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Transformative Small Changes for Personal Growth with Ell Graniel
Episode 4020th March 2025 • The One Small Change Podcast • Yvonne McCoy
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In this episode of "The One Small Change Podcast," host Yvonne McCoy welcomes guest Ell Graniel, who shares her journey of personal transformation and growth through the recognition of small yet profound changes. Ell delves into her path from a challenging upbringing to discovering the power of taking charge of her life. Together, they discuss the significance of self-discovery and the impact of embracing change to unlock one's full potential. Listen as Yvonne and Ell explore the intricacies of mindset, neuroplasticity, and the courage required to step into one's true self.

Guest Bio:

Ell Graniel is a personal development coach and expert in neuroplasticity. With over 27 years of experience, Ell specializes in helping individuals identify their unique strengths, rewire their mindset, and break free from limiting beliefs. Her work centers on empowering people to uncover their true potential and achieve transformative growth in both their personal and professional lives.

Chapters:

00:00 "Transformative Journey from Poverty"

05:54 Brain Wiring and Personal Transformation

09:43 Embracing Inner Strength

13:31 "Realizing Simple Changes"

14:17 Unlock Hidden Opportunities

18:06 "Self-Understanding Before Success"

23:44 "Generous Gift: Podcast Growth Journey"

25:24 "Pause, Reflect, and Improve"

Main Quote by the Guest:

"When you can identify what your strengths are, that can help you put together a mosaic much better." - Ell Graniel

Links to Guest's Website:

Your Success Mindset Scorecard - https://bit.ly/SuccesswithEll

Transcripts

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Welcome to this one small change. I am thrilled as

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always that you are joining me for this journey of exploration and

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transformation. I'm your host, Yvonne McCoy, and I bring

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almost thirty years of entrepreneurial experience and a

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passion for growing your business through the power of what seems like

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seemingly small change. And as always, I have a fabulous

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guest this week, and you are gonna wanna hear what she says.

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Today, my guest is Ell Grenell,

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and she's gonna be sharing with you how some smaller

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unexpected decision or change sparked a

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remarkable transformation and growth in either her personal

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her personal and her professional life. Elle, thank you for

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joining me. Thank you. I'm thrilled to be here

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sharing this with you as well. So yay. So

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tell us about the small change. And and, you

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you know, now that you know, Because it usually becomes so

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much bigger, it doesn't seem like a small change anymore.

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Yeah. When you, you know and when you become what I call

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vintage in life, there are a lot of those small

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changes, right, that make us the mosaic that we are, you

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know, this beautiful, like, piece of art. And so I was

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thinking back to kind of the first time I really realized

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that I had a shift because, you know, I was born into

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poverty, grew up in a trailer park, suffered all of the abuses,

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you know, most of the abuses, and consider myself not a

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survivor, but a graduate. And then

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in my twenties, I started getting into self help, right,

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motivational stuff. And there was a program called Nightingale Konap where

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once a month, you would get a cassette series in the mail. So this is,

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like, back in the nineties. And I was listening

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to those, and it was, you know, it was, just so many people. It was

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Les Brown and Wayne Dyer, you know, and all of these kind of, you

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know, folks back then. Zig Ziglar was one of my favorites. One

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day, I was sitting in the living room doing my version. I have a lot

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of ways to meditate, and one of them is

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I stare at a blank wall, and I just kinda just start to get quiet.

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And that's never intentional. It just happens. But one day, that was I was in

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that white wall space, and it

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occurred to me that I'm in charge.

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And I was in my late twenties maybe, and I was like, what does that

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mean? I'm in charge because it was really loud. You know? It was, like,

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confident and proud. And I and it was

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like a light bulb came on. It's it

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wasn't, you know, my upbringing. It wasn't the poverty. It

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wasn't that I'm a, you know, Latina female. It wasn't you know what I

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mean? But I'm from the trailer park. It wasn't all of those

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things that that are an easy blame.

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An easy blame for why you're not living your life on purpose, why you're not

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connecting and getting out there, right, and shining. And that was the

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beginning of me figuring out my career,

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and it just was like, oh, you know, instead of a downward spiral, it

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was an really upward spiral. So the one small change

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was realizing that I'm in charge. I make

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the decisions. They're my thoughts. They're my actions.

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Claim them and make them mine. It it's funny that you say

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that because I had a a similar experience, and and I can

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see it. I was riding in the car. I was on the highway. I

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was playing a cassette player, and it's

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Brian Tracy. And he basically said

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this is paraphrasing because it was decades ago, but he basically said,

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you're an adult. Get over. Get over your parents. Get I I was

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like, he's right. I'm married. I have two

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kids. I have a husband. I have a career. I have and I'm

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still, like, obsessing about the stuff that happened when I was a kid.

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And so yeah. I mean, the shift Mhmm. I mean, it's a

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sentence, really, but the

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impact is almost like a wedge because it

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opens up so much more. Absolutely.

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Yeah. And that's that's just been continuing for me to

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look at how to keep getting over myself. Because as we go

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through different phases in life and situations, we do acquire

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biases with the people we hang around and the state we live

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in and, you know, all all of that kind of stuff. And so to

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catch yourself on being, biased. Right? Because

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we're all judgmental by nature. That's what keeps us alive. Right? We've gotta judge things

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quickly. But it's a matter of if you're staying stuck and you're not

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allowing yourself to learn more Mhmm. Is where the trouble

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begins in my opinion. Well, I think I think continuous

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learning I mean, here's here's what I say to people. Your life

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is you're shooting at a moving target. If you're not

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changing and growing, you're stagnating and falling behind just

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just by the the fact that you're not doing every anything and the world

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is changing. And so, you know, I don't

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know that people are really clear about what you do, and I've had the experience

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of experiencing that. So I want you to talk a little bit about that,

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and, and I can tell you what has happened since last we

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spoke. Okay. That's exciting.

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So thank you. That's, like, that's a super perk.

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So many years ago, once I got into this, you know, kinda self improvement type

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thing, I met a woman named doctor Libby Adams

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who had the International Academy of Self Knowledge, where the

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subject is you. And I'm like, this is perfect. This is what, you know, what

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I've been looking for. And that was back in, you know, like,

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'95 or something like that. And I I just

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started taking the courses. I got trained in NLP, negotiation, just all

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kinds of things, all the personality type predictors, the Enneagram and

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Myers Briggs. And I just became fascinated by the

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brain and how the brain processes and stores and repurposes

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information and how we're hardwired,

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most of us, a certain way, but yet we're all we're we're

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wired differently through experiences. So meshing that together, the

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neuroscience of that is how can you,

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take your superpower, your innate wiring, and and

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and and put that more to work for you because it's easy. Right?

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And then how can we shift those things like what happened when we were five

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and seven and that that they're they're still trying to play

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the game. You know? It's like we're stuck playing chutes and ladders,

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and here we are, you know, in our thirties, forties, fifties, sixties, sliding back down

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the ladder again because we haven't learned to evolve. And so

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then I got trained in transformational meditation, which is what you and

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I did. And so I help people in the neuroplasticity

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to rewire, pull up those memories, set them straight. Most

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of them don't even know it's 2025. That's the part that's really fun. It's like,

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ask that part what year it is, and they'll say some decade old year. You

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know? It's like, oh, well, guess what? And so it's really fun. And then once

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you get those systems and those thoughts and those fears,

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doubts, and worries out of the way, then you can create a new

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right highway, a new pathway. And then you've got to

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live it. So it's not enough to know it. It's not enough to clear

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the path. Right? You've gotta drive that way, see what else is there

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now because now you're going a different way, and there's all these opportunities

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that weren't there before because you were stuck in those old patterns. So

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I love this work. I've been doing it twenty seven years, and

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it changes lives. Everything from helping people get over infidel

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infidelity. People. That too,

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actually, now that I think I did maybe. I did have one of

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those get a better SAT scores, you know,

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just lose weight, gain weight. You know? Just so

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many things because we're stuck in the in the thought

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that it's not possible for us even though we can see other

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people. It's like, oh, but I can't because so we

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get those I can'ts out of the way and put in the possibilities,

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what the what ifs in a good way. So, yeah, I can go on

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forever. So I'm gonna let you tell your story now. I love it. So

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what what I wanna tell everybody is I am not woo

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woo by nature. As as one spiritual healer said to me, you're

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really very linear. But I like I like

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processes. I like you know, because I had an unsettling

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upbringing. And so I defaulted

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to what is the objective solution as opposed to what is the

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emotional. You know. So that's why I gravitated towards math because one

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and one was always two, you know. I could get the answer

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right. Yeah. So I tell you that that but I do

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believe that there is forces outside of ourselves in a

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higher power, that bring us together in in ways

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there are things that we don't see that are there. I mean, I you know,

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we don't see gravity, but it's there. And so you kinda have to

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believe there's more than what you can see. So

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I think the first thing I would say is, you know, as I thought about

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this interview, I thought about it was interesting to

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me that several things happened

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prior to us working together. One

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of them, which was this new thing that I

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found that you're you don't need to be fixed. You just need to be

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found. And also the feeling of

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really kind of stepping into or wanting to step

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in my wanting to be found. Right?

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So when we did the work together, I came away

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with the feeling that I was on the right track and

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everything was okay. Nothing

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no fireworks, no bells or whistles kinda thing.

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But as I was thinking about this and thought about

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the meetings that I had after that

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and the meeting things that have happened in in less than a

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week, I found myself

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coming forward in a in in a much stronger way, a

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much more you know? It's like, okay.

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Because I think I have to tell you, I think I'm really a very

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strong woman. I think that I have an

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innate I mean, it it has showed up in really weird ways where I'll

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be someplace and find that a lot of people have

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gravitated towards me. Do you know? And

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people start, like, what are you doing that I'll be do you know? And I

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have never it's not that I'm so you know? Hey, everybody. I wanna you know?

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Do you know? It's it people, I think, are pulled towards me.

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So but I have, in my

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own preservation, kind of, always been at the back.

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I've always you know, it's like, I don't wanna overpower people. I don't

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wanna whatever. So it was been very interesting to me

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that in the last few days, I've really

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felt not consciously, but if I look back on the

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meetings, I have really stepped into my take charge

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ness. Do you know? It's like, okay, guys. Enough

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of that. We're gonna do this, or I'm really good at this. Or, you know,

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in my connection calls, I've really been

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saying, this is what I do, and I'm good at doing it. It's I've

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said it before, but I don't think I've said it with such energy. And the

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other thing that happened that to me is just like

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is I've had two people refer people to me

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that are like amazing opportunities. And instead of, you

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know, going you know, it's like, this is great. I'm ready for

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this. Let's go. Do you know? So Yes. You know, I think

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it's I think it was the perfect timing for me to meet

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you plus the work that you did to help me

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to get there. Yay. Yeah. I

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I feel real I I don't I can't explain it except that

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it is it is a a

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a bump up in confidence and energies. Is probably the way that

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I would say it. Again, no bells and whistles, but just this kind

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of calmness. I'm ready. I can do this. I'm good at what I

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do. You know? This I feel like

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the self doubt has really diminished. I mean, I think

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we all have self doubt to some level, and then when you step into something

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new, I think that's normal. But I have to

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say, I I feel a change.

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That is so wonderful. Thank you for sharing that. Couple of

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things. Number one, I was also drawn to you, like how you say people

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are just drawn to you. And, you know, our paths

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came together because we we spoke at the Pathways to

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Paydays Summit. And so I got, like, little bits of

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you, and I was like, no. That's not enough. Yvonne's not

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a bite sized kind of person. No. I'm

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not. I'm a meal. You are a meal.

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So we had to get together and do that. And, you know, when you're when

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you're saying it was like nothing super grand, I think what I was getting this

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image of in my head is, like, have you ever been standing in the shade

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waiting, you know, for your Uber or whatever? And it's, you know, it's

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kinda cold, and you realize, oh, if I just step over into the

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sun so there's the sun right here, and

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here we are in the shade, and and it's that easy

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sometimes Mhmm. Mhmm. To go, oh, you know, so many things

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are right in front of our eyes, and we're we're just so

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stuck in the way that we think that this is where you stand when you're

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waiting that we don't realize that's according to who.

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Yeah. According to whom. And and the thing

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that I would say, like, in my business, one of the things that I talk

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to people, what are you leaving on the table? When you change your

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focus and you start to see what uniqueness you bring,

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there are opportunities that have been there the whole time that

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you didn't think were worthwhile or that you could

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do. I mean, it's not that, you know, I'm coming up with totally

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new things. It's the things that were already there, but because of your lens

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or the angle you were looking at it, didn't make sense to you or

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didn't seem like it was something that you could do. So I I think

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that, you know, again, I think

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that these subtle shifts I mean,

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they're not subtle in a way. They're really earthquakes, but, you know, but

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they start out with the rumble, grow it you know, it's a rumble that grows

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into an earthquake. The result of it is earthquake worthy

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and and and big enough because it builds on each other. You you know, you

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meet something, you're more confident that person will refer you to somebody else or you

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help a client and you can help them be more confident and grow in a

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bigger way. And so, like I said, it would just

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you know, as I sat and thought about this this morning, I'm like, oh my

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god. I have had a great week. I have had all these successes. You

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know? And part of the success is that I

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think that I was willing to acknowledge that, like you said at the

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beginning, that I had some responsibility for it. If somebody

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had some success, it was because they had been with me.

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And, you know, that's always my goal is that people are better off for

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having met me than if they hadn't met me.

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Mhmm. So so before we get carried away, because this

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is a wonderful thing Yeah. Thank you. Tell

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us about your gift. Okay. I'd love

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to. So one of the the ways to

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introduce people to what I do is I like for them to understand the whole

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cognitive side of how we think and how we feel and what we do.

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Right? I don't just dive into the, you know, the neuroplasticity of it all.

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We gotta start with who do you think you are and why.

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So I have a it's called the success mindset scorecard.

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And what you do is you evaluate yourself on a sliding

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scale, and it's best done if you rapid fire

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answer those questions because you know how you can go. Well, it depends if I'm

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cold or hungry. You know what I mean? It's like, no. Just boom, boom, boom,

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answer those questions. And then they're they're they're you'll see they're

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grouped into, you know, like relationships,

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work, you know, personal, spiritual kind of stuff. And

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then you immediately will get your score,

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and it and it gives you an excuse me. It gives you an

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idea where your strengths are and where

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you need some support. And so either way, you meet

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with me, we go over it, and we either get you off and

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running because you're like, You know, there's ahas

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in there, and you're like, I got it. You know? Or it's like, I want

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you to stay with me, Elle, and hold my hand. This is new. I want

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it, but I want, you know, you to be there with me. So it

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it can go either way. However, no matter what, when you

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do that personal assessment, you go, and I

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feel like I'm one of the few people in the in if you say in

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the coaching realm, I'm a firm believer. Let's do

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more of what you're good at. Don't spend time trying

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to make you better in those areas where you're not, you know,

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innately. Because if you don't enjoy it, what's what's the point?

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Because you can hire somebody to do those types of

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things. You know, you can collaborate. You can so many things. So

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let's polish your real your brilliance, and that's what the

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scorecard's all about. Like, let's find where you shine and go from there. And,

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you know, that's that's exactly what you know, you don't need to be fixed. You

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need to be found. And and I often say to people, you know,

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if you're doing if you're doing the filing, you know, that's like

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hiring an MBA to to do your filing for you. When you could hire

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somebody filing, you can stay in your creative thing

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that you do. And so the

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other piece that I the other reason I think this is so important, the other

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reason that that I I wanted to bring you to my community

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is, as entrepreneurs, we're good

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at what we're good at. And so we are good at

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managing projects, you know, and, you know, what

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we do. But the first step before that

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really is knowing about yourself, managing, and leading

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yourself. And that's why so many programs start with a mindset

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or, you know, getting clear about what you're good at.

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And that's the part that so many entrepreneurs skip. And I

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think when you do that, you take the time

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to do that, it will skyrocket your business. It will be a jump

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start because it will take care of all the all the hidden anchors that

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you're dragging along with you so that you're free to take

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off. So, you know, I I

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hope everybody will take advantage of this incredibly

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generous gift and the this wonderful experience. So

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alright. So here's your trick trick question. When was the last

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time you did something new for the first time?

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So what's funny about that is there's a caveat. So I do

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a lot of new things, but here's the catch. Only after

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I've watched a lot of other people do them first,

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I'm not the first one. That's right. I neither am I.

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Neither am I. And so,

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however, extremely recently, I'm taking on singing

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lessons, and that's something that I've wanted

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to do my whole life. I've kinda dabbled in it a little bit,

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and, I'm I'm competitive by nature. You wouldn't know that

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I'm a closet competitor. But I would see other people

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do well with scales, you know, and the things that get you going in your

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singing lessons. And I just wasn't progressing, so I'm like, forget

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it. But now I'm willing to put in the work. It's

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like, if you want this, this is how you get there. And I found

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a teacher that works with your personality,

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not just your tonality, and I really loved that.

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So I'm taking singing lessons. So so

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when when when the student is ready, the teacher will come?

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Yeah. That's exactly what happened. Yeah. And and I

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feel like that that's what that's how I ran into you. We have so many

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similarities because I'm not I'm not, what what did they

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call that? A market leader. You know, you buy the first thing. I'm I kinda

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wait. I'm a tail end kind of person. I wanna see how it goes and

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and that kind of stuff. So, I'm I'm with you

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there. Alright. So Yeah.

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I I can't believe the time has gone so fast.

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Again, I just want I I guess there's three points

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that I want you to take away or, Al, three

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points that you know, one is you

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have innate abilities, and so you don't need to be fixed. You can

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collaborate and find other people to work with it.

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Two, when you can identify what your

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strengths are, that can help you put together a

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mosaic much better, and that's what your gift is gonna do. And you know what

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popped into my mind? There's I don't know the name of it, but there's this

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Japanese art where you you put something back

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together and, you know, you celebrate it for its imperfections

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and it's whatever. I should find that because I like that

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analogy. And three,

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you're always evolving, I think. And the more you

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evolve, the better you get and the more you

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can, you know, be set free to be yourself because you realize the

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world needs you the way you are, not the way somebody thinks

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you should be, I guess, is what I would is what I would say.

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And I I don't know if I missed anything or

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in summing that up. Yeah. What the what you are

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versus what people think you should be is stellar

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advice, but you've gotta know who you are.

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Some people don't know how to pull the blanket or you know what I mean?

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Get that's that's the true journey

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is who am I. And then as you evolve, you will

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continue to say who am I? Who am I? Who am I? And I love

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the power of I am, so be mindful whenever you say I am,

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whatever follows that is your truth. Yes. So stop saying I'm

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lazy or I'm unorganized or whatever those negative words. Just

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stop. You don't have to lie to yourself that doesn't work. You can't say I'm

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organized. Your brain's gonna go, who are you talking about? But you can just

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stop saying the negative thing and focus more on

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I am fun. I am vibrant. You know? I'm a great

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writer. You know? All those that define

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you, the power of your I am statements. It it

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can be scary to be yourself, but it is so

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rewarding when you realize that you

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the people that you draw to you value you for who you are.

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Yeah. Absolutely. Alright. I need to wind this up.

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Okay. We're having too much fun. But Too much fun. As

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always, as a first step, make sure that you download this

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gift because it is a generous one. Not only is it a generous tool, but

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a generous gift of time and expertise.

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And I also wanna make sure that you subscribe and share,

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this podcast with other people. And, you know, one of the reasons that

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I do this is to to help the community and give you new

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insights and new information so that, you can

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fuel your growth, you know, and and impact in the world. And so

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I hope that you will continue to join me with for the One Small Change

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as we embark on this journey, and you get to see how

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seemingly small changes can have a monumental transformation.

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And if you haven't listened to the first episode where I started, you should

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do so because, one, you'll see how diff how much better I am

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now, but but you'll also see what the premise of the show

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is and see some other people that you may not have seen yet. So,

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Elle, do you have any last words of wisdom for people to take

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away with them? I think the wisdom comes from the other

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side of the work that I do. Slow down and take a breath. We don't

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have enough oxygen in our body to function, so we're in, you

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know, survival mode. Slow down sometimes. Breathe before

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you respond. Right? Just take those

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bigger, longer, slower, deeper, more meaningful breaths and

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watch how easily things can shift. So there

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really is a scientific reason to stop and take a breath?

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Oh, absolutely. Yeah. You get more oxygen in the brain. You

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can get to the alpha level of consciousness where the ego's not running the show

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anytime you want. It's free. I have a model that

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says stop. Do you know? Before you do anything else,

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stop and ask yourself what's going

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right because it take it it turns you around from going to the the

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negative. So maybe now I should say stop, take a

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breath, and think about what's going right so they can be even better.

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Alright, guys. Our time is

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up. But as always, I want you to remember that change is simple,

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but it's not always easy. It takes courage,

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resilience, and a willingness to step out of your comfort zone. And

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so I hope that you will take this, you know, bit of information

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and and use it to do that. And I hope you will continue to

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join me on the one small change podcast as we embark on

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this on this journey, so that you see what other

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innovative possibilities are out there. Until the next time,

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stay curious. Elle, thank you so much for coming

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and for your great wisdom.

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