In this episode, Sasha and Stella eagerly welcome journalist Katie Herzog, who is also co-host with Jesse Singal on the popular podcast Blocked & Reported (aka BARPod). This dynamic discussion covers a wide range of topics, including Katie’s experiences and observations over the past two decades as a lesbian in the queer / LGBTQ+ community, especially pertaining to trans identities. They also explore Katie’s reflections from her influential 2017 article on detransitioners, The Detransitioners: They Were Transgender, Until They Weren't, and how her perspective on gender has evolved in the aftermath of its publication. The conversation even delves into repressed memories, different approaches to psychotherapy, nonbinary identities, and the particularly interesting, important and controversial topic - preferred pronouns. Katie, known well for both her wit and thoughtfulness, brought a unique perspective to these discussions, much like she lends to her own work and content.
Links:
Blocked and Reported (Katie’s Podcast with Jesse Singal)
https://www.blockedandreported.org/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=substack_profile
The Detransitioners: They Were Transgender, Until They Weren't
https://www.thestranger.com/features/2017/06/28/25252342/the-detransitioners-they-were-transgender-until-they-werent
A Response to the Uproar Over My Piece, "The Detransitioners"
https://www.thestranger.com/lgbtqitslfa/2017/07/03/25262759/a-response-to-the-uproar-over-my-piece-the-detransitioners
Katie’s Work with The Stranger (including articles linked above)
https://www.thestranger.com/authors/24847206/katie-herzog
A Segment from Katie’s Appearance on Real Time With Bill Maher
https://youtu.be/H5tZZvUUvXA?feature=shared
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If you liked this episode, more episodes you might find interesting:
Episode 1 - Trans: Identity vs Dysphoria
https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/trans-identity-vs-dysphoria
Episode 8 - TransGenerational Wisdom: A conversation with Buck Angel
https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/8-transgenerational-wisdom-a-conversation-with-buck-angel
Episode 35 - Communicating About Gender: Translating Between Parent & Child
https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/35-translations
Episode 39 - Nonbinary Identities
https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/39-nonbinary-identities
Episode 41 - Trans: A Conversation with Helen Joyce
https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/41-trans-a-conversation-with-helen-joyce
Episode 52 - Gender Dysphoria & Detransition Research: A Conversation W/ Dr. Lisa Littman
https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/52-gender-dysphoria-detransition-research-a-conversation-w-dr-lisa-littman
Episode 71 - Gender: The American State of Affairs w Jesse Singal
https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/71-gender-the-american-state-of-affairs-with-jesse-singal
Episode 88 — Gender: Philosophy, Institutions, and Policy w/ Leor Sapir
https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/88-gender-philosophy-institutions-and-policy-with-leor-sapir
Episode 93 — A Takedown of Gender Politics with Wesley Yang
https://gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/93-a-takedown-of-gender-politics-with-wesley-yang
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