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In this episode, self to self relationality, melting control to experience the raw chaos of reality, how narcissism and altruism are equally wound-based, how real love is always a transaction whether you believe it or not, and how we can only be responsible for ourselves and responsive to others. We explore what it means to start from a “me and you” place rather than “me me me” or “you you you” which is a lot more challenging than it sounds.

Please listen to this podcast from the beginning and in order. Thanks for listening.