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Rambo Rich: From Milkman to Moonwalker
Episode 3513th July 2026 • Turning Hustle Into Legacy with Dr. Stance • BWIT Podcast Studio
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Dr. Stan sits down with the dynamic Rambo Rich, diving into the exciting world of turning your hustle into a legacy. Rambo, a multi-talented entrepreneur, activist, and poet, shares his journey from the stage to the screen, revealing how he balances being a devoted dad to six kids while pursuing his passion for entertainment. We laugh, we learn, and we even touch on the wild side of fame, discussing everything from acting alongside Hollywood stars to the hilarious realities of parenthood. With a sprinkle of humor and plenty of real talk, this episode is packed with insights for anyone looking to carve out their own path and leave a lasting impact. So grab your headphones and let's get into the good stuff!

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Speaker A:

Sam, What's up?

Speaker A:

What's up, y'?

Speaker A:

All?

Speaker A:

We are back with Dr. Stan's turning your hustle into legacy.

Speaker A:

And I have a very special guest that flew in to come see Dr. Stan, which I'm so excited about.

Speaker A:

Mr. Rambo Rich.

Speaker A:

What's up?

Speaker B:

What up?

Speaker A:

What's up?

Speaker A:

Chicago, Houston.

Speaker A:

He's everywhere.

Speaker A:

Entrepreneur, activist, poet.

Speaker A:

Just your everything, Your everything mc.

Speaker A:

It's a list like.

Speaker A:

Like my homeboy.

Speaker A:

I met him through Unique King Unique, who I just interviewed as well, my other guy, and we met like that.

Speaker A:

So all of you guys are in the same room.

Speaker A:

Y' all just a ball of joy, a ball of packages of everything.

Speaker A:

Like, y' all, not just a rapper.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

Well, you know, I get just straight to it, like I was telling you, super authentic, nothing scripted.

Speaker A:

I just come off the head and just be like, you know, tell people who Rambo Rich is.

Speaker B:

And we was talking.

Speaker B:

You a Leo, like me.

Speaker B:

So, hey, I mean, I like the straightforward shit, too.

Speaker A:

So technically, to me, he's a Virgo.

Speaker A:

Because you said September.

Speaker B:

Hey, I got to put you on game, though.

Speaker B:

He's putting me on game with Vedic astrology.

Speaker A:

Here we go.

Speaker A:

Here we go.

Speaker A:

Talk to the doctor.

Speaker B:

We'll go there later.

Speaker A:

He says he's Leo.

Speaker A:

I say he's Virgo because it's September.

Speaker A:

But it's a different perspective that he has with the Vedic.

Speaker A:

What is it?

Speaker A:

Astrology.

Speaker A:

So we'll get into that.

Speaker A:

I want to know about that.

Speaker A:

But tell people who Rambo Rich is.

Speaker A:

Besides the Leo.

Speaker B:

I mean, I'm a. I'm an entertainer.

Speaker B:

I'm a dad.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

You know, dad of three girls.

Speaker B:

And I mean, it extends further, like, I mean, got a wife.

Speaker B:

She brung three.

Speaker B:

Three kids.

Speaker B:

So, I mean, we got six total.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

If you really want to get.

Speaker A:

My heart fell off my body down.

Speaker B:

To the ground level with it.

Speaker A:

That's a lot.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

But I love kids, too, anyway.

Speaker B:

But shoot.

Speaker B:

I mean, I'm a. I'm entertained at heart ever since I saw Michael Jackson the first time he ruined my life, you know, he made it great.

Speaker B:

Ruined it at the same time.

Speaker B:

Unique, you know, Started singing, first went to dancing, then became an emcee.

Speaker B:

Got into acting as well.

Speaker B:

Somebody saw me out doing multiple shows, gotten into my first acting.

Speaker B:

They scooped me up and was like, yo, you ever thought about acting before?

Speaker B:

I had, but it was just like, I didn't know.

Speaker B:

I didn't have a network.

Speaker B:

I had a connection.

Speaker B:

So it was just like, hey, do what you know, until that comes along with it.

Speaker B:

So they saw me perform, was like, hey, you ever thought about acting?

Speaker B:

I'm like, hell, yeah, we can go back to it and touch on it.

Speaker B:

But just in the first steps of it, they just say, hey, come to my house, read a script.

Speaker B:

I went to the crib, read a script.

Speaker B:

They was like, we want to book you for this role.

Speaker A:

Are you special?

Speaker A:

Because that's hard as heck to act.

Speaker A:

I did.

Speaker A:

I have four words in my Homeboys movie.

Speaker A:

I did 75 takes.

Speaker A:

I'm not lying.

Speaker A:

I was an attorney.

Speaker A:

I was an attorney and I literally.

Speaker A:

It was literally four words.

Speaker A:

And I had to just hold the phone and pretend I could not get it right.

Speaker A:

So to me, actors are extremely special people.

Speaker B:

Thank you.

Speaker B:

Appreciate it.

Speaker B:

But it kind of.

Speaker B:

It works hand in hand.

Speaker B:

So, I mean, I'm writing lyrics every day.

Speaker B:

I'm remembering words every day.

Speaker B:

So when you get a script, it's like, that's that part.

Speaker B:

And then you.

Speaker B:

You in.

Speaker B:

You in front of the lights doing, you know, rap entertainment stuff anyway, so literally every other aspect that I'd already touched on, it was just like, oh, okay, now put it in script form.

Speaker B:

And, you know, I was already in front of a camera.

Speaker B:

I was already in front of people.

Speaker B:

So it was just changed the dynamics, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

And then growing up, growing up too.

Speaker B:

You know, I'm in the movies.

Speaker B:

I'm a big movie head.

Speaker B:

So it was just like, hey, here's your time to just do what you thought you wanted to do when you was a little kid.

Speaker B:

So just.

Speaker A:

You're natural.

Speaker B:

Refine shit, you're natural.

Speaker A:

I guess I can understand that.

Speaker A:

Like, I'm a natural with reality, if that makes sense.

Speaker A:

Like.

Speaker A:

Cause everybody can't podcast.

Speaker A:

Let's just keep it 100.

Speaker A:

We see a lot of them, they garbage.

Speaker A:

Not like that, respectfully, but I'm just being honest.

Speaker A:

Like it's garbage.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

And I'm not even talking about the brand part.

Speaker A:

It's about being an intellect, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

And having the mindset to have a regular conversation.

Speaker A:

Like I told you, mine's not scripted, so.

Speaker A:

So that's not easy.

Speaker B:

That's how I know you're doing.

Speaker B:

You know what you're doing.

Speaker B:

You're a conversationalist.

Speaker B:

And when you could do that, you could wing.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's natural.

Speaker A:

And it wasn't even.

Speaker A:

This was not even like planned.

Speaker A:

It was.

Speaker A:

But to make sense, it wasn't.

Speaker A:

This was for a whole another platform.

Speaker A:

But tell Me about these six kids.

Speaker A:

You got three girls.

Speaker A:

Is it three more girls or how many girls?

Speaker A:

And boy, like that's a lot.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

Yeah, so I mean, me for my nuts.

Speaker B:

Three.

Speaker B:

All right, so.

Speaker B:

But three girls.

Speaker B:

But how old are they?

Speaker A:

What's your oldest?

Speaker B:

My oldest is 11.

Speaker B:

Oh, she about to be 11, her birthday next week.

Speaker B:

So she about to turn 11.

Speaker B:

I'm excited for her.

Speaker B:

I'm throwing a party for her at my house and she inviting kids.

Speaker B:

She invite her other friends.

Speaker A:

Oh, you finna be okay, so you finna be dressed up like it's fun, huh?

Speaker A:

I was like that.

Speaker B:

I'm excited to be a dad.

Speaker B:

I mean I'm just.

Speaker B:

And I'm big on like.

Speaker B:

I know all this time is going fast, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Yes, I'm really aware of that.

Speaker B:

And I'm really trying to just balance everything out just with my celebrity and the kids.

Speaker B:

And it's just tough.

Speaker B:

It's very tough knowing that this is a fleeting, this is an amazing fleeting time.

Speaker B:

You know, both things kind of contradiction.

Speaker B:

But yeah, it's great, you know, knowing that it's fleeting.

Speaker B:

But you know, this is really important time and they, they remember all these moments.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

And it's like, you know, you gotta be there.

Speaker B:

It's important.

Speaker B:

Especially for me.

Speaker A:

Are you a strict dad or are you more like fun dad?

Speaker A:

Games and moms are strict.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I'm both.

Speaker A:

Good for you.

Speaker A:

It's a balance.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

They know they could come to dad to play due to craziness.

Speaker B:

That mommy gonna be like no, don'.

Speaker B:

But at the same time I'm like, hey, when I say something.

Speaker B:

Nah, I want you to hear me the first time, first, second time or you gonna have a problem.

Speaker A:

We gonna have a major problem.

Speaker B:

Yeah, so I'm kind of like both.

Speaker B:

But then the children that my wife brought, she got.

Speaker B:

She had a daughter that was already like 16.

Speaker B:

So when I come in the picture it's like, you know, that was crazy.

Speaker A:

That was hard.

Speaker A:

Does she love you now?

Speaker B:

It was great.

Speaker B:

So it could have been really nuts, but.

Speaker B:

But I'm real cool.

Speaker B:

I'm real cool with kids.

Speaker B:

So it just came off great.

Speaker B:

16 Year old daughter and then she had 14 year old boy and then an 8 year old.

Speaker B:

So two boys and a girl.

Speaker A:

Okay, so the boys, at least the boys.

Speaker A:

You never got the head out of your nuts.

Speaker B:

Right, right, right.

Speaker A:

That's fun.

Speaker A:

Right now.

Speaker B:

Craziness.

Speaker B:

I always wanted a boy though.

Speaker B:

It ain't gonna happen.

Speaker A:

Me too.

Speaker B:

I'm over with it.

Speaker A:

Me too.

Speaker B:

Done.

Speaker B:

Done, but.

Speaker B:

Done, done, done, done, done.

Speaker B:

But I'm Richard Howard iii.

Speaker A:

Okay, don't tell me her story.

Speaker B:

So think about that.

Speaker B:

Nah, But I wanted the boy to be like, Richard Howard the four.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

The fuck so I know.

Speaker B:

But I'm like, that ain't happening.

Speaker A:

So you got six.

Speaker A:

I mean, some men really want.

Speaker A:

Look at the Nick Cannons, you know what I mean?

Speaker A:

They got a whole bunch of children.

Speaker A:

I take my hat off to them.

Speaker A:

But how do you spread your time, like, as a man to me?

Speaker A:

I think I just had this conversation.

Speaker A:

You guys ain't really built to raise children.

Speaker A:

You guys are meant to do the labor, go provide, go get the bread, bring it back.

Speaker A:

You bring it back.

Speaker A:

The women cook it and take care of them kids.

Speaker A:

That's biblically right.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

How do you mentally spread your time between six kids on top of four of them teenagers?

Speaker A:

I'm dead with one, to be honest.

Speaker B:

Like, it gotta just be built in me.

Speaker B:

Like, it was like.

Speaker B:

Cause when I sit around and think about shit like that and the things I've accomplished, done in life, I honestly be like, I don't know how the fuck you did that.

Speaker B:

Like, for real.

Speaker B:

So it just be like, I'm going.

Speaker B:

And it's like, I'm real big on.

Speaker B:

I'm real spiritual.

Speaker B:

My ancestors, everything.

Speaker B:

Look, everybody look out for me.

Speaker B:

And there's people on my side.

Speaker B:

Because it's tremendous.

Speaker B:

Like, trials and peaks and valleys.

Speaker B:

I've been through that.

Speaker B:

I don't know how I got through it.

Speaker B:

Um, but.

Speaker B:

And.

Speaker B:

But with me loving kids, that really helps me in this.

Speaker B:

This situation though, too.

Speaker B:

Cause I mean, like, dead ass.

Speaker B:

Like, on a day where I'm supposed to be chilling, I'm like, nah.

Speaker B:

Like, my wife is like, I can't.

Speaker B:

You know, she just hanging out.

Speaker B:

I'm like, you know what?

Speaker B:

Don't do nothing.

Speaker B:

I'm about to take the kids to the mall.

Speaker B:

We about to go to the park.

Speaker B:

We about to go do this.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So I'm still vibrant, and I just.

Speaker B:

That's just me.

Speaker B:

That's what I want to do.

Speaker B:

And it might have something to do with just how I was brought up too.

Speaker B:

Like, my dad wasn't around a lot, My mom was.

Speaker B:

So it was just like, I already know I'm about to be like super dad.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So it's that part that gives me all kind of energy and just like, positivity.

Speaker B:

Just trying to move things around and just make sure that they are important.

Speaker B:

And I Just have to balance it the best way I can.

Speaker B:

But I've made some decisions in the past to where probably weren't the smartest thing.

Speaker B:

Trying to still do entertainment and do what I need, you know.

Speaker B:

But um, it's actually the more I'm doing now, I'm actually able to make more time, surprisingly.

Speaker B:

But that comes with, I'll say, knowing your worth and not spreading yourself too thin and being like, all right, I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna do that.

Speaker B:

So you just gotta know your worth and where to, where to put your time.

Speaker A:

So, so where do you get your biggest back from?

Speaker A:

Is it acting, your entrepreneurship or being a poet or activist work?

Speaker A:

Where's your mainstream income?

Speaker B:

And honestly, mind you, biggest bag right now is still working a 9 to 5.

Speaker B:

Cause I still really.

Speaker B:

I still work.

Speaker A:

Where do you work?

Speaker B:

Still work.

Speaker B:

So I'm a motherfucking milkman for Safeway.

Speaker A:

No way.

Speaker B:

So like driving tankers around, that's good money.

Speaker B:

So it's good money.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

That's real good money.

Speaker B:

And I haven't been doing it for too long, probably like a year.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

But before that, just making little bags, doing entertainment, doing acting, doing music.

Speaker B:

But probably the.

Speaker B:

I would say accumulation.

Speaker B:

Biggest bag would be polyactin.

Speaker B:

Polyactin.

Speaker B:

But the acting.

Speaker B:

I haven't got a residual role yet.

Speaker B:

So it's just like it's coming, it coming and go, coming and go.

Speaker B:

So I need a residual meaning more like reoccurring roles.

Speaker A:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

So it's amazing.

Speaker B:

I've even gotten to work with big celebrity actors and everything.

Speaker A:

Name one so the people know who you really eat.

Speaker B:

Okay, so Sean Astin.

Speaker B:

Not hearing the name.

Speaker B:

You probably might not know cause I wouldn't either.

Speaker A:

I haven't heard.

Speaker B:

But he's the white guy, little short redhead kid that played in Goonies.

Speaker B:

He was in Goonies.

Speaker B:

He was also in Lord of the Rings, bro.

Speaker A:

That's one of my favorites.

Speaker B:

So you already know what I'm talking about.

Speaker A:

That funny looking man.

Speaker B:

Yeah, funny face.

Speaker A:

He was my favorite character.

Speaker A:

Hilarious.

Speaker B:

And so when I was like, oh shit, like I got to work side by side closer than we sitting right now in a couple of scenes in Librarians.

Speaker B:

I don't know if you're familiar, they shoot it in Portland, Oregon, and they shoot a lot of movies and sitcoms and commercials there.

Speaker B:

But I got a chance to be on a show called Librarians on tnt and I was on the show with him in a scene, multiple scenes with him and Librarians.

Speaker A:

That's dope.

Speaker B:

I got in a scene with him, and he's like, you know, this is big time.

Speaker B:

You ready to.

Speaker A:

Was you nervous?

Speaker B:

I was more excited.

Speaker A:

Really?

Speaker B:

I was more excited.

Speaker B:

Really?

Speaker B:

A little.

Speaker B:

I got nervous when he really was, like, talking to me, like.

Speaker B:

Cause I'm like.

Speaker B:

When he's, like, making eye contact, like, all right, this is it.

Speaker B:

I was like, all right, you making me fuck.

Speaker B:

Like, that was the crazy part.

Speaker B:

Before that, I was like, all right, another day.

Speaker B:

I've done this before.

Speaker B:

But he's like, looking at me like, this is the scene.

Speaker B:

We ready?

Speaker B:

We gonna shoot.

Speaker B:

I was like, yeah.

Speaker B:

Huh?

Speaker B:

So he's just like, calm down.

Speaker B:

It's okay.

Speaker B:

You know, I know who I am.

Speaker B:

But you've been doing this, right?

Speaker B:

You got this, and we gonna run through it.

Speaker B:

I'm like, mm.

Speaker B:

In my head, I'm like, you kind of freaked me out, but I got it now.

Speaker B:

But that was one of my biggest breakout roles.

Speaker B:

And when they was even telling me, like, pre production, they was like, hey, tell your people the camera gonna be on you.

Speaker B:

Not gonna be no background.

Speaker B:

You full screen right there.

Speaker B:

People gonna see you.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

And I got to play a cop on the show too, so they had to give me a whole outfit change, whole situation.

Speaker A:

It was so fun, especially as a new actor.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

It was out this world, like, again, another thing.

Speaker B:

I look and I go, you fucking did that?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Like.

Speaker B:

And I know we jumping around, we gonna attack different things, but it was like, getting into that was like, damn.

Speaker B:

Like.

Speaker B:

And knowing I'm still working a 9 to 5, right?

Speaker B:

When you hear people's backstory and you like, wait, how you was still doing this?

Speaker B:

But.

Speaker B:

And you was.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

I'm like, oh, shit.

Speaker B:

You living it.

Speaker B:

You really in it right now in real time.

Speaker B:

So that kind of fucks with me.

Speaker B:

Like, I'm like, you doing big shit in real time.

Speaker B:

Just like me being here with you.

Speaker B:

So dead ass.

Speaker B:

Nah, I mean that.

Speaker B:

And it's huge shit.

Speaker B:

It's like, everybody.

Speaker B:

Everybody I meet on the way up in the middle, it's just like, yeah, you know, I love it.

Speaker B:

Every.

Speaker B:

Every.

Speaker B:

Every aspect of it.

Speaker B:

Doing that, though.

Speaker B:

I even had to.

Speaker B:

I was working a job.

Speaker B:

I even quit a job to take that role now.

Speaker A:

That's.

Speaker A:

That's.

Speaker A:

I mean, you got to invest in.

Speaker B:

Yourself, you know, you got to.

Speaker B:

You don't know when that's gonna be the big.

Speaker B:

The big jump.

Speaker B:

So I was.

Speaker B:

When they was talking to me, hey, naw, this.

Speaker B:

You gonna be on camera.

Speaker B:

I was like.

Speaker B:

And I had just started a job at that point.

Speaker B:

I'm like, man, this is crazy.

Speaker A:

So this is recent?

Speaker A:

The movie is recent?

Speaker B:

No, no, this was some years ago.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

I thought you said you just started the job with something.

Speaker A:

Not that job.

Speaker B:

No, this was another job.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

But nah, that's why I be like, you know, balancing with the kids and everything.

Speaker B:

It's, like, hard.

Speaker B:

It's like, do I make this decision?

Speaker B:

Do I do that?

Speaker B:

Do I do this?

Speaker B:

Um.

Speaker B:

But yeah, having.

Speaker B:

Being.

Speaker B:

Having that time with Sean Astin on camera and seeing that and being with an actor of that magnitude, like you did Lord of the Rings, you.

Speaker B:

You out of here.

Speaker B:

So just being on a set with, like, a major actor was crazy.

Speaker A:

I bet.

Speaker B:

Like, I got.

Speaker B:

And I. I don't.

Speaker B:

I wouldn't say.

Speaker B:

I don't know if every actor does this, but being on the set with him, he was real, like, specific.

Speaker B:

Meaning, like, I got to see, like, he was professional, but it was like, I got to see him go through, like, go through a hard time because they had just signed him on for this role.

Speaker B:

He had the script for a Day.

Speaker B:

He was the main character in each shot.

Speaker B:

He was damn near in it.

Speaker B:

I had to see him struggle, and to see that from a major actor taught me so much and gave me so much.

Speaker B:

It was like, that's big right there.

Speaker B:

It was like.

Speaker B:

Cause you looking at actors and you like, oh, perfect.

Speaker A:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

This motherfucker been doing it for decades, right?

Speaker B:

But the situation he was in, right, he had a script for a Day.

Speaker B:

I mean, it's pages of shit.

Speaker A:

How do you do that, Doctor?

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

How do you do that?

Speaker B:

He's.

Speaker B:

I mean, he's the fucking seasoned actor.

Speaker B:

That's how he does it.

Speaker B:

But I got to see him mess up over and over and over and over.

Speaker B:

And I was like.

Speaker B:

To be in that situation and be, like, privy to that, like, damn, you got to see a major actor just screw up and.

Speaker B:

But you know what I took from that?

Speaker B:

The main thing was, all right, you kept fucking up.

Speaker B:

Cause you didn't know it, and you had to get it, but you didn't give up.

Speaker A:

Correct.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker B:

It's a ton of people around.

Speaker A:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Cameras everywhere, everywhere.

Speaker B:

And he just, fuck, shit.

Speaker B:

Run it again.

Speaker A:

Fuck, shit.

Speaker B:

And then just go right back into the role.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker B:

Now that's some crazy cool shit, too.

Speaker B:

That is.

Speaker B:

So that was like, oh, like, you structured, you knowing your lines, you getting through it.

Speaker B:

To see somebody have to do that, that Was huge.

Speaker B:

I couldn't have paid for that.

Speaker A:

Ooh.

Speaker B:

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Like, and he just.

Speaker B:

Big production going on.

Speaker B:

He messing up.

Speaker B:

I mean, numerous times.

Speaker B:

And they, like, no problem, shoot it again.

Speaker B:

And then just when he get.

Speaker B:

Then he get it.

Speaker B:

And then it's magical and it's next scene, boom.

Speaker B:

And then they keep doing it.

Speaker B:

Yes, sort of.

Speaker B:

And I mean, we had hours.

Speaker B:

Hours.

Speaker A:

So in them sets, it be hours.

Speaker B:

Them actors be there, and then the new director saying, boom.

Speaker B:

Aight, we got it, Sean, we got it.

Speaker B:

Yup.

Speaker B:

And they.

Speaker B:

From me being to a cop, they ended up transforming me from a cop to like a crazy psycho clown, like, with blood everywhere.

Speaker B:

I had a mask on.

Speaker B:

They had me.

Speaker B:

They had me in this mask while Sean Astin was fucking up his lines, right?

Speaker B:

They got me in this mask and I could barely breathe.

Speaker B:

And I'm like, I hope he fuck up again so I can take this mask off.

Speaker B:

It was nuts, but it was.

Speaker A:

Dude, it was amazing.

Speaker A:

Dope.

Speaker A:

So did that help you, like, in the.

Speaker A:

Did that more like, what I feel like it did was it encouraged you and gave you hope?

Speaker A:

Like, even if I come and I mess up, that don't mean I have to be perfect.

Speaker B:

Hell yeah.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Because at the end of the day, you don't see that.

Speaker B:

Chill out.

Speaker B:

Know you.

Speaker B:

You superstar yourself in your own right.

Speaker B:

You gonna get it done.

Speaker B:

And people here to help and assist that too, at this level.

Speaker B:

And that's something like, can't nobody even tell you.

Speaker B:

I had to be there to see it.

Speaker A:

That's why I was like, oh, my God.

Speaker A:

Like a Denzel Washington.

Speaker A:

From training Day to being in this.

Speaker A:

What was that other movie he was in where he was anyway, where he was just like, he's to me, one of the best actors because he plays so many different hats and he's able to get in character.

Speaker A:

And to me, I look at those people, that.

Speaker A:

That's real talent.

Speaker A:

Because it's hard.

Speaker A:

I did it with three words and I had 72 takes.

Speaker A:

And it's like for them to be able to remember all of that and strategically go into character, that's different level.

Speaker B:

Yeah, real bad.

Speaker A:

I would love to actually be on the scene to see that.

Speaker B:

Like, that was.

Speaker A:

I know it's.

Speaker A:

I know it's life.

Speaker A:

I know it's life changing.

Speaker B:

And it was.

Speaker B:

It was a three day, three day shoot.

Speaker B:

Ah.

Speaker A:

Three days.

Speaker B:

Three days, one hour movie.

Speaker B:

That's why I had to cut the work.

Speaker B:

I was like, I can't leave work.

Speaker B:

For three days.

Speaker B:

What the fuck?

Speaker B:

I'mma do shit.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So I was like, but again, that came with the experience of me saying, all right, I need to go do this.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Did you ever do acting school?

Speaker B:

I didn't do acting school, but I took acting classes once I got a agent.

Speaker A:

Gotcha.

Speaker B:

But that wasn't until years later.

Speaker B:

It was like a natural thing.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Like, me just me knowing I wanted to do this and being like, it's like studying it like an art.

Speaker B:

Like, I knew I wanted to act.

Speaker B:

It was just like, hey, that'll come when, you know, the universe blessed me with me able to get through that door, you know, I just didn't even see that door opening and boom.

Speaker B:

Like I told you, through music.

Speaker B:

Then that door opened and so.

Speaker B:

Oh, doing my little homework on you, too.

Speaker B:

I also now the first people that got me in the film, they also had me doing tours in prisons.

Speaker B:

They got me to go to prisons to help out youth.

Speaker B:

And I know you big in helping out the youth, so I even did shows in prisons for kids now that like, touched me and was like, that's different.

Speaker B:

That's somebody I've never fucking seen coming.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's definitely different level.

Speaker B:

And that shit was fire, though.

Speaker A:

I actually done it before.

Speaker A:

I've done it.

Speaker A:

Presented my book, you know, how to CEO shout out to me.

Speaker A:

But no, I presented my book to.

Speaker A:

They got a class together for the prostitutes that were in.

Speaker A:

Not prison, but jail, county jail.

Speaker A:

And to present and then present my book.

Speaker A:

That it just is different level.

Speaker A:

When you work with youth or you even kind of see yourself in them, you know what I mean?

Speaker B:

And they looking at you a certain way, like they didn't.

Speaker B:

They don't amounted to something.

Speaker B:

Hey, what can they give me?

Speaker B:

You know what that feel like?

Speaker A:

That's a different feeling.

Speaker A:

That's definitely a different feeling.

Speaker A:

Now, I know your butt is a poet.

Speaker A:

Now, when you say poet, what is that to you?

Speaker A:

Like, is that I'll say, like, for your talents.

Speaker A:

Like, you rap, you sing poet.

Speaker A:

Which one do you think you're the best in?

Speaker A:

And act out of all of them.

Speaker B:

MC number one.

Speaker B:

So rap.

Speaker B:

But the poet thing is, like, now to get a little deeper in what you might be talking about.

Speaker A:

Cause I wanna know.

Speaker B:

Now, my approach to poetry is completely different from me being a rapper.

Speaker B:

So if I'm pinning down a poem piece, I'm not trying to make it rhyme really.

Speaker B:

But that's like spoken word, purposeful, you know?

Speaker B:

What I'm saying, I'm like, all right, you are gonna poetry piece.

Speaker B:

I don't want it to rhyme.

Speaker B:

I could rhyme a thousand words all day, but this, if somebody's really into poetry, it's like, nah, you gonna get this poetry.

Speaker B:

So it's gonna be real thought provoking.

Speaker B:

But I'm not trying to rhyme the words.

Speaker B:

And I just wanna just chill on that.

Speaker B:

Like when I'm doing my poetry.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

What is it more or less about?

Speaker A:

What do you talk about in your poetry?

Speaker A:

Like, what are you interested in?

Speaker B:

Poetry is.

Speaker B:

It's the whole gamut.

Speaker B:

It could be if I want to write about life situations, if I just want to like share something personal, or if I just want to talk about nature.

Speaker B:

I do that a lot.

Speaker B:

Really?

Speaker B:

Nature things that I'm a big like person of.

Speaker B:

Like.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I could cry when I'm mad, but I can cry when I'm happy too.

Speaker B:

So I'm like.

Speaker B:

I mean, watching the sunset is like, damn.

Speaker B:

And to have that time with kids, life, whatever.

Speaker B:

For you to sit down and watch the moon for like 20 minutes, I'm like that kind of person.

Speaker B:

But to get that time is like, yeah.

Speaker A:

Cause you got six kids.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And you go to the grocery store.

Speaker A:

Is like a field trip for you and by yourself.

Speaker B:

Most of the time I'm taking them with me.

Speaker B:

Like I'm taking two of them with me.

Speaker B:

The two little ones.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

And then I think, yeah, the two little ones.

Speaker B:

I spoke about the ages of the older ones.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

That my first daughter is 11, but the other two is three and four.

Speaker B:

So I got toddlers at the crib.

Speaker B:

No sleep, dude.

Speaker B:

XYZ do a thousand things.

Speaker B:

Oh yeah.

Speaker A:

I'm dead.

Speaker B:

So what we talking?

Speaker B:

I don't literally, I don't even.

Speaker A:

This is therapy for you right here.

Speaker A:

Like this.

Speaker A:

I'm clouded.

Speaker A:

This is like.

Speaker A:

This is vacation.

Speaker B:

Me on the plane.

Speaker B:

Quiet, like, no kids, nothing.

Speaker A:

Like 3, 4, 11, 14, 6.

Speaker A:

That's you first of all, you different levels mentally because you got to go from teenage to boys.

Speaker A:

Any boyfriends yet?

Speaker A:

Girlfriends?

Speaker A:

14.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, the 18.

Speaker B:

Like.

Speaker B:

Yeah, the 18.

Speaker B:

Now the daughter that I.

Speaker B:

That my wife that was 16, she's 19 now.

Speaker A:

19.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

Yeah, she got the boyfriend.

Speaker B:

She in college.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So no, everybody doing great.

Speaker A:

Kids.

Speaker B:

Yeah, everybody doing great.

Speaker A:

That's.

Speaker A:

You know what I feel like a lot of that's coming from a two parent home.

Speaker A:

Are you from a two parent home?

Speaker B:

From the start.

Speaker A:

From the start.

Speaker A:

From the start.

Speaker B:

But shit, my parents got.

Speaker B:

That was a rap from whole fucked situation still in my mind.

Speaker B:

It happened when I was like, what, five?

Speaker A:

Really?

Speaker B:

So it was divorced.

Speaker B:

I remember that.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A:

It was hard for you, huh?

Speaker B:

Yeah, geez.

Speaker B:

Crazy.

Speaker A:

Like, that's a lot.

Speaker A:

Do you think that kind of.

Speaker A:

It was trauma and kind of messed you up a little bit as you got older, like, had issues.

Speaker A:

Older, like, were you a good kid or did you.

Speaker B:

I was a great kid.

Speaker B:

I was a great kid.

Speaker B:

I got a brother.

Speaker B:

I got a younger brother.

Speaker B:

I was in the streets, but not like.

Speaker B:

Not like doing the fuck like I do.

Speaker B:

I was on some fuck shit, but not like the main motherfuckers.

Speaker B:

I was like, rich.

Speaker B:

They like rich.

Speaker B:

Do all this other shit music, blah, blah.

Speaker B:

Hey, they wanna come get me to come, like, pick my brain, come work, come do some fuck shit with us.

Speaker B:

And so when you around and you grow up where I grew up, yeah, you gonna be on some fuck shit.

Speaker B:

But I wasn't like, starting right.

Speaker A:

You were shot down, right?

Speaker B:

Start on fuck shit.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A:

That's like Oakland.

Speaker A:

I think they worse than Oakland.

Speaker B:

They are, but we cousins.

Speaker B:

Yeah, we cousins for sure.

Speaker A:

Like, we.

Speaker A:

We are uncle.

Speaker A:

Like, y' all our nephews.

Speaker A:

Like, Chi Town, they say is the worst.

Speaker A:

I'm actually going out there, I think.

Speaker A:

Shout out to what's her name?

Speaker A:

Chrisean Rock.

Speaker A:

She having her first fight, or is it Philadelphia?

Speaker A:

But she having her first fight.

Speaker A:

But I think I went to Chicago once with Clarissa for her fight.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah?

Speaker A:

I think so.

Speaker B:

That's sick.

Speaker A:

It was cool, though.

Speaker A:

Maybe I didn't go to the ghetto.

Speaker B:

So it's huge.

Speaker B:

So you could avoid it.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I think so.

Speaker B:

That's the thing.

Speaker B:

Oakland, you can't avoid it.

Speaker B:

Cause it's not that huge.

Speaker B:

So it's like, shit.

Speaker B:

You feel like it's everywhere.

Speaker B:

So that's the crazy thing.

Speaker B:

The Oakland shit, it be like, it's dense.

Speaker B:

Chicago, it's like, all right, if you on the south side.

Speaker B:

I'm from the south side.

Speaker B:

Same from Kanye Common.

Speaker B:

We on the same side, but different areas, though.

Speaker B:

I'm more gutter gang side than they are.

Speaker A:

Got you.

Speaker B:

So they do different.

Speaker B:

That's why all the places around that I've been city wise now, only crazy vibe that I felt that matched Chicago was like, LA shit.

Speaker A:

I knew he was gonna say la.

Speaker B:

Cause it's gang shit involved.

Speaker B:

So it's like, nah, Chicago, you got it.

Speaker B:

Where it's like, man, fuck.

Speaker B:

People just, oh, beef between me and you, motherfucker.

Speaker B:

If your hat turned this way, it's something this way.

Speaker B:

It's something this way.

Speaker B:

It's something color, something.

Speaker B:

Everything is something that's scary.

Speaker A:

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker B:

So it's like, yo, I used to live here.

Speaker B:

You can't even get to the store without walking through, motherfuckers.

Speaker B:

So it's oh, my God.

Speaker B:

And say, you in GD territory, motherfucker.

Speaker B:

The store in BD hood.

Speaker B:

That kind of shit.

Speaker A:

What's gd?

Speaker B:

Gd.

Speaker B:

Gangster Disciples.

Speaker A:

Ooh, and what's the other one?

Speaker B:

You say BD.

Speaker B:

So, I mean, you got BD.

Speaker B:

I don't even remember what black.

Speaker B:

What BD's is.

Speaker B:

But then you got Blackstones, you got Vice Lords, you got tons of shit.

Speaker A:

It's a whole movement shot, Tack.

Speaker B:

I mean, it's like Cali shit.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

It remind me of that movie, the Show Series Shy.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

That's real life.

Speaker B:

It's real shit.

Speaker B:

Oh, and as you hear, like, so I'm also like, I grew up part parted partly in O block.

Speaker B:

You hear O block, now I hear.

Speaker B:

Oh, so before it was O block, all right, it was Parkway Gardens.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker A:

Gardens.

Speaker B:

I look young.

Speaker B:

I'm 44.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

All right, so next year, so.

Speaker B:

All right, so you know, it was before it was O block, it was Parkway.

Speaker B:

So:

Speaker B:

If you know, you know.

Speaker B:

So only:

Speaker B:

So you know, you know.

Speaker B:

You only know that if you there.

Speaker A:

Shout out to people that know.

Speaker B:

But, nah, it's.

Speaker B:

It's crazy.

Speaker B:

And that only times I felt like that, like, I said, parts of la, that's it.

Speaker B:

I even been to you.

Speaker B:

I've been.

Speaker B:

I've been in the projects in New York.

Speaker B:

I've been to Queensbridge.

Speaker B:

I've been to Marcy.

Speaker B:

I've been.

Speaker B:

I did the whole game.

Speaker A:

It wasn't that bad, maybe.

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

s or:

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Because I feel like me and my homegirl, we just went to New York and we literally was walking on, like, the train station with our mink coats on.

Speaker A:

It was a whole thing because we was doing a photo thing, and we were, like, coming to America, like, literally.

Speaker B:

I was like.

Speaker A:

Like, literally everybody, like, you can tell they knew we were not from there.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

You know, but I think that's heck of fun.

Speaker B:

They got a good sense in New York now.

Speaker B:

They.

Speaker B:

They peep shit quick.

Speaker A:

Oh, real quick.

Speaker A:

They faster, I feel like, than the Bay because, like, they knew.

Speaker A:

Oh, where y' all from?

Speaker A:

And guess what?

Speaker A:

They said, y' all from Chi Town.

Speaker A:

Dead ass.

Speaker A:

They was like, y' all from Chi Town?

Speaker A:

We're like, nah, we from Oakland.

Speaker A:

They like, oh, okay, neighbors.

Speaker B:

Cause we flashy too.

Speaker B:

We was like, all right, y' all about something.

Speaker B:

What's going on?

Speaker A:

Yeah, Oakland's nice.

Speaker B:

And the connection to Chicago and Oakland, though, like, Black Panther shit.

Speaker B:

Yes, so that too.

Speaker A:

So, yes, a lot of that.

Speaker A:

I actually shout out to one of my homegirls that actually has a.

Speaker A:

That she just started off with the Black Panthers and they do a lot for the foster youth.

Speaker A:

She actually shout out to her.

Speaker A:

She came out to my event and just kind of, you know, was handing out flyers and educating the kids about, you know, the movement back in the day.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I appreciate that.

Speaker A:

So what's up?

Speaker A:

What you got coming up next?

Speaker A:

I know you working dad, you know, you trying to do your acting gig.

Speaker A:

You still in the rap game.

Speaker A:

What's coming up?

Speaker A:

What you got next?

Speaker B:

I mean, shoot, everything is always moving simultaneously, which is great, you know, but it's always like when something gonna pop up and then you gotta pivot, you know, with your schedule and do all of this.

Speaker B:

But being a milk man is pretty.

Speaker B:

It's lucrative.

Speaker B:

And it's flexible.

Speaker B:

It's flexible, too.

Speaker A:

So do you wear the white costume?

Speaker A:

The white uniform with the thing and drop off the milk, like, for real?

Speaker B:

I do.

Speaker B:

I don't come to the crib.

Speaker B:

Cause I'm in the tanker.

Speaker B:

But I'm at the location.

Speaker B:

I'm on location.

Speaker A:

Everybody needs a working man.

Speaker A:

I don't want an industry man.

Speaker A:

I want a working man.

Speaker A:

You know what I mean?

Speaker A:

Right, Percy.

Speaker A:

Look how Percy looking.

Speaker B:

He ain't nothing but no, I'm trying to.

Speaker B:

I'm trying to make that.

Speaker B:

That transition.

Speaker B:

So I'm only doing entertainment.

Speaker B:

That's what I want to do.

Speaker B:

Because I.

Speaker B:

Funny thing, I feel like that would give me more freedom, but maybe not.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Cause, well, you'll be away from the kids a little bit.

Speaker B:

And that's why I'm like, ugh, out of time.

Speaker A:

I feel like it'll cause a strain.

Speaker A:

It definitely caused a strain on me.

Speaker A:

And, you know, and that's why, you know, I was just telling people, like, I want to try to focus on my life.

Speaker A:

My, you know, where am.

Speaker A:

What am I going to do?

Speaker A:

I don't want to be sitting here 70, at a podcaster.

Speaker A:

I just don't.

Speaker A:

So that's why I kind of build a network to give other people podcasters A platform to be on and do this work.

Speaker A:

But I do love it.

Speaker A:

But I will tell you, it will like, you will be away from the fam.

Speaker A:

Like, you took the flight out here now.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B:

And like I said, I mean, I've been doing it, but it's like, at least I'm like, I'm going in and out when I can.

Speaker B:

You know, if I'm completely immersed in it, I can't.

Speaker B:

And I'm dealing with managers, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker B:

You gotta be here.

Speaker B:

You can't do this.

Speaker B:

And so right now, everything that I'm able to do, I'm my own manager.

Speaker B:

I manage my own shit.

Speaker B:

Same, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

A lot of people would try to get you, hey, you need this person, you need X, Y, Z. I don't know.

Speaker B:

And I'm like, if you don't know that person, they don't have your best interests at heart.

Speaker B:

They might be setting you up to do this, that, and the third, you know, I'm not turning my back to it, but it's kind of like a.

Speaker B:

When that person comes along and I know it's the right fit, then it's the right fit.

Speaker B:

It'll be organic, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

No, it'll be totally organic.

Speaker B:

Like, with the Then on the music, it's just like.

Speaker B:

Like I was talking to you when we first, like, linked up.

Speaker B:

I'm one of the last people that got a joint with Diddy on it.

Speaker B:

So that joint is called All, Man.

Speaker B:

You could hit up my.

Speaker B:

My title playlist and that joint is there right now for the.

Speaker B:

Listen to it.

Speaker B:

Because of the whole situations with him.

Speaker B:

It's not on stream.

Speaker B:

We pulled it from the streaming services.

Speaker A:

Why?

Speaker B:

The producer, OG1 Portland Trailblazers DJ, he produced the joint.

Speaker B:

Like the actual DJ for the Trailblazers.

Speaker B:

He produced the track, got at me on it and was like, yo, you know, I got some connects and could do this, that, and the third for you.

Speaker B:

And he's like, been seeing my ascension, you know, in my career.

Speaker B:

So he made that connection happen.

Speaker B:

So he decided to pull it, which I understand, for whatever reason, but it's still available through me.

Speaker B:

Through the title.

Speaker B:

The title, yeah.

Speaker B:

So that's why I'm like, hey, you can still get it.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

To hear it.

Speaker B:

So it's no issues with it.

Speaker B:

It's just like, it's still available.

Speaker B:

I'm just glad it's still available for people to hear it.

Speaker A:

I mean, yeah, you got to work.

Speaker B:

With So it's amazing.

Speaker B:

So it was like he's just, he doing some little ad libs in it at the beginning of the joint.

Speaker B:

So it's just like again, another thing where it's like that fucking happened.

Speaker A:

How did you take that?

Speaker A:

Let's talk about that.

Speaker A:

We need some clickbait around here.

Speaker A:

Let's get juicy.

Speaker B:

See it was, it was before.

Speaker B:

It was before the situation.

Speaker B:

So it didn't even feel like nothing crazy.

Speaker B:

See what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So it was like, it was like over maybe six, like seven, eight months ago.

Speaker B:

So it was before anything happened.

Speaker B:

He's still throwing white parties and doing whatever the fuck.

Speaker A:

Have you been to any?

Speaker B:

Nah.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Thank God.

Speaker A:

I know that's kind of embarrassing.

Speaker B:

Oh my gosh.

Speaker A:

And that don't mean that they all were like overly the top sexual.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

Yeah, so it was just.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Thank God you didn't go.

Speaker A:

Cause there was a lot of baby oil there they say and you know.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

But funny thing, full circle.

Speaker B:

You silly.

Speaker B:

Full circle.

Speaker B:

Thing is that wasn't my first interaction with Diddy though.

Speaker B:

Like really?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So like about 10 years ago around and if people want to do their research, they can.

Speaker B:

It was the exact time when he got his star on Hollywood Walk of Fame when this happened, when we first met.

Speaker B:

So around that time I met him at his studio when he just got his star in la.

Speaker B:

I think they did.

Speaker B:

Yeah, in la he came back and that's when I met him.

Speaker B:

I was at his studio trying to have some get something happen in New York and some of his people there just like let me know, like, hey, you gonna be coming back from getting the star?

Speaker B:

Woo woo.

Speaker B:

And I'm like, oh yeah.

Speaker B:

So they let me like post up at the studio.

Speaker B:

That's a whole nother story, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

So like they.

Speaker B:

And come to find out when they got met.

Speaker B:

When he got there, I met him.

Speaker B:

Security got into a like little altercation because of me being so close in proximity.

Speaker B:

It was wild.

Speaker B:

But they was like, hey, no dude, cool.

Speaker B:

He been here, he know these people.

Speaker B:

So it got, the situation got calm but it was like we got to meet and I was coming there to meet him to like really like kind of get connected with him.

Speaker B:

And he now seeing this full circle play out with what's going on now.

Speaker B:

He pushed me away.

Speaker B:

Like he was like, hey, I'm not really working on rap right now, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker A:

Yeah, he was trying to store more baby oil.

Speaker A:

He was trying to collect More baby oil.

Speaker A:

And I'm never like this.

Speaker A:

I'm fucking people he trying to pull.

Speaker B:

Under his wings or people that know me are like, yo, you dodged it.

Speaker B:

Richer.

Speaker B:

You could have been closing the room, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

Oh, that's cool.

Speaker B:

Cold.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So do you think he really did that?

Speaker B:

Do I think that.

Speaker B:

Like, which part?

Speaker A:

Like, all of it with the.

Speaker A:

With the rappers and raping rappers and.

Speaker A:

And.

Speaker A:

And the butt stuff.

Speaker A:

Like, do you think.

Speaker A:

I mean, they found a thousand freaking baby.

Speaker A:

What was the baby oil.

Speaker B:

I like to say this about people that I don't know.

Speaker B:

Like, I don't know.

Speaker B:

I don't know the man.

Speaker B:

Met him, but I don't know him.

Speaker B:

I would.

Speaker B:

I wouldn't put it past them.

Speaker B:

That ain't super.

Speaker B:

I mean, baby oil.

Speaker B:

All right.

Speaker B:

I'm a freak too.

Speaker B:

So I.

Speaker B:

Whatever.

Speaker B:

The baby oil.

Speaker B:

I ain't tripping on the baby oil.

Speaker A:

Like, that's a big thing, though.

Speaker B:

It's funny.

Speaker B:

But I ain't tripping on a baby oil.

Speaker A:

What the heck is so thin?

Speaker A:

Baby oil.

Speaker B:

Like baby oil lubrication.

Speaker B:

Spit.

Speaker B:

Get a day hydration.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's a little different.

Speaker A:

But baby oil ain't that.

Speaker A:

It ain't.

Speaker B:

But the whole traffic and that's.

Speaker B:

That's another level.

Speaker B:

So that kind that I'm not with.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

All the super freak.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

I'm not against you trans.

Speaker B:

You wanna do this?

Speaker B:

You wanna same.

Speaker A:

I respect that.

Speaker B:

Come off your nipple.

Speaker B:

Crazy shit.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I'm not even against that.

Speaker B:

You that wild?

Speaker B:

Get wild.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

But where it cut off for me is like, the kids.

Speaker B:

The kids.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Like with trafficking.

Speaker B:

Even if it's you trafficking teenagers and shit, that's crazy.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Chris Brown, I think too.

Speaker B:

Like, all them youngsters in there, if you doing that.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's.

Speaker B:

Now, I'll tell you this.

Speaker A:

That is wrong.

Speaker B:

I seen some shit myself.

Speaker B:

Mm.

Speaker B:

You seen.

Speaker B:

I've been able to do certain things and get into certain rooms and I've seen some shit to where I walked in the room this motherfuckers in.

Speaker B:

I've been invited to a party.

Speaker B:

It's motherfuckers in robes in a room in a circle and candles and shit.

Speaker B:

I closed the fucking door and kept my ass walking down the hallway at.

Speaker A:

One of the celebrity parties.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

That's why I don't wanna.

Speaker A:

I don't go to that stuff.

Speaker A:

I'm scared.

Speaker B:

So to know that I got to see that with my own eyes and be like, yeah.

Speaker B:

So I know.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

That shit Happens.

Speaker A:

Why do you think, what is it?

Speaker A:

I think people get to a level of money or fame and they lose their mind.

Speaker A:

That's what I really think.

Speaker A:

I think they be losing.

Speaker A:

They dang on mind.

Speaker A:

The money change them.

Speaker B:

And it's.

Speaker B:

If you don't have a good base, if you don't have a good sense of self, you liable to do anything, go anywhere, trust anybody.

Speaker B:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B:

You got to have a good sense of self within you, a good antenna within you.

Speaker A:

That's right.

Speaker B:

To be like, if I go do this, what's going to come of this?

Speaker B:

Do I need this?

Speaker B:

You know me, it's like, all right, things are happening.

Speaker B:

I got cache with people, good conversationalists.

Speaker B:

Things aren't happening as fast as I want them to, but if they happen, if it's moving, let it move.

Speaker B:

How it's moving.

Speaker B:

You don't need to start doing out of crazy shit to.

Speaker A:

Yeah, that's what I say.

Speaker A:

Like, why go out your.

Speaker A:

Well, maybe that is that character.

Speaker B:

Some people it is.

Speaker B:

And then, you know, they always say, you know, you might not ever want to meet your idols.

Speaker B:

Cause they might be your rivals and you.

Speaker B:

So that kind of stuff too.

Speaker B:

I've met certain people, it's like, oh, that's.

Speaker B:

I didn't feel good.

Speaker B:

So you looking at people from afar.

Speaker B:

You don't know these people up close.

Speaker B:

Yeah, the industry you could get around.

Speaker B:

You get around people, you feel a different energy.

Speaker B:

You be like, oh, that ain't how it was.

Speaker B:

So this still feel like you could be talked on the phone.

Speaker B:

The energy could be different if you meet somebody.

Speaker B:

So it be like that in real life with other celebrities.

Speaker A:

I've had a couple on the show.

Speaker B:

And even just normal people, you know.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Had a few on the show that I thought, oh my God, I love them.

Speaker A:

I listen to their music or I see them on tv.

Speaker A:

Then they get here and it's like, oh, that's what?

Speaker B:

Vibes of energy.

Speaker A:

Different vibes.

Speaker A:

I don't really do well with that.

Speaker A:

But what would you tell the people though?

Speaker A:

Like, what do you see yourself in five years?

Speaker A:

I always ask everybody that because where do you see us by yourself in five years?

Speaker A:

Like right now, today, five years, where would you want to be?

Speaker B:

Well, definitely.

Speaker B:

Mo money.

Speaker B:

Mo money.

Speaker B:

Mo money.

Speaker B:

Mo money.

Speaker A:

That was a dumb question.

Speaker B:

Besides money and being able to do this full time and having more notoriety about what's going on with my situation.

Speaker B:

So that's what I see.

Speaker B:

More notoriety, more money and bigger situations.

Speaker B:

Yeah, more the Same.

Speaker A:

So you don't feel like you found your purpose then?

Speaker B:

I'm living my purpose right now.

Speaker B:

What is that shit?

Speaker B:

Being on television, putting my music out, being in movies, sitcoms, commercials.

Speaker B:

Getting more networking, availability to do bigger and better things.

Speaker A:

Well, you locked in with King Meek over there, so I think you good.

Speaker A:

Cause he did the connect.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's the homie.

Speaker B:

I've been blessed to meet great people along this way.

Speaker B:

I met some fuck people and same.

Speaker B:

They will get shitted on accordingly as I continue.

Speaker B:

Cause that's just how I roll.

Speaker A:

Just give him a little tissue to.

Speaker B:

Wipe and clean up after.

Speaker A:

Well, any last words before we wrap this up?

Speaker A:

Cause I'll say this.

Speaker A:

I'm so happy you flew out the team.

Speaker A:

You made me feel like special, like, okay, maybe I am a celebrity, I'm just playing.

Speaker A:

But you know, but no, I would like to know because, you know, I'm sure you looked at me.

Speaker A:

I always ended with this because I always want to know, especially for my foster youth, because I do this for them.

Speaker A:

And I always ask people, what would you tell troubled youth?

Speaker A:

Something positive that may can help them for the future.

Speaker B:

Find something, Stay with something that keeps you positive and keeps you in a great space, a happy space.

Speaker B:

And just don't bother with the negativity.

Speaker B:

Just even if it's a list, write down a list of things that you can go back to and look at.

Speaker B:

If you getting too brain foggy about too many bad things happening, refer back to a positive list and keep hitting those things on that positive, affirm, affirmative list of things to keep yourself in a good space.

Speaker B:

That's what I would say.

Speaker A:

I like that.

Speaker A:

Well, I'm excited to tell your daughter happy birthday.

Speaker A:

She'll be 11.

Speaker A:

Please put on a Spongebob suit.

Speaker B:

Me a picture.

Speaker A:

I need to see that.

Speaker A:

We love good dads around here.

Speaker A:

We love fathers like you said, you know, later on in life and even, you know, shout out to King over there like, you know, growing up without a father, you.

Speaker A:

It kind of hit different.

Speaker A:

So when you come to, you know, and you live in your purpose and your truth and now you're a good father and able to give to your children, I take my hat off to you and I love you for that because you're raising our next generation.

Speaker B:

That's the reality of it.

Speaker A:

And that's.

Speaker A:

That's the reality of it.

Speaker A:

So I appreciate you from sticking in there, you following your dreams, you doing the best you can, you being a good father, a good husband, I hope and I giving her a headache and, you know, relieving the stress off of her.

Speaker A:

But you know what?

Speaker A:

We thank you for coming in with turning your hustle into a legacy.

Speaker A:

And that is a wrap, y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker A:

My guy.

Speaker A:

My guy, Rich.

Speaker A:

Rambo.

Speaker B:

Rambo Rich.

Speaker A:

Rambo Rich.

Speaker A:

He knows.

Speaker A:

Cut that part out.

Speaker A:

How you keep it.

Speaker A:

That part.

Speaker A:

Rambo Rich.

Speaker A:

I'm tired.

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