This episode is so incredibly important for all women to hear!!  Kate has the most next level money empowerment conversation with Money Coach, Brenda St. Louis - who brings master-level, pull back the curtain on the invisible beliefs that quietly sabotage women’s wealth, power, and financial freedom. 

Brenda brings a level of nuance and genius to money work that goes far beyond “budget better” advice. Together, they explore the emotional, somatic, and cultural conditioning that keeps women stressed, under-earning, self-sacrificing, and secretly ashamed around money—even when they’re wildly successful.

If you’ve ever felt like money is hard, confusing, overwhelming, or just not for you… this episode will crack something open.

Inside this episode:

• How patriarchal narratives shape female earning, spending, and receiving
• Why being “good” often means being broke—and how to dismantle that myth
• The unconscious guilt women carry for wanting more
• Why overwhelm is often a trauma response—not a budgeting issue
• How to rewire your money nervous system so wealth feels safe
• The sneaky ways shame keeps us stuck in financial loops
• What actually shifts when you stop hustling and start receiving

This is not a surface-level money chat. Brenda names what most experts don’t—and offers liberating truths that will expand how you see yourself, your value, and your earning potential.

If money has ever made you feel small, confused, emotional, or ashamed… this episode is for you. 

This conversation has the power to change everything about how you relate to money. You’ll want to replay it. Take notes. And share it with every woman you love.

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Money is energy. Wealth is peace. Healing is leadership.

Brenda St. Louis is an inspirational speaker, financial therapist, and money coach who helps people rewire their emotional and financial stories to experience peace, confidence, and joy with money. With over three decades of experience in business, healing, and personal growth, Brenda blends intuition, psychology, and financial literacy to show that money isn’t just numbers — it’s energy, emotion, and empowerment. She has created transformational programs that help high-achieving entrepreneurs and everyday earners break free from survival mode and step into alignment with their values, vision, and wealth potential.

Brenda is the author of The Lost Synapse and co-author of The Thought That Changed My Life Forever with Dr. Joe Dispenza and Bernie Siegel. Her work has been featured on numerous podcasts, radio, and TV programs, and she’s known for her grounded humour and her ability to turn complex money concepts into emotional clarity and practical action.

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Kate Harlow is the founder of The Unscriptd Woman, the creator of The Expanded Love Coaching Method, and host of The New Truth podcast - ranked in the top 1.5% globally. With over 15 years of experience teaching, coaching and facilitating transformational retreats worldwide, Kate has helped hundreds of thousands of women break free from outdated relational patterns, old patriarchal ways of thinking and unspoken rules to live by. 

Her infallible methods guide women to release the deeply ingrained scripts that keep them stuck- empowering women to step into their highest, most magnetic, and fully expressed selves. Through her coaching, retreats, podcast and upcoming book The Unscriptd Woman, Kate is redefining what it means to be an empowered woman in today's world, showing women how to stop waiting for permission and start creating a life and love that aligns with their deepest truth. 

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Brenda St. Louis: You're abandoning a part of your

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nervous system that needs to be regulated when you're doing it.

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A man could like a 24 hour system. That's how a man's body

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works in the health world, right? They and a woman has a 30

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day system. But it's similar if you're going into the bank when

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you're on your when you're on your period, your your emotions

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and what you're feeling and how you're going to make a decision

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is going to be very different than when you're ovulating,

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right? So knowing your physical body and how you operate is

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really important to lead with. When you work with money, you're

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not going to change the money system. And I think a lot of

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times we think we're going to change it. We just have to

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approach it fully embodied and fully regulated.

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Hello, my loves. I am so excited for you today.

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This episode has been a long time coming. There have been so

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many requests over the years for money episodes, we as women have

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been so disempowered around money and left blind and not

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educated, and I have brought on the perfect person to empower

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you around your perspectives around money. How you do money,

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your relationship with money? So if you're feeling any shame,

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guilt, doubt, blame any of those things and you're ready to

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change your relationship with money. This is the episode for

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you. Share it with every woman you know who needs to hear this

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message. I'm so excited to have you here. Brenda, hi. Brenda,

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hey. It's so good to be here, and it's so good to reconnect

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after so many years. We've known each other for quite some time.

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I know. How many years have we known each other? Probably 10. I

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would say, No, I've done my business for nine years, so it's

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longer than more than that, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. Like,

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it's probably like, maybe 15, yeah, yeah, because I think I

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knew you quite a few years before I started. Yeah, this so

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interesting how time flies. Yeah, it's wild. And who we've

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become in the last 15 years is pretty extraordinary. Yes, yeah,

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I still have goosebumps from all the things you just shared with

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me, everything you've been creating. You're now a published

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author of this epic book. Do you want to tell us a little tell

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everyone a little bit about it? Sure, it's my first fiction,

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like I've published nonfiction before, but this is called the

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Lost synapse, and it's fiction, but it's it was downloaded to

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me, and I've been working on it for probably 15 years, so maybe

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when we first met, I was starting it, and all the

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characters had been knocking on my door to come in. And it

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really is a book about transformation. It's young

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adult. It's about working with the mycelium network, which is

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really present right now for a lot of people, and the earth

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energy and how technology and the organic matter in our

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reality needs to have a relationship. Because I feel

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like the mass shift that we need to step on the planet, step up

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on the planet needs to happen. But the book itself is an

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adventure of kids that have coding ability, and they're

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working with trying to create a reality where empathy and

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compassion is the currency, rather than power and control

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and separation. And that's kind of the work that I want to do

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with money, because money has been this space of separation

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for so long for people, and I feel like it could be a conduit

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for connection if we change our lens and we look at it

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differently. So the story of money and the transactional

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universe is a lightly brushed in the book. It's a trilogy. So the

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second book kind of deepens how in our transactional reality, we

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start to have the power to create a deeper connection with

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each other, in the planet and all of that. So it's fun, it's

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scary, it's exciting, it's really fast paced, and,

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yeah, like, I've had someone pitch it to me that they

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might want to pitch it to some production companies, because

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it's written like, it could be a movie.

Kate Harlow: 00:04:16

No, it's going to be a movie. I was, I'm like, I

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delete that part, because I was excited to be like, Oh my god,

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this is so going to be a movie. I had, like, I had waves of

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goosebumps, as you were talking, waves like, it just kept going

Kate Harlow: 00:04:30

and going and going, I This is unbelievable. It's so incredibly

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powerful. What you've been up to, and you've been working with

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women around money for a really long time. How? What? Yeah, it's

Kate Harlow: 00:04:43

been about.

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I've been, I've been a facilitator and a coach and a

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speaker from the stage for about 25 years, and a somatic

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therapist. But about eight, I think it's 18. I keep saying

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it's 15, but I think it's 18 years I had the bonk on the.

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Head that I'm supposed to put what I've done throughout my

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life focused on money and our relationship with money. And I

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mean, I don't know if I've ever told you this story, but when I

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was in clown school in Vancouver, I got the message. I

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was it was I went into trance during one of the exercises

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where we make these masks, and I got this total bonk in the head

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that I am supposed to work with money women, and so that I can

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use money as a conduit for changing how we relate with it.

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So it's a way for love and connection to expand on the

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planet. And so ever since then, I've studied everyone I can get

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my hands on. At the time, no one was doing financial therapy and

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was doing deeper work with money.

Kate Harlow: 00:05:51

There was an Instagram, yeah, there wasn't

Kate Harlow: 00:05:55

all this social media five minute like, I can help you make

Kate Harlow: 00:05:57

a million dollars, people.

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No, there was, there was that, but no one talked

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about the soma, the nervous system, and how we are

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dysregulated, how we relate with money. No one was teaching it.

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There was no such thing as a financial therapist. That's what

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I called myself. And so I feel like I've been pioneering it,

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and ever since I started, it's blooming, like there's more

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money coaches, there's more therapists that work with money.

Unknown: 00:06:22

So it's happening, but I feel like I was at the beginning of

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this movement of having a deeper, more profound

Unknown: 00:06:31

relationship with your finances.

Kate Harlow: 00:06:33

For sure you were and sorry you lost me when I was

Kate Harlow: 00:06:39

in clown school. No, I actually knew I had heard that because I

Kate Harlow: 00:06:42

heard your turning point story before, when we were when we did

Kate Harlow: 00:06:45

this work with Callan. So I have heard the clown school thing,

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but I'm sure so many people are like, Wait, why? That's not a

Kate Harlow: 00:06:53

statement you hear every day. What I know you want to tell us

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just for a minute, like what that was about, and what that

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what, what led you to clown school? I didn't even know there

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was such a thing. It makes sense. Such a thing. It makes

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sense that

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there would be. But, well, it's so interesting when I

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you know, in grade eight, where you fill out the little dots to

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pick your career, yeah, and they put it in a machine way back

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when, and they spit out the top three careers, and then your

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teacher says, Well, you can go to this school, or you can go to

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this school. And so the top three things, the first one was

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clown, the second one was priest, and the third one was

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marine biologist. And so I was like a clown, a class clown in

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school too. And I didn't like school. I was dyslexic. I didn't

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really I wasn't really good at all the things, but I was great

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at making people laugh. So she was like, Well, I guess we can

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look at marine biology. And I said, No, I want to go to clown

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school. And she bit she said, Okay, so she did all the

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research to find the the clown schools. There's one in in the

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Ukraine, and then there was one in or it was Russia at the time,

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and there was one in Vancouver. And I was living in Ontario, and

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I was like, whoa, okay. So I always knew from grade eight

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that there was a clown school in Vancouver, and this was like the

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80s. So I did my life. I did all the things. And then I moved to

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Korea, South Korea, and I was studying dance with this Korean

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dance teacher, and she made us all go to this clown performance

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called slava's Snow show, and I were sitting there. There were

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like 1000s and 1000s of people in the theater, and there was

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this clown that came and shuffled onto the stage and

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would stop and move his head. And basically he was telling

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this story and getting us ready without using words. Was just

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the presence that he had in his body. And he gets into the

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middle of the stage, and then he looks at us, and he moves his

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head one way, and everyone laughs. And I was like, I want

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to be able to do that. I want to be able to capture an audience

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and engage with them in such a way that they feel so connected

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to me. And I knew it. I knew that that was what I was doing.

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And then when I moved back from Korea, I was living in Seoul,

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and I moved back to Vancouver, I was studying dance in Vancouver

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and doing all the things and figuring out what I wanted to

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do. And I had a broken heart. I ended a relationship. And so I

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said, I just am so dark. I need to laugh. So I said, I know

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there's a clown school here. So I I had enough money to when I

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moved to Korea, from Korea to Vancouver, I had saved enough to

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finish my book, which didn't happen right away. So I was

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dancing and writing, that's what I was doing. And I said, okay,

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and I'm gonna go to clown school. So I went to clown

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school, and it was really immersive and deep. And in that

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session, there's like this process where you make a mask,

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and you you you paper mache it, and you paint it, and then you

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put it on, you dress it, and there's an eight mm. Masks, and

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all eight masks have. Each mask has a innocent and adolescent

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and a mature portion of it that you develop, and then they merge

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all eight masks together, right? And that becomes your clown. But

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this first mask that I did, I went in a total trance, and I

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heard this voice in my head that said, You are here to transform

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money into a conduit for love and connection. And I was like,

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What? What? And so I said, okay, but I mean, it was, I had many

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versions of my business. I think the first one was called the

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wealthy clown. Not a lot of credibility there. But I but

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it's evolved. It's evolved, and I've learned a lot. I became a

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certified financial planner. I learned all the boring money

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stuff, which I don't find boring anymore, and I integrated all of

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the the the things that I've done throughout my life into the

Unknown: 00:10:59

work that I do with clients now, wow,

Kate Harlow: 00:11:02

that is the coolest story. I wonder how many women

Kate Harlow: 00:11:05

listening to this that are really depressed now, because

Kate Harlow: 00:11:07

it's going into winter, looking up that sounds so powerful, and

Kate Harlow: 00:11:12

it's amazing. And I love how connected you are to hearing the

Kate Harlow: 00:11:15

I guess that's Claire audience. I have all five of them,

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actually. Oh, you have all of them. Yeah,

Unknown: 00:11:21

wow, cool. When I'm when I'm doing the work,

Unknown: 00:11:26

sometimes when I get into, like, work, work, work behind the

Unknown: 00:11:29

computer, and all of the the this, the silly admin stuff, I

Unknown: 00:11:34

don't hear it as well,

Kate Harlow: 00:11:35

totally. Yeah, I think, and that's true for

Kate Harlow: 00:11:38

everyone. I think, like when we're unplugged, where we're

Kate Harlow: 00:11:40

disconnected, but we're plugged in. The more you plug into the

Kate Harlow: 00:11:43

source, the your heart, your body, your connection, the more

Kate Harlow: 00:11:47

you have access to creativity and these profound downloads and

Kate Harlow: 00:11:53

life leading you really and it leads all of us in different

Kate Harlow: 00:11:57

ways. But wow, that's a frickin amazing story so cool. I would

Kate Harlow: 00:12:04

love to talk about, like, what we were talking about before we

Kate Harlow: 00:12:07

hit record, about, specifically, like, why women are so fucked up

Kate Harlow: 00:12:11

around money. And it's definitely been something I have

Kate Harlow: 00:12:15

over the years, worked so much with, like, it's been one of my

Kate Harlow: 00:12:19

biggest areas. And, you know, lots of friends of mine too,

Kate Harlow: 00:12:23

where it's just like, you know, no matter how many people I've

Kate Harlow: 00:12:27

worked with, you, I worked with my uncle. I worked with so many

Kate Harlow: 00:12:30

people over the years. It took so and it still takes so much to

Kate Harlow: 00:12:33

shift the deeper beliefs around money. So I'd love to start

Kate Harlow: 00:12:38

there talking about women's relationship with money, and

Kate Harlow: 00:12:41

maybe yours what yours was like, But why we're all so fucked up

Kate Harlow: 00:12:44

about money? Well,

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I really think that we have to back up first. So saying

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that we are fucked up around money is not fair

Kate Harlow: 00:12:55

first, not that we are fucked up. I mean that we

Kate Harlow: 00:12:57

feel fucked up or shame exactly, or we hoard, or we overspend, we

Kate Harlow: 00:13:04

can't let it sit Yes, but

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that's what I wanted to because I think that we the way

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women relate in the world is very different to how women

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relate men relate in the world, and So the way a woman interacts

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with everyone and everything is often through a place of

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connection. It's through a place of us. It's a it's a place of

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we, like, you know, a woman will have a baby, and they're

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initially connected to that baby. It's never just them

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anymore, right? They did studies where if they gave a lot of

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money to a woman, it transforms seven people's lives. If they

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gave a lot of money to a man, it transforms two people's lives.

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So oftentimes, we share our money in a community, and what

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can we do to help everyone else out and all of that so that

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often is our structure as women, you know, there's, and I'm not

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saying it's better than men, but like, when you think about the

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whole story of like, you know, back in the day, like before we

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had civilization, men would go out hunting. They could only go

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with two people, if there was a whole bunch of them. They

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couldn't get that, they couldn't get that animal, or they

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couldn't bring home the bacon, right? So they had to think

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singularly. They had to act singularly, and they couldn't

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get distracted by too many other people's needs. But the women

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who were left,

Kate Harlow: 00:14:34

we need to pause for a sec that I've never ever i

Kate Harlow: 00:14:38

People always talk about back in the day when men were cavemen

Kate Harlow: 00:14:41

and women, or men were hunters and women were gatherers, and

Kate Harlow: 00:14:45

I've never heard it described like that before. That makes so

Kate Harlow: 00:14:50

much sense. That's why men always just think for

Kate Harlow: 00:14:52

themselves, and women get so triggered by that in

Kate Harlow: 00:14:54

relationships. And obviously the new truth is mostly about debt.

Kate Harlow: 00:14:57

Well, this is relationships. This episode is about

Kate Harlow: 00:14:59

relationship. With money, but it's mostly about your your

Kate Harlow: 00:15:02

romantic relationships, dating, love, relationship to self, and

Kate Harlow: 00:15:07

that is so huge for women to actually think about that from

Kate Harlow: 00:15:12

the very beginning, like men had to be singular, focused, wow.

Kate Harlow: 00:15:17

And I

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think it's a gift that men have you know, they're not

Unknown: 00:15:22

multitaskers. They're not they don't do that. So what we do is,

Unknown: 00:15:26

and women in particular, when you come back to the community,

Unknown: 00:15:31

they had to have their finger on the pulse of everyone in the

Unknown: 00:15:34

community. We would call that gossip, or talking about each

Unknown: 00:15:37

other and things like that. But really it was like to see where

Unknown: 00:15:41

everyone was functioning from, and then you would look out into

Unknown: 00:15:45

the the field, and you would see there was some danger coming,

Unknown: 00:15:49

and you would spread the word around everyone, come on. Back

Unknown: 00:15:53

up, take care of our brew, right? So we always had this

Unknown: 00:15:58

expansive way of staying connected, that was survival,

Unknown: 00:16:03

right? The men had to be singularly focused for survival.

Unknown: 00:16:07

So who created the money in the world? Men, right? So the system

Unknown: 00:16:13

that money is created in is not a system for women. Like women

Unknown: 00:16:18

don't think that way, right? If women created the financial

Unknown: 00:16:22

systems, it would be very different. And sometimes we do

Unknown: 00:16:25

this thing, oh, it would be way better if women led, well,

Unknown: 00:16:27

whatever. We're not leading that yet, but it's almost like this,

Unknown: 00:16:33

understanding the the water we're swimming in is really,

Unknown: 00:16:36

really important, rather than judging it as wrong, you know,

Unknown: 00:16:39

just to understand it and know what skills you need to acquire

Unknown: 00:16:44

in order to survive and to thrive.

Kate Harlow: 00:16:47

Wow. So, so how would you describe it not being

Kate Harlow: 00:16:50

a system that supports women? I hear this all the time with

Kate Harlow: 00:16:53

health now, and I love it. How health? You know the studies are

Kate Harlow: 00:16:57

about the circadian rhythm, and men's bodies are the same every

Kate Harlow: 00:17:00

day. So they can go to a nine to five job every day. They cannot

Kate Harlow: 00:17:02

eat the same thing every day. They can do things the same way

Kate Harlow: 00:17:05

every day, and that's actually good for them. But women are

Kate Harlow: 00:17:08

cyclical, and every day we're different, and we need things

Kate Harlow: 00:17:11

different every day. So I love that analog analogy for health

Kate Harlow: 00:17:16

and and women's bodies. So take us there for money. What? Why is

Kate Harlow: 00:17:20

this system not supportive for how women naturally are well,

Unknown: 00:17:25

I mean, we could talk about we didn't have a lot of

Unknown: 00:17:28

education or rights around it, because women actually haven't

Unknown: 00:17:32

been able to own a credit card or put their singular name on a

Unknown: 00:17:35

house title, since, I think you could own a credit card in in in

Unknown: 00:17:41

the States, with your name, if you had a husband, co sign with

Unknown: 00:17:45

you in 1956 right? So we have had, maybe, I would say, 40

Unknown: 00:17:52

clean years where women actually have had rights with their

Unknown: 00:17:56

finances. And even now, when a women woman goes into the bank,

Unknown: 00:18:01

depending on who you're, you're meeting, they want to know if

Unknown: 00:18:05

you're married. They want to know if you're like, it's still

Unknown: 00:18:08

there in our financial system in North America, but there are

Unknown: 00:18:13

places all over the country that, all over the the the

Unknown: 00:18:16

world, where women can't even have a bank account. There's so

Unknown: 00:18:19

many unbanked people, and most of them are women, right? So the

Unknown: 00:18:25

the inequality in the world, of course, you just have to speak

Unknown: 00:18:28

to that. We just haven't had as much experience in in

Unknown: 00:18:31

understanding how finance works and to take responsibility and

Unknown: 00:18:35

leadership in it, absolutely. But we are trying to take

Unknown: 00:18:39

responsibility and leadership in a world where, you know, you

Unknown: 00:18:42

look at the stock market, and men look at money like a

Unknown: 00:18:46

stopwatch, how fast? How fast? What can I build? Right? A woman

Unknown: 00:18:50

will look at money of like, what can I do with it? What can I

Unknown: 00:18:53

create with it? Right? So there's a different way of

Unknown: 00:18:58

approaching finance. So when we're trying to build wealth, or

Unknown: 00:19:01

we're trying to be responsible. We can't do it like a man

Unknown: 00:19:06

saying, Well, you need your Excel sheet, you need this much,

Unknown: 00:19:09

you need a budget. You need to do this. And when you go to the

Unknown: 00:19:13

the banks, you'll get a financial advisor that will work

Unknown: 00:19:15

with you, probably a man or a woman that's been trained in a

Unknown: 00:19:19

man's world. Yeah, that you have to do it this way, right? Right?

Unknown: 00:19:25

And really, truly, if you do it their way, you do make money,

Unknown: 00:19:29

right? But you're abandoning a part of your nervous system that

Unknown: 00:19:35

needs to be regulated when you're doing it a man could like

Unknown: 00:19:39

a 24 hour system. That's how a man's body works in the health

Unknown: 00:19:42

world, right? They and a woman has a 30 day system. But it's

Unknown: 00:19:46

similar. If you're going into the bank when you're on your

Unknown: 00:19:48

when you're on your period, your emotions and what you're feeling

Unknown: 00:19:53

and how you're going to make a decision is going to be very

Unknown: 00:19:55

different than when you're ovulating, right? So knowing. In

Unknown: 00:20:00

your physical, physical body and how you operate is really

Unknown: 00:20:04

important to lead with. When you work with money, you're not

Unknown: 00:20:08

going to change the money system. And I think a lot of

Unknown: 00:20:11

times we think we're going to change it, we just have to

Unknown: 00:20:14

approach it fully embodied and fully regulated.

Kate Harlow: 00:20:20

Wow, oh my gosh, wow. Yeah. And I think the

Kate Harlow: 00:20:23

linear route women who fall like, who are who spend more

Kate Harlow: 00:20:27

time in their feminine energy, it's like, that's so hard. You

Kate Harlow: 00:20:30

know, they'll get excited and like, be like, Okay, now I've

Kate Harlow: 00:20:33

structured an organization, and then it'll go out the window.

Kate Harlow: 00:20:35

Unless they have like, lots of Capricorn or Virgo in their

Kate Harlow: 00:20:38

chart. It's gonna, you know, of course, there's women who are

Kate Harlow: 00:20:41

really good with with organization and that kind of

Kate Harlow: 00:20:45

thing. So for women like that, perhaps they'll get a different

Kate Harlow: 00:20:49

result. But for women who are more emotional and more more

Kate Harlow: 00:20:53

lean more towards the feminine qualities, they'll rebel against

Kate Harlow: 00:20:57

it like, it'll be like, great and for a week or two, and then

Kate Harlow: 00:21:01

you'll fall off the wagon, and then you'll beat the shit out of

Kate Harlow: 00:21:03

yourself for not doing the thing you said you do. And you know it

Kate Harlow: 00:21:07

so many women did guilt and shame, and we've been taught to

Kate Harlow: 00:21:11

punish ourselves from so many places. So yeah, like,

Unknown: 00:21:14

I don't know how many women say, Oh, I'm not good with

Unknown: 00:21:16

numbers. I'm bad with money. You know, money is full of greed. It

Unknown: 00:21:20

takes it's bad, it hurts people, and it's a way of creating

Unknown: 00:21:26

safety for us to have those points of view, to take care of

Unknown: 00:21:32

ourselves too. So we have to villainize money to make us feel

Unknown: 00:21:37

okay, because the shame cycle, the greed like all of the guilt,

Unknown: 00:21:41

shame and judgment that we have about ourselves is perpetuated

Unknown: 00:21:46

in the financial system, that women are not good with money,

Unknown: 00:21:49

or, I don't know how many times people say in the school system

Unknown: 00:21:53

too, that boys are better in math than girls. That's so not

Unknown: 00:21:57

true. It's not true at all. But the way that we approach things

Unknown: 00:22:02

makes us believe it's true. So it self perpetuates in a lot of

Kate Harlow: 00:22:06

ways, right? And probably the way they teach, it

Kate Harlow: 00:22:09

supports a boy's brain over a girl's brain,

Unknown: 00:22:13

sometimes, sometimes. But I also think that, like you

Unknown: 00:22:16

know, when you have mixed genders in school, sometimes

Unknown: 00:22:19

women or girls are often not excelling because they're more

Unknown: 00:22:24

of a social we're more social, right? We want to connect, and

Unknown: 00:22:29

if you are too smart, you might not connect, right? So the need

Unknown: 00:22:37

to connect and to belong is much greater, even though it's

Unknown: 00:22:40

something every human needs, men and women, but I think for

Unknown: 00:22:44

women, especially when they're younger, they're usually more

Unknown: 00:22:48

emotionally ahead of boys in school, so their desire to

Unknown: 00:22:54

connect and knowing how to connect is greater than boys

Unknown: 00:22:57

sometimes At that time, right?

Kate Harlow: 00:23:00

That makes so much sense. Whoa. I didn't

Unknown: 00:23:04

know we were gonna go here, but there's so many places

Unknown: 00:23:07

we

Kate Harlow: 00:23:08

could be, like, 10 hours, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh my

Kate Harlow: 00:23:13

gosh. So anything else you want to say before we move to the

Kate Harlow: 00:23:19

five toxic beliefs, anything else you want to say around

Kate Harlow: 00:23:22

women and money? Well, I love that

Unknown: 00:23:26

we were talking at first about what our inheritance

Unknown: 00:23:29

is in our gender, rather than the trauma that we inherit from

Unknown: 00:23:34

our family of origin or our intergenerational or even

Unknown: 00:23:39

cultural trauma that happens for us that makes us interact with

Unknown: 00:23:43

money in different ways. Because I think that there's so many

Unknown: 00:23:46

levels to look at in order to operate from a place of

Unknown: 00:23:52

alignment healing, regulation and health with money. So it's

Unknown: 00:23:56

never just one thing. So it's nice to actually stack it. And I

Unknown: 00:24:00

love that we started this with, you know, the physiology of

Unknown: 00:24:04

being a woman or being a man and what that means.

Kate Harlow: 00:24:08

Yeah, so big. Do you want to touch on all the

Kate Harlow: 00:24:11

other ones that you just mentioned? So, so the next place

Kate Harlow: 00:24:15

is understanding why we feel out of control, or whatever you're

Kate Harlow: 00:24:18

feeling around money. It's like, this is why all of these pieces.

Kate Harlow: 00:24:22

So one piece is being a woman in the system. So what are the

Kate Harlow: 00:24:25

other pieces?

Unknown: 00:24:27

Culturally, the culture that we live in, I mean, every

Unknown: 00:24:31

culture is going to deal with money differently. If you're

Unknown: 00:24:33

German, I talk and work with German people, and they're like,

Unknown: 00:24:36

I don't understand why it's so hard for you to save money. But

Unknown: 00:24:39

culturally, they have a very linear and practical approach to

Unknown: 00:24:45

things. When you go to some place in like Brazil and I, and

Unknown: 00:24:49

it's like, No, we got to look good as women like you know, all

Unknown: 00:24:52

my money is going into my boob job or whatever to like, because

Unknown: 00:24:56

that's my currency that creates my value, right? But then.

Unknown: 00:24:59

You're in Canada, where men and women are treated very

Unknown: 00:25:02

similarly, because it's like a very socialist country, we're

Unknown: 00:25:06

going to approach money in a different way. So

Unknown: 00:25:09

culturally, what's Canada?

Unknown: 00:25:11

Canada is like, is like, sorry, I spent my money. Sorry. It's

Unknown: 00:25:16

like, don't

Unknown: 00:25:17

stand out, don't look too wealthy. You know, you got to

Unknown: 00:25:20

keep yourself the same as everyone else in America. It's

Unknown: 00:25:24

like celebrated capitalism. You can be rich do all of that.

Unknown: 00:25:28

Canada is no status quo. We take care of everyone. The bottom

Unknown: 00:25:32

line, the people on the bottom need to be taken care of, you

Unknown: 00:25:36

know, which is great, but at the same time, it doesn't allow

Unknown: 00:25:39

people to kind of excel in their

Kate Harlow: 00:25:42

brilliance. Oh, my God. Okay, name some other

Kate Harlow: 00:25:44

countries. If you have there's women listening from all over

Kate Harlow: 00:25:48

the world. So if you have any in the

Unknown: 00:25:50

UK, it's like, do not talk about money. It's dirty,

Unknown: 00:25:52

it's bad, it's embarrassing. Never tell what you're making.

Unknown: 00:25:54

It's very private. That's the UK. Okay, right? Oh, Japan. I I

Unknown: 00:26:03

think I'm not pause positive about this, but it is a very it

Unknown: 00:26:09

has that, you know, don't stand out. Everyone has. It's a

Unknown: 00:26:12

homogenous culture too. So we take care of everyone, which is

Unknown: 00:26:17

good. But I also feel like standing out and saving face,

Unknown: 00:26:23

and all of that stuff is such a dominant social construct that

Unknown: 00:26:29

they stand into, and that can affect how you relate with money

Unknown: 00:26:32

as well.

Unknown: 00:26:34

Okay, in Australia, you were gonna say, Oh, wow,

Unknown: 00:26:36

I got it. I don't know. All of Australia, I think is very

Unknown: 00:26:38

adventure focused. It's

Unknown: 00:26:39

like, yeah, like, it's having a good time. That's all that

Unknown: 00:26:45

matters Exactly.

Unknown: 00:26:46

But, I mean, this is a deeper anthropological kind of study

Unknown: 00:26:51

around money, and I that's another topic that I'm not a

Unknown: 00:26:55

genius in my partner is. So that's

Kate Harlow: 00:26:56

where, I mean, you just did a great job. That was

Kate Harlow: 00:26:58

amazing. I'm like, I was shocked when you did even the first

Kate Harlow: 00:27:02

three. Okay, amazing. So that's cultural Yes, where you were

Kate Harlow: 00:27:08

born, where you were raised, how you were programmed, the society

Kate Harlow: 00:27:12

that programmed you,

Unknown: 00:27:14

yeah, and in majority of the Western cultures, there

Unknown: 00:27:18

are five toxic money beliefs that we have, yes, and pretty

Unknown: 00:27:23

much every one of these you could have all five, you can

Unknown: 00:27:27

have one, but most of the toxic behavior that we have with money

Unknown: 00:27:31

sits in one of these belief systems. Okay, and it may not

Unknown: 00:27:34

look so for the listeners that are trying to figure out where

Unknown: 00:27:38

they sit in it, you can type in the show notes to or in the

Unknown: 00:27:42

comments, and I can go in after and see what your behavior, what

Unknown: 00:27:46

belief system it sits in, because sometimes it's harder to

Unknown: 00:27:49

find it for yourself. Because, you know, when we're in the

Unknown: 00:27:52

picture, we can't see the frame however you might see it right

Unknown: 00:27:55

away. So the first one is, of course, not enough. The scarcity

Unknown: 00:27:58

there's never enough. You know it, it just, it could happen on

Unknown: 00:28:04

there's never enough love, there's never enough time,

Unknown: 00:28:07

there's never enough money, there's never enough so it's

Unknown: 00:28:08

that scarcity model of never enough, and that lives in your

Unknown: 00:28:13

nervous system, and it becomes an emotional pattern that can

Unknown: 00:28:16

seep into everything in our lives.

Kate Harlow: 00:28:19

Yeah, I know a woman who's a millionaire, and

Kate Harlow: 00:28:21

she and she has that it's like nothing's It's like she feels

Kate Harlow: 00:28:25

like she's broke still, because her old stuff is family stuff

Kate Harlow: 00:28:28

and young like it's still there in her DNA, even though she she

Kate Harlow: 00:28:34

has a very successful business.

Unknown: 00:28:37

And I mean, if you want to frame that in a trauma place,

Unknown: 00:28:40

when you have money scarcity dialed in. It doesn't matter how

Unknown: 00:28:43

much money you have, but your nervous system is in fight or

Unknown: 00:28:47

flight all the time. Okay? So you're, you're you're in. It's

Unknown: 00:28:51

almost like your nervous system is dialed into, there's never

Unknown: 00:28:55

enough oxygen. So you're like, like, you know that feeling, and

Unknown: 00:28:59

it's the loop, I call it a mobius strip, where you just

Unknown: 00:29:02

keep going over and over and over again you have to break the

Unknown: 00:29:04

cycle. And there's a whole process on how to do that. But

Unknown: 00:29:08

that belief system can seep into so many parts of our lives.

Unknown: 00:29:13

Yeah,

Unknown: 00:29:15

the next one is money will solve all my

Kate Harlow: 00:29:17

Actually, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, before

Kate Harlow: 00:29:20

we get to the next Okay, yeah, I actually want to say one thing

Kate Harlow: 00:29:24

to the never enough thing. I've actually noticed since living in

Kate Harlow: 00:29:28

or not even living in Africa, because I've only been here a

Kate Harlow: 00:29:30

month, but since spending so much time here last year, I've

Kate Harlow: 00:29:34

noticed that that not enough. Nothing's ever enough with North

Kate Harlow: 00:29:38

Americans. Obviously, it's probably most people in the

Kate Harlow: 00:29:41

Western world, but it's like, oh, they're never satisfied with

Kate Harlow: 00:29:43

their meal. It's like, not good enough. Go out for dinner. It's

Kate Harlow: 00:29:45

not good enough for this. There's always something wrong,

Kate Harlow: 00:29:47

like, or I need another Amazon delivery, or I need another.

Kate Harlow: 00:29:50

Like, it always more more, more I need. I need to put more

Kate Harlow: 00:29:53

things on my calendar. I need to be busier. It's like, nothing

Kate Harlow: 00:29:56

ever is enough. And then here in Africa. I meet people who have

Kate Harlow: 00:30:01

nothing, and there's, it's like they have more than enough, like

Kate Harlow: 00:30:05

they're so grounded and regulated. And there's this like

Kate Harlow: 00:30:09

gratitude. There's this appreciation for everything they

Kate Harlow: 00:30:13

have. I gave my friend a book, and he, he almost cried, like

Kate Harlow: 00:30:19

was on the verge of crying. It was like, Oh my God. And it was

Kate Harlow: 00:30:22

so blown away by getting a gift, and it was like the most

Kate Harlow: 00:30:26

meaningful thing in the world to him. And I was like, what, like

Kate Harlow: 00:30:29

most people would be like, Oh, thanks. Like, whatever they

Kate Harlow: 00:30:32

would like, throw it on their desk and never read it, like he

Kate Harlow: 00:30:35

read it many times, and it was just like the most appreciated

Kate Harlow: 00:30:39

thing. And so it's such a fascinating thing to be in a

Kate Harlow: 00:30:42

country where it's like a developing country in Africa and

Kate Harlow: 00:30:48

not, and I'm not talking necessarily talking about

Kate Harlow: 00:30:50

Nairobi, but parts of Nairobi, for sure, but Kenya, like parts

Kate Harlow: 00:30:53

of Kenya, villages where people really don't have much, they

Kate Harlow: 00:30:57

live in these tiny places, and they're They're in such deep

Kate Harlow: 00:31:00

appreciation for life, and then all these people in North

Kate Harlow: 00:31:03

America who literally have more than they could ever want too

Kate Harlow: 00:31:06

much stuff. They have too much of everything. And then, but of

Kate Harlow: 00:31:10

course, that wound underneath that's driving them, that's not

Kate Harlow: 00:31:12

enough. I've been thinking so much about this not enoughness

Kate Harlow: 00:31:15

since being here, and

Unknown: 00:31:16

it's interesting that you say that, because there's

Unknown: 00:31:19

been a lot of studies of why that's the case, and a part of

Unknown: 00:31:22

it is because we compare. And when you're in a community of

Unknown: 00:31:26

people that have a similar poverty level or similar price,

Unknown: 00:31:30

like less than they look out for each other in a lot of ways, and

Unknown: 00:31:36

it creates a community. It's like a we are in this together,

Unknown: 00:31:41

right? And that sense of belonging is satisfying. It

Unknown: 00:31:46

brings in the enoughness. It brings in the satedness. In our

Unknown: 00:31:50

cultures, we are always looking on Instagram or comparing with

Unknown: 00:31:54

people who have more, or our neighbor has more, or the sense

Unknown: 00:31:58

of belonging doesn't happen as as dynamic as it does in those

Unknown: 00:32:02

cultures. And when you have a deep belonging to something,

Unknown: 00:32:07

usually that satiates your desire for more, because that's

Unknown: 00:32:12

what we really want, is we want to be belonging. We want to be

Unknown: 00:32:17

with.

Kate Harlow: 00:32:17

We want to be together. You are fucking

Kate Harlow: 00:32:20

brilliant. Everything you're saying. I gotta listen to this

Kate Harlow: 00:32:24

episode 10 times. I thank you so much for being here and sharing

Kate Harlow: 00:32:29

your wisdom. It's not the end, and we can this can be as long

Kate Harlow: 00:32:33

as it is. I am so just blown away by everything that you

Kate Harlow: 00:32:39

everything that's inside of you, and that comes through you. You

Kate Harlow: 00:32:41

are just unbelievable.

Unknown: 00:32:44

Wow. I'm so excited to have you here. So

Unknown: 00:32:47

much. It feels like I want to share so much with the world

Unknown: 00:32:50

around how we work with money, because I feel like it's the

Unknown: 00:32:53

most underdeveloped energy. We don't explore it. And there's so

Unknown: 00:32:58

much it's it's so exciting for me to to dive in and open up in

Unknown: 00:33:03

it. So thank you for giving me the opportunity.

Kate Harlow: 00:33:07

It's amazing. Okay, sorry. Belief two

Unknown: 00:33:11

money will solve all my problems. So if I just win the

Unknown: 00:33:14

want lottery, if I just made more money, if I had more money,

Unknown: 00:33:19

everything would be okay. And when you have that belief, of

Unknown: 00:33:24

course, you're chasing the dollar, right? You're chasing

Unknown: 00:33:28

whatever currency you live in, and you want more. It's always

Unknown: 00:33:32

more more, more more. And that's kind of problematic for the

Unknown: 00:33:36

entire planet in a lot of ways, but money will solve my problems

Unknown: 00:33:41

is a very toxic belief. And if you live in that, you'll see

Unknown: 00:33:45

that your hustle, the hustle you have with money, is what could

Unknown: 00:33:49

be really toxic for your nervous system as well. And some

Unknown: 00:33:53

people's retirement plan is to win the lottery. There are 32%

Unknown: 00:33:59

of the people on the planet that believe that their retirement

Unknown: 00:34:01

plan is winning the lottery, and the amount of money that goes

Unknown: 00:34:04

into lottery tickets, it's pretty evident. Wow.

Kate Harlow: 00:34:08

And then there's all those studies about people

Kate Harlow: 00:34:10

who win the lottery end up spending it all in how long,

Kate Harlow: 00:34:13

like a year or something.

Unknown: 00:34:14

Well, that's another story that could go we could go

Unknown: 00:34:17

deep into that, but it doesn't solve your problems. Never does.

Unknown: 00:34:21

It just reveals more of what's problematic.

Kate Harlow: 00:34:26

Yeah, well, because then it's still never enough. So

Kate Harlow: 00:34:28

you're always chasing the carrot, and then the bar keeps

Kate Harlow: 00:34:31

moving. You never get to celebrate, enjoy where you are,

Kate Harlow: 00:34:33

because the bar is just going to go higher and higher and

Unknown: 00:34:36

higher. Only if you have the toxic belief of never

Unknown: 00:34:39

enough, but if your belief is money will solve all my

Unknown: 00:34:43

problems, then you don't take responsibility for your part in

Unknown: 00:34:47

it. You just think it's money that's going to solve

Unknown: 00:34:50

everything,

Kate Harlow: 00:34:51

right? You know, it's different. It makes me

Kate Harlow: 00:34:55

think of this documentary I saw a long time ago about

Kate Harlow: 00:34:57

billionaire children and how they're the. Most unhappy people

Kate Harlow: 00:35:01

in the world, and they they're like, all addicted to drugs and

Kate Harlow: 00:35:05

like it's many have been suicidal or have killed

Kate Harlow: 00:35:08

themselves, and like, they have everything they could ever

Kate Harlow: 00:35:11

possibly want and they can't even access pleasure.

Unknown: 00:35:16

And a part of that is, there's a whole study on how our

Unknown: 00:35:20

brains get wired from challenge and working and seeing the

Unknown: 00:35:26

products of our be behavior or products of our effort coming

Unknown: 00:35:32

in. And I think, like as a trust fund, I work with a lot of

Unknown: 00:35:35

wealthy people too that never really had to worry about money,

Unknown: 00:35:39

and now they realize they want to understand it. And there's a

Unknown: 00:35:44

whole wealth transfer right now from the trillionaires to their

Unknown: 00:35:48

kids, and it's a movement one of my mentors right now wants to

Unknown: 00:35:52

capture, because he wants those kids to be educated on how to

Unknown: 00:35:55

use their money to transform the planet. But like, that's another

Unknown: 00:35:58

story, but this brain that doesn't often in a billionaire

Unknown: 00:36:04

family, I shouldn't make an assumption here, but love

Unknown: 00:36:07

connection and time with your kids, usually they don't put the

Unknown: 00:36:12

effort in with their kids. They get a nanny, they get to go to

Unknown: 00:36:16

the greatest private schools. They get everything they want,

Unknown: 00:36:18

thinking that's love. Not every billionaire will do that, but

Unknown: 00:36:22

these kids never really get nurtured the way a kid needs to

Unknown: 00:36:25

be nurtured, and never gets the challenge to use their abilities

Unknown: 00:36:32

and skills to survive in the world or thrive in the world,

Unknown: 00:36:35

right? Because everything's given to them so a pathway in

Unknown: 00:36:38

their brain doesn't get created, and the reward system in our

Unknown: 00:36:41

brain creates oxytocin and serotonin and all the things.

Unknown: 00:36:45

But if you're never challenged and you're just given

Unknown: 00:36:47

everything, you're not going to do that. And the only way you

Unknown: 00:36:50

get that is taking drugs. You know, you only way you get your

Unknown: 00:36:55

serotonin popped up, I'm going to take some ecstasy, right? So

Unknown: 00:37:00

there's a chemical journey that we go on in our brain as we move

Unknown: 00:37:07

into the different levels of abundance. And if you miss one,

Unknown: 00:37:12

then you usually substitute it with other behavior that's

Unknown: 00:37:15

toxic, right?

Kate Harlow: 00:37:19

Wow, so much there. Holy, oh my gosh, this is such a

Kate Harlow: 00:37:23

big topic. Why did we not learn about money in school? How

Kate Harlow: 00:37:26

insane

Unknown: 00:37:26

I know what Well, part of it is because a teacher can't

Unknown: 00:37:30

teach what they don't know, and no one's really studied it,

Unknown: 00:37:34

right? Yeah, so we need more people to know it,

Kate Harlow: 00:37:39

yes, and also to put it into the curriculum,

Kate Harlow: 00:37:42

yeah, learn about what you really need to know in life

Kate Harlow: 00:37:45

instead of everything you don't need to know. And

Unknown: 00:37:48

a lot of the work that I'm doing is trying to heal the

Unknown: 00:37:51

path the damage that's been done so that we can do something in a

Unknown: 00:37:55

different way. And oftentimes, when I'm working with people

Unknown: 00:37:58

that have kids, they think, Oh, what am I going to teach my

Unknown: 00:38:00

kids? I have to teach my kids this. And I'm like, No, you

Unknown: 00:38:02

like, No, you don't. You have to do your work, and you have to

Unknown: 00:38:05

model it in order for your kids to see something different. And

Unknown: 00:38:10

some people choose to do that, and some people don't.

Unknown: 00:38:13

Yep, wholeheartedly agree. So

Unknown: 00:38:16

the third, the third toxic money belief is money makes me look

Unknown: 00:38:20

good. So things like resilience, exactly, or you get respect when

Unknown: 00:38:28

you have money. So you know, like, if you come into a store

Unknown: 00:38:32

and you look terrible, or you go into a restaurant, you look like

Unknown: 00:38:36

you're a homeless person, you don't get served. You're

Unknown: 00:38:39

disrespected. You're not You're not honored as a human. It's so

Unknown: 00:38:42

bizarre. But if you come in with your pressured and everything,

Unknown: 00:38:47

you actually get free things sometimes, which is, like, it's

Unknown: 00:38:50

a weird it's a weird dichotomy, but the world will treat people

Unknown: 00:38:55

better when they look wealthy, right? So it's a feedback

Unknown: 00:39:00

mechanism. So if I have money, and I have that watch, I have

Unknown: 00:39:04

those shoes, I have all those things, I look good, and I'm

Unknown: 00:39:08

going to be looked as successful. So, but I have to

Unknown: 00:39:12

look like I have money, right, and that can spill over into I

Unknown: 00:39:18

need that car. I need to buy the next house I need to buy. Like

Unknown: 00:39:22

the consumer addiction of more is better, and spending that

Unknown: 00:39:27

way, which could be buying the expensive things, which could

Unknown: 00:39:31

lead to the firing every time you buy something, you get that

Unknown: 00:39:34

that hit in your brain, and then it creates the addiction to want

Unknown: 00:39:38

to buy. So that's what, that's what Amazon, or all the the

Unknown: 00:39:43

online shopping, capitalizes on in a lot of ways. So it's, it's

Unknown: 00:39:48

also related into, you know, money will solve all my problems

Unknown: 00:39:52

if I had that. Money makes me look good, and there's never

Unknown: 00:39:54

enough. Like all of those can be layered into the way that we're

Unknown: 00:39:59

marketed to. As well, right?

Kate Harlow: 00:40:02

The next one, people look like they have

Kate Harlow: 00:40:04

money, but they're actually, like, deeply in debt, just

Kate Harlow: 00:40:07

trying to keep up the facade of having money. My incredibly

Kate Harlow: 00:40:10

wealthy uncle, like, wears the same sweater, you know, has the

Kate Harlow: 00:40:14

same car forever. Like, is just like, he's so humble about his

Kate Harlow: 00:40:19

like he and he comes from generations of wealth and also

Kate Harlow: 00:40:23

is an incredibly intelligent guy in that department and and he

Kate Harlow: 00:40:29

doesn't look like he has money,

Unknown: 00:40:31

I know, so it's a lie. Money doesn't make you look

Unknown: 00:40:34

good, yeah? Makes you look like you have a look that makes

Unknown: 00:40:37

you look good, yeah,

Kate Harlow: 00:40:40

yeah, yeah. And the belief feeds the addiction,

Kate Harlow: 00:40:43

absolutely.

Unknown: 00:40:44

And I mean, like when you can see how you're

Unknown: 00:40:47

operating, you may not be the person that buys the boat in the

Unknown: 00:40:50

car and all that stuff, but you do care about how you look,

Unknown: 00:40:56

because you know you'll be treated better, rather than

Unknown: 00:40:59

caring about how you look because you're honoring your

Unknown: 00:41:01

being and your self expression, like there's different

Unknown: 00:41:04

motivations by why we do what we do,

Kate Harlow: 00:41:06

right? And the reality is, you get treated the

Kate Harlow: 00:41:08

best when you're like in your heart and your home and you're

Kate Harlow: 00:41:12

connected, not when you're looking because it's like

Kate Harlow: 00:41:14

there's a facade then. So actually, you might be treated a

Kate Harlow: 00:41:18

certain way, but it's still like from a very disconnected feels

Kate Harlow: 00:41:21

like robotic energy.

Unknown: 00:41:24

It's so interesting because it's never one thing

Unknown: 00:41:27

like my partner came from a lot of money and always looks

Unknown: 00:41:31

pressed and really wealthy, right? We go into these tiny

Unknown: 00:41:36

villages in Greece, they charge us twice as much for our meal

Unknown: 00:41:41

than other people. So it's so I'm like, great. I'm shocked,

Unknown: 00:41:47

babe, you need to, you need to wear flip flops and shorts. And

Unknown: 00:41:51

tone it down a bit, right? So, I mean, I think that there's so

Unknown: 00:41:56

many stories that run around this. Yes,

Kate Harlow: 00:42:00

yeah, big time. Wow, that is amazing. Oh, my

Kate Harlow: 00:42:03

God, I'm shocked. Wait, yeah, I guess I didn't look like I had

Kate Harlow: 00:42:06

money. I always had ripped jeans or yoga pants.

Unknown: 00:42:10

But she loves money, and she shares it, and she talks

Unknown: 00:42:13

about money, and she's unapologetic about how much she

Unknown: 00:42:16

loves money, and it makes people uncomfortable. Well, if you love

Unknown: 00:42:21

money, you can pay me more, right? Like, so, I mean, there's

Unknown: 00:42:24

another story that's running around it, but it's interesting

Unknown: 00:42:27

because I've seen it happen. Like, she'll go into a store and

Unknown: 00:42:31

the price for something changes when she walks in. It's weird.

Kate Harlow: 00:42:35

That is so wild. Oh my god, she shouldn't come to

Kate Harlow: 00:42:37

Kenya. So and she's in the same industry too, right? Like she

Kate Harlow: 00:42:43

helps actually say the statement that you said about yours and

Kate Harlow: 00:42:47

hers, but with what you both do, because you're both around

Kate Harlow: 00:42:50

helping women, around women, humans, around money.

Unknown: 00:42:53

So her tag is, like, she wants to make women rich.

Unknown: 00:42:57

Mine is, I want to empower women with money.

Kate Harlow: 00:43:00

Yes, yes. They're so beautiful and so

Kate Harlow: 00:43:03

complimentary. Yeah,

Unknown: 00:43:06

but she's unapologetic, which I love because you can see

Unknown: 00:43:09

in a room the people that reject her because she loves money, and

Unknown: 00:43:14

then the people that are like fascinated that someone has that

Unknown: 00:43:17

much conviction, and it's wild. I love it. It almost is her way

Unknown: 00:43:21

of weeding out who would be her friend, totally.

Kate Harlow: 00:43:26

But also, like planting the seed, even for

Kate Harlow: 00:43:28

people who are triggered by it, it's like fully fucking owning.

Kate Harlow: 00:43:32

I mean, I own being loving, right? I'm loving with the taxi

Kate Harlow: 00:43:35

driver. I'm loving with the coffee like with every person I

Kate Harlow: 00:43:39

meet, even if they seem uncomfortable. It's like, I'm

Kate Harlow: 00:43:41

gonna blast them with care, bear, love, and that's my lane.

Kate Harlow: 00:43:44

That's my thing. Her thing is money. So she blasts people with

Kate Harlow: 00:43:47

money and shocks them whatever. And even if they're

Kate Harlow: 00:43:49

uncomfortable with it, she's planting seeds. Like,

Kate Harlow: 00:43:51

subconsciously, she's like, part of their spirit team that's

Kate Harlow: 00:43:55

like, you know, planting seeds to wake them up on some level,

Kate Harlow: 00:43:59

because to own it. I mean, especially as a woman, it's so

Kate Harlow: 00:44:02

cool. I also, sidebar, I want to have dinner with you guys when

Kate Harlow: 00:44:05

I'm in Vancouver in August. I've never met her, Victoria. We're

Kate Harlow: 00:44:08

in Victoria. Yeah, our Victoria. But, yeah, I'll come over to

Kate Harlow: 00:44:11

Victoria. But I have another friend that's there too, but

Kate Harlow: 00:44:15

especially a woman around money to own it, not, not in an

Kate Harlow: 00:44:19

insecure like trying to prove myself kind of way, but from the

Kate Harlow: 00:44:23

rooted, sovereign woman, that's like, yeah, I love money. Like,

Kate Harlow: 00:44:27

it's like, there's such a big difference between, like,

Kate Harlow: 00:44:29

proving yourself around money, but or actually being rooted in

Kate Harlow: 00:44:33

it and owning it fully. That is so fucking cool.

Unknown: 00:44:36

Yeah, it is wonderful to be around. And I mean, when I

Unknown: 00:44:39

was re patterning my belief systems, my toxic belief

Unknown: 00:44:42

systems. I did a whole cleaning house of people in my life and

Unknown: 00:44:48

and then she showed up, and she triggered the hell out of me

Unknown: 00:44:52

around money stuff. And it was like, because I do this work,

Unknown: 00:44:55

I'm like, Whoa. I didn't even know. I had that feeling. I

Unknown: 00:44:58

didn't know. And so it would just. Unfolded all of my my

Unknown: 00:45:03

resistances to wealth and now standing in it, it's like

Unknown: 00:45:08

there's this beauty, there's this rich, gorgeous abundance

Unknown: 00:45:13

that now we can invite other women into. Yes, my purpose is

Unknown: 00:45:18

to let people feel seen, and hers is to be unapologetic about

Unknown: 00:45:24

wealth. So when we marry those two with people, it's like when

Unknown: 00:45:28

their nervous system gets out, I help them get back in line so

Unknown: 00:45:33

that they can embody the identity of what it does it mean

Unknown: 00:45:37

to be a wealthy woman.

Kate Harlow: 00:45:40

I love it. And not just a woman who has money, but

Kate Harlow: 00:45:42

a wealthy woman, because it's so much deeper and richer and so

Kate Harlow: 00:45:45

much more than you can have all the money in the world. But if

Kate Harlow: 00:45:49

you're not connected in that way, it's not the same thing. So

Kate Harlow: 00:45:53

not about what's in your bank account, by the way. No,

Kate Harlow: 00:45:56

exactly, exactly. And I can just see like, this is like the this

Kate Harlow: 00:46:00

is what I'm talking about every frickin week on this podcast. Is

Kate Harlow: 00:46:04

the divine orchestration life has an there's a natural

Kate Harlow: 00:46:07

intelligence to the life that your soul is meant to

Kate Harlow: 00:46:09

experience. And just seeing how even connected to your purpose

Kate Harlow: 00:46:13

in the world and your mission, and how this woman had to come

Kate Harlow: 00:46:17

into your life and crack you open and trigger you and all

Kate Harlow: 00:46:20

your stuff. Like, often women in relationships are like, I'm

Kate Harlow: 00:46:23

triggered. I gotta run. And it's like, the gift of the trigger.

Kate Harlow: 00:46:26

She triggers all your shit open. And then you, and you're a money

Kate Harlow: 00:46:29

coach and a money teacher, and then you get to see all your

Kate Harlow: 00:46:32

blind spots and where your next level is not because you're not

Kate Harlow: 00:46:35

already an epic money teacher, because you were back then I

Kate Harlow: 00:46:38

worked with you, but because you needed to rise to your next

Kate Harlow: 00:46:41

level to have a bigger impact in the world. And you couldn't have

Kate Harlow: 00:46:43

that big of an impact in world, the world, if you didn't have

Kate Harlow: 00:46:46

this mirror show up and reflect all those blind spots. So then

Kate Harlow: 00:46:49

you could then own it on a bigger scale. Wow,

Unknown: 00:46:53

yeah, I'm in my lane.

Unknown: 00:46:56

So cool. Okay, what's the fourth toxic belief

Unknown: 00:47:00

I have to work hard for money, or I have money requires

Unknown: 00:47:04

sacrifice, you know, like, in order to have it, I have to give

Unknown: 00:47:08

something up in that regard. And Mo, I think that's the operating

Unknown: 00:47:12

system of a lot of people, you know. And in truth, when you

Unknown: 00:47:17

start to have a dynamic relationship with money, you

Unknown: 00:47:20

have to

Unknown: 00:47:20

work less totally.

Unknown: 00:47:24

And when you think you have to work hard, and I think working

Unknown: 00:47:28

hard for money comes from like, like, especially in North

Unknown: 00:47:31

America, you know, immigrants that have come here, they work

Unknown: 00:47:35

the land. They they they work hard to survive, to get out of

Unknown: 00:47:39

where they were coming from, to create a life and their family.

Unknown: 00:47:42

It's baked in hard work is baked into North America in a lot of

Unknown: 00:47:48

ways,

Kate Harlow: 00:47:49

and it's baked into Africa. It's baked in all over

Kate Harlow: 00:47:51

the world because they just work hard, and they don't make as

Kate Harlow: 00:47:53

they make way less money, but they work really, really,

Kate Harlow: 00:47:57

really, really hard to make their their more in survival.

Kate Harlow: 00:48:00

And obviously, not again, not Nairobi, not all of Africa, but

Kate Harlow: 00:48:04

but all over the world, whether it's developing countries or

Kate Harlow: 00:48:10

Western countries or anything in between, we, I think we've all

Kate Harlow: 00:48:13

been taught to work hard for money,

Unknown: 00:48:15

and we're rewarded for working hard. Yeah, right. Oh,

Unknown: 00:48:19

you worked hard. How often do you say, So, how was your day?

Unknown: 00:48:23

Oh, it was so full. I worked really hard. Good for you,

Unknown: 00:48:27

yeah, yeah, if you were

Unknown: 00:48:29

sitting around here, amazing, yeah. If you're sitting around

Unknown: 00:48:33

idly meditating and just doing your own thing and following the

Unknown: 00:48:38

flow, people like, well, that must be nice, like, you know

Unknown: 00:48:41

what I mean?

Kate Harlow: 00:48:42

Yeah, and I realized, as you're talking

Kate Harlow: 00:48:44

about this one, I'm like, oh my god, I used to work insanely

Kate Harlow: 00:48:47

hard and make no barely any money, and now I make really

Kate Harlow: 00:48:51

great money, and I barely work meditate and sing and frolic and

Kate Harlow: 00:48:56

dance and and hang out and just do what I love like, and I think

Kate Harlow: 00:49:02

that like when we're on purpose too,

Unknown: 00:49:07

well, not even, not even I will have to counter that

Unknown: 00:49:10

a little bit, because if you can get rid of that belief first of

Unknown: 00:49:14

all, then you will open your eyes to the possibilities of

Unknown: 00:49:18

where easy money can come to you, right? And then when you

Unknown: 00:49:22

see the easy money, and you have the education, the literacy, the

Unknown: 00:49:26

know how, and that's also what we teach, then you can leverage

Unknown: 00:49:31

the money to create more space. So you may not be on purpose,

Unknown: 00:49:35

yet you're just, you're just paying attention. You're not

Unknown: 00:49:39

operating from the working hard, because people are on purpose

Unknown: 00:49:43

and work freaking hard, Oh, for

Kate Harlow: 00:49:45

sure time. Yeah, most of the people I know don't

Kate Harlow: 00:49:48

have I'm also a projector, so I've just designed it very

Kate Harlow: 00:49:51

intentionally this way. And living on the other side of the

Kate Harlow: 00:49:54

world gives me like all day till 3pm to not do anything, and

Kate Harlow: 00:49:59

other than what. Feels pleasurable for me. So there's,

Kate Harlow: 00:50:01

like, a lot of variables that have allowed me to create a

Kate Harlow: 00:50:04

life, or that have supported me to create a life that is like

Kate Harlow: 00:50:08

that. But it's not necessarily just because I'm on purpose. So

Kate Harlow: 00:50:11

yeah, that's important. And

Unknown: 00:50:13

I also think that when, like, if I'm in the zone

Unknown: 00:50:18

creating and learning and I'm working 12 hours a day, that's

Unknown: 00:50:22

not hard. It's not hard for me. It's life giving. I'm not tired.

Unknown: 00:50:28

I'm fully turned on. So it doesn't mean that letting go,

Unknown: 00:50:33

because am I that's the big that working hard was my big money,

Unknown: 00:50:36

toxic belief, and it was baked in. And I think on some level,

Unknown: 00:50:41

it is still and I notice it so it's not like, all of a sudden

Unknown: 00:50:46

everything's better. Like, I'm still a work in progress in lots

Unknown: 00:50:48

of ways, but I can notice things faster.

Kate Harlow: 00:50:52

Yes, are you a

Unknown: 00:50:53

generator? I'm a manifest generator.

Kate Harlow: 00:50:56

I was actually, that was my first thought. Peter

Kate Harlow: 00:51:00

was like, 12 hours, and it feels so pleasurable. I'm like, that's

Kate Harlow: 00:51:03

your sacral in a couple episodes, we'll talk about human

Kate Harlow: 00:51:07

design, around purpose and all of this stuff, because that's so

Kate Harlow: 00:51:10

funny. Because as a projector, I'm like, ooh, three calls a

Kate Harlow: 00:51:13

day, and that's it. And like, oh, that I'm satiated. And like,

Kate Harlow: 00:51:16

doing writing and stuff also is a different muscle. So it's,

Kate Harlow: 00:51:21

it's, it doesn't feel like work, but it's but. But as a

Kate Harlow: 00:51:24

projector, I'm like, great to spend many hours not doing those

Kate Harlow: 00:51:27

things, and then I have so much capacity for those things, but

Kate Harlow: 00:51:31

not in the same way. It's like, not 12 hours. We're all so

Kate Harlow: 00:51:34

different ever. That's exactly it. That's why I love Human

Kate Harlow: 00:51:38

Design and astrology and all these, these tools to understand

Kate Harlow: 00:51:41

our systems and blueprints, because we are all so different.

Unknown: 00:51:44

Yeah, totally, totally. Am I? Like, I in the human

Unknown: 00:51:47

design? My sister is, like, industrious. Is her kind one of

Unknown: 00:51:52

the pieces, and I'm the vessel for love. And so we talk

Unknown: 00:51:56

vessel for love. Oh, yeah, yeah, wow, that's amazing.

Unknown: 00:52:01

And and her husband is a vessel for love, too, and so she's

Unknown: 00:52:05

industrious. So she just gets so excited about stripping paint on

Unknown: 00:52:09

a furniture and making the furniture look beautiful, or

Unknown: 00:52:12

crafting, or she'll spend hours and hours and hours in a

Unknown: 00:52:15

crafting session. And I'm like, Oh, no way. I want to connect

Unknown: 00:52:20

with people. I want to show love. I want

Kate Harlow: 00:52:24

to, oh my God, that's the right angle cross or

Kate Harlow: 00:52:27

Left Angle cross. The purpose, yeah, that's so cool. I'm the

Kate Harlow: 00:52:30

right angle cross of explanation, which is, oh wow,

Kate Harlow: 00:52:33

taking ideas that are and concepts that have been a

Kate Harlow: 00:52:37

certain way, and flipping them on its head and be and then

Kate Harlow: 00:52:39

people will think like bizarre or genius freak to genius, they

Kate Harlow: 00:52:42

call it. It's like, either, like, whoa, that's genius. That

Kate Harlow: 00:52:44

idea, like that, that thing that we've all been seeing this way

Kate Harlow: 00:52:47

is actually that way. And what this whole podcast

Unknown: 00:52:51

is, yeah, the new

Kate Harlow: 00:52:52

truth, yeah. Or they think I'm a freak, which is

Kate Harlow: 00:52:55

cool.

Unknown: 00:52:58

It's beautiful. I love it.

Unknown: 00:53:00

So the last, one

Kate Harlow: 00:53:02

was that the second one, that was the the final one,

Unknown: 00:53:07

there's one more. So the first was not enough. The

Unknown: 00:53:10

second was, money will solve all your problems. The third was,

Unknown: 00:53:14

money makes you look good. The fourth is, I have to work hard

Unknown: 00:53:19

for money, or money takes sacrifice, basically. And then

Unknown: 00:53:23

the last one is money is bad. So money does bad things. If I had

Unknown: 00:53:29

too much money, I would be bad. I don't want to have money,

Unknown: 00:53:32

because then I will be perceived as bad. So that's the you know,

Unknown: 00:53:38

you look out in the world people that just want more and more and

Unknown: 00:53:41

more, and they're destroying the planet, and they're destroying

Unknown: 00:53:44

everything, and it's all about money, and money motivates

Unknown: 00:53:46

people to make these choices. When we have that belief, it can

Unknown: 00:53:50

show up in a lot of ways, that when money comes into our life,

Unknown: 00:53:55

we become bad, right? Or you reject money because you don't

Unknown: 00:54:01

want to be perceived as bad, or you don't believe that people

Unknown: 00:54:06

with money do good things, and you do good things, so you're

Unknown: 00:54:10

maintaining your identity with money is bad.

Kate Harlow: 00:54:14

That was so many the clients that Callan and

Kate Harlow: 00:54:17

Justin so So Brenda and I met those of you have been here a

Kate Harlow: 00:54:21

long time have heard me talk about Callan and Justin. I

Kate Harlow: 00:54:23

mentioned Justin a little bit ago were the amazing humans I

Kate Harlow: 00:54:28

used to work with when I used to teach business. And Brenda was

Kate Harlow: 00:54:32

one of our clients. She worked with us around her business

Kate Harlow: 00:54:34

stuff, and so that's where we met to begin with. And I

Kate Harlow: 00:54:38

remember back in the day, Callan used to talk so much about that

Kate Harlow: 00:54:41

from stage, about the the money, money scarcity thing, but also

Kate Harlow: 00:54:47

about the money is the it's bad, like all the because so many of

Kate Harlow: 00:54:51

our clients were healers, and, like holistic practitioners and

Kate Harlow: 00:54:54

all, like these big, caring hearts, hearted people. And they

Kate Harlow: 00:54:58

were like, Oh no, no, I don't want to charge that. Much

Kate Harlow: 00:55:00

because that's bad. Like, no, no, I don't want to. And there

Kate Harlow: 00:55:02

was just this, like, shame and guilt around sort of that hippie

Kate Harlow: 00:55:07

granola, like, I gotta have, if I have less, I'll be loved more,

Kate Harlow: 00:55:11

kind of thing.

Unknown: 00:55:13

Yeah, it's so true, and it's so it's generally in the

Unknown: 00:55:18

healing health care solopreneurs that are doing coaching or

Unknown: 00:55:23

spiritual counseling or things like that that often is

Unknown: 00:55:28

something that people will face on what are they going to

Unknown: 00:55:31

charge? You know, they don't want to charge too much, because

Unknown: 00:55:34

then people will think they're greedy. They don't know their

Unknown: 00:55:39

worth too in that regard, and they don't really feel like

Unknown: 00:55:43

money should be a part of healing. And in I do a lot of

Unknown: 00:55:47

archetypal work, and that is often the the artist archetype

Unknown: 00:55:52

that yes, starving artist, yeah, the starving artist, or the

Unknown: 00:55:57

artist that has a real channeled connection with source, and can

Unknown: 00:56:01

really feel the divine guidance. But this 3d world is really hard

Unknown: 00:56:06

for them, so they don't know how to do the 3d world very well,

Unknown: 00:56:10

and they fail a lot at it. And so there's this relationship

Unknown: 00:56:16

with the physical and the spiritual that needs to have.

Unknown: 00:56:19

The physical world is just as spiritual as the divine, right?

Unknown: 00:56:24

So there's a dance in between those two, as we start to marry

Unknown: 00:56:28

into, you know, the magic that money can create. It is really

Unknown: 00:56:32

magical. Actually, it is very spiritual. I mean, I have, like,

Unknown: 00:56:37

I think I'm in a poly relationship with Jen, me and

Unknown: 00:56:41

the Dow Jones, oh my god. Like we wake up and she talks about

Unknown: 00:56:46

it, she shares about it, and I it's like the the the she has

Unknown: 00:56:50

her finger on the pulse of what the planet is doing financially,

Unknown: 00:56:53

too. So it's really, really spiritual too, because you're

Unknown: 00:56:58

seeing the energy of how finance is moving in the world, and

Unknown: 00:57:02

someone makes an emotional decision here, it affects this

Unknown: 00:57:05

and like, so it's so interconnected.

Kate Harlow: 00:57:08

Oh my god, it's so beautiful. This is so

Kate Harlow: 00:57:10

revolutionary. Everything you're saying. And I just like, how

Kate Harlow: 00:57:13

fucking cool is your relationship. Can I come live

Kate Harlow: 00:57:16

with you guys for a couple of weeks and I'm home and I'll just

Kate Harlow: 00:57:18

like, soak it up. Is so powerful and and so really revolutionary.

Kate Harlow: 00:57:23

Like, money is magical. Can you imagine? Like, how many people,

Kate Harlow: 00:57:27

even, you know, who are great with money? They have, like,

Kate Harlow: 00:57:30

401, K, or whatever those things are called. That's an American

Kate Harlow: 00:57:33

term. But, like, the they have, the the houses, the stocks, the

Kate Harlow: 00:57:39

whatever, all the things, and they're crushing it at it, but

Kate Harlow: 00:57:42

still don't have a connection to it. It's still like, very

Kate Harlow: 00:57:45

militant and and very matter of fact, and checking boxes, and

Kate Harlow: 00:57:49

they're like, Yep, okay, I have security because I was told to

Kate Harlow: 00:57:51

have security in the future, because my parents went through

Kate Harlow: 00:57:54

the war or whatever. Like, it's like they were taught to her

Kate Harlow: 00:57:57

grandparents, I guess. Well, no, I'm talking to my generation.

Kate Harlow: 00:58:00

Guess there's everyone here, but it like there's still no

Kate Harlow: 00:58:03

connection, and to hear you even speak the words money is

Kate Harlow: 00:58:07

magical, and watching your face like, can you imagine believing

Kate Harlow: 00:58:12

that for everyone listening like, can you imagine waking up

Kate Harlow: 00:58:16

and being like, excited about the money and your relationship

Kate Harlow: 00:58:21

to money and the magic that it is and brings and that you get

Kate Harlow: 00:58:25

to experience in having this connection and the

Kate Harlow: 00:58:29

interconnectedness to spirituality. I mean, just this

Kate Harlow: 00:58:32

is massive, so big.

Unknown: 00:58:35

Yeah, I love it. I love talking about it. It could go

Unknown: 00:58:38

into depth on so many different levels around it. My thing that

Unknown: 00:58:45

I'm super excited about right now, and I think I mentioned it

Unknown: 00:58:49

before, about the book that i The Lost synapse, that I wrote,

Unknown: 00:58:53

yes, like, when I don't know if we did it on the podcast, but

Unknown: 00:58:56

when you and I were talking about it, I did this, like,

Unknown: 00:58:59

process, and by the end of the process, when I completed it, I

Unknown: 00:59:03

just had to write the book. I was writing, like, three, 4000

Unknown: 00:59:07

words a day. It was a download. It came through. It was time. I

Unknown: 00:59:10

had to do it, right? So I followed that. But the process

Unknown: 00:59:14

that I did before, I didn't. Can I share a little bit about that?

Unknown: 00:59:18

Yeah, and this leads into the the course that I'm running in

Unknown: 00:59:23

November. But, and I know it's today, is 1111, when you put the

Unknown: 00:59:28

podcast up, right?

Kate Harlow: 00:59:30

Yeah, oh yeah, the magic of that. It's 11. Yeah,

Kate Harlow: 00:59:33

this episode I pre planned, and Brenda's gonna tell you about an

Kate Harlow: 00:59:37

amazing program that she has coming up this week. And I pre

Kate Harlow: 00:59:41

planned without knowing she had any programs. I pre planned for

Kate Harlow: 00:59:45

her episode to be 1111 not knowing it was 1111 I was just

Kate Harlow: 00:59:49

November 11, and I put it in the calendar, didn't even think

Kate Harlow: 00:59:52

about the magic number. And then you tell me your course comes

Kate Harlow: 00:59:54

out on the 15th, and I'm like, what? Wait, that is the week I

Kate Harlow: 00:59:58

chose for your episode. Like. I know, and honestly, the magic,

Unknown: 01:00:02

it's unbelievable, and to be safe, just to say about

Unknown: 01:00:06

1111 This is, of course, many people know it's an angel

Unknown: 01:00:10

number. It's a number of it's very auspicious. It's got so

Unknown: 01:00:13

many interpretations around it, but it's the 1111. Follows me

Unknown: 01:00:17

around twice a day, like I see it all the time. It's always

Unknown: 01:00:19

there for me. And when I was doing this process about my

Unknown: 01:00:25

seven generations of ancestors, I was doing this whole healing

Unknown: 01:00:31

of my seven generations, and I had a rock for each one of them.

Unknown: 01:00:35

So I had 126 rocks, 127 because I was one of them. And every day

Unknown: 01:00:42

I would go deep into meditation. I do a whole process on healing

Unknown: 01:00:47

my ancestors, and it was hard work. I was on my knees,

Unknown: 01:00:51

bawling. I download their stories. It was intense, and I

Unknown: 01:00:56

needed to call in reinforcements. I had some

Unknown: 01:00:59

hypnotherapy people that helped me go through things, because

Unknown: 01:01:01

there was black magic, there were curses, there were all this

Unknown: 01:01:04

stuff that I really needed to unfold. And throughout the

Unknown: 01:01:08

journey with each one of the ancestors, I would ask, Do you

Unknown: 01:01:12

know anything about the money web that you can share with me?

Unknown: 01:01:15

And so they would download these energies to me that I had no

Unknown: 01:01:18

idea what they were, but when I completed all seven generations,

Unknown: 01:01:23

so much longer story. But I had this huge altar in my living

Unknown: 01:01:28

room, and each rock represented someone, and I would open it up

Unknown: 01:01:34

every day, and then I'd close it down energetically. It was the

Unknown: 01:01:37

hardest thing I've ever done in my life. But when I finished it,

Unknown: 01:01:41

that's when my book came through. I had to do the work

Unknown: 01:01:45

with the book, and this course that I'm teaching in November.

Unknown: 01:01:50

It's called the intergenerational money reset is

Unknown: 01:01:53

really a culmination of a lot of the information that has come

Unknown: 01:01:56

through. Because this was like 15 years ago. I did it. I

Unknown: 01:02:00

completed it, maybe not, maybe 11 years ago that I completed

Unknown: 01:02:03

it,

Kate Harlow: 01:02:04

11 years ago, yeah,

Unknown: 01:02:07

it was 11 years ago. It was 2000 okay, I was 2016 is

Unknown: 01:02:13

that 11 years? No, okay, nine years, sorry, okay, okay,

Unknown: 01:02:18

whatever, whatever, but it would be great if it was 11. But

Unknown: 01:02:21

anyway, so I finished this process, and I wrote the book,

Unknown: 01:02:25

and then I wanted to do something, because so many of my

Unknown: 01:02:29

clients were coming, and they couldn't unhinge themselves from

Unknown: 01:02:33

some of the stories. They just kept repeating. And they would

Unknown: 01:02:37

set the systems up, they do stuff, and it would just

Unknown: 01:02:39

sabotage. And I knew that there was something underneath their

Unknown: 01:02:43

behavior, and there was a level of consciousness that they had,

Unknown: 01:02:46

and so they were willing to go into the intergenerational

Unknown: 01:02:49

energy to unlock them. So I created this four week course

Unknown: 01:02:55

where I hold space so it's not an it's not an online you're

Unknown: 01:02:58

online, but I am. You're in the room with me. We really

Unknown: 01:03:01

immersive. We really go deep, and we unhinge some of the

Unknown: 01:03:06

belief systems, because we go through some of these toxic

Unknown: 01:03:08

belief systems that we talk today, as well as other things.

Unknown: 01:03:11

And we really in we do a lot of rewiring of these beliefs in a

Unknown: 01:03:17

really theta kind of place that theta and that beta, alpha place

Unknown: 01:03:24

where we're in that different brain wave, so we can rewire

Unknown: 01:03:28

those things and and then create something new. And I want this

Unknown: 01:03:32

to be a movement that once you're part of it, you can do it

Unknown: 01:03:37

every time I offer it, so you don't have to pay again. So you

Unknown: 01:03:39

get in, it's $97 and I want there to be this kind of like

Unknown: 01:03:43

ripple of people that show up every time I do it, because we

Unknown: 01:03:47

borrow the benefits of each one of us releasing right because

Unknown: 01:03:51

we're all connected. So this is my little project right now, and

Unknown: 01:03:55

I want to share it with as many people as possible. But I think

Unknown: 01:03:58

what could happen in this is that it becomes easier for the

Unknown: 01:04:04

next generation. You know, we start unhinging all of this

Unknown: 01:04:08

stuff so that the next generation doesn't have to deal

Unknown: 01:04:10

with it.

Kate Harlow: 01:04:11

Yes, and you empower your children and your

Kate Harlow: 01:04:14

nieces and nephews and any of the young people in your life

Kate Harlow: 01:04:18

just by being and embodying this new way. Wow, that is

Kate Harlow: 01:04:24

incredible. So four weeks, and they gather once a week, and is

Kate Harlow: 01:04:29

there, like, what's the, what's the framework of the program?

Unknown: 01:04:32

It's Saturdays at 10am so it's 10am Pacific, yeah.

Unknown: 01:04:37

Pacific, yeah. I tried to pick it so it could be more

Unknown: 01:04:39

worldwide, all over, yeah, yeah. And Saturday is a good day for a

Unknown: 01:04:44

lot of people, and it is an hour and a half live. You get a ton

Unknown: 01:04:51

of content and information in a platform, of course, and we have

Unknown: 01:04:55

a really robust community platform that everyone interacts

Unknown: 01:04:59

with each. Other and share. So as some things come up, you

Unknown: 01:05:02

share, you talk, and we have people in the community kind of

Unknown: 01:05:06

supporting you throughout the week. And there are meditations,

Unknown: 01:05:11

there's breath work, there's hypnotherapy, there's a lot of

Unknown: 01:05:14

things we do each week, live in person, so that we can really

Unknown: 01:05:20

practice it throughout the week. So you get a an exercise. And, I

Unknown: 01:05:25

mean, I think we do a meditation, we do breath work,

Unknown: 01:05:28

we do a hypnotherapy, and then we do a recalibration of the

Unknown: 01:05:31

entire pieces together as one. So it is you go deep, it goes

Unknown: 01:05:37

deep and it goes fast.

Kate Harlow: 01:05:39

Sounds amazing. And what? Okay, so what if you're,

Kate Harlow: 01:05:43

what if you can't come on Saturdays? But is there a

Kate Harlow: 01:05:45

recording that they

Unknown: 01:05:46

do absolutely but I highly recommend coming.

Kate Harlow: 01:05:50

Of course, the transmission will be live. It'll

Kate Harlow: 01:05:53

be the most potent if you're there live, but it is available

Kate Harlow: 01:05:56

if you're in a funky time zone where you can't come, or you're

Kate Harlow: 01:05:59

you have something on Saturdays that you can't get out of. Yeah,

Kate Harlow: 01:06:03

and

Unknown: 01:06:03

I run it every three to six months. So when you get in,

Unknown: 01:06:07

once you're in, you come to the next one, the next one and next

Unknown: 01:06:10

one. And you can become, once you've bought it, you can become

Unknown: 01:06:14

an affiliate. So when you spread it to other people, you get

Unknown: 01:06:17

paid. So I want everyone to become an affiliate that's in

Unknown: 01:06:20

it, so that you know, as they share it, they get a benefit as

Kate Harlow: 01:06:24

well. Oh my gosh, it's so brilliant. So you can

Kate Harlow: 01:06:28

even you'll, not only will you pay only $97 to do this over and

Kate Harlow: 01:06:33

over again, which is incredibly generous, like, holy shit. Talk

Kate Harlow: 01:06:37

about mission to change the world, but also you will

Kate Harlow: 01:06:41

potentially make your entire money back quite fast and and

Kate Harlow: 01:06:45

then some makeup. Make a make a side gig out of it, one of your

Kate Harlow: 01:06:50

supplementary or whatever you said earlier about having money

Kate Harlow: 01:06:55

come in many ways easily, easily. Oh my gosh. Brenda, God.

Kate Harlow: 01:07:02

I love this. Everyone. Run. The link will be below the episode.

Kate Harlow: 01:07:06

Do you want to just say your website? Because I'm sure it's

Kate Harlow: 01:07:09

on your website. Don't just say your website out loud, but we'll

Kate Harlow: 01:07:12

link it in the show notes, of course. But also, I have to

Unknown: 01:07:15

be honest, it's not on my website because I'm revamping

Unknown: 01:07:19

everything right now, but I will put the sales page in the show

Unknown: 01:07:23

notes. It's called the intergenerational money reset,

Unknown: 01:07:26

okay?

Kate Harlow: 01:07:27

And the intergenerational money reset?

Kate Harlow: 01:07:31

COMM,

Unknown: 01:07:32

no, it's money and desire.com or Brenda st

Unknown: 01:07:35

louis.com, but honestly,

Kate Harlow: 01:07:36

I don't mean your website. I mean the sales page.

Kate Harlow: 01:07:39

Do you have the link?

Unknown: 01:07:39

Yeah, money and desire. Dot the intergenerational money

Unknown: 01:07:44

reset. COMM, like, I will, I'm not actually positive. Let me

Unknown: 01:07:48

see. Let me check. Yeah,

Kate Harlow: 01:07:50

let's just say, just in case someone doesn't

Kate Harlow: 01:07:52

know what show notes are, they also Google. Like, how to find

Kate Harlow: 01:07:54

show notes, or it's below each episode,

Unknown: 01:07:57

yeah? So it's, it's money and a n, d desire.com, and

Unknown: 01:08:03

then slash intergenerational money reset.

Kate Harlow: 01:08:08

Intergenerational money reset, run, get your spot,

Kate Harlow: 01:08:13

share this link. Well, you can get an affiliate. Can they get

Kate Harlow: 01:08:17

an affiliate link now?

Unknown: 01:08:18

No, they need to actually buy, okay? And then you

Unknown: 01:08:23

can become an affiliate, and then anyone that you share it

Unknown: 01:08:27

with, you get 10% basically, of anything that they buy. So you

Unknown: 01:08:33

get 10 bucks every time someone buys it,

Kate Harlow: 01:08:36

amazing. So, so for now, just focus on yourself. I

Kate Harlow: 01:08:40

mean, obviously, still spread the word to all your friends and

Kate Harlow: 01:08:42

and especially this episode. I mean, this episode is so

Kate Harlow: 01:08:46

valuable. Spread this episode with every woman you know. This,

Kate Harlow: 01:08:50

this, this needs to be in the ears of women everywhere on

Kate Harlow: 01:08:54

planet Earth. I mean, gosh, what a different world it would be if

Kate Harlow: 01:08:57

we were all empowered around money and love and they're the

Kate Harlow: 01:08:59

exact same thing, like every one of those beliefs. I'm like, yep,

Kate Harlow: 01:09:01

women have a lot about money and about money, about love that,

Kate Harlow: 01:09:03

about love that, about love. They're all the same. So, so, so

Kate Harlow: 01:09:07

interconnected. And, yeah, this is unbelievably powerful. So, so

Kate Harlow: 01:09:13

excited to hear how it goes. And I mean, probably I'll be there,

Kate Harlow: 01:09:18

and I'm just so excited for you and happy for you and in awe of

Kate Harlow: 01:09:24

you, like, deeply inspired by, I mean, the fiction book series,

Kate Harlow: 01:09:30

movie, you know, trilogy. It's probably going to be many, many

Kate Harlow: 01:09:36

like, I can see Marvel, Star Wars, like worlds upon worlds TV

Kate Harlow: 01:09:40

series, all the things from that book series that is incredible,

Kate Harlow: 01:09:46

like, unbelievable, and then all of this and everything you and

Kate Harlow: 01:09:50

Jen have co created together, and just even hearing about your

Kate Harlow: 01:09:53

relationship, like, what a what a model for everyone listening.

Kate Harlow: 01:09:57

I mean this, this episode is exciting. Extraordinary gift.

Kate Harlow: 01:10:01

I'm just buzzing like, Wow. Thank you. Thank you.

Unknown: 01:10:07

Thank you for doing this and offering brilliance to

Unknown: 01:10:10

the world.

Kate Harlow: 01:10:13

Ditto, yeah, wow. What a gift. What a gift. So

Kate Harlow: 01:10:18

spread this episode to every woman you know and listen to it

Kate Harlow: 01:10:21

over and over again and join Brenda in her intergenerational

Kate Harlow: 01:10:25

money reset. November 15 is when it starts. Yeah, starts.

Kate Harlow: 01:10:32

November 15 today is November 11, 1111, and you're being

Kate Harlow: 01:10:37

divinely guided because it's 1111 All right. Love you so

Kate Harlow: 01:10:41

much, and thanks again, and we'll see you next week. Thank

Kate Harlow: 01:10:44

you.