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This is episode two of the Ayurvedic Prepper series.
So the first podcast in the series, we talked a little bit about, home protection, not a lot, but a little bit. And we’re going to talk more about home protection in, in an upcoming podcast, but I want to get into —
In order for an ayurvedic prepper, actually all preppers, but mainly ayurvedic prepper - cause there’s a lot of preppers that are just, wow, especially in this one.
01:57 But an ayurvedic prepper is you want to make sure you take care of the three things of survival. And one is shelter. Two is food and three is water.
So if you aren’t prepared with those three things, you are going to think about survival, your brain will not go into thrive mode, it’s only survive mode. So if you, if something bad happens, which it will, because it is, you know that you have shelter, you know you have food and you know that you have water.
So the first podcast we talked about it a little bit, the shelter, this one, I want to talk about food because we do this one constantly. So if we’re traveling, if we’re in the mountains, if we’re on the beach, if we’re in a train, if we’re on a plane.. Wherever we are, we always make sure that we have food that will last us several days, if not longer.
03:10 And ayurveda — because I just read this from some interesting person out of California, who is an Ayurvedic practitioner, said, in order to thrive, you should never eat, leftovers, and you should never eat food in a can.
And I know that ancient ayurveda always talked about never eating food in a can because they had lots of cans, right? Or food from a bag.. Oh yes. Yes. Because they always had, they had bags. I remember in one of the first books of ayurveda, they talk about not eating groceries from your refrigerator.
But where did this come from? Because it doesn’t make sense that you have to throw out your leftovers.
Exactly. Yep. So ayurveda, back to, is a, is a blueprint, gives us the big picture of how to thrive, right, the traditional ayurveda, which means it’s not set in stone, because the context is different.
When ayurveda was documented, the real ayurveda, before 500 AD, they didn’t have the refrigeration that we have today, right? And they didn’t have the processes of developing packaging, right? That we have today.
In fact, that wasn’t until, the, almost the early 19 hundreds.
Exactly. Exactly. So, yeah, even in the whole industrial revolution is what gave us the ability to preserve food, right?
Yeah. Because back in the, even the 18 hundreds, you didn’t want to eat a day old meat because it would have killed you.
Exactly. Or fish or all of that. So, so yes, leftovers, you shouldn’t even be going near them, the days that Ayurveda was documented. Full of stuff that will kill you. Exactly. But that’s the, that’s how, even how granola came about, right? Because the leftovers were causing dysentery.
And Kellogg’s created good grains that were better than bad meat. And that’s why the people were feeling better. So history of food shows why way back then you didn’t want to eat leftovers, but today leftovers are perfect.
Exactly. So the other thing is that, the whole canned food or food out of a bag, can be the way that they phrase it. One of the things they say is that it has no prana, sounds cute, right? Prana, as in life force.
It actually sounds more mystical.
Because no food has prana when it’s dead. Plants don’t have prana when they’re dead.
No, nothing has, there is no life force, right? Life force. So something that is dead has no life force, right. So, they say canned food or food out of a bag has no life force, as opposed to, raw food or freshly cooked food that has life force.
07:00 Well, and I am going to agree to some degree that fresh hamburger that just came from moo-cow is a lot healthier for you than canned food. But that doesn’t mean that canned food is bad for you.
But it doesn’t have anything to do with the life force, as in that thing, it’s not alive any more. So, what truly, what food gives you is, food gives you energy, right?
Food is information. That’s what food is in reality. If you want to call it life force, call it life force, I have no problem with that. It is actually your life force.
But don’t say that this freshly cooked food has life force as opposed to something that’s still nutritious that comes out of a bag because it has been packaged there with love and great intention to give you energy.
Now I do have a question because you just said two things that are contradicting.
First, you’re saying that ayurveda says that canned food has less life force than fresh food, say a salad. Yes. But, but then ayurveda also says don’t ever eat a salad because salads are bad on your gut.
So there’s a lot of lies in people, and if you look at what ayurvedic practitioners say, they’re not giving good information. They’re not giving information that if you look at, you will say that makes no sense.
Freshly cooked food is not the same as raw food in reality, but it’s being presented as the same. They’ll say freshly cooked food, raw food, natural food as opposed to canned food or food out of a bag.
So also you see a lot, raw food placed in a bag, right. In vegetables. So what do you want me to do with that? So some practitioners will say, oh, this food is fresh, the packaging is better, you can eat it. Some others will tell you, oh no, it’s still packaged, it has still lost its life force, don’t eat it. Well, the bottom line is that traditional ayurveda says don’t eat raw food. That’s the bottom line, because it’s bad for your gut. And we see that today. Science proves it. So the packaging doesn’t somehow take the life force away from the food, right? Or, gives it life force. There is a lot that’s going on, that has nothing to do with traditional ayurveda.
So, I want to come back, do a little break here and come back and talk more about now, how to ayurvedic prep with food. Now that we’ve said how much ayurveda is wrong, at least the commodity ayrveda is wrong. And, we’ll get into what you can do to stay healthy and thrive no matter what’s happening to you — that actually makes sense in English.
11:34 And we’ve got a lot to say, so a plastic container in the fridge that has spinach in it is better for you than a frozen spinach in a freezer - that’s what they would tell you.
But, but they’re both picked same time. One’s quick frozen. The other sits for days. And then most people eat it raw and it screws up their stomach or they get salmonella from it.
Yeah, exactly. So, yeah.
So the concept of a lot of the commodity ayurveda actually is making people sicker and I’m not sure if it’s a conspiracy to make money, to control - or, or peak stupidity — or yeah, they just don’t know and they don’t want to learn. Yeah. But that’s a whole another podcast too.
So we do have canned food, we don’t eat it every day. But we do keep canned food and we keep canned food that’s nutrient dense. We keep canned food that we would eat. Now we eat spam, on occasion, and I know, oh my God, spam terrible. Look at what’s in it. Look at the process and look at the people that are in a blue zone that eat spam daily. When we’re in Okinawa, spam is all over the place, and Okinawa’s blue zone. And everybody says it’s all vegetarian or vegan there. The soup that is named after Okinawa has eggs and spam and pig and soy, and soy, but freshly made soy - exactly, not the genetically modified and almost zero vegetables.
And actually I think there was zero vegetables. It was hard to find vegetables there, because we didn’t stay in the American area, we stayed in an area that was actually very traditional. And it was very interesting. Oh, and they have spam sushi and they have spam this - in very pretty packaging.
So people that are living way over the age of a hundred eat spam. Yup. So now I’m not, again, I’m not saying that it’s, it’s the main staple. Exactly. But vegetables aren’t the main staple there either. And that’s where I want to get with is, vegetables are not really nutrient dense. No they aren’t.
You’ll have to prepare, some of the vegetables, if you prepare them in a particular way, they can have enough nutrients, but still they are not nutrient dense compared to other foods.
Yeah. So we do go and we get, we’ll go buy a half a cow. Yeah. We’ll go buy a pig. Yeah. we actually just picked up a lamb a couple of weeks ago.
14:54 So we do buy in bulk and toss it in the freezer. I was taught that from my parents. we had a huge freezer. We would go buy a cow or we would go by or not go by, but my dad would kill a deer, go hunting for rabbits. We’d have a whole bunch of rabbits in the freezer. So we always had food, even though we didn’t have a lot of money growing up, we always had food. I remember my dad would wake me up at three in the morning because somebody hit a deer and we would grind that thing up and put it in the freezer. So it was, it was nothing to have meat. And meat is very nutrient dense.
It’s a very nutrient dense type of food. And having meat, eating meat that has come a certain way, it is very, very good not just for you, but for your environment, it’s very good for the planet. And you said it, you know, the deer was hit right on the road and you actually getting the deer and preparing it and eating it, nose to tail as much as possible, is the best thing you can do for, for the planet for yourself and the planet. It’s so respectful.
It’s and that’s where in Okinawa also, that you mentioned Okinawa that they eat like that. Everything they eat, they do it with respect, respect and gratitude.
They were always very happy at the restaurants when we went there. And we were eating soup that had joints, joints and cartilage soup. Yeah. Because nothing had English on it. So we just pointed and whatever came to the table we ate. And every time we pointed at something, they brought it. And none of it was a salad.
No, no, and they were, and it was delicious food, they were bringing it so happily, and they were just happy to watch us eat it with so much happiness. Well, I’m a sight, I am a sight to watch when I eat.
So, so for us, one of the main things is getting the nutrient dense food in bulk and keep it frozen, because freezing it keeps it healthy for us. And then we take it out and we eat it. So that would be one of the first things we would suggest is if you can get a big freezer and buy meat in bulk. Or fish, if you have the opportunity.
Yup. because yeah, we get a lot of fish too. So, one of the things is, and we’ll put links to the place where we get meat from and the place we get fish from in the show notes, show notes.
18:10 But, I talk to all of our vegetarian and vegan friends and they eat every two to three hours, at the longest they eat every four hours and they constantly talk about being hangry. Is that the word? Yes, hangry.
Yes. Because they need, they need food, they need food, they need food. They can’t go, and this is what I want to go into next, before we talk about canned food, is they can’t fast very well. Not saying you can’t fast, but it’s more difficult if you fast on carbs versus fast on fat and protein.
Exactly. So the idea is that when you look at not having to think about survival on a daily basis — the idea is to be able to eat as little food as possible because it sustains you. That’s where the nutrient dense and diverse comes in. So if you have to eat every three to four hours, you cannot thrive because you’re constantly thinking about food.
Yeah, exactly. And one of the other things is — there’s a lot more work in dealing with the vegetables, every two to three hours, every four hours, because you’re constantly, how am I going to cook it, how am I going to eat it, and you’re always in — So if something does happen, what are you going to do? Because vegetables go bad pretty quickly. Yeah. You got to eat a lot of them to be able to maintain the calorie, caloric intake that you have to have, and you need a lot of, you just need a lot.
And so for, if you have good meat, you don’t need as much and you can go longer without it. So I know that ayurveda also talks about, and some people can do this, some people can’t do this, but ayurveda — 12 hours.
12 hours — In a 24 hour period, you always wanna leave at least a 12 hour window for your body to digest, absorb, assimilate, and cleanse. Because if you don’t leave at least 12 hours in a 24 hour period of no caloric intake, you can drink water, but no caloric intake, then your body is never going to be able to cleanse.
Excellent. We’ll be right back to talk about canned — canned what?
21:20 Canned meat — We do have some canned vegetables, but not a lot. We don’t want to over vegetablize. Yes.
21:30 So we see the prepper world, they talk about having like 30 pounds of dried beans. They have 30 pounds of rice. They have 80 pounds of lentils. And then you ask them — how you gonna eat that? And they’re like, basically if we really, really have to.
What and then you look at what is the - yeah, there’s a caloric aspect to it, but there’s not a nutrient - they are not nutrient dense. So, if you’re putting all of these beans and carbs, like lentils and stuff and things in your stockpile, you’re not going to eat them.
Yeah. And remember those things also, if you’re going to eat them, you have to prepare them the proper way. So would you, would they soak them over night, would they rinse them a few times, would they boil them enough?
They are not prepped. You have to work and you’re giving up your water, you’re giving up all these different things to get something that’s not that nutrient dense.
Now we have food that, we keep in cans and so some of the things that we will keep is, we have, what’s the meat that we get in a big - Keystone beef - Keystone and it’s a little salty, so don’t add salt - don’t add salt - but it lasts for like five to seven years in a can, and all it is is meat and salt and it’s sea salt, even.
So you’re getting a good piece of meat that was quickly cooked, quickly canned, and now you can eat it whenever you want. Now we’re not saying we eat this every day, but we do eat it on occasion and it isn’t bad. It’s actually quite good. We make it, we do the, sometimes I’ll make the hamburgers with a fresh hamburger or with some beans, refried beans, which refined beans are a lot better for you than beans and rice.
A lot easier on your gut. Yeah.
And we’ll have it with cream - yes, heavy whipping cream.
You don’t have to prepare it because it’s already been prepared. Exactly. So we keep the beans, we do have beans, but we keep them as refried because they’re already taken care of so you’re getting the least amount of anti-nutrients in it, so you’re getting the better nutrients and less anti-nutrients.
With that though, we do have rice, but it’s not a staple, we’ll add it to certain things, and it does last a long time. But we definitely don’t have five gallons of it or 50 pounds of it, or whatever those…
We treat rice as a dessert.
And then, tuna fish, we have tuna fish and salmon and we get that from the wild planet.
Also, the new company we’re going to be getting a lot of stuff from - the vital choice - yes and we’ll put a link for vital choice in there because they’re also a great, great seafood company. And they do have can, but I want to go after their other food too.
So, so those are things that you can keep in, and because we eat meat and because we eat fish, we add it to different things. I know for when we go traveling, when we’re teaching, especially when we’re doing a lot of the, sup yoga teacher trainings, I would make a couple of cans of tuna fish, put them up. And that was set up for us. We were healthy, we ate good, we had eggs, we had different things in there. Olive oil. And, it sustained us for the entire day. And we didn’t have to eat a lot. And we were able to teach a 12 to 13 hour day. And, it was easy for us.
25:41 Where if we were eating vegetables, you know, we had a lot of vegetables, we would have to be snacking throughout the entire day. In fact, we watched a lot of the students having to eat constantly.
Yes. The bags of carrots and nuts.
So canned food, if you are going to buy canned food and I would suggest having canned food on site, because it’s easy to store, you can stick it under your bed, if you want to. The only place you don’t want to do it is keep it in a hot area. You want to keep it in a cooler area because it’ll last longer. But, having 10 cans of say spam or Keystone, that is at least 10 days of food that you can go without having to cook and without having to prepare with water. So you can use that as a way of surviving while you’re thinking about thriving.
Exactly, exactly. The idea is you buy, the idea is to store food that you would eat on a good day in a regular world. And that’s why all of the foods that we talk about, we would eat on a good day in a regular world. So we would, we would never let it go bad because we cycle.
Yes. And like I said, in the beginning that we take this on trips, so we will load up a box of canned foods because who knows where we’re going to end up if we’re camping. So if we’re camping, we already have the shelter. Yes. So we don’t have to worry about any of that stuff. We have canned food, so we can decide to go longer in the woods, or longer wherever, we can stop anywhere. I know that, when we were teaching down in Weston, we actually lived at a rest area for a couple of weekends. But we, we had water in the truck, we had food that we prepared, actually I prepared outside of the classroom and we had the truck, which was set up as a, basically to sleep in. So we had everything. So while other people were worried about passing the class, we didn’t even have to worry about teaching the class because we didn’t have to even worry about food. We didn’t have to worry about those three things to survive. Yes.
28:30 Yeah. And that’s the whole concept of the ancient Stoics, right. When they said try to live every so often, without your regular shelter, without your regular food, even without your regular clothes, right.
Yep. Eat bread for a day. So you know that you can live off of it. And that’s what we’re getting at is, eat canned food for a day, just to see that you can literally live off of it. If you want to give it more energy, you can say some chants over it -
You can, yeah, you can do a mantra, you can do the Reiki symbol, you can - Why not just say, thank you to everyone who was involved - itadakimasu - in creating that food for you, in bringing you that can of nutrient dense food - everyone, mother earth, every aspect of mother earth and all the humans who actually were involved in you getting that food - the driver who drove the truck, the worker at the factory who helped package it - the engineer who created the machine to help package the can.
So, everybody’s involved in helping you thrive - it’s an energy exchange — and they’re thriving because you’re buying the food.
Exactly, exactly. It’s all an energy exchange. So the “itadakimasu” that you mentioned, we learned that in Okinawa, is a way that the Okinawans thank all the spirits who were involved in them being able to have that food and asking those energies to help them do the most with them so that they can thrive, and as part of their community thriving.
And just, one of the other things is we do keep, some like sauces and things like that, that we would eat. So you mix it with the food and it adds more flavor, it adds more nutrients, it adds more things, so you don’t have - I’m not saying eat a can of cold chicken or a can of cold pork.
But I am saying that if you keep things that you can mix and that’s, again, it’s about prepping ahead of time is you taste this meat with this sauce and all of a sudden you might find out, wow, that’s fricking delicious. And now it’s part of your staple of every day or every week. So you want to play with that canned food so that when something bad happens, because we were on the mountain, we lost power for a week. We didn’t have anything.
Now you can say, well, how’d you keep your freezer cold. Well, we have generators. And those are things we’ll talk about also, but you want to think of different things so that you thrive. You don’t have to worry. So today was mainly food. We’re going to go over some other things in the next podcast. But today, if you have food set aside that you know will taste good, that you will enjoy, that you’ll love eating with everything off (not clothes) but having everything going weird, you can literally be happy.
And then I want to just real quick say about the whole bug out system and bug out means that you have to grab stuff and run, because they’re coming to take your home away, coming to take my home, there’s a song.
But anyways, bug outing is if you have canned food, you can. Exactly. So I never suggest bugging out, but well, there might be a couple small things, but it’s one of those things that even if you have to bug out, you got food that will last.
32:52 You missed out on two of the important types of canned food. Go ahead, go ahead. Sardines and anchovies.
Yes, yes. Those things last forever, they give you omega-3s, they help your brain, they, especially the anchovies, I put those in a lot of different things. A couple little anchovies crushed up with your meat and your sauce, yummy.
Anchovies and sardines are amazing, it’s like taking, you know, supplementing with Omega-3s.
Yep. And I remember we were, what island, were we on? And - in Eleuthera, wasn’t Eleuthera, it was Andros, and there was nothing open. It was during Christmas time. And there was nothing open except for this little stand. And I’m glad we had brought some canned meats. We brought a little bit of tuna fish just, or sardines, just to have when we got there, traveling, because we don’t know if you get stuck at airports, but when we got there, nothing, the kitchen at the hotel was closed completely, no food anywhere. The whole island was shut down except for that little stand. And we lived off of mustard sardines. That was it. That’s all we had.
And they were delicious. And nutritious.
And that was it. That was it. And then remember when we went to Bimini that one time and it was completely closed down - we had no shelter - yeah we didn’t even have shelter. The hotel was gone. So there was no hotel, that we booked, the hotel that we booked was gone.
There was no food, the main place that we used to eat at was gone, somebody had burnt it down. So it was like this whole - what do we do? So we found shelter and we found food and we did live off of canned food again for a week and a half and had a great time. So it is the concept of - if you can figure out how to eat canned food, you can really have a really good time because we did. Exactly. And it didn’t affect us at all.
No. And it’s canned food, the right canned food with the right attitude about it can be very nutrient dense.
So I would like to say night night, because it’s way over our time.
Until next time, much, much love from both of us! Namaste kala! May we all be well, adapt and thrive!
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