My husband just signed with the Raiders. I'm alone. I'm going to my anatomy scan alone. Let's record this.

[00:26:04] Lindsay: Yeah. And you're like in just documenting it. What did, what was the response that you started getting, especially just, you know, from being so vulnerable?

[00:26:15] Interested in the lifestyle because yeah. When it comes to NFL players, typically people only think of the high-paid players because those are the people who are usually very public. And I think I was providing insight into a very different side of the NFLA. Very real, more raw, more cutthroat, and anything think people were really interested in.

[00:26:59] I love my husband, so I'm going to move with him. And this is just me sharing, like the struggle. Am I blessed that he has a great job, and he loves his job, and he's in the NFL? Absolutely. But like moving two weeks before your due date, probably not the most beautiful experience. So there can be two, two things can be true.

[00:27:38] And then after that, it started to become more and more unstable as the years went by, as with any NFL career. So I think it was just the normal trajectory of like. Real life is happening. Those like stories that the stories and the people you were friends with, and all this stuff happened to the first four years, now it's happening to you.

[00:28:10] Lindsay: Yeah. And when, like when you look in hindsight, I, that's such an interesting point too, because it's like I do that with my own journey.

[00:28:32] And they were like, We're, do not worry. Like we've got you. We're gonna, you know, make sure that you know what you need to know. And I found it so fascinating and interesting because I sort of had to learn the ins and outs of that sport from the ground up with the team, because my station was partners with the team, which, now when I look back, I'm like, thank God that was the scenario, because it was really.

[00:29:13] And I realized like, oh my God, like there are. So many different backgrounds in a locker room. There are, it is so different the way the upbringing is, you know, whether people lived, you know, a typical family dynamic or single parents or, I just, I remember being really blown away by that and really wanting to learn more about, like, how that shaped and molded these men who were these athletes and that.

[00:29:56] Allison: I think it's the story behind these huge plays of these huge wins that like tells a bigger story. I feel like in a way.

[00:30:18] Allison: Oh my gosh. I think just getting to the NFL, I think people don't realize there.

[00:30:48] So there's skill involved, but there's also a lot of luck, and I think people don't realize that part is like, if a coach doesn't like you, he doesn't have to pay, he doesn't have to play you at all, no matter how much you're getting played. I mean, he's probably gonna get in trouble, but like it, there's a lot more politics when it comes to the sport.

[00:31:27] Now we have NIL, which I'm sure alleviates some of that, but it is crazy. The road to the NFL is like. Twists and turns and a lot of roadblocks, and it's crazier than just, oh, I was really good in high school and I'm really good in college and now I'm going to the NFL and now I'm gonna play for seven years.

[00:31:51] Lindsay: When you talk about the luck, it's also like even with a coaching staff, like where a person's drafted, like you talk about the bears, right? Its could have been totally different. Set of connections and relationships for Isaac when he's drafted. Not to say it would've been better or worse, but it's like people don't realize that piece of it, how the combination of a coach or an offensive coordinator and a player can be the difference in that guy's career being good in that town.

[00:32:19] Allison: Absolutely insane. When my husband was on the Cleveland Browns, I specifically remember him being on the practice squad, but playing. Starting in a game ahead of guys who were on the active roster. And I was like, fuck this. I was like, This does not seem fair. Like the fact that he's not even on the active roster, he's playing in a game while in the practice squad, he's starting.

[00:32:46] Lindsay: Yeah, I think it's really eye-opening how just the connection of one certain coach, you know, whether it's a coach, reference coordinator, can really make a difference in a player's career. In that, with that team.

[00:33:23] Oh, so not great. And then he didn't play that season. For me, I was like, wait, you played four years. You're like, you're this great player. You're not on a minimum contract like you're getting paid to be here. Why didn't they just cut you? If they didn't like you, why didn't they just cut you? And then I feel like that kind of creates a story in other teams' minds.

[00:34:07] Yeah. But it is there. There are so many reasons that someone stays in the NFL, and A coach liking you or not liking you could be one of 'em.

[00:34:34] A narrative that sometimes can be controlled if you don't have the ability to sort of talk for yourself. I don't know. I know that sounds weird, but, you know, but I think about that in terms of, in broadcasting, even like, you know, it's, competitive like sports is, but like, you know, happy, competitive, but you, I don't know, there have been times that you're like, well wait a minute.

[00:35:17] Do you know what I'm saying? Because, and I'm saying that from experience of having people being like, let me do the dirty work.

[00:35:29] Allison: You know, absolutely. I know that my husband is. I was never the player who was throwing temper tantrums or holding out.

[00:35:56] And. I say temper tantrum because I'm like, I'm sure there are guys who very much deserve what they're asking for, but there are some guys that are just not gonna act like that. Hey, this is a job. I'm gonna go in and talk to the person who's in charge or responsible instead of relying on somebody else to convey that for me.

[00:36:20] Lindsay: Yeah, well, it's like squeaky wheel. No, I, yeah, I totally get that. Okay. Which is, this actually opens the door to something that I would love to know, 'cause I do think it's really interesting. So. What do you do work-wise?

[00:36:58] Allison: I consider my bosses two different people. People or groups, the companies I work for, and I create advertisements for, because I have to make them happy. I have to make sure that they like the product. I have to make sure I dedicate time to that. And then I also think my audience can kind of be like a boss in a way, which can be a very like kind of daunting mindset because I have to rely on views and likes.

[00:37:30] Lindsay: Is that really how you gauge it?

[00:37:49] It's fewer views and likes, which in a few years ago I would've said views and likes, and yeah, that never, I never was gonna be happy if I was doing that.

[00:38:03] Allison: Oh, I think. I think if it's, if I'm telling a story well enough. Yeah.

[00:38:27] It's like, wow, okay. I feel like I actually have people behind me who give a shit, and that feels, it feels good.

[00:38:41] Allison: Absolutely. And it's crazy 'cause I know the people who are always showing up, who are always commenting.

[00:39:01] Lindsay: So when it comes to the brands, so that's, I just find this so fascinating, and it's awesome.

[00:39:26] How do you manage your schedule?

[00:39:52] So I think that there's a learning curve along the way of like. Who do I wanna be as a wife, as a mother, working, how much time do I wanna spend working? I think there's, it's a very delicate balance that I'm still obviously very much working through.

[00:40:15] Yes. That's tricky. Not tricky, but I mean, like, I would think that's, it's unique, not unique, but it's like. I guess I should ask you, what is that like?

[00:40:43] I love the marketing team. I know what they're expecting. I know what to provide, and that kind of sets everybody up for success. But I also still love working with the companies that are like the one-offs that I'm like, Ooh, like, cool. Like I, I love doing this. And it's such a cool opportunity.

[00:41:24] And also like going on work trips, going to sporting events, like it's all involved.

[00:41:32] Allison: It's very fascinating. Yes. And when people on the street are like, Oh, what do you do for work? I say marketing because I'm like, I don't even know how to get into this.

[00:41:53] It's like, how do you know, let's hear about your journey. And I'm like, but it, yes. But it also looks completely different now. And I think it's just. I think it's such a great, awesome time to be sort of learning the craft of whether it's journalism or it's storytelling. But I also think 'cause you're, you know, the reality is it's sort of pairing, it's storytelling.

[00:42:26] Allison: A lot of people, anyway, think that I send out videos to get edited. I've never had somebody else edit a video for me in my entire social media journey.

[00:42:49] Lindsay: But so how are you?

[00:42:56] Allison: Oh my gosh, I love that piece of it. Yeah. I don't know. What about I love tech, I love it like,

[00:43:01] Allison: I like trying new things. That is something that I'm like, I do that out of interest.

[00:43:32] And how she and her team, which was like. A team of two, they were like, ready with our laptops open and stayed up all night, and we're just like, you've gotta make the most of this moment. Like what, how, what is the demand like, or, and I mean like, how demanding is the time for your work? Like, what do you have to do that is similar to that to make sure that you're on top of it?

[00:44:14] But I think it's also good that people see that like, I'm not doing well and. Like, cut through that like, oh, social media is perfect and everything is curated. And like, look at me like I am going out with my brand new newborn and like I just had a C-section. But like, I feel so good. No, it was me recording in the car, being like, I love my daughter, but I'm so unhappy.

[00:44:55] No. Did I wanna record going through postpartum depression? It's crazy 'cause I look back at my videos and you can tell a very clear time when I was like, there is nothing behind these eyes. And it, but now I'm so happy I did share it because I'm like proud of how much work I've put into myself to get where I'm at now.

[00:45:31] Like, my husband just lost his job. Do I wanna share this? No, I wish he hadn't lost his job. But like you go sharing it, because I think that this is going to like cut down the curtain. So what have you learned from all that? I think that. I never wanna be the curated, perfect influencer. I always wanna be just showing up raw and authentic.

[00:46:17] That is really interesting. It's very interesting because it's hard if I, like, I wouldn't put, I wouldn't tell somebody to put weight in a negative comment from a stranger, but I do sort of do that. But you have to do it in a healthy way so that it doesn't control your life. So, can you give an example?

[00:47:00] Now, could I be like other influencers who never share that stuff? Absolutely. But then I wouldn't be raw, real, and authentic, and I think I would rather have 50 followers actually caring about what I believe in and whatnot. Or even some that don't believe in it, but still like the content than a hundred people, and I'm just like serving them what I think they want,

[00:47:48] It's that thing that we all have When you're in a room, whether it's you're walking into a classroom in school, or you're at work or you're whatever, about to go on TV or about to do something that you're putting out to your, like millions of followers, it's that you're, what do they want from me?

[00:48:07] Allison: It's. I can, I see other people doing it, and I can acknowledge, like, okay, why they might be doing it. Because in a way, you can kind of protect your piece. But I also feel like at the same time, like I'll throw in snippets like yeah. And blink, and I don't have to make it my entire personality, but it's, I can see why people do it, but I love that I don't do that. I think, 'cause I don't wanna show up as somebody I'm not.

[00:48:50] So I, at this moment, maybe it's not even making sense anymore what I'm saying, but I really think there's value in that. Okay. So, what is then, Allison, what is something no one tells you? That you've experienced through your journey.

[00:49:17] You can have two at the, you can have your cake and eat it too. And I think it also makes me a better mom because I love working. I think I'm able to fill up my cup in some ways, and then come home, and I get to spill over and pour into my daughter's cup and my family's cup. But I can be a badass, career-driven woman, and I can also be a badass mom.

[00:49:44] Allison: Non-negotiables would be actually taking time for myself and knowing when to put work away and enjoy my family.

[00:50:00] Allison: Oh my gosh. When I'm on the road away from my family, it's, I'm working as much as possible when I'm at home.

[00:50:22] I feel like I, that makes me more present, and I'm like, oh, I get to like, make up for it in a way.

[00:50:41] Like, you're leaving in the morning, you're coming back at night, right?

[00:51:05] I never wanted my daughter to grow up with the back of my phone as her image of me, and it's very real with social media 'cause that's where I work. I work on my phone. So that was, I think, also accepting help helped me do that. Because I was like, I don't need help. Like I work from home, my husband works from home.

[00:51:41] Lindsay: Yeah, I totally get that. And I think that's right. It's. There's a balance to it. Okay. Three things no one knows about you.

[00:52:03] Lindsay: Really?

[00:52:06] Lindsay: Oh my God. I love that. That's awesome.

[00:52:20] Lindsay: Like, without doing exactly what you're trying.

[00:52:35] Okay. Fair. For example, my sister like canceled her wedding three years ago, and I didn't talk about it until she was ready to talk about it. So like things I can keep private that you might have an idea in your head, and it might be true, but I'm not gonna talk about it.

[00:52:53] Allison: Yes. Yes. And third, what is something that I'm actually a very messy person. I am not at my house. You told me that it is very messy. Your closet, is that what you just said? You're what? Oh my, my closet. I'm probably hiding in there somewhere. Yes, I'm a very messy person, but I think it makes me more of a creative person.

[00:53:28] Lindsay: I think I might've told you the last time we talked that I've actually, I have someone who has helped organize, come into, and unfortunately, we have organized the same space three times. Yeah. I'm working on it. Money. It's the worst.

[00:53:55] Allison: You are. I'm like, my bed is currently made in the background. You are sitting on a suitcase on top of a Dyson container, like a little bit of chaos.

[00:54:30] So, okay. I know you need to let you go, but is there anything that you have coming up that you just wanna share or that you're excited about that we haven't spoken about?

[00:54:48] Lindsay: You're gonna be in a Hallmark movie?

[00:55:01] Lindsay: Interior design?

[00:55:04] Lindsay: Oh, what? Oh, that's so exciting. Okay.

[00:55:11] Lindsay: Thank you so much for joining me. I hope to see you in person soon.

[00:55:15] Lindsay: Maybe at the Derby next year.

[00:55:18] Lindsay: Alright, thanks, Allison.

[00:55:30] That kind of work. But also, you know, she is five 11. I knew she was tall. I did not know she was that tall. I also think it's really cool that now, you know, she's been on this journey, the way that she's highlighted both her family stuff, but also her work stuff, I think is really cool. And recently, people were cheering for her as they saw her husband pass by in a marathon, being like, Oh, it's her husband.

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