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Ep 15 - Fearless Food Reintroduction: Reclaiming Your Diet After IBS
Episode 1529th August 2023 • Inside Knowledge • Anna Mapson
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Are you eliminating too many different foods to help control IBS?

Discover the significance of diverse dietary choices, learn about the benefits of reintroducing fibre-rich foods, and find out how to navigate the intricacies of a gradual reintroduction process.

Highlights:

  • Overcoming Food Anxiety: Learn how to manage anxiety-driven food avoidance and regain control over your dietary choices.
  • The Role of Fibre: Understand the vital role of fibre in nurturing a healthy gut microbiome and why its reintroduction matters.
  • Mindful Eating: Discover the importance of mindful eating during the reintroduction phase and its impact on digestion.
  • Professional Support: Learn why working with a trained nutrition professional can be valuable in the food reintroduction journey.
  • Symptom Tracking: Get insights into tracking your symptoms and using a food diary to monitor your progress.
  • Success Stories: Hear real-life examples of clients who successfully expanded their diets by reintroducing foods.

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  1. Ep 2 - How to eat - https://player.captivate.fm/episode/019c8f5f-6ea6-4bdf-a586-b2c584fc8821
  2. Ep 6 - Tracking for IBS - get the free IBS symptom tracker - https://player.captivate.fm/episode/e5465c15-fc31-4829-9a7c-525094761043
  3. Email me some ideas for future episodes if you have a topic I should cover - info@goodnessme-nutrition.com
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When it's time for my gut reset clients to start reintroducing foods to their

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diet, they often find it quite scary.

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After all, the reason the food was eliminated in the first place was

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because it caused digestive issues.

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After working through my clear process, you can discover it is

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possible to eat more food than you do now and even enjoy it.

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I've helped hundreds of people get a better understanding of

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how food affects them and how to increase their diet diversity.

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In this episode of the Inside Knowledge podcast, I'll be sharing my experience of

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reintroducing food to an IBS diet, so you can get back to eating a broad and varied

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diet and actually enjoy your food again.

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Hello!

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Welcome to episode 15 of the Inside Knowledge with me, Anna Matson.

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Now, first of all, I want to start by saying sorry for my

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slightly croaky voice this morning.

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It is a little bit croaky because I have been away for the weekend and had

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a lot of late nights and a lot of fun, and now my voice is slightly suffering.

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So, if this is your first episode you've ever listened to, I don't

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know why it sounds like this.

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Anyway, I'm going to struggle on if it's too annoying.

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Skip to the next one.

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So we're going to talk today about why you have to reintroduce foods, and

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how to in a way that feels safe to you.

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I'm never up for pushing anyone to start introducing foods they don't

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feel ready to, but what I want to do in this episode is explain to you a

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little bit about why it's important, and then how you can actually go about it

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in a way that wouldn't feel too scary.

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You can do it in your own time, wherever you are in the world, with whatever foods

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you feel like you need to reintroduce.

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often foods that you're thinking about reintroducing is really vegetables,

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fruits, wheat often, and dairy.

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I'd say those are the most common foods that people are excluding.

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And they are very, very important to us because of the fibre.

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So when we eat a good fibre rich diet, it's feeding

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beneficial bacteria in the gut.

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When you don't eat that, when you have a low fibre diet for the long term.

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You're effectively starving out your gut microbes of food.

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And if they don't have enough food to eat, they don't want to hang around

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in your gut, so it means they go.

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And this means that other bad bacteria can take over the place

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of the good guys, and this can lead to further digestive problems.

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Now, if you're in a situation where you haven't eaten fibre for a long time,

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maybe you've been doing like a kind of Atkins diet, or even the carnivore

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diet, which is basically just eating meat and animal products and no fibre.

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This can lead to a transition period where your body is readjusting and

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learning to take in the good bacteria again, so it can take a little while

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to get to a good position which is why I really suggest going slowly so

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you don't scare yourself off and you don't start some of these big problems.

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The other thing to be really conscious of is how your anxiety is around food.

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A lot of people I work with have been avoiding foods for a long time because

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of severe digestive discomfort, and it's led them to have really bad food anxiety.

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So, thinking about food a lot, becoming quite obsessive with what

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is and what isn't included in certain food products, and, the thought of

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changing it can be really challenging.

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So there's a mental aspect to this as well as a digestive and kind of health

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aspect and I think it's really important for you to think about how much of this

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is anxiety driven because when we're really nervous and anxious that can

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actually affect our digestion as well.

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This brings me on to the first Point in the process that I want you to think

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about what is the right time to start reintroducing foods Firstly like you don't

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want to do this when you're just about to move house You're going on holiday in two

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weeks or maybe you're being made redundant to work These are all super stressful

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things or things that change your routine.

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So it's important to find a time In your life where you can have some space in your

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schedule, you can start to plan what's going to happen and also have a little

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bit of space for if things do go wrong.

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If you're going to need to take a little afternoon on the sofa, for

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example, to feel a bit tired, maybe just trying to find a little bit

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of time in your life where it's slightly less busy and less stressful.

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Although I would say nearly all of my clients have busy family lives,

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caring responsibilities and full on jobs, so I know that is hard to find.

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But when your digestion is calm and you feel relaxed, that is a better time

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to try to start introducing new foods.

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So that's the first point, is find a good time for you.

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Then secondly, you want to be aware that some kind of reaction to food

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reintroduction is considered normal.

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So whilst, like I said, you can be quite anxious about changes in your

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digestion, and maybe a mild increase in gas or bloating and that sort of thing,

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and those kind of thoughts can really go on to trigger a full blown flare up

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if you start to become super anxious.

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So it's normal for there to be some kind of digestive reaction.

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And this might look like a bit of gurgling in your stomach, maybe a little

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bit more gas production, maybe, just some changes in how you feel in terms of

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fullness and satiety, because sometimes...

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Eating a vegetable rich diet, it's quite bulky, so although it's low calorie

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and low energy when you eat a lot of fruit and vegetables, there's quite

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a lot of content, and for some people that feels very uncomfortable to have

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a full tummy, even though the calorie and energy density is pretty low.

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So the reason we get some of these kind of gurglings and gas production could

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be down to gut microbes enjoying the fibre that is finally getting to the gut.

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This could be a good thing.

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It might also be down to changes in your bacteria.

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Sometimes we get changes in bad bacteria dying off.

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They can kind of throw up a little last flare and the last, bit of gurgling as

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they put, as they go on their way out.

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And it might be down to your body just adjusting to certain changes

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in fats, proteins, and carbs.

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Some amount of bloating and gas doesn't mean that this isn't working

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or that you should stop the trial.

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You need to work out what is mild discomfort, what you can tolerate,

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and actually what is too much, what's unbearable, and you need to stop.

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It's really down to you, and so definitely recommend listening to

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your body and stopping the process if it feels too uncomfortable.

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Point number three is to take very small increases in foods to begin with, so

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starting low and slow, and this is often my advice with anything to do with IBS.

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Don't rush in and start everything all at once.

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Start low and slow, , with very small amounts of your

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chosen food and then build up.

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Now, one way I reintroduce bringing back fibre for those people

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who have been avoiding a lot of vegetables for a very long time.

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is something called a microbiome mash up.

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This is a mash up of 15 to 20 different cooked vegetables.

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You cook them down, maybe just a small portion of each, but you just mix

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them up and it goes into, to be fair, quite a brown, gooey, lumpy mash.

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A bit like baby food.

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But you only need to eat one to two tablespoons a day.

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The rest of it can be chilled or it can be frozen in small boxes.

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This is a strategy that's been used by someone called Dr.

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Datis Karazian.

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He works with autoimmune patients to reintroduce foods after elimination diets,

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and I just read about it once on a blog.

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Um, but it actually works very well for those people who've avoided

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all vegetables for way too long.

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Think about it like you are weaning a baby, so you're

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literally just reintroducing foods back to your gut microbes.

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This mash up can, you can add a little bit of salt to it to

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make it a bit more interesting.

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You can add any kinds of vegetables, and it's just literally a small amount just to

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sort of reintroduce and reacclimatize your gut microbes to a small amount of fiber.

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So, that's one approach.

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The other thing you could do is to try each food individually, particularly

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foods that you know are going to be a little bit safer, foods that you're

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less worried about, just to try to bring things back one at a time.

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And in this way, you end up with more data about the foods

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and about what they do to you.

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Now, the fourth point is going back to episode number three of

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this podcast, which was about eating mindfully and eating slowly,

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really focusing on how you eat.

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During this reintroduction phase, you might find it helpful to

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focus on the basics of eating.

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This includes things like chewing your food really well,

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sitting upright at a table.

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Trying to get into a relaxed state before you start eating by doing

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some deep breathing, focusing on diaphragmatic breath, sitting

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upright, these things really do help because they get your mind into a

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safe space in order to receive food.

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And it might sound too basic, but it does make a big difference, so just a

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little reminder to go back and listen to that episode if you haven't already.

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My next point is really about working with a trained nutrition professional

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who understands IBS and SIBO.

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Someone who really knows about what foods do to your digestion, where

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to start, what order to do them in.

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It really helps depending on what you've been avoiding.

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And someone who understands what these foods can do to you and what what

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reactions you might be expected to.

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experience.

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It's helpful to understand these kind of things as you're bringing the foods

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back in, but also it's helpful to have someone cheering you on, to have someone

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supporting you, someone you can ask questions to if you feel like things are

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not going well, because if you try to do this on your own, and I appreciate for

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some of you that is the only option, but if you can, working with someone who can

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fully explain to you what is Okay, and also when to stop can be really helpful.

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Even if you are not working with a nutrition professional, then you're still

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going to need to track your symptoms.

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And the best way to do this is to use a food diary and track your symptoms

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as you're introducing each food.

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Now, I did an episode on this previously.

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And you can go back and listen to episode 6 if you want a bit

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more details on how to do that.

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Also, in episode 6, in the show notes, is a link so you can download my diet

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and IBS tracker, which I use with my clients, and will help you if you

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don't know where to start with this.

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The things I want you to look at though is to think about how is your

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digestion reacting to the food that you've been eating, but also think

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about your other signs in the body such as has my sleep been affected?

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What has my skin been like during this trial?

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Am I bloated all day or just after I've eaten that food?

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Am I still bloated in the morning if I ate it yesterday?

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Is the reaction to this food immediate or does it appear a few days later?

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And also, think about your mood.

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Is my mood changing?

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These are sort of slightly tangential effects of food, but

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I think they're really important

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it's also good to monitor your stress levels throughout this because if you

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notice anxiety is particularly high, it's worth recording that in your food

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diary because, as we know, it can make a difference to how you digest your food.

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If you're someone who's been avoiding loads and loads of foods and your diet

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is very narrow, then my last point is to think about how you're going to

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choose which foods to bring back in.

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In some ways, It doesn't really matter.

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It doesn't matter as long as you're eating more variety and more different foods.

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But, one of the things you could try to consider is, are you just bringing

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in foods that your body needs, or is it foods that you've been missing the most?

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Sometimes I ask my clients, What would you prefer to do?

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Would you want to go for something that you really love, that you want to

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try, but might be more of a trigger?

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Or, should we focus on something that I think your body needs and that is missing

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from your diet, but might not be as tasty?

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And what I mean by that is sometimes people haven't been craving carrots and

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they haven't been craving beans, for example, but I think they would be a

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really good fibre addition to their diet.

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And it very much depends on the individual and what you like and

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what you have been eating so far.

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But try to be, try to avoid being led by your cravings when you're working

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out which foods to reintroduce.

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Try to look at your diet overall.

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Now, for some people, it might be focusing, like I said at the

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beginning, on vegetables, fibre, beans and pulses, maybe nuts and seeds.

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For other people, it might be reintroducing fats.

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So I focused on fiber in this episode, but for you, if you've been on a very

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low fat diet for a very long time, maybe you need to think about reintroducing

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healthy fats, and you could start by small amounts of avocado or little

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bits of nuts and seeds, for example.

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These are also important contributions to a good, healthy, balanced diet.

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I thought I might just end this episode with a few examples of how

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two of my clients have previously reintroduced foods in the past few years.

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So there's one client, he'd been on a low FODMAP diet for over two years,

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which isn't recommended because it's cutting out all fermentable fibres,

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um, and this was to help him manage abdominal pain, constipation and gas.

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As part of when we were working together, we ran a SIBO breath test, which suggested

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that he might have had hydrogen sulfide gas producing bacteria in his intestines.

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Now, there isn't a clear test for this in the UK.

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If you live in the US, there is a test for hydrogen sulfide, but

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we don't have one here in the UK.

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But what we can do is just look at the results and see.

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They give us a suggestion that you might have hydrogen sulfide.

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So this was my

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conclusion from his test results.

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To address this sort of SIBO, the best approach is actually to really increase

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fibre, almost to the point of eating a vegan diet., I also suggested he went on

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a low sulphur diet, so cutting out things like onions, garlic, cruciferous veg,

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and gave him some supplements as well.

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And this was...

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understandably anxiety causing for him.

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So after years of avoiding fiber, I was asking him almost to reverse his diet to

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start eating loads of fiber and hardly any meat and hardly any animal product.

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So, to help his anxiety, we spent a long time talking about how fiber supports

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his gut health, how it was going to crowd out hydrogen sulfide producing bacteria.

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And actually he was really brave and he ate a lot of prebiotic foods and he really

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went for it, in fact, almost too much.

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He was eating greenish bananas, artichokes, which are particularly

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high fibre foods, and he went for that microbiome veggie mashup.

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He really, like, threw himself into it within his limits of

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what felt comfortable for him.

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And within a few weeks he had expanded his range of foods quite considerably.

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So...

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I suppose my reason for choosing this example was to show that somebody

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who felt like he couldn't go down this route actually did it, and he

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managed to get there in the end, to get there to expand out his diet.

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Another example was somebody who had a long term constipation, and

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she had been told by a kinesiologist to avoid gluten for 12 years.

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Well, about 12 years before, she'd been told to avoid gluten.

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She was eating quite a lot of fruit and vegetables, but eating the same

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things day in, day out, and there wasn't much variety in her diet.

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She was really worried about gluten, because she was told

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it wasn't good for her, because she hadn't eaten it for so long.

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And so I talked to her a lot about gluten, how it affects the gut, and

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how grains can actually be a good part of a healthy, balanced diet.

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So, because wheat can sometimes be an issue on its own, we started out with

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non wheat containing gluten foods, such as, grains like rye, spelt, and barley.

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And this didn't really change her symptoms, so she was eventually more

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confident and was able to move on to eating small amounts of bread made

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from wheat and pasta and other foods.

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So she was able to see eventually that eating a balance

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of Gluten containing foods.

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It wasn't actually affecting her symptoms.

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She lost her fear of eating it, which meant she could enjoy eating out again,

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she was eating better with her family, and just could go for meals with her friends

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again and enjoy a bit more variety.

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The reason I wanted to pick out this example is her anxiety wasn't as

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bad, it was just so much of a habit.

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It took a while for her to change her thought processes to

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allow gluten back into her diet.

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The reason I wanted to highlight it is that Sometimes people can get

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nutrition advice of people who are not trained nutrition professionals,

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who don't have any qualifications in understanding nutrition science and

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that can lead to some Dodgy advice, so please be careful where you're getting

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your nutrition information from.

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All right, so that brings us to the end of this episode.

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If you've got a huge range of foods you've been avoiding and you want to do

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something about changing it, please get in touch, book a call with me and we

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can talk about what symptoms you've got.

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I can share how I could help you as part of my IBS nutrition

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package, the three month gut reset.

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I'm doing that currently in a group setting for a quite low price or, one to

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one individually which is all tailored to you and your different situation.

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with people all over the world so wherever you are, whatever time zone,

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hopefully we can work something out.

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I'm UK based but,, I do try and accommodate people

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from all over the world.

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Also in the show notes is a link to my email address, so if you want me to

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cover a particular episode or there's something you'd really like me to

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investigate, then please let me know.

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Happy to take some suggestions for future episodes of The Inside Knowledge.

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Right, that is it for this week.

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Hopefully I will have a bit more of a sturdy voice next

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week, and I will see you then.

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