Being able to simply ask the simple question, "Am I Happy?", can be quite challenging to some. It is not enough to be able to go through and intentionally live a life that may have qualities of believing that you are happy, but embodying a fully-developed, fully-conscious definition of what makes you happy to begin with. Today's guest, Piret, has devoted her life to fulfilling that answer to that simple question despite all of the areas in our lives that can contain the antithesis of unhappiness. With the many angles of her life that she can continued to work on, learn how just a simple answer to this question can make all the difference in the purpose-driven decisions you can make in your life to be more fulfilled, more enriched, and more personally (and professionally!) developed in the world.
Guest Bio
Piret is a happiness expert and self proclaimed happiest person in the world. Her goal is to influence everyone to enjoy and celebrate life, to create more joyful energy in our world. In her teachings she uses mixed modalities. Some of them are mindfulness, movement, subliminal conversation and neuro linguistic programming. She is originally from Estonia and has been living in United States, in Florida since 2004. She is also an author of the book "Joyful Life Jumpstart" and host a YouTube channel and podcast Happiness with Piret.
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Intro/Outro By: Michael Dugan, Podcast Host: Voice4Chefs
Welcome to the podcast where relationships, confidence, and
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determination all converge into
an amazing, heartfelt experience.
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This is Speaking From The Heart.
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Joshua: Welcome back to episode number
84 of Speaking from the Heart, and
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today we have a happiness expert
with us that will be talking about a
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variety of different subjects as it
relates to the concept of being happy.
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Her name is Piret, and as I mentioned,
she is an expert in happiness,
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but also self proclaims herself as
the happiest person in the world.
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Her goal is to influence everyone to
enjoy and celebrate life to create
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more joyful energy in our world.
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In her teachings, she uses mixed
modalities and some of them
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include mindfulness, movement,
subliminal conversation, and
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neuro-linguistic programming.
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She is originally from Estonia and
has been living in the United States,
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in Florida specifically, since 2004.
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She is the author of the book Joyful Life
Jumpstart and also hosts her own YouTube
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channel and podcast called Happiness with
Pirette, which I was fortunate enough
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to also be on her show to talk about
the topic of anxiety, which I will put
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a link in the episode notes if you want
to go and check her out, particularly
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about my episode, along with her other
episodes as well, but what I really
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got out of this conversation more than
anything else is not to make this big
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overproduction of what we need to do to
just figure out what we need to have in
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our lives to be able to understand and
create those best opportunities that
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we continuously talk about on the show.
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This episode really simply talks about
the concept of happiness and how we can
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get ourselves to be there And I think
beyond anything else that we will ever do
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or ever say in our lives If we can just
focus on the happiness aspect of it, we
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can achieve greatness in so many different
ways, which I think you will find our
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conversation not only above and beyond
those lines, but how she got to that
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point of being that happiest person in the
world, because if I was anything like her,
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I would love to be happy all the time, and
I know that I can strive to be that based
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on our conversation that we had today.
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But with that, let's go to the episode.
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Alright, we're here with Piret.
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Piret!
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Thanks for sharing your
heart with us today.
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Piret: Hi Josh.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for having me in your show.
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Joshua: Yeah, absolutely.
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This is really a return favor
because I was recently on your show
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a number of months ago and I really
was excited that I was part of it.
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We connected and we're like, "Hey,
why don't you have me on the show?"
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I'm like, "Perfect.
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Let's do that.", so thanks so much for
taking some time to talk with us today.
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I really want to start with this question
because I already introduced you to the
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audience and many people are probably
scratching their heads when I introduced
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you, saying, "What's a happiness expert?
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I've never heard of such a concept
before.", so, in your own experience,
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in your own words, can you let our
audience know what a happiness expert is?
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Piret: Well, the way I see it as well, and
when I started using that, so I've been a
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happy person since I remember myself, so
it's kind of lucky or, I don't think, I
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don't say it's lucky, but I'm being happy
inside since I remember, but, there were
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points in my life when I saw other people
not having the same feeling, and not being
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able to be the way I was, so, at one point
I started thinking, "Well, how can I teach
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them or help them to feel the same way?",
and why I decided that after learning
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everything, how other people were teaching
happiness and everything, I learned that
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a lot of people who teach happiness, they
actually by themselves, they're not happy.
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They just teach facts, like science
behind the happiness, what to do,
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but then they start talking how, they
themselves, they don't feel it, and that's
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why I was like the way I think I'm an
expert because first of all, I am happy.
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I'm expert because I'm happy.
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Why I can teach others, because I
know how it feels, and I know how to
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teach others what I feel, so I wanted
to share what I have with others.
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I learned how to do it.
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I didn't just start like this.
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I learned also how to teach.
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Joshua: I love that because a lot of
people sometimes go through life feeling
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absolutely miserable, and I can tell
numerous examples to you and even the
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audience, my listeners, about how some
of those people have been a negative
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influence on me because I let their
negativity, their unhappiness, rub
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off on me, but I actually found this
really interesting and I want to let the
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audience know this too again that you
lived in Estonia for a period of time up
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until about 2004; you lived in Florida.
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Why did you move to the United States?
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I'm just curious what
that background story is.
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Piret: Well, I was born in Estonia.
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Actually, I was born when it was
still under Russia, so I was about
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10 years old when we were separated
from Russia again, and when I moved
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here, I kind of had the feeling that
I want to move here since I was 16.
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I don't know why, and then when I
finally moved, I was about 23, and
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it's actually a funny story as well.
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I did a training for
hospitality, and I had a choice.
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We had a really cold winter, but I
had a choice as their hospitality
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trainee to go to my internship,
either in England or in Florida,
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so that was the easy choice there.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Piret: Do I go to England
after the cold winter?
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Do I go to England to have more cold
or do I go to Florida, so that's
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how I ended up in the United States.
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Joshua: I imagine then you must
have fell in love with being in
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the sunny weather of Florida, which
I've been to Florida a few times.
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I've been to Disney World.
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I have enjoyed it, but it's something
that I love the four seasons, so living
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where I'm at in Pennsylvania is something
that I absolutely don't want to give
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up whatsoever, but is it something
that you enjoy just being down there
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in Florida and enjoying the weather?
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Does that make you happy?
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Piret: Joshua, that's a little bit
different as well, because I do like
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Florida, but I like four seasons as well.
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I actually do prefer four seasons,
but summertime in Florida is really
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hard, because summer is where
everybody else in other places in our
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country, they can go out and play.
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Here it's so hot, you have to sit
inside, so you know like on cold, summer
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cold, like I have people, friends in
Canada, and then in the wintertime
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they pretty much can't go out as much.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Piret: In the summertime in Florida, we
just go from inside the building to the
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car and then inside the building again
because it's just too hot to be outside.
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Joshua: See, I think it was the opposite
from some people that I've heard,
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but I won't go into that right now.
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Piret: But wintertime, I do like
it in the wintertime when I see on
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the TV that everybody else is in
the snow and I have sunny weather
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outside, that's when I do like it.
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Joshua: I think that we all
have our seasons that we enjoy.
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I enjoy fall so much just because of
the leaves turning and having the cooler
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weather, things of that nature, so I
think there's some people that absolutely
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appreciate it and I guess that's just how
they check into their happiness, which,
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Piret, just getting back to what we were
just talking about, with you being a
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happiness expert, I noticed that you do
a lot of different types of techniques,
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but the one thing that stood out to
me the most when you work with people
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is doing neuro-linguistic programming.
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Can you talk a little bit about your
approach to that, because it's something
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that I'm sure our audience has no
idea or maybe have never heard of it.
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I know I personally have never
heard of it, so I'd love to hear a
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little bit about how you do that.
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Piret: Mm hmm.
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Well, neurolinguistic programming is
pretty much working with the thoughts
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in your head and thoughts that you're
saying to yourself, especially your
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self talk, so we pay attention on what
are we talking inside, listening what
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your thoughts, you tell me what you're
thinking, and we're going to figure
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out what thoughts are positive, what
are negative, what are beneficial for
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you, and what is not beneficial to
you, and then the ones that not good
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for you, we keep them; we anchor them.
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Different neurolinguistics
practitioners, they use different words.
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The word that I use when I want to keep
some thought, I say anchor, and the ones,
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the thoughts that I don't want to keep,
I cancel them, so this way you learn,
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when I talk with you, I learn to keep
your positive thoughts, and I cancel your
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negative thoughts, and after a while,
the client will learn to do the same
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with their own thoughts, so when they
have positive thoughts, they will say
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anchor, and it stays in their mind, and
if some kind of negative thought comes
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to their mind, they will say cancel.
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Joshua: Is there a certain
approach in terms of a certain
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clientele that you use this with?
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In other words, does it work more
effectively with people, like maybe the
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Joe Schmo that comes off the street,
maybe has nothing really serious
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going on in their life, and maybe that
anchoring really helps them to maybe
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feel more focused and more positive,
as opposed to somebody that has been
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through some trauma in their life.
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Do you see a difference with some
people that you've worked with?
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If so, can you talk about
those differences, like how
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impactful they have been?
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Piret: The way I see the people with
trauma and everything, for them it's
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harder and takes longer practice,
because they still have this record
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in their head, and it plays and
it plays and it's hard to stop.
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If somebody who's most things in their
life has been easy, it's easier for them.
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They don't have too many repeating
thoughts, but somebody with trauma,
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they have not just repeating thoughts,
they have repeating images, so good
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thing to include with neuro linguistic
programming is guided meditation where
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they actually visualize the things,
instead of just having this talk and
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thoughts and speaking, they're actually
able to visualize the experience that
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they had and then they work through that.
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Joshua: It's almost like
talking it out loud.
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Is that fair to say, or
is it much more than that?
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Piret: Neurolinguistic programming,
it's more than that because you
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actually change their thoughts.
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With long term practice, you're
actually able to change your thoughts
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so those negative thoughts don't
arise almost never, or very rarely.
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Joshua: That's really interesting in
itself because for me, and Piret, I
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shared this with you on your show and I'll
share it with my listeners just about the
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struggles that I've had with that self
talk because I have these scripts already
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in my head growing up that I need to say
this in order for myself to get to point
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A to point B, but that same script might
not always work in every single situation,
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and it has to change, especially with some
of the circumstances that surround it.
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I mean, obviously it got me into a place
where I realized that if I don't make
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a change pretty soon, I'm going to have
to make some course corrections down
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the road, which obviously I had to in
order to adapt, which speaking of which,
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I noticed on your website, you have a
lot of certifications that talk about
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really your ability to work with others
as a life coach, mental health coach.
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With all those certifications that
you have, does that help you to
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understand getting into other people's
ability to be able to do things like
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neuro-linguistic training and even some
of the other techniques that you use?
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In other words, does this help you
get more engaged with your clients?
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Do you feel that they appreciate
that you've been through all
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these different types of things?
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I mean, I feel that, and feel free to
challenge me on this because I feel that
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nowadays, and I've had this conversation
with other coaches on my show about,
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"Yeah, we could just make a website
tomorrow, call ourselves a coach and we're
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in business", but for many people, they
don't realize that there's a discipline
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and also having to go through different
trials and tribulations, whether in
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life, whether through education, whether
through other means to get to where
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we are so we can provide that advice.
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Do you think that helps
you become more credible?
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Piret: I don't think that helps
me to become more credible,
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but it helps me to know more.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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Piret: So I like those certifications,
and I actually have more, but I have just
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some listed there that I want people to be
aware of, to know what my qualifications
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are, but I learn from everything.
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I learn from books, I learn from
shows, I learn from meeting people.
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I learn all the time.
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Learning is one of my main
things that I love doing.
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Joshua: Absolutely.
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Piret: So, because like you were
saying right now, I just saw really
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funny posting as well, where we're
saying that, everybody can go
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now to your YouTube university.
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There's YouTube university.
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You can just graduate from
there knowing everything.
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Joshua: Yeah.
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I've seen those self proclaimed
individuals and that's why I'm not out
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in the YouTube universe, at least not
yet, and I will laugh at myself later on
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when I'm at episode 184 and say, "Yes,
I finally ventured into that because I
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feel like I have overcome that.", so-
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Piret: Mm-Hmm.
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Joshua: I totally understand that
comment very well, so Piret, I want you
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to tell us a little bit about that big
successful client that you've had or
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somebody that you've worked with, and
I know you work with couples too, so
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that's fair game with this question.
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What would you say has been your
successful individual or individuals
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that you've worked with that have were
on the completely opposite spectrum
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of where they started, and they
got all the way to the other side.
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Of course, I'll ask you to withhold their
names, just for confidentiality, but, I
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was wondering if you could share a little
bit of that success with our audience.
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Piret: Yeah, that's the thing, what I
always keep them really confidential,
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like you said, you're going to be
named it because there's been some
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out there and usually with happiness,
people don't want to show other people
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publicly that they actually unhappy.
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They don't want to know other people know
that they are unhappy, and that's okay.
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For me, that's okay for the client because
they want to present them in one way,
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but they now actually want to feel the
same way inside as well, but like you
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were saying, to have examples, I had
some examples, especially with people
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just finding out that their marriage is
ending, and right in that moment to get
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them really fast to the comfort zone and
figure it out, everything, and I've had
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some people who were previous addicts.
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That's really hard to go with the addict
to keep them going in the road, so in
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the beginning of when I first started
coaching, I remember it was challenging
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in the beginning to learn to work with
them, but after I figured out how to
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work with them, it helped as well, so I
was able to keep them on the right road,
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so I would say that I'm most proud of.
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Joshua: That's awesome in itself,
because marriage and divorce all the
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way to being an addict, recovery,
although somewhat different trends,
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they have some similarities in terms of
how you get to that road of recovery,
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and you brought up something that I'm
actually really curious about now.
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You mentioned that there's been challenges
that you've had to overcome with even
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dealing with some of those clients
and maybe even refining your practice.
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What would you say, especially as you
started out with your practice, what would
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you say is your biggest challenge that
you had, and how did you overcome that?
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Piret: I'm going to be
honest, Josh, with you.
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Biggest challenge for me was to ask money.
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Joshua: Oh yes, I know
that game very well.
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Piret: I know.
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Joshua: Knowing your worth.
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Piret: That's why I was like,
"Should I say the honest answer?"
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Honest answer was to charge money because
I felt like since I've been kind of doing
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it even when I was younger, my friends
and everybody, they came to me for advice,
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so they were actually, my friends, when
I was in high school, they were saying,
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"You should go study psychology", and
everything like that, but I went on
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traveling and doing other things instead,
but they came to me asking for help, so-
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Joshua: Early on in even my business, I
had to learn that it is about charging
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your worth, so even your best friend
that maybe has been with you from
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the get go with whatever you've been
doing is about being able to still
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charge what you're worth, and I had
to learn that lesson the hard way too.
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I think all of us do and it's just a
matter of realizing that we bringing
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value and isn't always about the money.
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I've talked about this.
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I had a coach on here, a sales coach
by the name of Kyle Slaymaker early
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on the program that really has talked
about not only knowing that worth, but
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knowing the fact that it isn't to say
that they are demeaning you or creating
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that opportunity for them to be able to
get the fruits of what you've been doing.
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It's really about learning
something that you have perfected.
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Or something that you have really achieved
that can be shared, and I think there's
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no shame in that, Piret, for sure, because
I learned that the hard way in itself.
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Piret: But actually, when you get over
asking money, ,then it starts feeling
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good when you're actually comfortable
asking the money and people paying you
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that that part already feels good, so when
you overcome that feeling of, "Oh, I'm
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going to ask money", and you finally start
asking the money, that is a good feeling.
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Joshua: It is.
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It's almost as if you're achieving that
value for yourself too, and I know for
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me, it's not just about having people
as clients, or being able to put on a
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workshop and have a number of attendees
or things of that nature, it's really
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about the satisfaction of knowing that my
worth is being radiated across the world
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through those individuals that are going
forth after going through that program,
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or going through that session that we
have together, so it's always important.
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Piret, I want to talk a little bit
about your YouTube channel, which for
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my listeners, I'll put it in the episode
notes so that they can access it, but I
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have obviously been featured on your show.
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I can absolutely leave a link for those
that are interested in checking out when
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I was with you, in which we talked about
really not just getting over anxiety, or
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the biggest topic of them all, because
I have definitely been through the
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gambit of that with my story, but I love
your approach in that you have several
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different topics that you talk about
which relate to happiness, whether it's
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about masculinity, whether it's about
communication, my favorite, which I have
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to go check out because I just noticed it
is about autism, which I have found out
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earlier last year that I was autistic.
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Why all these different types of topics,
because I feel like you could just
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focus on one niche and say, "Yeah,
I'm going to talk about this type of
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happiness and be an expert about it."
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Why so many different topics?
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Are you trying to be able to cover
all those different gambits and try
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to reach as many people as possible?
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I'm just curious about
your thoughts on that.
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Piret: Oh, no.
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It's not about reaching as many people
as possible, for me it's because,
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first, I was planning to do just about
happiness, but I realized there are
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so many people who don't even think
about happiness yet, so I had to find
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some kind of platform for helping them.
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The reason why I did the anxiety
episodes was I was trying to help the
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people with anxiety get to the point
where they can handle their anxiety
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and then move towards happiness, but
they can't just move straight from
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anxiety right to happiness, so I had
to get the issue with happiness first.
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No, issue with anxiety first, and
then go towards happiness, but I
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had another one that I just did, a
new one, what I did after happiness,
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was, if you see the playlist, the
playlist has men's guide to happiness-
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Joshua: Mm-hmm.
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Piret: So that was really
interesting to do because I have
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20 episodes, just with men, about
happiness and men's point of view.
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Joshua: I like that because for so
many different people, it has all
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kinds of different faces, perspectives,
different types of dimensions to it.
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I can completely understand.
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You do something that I don't do, which
is to actually livestream, and I think
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for my fellow listeners that don't know
what that is like to be live streaming
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this, and then being able to have it
published right away, is there a little
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bit of a heightened anxiety in itself,
kind of since we're talking about
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that, to do this sort of episodes live?
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Piret: In the beginning, it could
have been, but what happened,
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what I did, Joshua, what I
did, it's a good story as well.
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The way before I knew that I wanted to
live and podcast on YouTube and video.
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I took a course of online, on video
improv classes, so the goal there is
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you go online, and you have to look as
silly as possible and do all kinds of
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silly things with your face, with your
impressions, talking gibberish, and I did
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all that and I just got comfortable in
front of the camera after doing all the
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silly things, so everybody's wondering
how to learn to be on a camera: go take
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some online improv classes that you have
to be on a camera and doing silly things.
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Joshua: It's just about experimenting
and just getting right into it so
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that you feel a lot more comfortable,
and that's even what I say to my
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public speaking clients is just do it.
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And see where it goes and get the
feedback and start doing it again.
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See what happens, do it again.
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It makes you feel a little
bit better, so I completely
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understand that, and I love that.
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I actually really appreciate you being
so bold enough to do that because
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some people are very afraid of that.
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Glossophobia, the fear of public
speaking, even on a video format, even
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being live stream, can be very scary.
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Piret: Yeah, I think maybe the first
classes when I did that improv, maybe
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I had more anxiety then as well, but
like you're saying, like the more
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you do it, it just goes away, so by
the time I actually started my own
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show, I was already comfortable.
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Joshua: And that's good;
I'm glad to hear that.
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Piret, before we close up, I want
to actually reference the fact that
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you've written a book, and it's
called Joyful Life Jumpstart, and
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I'll also put this in the episode
notes in case anybody's interested.
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It is available on Amazon, on your
Kindle, or even a paperback, but
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why write a book about happiness?
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I will tell you that I've had some
people, I've had a friend of mine, Dr.
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Hector Ortiz, he was recently on the show.
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He shared his books about the fact
that in order to gain the ability to
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professionally grow and even have a
fulfilling life, there is even a component
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of happiness with it, so why write a book
is always my question for my authors.
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Piret: Well, this book, I have another
book that I'm writing now that's more
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about happiness, but that book, Joyful
Life J umpstart was because I wanted
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to give people tools how to get into a
positive mindset, and the way it came
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to me is asking why people have feeling
of start to writing a book it was just
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already writing it in my mind, so it
was writing in my mind by itself and I
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just had to start writing in a paper.
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I had a feeling like just start putting in
a paper, and in a book it actually teaches
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you how to deal with the past, and figure
out what you want for future and figure
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out where you are now and what steps you
have to take to make the future joyful.
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Joshua: I've definitely could have used
that book about three and a half, four
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years ago when I was going through what
I was going through Piret, so I must have
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missed the boat when I saw that book.
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Although I know I see that it was only
published just a few years ago, but
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even then, as I was going through the
midst of it, I would have loved to
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have that kind of book in my hands.
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Piret: Joshua, I wrote it
when there was COVID lockdown.
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Joshua: Okay.
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Piret: That's when I wrote it.
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Joshua: It's so funny to talk to people
that I've had on the show that have
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gone through the COVID shutdown and
they've had this spark of inspiration
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or they have really started something
that they always wanted to do, but they
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never could have the opportunity to do
so, so I always find it fascinating.
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I love the fact that you did
that during the COVID lockdown.
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Piret, we're almost at the end of our
time, but before I let you just share a
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little bit about how people can reach out
to you, I have one last question, and it
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does relate to this overall theme that
we've had to this show about happiness.
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I've talked to a number
of people in my business.
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I've been open for a little
over a year now, and I've have
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encountered many different people
that were either not as fulfilled,
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or not as happy, as they could be.
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They are struggling with finding that
identity of happiness because there's
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been some barriers that have been put
along the way, and that has created a
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lot of things for them to essentially
feel a little trepidation about being
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able to go through and think they
can have a happy, fulfilled life.
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If somebody listening to this would
stumble across this, and they are
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really interested in getting started
on how they can be happy, what would
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you recommend as really that first
step in achieving true happiness?
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What would you say is the
first action item, if you will?
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Obviously, they could go and
call you, but what if they didn't
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have that available to you?
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What would you say to them?
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Piret: Yeah, because my program is
really good, but before we get there,
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I would say if there's somebody who
really, really doesn't know yet,
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they have to take a little paper or
a little notebook and start writing
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out little things that they feel.
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"Oh, I felt happy", and say
like, "Oh, I had this good coffee
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and that made me feel happy."
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Start paying attention on those little
things that make them feel happy, even
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if it's just for a few seconds, few
minutes, but paying attention on things
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that make you feel good and happy, because
if you know what those things are that
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make you feel happy, either they're
activities or just items or things, then
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you can have more of them in your life,
because you're already mentally, you're
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already paying attention that, "Oh.
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Doing this walk in the morning",
or even just watching your favorite
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show, while it feels good, but
you mark down that it feels good.
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Joshua: I love that message because
some people think it's about, "Oh.
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I need to start a new routine", which
I did a whole series of episodes even
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earlier in this new 2024 year about
having to be able to set those goals,
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be able to set those expectations, but
it doesn't mean completely dropping
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everything that you used to do and do
it with two feet and jumping right into
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it, because that will set you up for
disaster, so it's really about being
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intentional and starting with the small
things, and I love that just writing it
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down can be the gateway to creating some
of that, so thanks for sharing that.
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Piret: And even just noticing if you
don't, if you're a person who doesn't
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like to write things down, at least
notice that I am feeling good right now.
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Joshua: Absolutely.
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Piret, thanks so much for doing
this and talking about this subject
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and even some of your experiences.
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If people are interested in reaching
out to you, how can they contact you?
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Do you have a website that
they can reach out to?
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I would love for you to take these last
few minutes and pitch yourself to my
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listeners, because I'm sure that all of
us could use a little bit more happiness,
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and maybe you can be that person for them,
so I'm going to give you the last few
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moments here to go ahead and share that.
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Piret: Mm-hmm, so the best way to
reach me is through my website, which
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is b y, and my name, p i r e t.Com,
and from there, the most popular
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package and the most impactful package
is Access Your Happiness, which
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is a two hour assessment session.
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and with that one, you're already pretty
much setting yourself up for having a...
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happier life or having
happy life for a long time.
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First of all, what we do there is we find
out what is your happiness gatekeeper, so
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what's holding you back from feeling happy
or acknowledging that you're happy and
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then we're going to find out what are the
things that make you happy, and then set
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goals and make a plan how to have more of
those happy things in your life, and how
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00:30:51,441 --> 00:30:56,841
to do it, so that's my main package right
now, that's a one on one personal thing.
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That's what I'm promoting right now.
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00:31:00,593 --> 00:31:05,053
Joshua: Wow, and I think that
you, my listeners, can definitely
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take advantage of that.
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You take advantage of the fact
that she's written the book.
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You take advantage of the fact that I
was on her show, so I'm going to put
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all those things in the episode notes
again, if you want to check those things
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out, but Piret, I have to tell you
a little girl from Estonia coming to
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the big leagues of the United States.
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00:31:23,778 --> 00:31:28,118
I think you're making a big impact with
this important subject because happiness
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is something that we should all be able
to achieve, and I'm so thankful that
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00:31:31,868 --> 00:31:35,738
you have this assessment, so thankful
that you're leading that life and
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00:31:35,738 --> 00:31:39,148
you're leading that charge, especially
with all the things that you're doing.
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I appreciate you being on this show.
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Thanks for being on
speaking from the heart.
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It really has been a privilege to feel
a little bit happier and a little bit
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00:31:47,273 --> 00:31:49,823
more joyful after talking with you today.
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00:31:49,883 --> 00:31:50,873
I really mean that.
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Piret: Thank you, Joshua.
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Is there a time for me
to say a few more things?
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Joshua: Go ahead.
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This is your time.
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Piret: Well, one of the things that I
wanted to share as well was because I
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noticed that right now in our society,
being happy is not so acceptable.
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00:32:08,553 --> 00:32:13,063
People are looking for more sadness and
everything, so that's why I'm sharing
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00:32:13,063 --> 00:32:17,443
this and that's why I'm doing this
because I want to make more people to
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feel that they're allowed to be happy.
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A lot of people holding their back, they
might feel happy, but they feel that
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maybe I should not be feeling happy.
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00:32:26,926 --> 00:32:30,306
Society is not looking for
people to be happy yet.
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I think so.
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That's what it looks to me.
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Joshua: It's all about what we are able
to do to achieve not only that happiness,
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but to resist the fact that there
are societal, cultural pressures that
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might be creating some of that, or even
individual pressures for that matter, to
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be able to lead that happiness life, so,
Piret, thanks again for sharing that.
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Thanks again for being part of the show.
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00:32:54,696 --> 00:32:55,466
I appreciate it.
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00:32:55,616 --> 00:32:56,066
Piret: Yeah.
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00:32:56,246 --> 00:32:57,206
Thank you, Joshua.
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Thank you for doing your show.
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It's really important.
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Joshua: I want to thank Piret so much
for allowing me to not only be on her
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show, but allowing me to interview her
for my own podcast, because not only has
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this been a conversation worth diving
into, but it really dives into a simple
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concept in itself, which I mentioned
in the beginning of this episode.
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Are you happy?
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That's it.
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It's as simple as that.
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Can you just be happy with who you
are, or maybe what you want to achieve,
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for that matter, so that you can be
happy in the most simplistic form.
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00:33:34,860 --> 00:33:38,270
We don't need to dive into all kinds
of different types of techniques
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in which you can be happy.
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Pierrette's already done that for us, and
I highly encourage you to take a listen
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again to some of those opportunities
that she has mentioned, that maybe You
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00:33:48,925 --> 00:33:52,995
have forgotten that could be some of
those simple ways for you to be happy,
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but what thoughts, what self talk do we
really give ourselves, that really puts
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us behind the wheel of whether we're going
to be happy on a particular day or not,
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00:34:03,975 --> 00:34:05,765
and I've heard it time and time again.
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If you get up in bed, and before you
even put your two feet on the floor of
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your bed, you have to think about all the
different blessings that you have in your
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00:34:14,855 --> 00:34:18,975
life: that you're able to breathe, that
you're able to eat, you'd be able to have
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00:34:18,975 --> 00:34:24,114
another day in your life, but regardless
of all those different things, it's just
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about, simply, what are you happy about,
and I think that if we don't keep that
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00:34:29,815 --> 00:34:34,925
conversation tone in place about that
happiness aspect, it's going to just take
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longer for what we want to do to achieve
what is ultimately in the cards for us.
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I don't know many of you to really decide
whether I think that you're going to
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be happy if you just simply do that.
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It might be more involved; might be more
intense; it might be more exhilarating
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00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:59,590
of a life that you lead, to the
point that you might be asking, "This
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00:34:59,590 --> 00:35:02,880
episode is completely out of my league.
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00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:07,410
I don't think that I will ever be able
to learn the happiness aspect that Piret
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00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:12,910
shared with you today, Josh," but, I think
that you may be missing the mark as to
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what this episode really is all about.
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It isn't always about the things that
we do that might be the happiest of
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00:35:20,585 --> 00:35:23,765
moments because let's face it, we
have to do things that don't give us
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00:35:23,775 --> 00:35:28,435
great joy or great pleasure, therefore
not contributing to that happiness,
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00:35:29,085 --> 00:35:33,695
but it's about what the long term
aspirations of what our intentions are.
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00:35:34,115 --> 00:35:37,435
That's what makes us create some
of the best opportunities in our
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00:35:37,435 --> 00:35:40,105
lives to either be happy or not.
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It's about the books that we read.
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00:35:42,705 --> 00:35:46,005
It's about the television shows
that we might spend time watching.
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00:35:46,225 --> 00:35:49,315
It might be some of the close
associations of the people.
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00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:56,050
That might all, in cumulation, make
us happy, or make us not happy, but
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you have to address this from the many
different angles that it comes from.
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00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,200
It isn't just about doing one
thing and thinking that once
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00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,980
you perfect that you'll be okay.
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It's simply not true.
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00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:12,870
There's so much more than what meets
the eye sometimes when it comes to
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00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:18,965
being happy, but I think that if you
overindulge into many different things
534
00:36:18,975 --> 00:36:23,755
that are helping you to make yourself
happy, you might be also missing the
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00:36:23,765 --> 00:36:28,835
mark, because it isn't just about
having an underindulgence or having
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00:36:28,835 --> 00:36:31,075
an overindulgence of being happy.
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00:36:31,565 --> 00:36:36,575
It's about really meeting the balance
of what you can be from not only
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00:36:36,635 --> 00:36:42,315
helping others, helping yourself,
but also interacting with the various
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00:36:42,375 --> 00:36:46,905
other modalities in life that you
have to interact with, so it's really
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00:36:46,905 --> 00:36:51,055
about finding that platform that
makes you really happy to begin with.
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Don't know what I mean?
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00:36:53,725 --> 00:36:55,245
Let's break it down in an example.
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Say for me, I wanted to have something
that makes me happy all the time.
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00:37:00,755 --> 00:37:04,850
Well, if that was the case, I would be
strapping on my hiking boots, getting
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00:37:04,850 --> 00:37:09,610
my sticks out, putting my backpack
together, and be hiking on the Appalachian
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00:37:09,610 --> 00:37:14,720
Trail every time something goes wrong,
because I'm so fortunate enough to live
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00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,840
close to where the Appalachian Trail
connects, and I would be able to hike
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00:37:18,850 --> 00:37:20,810
either south or north, it doesn't matter.
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00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:24,114
Whatever way I want to go on the
Appalachian Trail, I can do that.
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I have that opportunity, but the
question is, is that really reasonable
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00:37:28,730 --> 00:37:30,370
to do every time something goes wrong?
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00:37:30,970 --> 00:37:32,120
Absolutely not.
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00:37:32,660 --> 00:37:35,370
I have a job; matter of fact, two jobs.
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00:37:35,370 --> 00:37:40,060
I have to appease for both of those jobs
in order to create that opportunity that
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00:37:40,060 --> 00:37:45,020
I can have down the road if I really
wanted to, to work on the Appalachian
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00:37:45,020 --> 00:37:49,590
Trail from the northern point to
the southern point where it ends.
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00:37:50,070 --> 00:37:53,320
I can do that, but that isn't balanced.
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That's an overindulgence.
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Now, at the same term, if it was something
that I was reading that I really enjoyed,
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that I wanted to continue reading,
but then I put it to the side and I
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00:38:05,780 --> 00:38:11,220
forgot about it, and then after that
amount of time that passes by before I
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00:38:11,220 --> 00:38:14,823
realize that I haven't read that book
in a while, that it might be time to
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00:38:14,823 --> 00:38:19,063
pick it up again, and then I forgot
where I was even at, does that make me
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happy that I have to start all over?
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00:38:21,233 --> 00:38:24,223
Probably not, because that
was a really good reading of
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a book that I had in my hand.
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Now I have a underindulgence.
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The right balance is that I can take
short sprints on the Appalachian Trail
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and continuously have a schedule in
which I read at least 20 to 30 pages
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a day of a book just so that I can
keep abreast of everything that I want
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to do in terms of my time management.
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That would make me happy, but that's just
one platform out of many things that we
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can address to create the opportunities
that we have in our lives to be happy.
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The tools and the concepts that Piret
even mentions about writing things
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00:39:00,698 --> 00:39:06,378
out, dealing with the past, helping
you flush out that negativity so that
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00:39:06,388 --> 00:39:11,138
you can be happy with who you are, are
just some of the basic building blocks
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that might help you to get started.
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It doesn't mean that you have to know
it all, and it doesn't mean that you
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00:39:17,863 --> 00:39:23,363
have to be happy every day, because we
are emotional creatures, and if there's
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00:39:23,363 --> 00:39:28,633
anybody that knows who is an emotional
creature, it is me, myself, and I, your
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00:39:28,673 --> 00:39:33,483
podcast host, that has struggled from
time and time again of the emotional
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00:39:33,483 --> 00:39:39,453
rollercoaster that takes place in my life,
but I think we all have those emotional
583
00:39:39,603 --> 00:39:43,623
rollercoasters because of the various
things that are demands in our time.
584
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Not only of our time, but also of our
space, the occupation of the things that
585
00:39:50,378 --> 00:39:56,048
we need to work on in order to have the
quality that we desire, whether that
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00:39:56,048 --> 00:40:00,198
is with our significant other, whether
that's with our children if we have them,
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00:40:00,638 --> 00:40:04,428
whether it's even with our mom and dad
that might be still living to this day.
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Regardless of the motivation or even
the technique in which you're trying to
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utilize, it's really about understanding
what those thoughts and perceptions
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are that help to create not just that
happiness that you have, but that
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00:40:17,583 --> 00:40:22,493
ability to keep moving forward; to keep
thinking that positive angle in your
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00:40:22,493 --> 00:40:25,253
life is really important to maintain.
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It really begs the question: should
I look for sadness, and I think
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this is the antithesis of really
this whole entire conversation.
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Don't take that time to look for sadness
if you're wanting to give it space.
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If you really are trying to give
it a opportunity to grow, you
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00:40:46,893 --> 00:40:48,753
don't look out for that sadness.
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You look out for the happiness, and
as much as sadness wants to creep up
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00:40:53,903 --> 00:40:57,903
in our hearts and minds from time to
time, especially if we have that as a
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00:40:57,903 --> 00:41:02,663
medical condition, which is true with
the things that we have learned in
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00:41:02,663 --> 00:41:04,713
the science of depression and anxiety.
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00:41:04,943 --> 00:41:09,773
Over the last 10 and 20 years, we know
for a fact that sadness can crawl into
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00:41:09,773 --> 00:41:16,098
our brains and make us feel like we
are just sacks of nothingness, but
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00:41:16,098 --> 00:41:18,058
we don't have to choose that path.
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00:41:19,118 --> 00:41:22,948
We have a constant opportunity to keep
moving forward, and keep choosing the
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00:41:22,948 --> 00:41:28,338
things that we want to choose, in order to
create that best value of who we are, so
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00:41:28,338 --> 00:41:32,868
the next time that you want to feel sad,
you're allowing it to occupy that space.
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00:41:34,008 --> 00:41:34,998
Don't do it.
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00:41:35,778 --> 00:41:39,768
You can be a happy person, and
I think Piret demonstrates today
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the importance of being able to
understand that happiness is a choice.
611
00:41:44,238 --> 00:41:47,778
A very conscious choice, and in
the matter of those choices that
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00:41:47,778 --> 00:41:53,433
we have, one thing rings true: we
don't have to sit in that forever.
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00:41:54,283 --> 00:41:59,953
We don't have to sit in that happiness
all the time, but it is okay to have
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00:41:59,953 --> 00:42:05,673
that perspective of happiness no matter
where we go, but we don't have to
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00:42:05,683 --> 00:42:10,943
be part of the group as a whole, not
being happy, because I think happiness
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00:42:11,233 --> 00:42:15,363
doesn't just come from what's in the
inside, but what we experience on the
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00:42:15,363 --> 00:42:19,903
outside, so next time that you're walking
down the street, or you're walking to
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00:42:19,903 --> 00:42:24,893
your office, or you're on that video
chat with someone, give them a smile.
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Make sure it's from cheek to cheek,
and let those people know that you are
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00:42:31,123 --> 00:42:33,863
showing that distinguishment of happiness.
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00:42:34,853 --> 00:42:38,713
You might not be feeling it, but that
other person might feel it for the
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00:42:38,723 --> 00:42:43,423
better, and I think that's what really
matters the most, that we can all be
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00:42:43,423 --> 00:42:48,703
happier no matter what we're going
through, because we have that ability
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00:42:48,863 --> 00:42:51,713
to project whether we're happy or sad.
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00:42:52,833 --> 00:42:57,203
I'd rather be happy more than anything
else, and I'd rather see your happy
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00:42:57,203 --> 00:43:03,033
face as I'm walking to my office,
walking to my car, maybe even on that
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00:43:03,033 --> 00:43:08,713
video chat the next time I see you,
because happiness is not just a gift.
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00:43:09,103 --> 00:43:10,733
It's an honor to receive.
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Thanks for listening to episode
number 84 of Speaking From the
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Heart, and I look forward to
hearing from your heart, very soon.
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Outro: Thanks for listening.
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