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What If It's About More Than the Baby? Living Out God's Heart for Adoption: Part 1 (+ Natural Solutions for Common Symptoms)
Episode 2331st January 2024 • Again • Entrusted Ministries
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As Christians we are called to love sacrificially and without limit. Listen to the beginning of a radical testimony in which Jen and her husband Eric love without a guarantee of a return, obediently following God's prompting. Jen also shares some of her best natural solutions to help families struggling with symptoms of discomfort or sickness.

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They're the joyful agains our children shout on the swings, the

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exhausting agains of cooking and laundry,

and the difficult agains of discipline.

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So much of what we do

as mothers is on repeat.

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So what if we woke up with clarity,

knowing which agains we were called

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to, and went to bed believing we

are faithful in what matters most?

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We believe God's word is

the key to untangle from the

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confusion and overwhelm we feel.

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Let's look up together to embrace a

motherhood full of freedom and joy.

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Thanks for joining us for this

episode of again, brought to

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you by interested ministries.

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I'm your host, Stephanie Hickox.

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And in today's episode, I'm joined

by Jen Frackman, as she shares an

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incredible testimony in which the

sovereignty of God is undeniable.

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And the love of Jen and Eric is displayed.

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In a most uncommon way.

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As they were longing for a

child to bring into their home.

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They chose to love women

in difficult situations.

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After I heard dental this story, the

first time I pulled her aside and said,

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I want to be like you, when I grow up.

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Jen is the type of person

that takes every blessing.

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The Lord gives her.

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And multiplies it

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she serves radically and

lovingly and tirelessly.

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And it's very evident in this testimony.

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We hope that you had a chance

to listen to our episodes.

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I'm the sanctity of life.

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The last two weeks.

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And these episodes will continue

to focus on the dignity that

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God has given each human being.

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And this unique testimony where the child

matters so much, but the mother does too.

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We hope it inspires you to love radically.

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And to have

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I just to see how you

can serve our savior.

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Where he has placed you.

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As promised Jen kicks off

this episode with some really

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helpful natural solutions.

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Some I had definitely heard of and

used before and some are new to me.

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Although we hope everyone's staying

healthy in your house we know

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that winter sickness is so common.

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So I hope you and your kiddos find some

relief and some help through these tips.

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Steph: All right, Jen, in our homeschool

community, you are known as Nurse

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Freckman or Nurse Jen to some of us, and

even our kids know when we have questions

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about what to do that you will have.

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A great solution.

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And what I love is so often it's

something that I already have in

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my home or something, that I feel

really great about giving my kids.

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So, I would really love it if you could

guide us through a couple symptoms

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and say when my child starts to feel

this, this is what I turn to first.

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Let's start with ear pain.

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I think that's such a tricky one

because we can't see it, right?

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Jen: Yes.

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Steph: I've been very tempted to buy an

otoscope or something just so I can see.

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They're telling me it hurts, but it

could be so many things or even when

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they were little, my kids, I would

go to the doctor and they'd say, oh,

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they have an ear infection, but my

kids would say their ears didn't hurt.

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I think it's such an elusive one, so,

if one of your kids comes to you and

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says their ear hurts, what do you do?

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Oh,

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Jen: Dr.

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Mom.

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You can get them on Amazon.

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I think they're like 15.

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And I would look, even when

my littles were very little, I

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would just look in their ear.

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a number of different times throughout

a day or the week, just to get to know

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what their ears look like normally.

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And then as their ears started to have

ear infections or ear pain, I would

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know what looks differently for them.

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And so, you can tell, I'm not a doctor,

so none of this is medical advice, but

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Steph: we have to have

the caveats, don't we?

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Jen: Exactly.

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But you can tell, if there's

redness or just different things.

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So I would, I would look in their

ear with one of those scopes as well.

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And then I would also depending

on what it was you can get little.

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Eardrops of moulin oil.

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I believe that's how you pronounce it.

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And garlic oil, warm garlic oil.

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I've even made my own where I just crush

up some garlic and let it very, very

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slowly simmer on the stove top to get

it warm and then let it cool until I can

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put it on my wrist and it's not at all.

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Warm or too hot.

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And then I would just

drop that in their ear.

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Sometimes I'll do a warm salt sock where

I take like really coarse Himalayan

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salt and I put it in a clean sock.

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No, the most important part

is the clean sock part.

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And then I'll take it and either put it

in the warming tray or on the stove top

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and just heat it up a little bit and

get it warm and put that on their ear.

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And that soothes it very quickly and

well, and just helps blood flow go to

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that area because of the heat, drawing

the heat there increases blood flow.

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Depending on if they have a cold,

then I, might do a neti pot for

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them to help them get their sinuses

so that that gets out of their.

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Nasal passage.

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Also, I would lift the back of their

ear there's a bone right behind

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your ear a large circular bone.

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And I would rub that and then press

down as I rubbed and go down their

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neck, and that would just help.

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drain, whatever is in there.

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And it would usually feel good to them.

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So those, those are the things

we do for like ear pain.

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Steph: I still remember a friend

saying, yep, I walked into Jen's house

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and she had socks in a frying pan,

and I was like, ooh, tell me more.

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Jen: yes,

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Steph: So yep, so I've tried

it and it works amazingly.

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I've used Epsom salt usually but it,

it definitely does have to be coarse.

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You're right.

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Otherwise, it's a mess.

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And you have to watch it to make

sure you don't cook too long.

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Jen: Yep.

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Steph: and the garlic oil

drops are really helpful.

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I've done mixing melaleuca with lavender

and coconut oil and just rubbing

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that around the outside of the ear.

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And that's really helpful too

and, something I already have.

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Jen: Yes.

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Steph: I love that you studied your

children's ears, and they're healthy and

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that's so wise to get a baseline, right?

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Jen: it helps so much because, and

everybody's ear looks differently.

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Like I didn't, I had never looked

into an ear before, so I didn't know.

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And then I was like, Oh,

this is your normal ear.

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Okay.

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And then just recently Josiah had a really

bad ear infection and I could see Oh

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my goodness, this is, this is inflamed.

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I can see why you're in pain.

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And yeah, it was pretty cool to see.

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The inflammation go down and to see the

things that we were doing helping and

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we never had to take them in for it.

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So that was nice.

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Steph: that's great.

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And most ear infections are caused

by a virus and not a bacteria, right?

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Even though they're commonly treated

with antibiotics, that's not going

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to kill what's causing it usually.

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Jen: Yep.

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Steph: so it's helpful to have something

that will provide relief as you're

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waiting for those germs to be defeated.

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Jen: Yeah.

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Steph: What about if one of your

children has a bruise or a bump or

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hurts themselves in some sort of injury?

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Jen: Yeah.

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Our favorite is Arnica gel and they have

topical cream that you can put on or even

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when that's it dries really quickly cause

it has like alcohol in it or something.

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So we just rub that on and that really

does help a lot that's my favorite.

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You can also get little borion tablets

of arnica that they can take internally.

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They're like little tiny itty

bitty little circle balls that

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they just put under their tongue

and that goes right into their

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bloodstream and , that helps as well.

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But topically, I don't

know if it's what it is.

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It just helps them.

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I don't know how it works.

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I just know it does.

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Steph: The palettes, it's so funny because

some of the Latin names sound like,

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this sounds like hocus pocus, argentum

natricum, and you're like, I feel like

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you're saying I'm tricking myself, but.

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I, I've taken them myself even, for

like dental pain or something like

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that and you're like, well, even if

it's a placebo, it's working, like

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I feel better, so I'm okay with it.

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Sore throats are quite

common this time of year.

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What is your remedy for that?

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Jen: I love Manuka honey.

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Really good quality Manuka

honey lemon essential oil.

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If you just take it and put it in

right back wherever that soreness

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is, there is something to that that

just quickly can take that away.

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Throat coat tea is one

of my favorite teas.

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I, I actually like the flavor of it.

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Some people.

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It's not their favorite, but I enjoy it.

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That really does help a lot.

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And B propolis spray is

my ultimate favorite.

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We will spray that and just get it back

as far back in the throat as you can.

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And those typically will

soothe and help whatever that

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irritable sore throat thing is.

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If I feel it is strep, then I take

it a little bit more seriously and

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I'll either go get it checked to see

if it is strep and then I know what

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to do with different homeopathic

or different natural antibiotics,

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like oregano or garlic oil or.

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Colloidal silver, whatever

it is that we want to do.

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But I don't like to mess

around with straps, so.

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I will get them tested for that usually.

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Steph: Sure.

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Great.

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we've tried bee pollen, but I've

never tried the bee propolis spray.

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That's interesting.

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Jen: Yeah.

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It's super helpful.

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That's actually one of my favorite sprays.

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Steph: It's exciting to try these things.

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You don't want your kids to get sick,

but you, you want to see this stuff work,

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Jen: yes.

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Yes.

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Steph: Okay, and what about stomach aches?

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Okay.

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Jen: that's huge because.

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Whatever it is their body's having a hard

time digesting, it will help assist their

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body and into digesting whatever that is.

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Digestive enzymes help

activated charcoal, that helps.

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You can even take a capsule of that and

open it up and put it in grape juice

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and shake it up and have them drink it.

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They don't need a lot.

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A little goes a long way.

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Magnesium, typically, if they're,

constipated, then I will give them

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magnesium, give them a magnesium bath.

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Magnesium is best absorbed transdermally,

so having lotion or a bath or rubbing

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lotion on their tummy, that will help as

well but also taking magnesium, whether

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it's a drink or a pill, something like

that, to get some of that moving for them.

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We also love castor oil packs.

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Anytime they have a tummy ache and

it just comes out of nowhere and I

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don't really know what to do, I'll put

castor oil on organic flannel cotton

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and then I tie it around with a,

just a organic bow thing that I have.

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It's like a ribbon and we'll put a heating

pad over top of it for a little bit and

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let that sit on their tummy for a while.

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And most often that

will take the pain away.

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Steph: Wow.

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Castor oil also works best transdermally

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Jen: Yeah.

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Yeah, I have only used it on

topically, so I haven't taken it.

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I, I'm sure that there's things you can

do, but I haven't researched that as

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much, but topically it will increase blood

flow and it will reduce inflammation.

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And so it takes pain away and

it does work relatively quickly.

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Even for things like tummy aches,

headaches Olivia had a migraine this

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afternoon and I put Some on her forehead

and the heating pad on her forehead.

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And she said, mom, it feels so much

better, but it didn't take it away

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completely, but it did reduce the pain.

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Steph: That's excellent.

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Thank you, this is so helpful.

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And like I said, it always

brings me such peace to have

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things in my home that I can do.

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Historically, my kids always

get sick 10pm on Friday night

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Jen: Yes.

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Steph: and you're like, the

doctor's office isn't open!

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And then you think, do I really

want to take my little child into

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an ER or an urgent care so, having

things we can do at home is so nice.

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Jen: Yeah.

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Steph: And then often it's resolved

by Monday morning anyway, and then

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Jen: Yes.

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I know.

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Children do not get sick 9

to 5 Monday through Friday.

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It just doesn't work.

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It's like any off hour is

when they're going to get it.

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Steph: Yeah, for sure well, thank you

so much super helpful then we'll come

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back to you for more tips on just what

you use naturally to clean your house

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and Thieves Spray and everything, and so

we want to hear about all those things.

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but I'm very excited for you to be able to

share this beautiful, amazing God story of

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the adoption of your daughter, literally,

the first time I heard it, you told

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it at a mom's night for our homeschool

community that night went late, we talked

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really late and I think I got home at 1.

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30 in the morning and the

whole drive home, I was just

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like, Lord, that is amazing.

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And I had goosebumps as you were

telling it and I wanted to wake my

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husband up and tell him the story.

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It was just so hard to keep it in.

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You have to hear what God did.

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When he was like, how was it?

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And I was like, I have

to tell you, it's okay.

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If I have to tell you again in the

morning, but isn't this amazing?

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Jen: I love that.

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Yeah.

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Steph: sovereignty is undeniable in this.

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And also as I've seen

you parent your daughter,

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your thoughtfulness.

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And even the language

that you use with her.

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I think that'll be so helpful for other

moms, if they're caring for foster

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children, or if they have adopted

children, or even thoughtfulness for

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any child to think about what experiences

have you gone through, and how can I

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parent you how you need to be parented,

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very excited for you to

share all of this wisdom

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So let's dive in.

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Tell us all about the story of how

your daughter came into your family.

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Jen: I love it.

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Okay.

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So Eric and I, we wanted to have children

early on in our marriage and we got

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pregnant and quickly had a miscarriage,

I think at 10 weeks and I was devastated.

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It was shocking to me.

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I did not even have that on my radar.

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I had had two sisters who

had never had that before.

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I didn't really know very many women

who had had a miscarriage before.

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And so it just blindsided me

and I just was so hurt by that.

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And so, just saddened

and grieved through that.

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But also just felt the

Lord saying it'll be okay.

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But just trust me.

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So, that happened and then.

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We actively tried to get pregnant

and it took us another three

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years before we conceived Olivia.

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And that three years was

a very hard trying time.

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It was it was very hard.

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Every single month it was

a constant no, no, no, no.

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You're not pregnant, not pregnant.

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I just remember, getting so excited

thinking like anytime I would

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feel a little bit nauseous, I'd be

like, Oh, maybe I'm pregnant again.

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And well, no, I'm not

actually, it's just hormones.

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And so I had been seeing a mentor

early on in our marriage, Eric

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and I both were mentored by older.

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Transcribed Men and women, and my mentor

was an absolutely amazing godly woman

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who I just love so much and I owe so

much of my walk with the Lord to her

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because of where and how she steered

my heart and my pain through that.

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And she would constantly bring me back

to that Jesus is the gift, that pregnancy

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is not the gift you're looking for.

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Nothing else is the gift except Jesus.

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You, if you have him, you have

enough and you need to be okay

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having just him and not having

that thing that you want so badly.

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Once you're content, not that God

would do it right when I'm content,

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not that, but once you're content,

you'll understand how God is enough.

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And you're not content right now.

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So you need to keep praying on this.

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And so she was pretty adamant with

me that I needed to just continue

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to lay this before the Lord.

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And I'm so thankful because

there is so much hurt in that.

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It's a constant letdown every single month

and getting your hopes up to be just.

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Defeated.

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And I just think of that verse that says

hope deferred makes the heart grow sick.

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And that's what we were going through.

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So, we decided at the time that

we didn't want to focus on us.

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We wanted to get busy serving the Lord.

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And so we just prayed about it and

said, Lord, what would you have for us?

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While we wait for you to Lord willing

answer our prayer, what do we do

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to make ourselves not be focused

on just our pain and ourselves?

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And what can we do to serve you?

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Excuse me.

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So we signed up with Safe

Families for Children.

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It's through Lydia Home in Chicago here.

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And I remember the very first meeting

we sat through, I was bawling my

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eyes out and I felt like the angels

in heaven were like, Oh this is

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why, this is why you were born.

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Like you need to do this program.

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And I handed in my

paperwork the next morning.

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I literally like All the paperwork they

gave me, I filled it out that night.

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The next morning, I faxed it over.

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This was a while ago

when faxing was normal.

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And within three days, we had our

first safe family son in our home.

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And so that was, it's like very

short term, like months ish foster

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care, but it's before kids would

go into the foster care system, but

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that's just the way that people would

understand it is by saying foster care.

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So we would take on kids and it

served our hearts for that longing to

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have a baby or a child in our home.

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It served the child and the.

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The birth mom, because we got to

understand how we could care for this

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child who wasn't our own and who didn't

have the parenting styles that we were

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going to have, or it didn't have the

background that we were raised with.

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And so we learned.

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So much through that.

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It was invaluable.

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It really felt like we started to

understand this like underground

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world of the foster care system

that we didn't know existed.

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We didn't, we were not made privy to

much of how the foster care system

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works and how how to handle birth

moms, how to handle Kids who have gone

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through trauma and some even who were

drug addicted and just, it was a deep

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dive into caring for little ones and

we poured our hearts out into that.

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And I will never forget there was one

time that we had a, a son or a foster

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son in our home and the mom was going

to come and do a meeting and She was

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going to have a home visit with him and

it was Easter Sunday morning and She

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was going to come visit church with us.

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And she said that that

sounded like so much fun.

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She wanted to join us.

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So we were going to meet her at church

and we were waiting and waiting.

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And finally I went out, stepped outside

and called her and said, what's going on?

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And she's Oh, I'm, I'm really sorry.

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I can't come this morning.

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I actually just got an

abortion, so I won't be there.

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And I started just.

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Crying.

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I just, I was like,

wait, what you serious?

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And she was like, yeah.

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And I was like, well, how are you feeling?

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And she's I'm fine.

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I just, I just don't feel it coming.

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And I was like, okay.

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So we hung up and I just wept.

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I wept and I just felt

God, what are you doing?

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Like of all the people that we could

have in our home and all of the birth

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moms that we could have, you gave us

one who just aborted their baby when.

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We are struggling to get pregnant,

like that just felt so cruel

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to me and it was, it was hard.

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It was very hard.

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And I just remember being like, Oh my

goodness, how do we, how do we help

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these moms before they get to that point?

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Steph: Right.

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Jen: It was really hard.

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So we decided that we were just

going to continue to trust the Lord.

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And we were going to take in as many

kids as we could and we were going to

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love them well and not only love them

well, but love the moms well, I felt

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very convicted that one of the things

I loved about this program is we got to

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have relationships with the birth moms

and we got to mentor them as much as we

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could and, and as much as they would allow

some moms just, And so we would just,

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tell them we're praying for them and let

me know how we can serve you in any way.

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And they, they wouldn't accept

any of it and that's okay.

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But the ones that wanted it, they,

they soaked it up and I didn't know

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that the Lord was preparing us so

well for dealing with birth moms

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in the future, being an adoptive.

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Parent.

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But God was using all of that.

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He was using every ounce of that

and training us and giving us wisdom

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and knowledge that we would never

have been able to have apart from

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serving through Safe Families.

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And just being able to love those

moms, see them with dignity and honor.

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And I don't think very many people

will look at them that way because

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their child's in the system and

so they have marks against them.

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But There was one birth mom that we were

helping who was in a domestic violence

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situation and we tried to help her get

a home and so we had to get her out

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of the domestic violence situation.

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It was like midnight and we went down

to the inner city and I just remember

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being like, don't stop at any stoplight.

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Just run them all.

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Let's get there and get out.

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Don't stop.

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It was so scary.

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And went into this.

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And we got her out and we brought

her all the way out to Elgin, which

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is like a, probably an hour and 10

minute drive from where she was.

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And we dropped her off at a like

a domestic violence shelter there.

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And we gave her our number and

we were like, we are with you.

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We will help you, but we needed

to get you in a safe place.

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And so we took her kids home

with us and she stayed at the

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shelter and all that to say.

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For months and months, we did everything

we could in our power to help her get a

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job, to get a home, to get situated, to

get housing and, and just so much work.

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And so, so often I found myself

looking back being like, when I

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would see a homeless person on

the street and saying they were.

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Looking for a job or looking for money.

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I'd be like, just, go

to, go to McDonald's.

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There's, there's work,

there's work out there.

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You just need to go get it.

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And then we helped this mom

who needed to get a job.

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And they were like, okay, we

need your number to call you.

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And she's well, I'm staying in

a domestic violence shelter.

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And so we would literally give.

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Our number, our cell phone

number on the application, and

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they would call and ask for her.

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I'd say, one moment, and then I'd

quick call the shelter, get her on

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three way and be like, please hold.

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And we'd do a three way call just so

that they didn't have to know that she

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was in the domestic violence shelter.

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It was, but it's things like

that you don't think about.

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When you see these kids and it's easy

to be judgmental of the mom, like,

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why can't you get your stuff together?

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Why did your kid get taken

away or whatever it is?

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It's so harsh and so

judgmental and we have no clue.

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And so the Lord was just really humbling

us and peeling back the judgmental layers

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that we didn't even realize we had.

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We didn't know, but we also didn't

know how hard that was and how many

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believers that stood behind her.

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Trying to help her get

all these things done.

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And she had a support system because

we love the Lord and we had, we had a

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support system of family that helped

and friends that helped and the church.

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There was so many people that helped

this woman get along and get out.

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And And it worked and she

does, she's, she did wonderful.

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She did great, but it took that much work.

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And so I tell that story just to say

the Lord was working in us during that.

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And he was using that time, those three

years to prune us and to, to get us ready.

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Steph: And to be a blessing to so

many it's really beautiful how

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selflessly you used your time.

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Jen: Thanks.

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So,

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Steph: already made me cry once.

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Jen: So fast forward, we did get

pregnant with Olivia and that was

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amazing and wonderful and so grateful.

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The Lord just answered

our prayers so, so well.

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And I do remember getting to the

point where I said to my mentor,

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if God allows us to get pregnant,

it is because God is so good to us.

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If God doesn't allow us to be pregnant,

it is because God is so good to us.

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And it was within a month and I was

pregnant and, and I don't think that,

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I don't think I could will myself

there okay, now I'm good to see this.

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Like the Lord had to work

me into the point of that.

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And I'm so grateful he did.

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I'm so grateful he did.

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So then we had two other babies and still

felt that our home was not complete.

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Our, our life was not complete.

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We knew that we had wanted to adopt.

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And so we always wanted to adopt and we

just figured, well, we know that there's

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a need out there because we do say

families and, and we've seen the desire

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and the need for adoptive families.

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So we'll just adapt through.

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Something like that, maybe through

the foster care system or something.

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And I had had two sisters

who had adopted as well.

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I have one niece from India one

from, I don't know why I'm getting

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choked up talking about them.

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One niece from India, one from

Guatemala one from Columbia and, I

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just watched my sisters go through

that adoption process and how much they

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trusted the Lord and how much they.

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loved those children, even though they had

never met them and how their hearts ached

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to be with them, even though they had

never met them and just seeing, a picture

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and then waiting and going and meeting

them and then having to wait a month,

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two months, a year to get them back.

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And we just felt called

to domestically adapt and.

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Having gone through the foster care system

and the safe families, we felt very called

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to adopt with an open adoption where we

could know the mom as best as we could.

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And so we decided that that's what

we were going to do, that we were

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going to adopt domestically, even

though that scared us, the US laws

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scared us the cost of it is not great.

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There were a lot of things

that it was like, well.

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I guess we'll just trust the Lord in this.

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I don't know how this is going to go, and

I don't know how long we're going to have

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to wait, but We'll just trust the Lord.

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Well, one night I woke up in the

middle of the night and I had a

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idea that I believe the Lord just

gave to me to send out postcards.

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And search for birth moms

through sending postcards.

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And I did not know exactly how

that was going to work or how my

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husband was going to take that idea.

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But I just trusted the Lord.

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And I was like, all right, babe, I think I

have an idea as to how we can find a baby.

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And he was like, what?

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And I said, I think we're supposed to send

a postcard with our name and our family

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information on it and just send it out.

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And he's to where?

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And so I was like, well, anywhere

where a woman in need would be.

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And so I Google searched anywhere

where a woman in need would be.

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I did inner city laundromats.

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I did domestic violence

shelters in the inner city.

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I did high school guidance counselors.

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I sent them there anywhere

that I could think of.

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I had some in my purse.

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I had some anywhere that we would

go where there might be a woman.

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And on the front, I had a picture of

our family and on the back I said, Hey,

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we're looking to adopt and we would love

to have a preborn to two year old little

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girl and we want to have an open adoption.

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We would love to Know the birth mom as

and mentor her as much as she's wanting

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to and to be a part of our family as Best

as we can do that And so if you know a

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woman in need give her our information

and give her this postcard and she can

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contact us so I had 500 printed and I

sent out a batch of I believe it was 50

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And I prayed over every one of them as

we're mailing them and addressing them.

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And as I sent them out, one of my

dear friends said, there's a maternity

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home that opened up in downtown

Chicago that you should send it to.

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And I was like a maternity home.

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I didn't know that they had those.

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That sounds amazing.

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So I found the number and I.

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The address and I sent one

to this maternity home.

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Well, literally from Day one, when

I sent the first postcard, 12 days

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later, I've got a first phone call

and I know, I know it was nuts.

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And that was from this maternity home.

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She said, we just got your postcard

and we've never done this before.

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We don't usually do this.

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But we have a birth mom who

came in and our home is filled.

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We have too many moms and we have

to turn her away and I cannot

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stand to turn someone away.

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And she goes, ironically, this morning

in the mail, I got your postcard

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and she is coming this afternoon.

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And I didn't know what

I was going to tell her.

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And I'm calling you to see if I

may give her your information.

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And I was like yeah,

that's the reason I get

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Steph: that

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Jen: sent those.

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So I said, yes, please.

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I would love for you to do that.

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And she said, I just can't

believe this because I know she

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is pregnant with a little girl.

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And.

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She, I just, I can't believe that

the Lord is working this out and

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I, I said, yes, please send it.

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And she goes, would you do me a favor?

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Will you keep me in the loop

as to what happens with this?

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And even if it's not this, would you

just let me know what happens with you?

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And, and how, and I

said, yeah, absolutely.

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So I know it was really so sweet.

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So fast forward the next day I got

a phone call and It was, would you

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believe, Easter Sunday morning.

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And I just am like, Oh Lord, you

are so, you redeem everything.

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And years prior on Easter Sunday

morning, I got a horrible phone call.

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And then this Easter Sunday

morning, I got the best phone call.

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And it was from a birth mom who, I was

looking to place her baby in adoption,

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but wanted to meet with us first.

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All right, I'm sorry, but

I'm going to have to stop us.

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We've got a lot more story to tell.

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So please come back next week

and the next to hear the rest

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of this incredible testimony

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we hope that you are really

blessed by the natural solutions.

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Jen shared at the

beginning of the episode.

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And we pray that you have the eyes to see.

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And the heart to serve wherever

the Lord calls you today.

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He is with you mama.

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And just a reminder, if you've

been blessed by the podcast, please

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head over and give us a review.

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This is so helpful to us because

then the platform you're listening

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on is more likely to recommend this

podcast to other moms that are seeking

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to serve the Lord in

their homes and beyond.

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Steph: We know you're busy, Mama,

so we are truly grateful you joined

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us for this episode of Again.

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If you're looking for more information

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foundation of Jesus Christ, head to www.

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This scripture saturated study

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world, and we want it for you, too.

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Before you go, I want to pray

this benediction over you

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from 2 Thessalonians 1, 11 12.

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We're rooting for you.

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To this end, we always pray for you,

that our God may make you worthy of His

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calling, and may fulfill every resolve

for good, and every work of faith by

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His power, so that the name of our Lord

Jesus may be glorified in you, and you in

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Him, according to the grace of our God.

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And the Lord Jesus Christ.

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Amen.

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Until we meet again.

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