00:00 Introduction and Announcements

00:15 Pastor Rod's Retirement Announcement

01:49 Listener's Question: God's Infinite Attributes

05:58 Discussion on Jeremiah 46-48

09:10 God's Judgment on Nations and Their Gods

16:20 Closing Remarks and Prayer

16:52 Outro and Podcast Information

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Welcome back to the Daily Bible Podcast!

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We're so glad you've joined us.

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And now your hosts,

Pastor PJ and Pastor Rod.

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Hey folks, it's that time

again and Pastor Rod is back.

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In Office slash studio with us.

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It is my retirement episode.

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It's after Pastor Mark

has done such a great job.

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I feel free now to finally

lay up the microphone.

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So thank you guys for

a wonderful few years.

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These are the last few episodes

I'm planning on doing Last few.

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That seems ambiguous.

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Because we have to finish the second one.

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We record two at a time.

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Okay.

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And I also have to coordinate with Pastor

Mark too to make sure our schedule works.

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So you like three or more I think is the,

alright, so I, it might be a couple more.

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Okay.

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A few more.

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Who knows?

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Two or three or four.

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Okay.

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Depend depending on the day and when

I can get Pastor Mark to take over.

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I accept your re your resignation and

I'm sure the audience does as well.

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So on, on their behalf.

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I'll just say accepted.

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Alright, dr.

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Mark, you heard it here?

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This is the first time he's hearing it.

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Actually, no.

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I texted him this morning, so

I commended him on such a job.

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Well done.

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'cause I listened to both the episodes.

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They were great.

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And I thought, you know

what, this is the time.

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This is it.

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It's his turn in the saddle.

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That's right.

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I don't know, I think people might have a

little bit of an, of a, of an opinion that

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they don't think you should step down.

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Steve Jobs once was asked why

he doesn't do customer surveys.

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And he answered, it's our job not to give

people what they want, but what they need.

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And he was so prescient because

he invented the iPhone, the iPod.

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All these things that we now take for

granted were the things that he said.

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Customers didn't ask for this.

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We gave it to them because we

thought they really needed this.

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And I think they were proven wise.

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I don't know, man.

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I think all of our Android users out

there they disagree with you just on,

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on principle based on that statement.

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They're wrong.

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We know that.

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And we still love them.

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No.

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Yeah, pastor Mark did great.

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But glad to have you back

in, in the in the studio.

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Thank you.

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On the on the podcast.

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And we have a question that was written

in by one of our our own, one of our,

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another young listener a young listener

who happens to work in the office.

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With us.

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That's right.

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And so she actually emailed in and said

she needs help understanding how God

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can have infinite characteristics and

attributes, and also in her words, not

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infinite characteristics and attributes.

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Took me a minute to understand

the line of questioning there,

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but then I think I got it.

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So she was arguing basically.

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How can God's patience, for example,

and that's the one that she used,

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how can God's patience be exhausted,

but his grace never be exhausted?

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How can we have God in her words

here, have his patience run out?

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And so that, that's the

question that she asked us.

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And how can we understand that

if he is eternal, how can he

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have some attributes that are.

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Unending and others that are not

unending, that seem to come to an end.

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For example, his patients.

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And I heard you answering the

question live a second ago with her

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as you were answering there, and I

think you and I are in agreement.

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So do you wanna kind of recap

what you told her there?

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I really wanna hear how you said because

I was, yeah, I was just talking to her a

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few minutes ago, but I would like to hear

how you would talk about it, and then I'll

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chime in for whatever I think is helpful.

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Yeah.

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The thing that I think is good for us

to remember is that the attributes of

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God, sometimes we clump descriptions

about God into attributes of God.

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We clump things that we would say God is.

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A God of patience.

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And yet we wouldn't say that God's

character is that he is patient.

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Patience is a manifestation

of his character.

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It's a byproduct of other

aspects of his character.

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God, when he identifies

himself as a God of mercy.

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He says that to Moses in Exodus 34.

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He says the Lord, the God, A

God merciful and slow to anger.

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So therein we see that his

patience is connected to his mercy.

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And so his patience is

not part of his character.

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The things that are part of

his character can never change.

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They can't exhaust themselves.

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They can't run out.

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They can't stop.

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But the byproducts, the manifestations

of his character the secondary

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impacts and effects of his character,

those things are malleable.

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That his patience, for example,

may run out with a people group.

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It doesn't mean that God

is no longer merciful.

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It doesn't mean that

he's no longer gracious.

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It just simply means that in his

interaction with them the byproduct

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of his character, his patience.

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Had a set amount of time as

he was interacting with those

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that are time bound creatures.

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And so he's revealing himself to us in a

way that we can comprehend and understand.

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And so his patience is able to be

exhausted, even though other attributes

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that are part of who he is, his

character essential to his being.

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Those things can never be exhausted.

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It is important not to think

about God as a human being.

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We can look at God and say it, it

feels like this for me, so I wonder

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if it feels like that for God.

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And here that's not the case.

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We might lose patience with people.

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Little people that run around our

homes perhaps, who put their hands

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on the walls and don't put things

back where they're supposed to be.

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You might lose patience

because you've had it.

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They're on your last nerve.

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You're, you lose control, so to speak.

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You're losing your ability

to hold your patience and to

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love the centers in your home.

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That's not the way God works.

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His is not oh, I've lost control.

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You've sinned this many times

and now I just can't stand it.

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I've gotta act in response to you.

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His is a measured.

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Clear response to his understanding of

the situation, which of course is perfect.

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It is reality.

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He's not interpreting

it as you and I would.

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His understanding of the

situation is perfect.

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It's clear and his response

is always just and right.

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That's the biggest difference.

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So when it comes to God exhausting

his patience, it's not like he's

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a gas tank and it went down to

the DRS and there's nothing left.

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It is his chosen response to the situation

and saying, I've given you x many.

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Chances to respond and to repent,

and because you've not taken them,

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I'm now going to act and just

measure to what you have done.

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In fact, sometimes God will use numbers.

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I'm gonna repay you double for your

sins, or I'm gonna give you a sevenfold

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response, which of course speaks to

the completion, not to the number.

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But it shows that God is thoughtful

in his response to our sin.

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It's not him flying off the handle.

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He's not losing control of his senses.

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God responds perfectly to the

situation based on how he understands

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it, which again is perfect.

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Knowledgeable, exhaustive

information about the situation.

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That's good.

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That's good.

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Hey, let's get into

Jeremiah 46 through 40.

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Eight, which is our DBR for today.

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And we're finishing Jeremiah soon.

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We are, yeah.

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In fact, I think tomorrow's

episode wraps it up, Jeremiah 46.

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Through 51.

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No, it's not tomorrow.

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It's not tomorrow.

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No.

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Sorry, I lied.

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46 through 51 really is God's judgment

on the nations, and he is going to

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deal with these nations in a just

bullet list kind of format here.

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And he begins in chapter 46 with

Egypt Chapter 47, Philistia,

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chapter 48, Moab in Egypt.

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He's talking about the defeat that Egypt

is gonna suffer, which was at least in

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part, fulfilled during the Battle of Car

Commission, which the first of first.

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Decisive blow was dealt to the Egyptians.

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The Babylonians are gonna be

instrumental in this battle and in

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the conquering of the Egyptians there.

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Notice in verse 10, it says that this

is the Lord's vengeance against Egypt.

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That this may be in response

to the death of Josiah.

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Josiah was killed by Pharaoh, Nico and

Pharaoh Nico's in view here in chapter.

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46.

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So it's possible that God is exact

in vengeance because of how good of

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a king Josiah was during that time.

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But Egypt is in the crosshairs

initially here in chapter 46.

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And the judgment on them is gonna

be thorough and very similar to

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what had befallen Israel, except

that there was gonna be no remnants.

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And so that's what separates this.

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This is gonna distinguish

Egypt and Philistia and Moab.

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God is not a god of covenant

with any of these nations.

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He's uniquely a god of covenant with

Israel and with Judah specifically there.

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That said, Egypt is

still promised a future.

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And that's fascinating to me.

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And quite honestly, I, it puzzles

me to know what that's gonna look

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like in the millennial kingdom.

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And during that time, there is

gonna be a future where Israel

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is the focus of God's plan.

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But there's gonna be these other nations.

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And some of these nations that God has

judged in the past are going to rise up

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again at that time during the millennial

kingdom, they're gonna be some of the

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nations that are bringing their gifts.

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Into Jerusalem there to to offer them in

Thanksgiving and praise to the reigning

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Christ as he's on the throne there.

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But yeah, Egypt is gonna suffer

God's judgment initially here.

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Short term in the hands of

Babylon and Nebuchadnezzar.

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What don't you say?

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Since Egypt is still existent today as

a nation, as a people, that you could

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look at that and say yeah, clearly

God answered, and then it's a way

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that makes sense to us today because

there's still in existence today,

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there's still functioning as a nation.

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Do you understand it that way or

do you understand it differently?

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No, I do, but there's

other nations that aren't.

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For example, Assyria was taken out,

and yet there's prophecies about

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Assyria coming back in the future.

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Moab, which we're about to read

about in chapter 48, they're

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gonna come back in the future.

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And we're not looking at a place today.

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We can look at the territories today

and say, this is where they were, but

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the people are not the same people.

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At least not in my understanding.

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That's not mine.

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That's interesting.

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Okay, cool.

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You would say the Moabite still exists?

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Under a different I'm, I guess I'm

still talking about the Egyptians.

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Egyptians, I'm with you.

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Okay.

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I was okay.

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Yeah.

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The Egyptian misunderstood.

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You still nation.

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The future for Egypt is much more, I can

understand that one easier than I can the

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future for Syrian and Moab, because God

takes them out completely and yet he's

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still talking about the fact that they're

gonna be back in the millennial kingdom.

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Got it.

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Yes.

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So that one's more puzzling to me.

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How do, where do they come from?

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Who are they today?

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How does that work?

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I'm with you on that one.

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Yeah.

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And chapter 47 is gonna be

the judgment on Philistia.

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These, the Philistines, they've been

a thorn in Israel's side from the

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very beginning, from the very outset.

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And God is gonna judge them as well.

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And then in chapter 48, like we were

just talking about, we turn to Moab

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and their pride and some things that.

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They're indicted by in

chapter 48, verse seven.

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They trust in their works and their

treasures instead of trusting in

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Yahweh, instead of trusting in the Lord.

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Chapter 48 verse 26 29.

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They're arrogant and proud, but they

would be humiliated by God's judgment.

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Verse 42, Moab is gonna be destroyed

and left again without remnant.

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So there's no one left here and yet.

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Verse 47, in the future, there's

gonna be a restoration of the mobi,

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chapter 48, Moab dealing with them.

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We're dealing with the subject

of pride and God is going to

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judge them for that pride.

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This is fascinating to

me because it's hard.

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We were even talking about this, man,

this is a hard section to do a podcast on,

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here's some principles of application to

draw out of these passages in these texts.

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And I guess the thing that came to

mind for me was, at least what's been

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going on lately, where Trump is flying

up to Alaska to meet with Putin, and

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then he's got Zelensky and the other,

European leaders that are coming to

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the White House to meet with him.

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And Trump is doing all of this

and claiming to be the president

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of peace and everything else.

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And yet what?

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Passages like this remind us of is

that God is the ultimate arbiter

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of justice with the nations.

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God is the one that is,

is behind all of this.

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That's what Daniel understood in, in, in

his interaction with Nebuchadnezzar, when

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God answered the dream that Daniel had or

that Nebuchadnezzar had, that the prayer

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that Daniel had to interpret the dream.

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Daniel understood, man, God,

you are the one that sets up

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kings and takes out kings.

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And so even as we watch from our position

and watch our president go and meet with

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all these different world leaders, we

have to understand that none of this is

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happening apart from God's sovereign plan.

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That God has a plan for these

nations, that he will judge nations

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in accordance with his perfect

plan, and he will bring peace when.

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In his plan to bring peace to situations.

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And so it's fascinating to watch

this from that perspective.

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And it gives us a comfort as

Christians that we don't have to

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panic and worry about I hope this

leader doesn't screw this up.

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I hope this leader doesn't mess this up.

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Nobody can mess up God's plan.

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God is working out his plan in

perfect accordance with his will.

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That is a comforting thought to have.

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And I guess another thing that I would

he add here is that Jeremiah, especially

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in these closing chapters, shows us

how devastating it is to be on the

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business end of God's judgment and wrath.

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These things that he calls them

out for are things that you

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and I could just as easily say.

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Yeah, that's true of Americans.

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That's true for a lot of

Christians in the church.

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Certainly not everybody, but the

judgment is so vast, so comprehensive,

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that even in chapter 47 verse six, it

seems like Jeremiah inserts his own

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thoughts Here he says, ah, so of the

Lord, how long till you are quiet, put

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yourself into your scabbard rest and

be still, and then seemingly responding

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to his own inquiry, his own requests.

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He says, how can it be quiet when the

Lord has given it a charge against

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Ash Kelon and against the seashore?

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He has appointed it.

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Judgment is certain for those who.

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Operate against God and his leadership.

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Another thing that stood out to

me was, especially in chapter 48,

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this is the judgment against Moab,

and here he says in verse 11, Moab

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has been at ease from his youth.

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And has settled on his dregs.

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He has not been emptied from vessel

to vessel, nor has he gone into exile.

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So his taste remains in him

and his scent is not changed.

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Now, God is talking about the kind of

ju so this is a, this is anal analogy

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a metaphor about how wine is treated.

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He's saying, you guys are

not treated like good wine.

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You're just left to spoil and to

rot, and consequently, because

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you've not been afflicted, you're

settling, you're you're in a place

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where you are no longer helpful.

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You're no, you're not been.

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You've not been tossled, you've

not been given any adversity, and

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therefore your character is unchanged.

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You are essentially worthless

when it comes to the wine.

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I think there is something there for us.

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It's not the same.

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We're not being judged by God.

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But notice here this sounds a little

bit like, and it's adjacent to

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Proverbs chapter three, of Father

disciplines, those whom he loves as

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a father does, or God disciplines,

those whom he loves as a father does.

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The sons in whom he delights.

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Moabites are not God's people.

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But there's a principle here

because God loves us, he will

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put us through adversity.

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He will empty us from vessel to vessel.

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He will move us so that we

don't settle on our drags.

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God is interested in our affliction

because it leads to our redemption.

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He's interested in moving us so that we

don't grow complacent, so that we don't

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become like Moab who's on the business

end of God's judgment, and I think that's

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a really helpful thing to remember.

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God's purpose in your life

is not to give you comfort.

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God wants to comfort you to be sure.

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In fact, second Corinthians chapter one,

Paul says, I comforted God comforted

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me so that I could comfort you.

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God certainly does that,

but make note, God.

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God does not like his children

to be comfortable for too long.

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I can attest to that throughout my life.

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I'm sure you could do the

same in yours, but this is a

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really interesting point to me.

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I think it's worth you noting in your

Bibles as you read through Moabs judgment.

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We're gonna see that in our study

of one Peter along the way too.

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So much so that Peter's

gonna write to his audience.

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Don't be surprised when you suffer.

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Don't be surprised when things are

uncomfortable, so as though something

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strange were happening to you.

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So the principle is there for

the New Testament as well.

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It's, that's great.

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Yeah.

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The fiery trial.

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You'll also note.

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That he identifies and calls out, and

he's gonna do this in the next couple

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chapters too, the gods of these nations.

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And so when you read in verse seven of

mosh going into exile, that is a god

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that was one of the gods of the Moabites.

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In fact, it was a God of child sacrifice.

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Pretty awful God there.

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And so God is much like he did

during the Exodus when he was

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unleashing the plagues against Egypt.

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He's targeting the gods of

these nations as well as he's

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bringing his justice to bearen.

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Remember a lot of them were mocking him.

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And when it comes to the Babylonians,

we're gonna get there in a few chapters.

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They were the ones that came

in and destroyed his temple.

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In fact, he's gonna talk

about taking vengeance on

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behalf of his temple for that.

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And at this time in history a defeat

for one nation over the other was that,

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that got that nation's, God was winning

the battle over the other nation's God.

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And so God is calling out these

false gods, not because he's

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giving them any legitimate.

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Credence here.

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But he's saying, look I'm winning.

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I'm the god.

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I'm the only God that's

worthy of devotion.

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I do think though.

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These gods are real gods, lowercase G.

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Even if you would say they're false gods.

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And on that much, I know you and

I would agree, I do think they're

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real entities, demons, right?

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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They're real entities.

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They're lowercase G gods.

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Yeah.

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That are powerful, that have

the ability to change things in

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their surrounding limited, though

they may be, they're still real.

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And I think that's what makes

these gods and chanting so enticing

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because they do have a power.

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Now again, it's a lowercase P for

power and there are a lowercase

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G for gods, but they're real.

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And that's why I think it's

interesting that often you'll find

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God characterizing the God of these

people as also being in captivity.

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You just talked about that.

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And that's because I believe they're

real gods that are being affected.

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Now, how that works in the spiritual

realm, and we can see in the

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physical realm they're being exiled.

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I don't know, but I do know that scripture

tells us, Paul says that there is.

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Principalities and powers that

are operational and we can't see

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them, but clearly they're organized

and there's stuff happening all

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around us and we never see it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And maybe they're in exile in the

sense that those that worshiped them

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are no longer there to worship them.

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And so if you remove the God's worshipers,

what does the God have left behind?

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That's not much.

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Yeah.

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Good.

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Let's let's pray and then we'll

be done with this episode.

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God we're thankful for the team of pastors

that you've given us for Pastor Mark being

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able to jump in the last couple episodes.

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We're glad that Pastor Rod's

back and we're excited to be

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back in your word and even.

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Passages that are a little bit more

difficult for us to work through.

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We're grateful that we can do

the hard work and to pull these

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applicational points outta there.

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And so we pray that we would

continue to do that as we learn

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more and more about who you are.

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And we are so thankful for your

word that shows us so much of that,

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and we pray this all in Jesus name.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Keep bringing your Bibles, tuning

again tomorrow for another edition

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of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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Bye.

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PJ: Yeah.

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I would agree with

everything that you said