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• Live recording on YouTube
• 420 Cannabis Culture
• Where Is Marijuana Legal? A Guide to Marijuana Legalization - US News
• Cannabis retail outlet
• Cannabis dispensaries in the United States
• Germany legalises cannabis, but makes it hard to buy - BBC
• Germany To Become The Third EU Country To Legalize Cannabis For Personal Use - Forbes
• Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)
• Cannabidiol (CBD)
• Meet the worst offenders on ‘shrinkflation’: dollar stores - Fortune
• Delta-8-THC
• Dad Grass gummies
• Dad Grass hemp CBD joints
• Mom Grass hemp CBD joints
• Dompen cannabis vapes
• Nordic Oil CBD lip balm
• Let's Hemp CBD / hampa snus (Martin's affiliate link)
• Hemp soap
• Endocannabinoid system (ECS)
• KokuaVida (Martin's ambassador link)
• KokuaVida Full Spectrum CBD Oil 3500 mg - Florida Orange (Martin's referral link)
• Pura Vida Botanicals hemp store
• Pura Vida Botanicals Costa Rican coffee and cacao
• HEMP & CBD: A Beginner's Guide book by Hanna Hell
• Citizens' Coalition (former Bourgeois Future) party in Sweden
• Johan Wicklén's book on the War on Drugs (in Swedish)

Episode 11 (35 minutes) was live recorded on April 20, 2024, by podcaster, Martin Lindeskog, with Boomcaster. Editing, post-production, and transcript with the podcast maker, Alitu.

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Hi, and welcome to hi five for hemp.

Hello, Adam, my co host.

Hello, Martin.

How are you?

Fine. Long time noosey.

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

It's been a while.

Yeah. So I thought we will do a short and sweet here.

It's a live stream and then it will turn into podcast episode number eleven and about.

Yeah, there's nothing short and sweet about anything I do.

I apologize.

No problem.

So.

But you have for this date, I want you to guide us into this tradition.

You could say I thought about it one year ago and had a solo episode and tried to find some

data and information about the expression 420.

Oh, you don't you know the history.

Of 420 a little bit, so if you could.

Yeah.

So that's why I thought we will do a live stream and then publish it and have a bit of

discussion about this significant day.

Oh, where 420 comes about.

Well, it's a bit of an open ended answer in

the sense that there are a few claims as to officially where 420 comes about.

When I was younger, 420 was the number that was all of the stock photography back in the

seventies and eighties.

It was not digital.

Right.

It was manual.

So you would go and actually get film or slides when you would create a catalog.

Remember catalogs? Paper catalogs with all the pictures.

And back in the seventies, the digital alarm clock was like the newest technology or radio

alarm clock.

Did you ever have one of those?

Yep.

Well, all of the stock for all of the companies, no matter what, they would always

be at 420.

And it was kind of like anytime you'd open a

catalog, you'd see a clock would be at 420.

Is it because it's like a nice number or what it's, yeah, it was.

Just a nice, friendly, even number, I guess.

Right.

So I'm not really sure what, what the, the

whole reasoning behind that is, but that's what I believe is where it came from.

But I found out that was actually argued that might not be the case.

There is also on the west coast.

So that, you know, I grew up in New York, I

live now in California, on the west coast.

I believe either was in Oregon or it was

outside of Washington, in Olympia.

It was an Olympia outside of Seattle.

It was like a college town right outside of Seattle.

There was a group of basically stoners and hippies in a high school that was very popular

there.

And they would, I forget the name of their

group, but they would meet at 420 every day to kind of light up and enjoy themselves.

And like 420 also is the police code for a cannabis arrest.

A 420 so there's a few different claims as to why 420 is 420, but it's been that way now.

It's been adopted for at least 20 years, maybe even longer, like 420 friendly or 420.

And now that.

Excuse me, I'm out of breath here because I

just finished my run.

Yeah, I ran 420 today, 4 miles, 4.20 miles,

about 7 km in the.

Yeah, seven, roughly 7.

Your lucky number.

Seven.

So I'm recovering from that, but, yeah, so that's kind of where it comes from.

Now, here in California, every state is different.

You know, the regulation and legalization of either for medical or recreational purposes of

cannabis products, and whether it be hemp or it be, you know, cannabis sativa or an indica,

one of those, it's up to the state, it's a state law, so it's, you know, state by state,

it's very different.

So just like countries are turning over in

other places, whether it be Europe, whether it be in Indonesia, whether it be in Central

America.

Right now, here in the United States, it's

state by state.

And California has had been in a lead position

for a long time, along with states like Colorado, there are some other, I think,

Alaska as well, maybe Hawaii, more in the french states that had, and Vermont perhaps,

that had made it available for medical purposes for quite some time.

And it wasn't until about, I think, ten years ago that rec.

Maybe a little less, maybe it's eight.

You know, I don't have the numbers exactly.

I didn't prepare for this show, and everything turned over now to rec.

And so it's for recreational purposes, meaning you don't need to have doctor's permission.

And products look more like regular products.

And in fact, it's a very high end product.

You know, it's like going into a wine shop, a wine bottle shop, not into the corner liquor

store, to get some cheap high or something like that.

These products are very expensive, very exclusive, and the experience of going into

these stores is like going into an Apple store or into a Gucci store.

They're very high end and they're very regulated.

You can see taxing as much as 50% when it's all added on.

Between the sales tax and the cannabis tax and the state tax and the federal tax, they can

advertise a price of $100, but you might be paying $150 just with $50 in ad on taxes.

So they have to do other things to get people in, because it's very, very expensive.

And over time, I think we'll see the prices go down a little.

Bit, but as we're seeing in the hemp economy.

But for now, it's a day where if you go to a

dispensary or to someplace that provides these products, there'll be a band, there'll be a

taco stand, there'll be specials, there'll be stickers and coasters and keychains.

And, you know, it's just basically a celebration of everything that is to do with

the cannabis culture.

And you can get all kinds of wonderful

products.

So how is 420 celebrated in your land?

I don't know, because as you know, I don't.

And I don't use Mariana in that way, but the plant, as we talk, the family like CBD oil and

the industrial hemp that I enjoy.

But I'm curious now because Sweden is in

European Union and recently that's why I want to also talk about that recently Germany had

this law putting in place that it's okay to do it for recreational purposes, as you said.

When I read this article, that was some months ago, I think in BBC it said that it's now

easier in one way, but it could be harder to get it.

And it will not pop up.

All these cafes that you have in like

Amsterdam and so on very quickly.

It will take some time, but still, I read the

article through there.

It says also that for you could have it to

grow plants.

I think it was free plants you could grow

also.

So you could really do it for your own use, so

to speak.

So it's interesting because Germany is a big,

together with France, where are the leading pact in European Union in a way.

And right now I think it's Malta.

And is it Liechtenstein or Luxembourg?

It's another country, third country that also have deregulated this.

So in Europe, deregulated.

What about the Netherlands?

Yeah, they have had it for a long time, but they have this special, I think, as

I said, in the coffeehouses.

So they have maybe some special.

But you know that there have been labor for a long, long time.

But in Sweden it's not open in that way.

And here, that's why I in a way started the

show and then you joined and happy to see that perspective because here we have this and that

could be for another show and episode about this THC thing.

What about the THC thing that in Sweden had become complicated because they.

It's classified as.

How do you say that you could get high of it

even if it's like this small amount and they want to classify it as medical or drug

control.

Substance is what you're saying like a drug.

Yeah.

So, which probably is true, such as with caffeine or wine or with ibuprofen.

Chemicals are around us.

And THC is a psychoactive component of all of

the wide spectrum of components that cannabis provides.

I think the one that's really getting a lot of attention right now is CBD, cannabid oil.

And that is a good thing for some people.

It has great effect.

I mean, you have hemp derived CBD available in Sweden, is that correct?

Yeah, and for us.

So for example, when CBD first came out and

was available here, just generally you could buy some creams or lotions.

Like, here's one.

This is a rapid recovery cooling cream with

CBD in it.

So this has menthol and it's kind of like a

shaving cream, but you can rub it on like a pulled muscle and it's really chilly.

But it has the CBD in there because there's a, there's a belief and it also, this is Thc

free, so that's what it says.

Yeah.

This one is a roll on that I have CBD plus.

So you can like roll it onto your skin almost like a deodorant.

Yeah.

Right.

But it's not a deodorizer.

It's just a way extra strength formula, full hemp extract.

And these are all extracted from hemp.

Right.

So you can just apply it to a wound or.

But it has a, you'll see here, it's a

rollerball.

And now is for relaxation business.

Later on, Adam is showing a Dio roll here.

Oh, if you're listening.

Right.

Yeah.

So you got to watch the video.

Right.

And I show.

That was the previous.

Yeah, continue.

Oh, yeah.

But these products, when they, in their day,

when they came out, there'd be like 2030, even up to $50 for a bottle.

Just like very expensive face cream can go into the hundreds of dollars.

But over time, right, as these products flooded the market and there wasn't a great

demand for people to pay, the prices came down.

So you can, so you can notice here, like in a product like this, you know, it's, the detail

is really nice.

It's got the rollerball, it's a very

sophisticated model.

And then over time, then came, price came down

to more like $8.

And what I'm holding up is just hemp balm,

which has cbd in it. 125 milligrams of cbD.

So it's just like moisturizer cream, but it

looks basically like in a toothpaste tube.

And by reducing the marketing.

And you see here it's one color, right? There's not really fancy advertising or it's

just plain, almost generic in a sense, but it's the same, it's the same effect, right?

It's a good cream.

If you have itchy skin or reactive skin, you

put this on and the CBD will help neutralize and minimize some of the nervous reaction or

that's what there is a belief for.

But the price came down.

And then right now we're having this genocide going on in the United States on dollar stores

because of inflation.

So everywhere across the United States and

even in other places in the world, they have these discount chains where they sell very low

cost, mostly chinese or plastic, some indian and indonesian products, but very low end

products, very small amounts.

And they call these dollar stores because

everything cost a dollar.

Nothing costs a dollar anymore.

And in fact, our 99 cent store, which was one penny lower than the dollar, just went out of

business because they couldn't compete with a name like 99 Cent store.

They had to raise the price to $5.

And now I know in dollar general, the ceiling

price is now like $7 on some products, right? So the 99 cent store is going out of business

because it can't compete because of inflation.

Just the model doesn't work.

No, it's the $2 store or whatever.

But just to get back to it.

So my wife went in because our local $0.99 store is closing and they're liquidating their

inventory.

It's a lot of like, wow, you can buy something

for $0.75 instead cents.

But once it's gone, it's gone.

She walks in and finds this level three CBD cooling sports cream.

It's like mentholated and minty.

So you put it on a sore knee or an ankle if

you're a runner or an arm if you're lifting, it's like, you know, I'm sure you have these

icy hot creams.

Yeah, balm.

That's what this is, $0.99.

Wow.

And on sale it was like 70, like $0.75.

It just goes to show you, we can go from one

product with, this is an older product from like ten years ago with the rollerball, $30,

same product, $0.99.

Right?

So it's a weird economy right now.

And because it's been deregulated, right,

there's less of a demand because it's available everywhere.

And so they had to lower the price.

And I think we're going to see the same thing

with products that contain THC as well, because you may not know this, but because

you're in Sweden, you don't have exposure to this.

But they started finding ways to extract THC components out of hemp because hemp does have

a small amount of THC, and hemp grows much easier because it's like a weed.

It can grow anywhere.

So they just grow more product and they can

extract this new hemp component that's called Delta eight.

So the traditional marijuana component is delta nine THC.

They can extract its cousin or its sister, Delta eight THC, which is a lighter version of

THC.

It's a more euphoric, lightweight, high, less

anxiety.

People are really enjoying it.

It's very much similar in the same, but it wears off more quicker.

It doesn't phase you out.

Now we have hemp derived THc.

That's completely legal because it is not t delta nine.

It's a different component.

So we have products that are coming out like

these gummies with a company called Dadgrass here.

You like this? And this is.

This is their marketing is like the weed your dad used to smoke that didn't knock you on

your ass.

Dadgrass, right.

And these are gummies, and these are wonderful.

And only two milligrams of delta at THC in here.

So it just gives you just a little sparkle, but not like you can function.

And they take off the edge.

And the anxiety, as you've talked about the

different components of CBD, there's also CBDN and CBG and all of these other components,

they created Dadgrass as more of a cigarette.

I don't really smoke as a runner, but I have

these.

They come in a pack just like this.

I tried once before.

Again, there's no psychoactive properties in

here, just a little bit of THC, delta eight THC, which is very light.

So you feel a little something.

You know, it's.

You feel more when you eat a hot pepper.

And I know you like food.

Like more of a psychoactive response.

Right?

Like, it's not really that much.

You feel a little something.

Or like cloves.

Like when you get cloves, like you feel a

little.

Or strong tea.

Right.

And then, of course, because there's dead

grass, there's also a mom grass now, you see, and the yellow.

So there's dadgrass and mom grass.

And mom grass is a little bit different.

Right? So it has CBG in it, which is known to help

heal the body and soothe the soul.

So to like.

So a mom who's having more anxiety.

Right.

Would use this.

It's very smooth, much smoother.

This is a little more like, the flavor of it is a little stronger, like if you smoke it,

right.

These are smoking products.

I don't really smoke.

These are pretty much, I bought these just,

you know, to have as like, hey, try this out, right?

It's cool, right? It's all kind of cool.

But I would say if I was going to be taking CBD in a smoke form, I would do it this way,

which is.

I have this company called Dom makes these

really high tech, wonderful pens.

They're like vape pens, very small and it has

a measured dose.

So every, like, when you smoke it, you're not

sure.

And also the, the burnt, the burnt leaf and

all of that carbon in your lungs.

This is just a vape, very tiny.

It's the size of a pen.

And there are no psychoactive properties here.

It's derived from hemp, right.

It has 18 to 118 cBd to one THC.

And it has a chamomile oil in it too.

So it's calming, right.

And it's just like a little vape pen and you just take a little hit off of this and you can

get your cbD.

But this is tested, compliant, regulated.

This is why I like the idea of governments getting involved, because, you know, and it's

measured.

No surprises.

There are a lot of weird components.

When you get something that's homegrown.

Well, it's.

Yeah, it's fresher, but there's also fungus

that can grow and other additives and chemicals to make it strong, who knows what

you're getting? Whereas when it's regulated, yes, you're going

to have to pay a tax and some excise, but you're more guaranteed a controlled experience

and not having a surprise where you can't function.

Right.

That you can't.

Because for many people, these are very therapeutic means.

I mean, for me, I don't have to take anti anxiety medications or anything else.

You know, I just use these products every once in a while and I don't drink very much.

You know, I'll have maybe a beer a week just to enjoy it and taste it, but I'm not grabbing

for alcohol as a tool.

Like, oh, I need a drink.

And again, I am very lightweight.

I'll have one.

Gummy.

Or maybe not.

I probably am more addicted to caffeine and maybe other supplements like ashwagandha or

magnesium.

You know, like other things that I take for

longevity.

Right.

You know, for fitness rather than these things, capsaicin, which is, you know,

basically hot.

So what do you think about all this?

What do you think about the products that you're using?

I've talked way too much.

Yeah, it's all good.

Previous episode, I talked about this like a

lip balm.

Do you find that works better than normal lip balm?

Yeah, it's, of course, in other ingredients also.

But it is something with the hemp that is smoother, refreshing, and also good for.

So you don't get dry lips or something that you have some blemish or something like that.

It's getting away.

It's getting rid of it.

Interesting.

Yeah, I really like it.

So that's one product.

And then, of course, I've tested snuff that you have.

You could have.

It's called, like, snooze in Swedish.

And, like, does that have a little tobacco? Yeah, but it's.

It's not this.

It's no tobacco at all.

It's only, like, hemp, industrial hemp.

But you put it under your.

Under your lip or.

Or in your mouth.

So I know some people who snort snuff through their.

Yeah, that's this.

Yeah, that's the old way of doing it.

They did it back in the day.

So painful.

But it's more that you get this reaction and you get starting to sneeze and so

on.

But, yeah, so, but, so you put.

A pinch between your lip and gum, and you just.

Yeah, then you spit.

Do you spit?

No, this is in, you know, also in around the paper.

So you get this nice.

Yeah, it is some soothing and also some

balancing.

And that we will also talk for.

We have talked about it in other episodes.

But what is this Endo Carnambiri system is

doing? And when you use this hemp oil or product,

what that could do for your body.

So it's interesting how you could take it in

different ways.

So I've had capsules also that I like.

And also, then now I'm starting.

So that's why I want to have on the show also

that I've known for a long time that started the hemp company, but I have other products

also, and I recently got some samples from them, so I wanted to test that and see how

that's working.

But, yeah, I've tested some different ones.

And then here for a fun.

And this now showing for the.

So this, I don't know if you will see that.

Yeah, it's like a soap.

So I'm showing a soap, and it's the symbol with the plant.

Right. Interesting. Yeah. So you said that in Germany.

Now people can grow their own plants.

Up to three plants.

Yeah, yeah.

I think here we can grow up to six.

And I'm not sure if that's changed, if it's

more.

But I have grown plants before and I can tell

you that.

Be prepared if you grow them, because, man,

they stink.

They really stink.

In fact, look at, this is, you see this here?

Yes.

If you're watching the video.

See that there?

Yeah, that is.

I grew that.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's my flower.

Or like a flower.

Yeah, like a bud.

So this is what you would crumble up.

And now this is.

Oh, man, it still.

It still smells good.

I keep it in an airtight jar.

This was several years ago that it did this.

And I can't.

I wouldn't smoke these because they're so

lovely.

Right?

These little teeny.

They look like.

I'm so proud of these.

I've got, you know, and I did try it, but,

like, again, I'm an athlete, so I don't like to have smoke in my lungs because I need to

breathe.

So for me, it's more like the gummies and the

tinctures and like the little, you know, bottles and stuff like that.

Yeah.

This product here is from Pura Vida Botanicals.

It's a cinnamon CBD oil.

This is really good.

This is from a company in Vermont, Rovita.

Yeah.

My good friend JT has this company.

He also owns a coffee farm in Costa Rica and

he is producing CBD coffee, which is amazing.

And his coffee is organically grown.

It's on his land.

And he also produces this beautiful, this

cinnamon, because the cinnamon also has an effect as well.

This is really good stuff.

And this is what I'll take also, just a little

drop of this.

Right.

So. And it's just CBD.

It's all derived from hemp.

There might be a trace amount of THC, but, you know, so small, it doesn't really have any

psychoactive property.

But that's all good.

I don't know, though, you know, with CBD, it's hard to tell.

It's hard to tell when you take it because it's not.

It doesn't have a general effect right away.

Yeah.

It doesn't do anything.

Or is it just a placebo?

I don't know.

Science is out.

I know they say yes, and it activates the endocannabinol system, perhaps.

I have no way of knowing when that's turning on or turning off because I've been using

these products for, you know, 45 years.

Yeah.

Who knows?

You get used to it.

So that could be, as I said, that I have been

in contact with an author that wrote a book originally in Swedish called CBD and Hampine

Swedish or hemp in English.

What's that?

And she has translated that into English, and it's like an introduction to CBD and hemp.

And I got met her at Health fair here in Gothenburg.

So it'd be nice to get her on the show and talk about these things and what she has

learned and what she has started and how she has compiled it.

So. Yeah, and we could have a discussion there also with products and other things and that

you show there.

So I think that's interesting and we will

follow the news.

I know how good you are at finding interesting

articles.

Like, we have talked about, like hemp in

fashion, hemp in building materials, and also we talked about the pricing and all the range

of products and all this good stuff.

So see what we could do in the near future

here, Adam.

So, yeah, now they have a new thing.

It's called generative hemp.

Okay. And what's that?

It's. It's a joke.

Yeah.

Like generative.

A generative hemp.

Yeah.

It's just the AI version of.

Yeah.

Artificial.

It's artificial hemp.

I don't know, I just trying to make it into a joke.

Everything is Genii these days.

And that what you said about, I mean, regulation, I'm for this, as I say, a free

market.

But I understand where you're coming from, and

I wonder what could happen then now in Germany and how that will be in other countries around

in Europe and how that will reflect free market economy.

Is a nice idea.

Yeah, it is, but it's an idea.

The reality is that in places where cannabis products are available, including hemp

products, without regulation, as in it's criminal decriminalization, the right way to

put it.

There's very high regulation.

And the reason why they're decriminalizing it is one.

They're not seeing it as a threat.

There's much bigger threats.

In fact, I would say that Internet addiction, social media addiction, is way more dangerous.

In fact, something like being addicted to cannabis will just chill you out, so you won't

grab for just the terrible effect of social media.

And that dopamine is a far more dangerous drug than THC.

It chills you out.

So you're not so addicted to that next hit of

enzyme in your brain to tickle your thalamus or tickle your.

What's the little pineal gland?

Yeah.

That's driving all the dopamine cases.

Yeah, the little hits.

Yeah.

So. But the reality is that they see this as a

huge money play.

There's so much money involved because it's

something that is not available.

So people want to try it, they want to get

their hands on it and governments can wrap their arms around it, one for the safety of

the citizens, which makes a lot of sense.

But huge money.

Yeah, huge money.

Our town, it's one of the few towns in San

Diego county that welcomed, and we have, I think, six or seven dispensaries in our little

town in San Diego county.

It's not the San Diego city proper, it's the

outside region.

And also in the city of San Diego, they've

welcomed it.

And we have a lot nicer roads than all of the

surrounding towns because there's so much more money in the system.

And understand that California is a highly regulated state.

Right.

We pay a lot of taxes.

Taxes.

Everything is taxes.

You know, so.

And, but what you get for all those taxes are

beautiful parks, beautiful roads, beautiful systems, really good hospitals, really good

services.

You might have to wait.

Right.

But you live in Sweden, so you know about

that.

You pay very high taxes for everything, but

you have really good services, you get healthcare.

So and so, yeah, depending how you look at it.

But it's interesting, you said about this criminal aspect of that and that I think that

nobody dare to talk about in politics except one party called, like, how to say, an ally

alliance.

That's a non socialist alliance.

And like, bourgous.

Well, how do you say that in French?

The middle class bourgeois.

Yeah.

So if you take that in Swedish, you get that name.

Because here in Sweden, lots of criminal gangs are controlling regarding the Mariana and

other things like that.

So if it will be opened and you could get it

like at the pharmacy, whatnot, then it could be positive things about this.

But you have to talk about that in order, because here it's getting problematic to say

it, at least.

Well, that's why you need the regulation, because when the government takes

control and turns it into a retail engine, it's a whole different equation.

And really, to be honest, the real business that gangs should be in is banks.

They should just take, because that's what they want is the money.

They should just have a gang credit card and then they already are.

In a way.

I could tell you that from firsthand

experience.

If you know what my last name is, you look at

my history and the history of the Tinkov name, so.

But the real gang are the banks.

And so.

But that's a whole different conversation.

Yes, it is.

You have another podcast to talk about that.

Yeah.

And. Yeah, and I'm very neutral when it comes down to it, you know.

But, you know, I just.

I just know this stuff because I've been

exposed to it over the many years, and I'm a big supporter of it.

That's all.

So. Yeah, so that's cool.

So what.

What else are.

What are you looking at with this show and the development of the show?

Yeah, it's great to see you, Adams.

We'll see how we could fit our schedules and

see on how regular it could be and what topic.

But I liked what we have done so far and what

it could be.

And it was interesting that you showed all the

products that you've used, and I have some one.

This is in Swedish, but he could probably talk in English also, so we never gave up.

And it's the so called war on drugs.

And his name is Johan Viklian.

And that had been.

He'd been, of course, asked for to talk about

when things happening now in Europe, like in Germany and so on, because here, as I said, in

Sweden, have been very complicated situation to dare to talk about Mariana and about

legalization and if we should be more.

Yeah.

Similar to other countries in Europe and so on.

Here, there's a correlation between the funding and attention on the war on drugs and

the rise in criminal activity.

There is more violence and just detriment and

evil things that happen.

The more we fight, the more there is.

So the less we make it an evil, the less problem there is.

And it really does just kind of dissolve into society as something that's really not that

impactful.

As I said, social media is far more damaging

for most people and their children.

Right.

I would be more concerned with the amount of time you're spending in front of a screen

looking into black rectangles.

Shiny black rectals, or watching us live.

Or dead if they have wi fi in the afterlife.

In the Bardo, it could be.

I would say, if you ask me, my advice would be

to get outside and unplug a little while to balance with everything, everything else

that's happening in various places of the world.

We all share one big sky.

It's, you know, a big ball that we're on.

And even if we're in a flat earth, it's a big dome we're under.

It's all one dome, whatever you want to call it.

It's all connected in some way or another.

And all of this stuff comes from the outside,

from the ground from the soil.

And I'm more concerned with protecting our

soil than with protecting our regulation.

Yeah.

And that's without our soil, the world is nothing.

Yeah. And that could be like an endnote.

I learned that from when I listened to a webinar, that I learned from Hannah Hel, and

that's her name, Hel in Swedish.

So we thought about CBD and hemp.

What's that? A book.

And there they talked about the history in Sweden that back in the day, you had

industrial hemp plants in the farming and in landscape, and it did lots of good things for

the soil.

Yes, exactly right.

And so in the history of the US, when they

built the big mega highways to connect both sides, and this was in the twenties and the

thirties, maybe the forties, they started, you know, this is before World War Two.

But then after, as we were trying to get out of the depression, the government put a lot of

investment into the infrastructure.

And to keep the ditches down on both sides of

the road, they would just put industrial hemp down there and it would keep the roads, the

ditches down.

And what's amazing, they also, when doing

that, they realized that hemp crops work really well to regenerate a field.

So if you grow soy and corn and feed and over and over again, eventually you will just

deplete the soil of nutrients.

So if you throw in a cycle of hemp and you can

use hemp, it's a super strong fiber, you can create really strong fabrics out of it and

other materials.

As we talked before, you just chop the crop

and then you chill it into the soil.

It regenerates the soil.

So regenerative farming is this idea of leaving the cut, whatever you cut out of the

land, rather than scooping it up, and it protects the soil.

Without the soil, this civilization will die.

Right.

The soil is probably the most important thing that we need to keep the food going.

The food, we die.

It's really important.

And crops like hemp are key to keep our soil alive.

We come from the earth and we depart, and we're sprinkled on the earth.

Right.

So we need to protect our soil.

But that's a whole other conversation.

Yes, it is.

So thanks again, Adam, and nice to see you

again.

And thanks for doing this live streaming.

And then it will end up as an episode, episode number eleven of hi fi for hemp.

Eleven, yeah.

So you're doing one episode a year?

Eleven years like that.

Yeah.

I'll see you next April.

Thanks for that.

Take care, bye.