In this episode of Moving Out of Trauma, I get to talk with Keely Meta (she/her) about the subconscious mind and how we can use it to our advantage in the healing process and how it can help be a guiding resource we can tap into at any time for free! We also explore the concept of life purpose, the impact of generational programming, and practical techniques to tap into our untapped potential. Discover how accessing altered states of consciousness, embracing mindfulness, and utilizing the body's natural ability to release trauma can transform your life. Tune in to find your path to healing through the subconscious mind.
Keely Meta is a sacred ceremony facilitator, Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist, mind body wellness teacher, yoga instructor, meditation teacher, and mentor based out of Phoenix, Arizona. Keely is a passionate individual who believes in the power of the subconscious mind. Through her own scientific method of self-exploration, she has discovered hidden strengths and gained confidence in areas where she once doubted herself. This genuine work has become her life's passion, as she believes that everyone deserves access to the tool that is their own subconscious mind. As a provider, Keely strives to help her clients and those she encounters unlock different parts of themselves and integrate these newfound aspects into their lives. She sees the subconscious mind as a magnificent tool available to all humans, and it energizes her every single day to assist others in accessing this incredible resource. Keely offers her clients the guidance and environment to explore the subconscious mind safely and develop the tools that are unique to their own growth journey.
[02:16] - Intro
[03:45] - Getting to Know the Provider
[14:57] - Topic of the Week: Healing Through the Subconscious Mind
[51:19] - Providers Aren't Robots
[56:39] - Trauma Tip of the Week
[01:00:58] - Final Fast Five
[01:09:24] - Container and Calm State Change Exercises
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Welcome to Moving out of Trauma. A podcast made
Speaker:to support Trauma survivors with actionable steps and
Speaker:resources so they can start moving out of trauma and end
Speaker:the life that they're craving. I'm the host Candice Leader
Speaker:Gerber, EMDR therapist, yoga teacher, first
Speaker:time mom, and dog enthusiast. I am
Speaker:here in Phoenix Arizona, and I am so excited about
Speaker:today's episode. Before we dive into today's
Speaker:episode of moving out of trauma, I wanna give you a few
Speaker:reminders. The first is that if you
Speaker:wanna start practicing more mindfulness and incorporate more grounding
Speaker:skills in your daily life, but you've had some trouble getting
Speaker:started because of past trauma. I wanna offer
Speaker:you a free trauma informed beginners guide to
Speaker:mindfulness workbook and create this workbook
Speaker:with trauma in mind. You can get
Speaker:this free workbook as well as monthly updates about new
Speaker:content by heading over to sole mission dashemvrtherapy.com
Speaker:slash podcast. You can sign up for our newsletter there, and you
Speaker:will get this free workbook directly to your inbox. that you can
Speaker:download as many times as you like and get updates when I update it as
Speaker:well. Again, that link is full mission
Speaker:dash EMDR therapy. dotcom/podcast.
Speaker:And the second reminder I wanna give is at the end of this
Speaker:for cording, and the end of every episode for that matter, we will
Speaker:be giving you 2 resources that we often use
Speaker:in EMDR therapy. which are the container
Speaker:exercise as well as the state change place.
Speaker:So these exercises are visualization exercises
Speaker:that can help you transition from
Speaker:maybe a state of thinking about past trauma, awareness,
Speaker:learning something new into a more calm,
Speaker:more centered way of being so you can go on throughout
Speaker:your day. I hope these resources help, and I would
Speaker:love to know your thoughts. Alright. Let's dive into today's
Speaker:episode. Alright. So today,
Speaker:I'm moving out of trauma. We have Kili Mehta, who is
Speaker:a sacred ceremony facilitator. a
Speaker:certified clinical hypnotherapist, a mind
Speaker:body wellness teacher, a yoga instructor, a meditation teacher,
Speaker:and mentor based out of Phoenix, Arizona.
Speaker:Kiely offers her clients the guidance and environment
Speaker:to explore the subconscious mind safely while developing the
Speaker:tools that are unique to their own growth journey.
Speaker:You can find keely@keelymeta.com instagramat
Speaker:Kilimeta XO, and hosting the
Speaker:MetaPerch podcast on all podcasting platforms.
Speaker:And I am so excited to be able to talk to Kili today.
Speaker:Kili is a friend that I've had
Speaker:the Great pleasure of getting to know over the past couple of
Speaker:months through our yoga studio, and I'm just so
Speaker:excited to dive into this conversation with her.
Speaker:Yeah. Hello. Hi. I'm a super excited
Speaker:speaker. Thank you, Candice. Yes. You're so welcome. I'm
Speaker:so happy that you're able to come on and and talk about
Speaker:some self acceptance pieces and just all the all the different
Speaker:things that make you passionate as a
Speaker:provider as a helper because you have such a a
Speaker:beautiful, wonderful soul. So I'm so excited to share that with others. Well,
Speaker:thank you. You're welcome. Thank
Speaker:you. Alright. So for this first portion
Speaker:of the show. It's, you know, getting to know you as a
Speaker:provider. And I will say this in every
Speaker:episode until I out who said it, but there
Speaker:is a quote that I heard well, actually, that I read that
Speaker:said knowing a person is like music. What attracts
Speaker:us to them is their melody, and as we get to know them, we learn
Speaker:their lyrics. And I just really love
Speaker:that because I think that it kinda highlights the complexities
Speaker:of who we are as people and who's who we are as
Speaker:providers, and I I think that kinda just I don't know.
Speaker:There's some beautiful symmetry there. So based off that wonderful
Speaker:quote, I have a couple of questions for you to
Speaker:start. if that sounds like a good place to jump off. Let's play.
Speaker:Cool. So to start, why are you
Speaker:so passionate about this work? I
Speaker:see. All of us have
Speaker:our conscious minds that we
Speaker:think that we operate kind of every function of
Speaker:facet of our lives with, but, really, we have
Speaker:90% of what operates
Speaker:us under this surface. And
Speaker:my passion comes from I would say
Speaker:a scientific method of my own experiences.
Speaker:Yeah. unraveling
Speaker:and unveiling pieces of myself,
Speaker:strengths in myself, confidence when I never felt like I could
Speaker:have had confidence in particular areas shows me that this
Speaker:work is sincere. It is real.
Speaker:And I just can't imagine
Speaker:living life without it. So as a provider,
Speaker:I couldn't imagine my clients or people that I see not
Speaker:having access to the tool that is their subconscious mind. So
Speaker:That's what literally gets me up every single day is to
Speaker:help someone access a different part of them, integrate a different part of
Speaker:them. It just is so
Speaker:it is such a magnificent tool that is not unique to me or it's
Speaker:not unique to you. It's something that us as humans have the
Speaker:ability to do. And I just I
Speaker:it just makes me so excited.
Speaker:Yeah. I what you just said there of, like, us as humans,
Speaker:like, everyone has this ability to, like, tap into
Speaker:it. And it just made me think of, like, how how much
Speaker:of our I'm sure we'll get to this, but how much of our brain
Speaker:and our our own wisdom and and just ourselves that
Speaker:we don't regularly tap into.
Speaker:For a lot of reasons, I'm sure. But, you know, for me, at least the
Speaker:first thing that comes up is, like, the busyness of our culture in our
Speaker:lives and, like, taking dedicated time and, like,
Speaker:very purposeful time to, like, connect
Speaker:to ourselves on that deeper level.
Speaker:Yeah. The race
Speaker:of how we kind of fix this every day. I mean, it's gonna sound like
Speaker:a cliche, and I'm gonna reverberate everything that we see on all of these.
Speaker:Like, cliche Instagram posts, but we
Speaker:are kind of the way that we operate in the current society
Speaker:is counterintuitive to our healing
Speaker:processes of our body. So it's literally, like,
Speaker:what our body requires is rest relaxation. It requires the
Speaker:activation of a parasympathetic nervous system. And
Speaker:being inundated constantly and being a consumer constantly and
Speaker:being happen to go into the next, you know
Speaker:okay. Well, you have a certain amount of grieving period --
Speaker:Yeah. -- or you have a certain amount of time that you can take care
Speaker:of it and then on to the next thing. Right? Like -- Mhmm. -- that's
Speaker:counterproductive to integrating, which is a huge part of,
Speaker:I'm sure, you talk about on your podcast with PTSD is a huge
Speaker:part of accepting ourselves. It's a huge part of
Speaker:making decisions. And, also, like, the exam comes back to
Speaker:like, how are we supposed to heal? Well,
Speaker:the society doesn't really help for that. And if it does -- No. -- it's
Speaker:like, it's like a commodity or it's it's an interesting thing. You know? So
Speaker:it's it's sexy no matter what. You know? Mhmm.
Speaker:Mhmm. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker:How does your personality show up in the room with the people that you work
Speaker:with? I would say this
Speaker:is probably my this is my favorite
Speaker:part. My personality comes through in
Speaker:in everything that I do. And I don't think there isn't a
Speaker:particular place or space that it doesn't because
Speaker:if I'm to teach people to walk Mhmm. In there,
Speaker:I will unique this. There is no way that I'm
Speaker:going to show up less than that. So I joke,
Speaker:I play, I make fun of myself. I'm
Speaker:honest about where I'm at with certain things
Speaker:without divulging a little too much information.
Speaker:I share the pieces of myself that I think will
Speaker:allow for a little bit of self acceptance in my client's lines. Right?
Speaker:Like, maybe they're struggling with something, and I can share, like,
Speaker:hey. There's been a journey. That's been a one one of my major less
Speaker:So that's been some you know, we just went through them. This is a tool
Speaker:that helped me move through it. Like,
Speaker:I personally have a very hard time with the
Speaker:kind of guru mentality.
Speaker:of the world right now, especially in the mind body
Speaker:wellness field that separates
Speaker:a practitioner. I mean, to a certain extent, of course. We have to
Speaker:separate things to a certain extent, but
Speaker:separates the humanity of a practitioner with their
Speaker:clients. Mhmm. Kinda like puts them into a box, like, a
Speaker:way, like okay. Yeah. I'm all 4. I'm all Yeah.
Speaker:Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I talk about boxes
Speaker:surprisingly a lot so far on this show. I
Speaker:always knew that it was a passion of mine, but it has come out a
Speaker:lot as to you know, I don't I don't
Speaker:enjoy us putting anyone into boxes.
Speaker:But, you know, at least in my own trading, like, as a therapist,
Speaker:it was like, you know, is the way you sit. This is the way you
Speaker:speak. This is what you do. So maybe not necessarily like a
Speaker:pedestal, but just very, like, this is your therapist box. like,
Speaker:this is what you are as a therapist and to break out of
Speaker:that and kind of figure, like, how how do I become myself
Speaker:right while you know, sitting with this client who's being extremely
Speaker:vulnerable with me and still have some of
Speaker:that like you shared that those pieces of self
Speaker:disclosure or whatever the case looks like to have
Speaker:have that space too. Yeah. I think it's okay
Speaker:for us to be able to relate on a
Speaker:human level because that allows them
Speaker:too, you know, that they are also multifaceted. And they can be themselves
Speaker:while also being professional. They can be themselves while also
Speaker:setting boundaries with mother-in-law, you know -- Yes. -- those types of things.
Speaker:Absolutely. Yes. What is
Speaker:the top thing you wish everyone knew
Speaker:about the world of work that you do. If you wanna approach this as a
Speaker:hypnotherapist or mind body wellness or, I don't know, any of
Speaker:the any and all of the things.
Speaker:The major thing that I think we all have to
Speaker:understand is well, maybe it's a a
Speaker:couple proud thing here. But first, we're
Speaker:not islands. We are humans that need to be involved
Speaker:in the lives of other humans. Again,
Speaker:society in this society in the west, specifically
Speaker:is very centered around the individual, which there's nothing wrong
Speaker:with. Like, be at boss Bosco. you know,
Speaker:be that person. -- curse. That's okay. Okay. Be a message.
Speaker:Be, you know, be strong and and take action on
Speaker:your passions. However, we heal through
Speaker:community. So a lot of us don't come from communities
Speaker:or families or practices or backgrounds or whatever,
Speaker:where the others or we are encouraged
Speaker:to healed with one another, be seen by one another.
Speaker:And we can do all of the work in the world and not
Speaker:have perspective enough
Speaker:to actually implement what it is that
Speaker:we're doing. And sometimes just
Speaker:being seen or seeing someone else and accepting them
Speaker:can be such a monumental part of your healing journey.
Speaker:And so while you're doing all of this therapy and all
Speaker:of this work, if you don't have a community that you feel safe and up
Speaker:with, your body to the core like, next
Speaker:to your home and shelter isn't gonna feel satisfied.
Speaker:Mhmm. Yeah. Absolutely. This actually is a
Speaker:theme that came up in one of the previous episodes
Speaker:about writing circles for trauma survivors and
Speaker:just the the very act of
Speaker:being able to verbally share you know, I mean, I
Speaker:know this in in individual therapy, but this is on a
Speaker:larger scale, but to share your story
Speaker:and to feel seen and feel heard and feel acknowledged in
Speaker:a way that you know, typically by and large when trauma survivors
Speaker:share their story, they're ashamed in a lot of ways
Speaker:by our society. And so when we're able to be at a
Speaker:community that feels safe when we're able to have our story be
Speaker:heard and be seen and feel good about it and
Speaker:feel safe. It's monumental for the healing
Speaker:process. Yeah. I completely agree.
Speaker:Yeah. Okay.
Speaker:Yeah. So as we are opening up this wonderful
Speaker:conversation and kind of diving into this.
Speaker:And what I'm curious what you feel drawn to in this next piece
Speaker:and, like, where you wanna I mean, because we kinda hit on the community piece
Speaker:and, you know, we're talking about healing. And and so I'm
Speaker:wondering where where you feel like we we wanna go next
Speaker:with this conversation? I wanna talk about the subconscious
Speaker:mind. Let's do it. I I find
Speaker:so much benefit. Obviously, we we we we scratched the
Speaker:surface, which is a beautiful metaphor for the
Speaker:subconscious mind. and how accessible
Speaker:it is because it is. It truly is. Mhmm. All this have 10%
Speaker:of our our logical thinking
Speaker:robotic actions,
Speaker:whatever, existing kind of,
Speaker:like, on the surface of who we are. And then
Speaker:what happens is what's really running the show, the little,
Speaker:like, minions inside, are all of your actual belief
Speaker:systems. All of, you know, even,
Speaker:like, cultural, racial,
Speaker:geographical, Whatever.
Speaker:Location based influences
Speaker:yeah. Trauma based influences even. that are actually
Speaker:running how we see ourselves, how we believe in ourselves.
Speaker:all of the functioning that's way, way deeper down when you
Speaker:start uncovering these pieces of yourself, you start to realize, oh,
Speaker:wait. Maybe I don't feel lovable. Maybe maybe I self
Speaker:sabotage because I I don't wanna see success. Maybe I grew up in
Speaker:poverty And even though I have
Speaker:plenty of abundance financially, I still feel worried that it's all gonna go
Speaker:away. All those pieces of ourselves are
Speaker:the 90% -- Mhmm. -- how we respond and
Speaker:how we react and and what's really driving our decisions,
Speaker:which is part of the reason why logical thinking is kind of
Speaker:silly because there's just so much more driving -- Mhmm.
Speaker:-- the machine. You know? Yeah. It
Speaker:reminds me of that iceberg metaphor of, like, so much
Speaker:of what is there is beneath the surface that
Speaker:you can't see. But that doesn't stop from being there.
Speaker:Right? It still exists. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:Definitely. You know,
Speaker:as I personally as I started doing a lot of
Speaker:I was like, I think I was isolated when I was younger, maybe, like,
Speaker:19, 20, kinda, like, removed myself from the friends
Speaker:that I had had and moved away. And they started doing a
Speaker:lot of, like, introspective work and doing, like, all
Speaker:these books on, like, how
Speaker:to access your intuition and doing, like,
Speaker:these kind of, like, guided meditations and things like
Speaker:that. That nature kinda just to sense what the subconscious
Speaker:mind felt like. And I put myself,
Speaker:like I said, through kind of like a scientific method type of situation
Speaker:where I would kind of see what
Speaker:was actually, like, made sense for me. or
Speaker:if it was just, like, fleeting passing thoughts or whatever. And as I kind of
Speaker:began to refine my experiences, I found
Speaker:that There was so much healing from my own trauma, from my
Speaker:own experiences with any even me
Speaker:practicing mindfulness techniques by myself.
Speaker:You know? We see, like, this whole world of, like, you
Speaker:know, retreat centers that cost 1000 and 1000 of dollars.
Speaker:and therapists that maybe get accessible to other people. And
Speaker:all these things that have pretty hefty price tags on for some
Speaker:people. Mhmm. And we have to understand that the tools are also very accessible
Speaker:within us. Mhmm. Yeah. You know,
Speaker:I am one, obviously, to facilitate a safe
Speaker:space. But if we can pace ourselves and we can just listen
Speaker:to the voice that's inside of us, they just sit present. A
Speaker:lot of that information is revealed to us in a safe way
Speaker:because we're not pushing ourselves, so we're not setting unrealistic
Speaker:expectations for healing and then moving forward in in the course
Speaker:of an hour, you know, those type of things. Yeah.
Speaker:Absolutely. because you're the ones that you're the one that is setting the
Speaker:limit. You're the one that's deciding, okay. This
Speaker:is this is my goal. Oh, wait. That was too much. Like, let me
Speaker:dial back. You you you know what's going on in your own
Speaker:mind to be able to to navigate it a little bit
Speaker:easier. There's not another person to to kind of
Speaker:further complicate the process for a lack of better words.
Speaker:And yes. And a lot of us
Speaker:need to feel comfortable in something before we trust someone else,
Speaker:especially if we if we have issues with with trust
Speaker:or issues, you know, handing over a little bit of the reins.
Speaker:Mhmm. And so going into going to see, like, a
Speaker:practitioner like you or like myself is
Speaker:really beneficial because we can get you to we can assist you to
Speaker:get deeper to really feel like
Speaker:giving you a kind of holistic experience while
Speaker:diving deeper, but if you could have the fundamental
Speaker:ins and, like, the understanding of the ins and outs of how you
Speaker:function, I mean, you're gonna get there.
Speaker:Yeah. So much faster. And so much with so much less distrust
Speaker:and resistance. because you can trust yourself. You're like, oh, okay. I know when my
Speaker:body is telling you. I know when my body is is
Speaker:showing up and and you know, I have some resistance. Okay. Well,
Speaker:I know a little bit of of, like, really helps me a little bit. Our
Speaker:visualizing my safe space helps me helps me a little bit. Yeah. And I can
Speaker:implement those tools. That was cost nothing. Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. It's like starting your own it's starting your
Speaker:healing journey before seeking out a professional. So, like,
Speaker:really seeing, okay, what what do I need to
Speaker:feel? You know? Like, I'm on solid ground where I'm on in in
Speaker:a safe space. before I seek out another person
Speaker:to invite into that space. Mhmm. Humans
Speaker:are humans. I mean, Therabus are
Speaker:humans. Your doctors are humans, so it's really important
Speaker:to have a to have some navigation, if possible. If
Speaker:it accessible. And I'm saying this as a blanket statement. We could probably
Speaker:talk about all the little fine prints that kind of
Speaker:separate you know, the the categories of this.
Speaker:But using your own internal navigation,
Speaker:do discern if particular therapist or a particular
Speaker:modality works for you. We talked about that
Speaker:on my podcast. It's it's so extremely important
Speaker:Because then you can go in and you can go in with trust, and you
Speaker:can feel very comfortable. And I
Speaker:found that trust trust is, like, such a small word with
Speaker:such a gut wrench and punch sometimes.
Speaker:trust is one of those things that,
Speaker:in my opinion, from my perspective as a hypnotherapist,
Speaker:allows us to access all parts of ourselves.
Speaker:So if we can start to really flirt
Speaker:with pick like, pick what is this?
Speaker:Like, an ice pick thing? Right? Like, hitting away yeah. Right? Like,
Speaker:hitting away at the ice Yeah. -- old piece by little piece,
Speaker:then -- Mhmm. -- you know, eventually, something's going
Speaker:through. Yeah. chipping away. Yeah. That's the 1.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I well and I still
Speaker:I keep coming back to this feeling of, like, that
Speaker:that trust in yourself that listening to your
Speaker:intuition, listening to your own inner wisdom, and
Speaker:feeling like you have a starting place with
Speaker:that. Like, you you can know what it feels like or know what it
Speaker:sounds like she or no, you know, just I don't it's
Speaker:I don't know. For me, it's a very visceral feeling, so I'm, like, shaking my
Speaker:shoulders, but just just knowing, like, where it's at free, where it
Speaker:resides, you then know when you're having a conversation with
Speaker:someone about a potential you know, healing modality to know, like,
Speaker:to lean in, like, to feel like, oh, yes. Like, this is what I need.
Speaker:Like, I imagine that is your subconscious playing out because your intuition that
Speaker:you're listening to. Is that that kinda what I'm picking
Speaker:up? Yes. And something that you mentioned that I'm not sure that
Speaker:you picked up on, or or maybe you're not sure
Speaker:of. You mentioned that you kinda, like for those
Speaker:that are listening, She's kinda, like, bobbing her shoulders or whatever, talking about
Speaker:how she she experiences kind of her intuition viscerally, which
Speaker:is one of the major parts of hypnosis and hypnotherapy in
Speaker:particular because someone like myself is trained
Speaker:to Notice what particular sense
Speaker:like, sense of the body you respond to.
Speaker:It's coming from your language in. So if you're a kinesthetic learner,
Speaker:maybe those guided meditations on YouTube aren't gonna work for you.
Speaker:Mhmm. Because everything is very visually centered. Right? So maybe you can't
Speaker:visualize it. Maybe you have a hard time. You're like, I can't meditate. You know?
Speaker:One of those people in my clients are like, I can't meditate. I was like,
Speaker:okay. wanna you wanna bet, but
Speaker:it's because you may be more kinesthetic in nature. So
Speaker:types of meditations or types of
Speaker:mindfulness practices maybe going on a walk and thinking. Right?
Speaker:Getting your body moving, yoga, kickboxing,
Speaker:you know, things that are more active in nature or have
Speaker:maybe even luxurious in nature. Right? Like, maybe you need to,
Speaker:like, Your body needs to be told, like, chill,
Speaker:mout. Go get a massage. Chill out. Go take a
Speaker:bath. Maybe that's where your meditative space is or
Speaker:your mindful space. Maybe that's where the place you go
Speaker:to when you want to really, really align,
Speaker:get in touch with your body, activate the parasympathetic nervous system. The same thing
Speaker:goes with the other senses. So if you're visually if you're a visual
Speaker:learner, practice art. Right?
Speaker:Like, watch the, like, they have, like,
Speaker:these beautiful, like, montages of -- Yeah. -- that whole things
Speaker:and allow your mind to kind of decompress that way. If
Speaker:you're auditory, listen to really positive intentional music. I know
Speaker:people that cannot calm down
Speaker:cannot chill out unless they have headphones on, and they're listening to
Speaker:something that makes them feel
Speaker:The actives mhmm. Yeah. It brings them down.
Speaker:So know that mindfulness is
Speaker:also a century experience. So, you
Speaker:know, if something doesn't work, if you feel really pulled visually or or
Speaker:auditorially or even There's this different
Speaker:segment, which is auditory digital, which is its own thing. But if
Speaker:you feel pulled to one of those three senses, I would encourage
Speaker:you even in your just your downtime or just flirt with the idea that maybe,
Speaker:like, I didn't access, you know, a content mindful
Speaker:space or the alpha brainwaves or whatever by this, but maybe
Speaker:I'll try this because the the journey is individual.
Speaker:It so is. Yeah. So is
Speaker:and I wanna kinda bounce off that for a second and ensure this
Speaker:little nugget that I heard as
Speaker:when we experience a trigger, like,
Speaker:when the trigger is, like, the most of this role. So when
Speaker:it really is bother some thinking about what 5
Speaker:senses that taps into. So if it's an
Speaker:auditory if it's a physical, if it's whatever that piece
Speaker:is. And then knowing that on the flip side of that,
Speaker:the kind of, like, that's where you're
Speaker:that's where it's gonna be the strongest for you to key into that for mindfulness.
Speaker:So if it's auditory, like, listening to that track, if it's
Speaker:physical, like, taking the the hot shower with, like, the you
Speaker:know, whatever, like, the sensory components. So figuring out,
Speaker:like, whatever that trigger is that's the most bothersome or the most
Speaker:upsetting knowing that that's tied to
Speaker:the flipside of a potential healing point. Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. Our bodies have the ability
Speaker:to process all this information that we're receiving every
Speaker:day, kinda swing our swing our navigation.
Speaker:But Arvadi's also have the intelligence to
Speaker:release the compress. We have all of the tools within us
Speaker:And those around us, I'm not saying we are again, we're not -- Mhmm. --
Speaker:islands, but maybe you have something and a piece
Speaker:of wisdom that I don't know. something that I can implement my daily life,
Speaker:and that's also, again, why connecting with others and talking
Speaker:and sharing can be so beneficial.
Speaker:Mhmm. Yeah. Agreed. Well, and something you said
Speaker:about, you know, we're not islands and, like, making
Speaker:this accessible not just within, like, ourselves, but also, like, within
Speaker:a community piece. One other question. So
Speaker:I feel like we kind of been have been dancing around, but I wanna say
Speaker:it explicitly. So, you know, anyone who listening can
Speaker:also hear that. But is is this
Speaker:ability to access this part of ourselves accessible to every
Speaker:single person? Or do you have to do something specific? Is
Speaker:there a a particular dance or a
Speaker:a course or whatever. You know? What what do you what does it
Speaker:take Hell no. It's
Speaker:accessible all the time for everyone.
Speaker:And I I would argue to say,
Speaker:I'm not arguing. All of us have trauma in some way, shape, or form. All
Speaker:of us have something that has
Speaker:hit us to the core as stuck to the part of our
Speaker:process. has taken a piece away from us, and
Speaker:all of it
Speaker:is accessible. And it doesn't have to be a really
Speaker:visceral experience. It can just be going out
Speaker:and going to yoga class and just you know, sitting in Shavasana and
Speaker:crying. Mhmm. I'm gonna be honest with you,
Speaker:I all the best yoga classes you're gonna you're gonna sit and tear up a
Speaker:little bit or something. Like, you're you're body and your mind are working
Speaker:together or whatever to process and release.
Speaker:Maybe it's just going out to a community event. Maybe
Speaker:it's joining an online forum for people that like art. Maybe it
Speaker:is You know, it doesn't have to be this like, I did
Speaker:Ayahuasca, and I came up the other side. And, you know, if you don't feel
Speaker:comfortable or you don't think it's accessible in that space, you don't have to dive
Speaker:back deep. But as you are growing and
Speaker:you're kind of looking in the mirror of of what you may need,
Speaker:sometimes those fear based places
Speaker:are the places that you kinda physically even need to go
Speaker:to an honor to access deeper
Speaker:parts deeper parts of who you are.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And part of what I
Speaker:heard you almost say is, like, the curiosity
Speaker:behind it, like, approaching it. And
Speaker:in my work with trauma survivors, I feel like
Speaker:curiosity can be Curiosity and vulnerability can be
Speaker:like 4 letter 4 letter words. Like, they are not things that
Speaker:we approach with kindness and and and excitement and happiness a lot of the
Speaker:times. And so I think just even
Speaker:finding, like, the 2% of curiosity or the
Speaker:2% of vulnerability, the 2% of like, okay.
Speaker:This is the wiggle room that I can move in today. Right? And this is
Speaker:the little bit that I can see, you know, what this feels like for
Speaker:me or, you know, whatever to kind of prove to
Speaker:yourself, like, an experiment like what you talked about of,
Speaker:oh, hey. Like, it's okay. Right? Like, Actually, that
Speaker:was kind of fun. Oh, wow. I haven't felt that before. And I
Speaker:actually I think that that felt really good, like, to my nervous system, to my
Speaker:myself, or whatever. to then go for 5%
Speaker:or whatever the case is until it does feel,
Speaker:you know, like you're in a good space and feel like it's
Speaker:something that feels good for you individually. because like you said, it's such
Speaker:an individual process of a individual journey
Speaker:for sure. Mhmm. I'm going
Speaker:to share something, and I'm sure she'd be totally fine with it. I
Speaker:was At a session with a client yesterday, no details obviously.
Speaker:But I created a little chart for her. she was like, I really
Speaker:wanna, like, tap into my life purpose. And intuitively,
Speaker:I was like, your life purpose is ever
Speaker:changing. Right? Your life purpose is
Speaker:what fuels your passion and what fuels your happiness.
Speaker:Right? So oftentimes, we get we
Speaker:get jumbled by buzzwords, and we get jumbled by
Speaker:concepts. And we get jumbled by, you know, this short and
Speaker:sweet little Instagram post that -- Mhmm. -- someone else posted, and we think that
Speaker:we have to define ourselves buy back in its entirety.
Speaker:And we're trying to find a solution between thing a
Speaker:and thing b. And I was like, what what
Speaker:is your what makes you feel passionate? And what makes you feel
Speaker:like you would feel happy doing that. Mhmm. Well, there's a little
Speaker:bit of unsure. You know, there's there's always gonna be a little bit of unsure
Speaker:energy behind what feels exciting. and passionate, but
Speaker:this passionate is going to a coffee shop around today and gaining a
Speaker:little bit of independence and gaining a little bit of solitude and
Speaker:not having to work around everyone else's
Speaker:schedule. Maybe your medicine is back today. Right? Yeah. It's
Speaker:always gonna feel a little bit scary, but at least you know you're safe in
Speaker:that place rather than again going to the deep end of healing
Speaker:and Mhmm. Doing something that means a
Speaker:practitioner. If that makes sense? Yeah. And that that
Speaker:piece of listening to ourselves first, to
Speaker:to navigate to find that inner wisdom before, you know,
Speaker:diving into, like, okay. Like, this is what I'm I'm doing. Before I
Speaker:even start the journey, I'm going to to go I don't
Speaker:know. You said the deep end, and that's why it keeps coming back to my
Speaker:brain of you know, diving off the the diving
Speaker:board into the deep end of this healing process. Like, it's
Speaker:it's taking those baby steps. Yeah. Baby's such a
Speaker:huge I don't okay. So I'm gonna tell you, I'm
Speaker:a yoga instructor, and I don't know how mine's I've
Speaker:been like, I don't wanna go to the studio because I don't know anyone. You
Speaker:know what I'm saying that is? You know how crazy that is? That is my
Speaker:environment. I trade in that environment. I've been to diff I I've worked in different
Speaker:studios. I I work in a studio now, like, It's so
Speaker:silly, but my thing has always been, okay, my medicine is
Speaker:I go out and I need to be seen without other
Speaker:people. I need to, like, have solitude by myself, and that's my medicine.
Speaker:Yeah. Yeah. That makes a lot
Speaker:of sense. It's the question I wanna make sure we hit
Speaker:on. What are you able to find
Speaker:in the subconscious mind that is different from the conscious mind?
Speaker:shoot. K. The main thing
Speaker:that's in the subconscious mind that I have a lot of interest in
Speaker:is belief systems and fears.
Speaker:Believe systems we've had, it's okay. It's like -- Can hear
Speaker:him. Poor little guy. He just wants to come hang out.
Speaker:And you know, actually, that's really funny that you say that because
Speaker:that is what's in the subconscious mind. Also, past
Speaker:versions of ourselves that are are crying and kicking and
Speaker:screaming and want their own shit
Speaker:And, you know, I didn't get this when I was I didn't get my cell
Speaker:phone when I was eleven years old. I got it when I was fourteen years
Speaker:old, and and I deserved that. you know, those kinds of things that
Speaker:-- Yeah. -- that all of that is there. So it's it's funny how
Speaker:like, oh, some adults act like children or some, you know,
Speaker:things of that nature is because we actually have -- Yeah. --
Speaker:those memories and those thoughts within us that are
Speaker:really like I said, they're running the show. Mhmm. So
Speaker:these belief systems can look like I am
Speaker:unlovable. I am not worthy of
Speaker:attention or or love or or
Speaker:security or a child. Like, there's so many different
Speaker:things that we don't think that we deserve. We don't deserve to be
Speaker:heard. We don't deserve to be You know, we
Speaker:have all of our anger, defense mechanisms, and all of those things in those
Speaker:places. And then, also, it's a big
Speaker:circle, but it's it's all of the fears that we have. So if
Speaker:we have all of these on the con in the conscious mind where we're
Speaker:like, okay. I really wanna get this new job, and the new
Speaker:job has is a particular
Speaker:amount more than you may currently a lot of times, we'll stop
Speaker:sabotage, and we don't think that we're worth that money. We don't think -- --
Speaker:worthiness. Yeah. All of all of those
Speaker:impostor syndrome. All of those things exist there. And I think
Speaker:it's beautiful that there's so much mental
Speaker:health awareness. There's so much more mindfulness work and practitioners
Speaker:in these spaces to make some of these things a little bit more
Speaker:in the light rather than even, like, 20 years ago.
Speaker:Oh my god. 30 years ago, Hell, we would
Speaker:never be talking about this. Nope. Your your parents or my parents
Speaker:are definitely your grandparents generations. Oh, yeah.
Speaker:No. Jump it down. But that is the
Speaker:culture that is the culture of how they were raised. They
Speaker:don't know. have the idea
Speaker:that emotional intelligence is even a thing. A lot of them don't even think it's
Speaker:a relevant part of our everyday lives. Right? So they project
Speaker:and they you know, we could get into that all day long.
Speaker:But notice how we're just as you and I as
Speaker:millennials are just starting to kind of like, okay. Like, I'd
Speaker:like to help. And how do I help? You know? Whereas, like, generation
Speaker:underneath us. They're way more open about their mental health issues.
Speaker:They're way more accepting of other people to mental
Speaker:health issues. They're you know, and it's just gonna get
Speaker:unfortunately, we're, like, a little bit of the grandparents of, like, the
Speaker:modern generation where we're, like, I have
Speaker:anxiety and depression. It's like anxiety and depression has
Speaker:existed since time -- Oh, yeah. -- existed. As soon as we put
Speaker:pressures on humans, as soon as we created, like, societal
Speaker:structures of money and hierarchy and
Speaker:certain classes, you know, that was it. That was it.
Speaker:You know? Yeah. So all of the
Speaker:Even, like, generational, comma, those kinds of things,
Speaker:what our core values are So what where we
Speaker:actually stand, and that could be influenced by mom or dad. So it's very
Speaker:interesting when you start to peel back the layers.
Speaker:Maybe consciously, you're like, I'm a very you know, I'm all about morals and
Speaker:ethics, and then, you know, mom or dad have these
Speaker:deceiving qualities about them. and then kind of program a little
Speaker:bit. Not program. I don't wanna say it, like, they're, like, you know,
Speaker:whatever. Not puppeteering. anything. But -- No. Not essentially,
Speaker:but -- Yeah. -- you know, Ultra is Holcher. Right? Like -- Yeah. --
Speaker:generates generational connection is is very strong.
Speaker:Yeah. We learn from what we know, from what we see. And so
Speaker:patterns and behaviors come from somewhere. Right?
Speaker:Whether it's a mom or a dad or a grandparent
Speaker:or whoever you were around to see whatever
Speaker:behaviors or things, good or bad, you know, we learn
Speaker:from what we know. We take that in. Mhmm. We take that
Speaker:information in. Yeah. And some of
Speaker:it's even genetic, which is crazy. Some of it is absolutely
Speaker:genetic. So it's very interesting. Mhmm. When you start to do
Speaker:work, you have the tools to
Speaker:start differentiating where the influences are.
Speaker:Right? Yeah. without intellectualizing our process
Speaker:too much because we wanna be able to process and we wanna be able
Speaker:to feel -- Yeah. -- we start to understand
Speaker:Okay. This has come from mom's side. This has come from dad's side. This has
Speaker:come from my teenage years where I
Speaker:had more trauma than other, you know, segments of my
Speaker:life. Does this come from my niche,
Speaker:Rubel? Like, does this, you know, where does this come from? Maybe
Speaker:I can accept and forgive myself for that.
Speaker:And I can use my tools to
Speaker:now shape what is going to be my
Speaker:future with that knowledge. Yeah. You know, by my own actions are
Speaker:how I operate in the world. Or when that trigger comes up,
Speaker:it gave me the anger that jealousy or that thing,
Speaker:I can tell you to just gently rework it through my tools and
Speaker:tell, eventually, your body believes that it is no longer
Speaker:that. Yeah. It's
Speaker:it's I mean, not to to stay on that that
Speaker:the first word that popped in my head is to reprogram. like, you know, too
Speaker:literally reprogrammed, and that sounds a little
Speaker:cold for for what it really is because it's
Speaker:not it's not cold. It's not calculated
Speaker:in any capacity. It's it's actually a lot of really
Speaker:hard freaking work. Like, you know, to every time something
Speaker:comes up or every time that trigger comes up to
Speaker:bend, to shift, and to mold.
Speaker:an opposite of the reprogramming word that popped up in my
Speaker:brain. I was seeing, like, Almost like a
Speaker:a clump of clay that's kind of, like, hardened over time. Right? You kinda, like,
Speaker:rewet and, like, just rework and, like, just slowly start to get
Speaker:it to mold in the in the direction that you're needing, but it still
Speaker:requires, like, the the water a little bit at it, you know, whatever.
Speaker:and the work. And that's what you're doing is this this thing
Speaker:has already set. It's been its own
Speaker:piece, and now you're you're starting to rework it and to mold
Speaker:it in a different direction, and it's hard.
Speaker:I I love that analogy. I'm, like, writing notes down, and I had to write
Speaker:down Clay, and I had to write down. So if he's listening because I was
Speaker:resonating so much, You know, this kind
Speaker:of work. And I'm gonna speak just on behalf of hypnosis
Speaker:and specifically, like altered states of consciousness
Speaker:type, like, even, like, breath work, things like that where you access, you kind
Speaker:of shift into a different part of yourself.
Speaker:These things strongly activate the prefund
Speaker:prefrontal cortex. Yeah. These are the decision making parts of your
Speaker:body. So you're actually reprogramming your
Speaker:ability to to to process.
Speaker:Yeah. So it is it it and it is something that I
Speaker:have seen personally among different practices
Speaker:and belief systems and cultures and things like that that
Speaker:are synonymous with healing is accessing
Speaker:these parts of your mind that
Speaker:are able to change, are willing to change. Right? Like,
Speaker:invoking the theta brain state, right, the
Speaker:brain waves that up behind, that are right before when you go
Speaker:to bed, and you are the most susceptible to suggestion right there.
Speaker:If you know that piece of information,
Speaker:you can listen to positive music before
Speaker:bed. You can just
Speaker:even to, like, reprogram the mind before bed. Right?
Speaker:You can do intentional work or journaling
Speaker:before bed. You can do some breath work before bed. and
Speaker:know that your body is the most susceptible -- Mhmm. -- right before
Speaker:you hit your pillow or right when you hit your pillow
Speaker:right before you go to bed. Yeah. And knowing that the
Speaker:brain can work hand in hand with the work that
Speaker:we're doing because, truly, it does.
Speaker:Mhmm. Yeah. Our brains are such powerful things.
Speaker:Such such yeah. It makes me think of, you know, what we
Speaker:talked about earlier, just like the the untapped potential
Speaker:that is there. You know, it's it's so
Speaker:so much. So big, and we're just
Speaker:barely learning we're barely, again, scratching the surface and understanding of,
Speaker:like, what what does this all mean? And what can we do
Speaker:differently? And how can we How can we tap into that potential?
Speaker:And I really love that, you know, that it is within us
Speaker:and that, you know, as you shared, like, that we can
Speaker:we can tap into that at any time because it is within a part of
Speaker:ourselves instead of, like, oh, okay. I have to I have to go
Speaker:and get this degree or I have to go and see this person. Like,
Speaker:obviously, there there's a time and a place for those things, and
Speaker:the healing journey starts within us and and where
Speaker:we are and tapping into who we are and what we need.
Speaker:Mhmm. So powerful. Yeah. There's nothing.
Speaker:I'm one for certifications. I'm one for trainings. I'm one
Speaker:for getting involved. I'm a forever for ever
Speaker:student and -- Mhmm.
Speaker:-- an educational background does
Speaker:not does not isolate
Speaker:intelligence, does not mean that someone has
Speaker:more than the next person, and it doesn't quantify
Speaker:someone's -- Yeah. -- purpose.
Speaker:Yeah. The education, if that's what you feel pulled
Speaker:to or towards or whatever,
Speaker:but humans were doing a long time before that. Oh, yeah.
Speaker:Absolutely. The idea of being able to
Speaker:sit with ourselves as the teacher and to be able
Speaker:to, again, that curiosity leaning into
Speaker:to what we need and to learn learn from ourselves
Speaker:and from our own wisdom rather than just like this external
Speaker:compass that's always guiding us, and I think about what you said about the
Speaker:Instagram posts and and all of those pieces of we have
Speaker:so much external stuff coming in constantly, but to really
Speaker:tune in to ourselves
Speaker:and have us, you know, our our heart mind
Speaker:soul body, you know, whatever everything. be the teacher
Speaker:is is such valuable wisdom.
Speaker:Such such gold, gold nuggets. I see. It's just
Speaker:you know, it's all in there. And I'm just gonna
Speaker:add one little thing about -- Yes. -- just talking about with curiosity.
Speaker:Curiosity is the body's way of reprogramming
Speaker:belief systems that don't work for us. Yeah.
Speaker:So curiosity is a good thing. It is a sign
Speaker:that you're able to move forward. Yes. You
Speaker:have little interest. You have a little -- Mhmm. -- study
Speaker:something new or whatever. Your body's asking for new patterns. Yeah.
Speaker:We'll start Yeah. Exactly. The reason why we don't feel comfortable
Speaker:with those types of things is maybe it's, again, all of
Speaker:our influence, family, friends, or otherwise culture, whatever, may have
Speaker:not been used to that particular type of information.
Speaker:Mhmm. So it feels foreign. And our body is
Speaker:responding like it's a it's a threat -- Yeah. -- because it
Speaker:does. That's
Speaker:so valuable. I'm so glad you said that. So,
Speaker:Kiely, this conversation has been so
Speaker:wonderful. And like I said, I I feel
Speaker:like we could go and talk about this this type of
Speaker:topic and these types of pieces for a long time.
Speaker:But before we shift gears and take a break, I wanna just check-in with you
Speaker:and see if there's any other pieces that you wanna share related to
Speaker:today's episode, to today's topic, and what we have been
Speaker:diving into so far? Just
Speaker:encouragement. I'm just so excited for
Speaker:whoever is listening to
Speaker:this episode or your podcast in general. that is
Speaker:such a positive shift in your life, and
Speaker:positive resources allows you to
Speaker:grow. And so keep it up, baby. Keep it
Speaker:up. That's it. I love that.
Speaker:Okay. with those wonderful words, we are going to take a
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Speaker:which will be in the show notes. Alright. Let's get back to today's
Speaker:episode. Alright. We
Speaker:are back with Kili Mehta. for the last bit
Speaker:of our show, and this part of the show is
Speaker:talking about how providers are not robots. And I feel like we've touched on this
Speaker:many times throughout today's episode. But in this small
Speaker:section of the show, we just talk about examples of our humanness,
Speaker:and This was kind of born out
Speaker:of this idea that I think a lot of the times when people first
Speaker:come to see a provider of any kind, it's It can be a
Speaker:little daunting, a little intimidating because we're seeing them kind of
Speaker:in this this box. And, you know, to
Speaker:kind of break out of that box and break out of that mold and to
Speaker:show that we are, in fact, humans, yeah, to share a
Speaker:little bit of our our humanness we don't live in a bubble,
Speaker:and we are, in fact, real live people.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:For me, it always goes back to you in my own practice and in my
Speaker:own experiences. We all have families.
Speaker:We don't have projections and and things
Speaker:like that out of that nature.
Speaker:expectations and judgments and things like that. And
Speaker:one of the most powerful things and most difficult
Speaker:things that I have gone through and people similar
Speaker:to me have been through is
Speaker:the the opportunity
Speaker:to I wouldn't say it's an opportunity,
Speaker:the work. to understand your loved
Speaker:ones, and how do I put
Speaker:this?
Speaker:and not hold expectation for them to
Speaker:change.
Speaker:we all have it, and it can be really difficult when you start
Speaker:to sincerely grow. Not grow conceptually, but
Speaker:sincerely, grow and change your habits and change
Speaker:what makes you tick. And naturally,
Speaker:those that have always been closest to you especially if
Speaker:there's, like, codependent connections are going to have some sort of
Speaker:identity in you. Mhmm.
Speaker:that reflects them. So when you start to shift or you start to
Speaker:change for the betterment of you, even if it's
Speaker:worth no expectation that anyone else is gonna shift or change with
Speaker:you. Their
Speaker:identity is is no longer what they
Speaker:hadn't thought it was. Yeah. So this is a natural part of anyone's
Speaker:situation as they grow and progress
Speaker:And most of the time now some of us are very lucky,
Speaker:and some of us have are are really gifted with amazing
Speaker:family members that are empathetic.
Speaker:But sometimes, there's just no capacity
Speaker:at that moment in time. for family
Speaker:members to understand or to get why you're
Speaker:doing what you're doing or get why you press this, what you practice, or
Speaker:believe how you believe, or like how you live. And for
Speaker:me, in my humanness, this is always my medicine.
Speaker:And I think that's probably why my clients are
Speaker:similar to me because they have just,
Speaker:like, extending your arm out in a community circle,
Speaker:they know that there is possibly a piece of information that I
Speaker:can provide for them or a little bit of perspective
Speaker:as I've gone through this journey and I've gone through this
Speaker:journey continuously. Yeah. And that is my new
Speaker:business. Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. Almost kind of, like, showing up a little bit as
Speaker:a a mirror for our our people that we work with
Speaker:and and not just for their own reflection that they're
Speaker:proceeding, right, but that you know, we we see parts of ourselves
Speaker:in there too and to really
Speaker:oh, I come back to this feeling of, like, to just just viscerally
Speaker:understand, like, you know, hey. Like, it's it's
Speaker:okay. You're not alone. And to be able to share
Speaker:either nuggets of wisdom or just just pieces
Speaker:as as a provider as a human
Speaker:to kinda come alongside them in that journey so that they they
Speaker:aren't alone. We're not you and
Speaker:I, people like us or providers or what have you.
Speaker:We're not robots, but really not.
Speaker:And And
Speaker:if you find someone that you feel like connects to you
Speaker:on a real empathetic level,
Speaker:What's gonna happen is their their
Speaker:experience or life experience and their tools are going to be
Speaker:hopefully given to you. Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. And
Speaker:like I said, y'all have families, and y'all have influences in
Speaker:some way, shape, or form. And so -- Yeah. So
Speaker:it's okay to share that. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker:If you had one tip that you wish
Speaker:everyone on earth would know about
Speaker:whether it's self regulation, it's it's some kind of trauma
Speaker:piece, the world of
Speaker:healing as you work through it. what do you wish
Speaker:that everyone would know?
Speaker:There's something that our bodies can do in
Speaker:terms of regulation. And you
Speaker:can see it in, like, tremor release therapy
Speaker:things of that nature, where if we are
Speaker:feeling overwhelmed or anxious and we're feeling like
Speaker:trauma is impacting us. We have the ability
Speaker:to actually start to shake up some of
Speaker:that travel within the body. So you
Speaker:can see this in videos with animals who have
Speaker:been through really and you can Google it. You can let her I think there's,
Speaker:like, several videos online, but I know one particular that has a lot of
Speaker:views on YouTube, and it's, like, It's something about, like,
Speaker:a Gazelle getting caught by a
Speaker:lion in the Savannah or wherever.
Speaker:Literally got caught by line and played dead. Mhmm.
Speaker:And this lion had its bricks, I believe, on its on its
Speaker:neck. And for all intents and purposes, if you would have started
Speaker:admitting it there, you would have thought that the gazalins have had passed away.
Speaker:And I think the line got scared or or bored or
Speaker:whatever, and then just ran off, didn't do anything. Mhmm. And you can see the
Speaker:gazelle after a little bit of time start to
Speaker:get back on its feet, and you could see it actually tremoring and shaking
Speaker:to release that kind of
Speaker:That's -- Like, adrenaline, the stuff. Yeah. That adrenaline, that stuff
Speaker:in the body. And we have the ability
Speaker:to to do something similar. That's why sometimes dancing and
Speaker:shaking and letting loose and getting angry and punching the air -- Mhmm.
Speaker:-- is something that feels so good because trauma actually kind of
Speaker:the intelligence of our body, trauma sits within the body because sometimes
Speaker:anxiety sits in the heart, anxiety sits in between the ribs and
Speaker:the solar plexus. So you get mad. You
Speaker:get angry, punch. Like, punch the air, go crazy,
Speaker:shake it out, If you feel like
Speaker:you're, you know, you're stuck at your side of this, shake your hips, move around,
Speaker:get, like, allowing your body to process some
Speaker:of that stuff. I'm not saying you're not gonna have to talk about the stuff
Speaker:and also continue to integrate, but we actually do
Speaker:have a regulatory system that allows us to get back
Speaker:at least into -- Mhmm. -- out of that adrenaline space. If
Speaker:we just, like, continue to shade, continue why it's sometimes
Speaker:happening helps. Like -- Yeah. Mhmm. -- 50, things like that because
Speaker:it actually activates -- Mhmm. -- kind of us
Speaker:regulating ourselves Yeah. So I don't know if that's number 1. I
Speaker:don't know if that's whatever, but I know that that's something that's super accessible for
Speaker:most of us. Yeah. Yeah. I think even just
Speaker:starting with when you hit those moments of,
Speaker:like, something is trying to be released. However, that looks like,
Speaker:whether it's our hands shaking or, you know, whatever,
Speaker:that we allow it to be released to listen again to the
Speaker:intuitiveness of our of our bodies and of our, you
Speaker:know, our our brains and and to to just kind of
Speaker:allow ourselves to do something maybe a little bit out of our
Speaker:comfort zone to see what it feels like to to
Speaker:dance, to punch, to, you know, whatever in that in that safe care
Speaker:of our butt. That's right. That's right.
Speaker:Whatever that looks like. Yeah. You know, to be able to see, like, oh, hey.
Speaker:Like, I did that, and I actually felt a little better or I felt like
Speaker:I could breathe a little easier or my hands don't feel like that
Speaker:anymore. Whatever the case is is to just feel
Speaker:the shift and to know that it's okay?
Speaker:Yes. Okay. Alright. So
Speaker:the final fast and sometimes funny questions that I like to ask at the
Speaker:end of our show is a good way to wrap up. Again,
Speaker:just to hone in on our humanness and to have some fun.
Speaker:So the first question I have for you is you could go
Speaker:anywhere on Earth, where would you go?
Speaker:I would wanna go to the center of the Earth. Oh. What
Speaker:the hell is in there? Nobody actually knows. That'd be
Speaker:insane to me. That would be insane. I just
Speaker:wanna know what's in there. Tell me what the what the like, they've got
Speaker:these hypotheses, but no one's really been in there. So, like -- Sure. -- tell
Speaker:me what's inside or the bottom of the ocean. Tell me what kind of
Speaker:alien, like, freaky deaky creatures there
Speaker:are. Oh, yeah. Nigerian. Yeah.
Speaker:I I can see a lot of cool artwork, cool
Speaker:pictures coming out of that those realms. because you're right. Yeah.
Speaker:They're so untapped into you. That's yeah.
Speaker:Should pineapple be on pizza? Yes.
Speaker:Yes. A 100%. Honestly, I think it's so rude when
Speaker:people say, is it? Because it is, like, the best I'm sorry. It's
Speaker:so no. It's so delicious. I'm a I'm a I'm a pineapple person,
Speaker:but I thought you were gonna leave. You're really so
Speaker:rude of those 2. I know, Pete, out. Like,
Speaker:that's so funny. So delicious. It's so sweet. I my husband
Speaker:tried it one time, and he was like, if like, an abomination, and I was
Speaker:like, you're dramatic and you're disrespectful. So --
Speaker:So funny. Yeah. I I put the question in there, and it's so
Speaker:funny because this has been, like, a conversation piece on each
Speaker:episode of It's just such a strong opinion,
Speaker:like, a polarizing thing. I think it's delicious. I I think I
Speaker:shared this in another episode But I especially love it when the
Speaker:pineapple is cold, but the pizza is hot. So, like, I don't know --
Speaker:That's so sweet. -- to me. Oh my gosh. I think it's the best. with
Speaker:barbecue sauce. Barbecue sauce. Yes. Okay. So this is probably why
Speaker:we're drawn to each other on the spiritual level because of that. We just know.
Speaker:It's my favorite. It's I, like, don't even wanna have anything else.
Speaker:My pizza. That's it. It's good stuff.
Speaker:What makes you feel inspired or motivated
Speaker:to do this work that you love? You know what? I
Speaker:love when I see my clients, and
Speaker:they give me all of a sudden it clicks for them.
Speaker:they're like, oh, yeah. And so my intuition was guiding me to do some
Speaker:journaling, and so I did it. That
Speaker:oh my god. that is so cool. I don't even wanna say
Speaker:for a warning. It is so cool to watch the oh my god. I'm getting
Speaker:teary eyed, but it's so cool to be able to watch
Speaker:someone's -- Yeah. -- inner navigation system.
Speaker:Like, they start to trust it, and then -- Uh-huh. -- that's it. It is
Speaker:the coolest feeling in the world and the reason why I freaking
Speaker:exist on this planet. guess. I
Speaker:I resonate with that a 100%. I yeah. It's
Speaker:there is nothing quite like watching someone
Speaker:embrace or have that light bulb moment of of,
Speaker:oh, like, oh, this is what I can do or this is how, you know,
Speaker:it's It's the best. Yeah.
Speaker:There really is. What is one thing that people are
Speaker:generally surprised to find out about you?
Speaker:I'm not an extrovert. I'm not -- You're, like, the
Speaker:3rd person to say that. I I -- Really? Yes. And I think
Speaker:I'm finding I would love to do a poll of
Speaker:helping professionals because I think that most of us would be
Speaker:considered like a Not construed. But, you
Speaker:know, from the outside looking in that most people say, oh, yeah. You're, like, an
Speaker:extra right. Right? Like, you spend all your time with people. but most I think
Speaker:helping professionals are really introverts. So I'm sorry to cut you off. Please
Speaker:go ahead. No. You didn't. No. You didn't. You're talking to me. No.
Speaker:I I have always had a
Speaker:really not always. I really worked on it very This is one of
Speaker:the things that my subconscious mind, like, I had to -- Mhmm. --
Speaker:whatever. But I have always
Speaker:been able to, for the most part, my adult life, have been able
Speaker:to hold conversation and be, like,
Speaker:bubbly and, you know, like,
Speaker:like laughing and really enjoy people or whatever. And I do. I truly
Speaker:do. I actually gave a lot of energy from just existing
Speaker:outside, doing things outside, however.
Speaker:My home is the most sacred space that I
Speaker:have. Mhmm. I'm an artist. So I'd love to
Speaker:create art. I'd love to like, my idea of
Speaker:my, like, favorite night is working with my
Speaker:plants and painting on the wall. and
Speaker:creating little, like, trinkets and things like that. I just
Speaker:freaking love to create like, continue
Speaker:to create my home as, like, safe and expressive,
Speaker:and I'm just I'm watching, like, videos on
Speaker:gardening all the time. Like, I I have a million books on a million
Speaker:different things. And so
Speaker:I'm just I'm just a a home person.
Speaker:I love it. Yep. I love it.
Speaker:What does a simple moment of pure joy look like even
Speaker:though I think you kinda just described it? But I'm gonna I'm gonna ask the
Speaker:question anyway. A
Speaker:simple moment of pure joy for me is waking. This
Speaker:sounds maybe a masochistic, but I love
Speaker:waking up early in the morning, if I can.
Speaker:And it's, like, when the light is, like, peeking in through the blinds, and
Speaker:it's just it's, like, really there's, like, it's just calm. It's,
Speaker:like, quietness of the sunrise.
Speaker:And when I wake up, and there's it doesn't act in the
Speaker:often often, but if there's no noise
Speaker:happening or anything. And it just feels like,
Speaker:like, everything's got this, like, buzzing
Speaker:And it's it's just and the same thing happens late late at
Speaker:night. Late late at night, I I
Speaker:get artistic. 2 or 3 in the morning?
Speaker:Again, I'm crazy. 2 or 3 in the morning, but it's just just
Speaker:this quietness when nothing is expected.
Speaker:There's nothing happening, and I could just, like,
Speaker:do my narcissistic Yeah. And it's just this
Speaker:buzz of -- Yeah. -- quiet. And I think
Speaker:getting back into homeostasis as humans, it's not spitting back
Speaker:into those places so we can actually listen to what has to happen.
Speaker:You know? I yeah. Into that intuition.
Speaker:Mhmm. Mhmm. Makes me think of the quiet before the
Speaker:storm. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:What a beautiful conversation. Thank you,
Speaker:Kili. Thank you. You are I've said this before, but
Speaker:you are doing such beautiful work,
Speaker:especially with the theme of your podcast and with your
Speaker:passion and Just knowing you personally, I'm
Speaker:very lucky because, like
Speaker:I've said, like, the community that you have around you, should
Speaker:amplify you and should compliment you. And
Speaker:having met you and knowing you, it's just like it
Speaker:just affirms for me that my
Speaker:personal journey is, like, universe is
Speaker:celebrated. You know? Yes. Mhmm. Yes.
Speaker:Well, thank you so much, Keelie, for coming on today and talking with
Speaker:me, and I can't wait to have more conversations with you on
Speaker:here because I was just that was a good one.
Speaker:Yeah. I agree. Thank you so much, Candice. You're so
Speaker:welcome. Okay.
Speaker:Alright. Thank you so much for joining me today on moving out of trauma.
Speaker:If you like today's episode or you think it might be useful for someone else,
Speaker:please consider leaving us a review on your favorite podcast platform or
Speaker:on podchaser.com. And if you have any questions at all, I'd love
Speaker:to hear from you. You can find me over on instagram@solemission_emDR
Speaker:therapy. and over on Facebook at full mission EMDR
Speaker:therapy. Stay tuned for
Speaker:the calm state change place as well as the container exercise
Speaker:if you would like them. Remember, you didn't choose
Speaker:trauma, and you can choose your path towards healing.
Speaker:So I just want to invite you to find a comfortable
Speaker:position And to make sure that you're doing this exercise,
Speaker:somewhere safe, somewhere where you feel
Speaker:that you can take a few moments for yourself and
Speaker:definitely not while you're driving. So we're gonna start
Speaker:with the container activity, and then move into the
Speaker:calm steep place. So it's good to have
Speaker:a secure place where you can store memories and
Speaker:issues and and things that may need still some work.
Speaker:But also maybe you don't need to focus on them right at this
Speaker:point. So if you think about it almost like cleaning up
Speaker:the files on your desktop computer. So You can just
Speaker:feel a little bit less overwhelmed and focus a little bit more efficiently.
Speaker:Files are in a safe place. You can access them, the
Speaker:next time that you need to. So
Speaker:to start creating this container, I'd like you to imagine
Speaker:some kind of container or storage system
Speaker:that can securely hold as much as you need it to,
Speaker:for as long as you need it to, until you're ready to work
Speaker:on skin. So this container can
Speaker:be something you imagine. It could be something
Speaker:that's real. We just wanna make sure that
Speaker:this container has a lid or some type of
Speaker:secure closure. So that way, there's a way to take
Speaker:things out only when you want to.
Speaker:Now it's important to note we don't wanna put people in containers,
Speaker:but we can put memories and feelings and any kind
Speaker:of situations. So take a moment and
Speaker:really think about what that container might look like.
Speaker:Notice how the container feels.
Speaker:Notice how it feels that it's there for you.
Speaker:Should you choose to use it or when you choose to use it?
Speaker:And now, if you need to use that container, I want you to
Speaker:picture allowing whatever needs to go in there
Speaker:to take its place in there. This can
Speaker:happen slowly, This can happen quickly.
Speaker:However, it needs to happen. It's okay. Just
Speaker:allow The pieces, the memories, the
Speaker:thoughts, the feelings, the situation, whatever it is.
Speaker:It just slowly takes its place
Speaker:into that container.
Speaker:Now, once you feel like The things that need
Speaker:to be in the container are in there. I want you to close
Speaker:that container Some people like to
Speaker:imagine that there's a lock there or some kind
Speaker:of secured closure beyond just a a
Speaker:lid. So if you like, you can go ahead and lock that.
Speaker:And then just imagine it kinda taking its place back into
Speaker:wherever it needs to be. this could be a place that
Speaker:you think of in your home. This could be
Speaker:an imaginary place, wherever it is.
Speaker:Just someplace that we know that it's there when we need it.
Speaker:And now, we're gonna transition to that calm state
Speaker:change place. So this is a really
Speaker:good activity to develop a
Speaker:couple of ways to feel more calm and secure without
Speaker:really needing to rely on something or someone external than
Speaker:us. So one way we can do this to
Speaker:create this type of place that you can visit
Speaker:internally whenever you want, kind of like having
Speaker:an instant mini vacation on demand.
Speaker:So see if you can think of a place where you might feel a
Speaker:sense of calm or a sense of well-being.
Speaker:You can imagine a place that's similar to one that you've experienced,
Speaker:or heard about or read about.
Speaker:It's best not to use a specific memory with people, though, from
Speaker:your own history. So some people like to think of the
Speaker:beach or the woods,
Speaker:mountains, maybe some place they feel
Speaker:cozy.
Speaker:So just notice this place.
Speaker:Notice what you hear.
Speaker:Notice what you smell.
Speaker:Look around. What do you see?
Speaker:What do you feel? Maybe
Speaker:either temperature, the time of day,
Speaker:even down to how you feel in your body. as you imagine
Speaker:yourself in this place.
Speaker:Really just allowing yourself to soak up every single
Speaker:positive part of this place.
Speaker:The way it looks. the
Speaker:things that you hear.
Speaker:The things that you smell.
Speaker:the things that you might be able to touch, any textures or
Speaker:temperatures.
Speaker:and really encapsulating what you feel in your
Speaker:body as you're in this place
Speaker:as long as it feels good, and calm,
Speaker:and a place of centeredness.
Speaker:Now knowing that this place is always available to you
Speaker:because it is within you. It's a
Speaker:place of your very own making, a place
Speaker:that you can return anytime you need.
Speaker:Whether it's for quick deep breaths,
Speaker:returning the center, or maybe even winding
Speaker:down for the evening. This
Speaker:place is always here for you.
Speaker:So this recording is going to finish, but if you'd like,
Speaker:to stay in this place a while longer, you're certainly more than welcome to
Speaker:do so. And I hope that you'll join me next time