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Healing Through the Subconscious Mind with Keely Meta
Episode 611th July 2023 • Moving Out Of Trauma • Kandace Ledergerber
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In this episode of Moving Out of Trauma, I get to talk with Keely Meta (she/her) about the subconscious mind and how we can use it to our advantage in the healing process and how it can help be a guiding resource we can tap into at any time for free! We also explore the concept of life purpose, the impact of generational programming, and practical techniques to tap into our untapped potential. Discover how accessing altered states of consciousness, embracing mindfulness, and utilizing the body's natural ability to release trauma can transform your life. Tune in to find your path to healing through the subconscious mind.

Guest Bio

Keely Meta is a sacred ceremony facilitator, Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist, mind body wellness teacher, yoga instructor, meditation teacher, and mentor based out of Phoenix, Arizona. Keely is a passionate individual who believes in the power of the subconscious mind. Through her own scientific method of self-exploration, she has discovered hidden strengths and gained confidence in areas where she once doubted herself. This genuine work has become her life's passion, as she believes that everyone deserves access to the tool that is their own subconscious mind. As a provider, Keely strives to help her clients and those she encounters unlock different parts of themselves and integrate these newfound aspects into their lives. She sees the subconscious mind as a magnificent tool available to all humans, and it energizes her every single day to assist others in accessing this incredible resource. Keely offers her clients the guidance and environment to explore the subconscious mind safely and develop the tools that are unique to their own growth journey.

Timestamps

[02:16] - Intro

[03:45] - Getting to Know the Provider

[14:57] - Topic of the Week: Healing Through the Subconscious Mind

[51:19] - Providers Aren't Robots

[56:39] - Trauma Tip of the Week

[01:00:58] - Final Fast Five

[01:09:24] - Container and Calm State Change Exercises

Topics Covered in this Episode

  • Understanding and exploring life purpose
  • Buzzwords and concepts surrounding personal identity and self-definition.
  • Prioritizing safety in the healing process
  • The role of subconscious beliefs in shaping our lives
  • The impact of generational programming on core values and beliefs
  • Accessing different parts of the mind through practices like hypnosis and altered states of consciousness.
  • Techniques for reprogramming the mind and promoting healing.
  • The release and regulation of trauma and anxiety through physical movement
  • The importance of individualized mindfulness practices and finding what works best for each person.
  • The availability of resources and tools for healing within ourselves.

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https://keelymeta.com

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Kandace's Instagram

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Kandace's Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/soulmissionmentalhealthandyoga

Join Us Next Time

Join us in two weeks as I chat with my longtime friend Brittany Graniero, a fellow therapist, therapist supervisor and trauma healer as we dive into discussing how inner child work can look through the healing process. We will talk all about the transformative power of inner child work and its connections to EMDR therapy as well as how acknowledging and healing the emotions of your younger self can lead to profound personal growth and healing. 

Transcripts

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Welcome to Moving out of Trauma. A podcast made

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to support Trauma survivors with actionable steps and

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resources so they can start moving out of trauma and end

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the life that they're craving. I'm the host Candice Leader

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Gerber, EMDR therapist, yoga teacher, first

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time mom, and dog enthusiast. I am

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here in Phoenix Arizona, and I am so excited about

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today's episode. Before we dive into today's

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episode of moving out of trauma, I wanna give you a few

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reminders. The first is that if you

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wanna start practicing more mindfulness and incorporate more grounding

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skills in your daily life, but you've had some trouble getting

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started because of past trauma. I wanna offer

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you a free trauma informed beginners guide to

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mindfulness workbook and create this workbook

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with trauma in mind. You can get

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this free workbook as well as monthly updates about new

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content by heading over to sole mission dashemvrtherapy.com

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slash podcast. You can sign up for our newsletter there, and you

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will get this free workbook directly to your inbox. that you can

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download as many times as you like and get updates when I update it as

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well. Again, that link is full mission

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dash EMDR therapy. dotcom/podcast.

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And the second reminder I wanna give is at the end of this

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for cording, and the end of every episode for that matter, we will

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be giving you 2 resources that we often use

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in EMDR therapy. which are the container

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exercise as well as the state change place.

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So these exercises are visualization exercises

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that can help you transition from

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maybe a state of thinking about past trauma, awareness,

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learning something new into a more calm,

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more centered way of being so you can go on throughout

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your day. I hope these resources help, and I would

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love to know your thoughts. Alright. Let's dive into today's

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episode. Alright. So today,

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I'm moving out of trauma. We have Kili Mehta, who is

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a sacred ceremony facilitator. a

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certified clinical hypnotherapist, a mind

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body wellness teacher, a yoga instructor, a meditation teacher,

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and mentor based out of Phoenix, Arizona.

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Kiely offers her clients the guidance and environment

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to explore the subconscious mind safely while developing the

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tools that are unique to their own growth journey.

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You can find keely@keelymeta.com instagramat

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Kilimeta XO, and hosting the

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MetaPerch podcast on all podcasting platforms.

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And I am so excited to be able to talk to Kili today.

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Kili is a friend that I've had

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the Great pleasure of getting to know over the past couple of

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months through our yoga studio, and I'm just so

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excited to dive into this conversation with her.

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Yeah. Hello. Hi. I'm a super excited

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speaker. Thank you, Candice. Yes. You're so welcome. I'm

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so happy that you're able to come on and and talk about

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some self acceptance pieces and just all the all the different

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things that make you passionate as a

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provider as a helper because you have such a a

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beautiful, wonderful soul. So I'm so excited to share that with others. Well,

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thank you. You're welcome. Thank

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you. Alright. So for this first portion

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of the show. It's, you know, getting to know you as a

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provider. And I will say this in every

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episode until I out who said it, but there

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is a quote that I heard well, actually, that I read that

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said knowing a person is like music. What attracts

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us to them is their melody, and as we get to know them, we learn

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their lyrics. And I just really love

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that because I think that it kinda highlights the complexities

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of who we are as people and who's who we are as

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providers, and I I think that kinda just I don't know.

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There's some beautiful symmetry there. So based off that wonderful

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quote, I have a couple of questions for you to

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start. if that sounds like a good place to jump off. Let's play.

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Cool. So to start, why are you

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so passionate about this work? I

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see. All of us have

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our conscious minds that we

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think that we operate kind of every function of

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facet of our lives with, but, really, we have

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90% of what operates

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us under this surface. And

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my passion comes from I would say

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a scientific method of my own experiences.

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Yeah. unraveling

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and unveiling pieces of myself,

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strengths in myself, confidence when I never felt like I could

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have had confidence in particular areas shows me that this

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work is sincere. It is real.

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And I just can't imagine

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living life without it. So as a provider,

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I couldn't imagine my clients or people that I see not

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having access to the tool that is their subconscious mind. So

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That's what literally gets me up every single day is to

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help someone access a different part of them, integrate a different part of

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them. It just is so

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it is such a magnificent tool that is not unique to me or it's

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not unique to you. It's something that us as humans have the

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ability to do. And I just I

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it just makes me so excited.

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Yeah. I what you just said there of, like, us as humans,

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like, everyone has this ability to, like, tap into

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it. And it just made me think of, like, how how much

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of our I'm sure we'll get to this, but how much of our brain

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and our our own wisdom and and just ourselves that

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we don't regularly tap into.

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For a lot of reasons, I'm sure. But, you know, for me, at least the

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first thing that comes up is, like, the busyness of our culture in our

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lives and, like, taking dedicated time and, like,

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very purposeful time to, like, connect

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to ourselves on that deeper level.

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Yeah. The race

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of how we kind of fix this every day. I mean, it's gonna sound like

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a cliche, and I'm gonna reverberate everything that we see on all of these.

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Like, cliche Instagram posts, but we

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are kind of the way that we operate in the current society

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is counterintuitive to our healing

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processes of our body. So it's literally, like,

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what our body requires is rest relaxation. It requires the

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activation of a parasympathetic nervous system. And

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being inundated constantly and being a consumer constantly and

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being happen to go into the next, you know

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okay. Well, you have a certain amount of grieving period --

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Yeah. -- or you have a certain amount of time that you can take care

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of it and then on to the next thing. Right? Like -- Mhmm. -- that's

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counterproductive to integrating, which is a huge part of,

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I'm sure, you talk about on your podcast with PTSD is a huge

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part of accepting ourselves. It's a huge part of

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making decisions. And, also, like, the exam comes back to

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like, how are we supposed to heal? Well,

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the society doesn't really help for that. And if it does -- No. -- it's

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like, it's like a commodity or it's it's an interesting thing. You know? So

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it's it's sexy no matter what. You know? Mhmm.

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Mhmm. Yeah. Absolutely.

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How does your personality show up in the room with the people that you work

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with? I would say this

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is probably my this is my favorite

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part. My personality comes through in

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in everything that I do. And I don't think there isn't a

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particular place or space that it doesn't because

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if I'm to teach people to walk Mhmm. In there,

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I will unique this. There is no way that I'm

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going to show up less than that. So I joke,

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I play, I make fun of myself. I'm

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honest about where I'm at with certain things

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without divulging a little too much information.

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I share the pieces of myself that I think will

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allow for a little bit of self acceptance in my client's lines. Right?

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Like, maybe they're struggling with something, and I can share, like,

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hey. There's been a journey. That's been a one one of my major less

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So that's been some you know, we just went through them. This is a tool

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that helped me move through it. Like,

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I personally have a very hard time with the

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kind of guru mentality.

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of the world right now, especially in the mind body

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wellness field that separates

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a practitioner. I mean, to a certain extent, of course. We have to

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separate things to a certain extent, but

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separates the humanity of a practitioner with their

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clients. Mhmm. Kinda like puts them into a box, like, a

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way, like okay. Yeah. I'm all 4. I'm all Yeah.

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Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I talk about boxes

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surprisingly a lot so far on this show. I

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always knew that it was a passion of mine, but it has come out a

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lot as to you know, I don't I don't

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enjoy us putting anyone into boxes.

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But, you know, at least in my own trading, like, as a therapist,

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it was like, you know, is the way you sit. This is the way you

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speak. This is what you do. So maybe not necessarily like a

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pedestal, but just very, like, this is your therapist box. like,

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this is what you are as a therapist and to break out of

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that and kind of figure, like, how how do I become myself

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right while you know, sitting with this client who's being extremely

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vulnerable with me and still have some of

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that like you shared that those pieces of self

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disclosure or whatever the case looks like to have

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have that space too. Yeah. I think it's okay

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for us to be able to relate on a

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human level because that allows them

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too, you know, that they are also multifaceted. And they can be themselves

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while also being professional. They can be themselves while also

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setting boundaries with mother-in-law, you know -- Yes. -- those types of things.

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Absolutely. Yes. What is

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the top thing you wish everyone knew

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about the world of work that you do. If you wanna approach this as a

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hypnotherapist or mind body wellness or, I don't know, any of

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the any and all of the things.

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The major thing that I think we all have to

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understand is well, maybe it's a a

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couple proud thing here. But first, we're

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not islands. We are humans that need to be involved

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in the lives of other humans. Again,

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society in this society in the west, specifically

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is very centered around the individual, which there's nothing wrong

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with. Like, be at boss Bosco. you know,

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be that person. -- curse. That's okay. Okay. Be a message.

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Be, you know, be strong and and take action on

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your passions. However, we heal through

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community. So a lot of us don't come from communities

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or families or practices or backgrounds or whatever,

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where the others or we are encouraged

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to healed with one another, be seen by one another.

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And we can do all of the work in the world and not

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have perspective enough

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to actually implement what it is that

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we're doing. And sometimes just

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being seen or seeing someone else and accepting them

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can be such a monumental part of your healing journey.

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And so while you're doing all of this therapy and all

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of this work, if you don't have a community that you feel safe and up

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with, your body to the core like, next

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to your home and shelter isn't gonna feel satisfied.

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Mhmm. Yeah. Absolutely. This actually is a

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theme that came up in one of the previous episodes

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about writing circles for trauma survivors and

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just the the very act of

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being able to verbally share you know, I mean, I

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know this in in individual therapy, but this is on a

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larger scale, but to share your story

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and to feel seen and feel heard and feel acknowledged in

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a way that you know, typically by and large when trauma survivors

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share their story, they're ashamed in a lot of ways

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by our society. And so when we're able to be at a

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community that feels safe when we're able to have our story be

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heard and be seen and feel good about it and

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feel safe. It's monumental for the healing

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process. Yeah. I completely agree.

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Yeah. Okay.

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Yeah. So as we are opening up this wonderful

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conversation and kind of diving into this.

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And what I'm curious what you feel drawn to in this next piece

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and, like, where you wanna I mean, because we kinda hit on the community piece

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and, you know, we're talking about healing. And and so I'm

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wondering where where you feel like we we wanna go next

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with this conversation? I wanna talk about the subconscious

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mind. Let's do it. I I find

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so much benefit. Obviously, we we we we scratched the

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surface, which is a beautiful metaphor for the

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subconscious mind. and how accessible

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it is because it is. It truly is. Mhmm. All this have 10%

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of our our logical thinking

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robotic actions,

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whatever, existing kind of,

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like, on the surface of who we are. And then

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what happens is what's really running the show, the little,

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like, minions inside, are all of your actual belief

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systems. All of, you know, even,

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like, cultural, racial,

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geographical, Whatever.

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Location based influences

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yeah. Trauma based influences even. that are actually

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running how we see ourselves, how we believe in ourselves.

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all of the functioning that's way, way deeper down when you

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start uncovering these pieces of yourself, you start to realize, oh,

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wait. Maybe I don't feel lovable. Maybe maybe I self

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sabotage because I I don't wanna see success. Maybe I grew up in

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poverty And even though I have

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plenty of abundance financially, I still feel worried that it's all gonna go

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away. All those pieces of ourselves are

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the 90% -- Mhmm. -- how we respond and

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how we react and and what's really driving our decisions,

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which is part of the reason why logical thinking is kind of

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silly because there's just so much more driving -- Mhmm.

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-- the machine. You know? Yeah. It

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reminds me of that iceberg metaphor of, like, so much

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of what is there is beneath the surface that

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you can't see. But that doesn't stop from being there.

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Right? It still exists. Yeah. Yeah.

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Definitely. You know,

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as I personally as I started doing a lot of

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I was like, I think I was isolated when I was younger, maybe, like,

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19, 20, kinda, like, removed myself from the friends

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that I had had and moved away. And they started doing a

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lot of, like, introspective work and doing, like, all

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these books on, like, how

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to access your intuition and doing, like,

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these kind of, like, guided meditations and things like

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that. That nature kinda just to sense what the subconscious

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mind felt like. And I put myself,

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like I said, through kind of like a scientific method type of situation

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where I would kind of see what

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was actually, like, made sense for me. or

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if it was just, like, fleeting passing thoughts or whatever. And as I kind of

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began to refine my experiences, I found

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that There was so much healing from my own trauma, from my

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own experiences with any even me

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practicing mindfulness techniques by myself.

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You know? We see, like, this whole world of, like, you

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know, retreat centers that cost 1000 and 1000 of dollars.

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and therapists that maybe get accessible to other people. And

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all these things that have pretty hefty price tags on for some

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people. Mhmm. And we have to understand that the tools are also very accessible

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within us. Mhmm. Yeah. You know,

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I am one, obviously, to facilitate a safe

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space. But if we can pace ourselves and we can just listen

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to the voice that's inside of us, they just sit present. A

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lot of that information is revealed to us in a safe way

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because we're not pushing ourselves, so we're not setting unrealistic

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expectations for healing and then moving forward in in the course

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of an hour, you know, those type of things. Yeah.

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Absolutely. because you're the ones that you're the one that is setting the

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limit. You're the one that's deciding, okay. This

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is this is my goal. Oh, wait. That was too much. Like, let me

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dial back. You you you know what's going on in your own

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mind to be able to to navigate it a little bit

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easier. There's not another person to to kind of

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further complicate the process for a lack of better words.

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And yes. And a lot of us

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need to feel comfortable in something before we trust someone else,

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especially if we if we have issues with with trust

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or issues, you know, handing over a little bit of the reins.

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Mhmm. And so going into going to see, like, a

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practitioner like you or like myself is

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really beneficial because we can get you to we can assist you to

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get deeper to really feel like

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giving you a kind of holistic experience while

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diving deeper, but if you could have the fundamental

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ins and, like, the understanding of the ins and outs of how you

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function, I mean, you're gonna get there.

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Yeah. So much faster. And so much with so much less distrust

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and resistance. because you can trust yourself. You're like, oh, okay. I know when my

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body is telling you. I know when my body is is

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showing up and and you know, I have some resistance. Okay. Well,

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I know a little bit of of, like, really helps me a little bit. Our

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visualizing my safe space helps me helps me a little bit. Yeah. And I can

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implement those tools. That was cost nothing. Yeah.

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Yeah. It's like starting your own it's starting your

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healing journey before seeking out a professional. So, like,

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really seeing, okay, what what do I need to

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feel? You know? Like, I'm on solid ground where I'm on in in

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a safe space. before I seek out another person

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to invite into that space. Mhmm. Humans

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are humans. I mean, Therabus are

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humans. Your doctors are humans, so it's really important

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to have a to have some navigation, if possible. If

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it accessible. And I'm saying this as a blanket statement. We could probably

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talk about all the little fine prints that kind of

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separate you know, the the categories of this.

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But using your own internal navigation,

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do discern if particular therapist or a particular

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modality works for you. We talked about that

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on my podcast. It's it's so extremely important

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Because then you can go in and you can go in with trust, and you

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can feel very comfortable. And I

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found that trust trust is, like, such a small word with

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such a gut wrench and punch sometimes.

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trust is one of those things that,

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in my opinion, from my perspective as a hypnotherapist,

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allows us to access all parts of ourselves.

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So if we can start to really flirt

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with pick like, pick what is this?

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Like, an ice pick thing? Right? Like, hitting away yeah. Right? Like,

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hitting away at the ice Yeah. -- old piece by little piece,

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then -- Mhmm. -- you know, eventually, something's going

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through. Yeah. chipping away. Yeah. That's the 1.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I well and I still

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I keep coming back to this feeling of, like, that

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that trust in yourself that listening to your

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intuition, listening to your own inner wisdom, and

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feeling like you have a starting place with

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that. Like, you you can know what it feels like or know what it

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sounds like she or no, you know, just I don't it's

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I don't know. For me, it's a very visceral feeling, so I'm, like, shaking my

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shoulders, but just just knowing, like, where it's at free, where it

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resides, you then know when you're having a conversation with

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someone about a potential you know, healing modality to know, like,

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to lean in, like, to feel like, oh, yes. Like, this is what I need.

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Like, I imagine that is your subconscious playing out because your intuition that

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you're listening to. Is that that kinda what I'm picking

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up? Yes. And something that you mentioned that I'm not sure that

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you picked up on, or or maybe you're not sure

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of. You mentioned that you kinda, like for those

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that are listening, She's kinda, like, bobbing her shoulders or whatever, talking about

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how she she experiences kind of her intuition viscerally, which

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is one of the major parts of hypnosis and hypnotherapy in

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particular because someone like myself is trained

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to Notice what particular sense

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like, sense of the body you respond to.

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It's coming from your language in. So if you're a kinesthetic learner,

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maybe those guided meditations on YouTube aren't gonna work for you.

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Mhmm. Because everything is very visually centered. Right? So maybe you can't

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visualize it. Maybe you have a hard time. You're like, I can't meditate. You know?

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One of those people in my clients are like, I can't meditate. I was like,

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okay. wanna you wanna bet, but

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it's because you may be more kinesthetic in nature. So

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types of meditations or types of

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mindfulness practices maybe going on a walk and thinking. Right?

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Getting your body moving, yoga, kickboxing,

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you know, things that are more active in nature or have

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maybe even luxurious in nature. Right? Like, maybe you need to,

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like, Your body needs to be told, like, chill,

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mout. Go get a massage. Chill out. Go take a

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bath. Maybe that's where your meditative space is or

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your mindful space. Maybe that's where the place you go

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to when you want to really, really align,

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get in touch with your body, activate the parasympathetic nervous system. The same thing

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goes with the other senses. So if you're visually if you're a visual

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learner, practice art. Right?

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Like, watch the, like, they have, like,

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these beautiful, like, montages of -- Yeah. -- that whole things

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and allow your mind to kind of decompress that way. If

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you're auditory, listen to really positive intentional music. I know

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people that cannot calm down

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cannot chill out unless they have headphones on, and they're listening to

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something that makes them feel

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The actives mhmm. Yeah. It brings them down.

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So know that mindfulness is

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also a century experience. So, you

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know, if something doesn't work, if you feel really pulled visually or or

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auditorially or even There's this different

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segment, which is auditory digital, which is its own thing. But if

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you feel pulled to one of those three senses, I would encourage

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you even in your just your downtime or just flirt with the idea that maybe,

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like, I didn't access, you know, a content mindful

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space or the alpha brainwaves or whatever by this, but maybe

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I'll try this because the the journey is individual.

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It so is. Yeah. So is

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and I wanna kinda bounce off that for a second and ensure this

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little nugget that I heard as

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when we experience a trigger, like,

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when the trigger is, like, the most of this role. So when

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it really is bother some thinking about what 5

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senses that taps into. So if it's an

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auditory if it's a physical, if it's whatever that piece

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is. And then knowing that on the flip side of that,

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the kind of, like, that's where you're

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that's where it's gonna be the strongest for you to key into that for mindfulness.

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So if it's auditory, like, listening to that track, if it's

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physical, like, taking the the hot shower with, like, the you

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know, whatever, like, the sensory components. So figuring out,

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like, whatever that trigger is that's the most bothersome or the most

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upsetting knowing that that's tied to

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the flipside of a potential healing point. Yeah.

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Yeah. Our bodies have the ability

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to process all this information that we're receiving every

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day, kinda swing our swing our navigation.

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But Arvadi's also have the intelligence to

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release the compress. We have all of the tools within us

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And those around us, I'm not saying we are again, we're not -- Mhmm. --

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islands, but maybe you have something and a piece

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of wisdom that I don't know. something that I can implement my daily life,

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and that's also, again, why connecting with others and talking

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and sharing can be so beneficial.

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Mhmm. Yeah. Agreed. Well, and something you said

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about, you know, we're not islands and, like, making

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this accessible not just within, like, ourselves, but also, like, within

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a community piece. One other question. So

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I feel like we kind of been have been dancing around, but I wanna say

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it explicitly. So, you know, anyone who listening can

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also hear that. But is is this

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ability to access this part of ourselves accessible to every

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single person? Or do you have to do something specific? Is

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there a a particular dance or a

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a course or whatever. You know? What what do you what does it

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take Hell no. It's

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accessible all the time for everyone.

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And I I would argue to say,

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I'm not arguing. All of us have trauma in some way, shape, or form. All

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of us have something that has

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hit us to the core as stuck to the part of our

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process. has taken a piece away from us, and

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all of it

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is accessible. And it doesn't have to be a really

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visceral experience. It can just be going out

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and going to yoga class and just you know, sitting in Shavasana and

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crying. Mhmm. I'm gonna be honest with you,

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I all the best yoga classes you're gonna you're gonna sit and tear up a

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little bit or something. Like, you're you're body and your mind are working

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together or whatever to process and release.

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Maybe it's just going out to a community event. Maybe

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it's joining an online forum for people that like art. Maybe it

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is You know, it doesn't have to be this like, I did

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Ayahuasca, and I came up the other side. And, you know, if you don't feel

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comfortable or you don't think it's accessible in that space, you don't have to dive

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back deep. But as you are growing and

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you're kind of looking in the mirror of of what you may need,

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sometimes those fear based places

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are the places that you kinda physically even need to go

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to an honor to access deeper

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parts deeper parts of who you are.

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Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And part of what I

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heard you almost say is, like, the curiosity

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behind it, like, approaching it. And

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in my work with trauma survivors, I feel like

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curiosity can be Curiosity and vulnerability can be

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like 4 letter 4 letter words. Like, they are not things that

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we approach with kindness and and and excitement and happiness a lot of the

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times. And so I think just even

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finding, like, the 2% of curiosity or the

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2% of vulnerability, the 2% of like, okay.

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This is the wiggle room that I can move in today. Right? And this is

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the little bit that I can see, you know, what this feels like for

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me or, you know, whatever to kind of prove to

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yourself, like, an experiment like what you talked about of,

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oh, hey. Like, it's okay. Right? Like, Actually, that

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was kind of fun. Oh, wow. I haven't felt that before. And I

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actually I think that that felt really good, like, to my nervous system, to my

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myself, or whatever. to then go for 5%

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or whatever the case is until it does feel,

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you know, like you're in a good space and feel like it's

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something that feels good for you individually. because like you said, it's such

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an individual process of a individual journey

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for sure. Mhmm. I'm going

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to share something, and I'm sure she'd be totally fine with it. I

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was At a session with a client yesterday, no details obviously.

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But I created a little chart for her. she was like, I really

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wanna, like, tap into my life purpose. And intuitively,

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I was like, your life purpose is ever

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changing. Right? Your life purpose is

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what fuels your passion and what fuels your happiness.

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Right? So oftentimes, we get we

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get jumbled by buzzwords, and we get jumbled by

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concepts. And we get jumbled by, you know, this short and

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sweet little Instagram post that -- Mhmm. -- someone else posted, and we think that

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we have to define ourselves buy back in its entirety.

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And we're trying to find a solution between thing a

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and thing b. And I was like, what what

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is your what makes you feel passionate? And what makes you feel

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like you would feel happy doing that. Mhmm. Well, there's a little

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bit of unsure. You know, there's there's always gonna be a little bit of unsure

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energy behind what feels exciting. and passionate, but

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this passionate is going to a coffee shop around today and gaining a

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little bit of independence and gaining a little bit of solitude and

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not having to work around everyone else's

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schedule. Maybe your medicine is back today. Right? Yeah. It's

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always gonna feel a little bit scary, but at least you know you're safe in

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that place rather than again going to the deep end of healing

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and Mhmm. Doing something that means a

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practitioner. If that makes sense? Yeah. And that that

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piece of listening to ourselves first, to

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to navigate to find that inner wisdom before, you know,

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diving into, like, okay. Like, this is what I'm I'm doing. Before I

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even start the journey, I'm going to to go I don't

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know. You said the deep end, and that's why it keeps coming back to my

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brain of you know, diving off the the diving

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board into the deep end of this healing process. Like, it's

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it's taking those baby steps. Yeah. Baby's such a

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huge I don't okay. So I'm gonna tell you, I'm

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a yoga instructor, and I don't know how mine's I've

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been like, I don't wanna go to the studio because I don't know anyone. You

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know what I'm saying that is? You know how crazy that is? That is my

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environment. I trade in that environment. I've been to diff I I've worked in different

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studios. I I work in a studio now, like, It's so

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silly, but my thing has always been, okay, my medicine is

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I go out and I need to be seen without other

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people. I need to, like, have solitude by myself, and that's my medicine.

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Yeah. Yeah. That makes a lot

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of sense. It's the question I wanna make sure we hit

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on. What are you able to find

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in the subconscious mind that is different from the conscious mind?

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shoot. K. The main thing

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that's in the subconscious mind that I have a lot of interest in

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is belief systems and fears.

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Believe systems we've had, it's okay. It's like -- Can hear

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him. Poor little guy. He just wants to come hang out.

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And you know, actually, that's really funny that you say that because

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that is what's in the subconscious mind. Also, past

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versions of ourselves that are are crying and kicking and

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screaming and want their own shit

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And, you know, I didn't get this when I was I didn't get my cell

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phone when I was eleven years old. I got it when I was fourteen years

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old, and and I deserved that. you know, those kinds of things that

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-- Yeah. -- that all of that is there. So it's it's funny how

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like, oh, some adults act like children or some, you know,

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things of that nature is because we actually have -- Yeah. --

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those memories and those thoughts within us that are

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really like I said, they're running the show. Mhmm. So

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these belief systems can look like I am

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unlovable. I am not worthy of

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attention or or love or or

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security or a child. Like, there's so many different

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things that we don't think that we deserve. We don't deserve to be

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heard. We don't deserve to be You know, we

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have all of our anger, defense mechanisms, and all of those things in those

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places. And then, also, it's a big

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circle, but it's it's all of the fears that we have. So if

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we have all of these on the con in the conscious mind where we're

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like, okay. I really wanna get this new job, and the new

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job has is a particular

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amount more than you may currently a lot of times, we'll stop

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sabotage, and we don't think that we're worth that money. We don't think -- --

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worthiness. Yeah. All of all of those

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impostor syndrome. All of those things exist there. And I think

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it's beautiful that there's so much mental

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health awareness. There's so much more mindfulness work and practitioners

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in these spaces to make some of these things a little bit more

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in the light rather than even, like, 20 years ago.

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Oh my god. 30 years ago, Hell, we would

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never be talking about this. Nope. Your your parents or my parents

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are definitely your grandparents generations. Oh, yeah.

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No. Jump it down. But that is the

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culture that is the culture of how they were raised. They

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don't know. have the idea

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that emotional intelligence is even a thing. A lot of them don't even think it's

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a relevant part of our everyday lives. Right? So they project

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and they you know, we could get into that all day long.

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But notice how we're just as you and I as

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millennials are just starting to kind of like, okay. Like, I'd

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like to help. And how do I help? You know? Whereas, like, generation

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underneath us. They're way more open about their mental health issues.

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They're way more accepting of other people to mental

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health issues. They're you know, and it's just gonna get

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unfortunately, we're, like, a little bit of the grandparents of, like, the

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modern generation where we're, like, I have

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anxiety and depression. It's like anxiety and depression has

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existed since time -- Oh, yeah. -- existed. As soon as we put

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pressures on humans, as soon as we created, like, societal

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structures of money and hierarchy and

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certain classes, you know, that was it. That was it.

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You know? Yeah. So all of the

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Even, like, generational, comma, those kinds of things,

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what our core values are So what where we

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actually stand, and that could be influenced by mom or dad. So it's very

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interesting when you start to peel back the layers.

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Maybe consciously, you're like, I'm a very you know, I'm all about morals and

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ethics, and then, you know, mom or dad have these

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deceiving qualities about them. and then kind of program a little

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bit. Not program. I don't wanna say it, like, they're, like, you know,

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whatever. Not puppeteering. anything. But -- No. Not essentially,

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but -- Yeah. -- you know, Ultra is Holcher. Right? Like -- Yeah. --

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generates generational connection is is very strong.

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Yeah. We learn from what we know, from what we see. And so

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patterns and behaviors come from somewhere. Right?

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Whether it's a mom or a dad or a grandparent

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or whoever you were around to see whatever

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behaviors or things, good or bad, you know, we learn

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from what we know. We take that in. Mhmm. We take that

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information in. Yeah. And some of

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it's even genetic, which is crazy. Some of it is absolutely

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genetic. So it's very interesting. Mhmm. When you start to do

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work, you have the tools to

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start differentiating where the influences are.

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Right? Yeah. without intellectualizing our process

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too much because we wanna be able to process and we wanna be able

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to feel -- Yeah. -- we start to understand

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Okay. This has come from mom's side. This has come from dad's side. This has

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come from my teenage years where I

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had more trauma than other, you know, segments of my

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life. Does this come from my niche,

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Rubel? Like, does this, you know, where does this come from? Maybe

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I can accept and forgive myself for that.

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And I can use my tools to

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now shape what is going to be my

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future with that knowledge. Yeah. You know, by my own actions are

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how I operate in the world. Or when that trigger comes up,

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it gave me the anger that jealousy or that thing,

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I can tell you to just gently rework it through my tools and

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tell, eventually, your body believes that it is no longer

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that. Yeah. It's

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it's I mean, not to to stay on that that

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the first word that popped in my head is to reprogram. like, you know, too

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literally reprogrammed, and that sounds a little

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cold for for what it really is because it's

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not it's not cold. It's not calculated

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in any capacity. It's it's actually a lot of really

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hard freaking work. Like, you know, to every time something

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comes up or every time that trigger comes up to

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bend, to shift, and to mold.

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an opposite of the reprogramming word that popped up in my

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brain. I was seeing, like, Almost like a

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a clump of clay that's kind of, like, hardened over time. Right? You kinda, like,

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rewet and, like, just rework and, like, just slowly start to get

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it to mold in the in the direction that you're needing, but it still

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requires, like, the the water a little bit at it, you know, whatever.

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and the work. And that's what you're doing is this this thing

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has already set. It's been its own

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piece, and now you're you're starting to rework it and to mold

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it in a different direction, and it's hard.

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I I love that analogy. I'm, like, writing notes down, and I had to write

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down Clay, and I had to write down. So if he's listening because I was

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resonating so much, You know, this kind

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of work. And I'm gonna speak just on behalf of hypnosis

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and specifically, like altered states of consciousness

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type, like, even, like, breath work, things like that where you access, you kind

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of shift into a different part of yourself.

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These things strongly activate the prefund

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prefrontal cortex. Yeah. These are the decision making parts of your

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body. So you're actually reprogramming your

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ability to to to process.

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Yeah. So it is it it and it is something that I

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have seen personally among different practices

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and belief systems and cultures and things like that that

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are synonymous with healing is accessing

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these parts of your mind that

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are able to change, are willing to change. Right? Like,

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invoking the theta brain state, right, the

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brain waves that up behind, that are right before when you go

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to bed, and you are the most susceptible to suggestion right there.

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If you know that piece of information,

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you can listen to positive music before

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bed. You can just

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even to, like, reprogram the mind before bed. Right?

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You can do intentional work or journaling

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before bed. You can do some breath work before bed. and

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know that your body is the most susceptible -- Mhmm. -- right before

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you hit your pillow or right when you hit your pillow

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right before you go to bed. Yeah. And knowing that the

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brain can work hand in hand with the work that

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we're doing because, truly, it does.

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Mhmm. Yeah. Our brains are such powerful things.

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Such such yeah. It makes me think of, you know, what we

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talked about earlier, just like the the untapped potential

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that is there. You know, it's it's so

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so much. So big, and we're just

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barely learning we're barely, again, scratching the surface and understanding of,

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like, what what does this all mean? And what can we do

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differently? And how can we How can we tap into that potential?

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And I really love that, you know, that it is within us

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and that, you know, as you shared, like, that we can

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we can tap into that at any time because it is within a part of

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ourselves instead of, like, oh, okay. I have to I have to go

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and get this degree or I have to go and see this person. Like,

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obviously, there there's a time and a place for those things, and

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the healing journey starts within us and and where

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we are and tapping into who we are and what we need.

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Mhmm. So powerful. Yeah. There's nothing.

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I'm one for certifications. I'm one for trainings. I'm one

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for getting involved. I'm a forever for ever

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student and -- Mhmm.

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-- an educational background does

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not does not isolate

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intelligence, does not mean that someone has

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more than the next person, and it doesn't quantify

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someone's -- Yeah. -- purpose.

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Yeah. The education, if that's what you feel pulled

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to or towards or whatever,

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but humans were doing a long time before that. Oh, yeah.

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Absolutely. The idea of being able to

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sit with ourselves as the teacher and to be able

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to, again, that curiosity leaning into

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to what we need and to learn learn from ourselves

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and from our own wisdom rather than just like this external

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compass that's always guiding us, and I think about what you said about the

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Instagram posts and and all of those pieces of we have

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so much external stuff coming in constantly, but to really

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tune in to ourselves

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and have us, you know, our our heart mind

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soul body, you know, whatever everything. be the teacher

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is is such valuable wisdom.

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Such such gold, gold nuggets. I see. It's just

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you know, it's all in there. And I'm just gonna

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add one little thing about -- Yes. -- just talking about with curiosity.

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Curiosity is the body's way of reprogramming

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belief systems that don't work for us. Yeah.

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So curiosity is a good thing. It is a sign

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that you're able to move forward. Yes. You

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have little interest. You have a little -- Mhmm. -- study

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something new or whatever. Your body's asking for new patterns. Yeah.

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We'll start Yeah. Exactly. The reason why we don't feel comfortable

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with those types of things is maybe it's, again, all of

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our influence, family, friends, or otherwise culture, whatever, may have

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not been used to that particular type of information.

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Mhmm. So it feels foreign. And our body is

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responding like it's a it's a threat -- Yeah. -- because it

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does. That's

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so valuable. I'm so glad you said that. So,

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Kiely, this conversation has been so

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wonderful. And like I said, I I feel

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like we could go and talk about this this type of

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topic and these types of pieces for a long time.

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But before we shift gears and take a break, I wanna just check-in with you

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and see if there's any other pieces that you wanna share related to

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today's episode, to today's topic, and what we have been

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diving into so far? Just

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encouragement. I'm just so excited for

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whoever is listening to

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this episode or your podcast in general. that is

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such a positive shift in your life, and

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positive resources allows you to

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grow. And so keep it up, baby. Keep it

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up. That's it. I love that.

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Okay. with those wonderful words, we are going to take a

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quick break so I can share a few resources, and then we will come back

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go to sole mission dashemdrtherapy.com/contact.

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which will be in the show notes. Alright. Let's get back to today's

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episode. Alright. We

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are back with Kili Mehta. for the last bit

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of our show, and this part of the show is

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talking about how providers are not robots. And I feel like we've touched on this

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many times throughout today's episode. But in this small

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section of the show, we just talk about examples of our humanness,

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and This was kind of born out

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of this idea that I think a lot of the times when people first

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come to see a provider of any kind, it's It can be a

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little daunting, a little intimidating because we're seeing them kind of

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in this this box. And, you know, to

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kind of break out of that box and break out of that mold and to

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show that we are, in fact, humans, yeah, to share a

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little bit of our our humanness we don't live in a bubble,

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and we are, in fact, real live people.

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Yeah.

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For me, it always goes back to you in my own practice and in my

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own experiences. We all have families.

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We don't have projections and and things

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like that out of that nature.

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expectations and judgments and things like that. And

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one of the most powerful things and most difficult

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things that I have gone through and people similar

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to me have been through is

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the the opportunity

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to I wouldn't say it's an opportunity,

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the work. to understand your loved

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ones, and how do I put

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this?

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and not hold expectation for them to

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change.

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we all have it, and it can be really difficult when you start

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to sincerely grow. Not grow conceptually, but

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sincerely, grow and change your habits and change

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what makes you tick. And naturally,

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those that have always been closest to you especially if

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there's, like, codependent connections are going to have some sort of

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identity in you. Mhmm.

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that reflects them. So when you start to shift or you start to

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change for the betterment of you, even if it's

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worth no expectation that anyone else is gonna shift or change with

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you. Their

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identity is is no longer what they

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hadn't thought it was. Yeah. So this is a natural part of anyone's

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situation as they grow and progress

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And most of the time now some of us are very lucky,

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and some of us have are are really gifted with amazing

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family members that are empathetic.

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But sometimes, there's just no capacity

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at that moment in time. for family

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members to understand or to get why you're

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doing what you're doing or get why you press this, what you practice, or

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believe how you believe, or like how you live. And for

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me, in my humanness, this is always my medicine.

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And I think that's probably why my clients are

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similar to me because they have just,

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like, extending your arm out in a community circle,

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they know that there is possibly a piece of information that I

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can provide for them or a little bit of perspective

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as I've gone through this journey and I've gone through this

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journey continuously. Yeah. And that is my new

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business. Yeah.

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Yeah. Almost kind of, like, showing up a little bit as

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a a mirror for our our people that we work with

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and and not just for their own reflection that they're

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proceeding, right, but that you know, we we see parts of ourselves

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in there too and to really

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oh, I come back to this feeling of, like, to just just viscerally

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understand, like, you know, hey. Like, it's it's

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okay. You're not alone. And to be able to share

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either nuggets of wisdom or just just pieces

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as as a provider as a human

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to kinda come alongside them in that journey so that they they

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aren't alone. We're not you and

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I, people like us or providers or what have you.

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We're not robots, but really not.

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And And

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if you find someone that you feel like connects to you

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on a real empathetic level,

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What's gonna happen is their their

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experience or life experience and their tools are going to be

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hopefully given to you. Yeah.

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Yeah. And

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like I said, y'all have families, and y'all have influences in

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some way, shape, or form. And so -- Yeah. So

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it's okay to share that. Yeah. Absolutely.

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If you had one tip that you wish

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everyone on earth would know about

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whether it's self regulation, it's it's some kind of trauma

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piece, the world of

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healing as you work through it. what do you wish

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that everyone would know?

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There's something that our bodies can do in

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terms of regulation. And you

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can see it in, like, tremor release therapy

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things of that nature, where if we are

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feeling overwhelmed or anxious and we're feeling like

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trauma is impacting us. We have the ability

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to actually start to shake up some of

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that travel within the body. So you

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can see this in videos with animals who have

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been through really and you can Google it. You can let her I think there's,

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like, several videos online, but I know one particular that has a lot of

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views on YouTube, and it's, like, It's something about, like,

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a Gazelle getting caught by a

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lion in the Savannah or wherever.

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Literally got caught by line and played dead. Mhmm.

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And this lion had its bricks, I believe, on its on its

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neck. And for all intents and purposes, if you would have started

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admitting it there, you would have thought that the gazalins have had passed away.

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And I think the line got scared or or bored or

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whatever, and then just ran off, didn't do anything. Mhmm. And you can see the

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gazelle after a little bit of time start to

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get back on its feet, and you could see it actually tremoring and shaking

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to release that kind of

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That's -- Like, adrenaline, the stuff. Yeah. That adrenaline, that stuff

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in the body. And we have the ability

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to to do something similar. That's why sometimes dancing and

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shaking and letting loose and getting angry and punching the air -- Mhmm.

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-- is something that feels so good because trauma actually kind of

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the intelligence of our body, trauma sits within the body because sometimes

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anxiety sits in the heart, anxiety sits in between the ribs and

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the solar plexus. So you get mad. You

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get angry, punch. Like, punch the air, go crazy,

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shake it out, If you feel like

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you're, you know, you're stuck at your side of this, shake your hips, move around,

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get, like, allowing your body to process some

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of that stuff. I'm not saying you're not gonna have to talk about the stuff

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and also continue to integrate, but we actually do

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have a regulatory system that allows us to get back

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at least into -- Mhmm. -- out of that adrenaline space. If

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we just, like, continue to shade, continue why it's sometimes

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happening helps. Like -- Yeah. Mhmm. -- 50, things like that because

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it actually activates -- Mhmm. -- kind of us

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regulating ourselves Yeah. So I don't know if that's number 1. I

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don't know if that's whatever, but I know that that's something that's super accessible for

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most of us. Yeah. Yeah. I think even just

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starting with when you hit those moments of,

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like, something is trying to be released. However, that looks like,

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whether it's our hands shaking or, you know, whatever,

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that we allow it to be released to listen again to the

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intuitiveness of our of our bodies and of our, you

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know, our our brains and and to to just kind of

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allow ourselves to do something maybe a little bit out of our

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comfort zone to see what it feels like to to

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dance, to punch, to, you know, whatever in that in that safe care

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of our butt. That's right. That's right.

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Whatever that looks like. Yeah. You know, to be able to see, like, oh, hey.

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Like, I did that, and I actually felt a little better or I felt like

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I could breathe a little easier or my hands don't feel like that

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anymore. Whatever the case is is to just feel

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the shift and to know that it's okay?

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Yes. Okay. Alright. So

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the final fast and sometimes funny questions that I like to ask at the

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end of our show is a good way to wrap up. Again,

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just to hone in on our humanness and to have some fun.

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So the first question I have for you is you could go

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anywhere on Earth, where would you go?

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I would wanna go to the center of the Earth. Oh. What

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the hell is in there? Nobody actually knows. That'd be

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insane to me. That would be insane. I just

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wanna know what's in there. Tell me what the what the like, they've got

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these hypotheses, but no one's really been in there. So, like -- Sure. -- tell

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me what's inside or the bottom of the ocean. Tell me what kind of

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alien, like, freaky deaky creatures there

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are. Oh, yeah. Nigerian. Yeah.

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I I can see a lot of cool artwork, cool

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pictures coming out of that those realms. because you're right. Yeah.

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They're so untapped into you. That's yeah.

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Should pineapple be on pizza? Yes.

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Yes. A 100%. Honestly, I think it's so rude when

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people say, is it? Because it is, like, the best I'm sorry. It's

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so no. It's so delicious. I'm a I'm a I'm a pineapple person,

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but I thought you were gonna leave. You're really so

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rude of those 2. I know, Pete, out. Like,

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that's so funny. So delicious. It's so sweet. I my husband

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tried it one time, and he was like, if like, an abomination, and I was

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like, you're dramatic and you're disrespectful. So --

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So funny. Yeah. I I put the question in there, and it's so

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funny because this has been, like, a conversation piece on each

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episode of It's just such a strong opinion,

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like, a polarizing thing. I think it's delicious. I I think I

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shared this in another episode But I especially love it when the

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pineapple is cold, but the pizza is hot. So, like, I don't know --

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That's so sweet. -- to me. Oh my gosh. I think it's the best. with

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barbecue sauce. Barbecue sauce. Yes. Okay. So this is probably why

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we're drawn to each other on the spiritual level because of that. We just know.

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It's my favorite. It's I, like, don't even wanna have anything else.

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My pizza. That's it. It's good stuff.

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What makes you feel inspired or motivated

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to do this work that you love? You know what? I

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love when I see my clients, and

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they give me all of a sudden it clicks for them.

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they're like, oh, yeah. And so my intuition was guiding me to do some

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journaling, and so I did it. That

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oh my god. that is so cool. I don't even wanna say

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for a warning. It is so cool to watch the oh my god. I'm getting

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teary eyed, but it's so cool to be able to watch

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someone's -- Yeah. -- inner navigation system.

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Like, they start to trust it, and then -- Uh-huh. -- that's it. It is

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the coolest feeling in the world and the reason why I freaking

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exist on this planet. guess. I

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I resonate with that a 100%. I yeah. It's

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there is nothing quite like watching someone

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embrace or have that light bulb moment of of,

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oh, like, oh, this is what I can do or this is how, you know,

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it's It's the best. Yeah.

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There really is. What is one thing that people are

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generally surprised to find out about you?

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I'm not an extrovert. I'm not -- You're, like, the

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3rd person to say that. I I -- Really? Yes. And I think

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I'm finding I would love to do a poll of

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helping professionals because I think that most of us would be

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considered like a Not construed. But, you

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know, from the outside looking in that most people say, oh, yeah. You're, like, an

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extra right. Right? Like, you spend all your time with people. but most I think

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helping professionals are really introverts. So I'm sorry to cut you off. Please

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go ahead. No. You didn't. No. You didn't. You're talking to me. No.

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I I have always had a

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really not always. I really worked on it very This is one of

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the things that my subconscious mind, like, I had to -- Mhmm. --

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whatever. But I have always

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been able to, for the most part, my adult life, have been able

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to hold conversation and be, like,

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bubbly and, you know, like,

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like laughing and really enjoy people or whatever. And I do. I truly

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do. I actually gave a lot of energy from just existing

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outside, doing things outside, however.

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My home is the most sacred space that I

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have. Mhmm. I'm an artist. So I'd love to

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create art. I'd love to like, my idea of

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my, like, favorite night is working with my

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plants and painting on the wall. and

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creating little, like, trinkets and things like that. I just

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freaking love to create like, continue

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to create my home as, like, safe and expressive,

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and I'm just I'm watching, like, videos on

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gardening all the time. Like, I I have a million books on a million

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different things. And so

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I'm just I'm just a a home person.

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I love it. Yep. I love it.

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What does a simple moment of pure joy look like even

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though I think you kinda just described it? But I'm gonna I'm gonna ask the

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question anyway. A

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simple moment of pure joy for me is waking. This

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sounds maybe a masochistic, but I love

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waking up early in the morning, if I can.

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And it's, like, when the light is, like, peeking in through the blinds, and

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it's just it's, like, really there's, like, it's just calm. It's,

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like, quietness of the sunrise.

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And when I wake up, and there's it doesn't act in the

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often often, but if there's no noise

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happening or anything. And it just feels like,

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like, everything's got this, like, buzzing

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And it's it's just and the same thing happens late late at

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night. Late late at night, I I

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get artistic. 2 or 3 in the morning?

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Again, I'm crazy. 2 or 3 in the morning, but it's just just

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this quietness when nothing is expected.

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There's nothing happening, and I could just, like,

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do my narcissistic Yeah. And it's just this

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buzz of -- Yeah. -- quiet. And I think

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getting back into homeostasis as humans, it's not spitting back

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into those places so we can actually listen to what has to happen.

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You know? I yeah. Into that intuition.

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Mhmm. Mhmm. Makes me think of the quiet before the

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storm. Yeah. Yeah.

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What a beautiful conversation. Thank you,

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Kili. Thank you. You are I've said this before, but

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you are doing such beautiful work,

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especially with the theme of your podcast and with your

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passion and Just knowing you personally, I'm

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very lucky because, like

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I've said, like, the community that you have around you, should

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amplify you and should compliment you. And

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having met you and knowing you, it's just like it

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just affirms for me that my

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personal journey is, like, universe is

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celebrated. You know? Yes. Mhmm. Yes.

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Well, thank you so much, Keelie, for coming on today and talking with

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me, and I can't wait to have more conversations with you on

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here because I was just that was a good one.

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Yeah. I agree. Thank you so much, Candice. You're so

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welcome. Okay.

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Alright. Thank you so much for joining me today on moving out of trauma.

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If you like today's episode or you think it might be useful for someone else,

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please consider leaving us a review on your favorite podcast platform or

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on podchaser.com. And if you have any questions at all, I'd love

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to hear from you. You can find me over on instagram@solemission_emDR

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therapy. and over on Facebook at full mission EMDR

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therapy. Stay tuned for

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the calm state change place as well as the container exercise

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if you would like them. Remember, you didn't choose

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trauma, and you can choose your path towards healing.

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So I just want to invite you to find a comfortable

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position And to make sure that you're doing this exercise,

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somewhere safe, somewhere where you feel

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that you can take a few moments for yourself and

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definitely not while you're driving. So we're gonna start

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with the container activity, and then move into the

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calm steep place. So it's good to have

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a secure place where you can store memories and

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issues and and things that may need still some work.

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But also maybe you don't need to focus on them right at this

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point. So if you think about it almost like cleaning up

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the files on your desktop computer. So You can just

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feel a little bit less overwhelmed and focus a little bit more efficiently.

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Files are in a safe place. You can access them, the

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next time that you need to. So

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to start creating this container, I'd like you to imagine

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some kind of container or storage system

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that can securely hold as much as you need it to,

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for as long as you need it to, until you're ready to work

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on skin. So this container can

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be something you imagine. It could be something

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that's real. We just wanna make sure that

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this container has a lid or some type of

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secure closure. So that way, there's a way to take

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things out only when you want to.

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Now it's important to note we don't wanna put people in containers,

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but we can put memories and feelings and any kind

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of situations. So take a moment and

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really think about what that container might look like.

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Notice how the container feels.

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Notice how it feels that it's there for you.

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Should you choose to use it or when you choose to use it?

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And now, if you need to use that container, I want you to

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picture allowing whatever needs to go in there

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to take its place in there. This can

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happen slowly, This can happen quickly.

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However, it needs to happen. It's okay. Just

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allow The pieces, the memories, the

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thoughts, the feelings, the situation, whatever it is.

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It just slowly takes its place

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into that container.

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Now, once you feel like The things that need

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to be in the container are in there. I want you to close

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that container Some people like to

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imagine that there's a lock there or some kind

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of secured closure beyond just a a

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lid. So if you like, you can go ahead and lock that.

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And then just imagine it kinda taking its place back into

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wherever it needs to be. this could be a place that

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you think of in your home. This could be

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an imaginary place, wherever it is.

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Just someplace that we know that it's there when we need it.

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And now, we're gonna transition to that calm state

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change place. So this is a really

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good activity to develop a

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couple of ways to feel more calm and secure without

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really needing to rely on something or someone external than

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us. So one way we can do this to

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create this type of place that you can visit

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internally whenever you want, kind of like having

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an instant mini vacation on demand.

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So see if you can think of a place where you might feel a

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sense of calm or a sense of well-being.

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You can imagine a place that's similar to one that you've experienced,

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or heard about or read about.

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It's best not to use a specific memory with people, though, from

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your own history. So some people like to think of the

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beach or the woods,

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mountains, maybe some place they feel

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cozy.

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So just notice this place.

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Notice what you hear.

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Notice what you smell.

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Look around. What do you see?

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What do you feel? Maybe

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either temperature, the time of day,

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even down to how you feel in your body. as you imagine

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yourself in this place.

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Really just allowing yourself to soak up every single

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positive part of this place.

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The way it looks. the

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things that you hear.

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The things that you smell.

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the things that you might be able to touch, any textures or

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temperatures.

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and really encapsulating what you feel in your

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body as you're in this place

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as long as it feels good, and calm,

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and a place of centeredness.

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Now knowing that this place is always available to you

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because it is within you. It's a

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place of your very own making, a place

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that you can return anytime you need.

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Whether it's for quick deep breaths,

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returning the center, or maybe even winding

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down for the evening. This

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place is always here for you.

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So this recording is going to finish, but if you'd like,

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to stay in this place a while longer, you're certainly more than welcome to

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do so. And I hope that you'll join me next time

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