Laura and Xhafer workshop head-cat names. Laura thinks maybe Romo just needs to play ball with someone. Xhafer alliterates. This episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 4, Episode 8: Sine Qua Non.

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Hello, and welcome to Who Are You?

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We're a reasonably well done sci-fi

watch cast by a couple of former

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strangers who are now friends, and

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I'm Laura.

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Xhafer: And I'm Jafare.

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Laura: And I just saw you

updated your name in Descript.

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Xhafer: Yes.

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Yes.

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Yes, I did.

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It's a joke I'll be making

later in the episode, but

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Laura: Okay,

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Xhafer: you what it was, so

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Laura: if you wanna,

like, hold that one for

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your your favorite moment.

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Xhafer: I do wanna hold that

joke for my favorite moment.

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I've been

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: A- as I will say when the

time comes, it's a joke I've been

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holding for four seasons of this show.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: So it's time finally.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Congratulations.

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Xhafer: Right?

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Laura: We made it.

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I just want everybody to know that

at the top of my notes, every single

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episode since it happened, I have been…

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I have written, "Gracas Watch 2026,"

and there has been no Gracas yet.

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Xhafer: No.

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Laura: Not again, so.

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Xhafer: well, I mean, we don't

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Laura: Yeah.

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was in my last episode notes, too.

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I just want you to know that it's

there every time until we get it.

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Xhafer: We do see S- Caprica Six

for like 30 seconds of this episode.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Do we?

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Xhafer: yeah, just a

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Laura: we do.

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Yes.

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Yes, we do.

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Xhafer: yeah.

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Laura: There's so much

to talk about there.

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Xhafer: Sure is.

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Laura: Also, I keep writing at the top of

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: "WTF Nikki," because I keep

feeling like that should be something.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Is this n- are you

talking about Nikki Klein

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Laura: No, sorry.

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Nikki, the child,

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Xhafer: Oh,

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Laura: of Tiro and Callie, who

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Xhafer: Yes.

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Laura: should be a thing.

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Xhafer: Who should be a thing, 100%.

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Um, I will say your Grokkus watch does

get little bit of a bump this episode.

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You probably just didn't catch it.

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Laura: You're probably right, 'cause

I look very confused right now.

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Xhafer: it's not, it was not Grokkus.

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Laura: Oh.

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Oh, yes.

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No, I…

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Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: we do meet a new,

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Laura: Head person.

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Xhafer: A new head person this episode

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Laura: Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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No, that's what I, I was gonna say.

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Do you just wanna out it now?

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Is Lance a head person?

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Xhafer: Uh, Yeah, the Lance the Cap.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Yeah, 100%.

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Laura: I think he's a head person.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: Yeah, I mean, we'll

talk about it when we get there

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because Lee kind of tells on

himself a bit but I'm here for it.

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it's a fucking weird-ass episode.

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Laura: Yep.

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Xhafer: Episode 8 "Signed, Qanon."

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It's about conspiracy theories.

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Laura: Eh.

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Xhafer: No?

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Okay.

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Let me retake it.

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" Sine Qua Non"?

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Laura: Mm, it ain't that, no.

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" Xhafer: Sine Qua Non," of course

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uh,

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: We open on Leader Six being

brought to Cottle for surgery, the Quorum

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talking about the Basestar jumping away,

Papadama, or is it Athena, brought to

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his quarters Zarek tries to get the

Quorum to just calm down a little.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: he establishes himself as the

acting president of the colonies here.

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And Lee calls his dad, who's all

like, "Hey care if recognizing

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Zarek or having a conversation with

calm- would calm down the fleet.

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That's not my job.

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That's your job, Mr.

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Quorum, and good fucking luck.

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Go to hell."

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah, when we're, like, rushing Natalie

off to Doc Cottle, I was like, well,

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you know, at least he got some good

experience, I guess, on New Caprica

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operating on these Cylon birdies.

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But does not seem to be helpful

when you've been shot at point-blank

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range twice in the chest.

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Xhafer: No.

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Laura: I think it's pretty funny

that Adama still has this grudge on

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Zarek and will not take his calls.

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Xhafer: I mean, they're

not upset about it.

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Laura: Yeah, it's all right.

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Xhafer: I've, been angry at

people for less for longer.

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Laura: Sure, yeah.

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Same, honestly.

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Xhafer: Adama is, speaking of being

angry at people, pissed at Athena

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throwing the truce away, possibly

killing Rosalyn and Helo, most

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importantly, breaking her promise to him.

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Laura: Yeah, he is mad and disappointed.

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Xhafer: is really the

most important thing?

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Really?

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Breaking the promise?

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Laura: Yeah, the truce.

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Xhafer: and you're mad about

the promise being broken?

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Laura: The, the truce was

pretty important, yeah.

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And in this, like, Quorum conversation

where Zarek's trying to calm them down

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a little bit, it really sounds like

the humans believe at least that the

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jump was because of the assassination.

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Xhafer: Yes Like, because people are going

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Laura: because

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Xhafer: going to say

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Laura: Athena shot Natalie or Leader

Six, that- This base star jumped away.

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But we, what we saw was that we just

plugged in the hybrid and she jumped.

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So we don't really know

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Xhafer: happened

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Laura: if that, if, if those two

things actually have anything

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to do with each other or not.

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I mean, you know, but I don't really know.

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Xhafer: actually happen I don't--

I, I mean, you'll know next episode.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: at the uh, when we recorded

the last one, this is kind of really a

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two-parter with the next one where we get

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: the same story told

from the different goings-ons.

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Laura: Yeah, So Natalie has died.

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Xhafer: Gonna

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Laura: you give me, Papa Adama, just don't

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Xhafer: money

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Laura: separate me from Hera."

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Xhafer: you give me

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Laura: And Adama's like, "The brig is

no place for your child, so sorry."

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Xhafer: I mean, he's not, like,

saying you can't see Hera ever, right?

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But you're going to the brig

'cause you shot somebody.

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Laura: Right.

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Xhafer: the brig.

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That is what happens.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: you're expecting Hera to

hang out in the brig this whole time?

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Which

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: is what happens

at the end of the episode.

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Laura: Right.

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Xhafer: But what, like…

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We'll talk about it there.

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That's so dumb.

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Laura: S- how many times has a Sharon

shot somebody point-blank in the chest?

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W-

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Xhafer: the same hallway.

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Laura: mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: is that the same hallway

where uh Callie shot Boomer?

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It feels like it.

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Laura: Oh, yeah, I don't know exactly, but

it's definitely around the ship, and she

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Xhafer: not actually be the same hallway

in terms of its, like, location, in terms

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of, like, where it is on Galactica, but

for the, it's the long hallway set that

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they have, it 1,000% is the same hallway.

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Laura: Yeah, It's so interesting

that she's doing this all on … You

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know, we know she's had a vision.

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She kinda tells Adama,

like, "I had a vision.

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They're trying to take my child.

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I just have a feeling."

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And the look on his face when she tells

him about the vision, he's like, "These

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people and their fucking visions."

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Xhafer: "I've got a vision of

me putting my foot up your ass."

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Laura: Exactly.

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Xhafer: Red Foreman style.

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Laura: Poor Adama, he's being

ruined by other people's visions.

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Xhafer: Yeah, it's a bad time.

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Tells the quorum that the dadmiral

won't recognize Zarek to theme,

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we get our survivor count 39,674.

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It's up one.

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Laura: Okay.

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Sure.

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Xhafer: unexplained unknown birth.

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Laura: Sure.

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Okay.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: Good.

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Back from theme, Ty has sent a recon

raptor to where the resurrection hub was,

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Xhafer: Yeah,

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Laura: but it is gone.

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Xhafer: Yeah, the recon raptor

racetrack reports a rel-relinquished

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resurrection raft as enlisted

leader looks to Lucy Lawless.

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Laura: Sorry, what?

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Xhafer: The recon raptor racetrack reports

a relinquished resurrection raft as

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enlisted leader looks to Lucy Lawless.

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Laura: I,

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Xhafer: so they

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Laura: I got the Rs.

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Uh-huh.

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Xhafer: But uh Adama's all like, "Well,

they're going to get Deanna, so it has

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to be wherever they are, that's where…

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Wherever Deanna is, is where they are,

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Laura: Uh-huh.

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Xhafer: is the only explanation."

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Laura: Sure.

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Okay.

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Xhafer: There's

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Laura: there's a, a fun bit of business

in here where Ty is talking about Starbuck

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getting all the Vipers where they're

going or something, and I realized,

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like, "Oh, is Starbuck CAG now because

we, like, literally have nobody else?"

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Xhafer: I realized like, "Oh, she…"

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Like literally have no idea.

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Yes, Starbuck is CAG.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Helo's gone.

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Lee quit.

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a whole bunch of those pilots and

Vipers were over on that Basestar,

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Xhafer: Yes, that'll be

very important next episode.

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Laura: Ope.

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Xhafer: Starbuck, de facto CAG right now.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: Even sh…

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Yeah, Athena's in the

brig, like there's no one.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Great.

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So great.

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Nothing's gonna go wrong.

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Zarek is

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Xhafer: to punch you in the

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Laura: bunch of favors.

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I put y- you up for this position.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: you need to get your dad in line."

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Oh,

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Laura: Oh, there's a little

bit that I wanna call- Oh, okay

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Xhafer: which is because they are

down so many Vipers and pilots, they

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have to bunch up the fleet together.

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Laura: Yes.

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Yes, that was the whole…

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When they're having this conversation

with Starbuck, 'cause she's like, "Hey, I

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need everybody to scooch a little closer,

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: because I can't defend you

all with the few ships that I have."

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Xhafer: Yeah, this is important for a

couple of reasons, the main of which

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is that they are-- these pilots are

going to have to fly tight formation,

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which is not something civilian

ships are designed or want to do.

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Laura: Oh, no.

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Oh, no.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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It-- I mean, if you're a D&D player,

there might be some other words you would

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use to describe this that might, might,

might hint at other reasons this is bad.

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Laura: Uh-huh.

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Xhafer: I don't wanna get into that.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Could be a friendly fire

situation, for sure.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: Yeah, but Lee's telling Zarek

that, "I'm sorry, the fact of the matter

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is Dad is never gonna accept you."

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: So it's time for a committee.

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A committee of two.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Lee meets up with our favorite

little guy, Romo Lampkin,

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Laura: Also just a little guy.

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Xhafer: Who is going to help

him with his plans to do fucking

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anything since the Quorum won't.

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Laura: Ah.

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I could tell right away that something

is not right about Romo Lampkin.

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There were two things

that tipped it off for me.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: What do you got?

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Laura: He's wearing his

pajamas under his coat.

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Like, the shirt immediately under

his coat, he's got, like, two shirts,

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but the one that's immediately

under it is a pajama shirt.

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I don't know if you noticed that.

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Xhafer: I did not.

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Laura: It's, like, a

button-down padam- pajama shirt.

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And the other is that he, like,

immediately takes his glasses

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off and doesn't put them back on.

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Xhafer: Yeah, there's a lot of that

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Laura: he's very sincere this whole time.

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He's, like, sincerely not right.

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Xhafer: just raw dogging light,

which is not Romo Lampkin's style.

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Laura: Mm-mm.

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So I was like, "Huh."

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They have this little, fee negotiation

moment where he's like, "How much

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am I gonna get paid for this?"

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And he's like, "Well, what did you

get paid for the Baltar defense?"

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And he says, "A room with a view,"

and points to his window that is,

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like, a little box in the wall

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Xhafer: card-sized window.

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Laura: Yeah.

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And uh, he's just not … This

man ain't healthy.

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Something ain't right.

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I was like, "Oh, has he just,

like, been in this room too long?

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Is this just, like, in a

box and he's going insane?

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Or, like, what's happening here?"

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But we're gonna find out.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: but, but Romo's,

like, really not into this.

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He's like, "Sometimes we just

gotta be happy with what we've got.

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Like, Zarek is fine.

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He seems fine.

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Okay?"

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Yeah, what's wrong with Zarek?

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Yeah.

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He's an elected official,

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: you.

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Adama asks Ty to ask

Caprica Six about the Hub.

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She says only hybrids can

find it, Ty loses his shit.

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He sees Ellen again.

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As Condition One is

called, he's choking her.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, hmm.

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So the, the conversation flow is,

like, he wants to know what's up.

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She's like, "Saul, why are you

s- why are you all business?"

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And he's really uptight, and she just

calls him on his emotions, and he

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admits that this is important to Adama.

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That's when she, like, flips into Ellen.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: I think

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I, I don't know exactly where this

conversation would have gone if the

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condition one hadn't been called.

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But it's like that condition one snapped

him out of it, and he remembered, like,

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this is another Cylon who I don't think

had collaborative intentions at all.

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Like, this, the way that

she flips into Ellen is very

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manipulative, and I don't like it.

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So I don't know.

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But he seems to have remembered

that he's got important stuff

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to do, so no more mind games.

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I'm going.

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I don't wanna see Ellen.

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I don't need to see Ellen.

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I have a ship to run, so.

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Xhafer: He runs up to C&C,

where we find out one of the

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missing Raptors has jumped back.

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is venting fuel and oil.

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Racetrack and some very bad CGI for

the uncharacter- realistically bad

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CGI for this show on a spacewalk

where she's all CGI'd and it's just,

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like, her face superimposed in.

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Laura: Yeah.

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I'm sitting there the whole

time going, "Don't do this.

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Don't do this."

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Xhafer: Yeah, this is bad

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Laura: A mysterious ship jumps back.

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It's ours, it's shot to

hell but nobody's answering.

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Like, maybe, maybe wait.

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Maybe get, like, a team.

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Xhafer: Scan it for bombs

and then bring it on board.

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Laura: Yeah, like, like don't, don't.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: But she does it anyway

'cause really we're just

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doing this for the spooks.

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Um, it's just spooky business.

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It's not, like, trap as far as I can tell.

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Because we see as she's, like,

EVA-ing over that there's a

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bullet hole in the windshield,

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Xhafer: Yes.

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Laura: and that bullet hole struck

the pilot, which was Pike, I think.

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Yeah, so something shot him from outside.

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Don't know where that happened,

like what was the context.

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Was it just a firefight or, I don't know,

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: something else?

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But he dead.

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Xhafer: He's so dead.

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Adama finds his book on that

Raptor after they bring it in.

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Laura: looking a little singed.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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This was the one used by Rosalyn as

Laird pulls the jump coordinates out of

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the computer, and Adama tells them to

just get the Battlestar ready to jump.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Uh, Zarek is still

calling in the background.

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Xhafer: yeah, throughout all

this, Zarek is just still calling.

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Laura: Uh, does Admiral

Adama, Zarek is on the line?

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Um, what should I tell him now?

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Xhafer: Fuck off and die.

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Laura: Back to, to Romo, he's

bringing his cat around sort of.

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Xhafer: Eh.

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Laura: Um, he's giving this whole

thing about how ambition compromises

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civil servants, and that Lee and

Roslin both are suffering from

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a case of repressed ambition.

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They've got their, like, good hearts,

but they just, like, also really, really

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wanna, like, be at the top of the heap.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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I mean, this is something that I feel

like has been said many ways where

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it's the people who want power probably

not the best people to have power

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: wanting that power is, like, a

disqualifying factor for possessing it.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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Is it Douglas Adams who said that

anyone who is capable of getting himself

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elected should-- elected to lead should

on no account be allowed to do so?

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Xhafer: That sounds

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Laura: It feels Douglas Adams, yeah.

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I know I saw it somewhere, and I'm

gonna go ahead and attribute it to him.

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Xhafer: Yeah, that's fair.

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Laura: But while they're having

this conversation uh, they see

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Galactica jump out the window.

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They did not know that was gonna happen.

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Xhafer: Nope.

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Racetrack and Skulls find the remnants of

the first battle of the civil Cylon War,

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and Ty is just like, "They're all dead.

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Sorry, Bill.

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We best move on and not try to find the

final five," for absolutely no reason.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: and then Adama is all like, "No."

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I have this in all caps in my notes,

which I think I've done, like, twice ever.

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am so emotionally detached as admiral

that I cannot relinquish this emotional

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attachment, and for, like, the fifth time,

I'm gonna put the fleet in danger because

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I believe in the power of plot armor."

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Just like, "This character can't

die because they're important

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to me, so we're going to put

everyone in danger to go find them

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: again."

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Laura: Yep, seems right.

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Correct me if I'm wrong.

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I'm understanding it as when they, they

jump to this place, the Resurrection

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Hub is definitely destroyed,

and there's some Basestar junk

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: is the Basestar they were on.

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Xhafer: Yes.

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Laura: I don't know if they,

like, can confirm that for sure,

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but we think it was the Basestar.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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It's, there's base star

stuffs and big fights, so…

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Laura: Yeah, and the Resurrection

Hub is not where it was, so it

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seems to have been destroyed.

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But Ty, I think, reminds Adama in here

that like, "Hey, we left the fleet."

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Like, they're all alone.

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You just wanna, you wanna

keep that the way it is?

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Xhafer: Yeah, just, just chilling on that.

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That's what we're doing.

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Laura: Yep.

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So back at the fleet, the

Quorum is doing the at Zarek.

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and I guess, I guess they jumped back.

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I guess Battlestar Galactica must have

come back because Adama is requisitioning

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more ships to go out and search.

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Xhafer: Yep.

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Laura: Seems suspicious,

like not a good move.

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Um, like we're…

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You just gonna, you just gonna

keep the civilians on those ships?

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Xhafer: Yeah,

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Laura: 'Cause you probably don't

have another place to put 'em, right?

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Xhafer: This

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Laura: So

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Xhafer: for Lee at one

point, it went terribly.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Okay.

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And Zarek, I, I feel like Zarek was

trying to, like, maintain a facade of

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leadership and I, I can work this out.

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'Cause he's, like, trying to calm the

Quorum down, and he is, like, talking

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to them the second he knows anything.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Laura: but they are just wicked

afraid of military coup right now.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Lee and Romo talk candidates, and they

first bring up Captain Franks, who was

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the head judge from Balthar's trial.

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don't think we brought this up last

time when this character was around,

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: is Susan Hogan,

who is Michael Hogan's wife

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Laura: Oh, neat.

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That's cool.

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Good for her.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Fun fact.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: I think, I think someone

brought it up in the Discord

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those episodes were airing.

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Laura: Mm, okay.

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Xhafer: remember exactly.

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I think someone did.

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So I wanted to make sure we called

it out because I don't think we

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haven't had a mention of that

character since those episodes,

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Laura: Yeah, yeah.

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It kinda feels like we're not

gonna see her again because

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Romo is not super impressed with

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Xhafer: Well, no, he's super impressed.

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That's the

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Laura: oh, he is super impressed.

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She's not gonna do it 'cause she's

like, "Nah, I hate politics."

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Xhafer: Yeah, fuck off.

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I'm not interested.

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It's not like, "Well, now I

really want you to do it."

505

Laura: Yeah.

506

What a bummer.

507

Actually, you know, just, like,

from what we know of, like, Baltar's

508

trial and stuff, like, yeah, that

seems perfectly reasonable for her.

509

But,

510

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

511

Laura: She's too smart for this shit.

512

She's not gonna do that.

513

Xhafer: Yeah.

514

Laura: here is when I clocked it.

515

Xhafer: Yeah.

516

Laura: Yeah, when Lee trips

over Lance's bowl, and

517

Xhafer: empty.

518

Laura: it's empty, and kind of was

like, "Romo, w- have you fed the cat?

519

Where is that cat anyway?"

520

I was like, "Oh, that's not a real cat."

521

Xhafer: Well, he sees the cat.

522

Laura: Lee does not see the cat.

523

Xhafer: Lee sees the cat.

524

Laura: I don't think so.

525

I don't think Lee ever saw the cat,

526

Xhafer: No,

527

Laura: he says here, "Where is the cat?"

528

Xhafer: we see the cat,

like, run under a chair.

529

Laura: Yeah, but Lee didn't see it.

530

He was about to sit on the cat when

he went to run under the chair.

531

Xhafer: I, I, we see…

532

Like, we get the point of…

533

I mean, I guess the point of view is

not of, like, Lee looking at the cat

534

Laura: No, Lee never actually

looks at the cat and says, "Oh,

535

hi, kitty cat," or something.

536

He never sees this cat.

537

I, I am of that opinion

538

Xhafer: the audience does see the cat.

539

Laura: The audience sees the cat a lot.

540

We see, like, it wasn't this scene,

it was the scene before where Lee went

541

to sit down and almost sat on the cat,

and Romo, like, watches the cat leave.

542

Xhafer: Yeah.

543

Laura: Lee never acknowledges it, and even

when he says, like, "Where is the cat?"

544

He never actually acknowledges

seeing the cat go under the chair.

545

That's us and Romo.

546

Xhafer: Okay.

547

Laura: That's when I was

like, "This cat ain't real.

548

This cat is dead."

549

So, so

550

Xhafer: we cut over to Adama talking

to Cottle about Rosalyn missing space

551

chemo and the effects that's gonna have.

552

Laura: Uh-huh.

553

Mm-hmm.

554

Xhafer: And he's like, "Oh by

the way, about Caprica Six."

555

And then we cut to Adama telling Ty

556

Laura: Mm-hmm.

557

Xhafer: preggers.

558

Laura: Yeah, no, when, when uh, he

said, "I found something out about

559

Six," or however he said, "I found

something on the Six," I paused it

560

and I wrote in all caps, "Pregnant."

561

I knew it.

562

I was just like, whoa.

563

Whoa.

564

So don't have to sit in that one long.

565

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

566

Laura: we're gonna have

a fistfight about it.

567

Xhafer: The look in his eye.

568

Laura: Mm-hmm.

569

Xhafer: He's shaking.

570

They yell at each other about the

dumb decisions they've been making,

571

Laura: Mm-hmm.

572

Xhafer: Like, actually fight.

573

There's punching, there's kicking,

574

Laura: Mm-hmm.

575

Xhafer: breaking.

576

Laura: Yeah, we broke

our little ships again.

577

Xhafer: For, like, the fourth time.

578

Yeah.

579

Laura: Yeah.

580

Um, I was really worried now that

we know that Colonel Tye is a Cylon.

581

The second he throws a punch, I was like,

"Oh, my God, he could murder Adama,"

582

because he's got that super strength.

583

Xhafer: super strength.

584

I was wondering if he was gonna, like,

punch him and he was gonna, like…

585

Ob- obviously I knew that

doesn't happen here but part

586

of me was feeling that as well.

587

It was just all like, he is super strong.

588

Like,

589

Laura: Yeah.

590

Xhafer: to feel that as

the audience right now.

591

It's all like, what if he kills him?

592

Like, the stakes feel very real.

593

He could accidentally kill Adama.

594

Laura: Mm-hmm.

595

Yeah.

596

Uh, We settle for just breaking the

little ship again, and Adama's like, "Man,

597

I've repaired this thing so many times."

598

Xhafer: Yes.

599

Laura: They, they just kind of, after

they fought it out a little bit, they're

600

like, "Oh, what are we gonna do now?"

601

Xhafer: Yeah, gotta figure our lives out.

602

Oh.

603

Laura: Yeah.

604

I've, I've done bad things with the Six,

and you can't let this go with Roslin, so,

605

Xhafer: Yeah

606

Laura: We've got Athena

humming in the brig.

607

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

608

Laura: There's lots of humming

and singing going on this season,

609

just like, we got tunes going on.

610

Xhafer: Well, you know,

you hear the music.

611

Laura: Yeah.

612

Mm-hmm.

613

Xhafer: Starbuck tells the admiral that

the pilots are stretched very thin and

614

that asking them to go on this search

mission for the president tantamount to

615

asking them to go on a suicide mission.

616

clarifies, he's not asking.

617

Laura: Yeah.

618

Great.

619

Very sane.

620

Very, very good.

621

Xhafer: Right.

622

Laura: And he's watching the crew prepare

when Lampkin shows up with some paperwork.

623

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

624

He's

625

Laura: Lamp…

626

Xhafer: of forfeiture.

627

Laura: Yeah, this is like the,

the paperwork that goes with

628

requisitioning civilian ships

for military mission, I guess.

629

Xhafer: because they've got courts again.

630

Laura: uh-huh.

631

Xhafer: They have paperwork again.

632

Laura: Mm-hmm.

633

And he's like talking about hanging

on to hope as they watch, like, the

634

pilots who are left that are readying

the ship, saying goodbye to their loved

635

ones and stuff, and, um, talking about

their people, the people who give up

636

their lives for hope, and the things

without which life loses its value.

637

And then he makes like a last-ditch

pitch for like, "Come on, just

638

like, Zarek's fine, right?

639

He's fine.

640

Yeah, we have."

641

Yeah, but I think, I think you have.

642

Xhafer: Yeah.

643

You definitively have.

644

Laura: Yeah.

645

Um, but not gonna work, even though we

had our sunglasses off the whole time.

646

Do you think it would have worked

if we had the sunglasses on, if

647

we weren't being super sincere?

648

Xhafer: No, I

649

Laura: Yeah.

650

Xhafer: Adama that

651

Laura: Sure.

652

Xhafer: to be president.

653

Laura: Yeah.

654

But I think this gets him.

655

This is where we got him,

656

Xhafer: Yep.

657

Laura: and Adama's ready to, to let

go of command, not of the other thing.

658

Xhafer: Yeah.

659

acknowledges he's lost his objectiveness

and relinquishes command immediately

660

Laura: Yeah.

661

they, they actually haven't had their

conversation yet, him and Saul, right?

662

This is just him and Lee,

'cause I wanna talk about that

663

conversation when we get to it.

664

Xhafer: Oh, yeah, you're right.

665

He does-- He tells Lee he's

gonna relinquish command here.

666

He doesn't actually do it yet.

667

Laura: Yeah.

668

Xhafer: You're

669

Laura: And we don't really get

anything from Lee's point of view.

670

We- we're cutting really quick.

671

I, I wonder how- If Lee tries to talk him

out of it at all, probably not, 'cause,

672

like Dad is causing him problems right

now, and if Dad's not around, maybe

673

we can make this work a little bit.

674

Xhafer: Yeah.

675

Laura: But is…

676

Xhafer: won't take Zerek, and that's

the problem, then maybe Ty will.

677

Laura: Yeah.

678

I mean, and we know Ty doesn't

like Zarek particularly, but

679

Xhafer: Yeah.

680

Laura: he, he might…

681

Xhafer: like, do a coup immediately.

682

It was, like, his first

action as admiral last time,

683

Laura: Oh, yeah.

684

Did he coup against Zarek?

685

Or

686

Xhafer: he did.

687

Laura: was he couping

against Zarek or Roslin?

688

God, I can't remember this show.

689

Xhafer: Yeah.

690

Yeah, it was, It must have been

691

Laura: I thought it was Roslin,

'cause I thought he went and

692

Xhafer: w- no, it

693

Laura: he took the

Marines to Colonial One,

694

Xhafer: Yeah, yeah, yeah,

695

Laura: but

696

Xhafer: Rosalyn.

697

Laura: don't think we…

698

Yeah, I don't think that we

have ever gotten a kind word

699

from Ty about Zarek, so.

700

Xhafer: They've had, like, three

interactions, and most of them

701

involved Ellen being trashy on

702

Laura: Oh, I forgot about that.

703

Yeah.

704

Ellen definitely slept with

Zarek several times, right?

705

Xhafer: Yeah.

706

Laura: Yeah.

707

Xhafer: when I say she was being trashy,

I'm not talking about her infidelity.

708

I'm talking about her alcohol

and just general, shittiness.

709

Laura: Yeah,

710

Xhafer: just to…

711

Laura: 'cause they were, like, playing

games of, like, "Well, if you can get

712

me closer to power," like, you know.

713

So both of them wanting to be

closer to different types of

714

power, so that's pretty trashy.

715

Xhafer: Yeah.

716

Laura: Um, but we're gonna

cut to Romo talking about the

717

candidate problem with Lance.

718

Xhafer: Yep, he scribbles a bunch

of stuff on the board, which if you

719

paused and looked at the other names

he was writing, they are legitimately

720

just scribbles, not actual names.

721

Laura: Okay, I didn't even look.

722

I, 'cause honestly, okay, listener,

I'd, I've told this to Jafair,

723

but I think it was off pod.

724

The second I sat down to watch

this episode, I turned to my

725

husband and I said, "Watch.

726

In this episode, Romo Lampkin's gonna come

back and lawyer Lee into being president."

727

Xhafer: Yep.

728

You called.

729

You called

730

Laura: So, like, this whole time,

you know, I'm like, "There's…

731

I don't…

732

There's no one else."

733

Like, what are you,

what are we doing here?

734

I guess we were having a moment.

735

This episode is a moment.

736

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

737

Laura: Of course, yeah.

738

The, the qual- he, he does this thing

where he's like, "Well, I'm just

739

gonna list out the qualities that

our president has to have," right?

740

And then think about who fits that.

741

All scribbles.

742

Xhafer: All scribbles, no words.

743

Laura: And I don't remember the

words that he says, but, you know,

744

of course, of course whatever those

words were, they're all in Liadama.

745

Xhafer: Yeah.

746

So he goes to like leave and runs

into Lee in the hallway, and he's

747

all like, "It's you, motherfucker.

748

You're gonna be president.

749

Also, I'm pulling a gun on you."

750

Laura: Oh yeah, the whole time he's

talking to Lance about this thing,

751

he's, like, under his bed, and I was

like, "Oh no, he's getting a gun."

752

Xhafer: Yeah.

753

Laura: That's the only thing that can

possibly be under this bed that we

754

would be talking to the dead cat about.

755

Like,

756

Xhafer: Yep.

757

Laura: oh no.

758

Xhafer: Guns in space, bad.

759

Laura: Yeah, I mean, that room,

this ship doesn't look like it's

760

got, like, lots of holes, right?

761

Xhafer: They're in…

762

The hallway they're in has windows.

763

Laura: Yeah.

764

This ship doesn't look like the

best place to be firing a gun.

765

Xhafer: No.

766

Laura: I love how this whole

time the search committee has

767

literally been the two people.

768

There was no, like, committee.

769

It's just me and Romo

trying to figure it out and

770

Xhafer: Yeah.

771

Romo tells Lee that he's just too

damn special and hopeful, and he

772

should be depressed and just fly

the fleet into a sun because his

773

cat is dead, and now he's sad.

774

Laura: Yeah.

775

Xhafer: didn't he die with his

family when he had the chance?

776

And then Lee's all like, "Yeah, but

that's like literally everyone, survived.

777

Like e- everyone who

survived has dead family."

778

Uh It's like you are not special here.

779

You do not have some

like monopoly on guilt.

780

Laura: He said that the people

out there killed his cat,

781

Xhafer: Yeah.

782

Laura: and I was wondering if we

should take that literally or not.

783

I'm thinking not.

784

I w- I wonder…

785

I, I don't think anybody

really killed his cat.

786

I don't know.

787

Do you?

788

Xhafer: Um, I mean, I could see

people who were mad at Baltar

789

Laura: Oh.

790

Xhafer: on the cat.

791

Laura: I hadn't considered that.

792

Okay.

793

Yeah.

794

Maybe that is it.

795

I thought, because, like, we had the

empty food bowl and all that, I thought,

796

I wondered, man, I, I wonder if this,

the fleet situation is just getting

797

so dire that, like, there's not always

enough food, and we were just like,

798

"No, you can't feed that damn cat.

799

We need to eat."

800

Xhafer: Maybe.

801

I

802

Laura: You

803

Xhafer: he-- the other read is

that he was so depressed from,

804

like, the thrill of trial,

805

Laura: Uh-huh.

806

Xhafer: and the come down from

that was so bad that he just didn't

807

feed the cat and it just died.

808

Laura: Yeah, I don't, I

don't think he did it.

809

I…

810

Xhafer: it out of, like,

a willful neglect, but

811

Laura: Yeah.

812

Xhafer: like, depressive haze

that we clearly find him in.

813

Laura: Yeah.

814

No, I, I think it's probably

one of the other two.

815

It's probably either, like, the

people on the ship were like, "No,

816

you can't feed that cat because

we don't even have enough to eat."

817

Or, like you said, somebody

retaliated against the Baltar thing.

818

Because, like, where is he gonna go?

819

He's probably not liked either very

much around the fleet because he's

820

the one who got Baltar off, so…

821

But, you know, he wasn't like Lee Adama

with, you know, plot armor and such.

822

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

823

Laura: No one, no one could step up and

be in the way so poor kitty cat got it.

824

Aw, now I'm sad.

825

But yeah, he's, he, he had been

to somewhere to pick up the

826

cat is what he told us, and

827

Xhafer: Like,

828

Laura: had just landed.

829

Mm-hmm.

830

Xhafer: he had to go to another

planet to go take the cat to the vet.

831

Laura: And he was, like,, about

to get on the ship and could

832

have gone home to his family,

833

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

834

Laura: didn't,

835

Xhafer: Yep.

836

Laura: that's the, that's

the guilt he's now having to

837

face because the cat is gone.

838

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

839

Laura: I with this thing and it's…

840

And it wasn't even worth it 'cause

now it's not with me anymore,

841

and it was the last thing I had.

842

Xhafer: Yeah.

843

he still sees the cat even though the

cat's dead, which as we referenced earlier

844

in the episode, this is a mind cat.

845

This is a head cat.

846

This is

847

Laura: Mm-hmm.

848

Xhafer: this is a 6BT.

849

This is a Gracas.

850

is a cat-od.

851

Laura: Is that,

852

Xhafer: Cod?

853

Laura: trying to do a Claude thing there?

854

Xhafer: Yeah.

855

Laura: Hmm.

856

Xhafer: it not work?

857

Laura: We had Claude Anne already, though.

858

Xhafer: Yeah.

859

Okay.

860

Um, it's just C-A.

861

It's right there.

862

Laura: Mm-hmm.

863

Hmm, I'm trying to think of what other

AIs are out there that we haven't used.

864

Xhafer: Yeah, Gemini doesn't really work.

865

Laura: No, and neither does DeepSeek.

866

Oh, there's Llama, right?

867

Was Llama a thing?

868

Xhafer: Yeah.

869

Laura: Hmm.

870

Lan- Lansa?

871

Xhafer: it's, it's Lance,

but it's LL, maybe Lamps?

872

Lamps, LLM.

873

Get it in there?

874

Okay.

875

Laura: Yeah.

876

Hmm.

877

Xhafer: Eh, we really

had to work for that one.

878

It doesn't feel earned.

879

Laura: That's all right.

880

there, there was a whole thing

where, like, he makes Lee open

881

the bag, and look at the, the cat

has been dead for weeks, Lee says.

882

Oh.

883

Xhafer: Yeah.

884

How does that not smell?

885

Laura: how long has it

been since the trial?

886

Yeah, it's gotta- that bag actually has

to smell everywhere he takes it, right?

887

Like, oh my God.

888

Xhafer: Um, it's been an

indeterminate amount of time.

889

They stopped putting on things

890

Laura: Yeah.

891

Xhafer: a while ago.

892

Laura: Yeah.

893

'Cause we had, like, 58 days

since Starbuck came back, but

894

Xhafer: We don't know how long

the Demetrius mission was.

895

That could've been months.

896

Laura: Well, they said

it was a 60-day mission.

897

Xhafer: Did they?

898

Okay.

899

Laura: Yeah, when, when 58 days

comes back, they're like, "We

900

only have two more days, guys.

901

Two more days."

902

Yeah.

903

Xhafer: know how long Starbuck was

around before the Demetrius mission

904

Laura: Yeah.

905

Xhafer: thinking.

906

Laura: Yeah, probably not too long, but

she had been gone for three months before

907

that, because it was a big deal that

she only thought it was, like, hours.

908

Xhafer: Yeah.

909

Lee gets sworn in here, and I can finally

use the joke I've had since the first time

910

we othered, uttered the phrase Dadmiral.

911

He's the Pres-son-dent.

912

Eh, yeah.

913

Laura: Very convenient that Daddy Adama

has stepped down, because otherwise,

914

this wouldn't be happening, right?

915

Like, even if Lee is perfect, even if

he's perfect, with air quotes all over

916

the place Dad is still the military.

917

Xhafer: Yeah.

918

Laura: No good.

919

Xhafer: Nope.

920

Laura: now Adama's gonna

hand the ship over to Ty.

921

Xhafer: Yeah.

922

He's like, "You must be crazy.

923

mean, you're crazy enough to step

down, I believe that, but you're not

924

crazy enough to hand me the keys."

925

Laura: I feel like Ty was this close, like

this close to saying it in this scene.

926

Like, he was gonna tell Dad.

927

He was gonna be like,

"You really can't do this.

928

You can't give this ship to me because

929

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

930

Laura: Cylon."

931

But- I like how there's no mention of

we're just handing you the ship with the

932

prisoner on it, that, like, I don't know.

933

Xhafer: Right.

934

Laura: There's…

935

Xhafer: conflict of interest-y.

936

Laura: I just don't think

there's really I'm not gonna…

937

Cylons are complicated, but

is there any consensual sex

938

when one of you is a prisoner?

939

Is that really a thing?

940

Xhafer: No.

941

Laura: she's pregnant, which

we also need to discuss.

942

Yeah.

943

A- and it's like, well, how m- how

much of a prisoner is a Cylon really?

944

But I mean, I think that…

945

Xhafer: could, could bust

out of there, I'm sure.

946

Laura: I think if she busted out of there,

she, she could absolutely bust out of

947

there, but would she make it off the ship?

948

I don't know.

949

You know, so then you, you are a prisoner.

950

Like, 'cause we know that, like,

Gina was legitimately subju-

951

subdued at some point, right?

952

Xhafer: Yeah.

953

Laura: couldn't, couldn't do it.

954

So even though Caprica Six is wily, like,

hmm, maybe she doesn't make it off the

955

ship either, so maybe she is a prisoner.

956

Um.

957

Xhafer: I mean, I, I agree that

in terms of society and how our

958

understanding of the human mind,

that consent is not possible there.

959

Laura: Yeah.

960

And, and that's

961

Xhafer: Sylens are different,

962

Laura: the, eh…

963

Xhafer: but I also don't want

to excuse rape at all ever, so,

964

Laura: The framework that Adama should

be working from is that there is

965

no consensual sex with a prisoner.

966

Xhafer: 100%, Yeah.

967

Laura: And he should be reckoning

with that before handing the keys

968

to the ship over to that man.

969

Xhafer: Like, if Six has a superpower,

it's compar- compartmentalizing, 100%.

970

Laura: Yeah.

971

Xhafer: that's still not, that still

doesn't change the terms of this,

972

Laura: Yeah.

973

A- and

974

Xhafer: was getting to.

975

Laura: yeah, and Six, Six being

whatever someone needs her

976

to be is, like, problematic.

977

We should not…

978

This…

979

I don't, I don't know that that's

gonna go anywhere, but I'm sitting here

980

like, no one is talking about this,

and they should be talking about this.

981

But instead, we're talking about,

like, "Oh, well, go let Hera

982

stay in the brig with Athena.

983

Just do that for me, okay?"

984

Xhafer: Yep.

985

Laura: Okay.

986

Xhafer: gives Romo Jake, of the

resistance, the dog whose bowl was

987

used on New Caprica to pass messages.

988

Laura: I thought the dog looked

familiar, but I didn't, it

989

didn't, I didn't clock it.

990

He's a hero dog.

991

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

992

Laura: His people can't keep him anymore

for some reason, and I guess Lee is of the

993

opinion that cats and dogs are completely

substitutable quant- commodities, but

994

I, I would argue they aren't always.

995

Xhafer: No, definitely not.

996

Laura: kind of seems like the

guy who's gonna get annoyed

997

by how much the dog needs him.

998

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

999

Laura: Like cats are pretty chill

doing their own thing most of the time,

00:43:25,133 --> 00:43:26,583

and sometimes they wanna be near you.

00:43:26,613 --> 00:43:28,753

But a dog is always like, "Hi.

00:43:29,265 --> 00:43:30,155

Xhafer: What's up?

00:43:30,273 --> 00:43:30,373

Laura: up?

00:43:30,813 --> 00:43:31,783

What are we doing?

00:43:32,093 --> 00:43:32,793

You got my ball?

00:43:33,393 --> 00:43:34,713

Are we gonna, are we gonna do the ball?"

00:43:35,295 --> 00:43:35,945

Xhafer: gonna do the ball?

00:43:37,743 --> 00:43:38,053

Laura: I don't know.

00:43:38,053 --> 00:43:39,163

Maybe it'll be good for Romo.

00:43:39,163 --> 00:43:42,333

Maybe that, that is what he needs

is somebody to do ball with.

00:43:42,613 --> 00:43:45,373

Um, but yeah.

00:43:45,453 --> 00:43:45,873

Okay.

00:43:46,515 --> 00:43:47,635

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:43:48,423 --> 00:43:49,903

Laura: Is Eric gonna stay vice president?

00:43:50,539 --> 00:43:50,889

Xhafer: Yep.

00:43:51,819 --> 00:43:53,229

It legitimizes the government.

00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:54,979

It worked for Rosalyn, it'll work for Lee.

00:43:56,032 --> 00:43:58,732

Laura: I don't know why I, I, I

don't like the way you said that.

00:44:00,055 --> 00:44:01,335

Xhafer: You shouldn't.

00:44:02,082 --> 00:44:04,182

Laura: Oh, cool.

00:44:05,145 --> 00:44:06,985

Xhafer: Eh, I mean, could be worse.

00:44:07,272 --> 00:44:11,372

Laura: M- I mean, they do seem to

have like a tacit agreement about

00:44:11,372 --> 00:44:13,262

something, so maybe it will be fine.

00:44:13,502 --> 00:44:14,012

I don't know.

00:44:15,572 --> 00:44:17,372

But Lee is pretty worried about Dad.

00:44:18,795 --> 00:44:19,215

Xhafer: Yes.

00:44:19,695 --> 00:44:20,495

Yeah, they talk.

00:44:20,495 --> 00:44:24,825

He's gonna stay behind 'cause

he can't live without Rosalyn.

00:44:24,825 --> 00:44:26,805

He says it out loud, "I

can't live without her."

00:44:27,752 --> 00:44:28,172

Laura: Hmm.

00:44:28,375 --> 00:44:31,285

Xhafer: I'm gonna stay at this

rendezvous point until they show up.

00:44:32,562 --> 00:44:33,022

Laura: Yeah.

00:44:34,712 --> 00:44:35,282

Oh.

00:44:36,065 --> 00:44:38,765

Xhafer: This only works

for, like, one jump, right?

00:44:39,005 --> 00:44:41,035

Like, to know where they're going.

00:44:42,032 --> 00:44:44,902

Laura: I can g- like I guess they

could have like a planned list of

00:44:44,902 --> 00:44:48,122

like, "Okay, here's what we think

our next 10 jumps are gonna be,"

00:44:49,065 --> 00:44:49,575

Xhafer: Maybe.

00:44:49,652 --> 00:44:50,402

Laura: he can wait.

00:44:51,102 --> 00:44:54,302

But yeah, does seem…

00:44:54,952 --> 00:44:55,242

Yeah.

00:44:55,855 --> 00:44:58,185

Xhafer: I mean, you're not gonna

put it in a buoy 'cause then

00:44:58,375 --> 00:44:59,955

the Cylons can just follow you.

00:45:00,285 --> 00:45:00,405

But

00:45:00,522 --> 00:45:00,872

Laura: Yeah.

00:45:00,955 --> 00:45:03,575

Xhafer: just gonna, like, maybe.

00:45:05,295 --> 00:45:10,145

at least, like, bring more than

one book, bring a couple meals,

00:45:10,752 --> 00:45:11,012

Laura: I…

00:45:11,155 --> 00:45:14,195

Xhafer: to jump back to the fleet

at a certain point in time maybe,

00:45:14,702 --> 00:45:15,262

Laura: mm-hmm.

00:45:15,345 --> 00:45:17,445

Xhafer: if it's just to get,

like, the next set of things

00:45:18,532 --> 00:45:23,432

Laura: I told Aaron there needs to

be like a comedy edit of Battlestar

00:45:23,432 --> 00:45:31,114

Galactica where instead of Adama like

cracking open the book as he's waiting

00:45:31,884 --> 00:45:34,134

he gets out the model ship and the glue.

00:45:38,604 --> 00:45:41,404

'Cause that, that would take up some time.

00:45:41,404 --> 00:45:43,474

You should've brought the

ship along, I'm just saying.

00:45:43,716 --> 00:45:43,976

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:45:44,206 --> 00:45:49,046

The, the next episode preview

is actually just a two-hour long

00:45:49,336 --> 00:45:54,876

special of Adama fixing the ship

in real time, waiting for Roslin.

00:45:54,916 --> 00:45:55,216

that's

00:45:55,229 --> 00:45:55,479

Laura: Yeah,

00:45:55,496 --> 00:45:56,216

Xhafer: next episode.

00:45:56,216 --> 00:45:56,756

Congrats.

00:45:57,229 --> 00:46:00,199

Laura: and he like glues his

fingers together at one point,

00:46:00,566 --> 00:46:00,986

Xhafer: yeah.

00:46:01,189 --> 00:46:02,819

Laura: and says a couple of dad swears.

00:46:02,836 --> 00:46:03,426

Xhafer: frack.

00:46:03,426 --> 00:46:03,656

Yeah.

00:46:03,656 --> 00:46:05,006

Ah.

00:46:07,689 --> 00:46:08,049

Laura: Yeah.

00:46:08,679 --> 00:46:09,049

Let's see.

00:46:09,049 --> 00:46:10,499

Did we hit all the important points?

00:46:10,529 --> 00:46:13,949

Oh, yes, we, we are gonna

salute Dad while he walks away.

00:46:13,949 --> 00:46:15,189

That's very cute.

00:46:15,406 --> 00:46:15,746

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:46:15,846 --> 00:46:17,846

He gets seen off by Apollo and Starbuck.

00:46:18,449 --> 00:46:18,879

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:46:19,456 --> 00:46:22,616

Xhafer: They bring Hera to the brig

for Athena rather than posting a

00:46:22,616 --> 00:46:24,726

guard outside of her goddamn quarters.

00:46:25,549 --> 00:46:30,809

Laura: Yeah, 'cause being in a

brig will be fine for a child,

00:46:31,389 --> 00:46:34,459

and we get some, like, more

humming in the brig, holding Hera.

00:46:34,999 --> 00:46:35,279

It's

00:46:36,016 --> 00:46:36,476

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:46:40,179 --> 00:46:40,689

Laura: Yeah.

00:46:40,716 --> 00:46:41,706

Xhafer: orders the fleet away.

00:46:41,706 --> 00:46:44,376

I don't know if you noticed, he

didn't put on the admiral pins.

00:46:45,619 --> 00:46:47,279

Laura: Oh, I didn't notice that.

00:46:47,319 --> 00:46:49,919

He was handed the admiral pins,

but he didn't put them on.

00:46:50,466 --> 00:46:50,816

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:46:51,859 --> 00:46:52,709

Laura: Yeah, I wouldn't either.

00:46:53,384 --> 00:46:56,254

Xhafer: And then Adama passes

the time with a book to credits.

00:46:56,937 --> 00:46:57,237

Laura: Yeah.

00:46:57,244 --> 00:46:57,624

Xhafer: book.

00:46:57,924 --> 00:46:58,154

Yeah.

00:46:59,069 --> 00:47:00,949

Laura: Okay, well.

00:47:01,517 --> 00:47:01,767

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:47:01,807 --> 00:47:04,227

You know the thing, "Colonies" 1.12,

00:47:04,227 --> 00:47:04,887

give it a rating.

00:47:05,909 --> 00:47:10,729

Laura: I'm gonna guess that this wasn't

one of your most depressing moments,

00:47:10,729 --> 00:47:13,319

but I found the cat very depressing.

00:47:13,919 --> 00:47:14,519

I was very

00:47:14,657 --> 00:47:15,567

Xhafer: close.

00:47:16,229 --> 00:47:21,509

Laura: for Romo It was

good, and it was beautiful.

00:47:21,509 --> 00:47:24,559

I'm, I'm actually gonna

give this one a 10, I think.

00:47:24,749 --> 00:47:29,549

Like, no, we didn't go through

a lar- large span of time, and

00:47:29,549 --> 00:47:31,379

we didn't get a lot done, but

00:47:32,196 --> 00:47:33,456

Xhafer: It's a, it's an important episode.

00:47:33,456 --> 00:47:34,646

It's a meaningful episode.

00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:40,389

Laura: yeah, I found a lot of meaning

in Romo Lampkin's, like, breakdown,

00:47:41,086 --> 00:47:41,446

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:47:42,109 --> 00:47:46,479

Laura: kind of facing consequences

that, for as far as we know, 'cause

00:47:46,479 --> 00:47:51,039

his character was so cocky when he

showed up the first time, that he

00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:53,619

hasn't really reckoned with a lot

of stuff, and now he's doing it.

00:47:53,949 --> 00:47:57,709

Um, I don't know how I feel

about Lee being president.

00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:58,529

I don't know.

00:47:59,189 --> 00:48:01,399

He's an idealist, we'll say that.

00:48:02,519 --> 00:48:05,599

Don't know if it's all gonna

go as easy as he thinks it is.

00:48:05,909 --> 00:48:10,579

Um, I feel like Mom is gonna

come back and be like, "See?

00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:12,099

See?

00:48:12,419 --> 00:48:13,009

I told you."

00:48:15,249 --> 00:48:18,029

The, like the Quorum's

gonna go nuts or something.

00:48:18,509 --> 00:48:18,959

I don't know.

00:48:19,569 --> 00:48:23,799

But it's all very good setup,

and I enjoyed it, so 10 from me.

00:48:24,941 --> 00:48:25,941

Xhafer: I'll give it a nine.

00:48:26,779 --> 00:48:27,899

Laura: Okay.

00:48:28,021 --> 00:48:28,141

Xhafer: it.

00:48:28,141 --> 00:48:31,051

I didn't like it as much as the last

one, but it's still a real good episode.

00:48:31,659 --> 00:48:31,929

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:48:32,721 --> 00:48:37,151

Xhafer: And next week we've got

season four, episode nine, The Hub.

00:48:37,574 --> 00:48:40,154

Adama sits in the ship for

two hours m- assembling…

00:48:40,544 --> 00:48:40,604

No.

00:48:40,604 --> 00:48:40,964

Uh,

00:48:43,863 --> 00:48:47,153

Viper pilots plan an attack

on the Resurrection Hub with

00:48:47,153 --> 00:48:48,883

their Cylon rebel allies.

00:48:49,691 --> 00:48:50,161

Laura: Okay.

00:48:51,331 --> 00:48:51,821

All right.

00:48:52,711 --> 00:48:54,341

So we're still doing the thing.

00:48:55,038 --> 00:48:55,148

Xhafer: We're

00:48:55,291 --> 00:48:55,751

Laura: I wonder

00:48:55,768 --> 00:48:56,118

Xhafer: thing.

00:48:56,591 --> 00:48:58,601

Laura: if we know about Natalie.

00:48:59,341 --> 00:49:00,031

We'll find out.

00:49:00,528 --> 00:49:01,148

Xhafer: We'll find out.

00:49:01,218 --> 00:49:03,498

We'll find out a handful

of things next episode.

00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:05,164

Laura: All right.

00:49:05,544 --> 00:49:08,352

Xhafer: But until then, you

should find out about how great

00:49:08,352 --> 00:49:10,452

Jeremy Siegel is, listener.

00:49:10,622 --> 00:49:11,982

He's the best.

00:49:12,852 --> 00:49:13,842

Does our theme music.

00:49:13,842 --> 00:49:17,362

You can find more of his work

at jeremysiegel42.bandcamp.com.

00:49:18,110 --> 00:49:21,520

Laura: And you should also go on Instagram

and find out more about Angry Duck Time

00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,540

Machine, who did our podcast artwork.

00:49:24,537 --> 00:49:28,247

Xhafer: You probably shouldn't, like,

find out more about Aaron because

00:49:28,247 --> 00:49:29,807

that might be some weird doxing.

00:49:30,249 --> 00:49:31,559

Laura: Yeah, that might be a little weird.

00:49:31,647 --> 00:49:33,387

Xhafer: c- but you can

know how great he is.

00:49:33,387 --> 00:49:34,997

Thanks for editing the podcast, Aaron.

00:49:35,573 --> 00:49:36,373

Laura: All the time.

00:49:36,863 --> 00:49:37,523

But you know what?

00:49:37,933 --> 00:49:39,783

You can find out more about the Discord.

00:49:40,103 --> 00:49:40,843

That's okay.

00:49:41,173 --> 00:49:41,873

That's allowed.

00:49:42,433 --> 00:49:45,953

It's in the show notes if you wanna

come talk about any last-minute

00:49:45,953 --> 00:49:49,773

things, 'cause we're getting

down to the wire on this show.

00:49:50,701 --> 00:49:51,091

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:49:51,673 --> 00:49:56,063

Laura: Only got a little over

half left, so if you have things

00:49:56,063 --> 00:49:59,253

you need to say, go say them.

00:49:59,563 --> 00:50:02,673

But if they have spoilers in

them, say them in spoiler town.

00:50:03,203 --> 00:50:04,233

That's where you're allowed.

00:50:04,931 --> 00:50:05,984

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

00:50:06,361 --> 00:50:06,801

All right.

00:50:06,801 --> 00:50:08,041

We'll see you next week, internet

00:50:08,534 --> 00:50:09,674

Laura: Okay, bye.