Leadership, integrity, and strategic thinker are only a few words to describe the qualities of a successful CAO. Malcolm White, the City of Sault Ste. Marie's CAO is wrapping up an impressive career in municipal government. From his start in recreation and culture to leading in local government through one of the most challenging times in recent history. Malcolm joins us with a special guest host to talk about the ups and downs in municipal government and what's up next in his retirement.