Some conversations just make you feel less alone, and this is one of them. Kelsey sits down with Joe Vitale and Jamie Wanko of the Balancing Act Podcast for a warm, hilarious, and deeply relatable conversation about what it really means to balance life as a teacher. They talk beach mishaps, Gilmore Girls, making time for yourself without guilt, and the kind of friendship that makes you a better teacher and human.

Joe and Jamie are also our Day 2 keynote speakers at the Educate & Rejuvenate Summer Refresh 2026, where they'll record a live podcast episode on July 1st exclusively for attendees. General admission is FREE for the first time ever. Grab your spot: educateandrejuvenate.com/summer2026.