Is Ellen DeGeneres actually "nice," or is it all an illusion of her Pisces Rising? In this episode, Paul and Claudia pull back the curtain on the Ellen controversy. They break down her 12th House Stellium—the house of hidden enemies and self-undoing—and look at how the Saturn-Pluto conjunction in Capricorn sat right on her Natal Mercury.

The conversation gets "dirty" as they explore the timelines of the backlash, the impact of her Aries Moon, and the looming Saturn-Jupiter conjunction in Aquarius that threatens to end her television career as we know it. From the George Bush controversy to the rumors of Epstein’s Island, no stone is left unturned. Watch as Claudia "calls the pocket" and predicts when the show might finally go dark.

In this episode, we explore:

1. The 12th House Trap: Why Ellen’s three planets in the 12th house (Aquarius) make her prone to "hidden enemies" and public backlash.
2. Mars in the 10th: How Mars transiting her house of career triggered the initial "spark" of the controversy in January 2020.
3. Neptune on the Ascendant: Has the public been under a Neptunian "illusion" of Ellen’s personality?
4. Zodiacal Releasing: Using the "Loosening of the Bond" technique to identify the exact moments her public reputation began to crumble.
5. The Prediction: Why Claudia and Paul believe the "Grand Finale" for Ellen’s show is coming in late 2020/early 2021.

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