The central theme of this podcast episode revolves around the affirmation of the existence of a body in the afterlife, a notion that is often fraught with existential uncertainty among individuals grappling with the concept of death. I elucidate the idea that our loved ones, who have transcended, retain a form that allows them to interact with the living, thereby providing solace and evidence of their continued presence. Grief is acknowledged as a universal experience, and I emphasize the importance of understanding and accepting our emotions to navigate this arduous journey. Through the exploration of the "Pillars of Grief," we delve into the profound connections that persist beyond the veil of mortality, reinforced by both experiential evidence and anecdotal accounts of those who have encountered their loved ones posthumously. I invite listeners to join us in this exploration, as we seek to uncover the truths surrounding life, death, and the enduring bonds of love that defy the boundaries of existence.

The narrative unfolds a compelling examination of the intersection between grief and the metaphysical understanding of existence beyond physical life. It is articulated that the fear of losing one's identity upon death is fundamentally unfounded, as numerous accounts from both spiritual practitioners and those nearing the end of life indicate a persistence of selfhood. The speaker elucidates the concept of the 'perispirit', an energetic double that mirrors our physical form, thereby affirming that individuals possess a recognizable essence even after transcending the physical realm. This assertion is fortified by references to holistic healing practices and scientific explorations into the nature of consciousness, which highlight the energetic composition of all beings. The episode serves as a poignant reminder that grief can be navigated with the understanding that our departed loved ones continue to exist in a form that allows for connection and recognition. By embracing this perspective, individuals may find solace and meaning in their grief, fostering a path toward acceptance and celebration of the lives that have touched their own.

Takeaways:

• The concept of grief encompasses a natural process that everyone experiences at some stage.
• Acceptance of grief does not equate to forgetting the loss of a loved one.
• Loved ones in the afterlife are often reported to have a recognizable energy form.
• Experiences of terminal lucidity reveal that those nearing death often see familiar spirits.
• Grief can be a profound and isolating journey, yet it is essential to seek support.
• The evidence presented suggests that we maintain a body in the afterlife, contrary to common fears.

Links referenced in this episode:

• jockbrocas.com/grief-group

There's been many occasions where loved ones have come through and confirmed that they have a body and that they can interact.

And I've had loved ones coming through and say and give evidence that they were around their loved one and did something to make them feel maybe a touch or moved something in the home and identifying that they could do that because they had a form, they had an energetic form.

They could interact with the energy in the atmosphere and the energy in the environment, but that they had a very realistic form.

Grief is a natural part of life and we all experience it at some point by becoming aware of our emotions in the process of grief, we can begin to accept and move through our pain.

Acceptance doesn't mean that we forget or stop feeling the loss, but it allows us to come to terms with it.

And finally, we can choose to honor our loved ones by celebrating their life and finding meaning in our grief.

Join me as we explore these Pillars of Grief and how they can help us navigate the journey of grief.

We will explore this journey together and you will hear from experiencers, experts and researchers.

I'm Jock Brokis, and this is the Pillars of Grief.

Well, good evening, my friends, or wherever you are in the world, whichever time zone that you're listening to this.

This is the Pillars of Grief.

And if you haven't been here before, then my name is Jock.

I am the host and the founder of the Pillars of Grief community.

And you can read more.

I'm not going to go into all of my bios and, you know, but suffice to say that I'm a professional medium, have been for well over two decades involved in consciousness research and academic research.

And today, as promised, I made a little announcement in my last video that I was going to start a series.

And this series would be series questions that were asked not only by my community members, but by people who write into me through my website or write into me through Instagram or YouTube where they connect with me all about the afterlife and all about death and dying and what to expect in the afterlife and some of the greatest questions that may even cause kind of existential distress or shall we say, ontological shock, maybe because of your experiences.

And so today I'm kind of, I want to jump into one of the first questions, one of the most important questions, and I'm going to go into it in a little bit of detail, but obviously to know that there is stay at the end because I'll let you know about something else, something that's coming up that will take everything so much more Deeper.

So I want to kind of start today to talk about the question that I get often, actually probably every week, is, do we have a body in the afterlife?

Do we have a body?

Because there's something frightening about thinking when we pass over, we just become this ethereal ball of light, or we maybe dissipate into nothing, into this vast nothingness, and that we don't, we lose our form and we don't have any memory.

And so all these questions can cause a lot of distress.

And some people will their ontology, they have some kind of security in their belief system, as are their experiences that are fundamentally rooted in the material world.

You know, you, you kind of wake up during the day, you look out the window and you know, you can perceive things and you, you, you can experience things.

And, and you're, you have your, your, your ontology is quite secure.

You kind of, your, your meaning is there.

You understand it a little bit.

You know, you understand life because that's what you experience at the time.

You see the sunshine, or you see an animal, a bird or something flying down, or you just see people walking past your window or when you're out shopping.

So there's a kind of security in what you're experiencing.

But then this question about our loved ones pass over.

I get so many questions where the individual will be like, well, are they still around me?

Do they still have a body?

And then, then that causes them to ask more questions, but will I still have a body?

Will I still have limbs?

And how will I be able to recognize my loved ones?

All these questions, all of these things we're going to go into over the coming months.

But for today, I want to kind of deal with this whole idea of whether you have a body or not.

And I can categorically, I mean, this is to bring some kind of context into it.

Yes, you do, absolutely.

How do I know this?

Right.

Well, it's not because there's any scientific proof of that, but there is evidence.

And there's experiential evidence that I like to call there's lived experience, but there's also experiential evidence.

There's evidence from mediumship, from communications, and there's also this history, if you like, from, say, Alan Kardec, who talked about the perispirit.

What does that mean?

Well, if any of you have been interested in healing or any kind of holistic life, you hear a great deal about the chakras, the energy vortices, and then you hear about the energy body.

You know, often what is depicted you'll see.

And I'll put one on the screen here.

You'll see an auric field, an auric body.

Alan Kardec would determine that to be what's called the perispirit.

And it's like a carbon copy of what your physical form is like.

And when we look at.

When we study things or we read any books, or even if you see some of these spiritual cards, you know, like card decks, you'll see images of a light body.

And then you'll see chakras.

You'll see seven chakras that kind of depict these energy centers.

That kind of gives you a little bit of comfort because we're all made up of energy, right?

And so that what you're seeing, that peri spirit, as Alan Kardec would say.

And also there's been research.

NASA's done research.

A lot of scientists have done research.

Dr. Barbara Brennan talked about the energy body.

There's been a great deal of research into energy fields.

Kirlian photography.

I'm doing this off top of my head, so don't quote me on that.

I could be wrong.

And I think I wrote about it in Powers of the Sixth Sense, my book, where they were able to identify energy, energetic patterns, auric fields, energy fields around a living organism.

And that exists whether it's animate or inanimate, really.

Right.

So when we think about it, we are really fundamentally broken down to energy.

We're just energy, which.

I don't know if I've mentioned this story before, but it reminds me a story.

Years ago when I was teaching in my dojo, in my martial arts dojo, I had a student and I was running a kind of psychic, intuitive aspect within the dojo, teaching a workshop on this.

And I was explaining the whole, you know, rudimentary elements of energy and atoms and molecules, and how if we looked at something that was solid and essentially we'd break it down to its constituent molecules and atoms and et cetera, et cetera.

And so almost like it's an illusion, solidity was an illusion because of the way we perceived it.

And this young student was absolutely fascinated, but unbeknownst to me, decided to go home and sit at the dinner table with his family and say, his dad, you know, dad, do you realize that table's not there anymore?

They don't exist.

And his dad was absolutely flabbergasted and thought, my God, what is this?

What is this?

Teacher what is this martial arts guy teaching?

My son and I turned up at the Tojo to ask me questions and luckily he took the funny side of it.

But it just goes to show you that if you don't understand things, we can make judgments, we can have preconceptions, and our assumptions create a lot of illusions and things in our minds as well.

But one of the greatest fear is to think that when we go over that we don't have anything.

But there's a great deal of research that's going on at the moment as well in something called terminal lucidity.

And this is where loved ones that are getting ready to pass over become lucid before they pass.

And so we have an element of evidence there that, that when our loved ones, for instance, when my granddad was ready to pass over, he could see loved ones that were in the room with them.

And we have people that can describe their loved ones.

They come through and they are visual to them, to the loved one who's getting ready to cross over the veil.

And they can see them in the form that they are, albeit a bit younger.

They can see them, they know them, they have a recognition.

They have an energetic pattern about them.

They have an energetic recognition.

So they know immediately it's their loved ones.

And so when they see them, they see them in their form, the form that they knew that they had when they were on the earth plane.

And they often talk about this if they're, you know, they come back or it's maybe it's experiences because they're getting ready to pass over and not.

It doesn't necessarily mean that when a loved one's ready to go that they're only going to see them within a moment before they pass over.

Because as many people see their loved ones, that if you've got a loved one.

In fact, I went to the, I went to.

Oftentimes I go to the bedside of people who are getting ready to pass over and die.

And they often tell me about their loved ones and their experiences that they see, that they visually see objectively, not subjectively in their mind, objectively, they see them and they tell me that, you know, their loved ones are in full form, that they look as if they've got a body, albeit there's a translucence, there's a likeness about it.

And I'll talk about that a little bit in a moment.

I talk about my own near death experience.

But so loved ones will, they'll.

They'll kind of tell you what they've seen or even what they've seen and sometimes, and this is, there's any nurses out there that listen to, you know what I'm talking about.

Because if you're a care nurse and you've worked in a geriatric unit, I worked in a geriatric unit when I was very young.

I went to college and I did my en nurse before I joined the army.

And I would often be with people that were, you know, getting ready to pass over, that were on their, you know, they were terminal, they were, they were dying and they would claim things that they were experiencing.

Of course I wasn't as versed as I am now then I didn't know.

And I was pretty religious because I had the Catholic upbringing and obviously I was in junior into spiritual retreats in junior seminary from a young age and was looking at taking holy orders.

So I didn't understand the psychic mediumistic world, so to speak, and the intricacies of heavenly or beatric visions.

And I only understood it from a Catholicism point of view.

And so when you have somebody telling you about these experiences, you can put it down to maybe they don't understand.

They're getting ready, they're hallucinating, but there's a pattern.

This happens regularly.

It's too regular for it just to be a one off hallucination that someone has.

So many people that were getting ready to cross over would, would say, would, would actually ex, you know, explain what they were seeing.

And that's very important.

Right?

So you take about, you think about that then.

So there's experiences from loved ones that are getting ready to pass over and if you've ever worried about it and you've been in a hospital room with your loved one as they're getting ready to pass, you know that they often look up and see things.

They're starting to cross the veil, they're getting ready, they see the other side.

Now in the same token as my work as a professional medium, I've given, as you can imagine, many, many, many, many sittings, many private settings, one to one or even group sittings, families and even audiences and churches and things.

And there's been many occasions that in the, the, in me doing my, in my field of work and doing that vacation and sharing the knowledge that I'm getting, sharing the, the connection that I'm getting from the other side, there's been many occasions where loved ones have come through and, and confirmed that they are in, they have a body and that they can interact.

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I've even had.

I've had loved ones coming through and say and give evidence that they were around their loved one and did something to make them feel maybe a touch or moved something in the home and identifying that they could do that because they had a form.

They had an energetic form.

They could interact with the energy in the atmosphere and the energy and the environment, but they had a very realistic form, right?

So the idea that I want you to try and get this out of your head so that you don't worry yourself too much that you're just going to go into a nothingness or that you're going to roll about the universe in a ball of light with no memory, no nothing and no body, and that's it.

That's not true.

In the same, in the same token, a lot of very old texts, right?

If we talk about, I'm not going to go into any religion.

I don't want to do that.

But in indigenous writings and indigenous folklore or in religious texts, I'm not going to mention any particular religion, we have examples where there are visions of apparitions of full bodies.

Now, we often then see in parapsychology, when we try to.

When we investigate parapsychologically, when we investigate hauntings or potential interactions with spirits or apparitions, then what is reported is, what is seen is full bodies, right?

As they were back in the day.

And sometimes we will.

Sometimes that then becomes part of.

It's not evidence because not part of psychology, but it's the experience of the phenomena, anomalous phenomena that the person has witnessed that becomes a data point, right?

And so we have so many data points with so many hauntings that tell us that there is a form, right?

There's no such thing as just formlessness.

And that's.

You just go into formlessness from formlessness.

We became form and we're an energetic partner in that form.

And again, I want to go back to this whole idea.

If you think about the peri Spirit, this unique energy Body, right, this spirit body.

And this is why we call it in a lot of texts and even a lot of, I don't like to get into new age and native ad fantasies type stuff.

But when we talk about the spirit body, we're talking about a doppelganger, basically, we're talking about an exact image and likeness of what your body, what you are right now.

And I want to go through when I had my near death experience, I was also witness to having a body.

When we had the car accident and I kind of had my experience, I recognized I still had a body.

It was very real, there was no difference.

And in a lot of near death experiences with people who have crossed over, they all report that they had a form, they had a body, that they still existed in many, many, shall we say, group seances and things way back in the past that again, that was confirmed that there was a spirit body.

So the reality is that yes, we do have a body in the afterlife.

Now there's a lot of other questions that go into this, right, because it would be, okay, how does the body manipulate things or how are we able to feel things or is there memory?

And that is many, many other questions that we're going into.

So there's so much more to come about this, which leads me on to.

While I'm just kind of going over this first question, I will be going to this in a much, much, much deeper way in a course that I'm developing that will be in my community.

And that course will be very, very extensive and will cover almost everything that you need to, you need to know that'll be coming soon.

And the only way that you'll be able to get into that course when the time is right is to.

Is in our community.

And of course, the community is not just for anyone.

It's for people that are grieving, is for people that have lost loved ones, that want to learn a little bit more and get that comfort.

So if you.

And here's the other thing.

While I go through these questions on these episodes that I'm just kind of going over and going into it, you must understand that when I go into it in depth, there's going to be evidence, there's going to be, you know, parapsychology, there's going to be science, there's going to be a lot for you to be able to, for you to take that understanding that away and that knowledge and come to your own conclusions and, you know, be your own researcher into things as well.

So I want to let you know that definitely 100% that we do have a body.

There's been so much phenomenological experience, if you like, there's so much lived experience that has been shared that it's undeniable, really.

Even though there's maybe not empirical evidence, there is a potential to bridge that, that lived experience, to prove existence, to prove this.

And we know this from lots and lots of readings that we've done where loved ones have come through and confirmed that they have a body.

I was once listening to a transcript of it and it was a spirit on the other side that had had a lot of shock, had a great deal of shock because they could still see and they could still feel and they could still touch.

They had a body, they looked down and they had legs, they had arms and things like that.

And here's the interesting thing.

When I talk about the limbs, I want to kind of go on to this phantom limb syndrome, right?

I don't know what the fancy name is, but I had a student in my dojo who was a veteran and I used to teach, not only veterans, but I used to teach in the Air Force establishment and army barracks.

I used to teach my classes in there.

And I had a soldier who had lost his leg in a conflict.

And we often used to talk about how he would feel that that phantom limb was there, that he would feel that even though his leg had gone from literally above the knee, he still felt he had that.

And he could almost tell me, he would tell me that he would feel pain sometimes as if it was there.

And so whilst that's not empirical, really, it does beg the mind to think that his energy body is him, it's his essence, and that he could still feel that realistically.

So even if you don't want to take this whole idea of a medium, mystic evidence or something like that, if you think about amputees that still feel their limbs, it makes you think, well, maybe, yeah, that energy body's probably right, because how else would they not feel it?

I mean, you could have so many arguments in psychology and whether that was an illusion or a hallucination, but at the end of the day, it's very real to them.

It's a lived experience.

You can't deny someone's experience.

We can only take it as a data point.

And that's what I want to explain is that we have so many data points that it points the direction.

It points that, yeah, this is the right direction to go.

There's something in this, right?

So again, from a near death experience that I've had and a lot of other people have had.

We know we have a body from readings and sittings that I've done and many others have done, and spirit comes through and actually confirms that they've got a body, but also gives evidence on how they've interacted in this material world and how they've interacted with their loved ones again suggests yet they've got a body, Right?

And then this whole idea of we look into the research on energy bodies and holistic healing in those fields as well, and we look at writings and writings from the past and even Frederick Myers, who was one of the founders of the spr, there's a lot that they can say from his research and information that came through and other researchers way back in the past, which I'm going to go into a lot deeper within that course.

So if you're out there and you're panicking and you think there's, I don't have a body, there's no way.

It just seems so unreal.

And when I go and you don't exist and maybe you're worried about that, maybe it's causing you some anxiety and you maybe even get into spiritual crisis.

Now I want to also go into, and I'll do this more in my court because it's so important, my colleague, Dr. Pascal Michael, whom I'm doing research with for my.

With my dissertation work into Grief, we're also going to be diving into psychedelics.

And there's a lot of people that have psychedelic experiences that witness they have a body and that witness what they see.

You know, the experiences that they have that open up, which obviously can cause, you know, an ontological shift in their own.

On their own existence in this material world and in this universal consciousness or this massive paradigm that has just changed for them.

There's elements there, but again, that's something we're going to go into much deeper later on.

But I want you to take away from this, that, from my experiences, from all the readings and things that have done.

I'll tell you, I'm waffling on.

I don't mean to waffle on, but we did a church service years and years and years and years ago in Scotland.

I remember the connection that was coming through.

The spirit on the other side had basically given evidence that he was with his, you know, he was in his wife's life still and that he had the touch that she had felt.

He'd touched her not in a sexual way or anything else, but in her limbs.

She was so shocked.

And she screamed out and she says, well, that would have been the first.

That would have been the first touch he gave me for years before he even passed.

So it kind of, it kind of tells you that there's that interaction there.

And again, you know, think about this as well.

There's still, there's a comedic side to it, that they still have a sense of humor.

So, ladies and gentlemen, you still have a body.

You're not going to disappear in the vast nothingness and float around the universe like a little blob of energy.

That's not true.

And I'm going to go deeper into a lot more questions than this.

And if you have questions and it's not on my list, you won't know that because you don't see the list.

But you can send your questions into me from my website, jobbrokers.com I'm putting a little widget up there for this series in particular where you'll be able to ask those questions.

And there's a lot more that I'm coming out with.

Have I said every two weeks I'm going to be answering a question.

Questions have been sent in to me from my listeners, from my community and people that I've read for over the years as well that are going to be sending in their questions.

So, guys, thank you for joining me tonight.

And if you're listening to this in a time, I love it.

Make sure that you subscribe and share this with a friend.

This also helps us to get this information out to those people who are suffering that do need a little bit of help and little bit of knowledge there to help them make their own decisions.

Join me again for the next questions.

Keep them coming in for everybody that's out there.

Just keep these questions coming in.

And if you want to know anything more about this, just remember you can join my community.

If you're grieving and you've lost a loved one and you even want to get involved in some of the research that I'm doing, then you'll find that on the links below or on my website, dropbrokers.com and you can then connect with me in there as well.

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Look out for it.

This is just an overview.

Everything is going to get answered much, much deeper in a very, very long course that you can take in your own time.

That's going to help educate you all about these questions, all about these things over there.

You might know a lot, but then you might learn something completely new that might change and transform your life in a good way.

Guys, thank you for joining me.

This is Jock, this is Pillars of Grief.

Do we have a body in the afterlife?

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