When I sat down with Lauren Stephens of Dudley Stephens, what struck me most was how many beginnings sit inside her story: the career she thought she’d have, the infertility journey that shifted her path, and the unexpected moment she realized she had an idea worth betting on. 

In this conversation, Lauren shares how she launched a family business before she felt ready, and why signing a formal agreement early on became one of the smartest decisions they made.

Lauren also opens up about the parts no one prepares you for: managing people for the first time, staying steady when customers or employees aren’t happy, and learning where to draw boundaries so the business doesn’t swallow the rest of your life. 

What You’ll Hear

• The moment life forced her to rethink everything (00:00)
• Bringing her mom and sister into the idea (01:21)
• Why clear roles and ownership matter (11:32)
• How cozy-at-home culture fueled unexpected growth (20:07)
• Hiring lessons and learning to lead (24:51)
•  Different phases of motherhood and how evolving careers (36:24)

Lauren’s story is about more than entrepreneurship. It’s about listening to the quiet nudge that tells you to begin, trusting your own pace, and allowing the hard seasons to shape the ones that follow. If you’ve ever wondered whether you’re “ready” to start something new, this one is for you.

You can watch this interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/A_0BsOeWAno 

For a full transcript and more, check out our blog post: https://www.lindsaycz.com/show-notes/lauren-dudley-stephens-26  

Check out more from Lauren and from Dudley Stephens:

Visit www.dudley-stephens.com. Take advantage of 30% off sitewide until December 2, 2025 using the code HOLIDAY30.

Check out the new Manchester pullover that Lauren wore during the episode.

Keep up with the latest on Instagram: @dudley_stephens

Connect with Lauren on Instagram: @laurendudleystephens 

[00:00:19] Like you have to grow with thick skin. It's really hard.

[00:00:38] It's something that you might not have known you needed, but also, my guest, Lauren Stephens, is so great at explaining what it takes to be. A successful entrepreneur. So my friend Lauren founded, with her mom and her sister, the brand Dudley Stephens. If you're watching this right now, I am wearing a Dudley Stephens fleece.

[00:01:21] So I became a fan of these things a few years ago. I kind of thought, oh, they're just in this area in New England where we live, but they're not. They're everywhere. And I have worn them. To work functions. I have worn them to Thanksgiving dinner with the skirt. I have worn them, and I love to wear them all the time on the fields when I'm watching my kids play their respective sports because they're that warm, but they also look even better.

[00:02:05] So I am so appreciative of Lauren for taking the time because God knows her schedule is crazy, and I love and pay attention to how her friend coined the phrase, Stay at Home Working Mom. I love that. Alright, here she is, Lauren Stephens. I hope you enjoy. Lauren, thank you so much for joining me. I always loved talking to you.

[00:02:38] Lauren: Yes.

[00:02:39] Lauren: It's been very surreal, and I'm finding myself constantly going back to photos from 10 years ago.

[00:03:08] How much has changed, but also has stayed the same in a way, I guess, if that makes sense. And yeah, we are one year in, hosting our podcast, Two Sisters in Business, and we've had so much fun doing it. And I was so honored when you reached out about coming onto your podcast because we've just had, we've had so much fun recording this podcast.

[00:03:45] Lindsay: I know. Why do you think that is?

[00:03:51] Like I, I just think it's like, it's very like of the moment right now, and everyone's really enjoying that. Even on social media, like, we'll post clips and little blurbs from the podcast, and I just think people are really. Enjoying like a deeper way of connecting with founders and with, you know, people of note, I also just like anybody, like, I just think it's more of an intimate way to talk to people, if that makes sense.

[00:04:30] Friends of mine that were like, We don't get that sport. I'm like, just pick a sponsor. Like, do you like Cheerios? Like, what do you like? Like, once you find the thing or connect with a driver about whatever, a race car. Anyway, I think it's similar in life. It's just, and especially being a woman, it's like, yes, there's such a great connection when people share their stories, and I am.

[00:05:02] Lauren: Yes, I just finished the second season. I could, I want, I

[00:05:06] Lauren: Okay.

[00:05:07] Lauren: I thought it was. Is it so good? The sec, yeah. The second season was, I mean, it, you know, the first season was so good, but they really did a good job. I thought it was so good. I was watching alone and laughing at it, like my computer, as I was watching it.

[00:05:24] Lauren: I think it was, I feel like they like, have captured this.

[00:05:44] Lindsay: I Right. I have actually been like saving it because the last time it went so fast, and I was like, oh, so yeah. That's great to hear.

[00:05:53] Lindsay: But my point.

[00:05:54] Lindsay: My sisters are doing their podcast. It's like, I don't know. It makes,

[00:06:11] Lindsay: Right?

[00:06:33] I love. I always pay attention to what's coming out next. Because I do think it's just such an elevated style that's really comfortable, but also achieves the put-together type of look. Yes, exactly. Yeah. So, yeah. So I want to, I want you to share more about that, and I wanna start with what is the thing no one tells you about launching a family business?

[00:07:16] And so, so that. I think that people should talk about that. And I think that it even goes to like a partnership if you're starting something with a friend or, I just think that even though your family or your best friends with somebody, or it's a colleague that you trust, like you have to lay that all out on paper and like agree on it and sign it and, and be very clear on like what everyone's roles are and what the ownership breakdown is.

[00:08:08] Like, there's always somebody who is spearheading an idea, and it's, you know, I'm not saying that you have the power or you're more senior than another person, but like. I've heard others. Things where it's been 50 50 and it just doesn't end well. Like, you need to have someone who has a little bit more say in things, and it has, it should be this person who kind of spearheaded the idea, as they should really be the one to have a little bit more ownership.

[00:08:48] So, yeah. You know, I will tell anybody that I meet with, or who's starting a company, like really keep that in mind and like have an agreement, you know, make sure everyone signs off on it.

[00:09:04] Lauren: Yeah, so we, so I have a little bit more ownership than the rest of my family, a nd really it was because. I went out on a limb and did all, not all of it, but like really was like sitting everybody down. I was like, I'm gonna do this. And so because of that, and because I kind of, well, also like to go back to.

[00:09:42] I hate to use the word cutthroat, but it was, you know, the beauty industry is, and I worked in fashion before that, so all of these jobs were super intense and long hours and lots of travel and, I loved every minute of it, but the minute that I couldn't get pregnant, my priorities were like shifted.

[00:10:17] and here I was having done this for like over 12 years. It was my career. It was what I was expecting to do, long-term work in pr and and I just walked away from it. And then the next week, he came home from work, and I was like. I'm gonna start a fleece clothing conversation.

[00:10:35] Lauren: It was like no time that had passed, and I had already talked because my mom, yeah, my mom had the idea initially, like she was like, whWhyan't this fleece.

[00:11:09] But, but as any like, entrepreneur will tell you, like the minute you have an idea about something, like. There's no turning back. And so, I just told my husband that he thought I was crazy. And then I enlisted the help of my mom and my sister, and to answer the question of the agreement, our dad was also very helpful in the beginning, and he was the one that we pitched to for the initial.

[00:11:44] Lindsay: Yes. In the sport. Yep. The sports agency.

[00:11:46] Lindsay: Huge sports agency reps. A ton of Olympic athletes, among others.

[00:12:15] So, so yeah, so that was like the beginning, and like we went into his office and like sat down and signed the paperwork and like, basically like, it was like, here we go. Like we're starting this all together. And my sister was working in events. She was working for Starwood, a hotel group, doing marketing, nd Oh wow.

[00:12:43] Lindsay: Yeah. No, she's so put together, your mom on the Today Show. I was like, she is just.

[00:12:49] Lindsay: Beautiful.

[00:12:56] So like we, all of us were so excited, we're like, let's do this. And I think that, like. Something that not many people will talk about or tell with a family business is like, what does it look like behind, what does it look like on paper? Like, how does it operate? You know? And so I think it's so important.

[00:13:16] Lindsay: Well, and, time out for a second, 'cause one thing that you made me think about is I do think there's really this level of, don't you think it's hard when there's an idea, you know, it's good, you really believe in it, but it's not yet.

[00:13:47] Lauren: Yes. It's so true. And I think that. Over the course of my corporate career, I would have ideas all the time. Like, at one point, I emailed a friend, and I was like, I'm gonna start a blog. And this was before blogs, you know, this was, so, I'm very, I'm old, so like, this was like a long time ago. And I was like, I'm gonna start a blog where I go to every restaurant in the city and rate their french fries, and like, they, you know, so like, I just, I was like always trying to think of like an idea where I could work for myself.

[00:14:41] And you know what's funny is that like. I, 'cause back then, like the, I wouldn't, I didn't even know what I was doing. I just started this blog on something, some site, and I would just put posts of like, things I was wearing and everything, but it didn't go anywhere. And, I would like to ask my husband, I was like, can you just like take a picture of me in what I'm wearing?

[00:15:16] Like it, it's not an easy thing.

[00:15:38] More like a reframe of this is my idea, and it is an executable idea, you know? But just because I think sometimes so often people have ideas, a nd they don't even start, because of that fear. Yes, exactly. When you talked about the business plan for folks who really like, are interested in what you're saying, but don't have someone who's a mentor, like your dad was like, what?

[00:16:08] You know, what does that look like? Yeah, on paper

[00:16:17] Like, to your point of people won't even get started because they feel intimidated or overwhelmed. But, you know what? All you need is not all you need, but okay. So what you need is a lawyer. And I think I said already, but A lawyer service, or if you have a family lawyer or someone you work with.

[00:16:59] and then you can open a bank account, and you can raise money however you feel comfortable with. Like, you can use a GoFundMe, you can pitch family and friends. You can also apply for like a line of credit through your bank, depending on your business plan and what you need. Already have in place, and then you know, a business plan.

[00:17:34] and just stick true to that. And like, you know, create a brand. You can create a brand, you can hire a graphic designer. I wanna encourage people that do have ideas. And I think that, like, as women working for ourselves is just so valuable.

[00:17:54] Lauren: Agreed.

[00:18:15] Lauren: Yes. I think two answers. The first one being I didn't expect to learn so much about myself, like, and how I operate in certain scenarios and situations, and along the way, it hasn't been perfect either. Like, I think, you know, that, you don't realize that when you do succeed in this entrepreneurial world, that you're gonna have to like manage people.

[00:19:03] I'm so thankful for that now that I like, have learned those skills, and I don't know, you know, hopefully we stay in business, and we continue to grow, have the company, and I continue to manage people, but, but I've learned a lot in that aspect, and I didn't expect that. I also didn't expect that we'd have a global pandemic, right?

[00:19:40] Lindsay: The pandemic did because I mean, and when you just said five years out. I don't know. Isn't that crazy? Insane. Like, insane. Like, when I think about that and hear that number, I'm like, really? I, my god. I know. Yeah, but because what do you think it was, you think it was like the cozy, the

[00:20:07] And they were amazing. They, you know, they had other brands they were working with, but we grew so much that they started really taking on more business for us and all that. And then during COVID, the factory obviously shut down, and things were just kind of at a halt. There were times when we really thought we were not gonna make it through this.

[00:20:51] as I had, you know, other brands that we are friends with had, they, wholesalers were returning merchandise 'cause they were closed. Yeah. So, that, you know, we didn't have that. So it was almost just like luck in a way. Like we were just kind of in the right place at the right time. And our sales doubled, tripled over the course of those next few years.

[00:21:36] It's like, that's really it. And we found these amazing women who have come in and really over, you know, transformed our production supply chain. Jess, on our team, likes her experience. Amazing. And, we could not have done that without her. And then our marketing team and just everybody came together during that time, and then with the rapid growth, it was an amazing experience.

[00:22:17] Lindsay: What were the, like, two things that you found most valuable about managing people?

[00:22:39] Lindsay: Right.

[00:22:49] Allows them to do their jobs too, so they're not freaking out all the time. So, this is something I learned. And I think the other thing would be to keep things small, like don't overhire. I think we overhired at certain points 'cause we had the money. As we had, we were able to hire, and then we felt we needed all this help.

[00:23:32] And, you know it, there's something to be said about a small team and.. We're direct to consumer, like we're digital things, you know, we don't need to be everywhere all the time. So like a small team is very valuable. I think there's something to be said about that. So if you're listening to this and you're an entrepreneur and you are about to hire a team, like hire less is my, like, don't, yeah.

[00:23:59] Lindsay: So good. That's Aliett Buttelman with Phase It, who created Phase It, the Glitter Freckles shared the same thing, and she is Nice. She shared how their brand basically blew up, similar to yours, and how you're referencing the pandemic to Taylor Swift wearing her glitter freckles.

[00:24:22] Lauren: Yep.

[00:24:31] Lauren: Yes.

[00:24:34] Lauren: Yes, exactly.

[00:24:37] Lauren: Yeah, that's exactly right. I think that, like, and you know, you'll know when you interview people, I mean, I think everybody. You can get a feel for someone, and you have, you know, I think ask for references always, and like. We always have this, an inside joke on our team.

[00:25:09] And you know, and we always talk about differences in generations and like how we all operated differently back in the early Yeah. Two thousand, like we wore suits. I would. I wore a theory suit to every interview that I went to, and I like to write a handwritten thank you note, like, so that, like a professional thing, not appearance, but that professional mentality for me is like very crucial.

[00:25:52] And, like, like our product and like our customers. Like, not everybody loves it. And like, that's fine. And so you have to learn that. Like you have to grow with thick skin. It's really hard.

[00:26:09] Lauren: I do, I think an email is just fine now. And you know, if they send a handwritten note, even better, but like as long as they're on it and like sending a thank you and expressing what they love about the company or some little tidbit or whatever, like that just goes a long way, and it doesn't take that much time. It's like a quick thing.

[00:26:42] Lauren: Yes, exactly. Yeah. Totally.

[00:26:44] Lauren: Yeah. Really important.

[00:26:56] Lauren: Yes. I think that we are, all of us. I mean, as everyone's saying, like we're just on the forefront of everything it's going to be able to do, and we're trying to implement it where we can. Like for example, it's helping us with customer service right now. So, we have AI set up so that, like,e little quick questions from people can be answered through AI, and then if it's more complicated, our customer service team will step in.

[00:27:36] Lindsay: Think it's interesting. We've recently had meetings talking about how it's going to be implemented at school,

[00:27:42] Lindsay: For our kids.

[00:27:43] Lindsay: So, and you know, and some of the things I think.

[00:28:04] Ooh, there are ways that you can sort of simplify.

[00:28:21] I just like, yeah. I, yeah. I feel like people can kind of tell if like ChatGPT wrote stuff like, so,

[00:28:28] Lauren: Right.

[00:28:45] Lauren: Exactly. And I think that now maybe that, to go back to what we were talking about earlier, like maybe that's why podcasts are so. Everyone loves them right now because it is so much of a human connection, right? Like, I don't know, people might be like craving that and even more so in the future, that like, oh, we're like real humans,

[00:29:04] Lauren: Here's our experience. And like,

[00:29:20] Lauren: Yes, of course. Like right when we were launching, I found out I was pregnant, which is like life.

[00:29:47] I think it kind of pushed me to do it 'cause it was like, all right, I literally, you know, I'm, I am leaving this career behind that I worked so hard on, and so like, what do I have to show for myself? I kind of felt like I needed something to like, have ownership over, and it was something I could control, where, like, the fertility stuff was just so.

[00:30:22] Lindsay: Which is still exciting, the timing of all that.

[00:30:30] but you know, when you're ready to start a business. Really, nothing will stop you when you have an idea, and you're passionate about it, and not even getting pregnant. Like it, you know, the minute I got pregnant, it was like, okay, let's do this. Like, we're gonna have a baby, and we're gonna launch this company.

[00:31:04] Oh my God. Yeah. Like I, you know, khaki and I, we just never, you know, we didn't take time off. We just kept bringing our babies along, and we were able to shift things. You know, obviously, make it, it wasn't like we had a boss being like, come in, you know, when those days.

[00:31:21] Lauren: It wasn't like, terrible. It was very nice, actually. And we were able to work, we worked outta my house, but yeah, Kaki and I have memories of like, we were both then pregnant. She was pregnant with her second, and I with my first, and yeah, we were still fulfilling our own orders, so we were like pregnant, bending over, boxing things up, and sending them out, but it was very thrilling.

[00:32:08] No. Or like, yeah. Women working for themselves. I think maybe a little bit, but like we just kind of set out knowing. I really was just excited to keep working and keep doing something I was so passionate about while having kids. I think that was also for my personality. I needed to do something; I probably would've just gone back to work.

[00:32:47] Lindsay: No, I can relate to that to like theneed to just kind of keep the wheels moving and going. YesAnddd it's funny 'cause during the pandemic that sort of opened the door to, at the time I was doing sports with Fox and we were doing, I was doing some NASCAR coverage with them. Yep. It's random that I'm bringing up that sport twice.

[00:33:23] A whole different side of these drivers. 'cause they were at home, couldn't go anywhere, and it was like, whoa, this is really cool. It's a whole different world, so that was really fascinating, and it's interesting to me how much stuff. When can it be done on Zoom? It is, you know, and it's painful that that's some of the norm.

[00:33:59] Yes. But I'm like, whoa, this is a curveball. Like, you know, the need to, you have a middle schooler, you have a child that I don't know, man. Yeah. So a lot of different layers.

[00:34:20] One in two years old. Obviously, they know who we are, but like, and newborns especially, it's a, well, it's like little kids, little problems. Big kids. Yeah, big problems. That being said, that is obviously very true. That's why it's a saying. Like, you know, I remember when they were like one and two, they're so hard.

[00:35:01] I'm very involved with their after-school activities and driving them places. My mom actually told Khaki and me, my sister, her, like, she gives us advice all the time. Obviously, she's our mom, but she said something that has sat with me, and it's that those conversations in the car are very valuable, especially when they get into middle school and high school, and just being with them in the car is when they kind of open up.

[00:35:42] And, and then all the other things, but like, you know, just those moments when they need us more, it's tricky figuring out when that is in their lives. And, but, you know, we're. My husband too, like he tries to get home for bedtime, you know, when they're going to bed, nd now they go to bed later.

[00:36:24] That's when they're little; it's hard when they're not in school. So if there are young moms listening, like there is at this. And not end, but like light in the tunnel of like school all day and like homework at night too. And you know, they have lives and their lives are blossoming. Like they're really growing into these little humans that are Productive and independent, and helpful sometimes around the house. I mean, not always, but but, I don't know. So I think it's like finding those little moments to be there. I'm thinking about a lot, and that helps with like feeling like you're balanced, and you're there. But like one of my girlfriends I was with over the summer, I don't know if she'll listen to this or not, but I will tell her too 'cause I'm gonna call her out.

[00:37:30] Yeah. But I'm working. But I don't have like childcare after school, like working mom,

[00:37:51] So do you do both? Like you, are you also really involved in their morning routine?

[00:38:13] He'll, like he coach, he coached my daughter's flag football team this past fall, which like. I don't know if that's a hit where you guys live. Are the girls playing flag football?

[00:38:27] Lauren: Me too. I hope I know, like Darienne has a few teams this year.

[00:38:48] Like it was so, they didn't win a game, but it didn't matter

[00:38:54] Lauren: Yes. So she's doing it again. And like, I, you know, well, fortunately, or unfortunately, my husband now will coach again, which, you know, he's excited about. But, I, you know, so. With my husband, I have to shout out and give him a lot of credit, too.

[00:39:28] Where, yeah, we share a lot.

[00:39:54] Right, and especially I think I really value, obviously, like being present in the moment, and I think sometimes that's really hard. Like you have to work to be able to make that happen. You have to like structuring time. Yes. So that you're really right.

[00:40:19] Like, oh, I need to get this done then. And like, like this morning I had something to do on my computer, and I had no other time than to wake up at five 30 and do it this morning. And that's fine. I'm a morning person, so I can do that. Some people are more nighttime people. Yeah. You know, whatever the case may be.

[00:40:44] Lindsay: It's, and it, I, so I just, there's someone posted something on Instagram, I'll send it to you. I can't remember her name right now, but I will share it in this space for everyone. But it was fascinating.

[00:41:12] Oh. And I was like, that's actually fascinating. And you know, people obviously talk about the tech and how that's not great right before bed. We're horrible about that, you know? I know. Yeah. So bad. Yeah, but I think I've started to think a lot more about my sleep and I, that is one thing that I do realize this, like with this timing of my kids' ages, is like the importance of, yes, mine wanna talk in the car sometimes, not all the time, but I'm finding it more and more, which to your point, yes, super valuable, because when it happens, it's like, yes, exactly.

[00:42:08] What are you guys excited about and working towards?

[00:42:34] Yeah. Loyal followers and community and all that. And so next year we're, now we're just trying to think through like. These partnerships have done so well for us, and it's always a win-win when we partner with a like-minded influencer or brand. So I'm currently just like casting the net wide on like brands, influencers, artists, like who's out there if anyone's listening, or do you have I send them our way.

[00:43:02] Lauren: We look for, I mean, you know, if it's an influencer, we want them to be influential. It's we, and we need, 'cause we, you know, at the end of the day, have to sell the stuff that you're partnering with them on. And, but we look for people who are like-minded. L would love to partner with a brand that also has a sustainability component, because we make everything from recycled plastic bottles.

[00:43:51] This is really cool. Like she's a recording artist. No, she's a painter. She's, oh god, yeah. Yeah. She likes to paint these amazing, she's known for abstract faces and landscapes, but mainly likes faces. She does. And so, very colorful and beautiful and bright. And so she designed. This original artwork that we printed on our Sherpa fleece.

[00:44:30] Yeah. So people like that, you know, like that are, and women, like, we like, to your point, I don't know. I've worked in fashion my whole career and like have worked with very few men, and the men that I've worked with have been gay and fabulous. And so, you know, Ijust, I just feel like that female energy, I.

[00:44:58] Lindsay: Do you find that you guys look for, number of followers or what you have this expertise, which I think is really interesting for people to hear?

[00:45:16] Lauren: I know. So I think that, like, follower count is like losing, it's. Luster in a way. Like, yeah. I mean, there's more to look at when you're looking at someone's account and what they're doing and their community of people and their reach.

[00:45:53] realness that I think that, you know, some, there's, a realness there with these smaller ladies, not, smaller, like, smaller follow followers, that I think, people just really gravitate towards and they listen to t, them and they're really dialed in. So, you know, I think that there's so much more to look for, as we search.

[00:46:35] You know, they're doing what they're doing is craz,y ad, it's scary a little bit as a brand,, 'cause you're like, oh gosh, I hope they never find,u,s like, 'cause what they do is they just like scour the internet for what people are shopping and then they copy it and

[00:46:49] Lauren: The founder says all that. He's like, yeah, we cop. You know, that's what,

[00:46:53] Lauren: Exactly. So, you know, I'm like, let's just stay in our little area, and maybe they'll never find us. But, but I think like in that, this day and age of that, like. You know, faceless brand, like now more than ever, it's like so important to like, stay up in front of your brand and like say who you are because otherwise you're just buying a sweater and like you don't know who made it or where it came from.

[00:47:30] Lindsay: And what you mentioned, mission statement, and I, when you brought it up, I just, I thought, oh yeah, I wanted to, can you share what your mission statement was when you started? And still is?

[00:47:59] So it's all still run by us and owned by us. We're very proud of that, and I hope we can continue to stay like that. You know, like when sometimes I'll think about, like to answer your question earlier, of like what's the future and everything. Like I hope one day that my kids have the option to work for Dudley Stephens.

[00:48:44] They've always modeled some of the stuff since they were babies. And we had a connection with Reese Witherspoon. Team, a woman on our team used to work for Reese, and I hope I'm not speaking out of turn by saying this. Yeah. But, but she said, and, I'm sure this is a common thing, but whenever her daughter or any of her kids would do work for her, she would pay them. And so, that really stuck with me since the kids were babies. I'm like,

[00:49:17] Lauren: like, that was like, yeah, you know what, and, I'm sure everybody. You know, celebrities and anyone who has a brand, like if you're, or if you hire a child model, it's like the same thing, right? So

[00:49:28] Lauren: Whenever we've had our kids at shoots, we pay them, and we let them.

[00:49:51] Do you want me to just? Put your hundred dollars in the account, and he's like, Noo, I wanna go to the Choice store. I'm like, ah. So like, we're getting there, but like, yeah, I don't know. So. There. I, so for future things, as I would just love it if one day we could give them an internship or like a job, I don't know, a job, maybe they could run the company. I don't know. That's a goal.

[00:50:24] Lauren: Yeah. Little things and teach them about entrepreneurship.

[00:50:45] And I think it just opens their world up to like what's possible in a way.

[00:50:58] Lauren: Yes. Oh my gosh. Well, we have so much coming out between now and Christmas, and things are gonna, we have our Black Friday sale going on that's 30% off Sitewide.

[00:51:39] And so I'm excited about all of that, too. So Amazing. Yeah. So loa t's coming up.

[00:51:46] Lauren: Yes.

[00:51:47] Lauren: Yes.

[00:51:52] Lauren: Yes. And like we'll have to coordinate who's wearing what. You know, like we're like, okay, you're wearing that, you're wearing that, and then some.

[00:51:59] Lauren: Yeah, sometimes we don't care, and we'll just show we're just wearing. Sometimes we'll wear the same thing, but then, like some, if we're going somewhere, we're like going out, we have to like coordinate. So, but yeah, we all wear it. All of the men wear our pullover and our vests like constantly, and we actually have a really great corporate.

[00:52:40] And they put their bank logo on all of our turtlenecks, and men's vests too. So, if anyone's listening, it means custom corporate gear that's female-founded. We are your people. We have a great program.

[00:52:57] Lauren: Oh my God.

[00:53:01] Lauren: Yes. Yes. Yeah. So if your listeners reach out to us, 'cause we have a great setup for that. I love it. All right,

[00:53:11] Lauren: Thank you, you too.

[00:53:18] I, I actually took so much from that in terms of like the key concepts of the business plan, really having an idea. Oftentimes, that's why I asked her about, like, if you don't have a dad who's a mentor like that, what can you do? Because I think figuring out those steps can be really intimidating.

[00:53:55] So anyway, thank you, Lauren, for coming on the show. As I said, I am a massive fan of Dudley Stephens, and I think that you should go to their website, and we will include the links in our show notes for where you can find them. But yeah, as always. We would love to hear what you wanna hear more about here on Things No One Tells You.

[00:54:32] Listeners, we would love to grow this community. We are so grateful that you're a part of it. See you next time.