In this episode, we wrap up our recap and review of the assigned chapters before the conversation opens up into one of the bigger ideas underneath the story: how werewolves are used as a metaphor for stigma, exclusion, and fear of the “other.” We dig into the way the wizarding world treats people with certain identities as dangerous or unworthy, and how that connects to larger real-world systems of discrimination.
Along the way, we talk about guilt by association, the long-term consequences of social labeling, and how hard it can be for people to fully reenter society once they’ve been marked or pushed aside. We also connect those themes to Lupin and the broader treatment of werewolves in the series, looking at how fantasy can reflect real-world prejudice in ways that hit harder than they first appear.
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Speaker B:Welcome to justice for Dean Thomas, a podcast to find justice for the characters and things found in the wizarding world. But from our perspective. I'm your host, Kevin G. And I'm here with cj, Shantay, and Natasha. What is going on, guys?
Speaker A:Hello. What up, Kev?
Speaker B:What's going on, guys? What's going on? Okay, before we get started, as always, you can find us on all social media platforms at justice for DT Pod.
You can find us also on all your the places you can find podcasts. And please like and subscribe because it helps gets our show out there. Guys. This is fun. I'm loving this book as always. It's always a great read.
Things are always popping around here. Last time we got some stories about the beginning of school, we saw some arithmetic. You know, I'm saying we saw some astrology. What's it called?
Speaker A:Nation divination. Yeah, Muggles call it astrology.
Speaker B:We got Pansy Parkinson doing. Guys, I'm excited, man. I'm just. I just love this book so much.
Speaker A:I can tell, Kev, you have not been this excited for any of the books so far.
Speaker B:Other two books suck. Sorcerer doesn't suck. Sorcerers doesn't suck. Chamber does suck.
Speaker C:Are the books worse than Neville is at magic?
Speaker A:No. That's fair. That's very. That's a very hard line to fall under.
Speaker B:Yeah. Because Neville's pretty bad at this stuff. Can you imagine if, like, Neville was the one that was chosen?
Speaker A:He would have died.
Speaker D:There is no book.
Speaker C:Well, that's the thing. Voldemort chose Harry because whoever he chose to go after, he made him his equal.
Speaker A:Well, Voldemort chose Harry because he saw Neville was like, nah, not this one.
Speaker B:Yeah, because I don't know that Neville is going to be able to, like, be better at magic.
Speaker A:No. And when you think about it, by the time Voldemort would have gone after him, were his parents already tortured by Lestrange by then?
So who would have given up their life in for with mother's love to protect him?
Speaker B:He would have succeeded.
Speaker C:Grandma.
Speaker A:Huh? Grandma. His grandma would not have done that. No.
Speaker D:Maybe his grandma because he hadn't been a dud yet. You know, so she might have still been with the shits.
Speaker C:Remember, they thought Neville was a squib.
Speaker A:Yeah, they did think Neville was a squib.
Speaker B:Would he have just succeeded with the. With the goal?
Speaker A:Yeah, I think he would have succeeded. Yeah.
Speaker C:Neville's gonna get it. Never gonna get it.
Speaker A:With the Potter still alive and with, you know, there. There was A possibility for them to kind of get some order of the phoenix action going.
But with like, when all that stuff went down, it kind of blew apart the whole thing. So this is true.
Speaker B:It changes the course of history. Shout out to Trelawney. You know what I'm saying? Got one thing right. One time at least you got two things right. Right. She ended up getting two.
Speaker A:Yeah, she got two things right, too.
Speaker C:I don't know, we see her get some stuff right in this. In this set of chapters.
Speaker A:With Trelawney being a mentalist or did she use her skills?
Speaker B:We're going to talk about this up in this. In this next couple chapters. She got that perfectly right for. I think for Pansy.
She said that there was a thing she was dreading on that date and sure, Lavender.
Speaker A:It was lavender.
Speaker D:It didn't happen on that date, though. That's the cold part.
Speaker A:It was. Yeah. As Hermione points out, it didn't happen on that date. It happened days before. She just found out about it on that day, you know.
Speaker D:And five points to Gryffindor for goddamn Hermione with the. It didn't happen today, though.
Speaker B:Listen, five points. Gryffindor let Snape get involved. Five points away from Gryffindor for nothing.
Speaker A:That was Hermione and Lavender's preview to their. Their battle match again for Ron. Like, this was like a warm up. Now we get to see. This is how the rivalry gets started.
Speaker C:So you think their beef started right here. It all takes back to this.
Speaker A:It all traces back to this. And then the Ron thing comes in and Hermione is like, not this again. Like, nah. This is where it starts when she.
Speaker B:Fights Lavender for Ron. They pauses when they get into a fight and say, I bet you're wondering how I got here. Then it's going to reign back to this. The fight in this book.
Speaker D:That little background you.
Speaker B:That's horrible. I was going to take it back to this with her being in divination.
Speaker D:Her in a headlock like she was in the.
Speaker B:She wonder how I got. Go all the way back to what? What's the fai. Who was that in the headlock?
Speaker A:Millicent Bul Road.
Speaker B:Yeah. Go all the way back. Go all the way back to Milson has her in the headline. She Too far, too far. Come back. Come back.
Speaker A:Too far, too far. That's. That's another be. That's another beast story for another day.
Speaker B:You're like. So you go all the way back, you see Mil there, then you like go forward, then you see her As a cat, you're, like, not there either.
Keep going, keep going. Right there. Yeah. This is where we're gonna start.
This is where in a certain Divination and sitting there with Trelawney, I think, she states about the date. It'll be great. That would be Hermione's story.
Speaker A:Oh, yes.
Speaker B:This chapter, we get these chapters. We get some everything. We get some hogs.
Speaker C:Me.
Speaker B:We get some Marauder's Map. I feel like we get a lot of the stuff that, like, sets up.
Speaker A:Start building legends.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:Oh, the light. Okay, I like that.
Speaker C:Well, I mean, they start building legend in book two. You just don't know it yet.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker B:Which doesn't count, I don't think.
Speaker A:Are we going back to this? Kev, we already talked about this.
Speaker C:No, no, no.
Speaker B:The reason it doesn't. The reason it doesn't count, as we were talking about the building, the legend, is that this stuff is brought up right here.
Then we see it throughout the stuff. Stuff definitely counts. But I'm talking about in the building of the legend.
As you see, like, the Marauders map is going to be, like, a very useful tool immediately throughout this. This book, the next book and into the. Into the fifth. You know, it's the Marauders map.
Speaker C:I mean, it's important in book seven,.
Speaker B:It continues on through. Whereas. Whereas the stuff that we get of the Legends from book two we don't know about until, like, book six.
So the legend, though, like, the Marauders,.
Speaker D:The exposition in book two is so necessary because now we have, like, you know, foundation. Look at Shanti's face.
Speaker A:Oh, Natasha, Natasha, Natasha, let me be a fan.
Speaker B:Listen, this is. This stuff right here is just. This is how I got hooked, right? This was the book. These kind of chapters. This is where I was like, what's gonna happen?
What's happening next?
Speaker A:This is also when they start heading toward adulthood. Like, these are very adult themes that we're discussing here, like mass murder, you, Betrayal. Like, this is. This is where we're like. Okay.
Okay, Harry. Okay. Like, this is when it starts stepping towards the dark side.
Speaker C:This is when they hit puberty.
Speaker A:Yes. You got pimples and plot twists.
Speaker D:I feel like that happens in the next book.
Speaker B:They don't actually hit puberty until book five, but.
Speaker C:And a lot of teen angst.
Speaker D:Listen, never say five. I wanted to just drown here. Stop crying.
Speaker A:Jesus.
Speaker B:You had a rough time.
Speaker A:Book five was annoying. He was annoying. Book six, he was kind of annoying, too.
Speaker B:But in book five, I mean, the man did just see somebody die? Like.
Speaker A:Yeah, that was a thing.
Speaker C:Because he was angry. He was angry at the beginning.
Speaker B:How many people have died in front of ucj?
Speaker C:More than you think.
Speaker A:Same. That's a hard knock life. It's a hard knock life.
Speaker C:Give you a number. 50 Something.
Speaker B:Ah, that's different. That's different. That's different.
Speaker C:Don't ask questions. Don't ask questions you don't want the answer to.
Speaker B:I mean, I was there too. I was there too. I was there too. I was there too.
Speaker A:But that's up, guys.
Speaker B:That was. That was different. You're right.
Speaker A:That step away from.
Speaker C:But what I'm saying is me and Kevin can see thes.
Speaker A:I. Yeah, y' all can see the.
Speaker B:We can't see the. We can see the sh. Let's get. Let's. Let's not all. Anymore. Let's get into. Starting here. Chapter eight. Let's get into it.
Speaker A:Let's get it. So chapter eight is the Flight of the Fat Lady. I would like to point out that this title.
This title refers to like the last two lines of the book, but whatever. Of this. The chapter. But whatever. Anyways, Flight of the Fat Lady. We're gonna check in on how the classes are going. Everybody's loving Dada.
Lupin's the best professor they've ever had. They're getting actual practical knowledge. They can use everything you would want in a class. The hate potions, of course.
And Snape's being an even more so than usual. He heard about being dressed up as Neville's grandma in the Boggart lesson and so now he hates everybody even more than he usually does.
Divination also sucks. And it's weird. Harry hates that. Every time he goes there, Trelawney looks at him like, oh, Barbie. And you know, the girls are getting into it.
Parvati and Lavender are like, they're loving Trey Lonnie. They think they're psychics. They. They aren't.
They also hate care of magical creatures, unfortunately, because Hagrid's confidence is shot after Draco's, so now he only does boring lessons. So no one's really enjoying it. Poor Hagrid. I don't know why they don't tell Hagrid, hey, can you liven it up a little bit? Flobber worms again.
But whatever.
Speaker B:I mean, you still have a book that like, you have to like, you have to caress the spine and we still over here just working with some worms, like, it don't make sense to me. I get the Hippogriff was a Little much.
Speaker A:I doubt they're caressing many spines of that book to take care of flobber worms. Well, that's.
Speaker C:The flower worms don't have no spines.
Speaker B:No, no, but the book does. The thing that's just crazy to me is that.
Speaker C:We.
Speaker B:We had one rough class and I don't know, like, how could you reprimand it? Didn't feel like, probably.
Speaker A:Well, knowing how litigious the Malfoys are and knowing what we know about what happens later, he probably got to talking to of some kind. Not from Dumbledore, of course, but from somebody. He probably got a letter from the governors or something going, hey, watch it.
Speaker C:I mean, Hagrid's super tough on himself, too. He was probably crying and being upset. Like, you see him drinking himself stupid.
Speaker B:True.
Speaker A:Well, he does that anyway.
Speaker C:But that's Hagrid.
Speaker B:That's a nightly thing. Yeah, but it's just. It's just. I mean, the class sucks now and it's a shame. It's a shame.
Speaker A:And it was his first lesson. So, like, what do you do? It's kind of hard to come back from that. But Harry's feeling better as time goes on because Quidditch is coming.
It's Wood's seventh year. Wood is serious now. He really wants that cup. He's giving them a pep talk. He's trying to be inspirational.
He's, like, doing the Rocky or whatever and he's like, hey, we're gonna be working harder than we ever have to make sure we beat Slytherin in our first match. So they're staying out evenings and they're doing all these extra practices and Harry's loving it because he loves Quidd.
Until we head into the beginning of October and we get the first notice that there's going to be the Hogsmeade trip. Now, remember, Harry kind of blew up Dursley's sister. So he did not get the signature to allow him to go to Hogsmeade.
So everyone's all excited and talking about it and he's not feeling good. People are trying to make him feel better about it, but it's not working. It's like when people come up and say, oh, how's me? Not that big a deal.
They just have this great thing and that great thing and this amazing thing and that amazing thing. All these amazing things, but that's it.
Speaker B:People don't know how to calm it down. They're like, oh, man, it sucks. I mean, we just get like a ton of candy and, like, get free. Reign of a City. I mean, but like, you know, the.
Sometimes you get. Sometimes you get like a bad bean, I guess. I don't know.
Speaker C:This would be like somebody telling you Disneyland sucks.
Speaker A:You didn't miss much. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:You didn't miss.
Speaker C:It's fine, it's whatever, fine.
Speaker A:It's Disneyland. I mean, yeah, we were happiest to have this place on Earth, but that's it. That's all.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So Ron's like, hey, talk to McGonagall. Maybe she'll let you go. And Hermione's like, she ain't gonna let him go. Don't even worry about it.
So they bring up also the fact that Sirius Black has been seen around and he probably shouldn't be leaving the grounds anytime soon because this is where he's protected. But it's been a. Ron feels that they're gonna catch him soon.
And this is when I'm like, but Ron, this man has been escaped for months at this point because he, he escaped a week after Harry's birthday was when Harry left. So that's early August. This is now almost October. It's been like two months this man's been escaped.
What makes you think all of a sudden they're gonna catch him? Like, come on round, join us, join us here in reality, not just escape,.
Speaker B:Escape from a maximum security prison. And we have the guards out here looking for him and he ain't been caught too much like it. It's.
We're not just relying on eyewitness sightings and then we're calling the police out. The police out here on the grounds looking every day, they can't find a dude. Why do we think he's gonna be caught at all?
Speaker A:What you so confident about, Ron? It don't make no sense. So they're up there talking in the. And just at this moment, Crook Shanks comes sauntering in, he has a spider in his mouth.
He pops right on Hermione's lap and he starts slowly chewing. You know, one of those like, you know, sarcastic kind of chew like so graves on it. So of course Ron's like, get him away.
Speaker B:I got Scabbers in the bag. And the moment Crook Chase is there, you got him in the bag. Crookshank says, bet. And I'm glad to know he in the bag.
Speaker A:And he go, right, for letting me.
Speaker B:Know for the bag.
Speaker A:Yeah. So yeah, Ron says, get him out of here. Crookshanks is in my bag. Hermione is like, she. He ain't doing nothing.
And then of course Crook Shanks immediately jumps on the bag to get at Scabbers, and of course, all hell breaks loose. It goes crazy. Cook Shanks goes one way, Scabbers tries to go the other. Ron's pissed off.
They finally get a hold of Crookshanks, and Ron has to, like, grab Scabbers out from under a little wardrobe. And he's just like, keep the damn cat away from my mouse. Or rat. It's a rat. Whatever.
So all these shenanigans, that makes Ron and Hermione upset with each other for a little bit. But it's okay.
Speaker B:Ron's like, there's so many other rats around here. But listen, you don't have a rat bike. You have a person. That's kind of why. That's why.
Speaker A:Like, he is lasered in onto Scabbers. Like, Crookshanks knows. He knows. Scabbers ain't supposed to be here.
Speaker B:No damn rat is some.
Speaker A:I keep trying to tell y'. All, Come on. Part of me feels like he came in eating the spider to be like, see, Ron, I'm on your side. I'm taking care of the spiders, too.
Speaker B:Gotcha. Where's that rat? Gotcha. You said in the bed bag.
Speaker D:Huh?
Speaker B:He in the bag? Huh?
Speaker A:He's in the bag. Even Ron was like. He heard me say he was in the bag. And Hermione's like, he probably just smelled him. He doesn't speak English.
And Ron's like, that speaks English, that's what.
Speaker B:Next time. Next time, Crook Shade, they'll turn. Gonna turn to Hermione. Say, you damn right.
Speaker C:I mean, crochet is from a magical creature shop. It's entirely possible he speaks English.
Speaker A:I believe that. It just doesn't. It just doesn't want to talk to them.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah. So Crookshank knows what's up. Ron, the next day, is still mad at Hermione. She tries to kind of make amends, but he ain't having none of that.
And they're outside of McG's class. They're heading to Transfiguration. There's a little kerfuffle at the door. Lavender Brown is hysterically in tears because it's October 16th.
So we're mid October at this point again. Yeah, Sirius Black is still at large. Anyways, it's October 16th and she just found out her little bunny Wonnie died.
Speaker B:This is the day. This was the day. Treyloni called it. Trey Lonnie called it. This was the day.
Speaker A:She did. Did she, though? She. She kind of. She kind of said something, but Hermione goes, yeah, but I knew it. I was right about this. She's like, yeah.
Was this an old rabbit? No, it's a new rabbit. So you weren't concerned or worried it's gonna die, right? And she's like, well, no.
And so you couldn't have been fretting this, because it's a new rabbit and you're very shocked about the fact that it's died. And everyone's like, how you try to logic away my pain. And this is when Ron delivers his line. He's like, it's okay.
Lavender Hermite doesn't give a about other people's pets. I was like,.
Speaker B:Here's the thing, though.
Speaker A:Such a good line.
Speaker B:Yeah, sure.
Speaker A:So now Hermione's back mad at Ron, too.
Speaker B:Herm. Hermione is not letting people feel their feelings. You know what I'm saying? She's not. She's not about that life, that logic. But.
Speaker A:But go ahead and pick up those feelings.
Speaker B:I'm with it, though. Lavender's like, I was concerned. And Treylani, who's the new hotness for a couple of them girls, was like, beware this day.
And she's like, here is the day. This is what I need to be beware of.
Speaker A:Hermione pointed out that it didn't happen on that day. It happened before the day. She just got notified on the day.
Speaker C:Yeah.
And like we talked about last time, if you tell me to be beware of this day because something bad is going to happen on this day, like, you're just looking for something to be upset about. Hermione had it right. You just got the letter today. It didn't happen today.
Speaker A:That was the thing. Yeah.
Speaker B:Guys, this is. This is very.
Speaker A:But she was only dreading it because she. Lonnie, told her to dread it. She didn't know what to dread. She just knew she was supposed to dread.
Speaker B:This is. Guys, come on. Come on. June 19th is. Juneteenth is when the slaves were freed. We were freed 18 months before that. Right.
But we celebrate on the day we found out. It's very similar here.
Speaker A:Kevin, Kevin, Kevin. It was actually, like two. Yeah, I guess it is. We'll give you 18 months. I would say it was before that, but go ahead.
Speaker B:But they found out this day. This is the day we celebrate. This is the same thing right here. Rabid died a little bit before, but today's the day we found out.
This is the day I was strutting.
Speaker C:No, it's funny, because those slaves found out. They're like, Free at last. Free at last. And they were like, does somebody want.
Speaker A:To tell them here's the thing and here's the parallel. They didn't find out that day. They knew before.
That was just the day the United States decided to get off their ass and follow through what they said they were going to do.
Speaker D:There's that part, too.
Speaker A:So there is the. The. There's the parallel. It didn't happen on October 16, and it didn't happen on Juneteenth.
That's just when they got off up their ass and decided to do something.
Speaker B:And that's what she found out.
Speaker C:So you're saying this is the owl's fault? The same way that it's the United States fault because it didn't deliver the news in a timely fashion, doing the.
Speaker A:Best it could with what it had. God damn it. I mean. Or we could say it's not the owls. Whoever sent the owl latest fuck.
Just like the United States sent the National Guard latest fuck.
Speaker B:But that's why Trelawney over here said, this is the day you're dreading, because she knew this was the information we delivered. This was the day that she was dreading.
Speaker A:Shouts to Trelawney, always a mentalist. And she knew how to manipulate people into doing what she needed to do to make it seem. Make it appear that she was correct.
Speaker D:So kind of like revisit the Gilderoy Lockhart.
Speaker B:They didn't even revisit Gilderoy Lockhart in his book. Why are we revisiting Gilderoy Lockhart at all?
Speaker A:They did revisit, but they don't name. That's the disrespect they talk about. Previous Dada teacher brought in the damn pixies, and that's the only thing we ever done.
They didn't even name him the disrespect.
Speaker D:But Trelawney does something similar.
Not to the extent of Gilderoy, but she does, you know, finesse and use people's emotions in this to kind of, you know, make it seem like she's bigger than what she is. So in that way, I would. I would definitely draw a parallel between her and Gilderoy.
Speaker A:Yeah, they're both shitty people. She knows that her. Her subject is so imprecise, and she plays on people's emotions to make herself seem like something she's not.
I mean, you're right. Her and Gilderoy are both assholes.
Speaker C:She thinks she's doing good, though.
Speaker A:True.
Speaker D:She doesn't have any, like, mal intent behind it. Unlike Gilderoy is Like, you know, taking people's memories.
Speaker A:I think just like Gilderoy, she's very much aware that she is a fraud. Let's move on. Anyways, so Hermione's still mad at Ron now because he, he delivered that sick burn. She had to go to the hospital wing.
Anyways, So after class Harry decides he's gonna go up and ask McG to go to Hogsman. He's like Ms. McGonagall, you know if you say it that I can go. And she's like, and I ain't gonna say it. You're right, if I said it, it would happen.
But I ain't gonna say it. I ain't gonna say it. You ain't going. It's a no. It's a no for me, dog. You're staying your ass here. So that's pretty much it. He has to stay.
And he's upset that he can't go, that this kind of helps Ron and Hermione get over whatever they're going through and they offer to like go and get him some stuff. Dean Thomas, our boy, you know, he's an artist. He's like, hey, I can forage it for you. You know, I got the stuff skills.
But Harry made the mistake of already letting McGonagall know that his uncle Vernon did not sign his paper. So he's like, nah, it's not going to work. Even Percy tries to cheer him up. But Percy obviously is not good at cheering people up.
So Halloween rolls around and everyone's going to Hogsmeade but Harry Potter. So he says goodbye to his friends and he wanders the the campus. He runs into Malfoy. Of course Malfoy is obsessed with him.
Like he had to go out of his way to say something to Harry like I need. I wish Malfoy. Malfoy needs a little bit of therapy and maybe a hug or two. I don't know. Anyways, so Maloy says something. Then Harry's like, whatever.
He starts walking around. He goes up to. He has to wake up the fat lady to get into the Gryffindor tower. He runs into Colin Creevey.
And you know, Collins being Colin, he's like, I ain't hanging around with you number one. Yeah, Nope, I ain't hanging around you second year so you can stare at my scar. So he leaves.
Then he runs into Filch and Filch is like, you up to trouble. I know you are. Get the hell out of here. So he escapes Filch and finally we've, he gets to Lupin Lupin sees him. He's like, hey, what you doing here?
Why ancient Hogsmeade? And Harry's like, I ain't got no parents. Nobody loves me. I'm not going to Hogs me. So they sit down. Harry finally asks him about the Boggart.
Well, first Lupin brings up the Grim. He's like, yeah, I heard you're gonna die. He's like, oh, you heard that? And Lupin's like, don't worry about it. It's not that big deal.
Harry does not mention the fact that he saw a big black dog on Magnolia Crescent right before he almost got hit by that bus. So this is kind of, you know, Harry being Harry, not telling critical information at the right time. So they brings up the Bogger.
And Lupin's like, oh, I thought you knew why we didn't want you to face it. I mean, what if. Lord, are you showing Lord Voldemort? Like, everyone would freak out. Harry goes, oh, yeah, huh.
Speaker B:That's exactly what I surmised in the last episode. But I was like, very obviously, Lord Voldemort would be the theme that I would think you would look at.
And so for Harry to then go, oh, no, I would have thought of the dimensions.
Speaker A:I forgot him. I forgot about him.
Speaker B:How would anyone know?
Speaker A:No one would think that you're most.
Speaker B:Afraid of isn't the Lord of Darkness that killed your parents that you have had to tussle with at least once. But we know. We know twice.
Speaker A:We know twice, right?
Speaker B:Yeah. And so, like, why would. Why would that not be what you would think of?
So, yeah, man, I'm not trying to scare a whole classroom of kids with Voldemort. Like, it don't make sense.
Speaker A:And Harry's like, oh, yeah, Voldemort. Yeah, he. Yeah, that guy. Not him, though, no. So he. He lets Lupin know. Like, it would have been a Dementor. It wouldn't have been Voldemort.
And Lupin's like, oh, well, then I'm. I'm impressed that you're. What you fear most of all is fear. He's like, very wise choice. This is our Dementor part. Part one.
This made me think the reason he didn't have Hermione go is because he thought her fear might have something to do with the Time Turner, which, as you know, she has to keep her Time Turner a secret. So he probably was like, she's probably worried that she'll up time the timeline, so I can't have her go either. So that. That's what?
I'm starting to think why he didn't let Hermione take her turn either.
Speaker C:Makes sense.
Speaker A:So while they're talking, Snape shows up with a potion which we know is the Wolfsbane because we're getting close to, you know, full moon, which, here's my thing. Full moons happen how many times? Once a month? We are like two months into school. What did he do in September?
Speaker D:He's been the whole time. He just didn't. They didn't go see him at his.
Speaker C:What did Lupin do in September? I would.
So the way that it reads with Lupin being exhausted on the train, I'm assuming he's coming off of a full moon, which means that the full moon was end of August. So then the end of September. Let's just say that full moon was a weekend.
Because from reading up on the Wolfsbane potion, you gotta take the the potion seven consecutive nights prior to transformation for it to hold. If you miss even one night, similar to birth control, it could fail.
Speaker A:Well, Snape let him know he has an entire cauldron full of that potion for him, which is unusually kind for Snape, especially since Snape's been an TO Lupin since he got there, right? Harry's looking at this smoking cup and he's like, don't do it, Professor.
Speaker B:I wouldn't drink it.
Speaker A:He tries to hint to him like, hey, so you know Snape wanted that job you got, right? Like he tried so hard.
Speaker D:I did not take Snape's statement as him being kind. Like I, I guess him making it was kind. But his little hey, I got more for you.
I felt was like a snide ash remark to try to get Harry to hey, Professor Lupin, why does he have a whole cauldron of a potion for you? You know, like what's. I felt like it was an jab.
Speaker A:I disagree with that. I disagree with that at all. At all.
Speaker B:Natasha, it's wild that you thought that Snape would ask a question and then want Harry Potter to even comment on it. He hates this kid. He ain't thinking about this kid for one second.
Speaker D:But no, but what he tries to do and what he does in subsequent chapters is have the kids question about Professor Lupin.
Speaker B:Kids multiple. When the teaching the class, he's trying to out. Yeah, this is just Harry specifically.
Speaker D:Yeah, he's just trying to out loop into everybody. Anybody and everybody.
Speaker A:Even when Snake. No, when Snape comes in with the potion and sees Harry, he like, he's like, what the.
Why is this kid here while I'm giving you Wolfsbane potion, right? I don't.
I definitely don't think Snape was trying to out him or besmirch him at this point with Harry there, I do think, you know, we see later Snape being Snape, and he is trying to be an Then. But you can see the difference. The difference then is it's very like a general, like, whatever.
Like, the kids aren't going to connect the dots unless you're Hermione Granger, right? All the other kids are like, damn, why we got to do all this homework? Hermione's like, interesting. Oh, yeah.
What about that Bogger thing, putting two and two together now. I know, but he. He's doing that to be kind of petty and. And like a tongue in cheek. That's his style.
He's not gonna come out and say, here's your wolfsbane potion. Oh, Harry, here you are. You know, I do feel like this is a rare instance of us seeing Snape's kindness. I don't know if we even call it his humanity.
I think, especially thinking about the fact that him and Lupin were kids together, right? They were at Hogwarts together. They, you know, Lupin was one of Snape's bullies. Let's call it out. That's true.
And Snape was obsessed with finding out what the Marauders were up to all the time. And he had no idea that it was this. That Lupin being a werewolf. So I think it kind of gives them a different perspective.
Speaker B:Was Remus really one of his bullies or was it just James and serious?
Speaker A:He was in the. He was in the crew. When you're being bullied, you're not gonna say, oh, well, this one's the nice one. This one isn't.
No, there's these groups of people, when they come around, I. I am I bullied. I'm experience hurt. So he's not going to differentiate.
Speaker B:He is one of James's little friends. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:He is. I also want to point out, like, at no point has anyone informed Harry that Remus Lupin was one of his father's best friends.
Speaker B:This is what I was saying last episode. This is wild to me.
Speaker A:Ain't nobody brought this up purposefully because then what's your first question gonna be? Oh, you know, my dad. Who else? Who else?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And what are you gonna say? Oh, yeah, serious back. You know, the guy trying to kill you? Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't think the first question is who else? I think the first question is, what was he like?
Speaker A:Tell me everything. Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And how do you do that without including the maniac that just escaped from prison?
Speaker B:You just edit him out of your storytelling.
Speaker C:Nah, I don't think that happens.
Speaker A:Yeah, I don't think that happens. No. So there's all, there's all this stuff going on here, this subtlety.
And I like, I do feel like this is a glimpse in a kind, dist ish side of Snape. Him brewing a whole cauldron full because he knows, like C.J. Informed us, you need to take it seven days in succession.
Which obviously Lupin must not do because as we see later, he ain't showing up to class. But he, he didn't have to take out this time. And as Lupin even pointed out, it's a very complex potion. Not very many people can do it.
And Severus Snape happens to be one of the people, and he's very lucky to have him there. Like, Snape could have been like, yep, you know what? I can brew that potion. But you know what I'm not gonna do? Brew that potion. Figure it out.
Speaker C:So here's the thing. I am 100% sure Dumbledore is making Snape brew the potion because he needs Lupin to have his faculties. He can't have a rabid werewolf running around.
Like, I'm sure they put in the same protocols when Lupin was a student where he's going down into the Shrieking Shack and he's in there for the weekend, but because he's on the Wolfsbane Potion, he at least has his mental faculties. And unfortunately, as we see later in the book, he loses his mental faculties as a werewolf and then goes sideways.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, Lupin chugs it down and doesn't immediately die. And Harry's like, what the. Can't believe you drank that. So Hermione and Ron return from Hogsmeade. They're talking about all the cool stuff they got.
They bring a whole bunch of. Of bribes so Harry won't be mad at them for having a good time. And Harry tells him about, you know, talking to Lupin and Snape, giving him a potion.
Hermione does the scrunchy thing. The. Which is like, okay, Hermione's already figuring it out. And they're like, wait, did he actually drink it? He's like, yeah, he drank that.
They're like, they crazy. So they go down to the feast. They're happy, they're eating it up, having a good time. They're heading back up to the Gryffindor Tower to go in.
There's a traffic jam. They're like, what's going on? We're trying to get in here and go to bed. Oh, yeah, I got the Itis. And what do they see?
The portrait of the fat lady is destroyed. It's ripped to shreds. Pieces of the canvas have sprinkled down. No one can get in because they can't find her.
Dumbledore is there and he's like, okay, what's going on? Then Severus McGonagall and Lupin come up and they're like. He's like, hey, go find the fat lady.
And Peeves is there and he's like, hey, I could tell you what happened. She's fled her pick because Sirius Black attacked her. And I see the Chapter eight.
Speaker B:He just like, says his name and like, oh, serious? Black. Like, y' all didn't. Y' all didn't see him? Yeah, y' all didn't see him come through here.
Speaker A:He says it while sticking his head through his own legs. So. Peeps. He's got peeps.
Speaker B:He's like, it's not that big of a deal. Serious. Oh, y' all seem pressed. My bad.
Speaker A:Life so serious. All right, so we're in Chapter nine, Grim Defeat.
So they make all the students the Gryffindors, the Ravenclaws, the Hufflepuffs and the Slytherin sleep in the great hall. As they search the castle the prefects and the head boy and girl are in charge. Percy is living because he has authority now.
And of course everyone's like, what happened? And of course the Gryffindor's gossip to everybody. So they're all sleeping in the. The ham. The hammock, sleeping bags.
Every so often, a teacher kind of comes to check in on them. And then about halfway through the night, about 1am Dumbledore and Snape come in. They check in with Percy. It's fine. Hey, he's not in here.
We don't think he's still here. But we're gonna have people just sleep here for now. We're not gonna make everybody get all up. So they're sitting around there, they're talking.
Oh, one thing before I get to this. So the Golden Trio are speculating and Hermione goes, this is a one time. I was like, you didn't think this through, Hermione.
She goes, how lucky of him to come on Halloween when everyone wouldn't be out down in the dorm. Like, lucky. You think this man who escaped from prison luckily happened to come in. And like, why didn't she think, huh?
He made sure to come on a night when nobody was up in the tower.
Speaker B:He's. He's pretty. He's pretty clever about how to do this. He knows what he's doing. He knows his movements.
He ain't been evading these guards by himself, you know, like, before being a dummy. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:And so you don't escape from Azkaban on accident.
Speaker B:Correct. And then continue to evade escape, evade capture.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's.
Speaker B:It's. Takes more than that.
Speaker A:Yeah. Don't underestimate serious Black.
Speaker B:I love that the family won't speak, though. I like that the lady won't tell them what happened. She's just.
Speaker A:She is terrified. No, she did say that she wouldn't. We. We learned later she. She wouldn't let him in because he didn't have the password.
And then he flipped the out on her. So we do learn that. So, yeah, they come in. Snape and double don't have a debrief. Percy's there listening in because he's a nosy like the rest of us.
That boy. He deserves to be there, huh? So they found a fat lady. She was hiding in another portrait. She refuses to go back.
They're just gonna have to fix her canvas. She the reason she got all jacked up? Like I said, she refused to let Black in without the password. I mean, that's some good security.
Like, she did her job. You can't even do it on your house. You can't even do it on your house. Right? They can still come in whether they got the password or not.
So they brings up to Dumbledore. Remember we talked before term began?
Dumbledore cuts him down like they're always talking about in the movies, how, you know, he says calmly in A Goblet of Fire. Did you put your name in? But they always skip over the fact that right now Dumbledore is. He's running a tirade. He is pissed off the whole book.
Like Shaft, he's like. Just like cutting off left to right. And he's like, snape, don't you ever bring it up. I don't suspect anybody is helping Sirius Black.
That's all we're gonna talk about. And Snape shuts the up.
Speaker C:You know why? Because he's not keeping tabs on Crook Shakes.
Speaker A:What? A Marauder's map. This is correct. This is correct. So obviously Snape thinks Lupin's helping. Serious.
I still Assert that Dumbledore brought Lupin in case Sirius showed up to be the one person who might appeal to him. Because at this point, we'll find out. They. They think Sirius is crazy. They think all these things.
So he's thinking Lupin might be the one person to get through to Sirius but he does not think that Lupin's helping Sirius.
Speaker D:There's a bit of foreshadowing right there too. When Dumbledore, you know, Percy's like, hey, don't the dementors want to help?
And Dumbledore is like, yeah, but they can't cross the threshold of the castle. So they can't come in the castle.
Speaker B:They can't come on the grounds at all.
Speaker A:Oh, Percy got it too. Because Percy's like, well, the dementors are here. He's like, they ain't coming in here. Not as long as I'm the headmaster. Yeah. Percy's like, first.
He's like, okay, Percy got a little bit too. Everybody's catching it from Dumbledore. Don't. With him. He's on one.
Speaker B:It's that new Dumbledore energy. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:You know what I love?
Speaker B:Big Dumbledore energy.
Speaker A:Big Dumbledore energy, all of that. So they replace the fat lady portrait with, you guessed it, sir Cat again. We met him in the. The last episode.
He's like Hogwarts owned version of Don Quixote. And he's just as ineffective. He keeps changing the password. He keeps challenging people to duels. Everybody hates him. It sucks.
But the fat lady's like, hell, no, I ain't going back. So, I mean, hell, no. Yeah. All the portraits, like, oh, yeah. So you needed someone crazy. Exactly. Like, you know how old this frame is?
This is an antique. I'm going in there.
Speaker D:Poor fat lady. They didn't even give her a name. Justice for the fat lady.
Speaker A:So McGonagall pulls Harry into her office. So obviously Sirius Black got on the grounds. No one knows how or why.
So she pulls Harry in and she's like, I don't think it's a good idea for you to be out playing the Quidditch. And she tries to tell him that Sirius Black is trying to kill him. And he's like, yeah, I already know. I knew this whole time.
A series back's trying to kill me. She's like, oh, okay. Well, you shouldn't go outside and play Quidditch in the evenings. You shouldn't be practicing.
And he's like, mick G, I gotta practice for Quidditch. And she's like, you know, I want that cup as much as anybody, but we gotta think about your safety.
Speaker B:Well, well, well.
Speaker A:I knew it. Just because she want. All of the teachers want the cup, Kevin. They all want it. It's not just McGonagall. It's not just her.
Speaker B:We got a killer on the loose. Harry says, I can't practice for Quidditch. And she says, you know what? We're gonna make sure this happens.
Speaker A:What she said was, we have to think about your safety. Maybe you shouldn't. She saw and recognized his passion, and she did what any good teacher would do. She facilitated his dreams.
Speaker C:Is Hooch on the up? Like, is she on the uptake or is she paying Hooch on the side or is Hooch out there? For the goodness of her, I'm sure.
Speaker A:Giving her a couple of. Couple of Hooch have to do. What else does Madam Hooch have to do? She don't do nothing.
Speaker B:Loves the game.
Speaker A:She loves. She should have been out there supervising in the first place.
Speaker B:So here's. Here's the thing. I got. I got a serious question here. We're in year three. Should we.
I know, I know he was a prodigy, but, like, should we be looking at a different seeker? I mean, let's. Let's be real, right? We. We've won some games. We haven't won the champion. Like, we haven't won the championship.
Speaker A:They should at least get a backup. I mean, he almost dies every year. They need a backup.
Speaker B:We should be. I mean, we gotta go. If she. Look at.
Speaker D:He's the best in a generation, okay?
Speaker B:But if he's not getting the job done, you might need to look at. Train the franchise player, maybe finding a replacement.
Speaker D:Well, they said every game he gets them the stage, but then he just misses a couple, you know, and that.
Speaker B:Listen, C.J. What's the best ability?
Speaker C:Availability?
Speaker B:What do you know?
Speaker A:Did y' all practice that? No.
Speaker C:That's like a common sports saying, the best ability is availability.
Speaker D:Wow. Okay.
Speaker C:It doesn't matter if you're Michael Jordan if you can't get on the court.
Speaker A:And in Harry's defense, most of the time when he's not available, no one else is either. When Harry can't play, nobody can play. So, I mean, last, last. Last year, they got rid of the whole season.
They were like, nope, we're not doing it because Harry can't do it.
Speaker B:He was having a prolific rookie season, and then he missed the most important game of the season. I mean,.
Speaker A:He was almost murdered. Well, he did kill someone and he was almost murdered himself. It was a lot of extenuating circumstances there.
Speaker B:Semantics is what I'm hearing. I'm hearing that he wasn't available for the game and we didn't win the house cup. That's what I'm hearing.
Speaker A:I'm just saying, like, what I'm hearing is Gryffindor needs to expand their bench and they should have a backup for Harry. That's what I'm hearing.
Speaker C:Oliver Wood.
Speaker A:Oliver Wood, as a captain of this team should be thinking more strategically.
Speaker B:This is Oliver's last season. This is his last chance to get that cup.
Speaker A:And he know Harry's unreliable. He should have a backup.
Speaker B:I think that maybe we should just replace Harry altogether with someone that's going to be there. I mean, we got to give them in game.
Speaker A:I don't feel like you and I are saying different things, but either way, Oliver did not do that, did he?
Speaker D:Did you just say we got to give them in game rep? I can't.
Speaker B:You got to get in game reps. You got to get in game reps to find that Stitch. I mean, like, I'm just saying there's something that we need that, that if.
Speaker A:I want to blaming Harry for a mismanagement problem and who is managing this team?
Speaker B:Oh, no, no, no. I'm not blaming her.
And like I said, I said if I'm McGonagall, if I'm Oliver Wood, we know how important this is for both our money and for our prestige. It might be time to make a change. I'm just saying, like, this is. I feel like one of those like radio shock jocks like Colin Coward.
You know what I'm saying? I can skip Bayless. I'm just making saying to say, but I'm like, should we be looking at a change here?
Speaker A:Calling preview on a broom and let's go.
Speaker B:He's looking to because Colin Creevey is going to be available. Cj, weigh in here. What are your thoughts on Harry Potter's availability issues and his, his, his.
Speaker D:Games he just doesn't seem to finish.
Speaker B:He doesn't even start him.
Speaker C:He's missed one game so far.
Speaker A:He's missed one game.
Speaker C:He's missed one out of. This is game nine. Like that's not terrible.
Speaker D:So just won the end of year one.
Speaker A:Technically it's only game six because they had one game and then they canceled the rest of the season. Year two. So this is his sixth game. He's about to come in coming up. So it's not game nine.
He's missed one game out of six possible games because the season was canceled.
Speaker C:If anything, Harry needs to bulk up because he's constantly getting hurt and that's why he's missing these games. Like, he needs to put on some muscle so that he can take the beating of the school year and still be in the game.
Speaker A:I would like to point out that Harry with the. With a broken arm, caught the Golden Snitch. Even with the injury, he delivers well.
Speaker C:Because he has two arms. He should have got it.
Speaker A:After it was over.
Speaker D:We're going to have to move on from Quidditch. We're going to be stuck on there.
Speaker B:He missed one of six games. Only three games a year.
Speaker A:He's four.
Speaker C:Three.
Speaker B:Because there's four.
Speaker A:Oh, that's.
Speaker B:Yeah. So there's only three games a year. It's a huge. He missed.
He missed 33% of that season, which was the most important game to win the house cup this next year. The game got ca. The other games got canceled. Like, this is something that they should be considering there in the Gryffindor front office.
That's something they need to be considering about replacing Harry at Seeker with someone who's more available. Two years, no house cups.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker B:You know what this is?
Speaker C:This is like Belichick with the Patriots when he had all of the power of the Coach and the GM. Someone needs GM responsibility. It can't be McG because she's gambling on it, so she can't be an active participant.
Speaker A:Hey, there have been plenty of people who have gambled on the teams and still been a gm.
Speaker B:She currently has gm. Gm. Right. Like, she's currently the gm.
Speaker A:I mean, she recruited Harry. She's done some recruitment.
Speaker C:She's a booster and a scout. She put Harry on the team and bought him a broom.
Speaker A:I. I don't like all this slander that's being thrown around, though.
Speaker B:I. I'm I'm just saying, like, we're entering year three. Wood wants this championship so bad. He's about to go over three. And with having the best player in a generation. Allegedly. Allegedly.
Speaker A:I. I don't know.
Speaker B:Hey, the.
Speaker C:The Cavs didn't win the first time LeBron was there.
Speaker A:Here. Here's. Here's my. Here's. Here's my punish. The last game, Harry couldn't play because he was ir, right?
Speaker D:Yes.
Speaker A:Why did they have no one to pull off the bench to play for him before McGonagall? Exactly. That's my point. There should be a bench before McGonagall scouted Harry Potter. What were they going to do?
They weren't going to anyway because ain't doing his damn.
Speaker B:You're gonna have trial, we're gonna sign somebody. I mean it's not. There's no one that can handle the fact there's nothing they can do that the. The. That a team only has seven active players at a time.
I mean that's, that's. That. That's just.
Speaker A:Is what it is active. But baseball team only has nine active players at a time. But you still got.
Speaker B:No, no, no no baseball team. You have guys on the. In this game you only have enough that's playing. That's just how the rules are here at Hogwart. Nothing you can do about that.
But that's why we need to look into replacing the Seeker straight away.
Speaker A:Well, here you go. Harry was knocked out for how many days he had. Oliver had time to get someone else. He had time to get someone else to be the Seeker.
Speaker B:I'm just. I'm. I'm. I'm just saying that there might be a mismanagement in the Griffin or front office and there may be.
It may be time for us to be looking for a new Seeker or looking for a new coach slash gm. I'm. These are just.
Speaker A:Oliver's on his way out anyway, right? He's retiring after this season.
Speaker B:So if I'm Oliver, I'm making this change of Seeker now because I only have one more shot at this.
Speaker C:If I'm Oliver Wood, I'm pushing for Quidditch free agency. Let me go to a different house and bring in talent.
Speaker B:Do you. Do you. Do you push for a transfer to Slytherin?
Speaker A:Oh hell no. Slytherin Seeker sucks. He's only on the team because he bought his way. Just because they. They touch their salary cap. What's that?
Speaker B:You know what, you're right. I think, I think based on the events of this chapter I push for a switch to Hufflepuff.
Obviously if I'm Oliver Wood, I'm an upgrade over their keeper. That's me. I'm an upgrade right there. They already have a big bodied Seeker out here. The Bludgers are not quite.
Speaker A:Which usually is not an advantage, right? It's usually not advantage to have a big bodied Seeker. That's not a good look.
Speaker B:The kid is also devilishly good looking.
Speaker A:Obviously this is the child or, or.
Speaker B:Is Ravenclaw really the best squad that we should be looking at?
Speaker A:I probably would Ravenclaw, I mean Ravenclaw hold their own. But I am. I am biased because I'm a Ravenclaw booster.
Speaker B:Should. Should Oliver Wood be looking for a transfer for the Ravenclaw or should he be looking for a new Seeker?
Speaker A:If he transferred, do they make him red shirt? He'll. He won't get his championship anyway if.
Speaker B:He has the red shirt. He can't be a graduate transfer. He can't be a graduate transfer. That's not possible in this situation. This is Year seven.
We're out of here after this. This is the last shot at the house Cup.
Speaker A:Sounds like he's out of options.
Speaker B:You gotta find a new Seeker. Then you just have to go to a new secret. Sorry about that.
Speaker A:We'll return with more quidditch analysis. Anyways, McGonagall gets Madame Hooch to supervise their practices. Weather is sucky. It's been raining and storming the whole time.
Slytherin, as we mentioned, sucks. They're not a good team. So they make up some excuse that their Seeker's arm is injured.
Now again, I remind you it has been months since the incident in Care for Magical Creatures and all he got was a little scratch on the arm. His arm is not still injured, but Malfoy is. A little. And so Slytherin pretends their Seeker is still not 100%.
So they swap the schedule and instead of playing Slytherin, they have to play the Hufflepuffs. And as Kevin mentioned, they have a brand new Seeker. And captain. His name just so happens to be Cedric Diggory. Here we are, our first look at Cedric.
He's good looking, he's tall, he's big bodied as the ladies like to say. And he's dreamy. And this is what the girls are saying. Calm down.
Speaker C:He also sparkles in the sun.
Speaker A:He also sparkles in the sun.
Speaker D:He's also very moody and has lots of gadgets.
Speaker A:They didn't say he's very. He's a silent. He's a silent killer. So there you go.
Speaker B:So the opponent changed. I don't know how the schedule just changes like this. There's only so many opponents.
Speaker A:You know what? Because McGonagall is not the only booster. Snape is a snake, just like the Slytherin house mascot. And they are cheaters. Just like the Patriots.
Speaker B:If I'm Oliver Wood, I don't know. I don't know that I play this game. I think I protest because we didn't make a change when Harry was knocked out, right?
Speaker A:True, we didn't. Why do I have to play in a big ass storm? It's not. It wasn't it's not my time on the schedule.
Speaker B:We play rain or shine. So we should be playing Slytherin tonight.
Speaker C:What about thunder and lightning and you're flying in the sky? That just doesn't seem like a good idea.
Speaker B:All that stuff still tracks. You still play. But I want to know why we're getting a different opponent and your Seeker's not ready. Well, my Seeker was literally.
Literally under a chamber. Inside of a.
Speaker A:Inside of a coma. In a coma.
Speaker B:But we still had to play the game.
Speaker A:We still had to play. Yeah, we gotta play the game.
Speaker B:I don't understand how I did not if I'm Oliver. I don't understand how I did not get the same.
Speaker A: Deflategate: Speaker B:This wild. This is wild to me.
Speaker A:So the kids head to class. They're heading into Dada and they're excited to see Lupin. But who's there instead? Snape.
Snape says he is out under the weather and he basically spends the whole class being a jerk. He's criticized Lupin and how he's teaching and the kids are not going to stand for it. They're like, he's the best teacher we ever had.
Dean Thomas was like, he's the best Defense against the Dark Arts teachers we've ever had. And he ain't wrong.
Speaker B:Who walks into Defense against the Dark Arts and sees Snape sitting there and.
Speaker A:Then just goes, fuck Harry Potter. That's how he got 15 points taken from Gryffindor. Ron Decimus. Man.
Speaker B:What are you doing here, dog?
Speaker A:Oh yeah.
Speaker D:All the way Neville wishes. Like I'm not, I'm not going in there. All my friends.
Speaker A:I'm just not gonna do it. I'm just not gonna do it. I mean you can teach a class. What's gonna happen to you?
So Snape makes them do a lesson on werewolves, which is at the back of the book. Hermione's trying to be like dude, that's not what we're on. Where we. And he goes, well, Lupin didn't leave no lesson plans.
And all the whole class is like, oh, we've done this. We don't. This, we're supposed to be here. And he's like shut up. He's ill prepared. I don't give a. We're doing this stuff. He makes everyone miserable.
He criticizes everything. Everyone's mad, they're all giving guff. But Ron, of course Ron pops off because Snape asks a question about werewolves. Hermione knows the answer.
He doesn't call on her. Ron goes, if you know she knows the answer, why you gonna ask the question if you don't want the answer? I'm like, oh, right.
Speaker B:Ron says, we back to this again. This ain't potion. If you call it on somebody, someone's gonna answer you. He has their hand up and then Snape's like, this is his pearls and.
Speaker A:Says like, detention, Weasley tension, bitch. So Ron gives himself some detention. Scrub out bedpans with his hands. No magic involved. Gross.
Speaker B:So I remember when I was like, I remember when we were in school, right?
I remember I had a class, we had a music class and our teacher, she left in the middle of the school year and went to another school with a more lucrative offer. And we had a substitute that was supposed to be a long term substitute till somebody.
We had two guys that just went off every day in class made this dude's life hell. And he would like send them out of class, then they'd be back the next day back to do the same shit.
And one day he got the teacher got into a shouting match with one of them and then that student threw his stuff across his own stuff across the room. And he was, yeah, and he was like, I never. I. You ain't Ms. Hawkins.
He like went off on this teacher cursed him out and teacher said, I don't want you ever back in classes. I'll be back tomorrow. He sure was, he was back the next day. And that long term sub was long term after all.
And he was gone at the end of that week because it was just a terror from like Tuesday to Friday. I don't know why Ron didn't just go full nuclear. Because this dude not our real teacher.
Speaker A:In here because he's still gonna see him in Potions. This wasn't no long term stuff. This was an actual teacher. So like, you know, you can't be like and then go to your next class and it's the same guy.
Like, nah, that's not.
Speaker B:I mean if you couldn't pull a.
Speaker A:Hole, my mama told me to tell you.
Speaker B:Well, here's the thing though.
Speaker D:Yeah, none of that.
Speaker B:If I have potions I get it.
But if we don't have potions and I'm like feeling a little bit a certain type of way about this and you, you don't ever call on Hermione and she always got her hands up and the potions that may fly, but in here we call on the people whose hands is raised.
Speaker D:These teachers give out detentions when you're in the great hall, they give you detention no matter where you are. I don't think I'm going nuclear.
Speaker A:Well yeah, suspended.
Speaker B:No, you already got detention.
Speaker C:What about another potential.
Speaker A:That's true. The funny part is he, he takes 50 points from Gryffindor. 50 Points? Like 50 points was a lot in the first year.
It's not so much in third year apparently. But he takes it from Hermione for being a know it all. And my favorite line is like everybody calls mine and know it all. But we could call her that.
You don't get to call her that.
Speaker D:Oh wait, so wait, so he, he took five more from her. So what? 15 From Harry Potter, right? And then five, 10 more from her. So what?
Speaker A:Oh yeah, he got five 50, Ron got 50 taken. So that is no 15 for Harry Fiverr. That's 20 plus fit. 70 Points from Gryffindor in this one five minute period. Pretty much wild.
Speaker B:It's wild.
Speaker A:They're not even trying to win the house points now. They're like house points.
Speaker B:If Snapes around, he's just taking points from Gryffindor. Like there. Someone needs to look into these points.
Speaker C:Wait, can we talk about the fact that Snape took 50 points here for talking back. They got five points each for fighting a troll.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, there's this disparity in the points.
Speaker C:Inflation is out of control here.
Speaker D:It's a little tough. It's a little.
Speaker A:They do need to do an audit of Snape's points and points giving and points taken.
Speaker C:They lost 50 points each for sneaking out near one. But 50 points was a lot of points then. And now we're just taking 50 willy nilly.
Speaker D:I still only thought he took 25 y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker D:But I'm not seeing the extra 20 he took from Ron.
Speaker A:But yeah, he took 50. He took 50.
Speaker B:He took 50. It's, it's wild. This, this Snape is the worst. He is the worst. There's no type of redemption for this man. None whatsoever.
I don't care what any of you people tell me about this dude. Loves Lily or whatever. Like nah man, this dude, the way he treats these children is, is terrible. He should not be on a school campus.
If you don't like these kids then go do something else with that greasy ass hair. Go do like potions somewhere else. Go work. Go go own a potion shop or some, I don't know, go work for the ministry.
But you should not be around these kids acting the way you do.
Speaker A:Rant.
Speaker B:It's the truth. It's the truth. I know, I know that the three of you. I know, I know. Especially Natasha. She over here. Stay. Stay. Caping for them. But I don't know why.
I don't know why. Can you talk to me, Natasha? Why? We just want. We get time after time when this dude's an asshole.
Speaker D:He's an. But at the end of the day,.
Speaker B:At the end of the day, at.
Speaker D:The end of the day from book one, he does. He. He saves them. So, you know, he's that much of an.
Speaker A:Let's not get into the snake. We have other things to discuss there. There'll be more Snape later. Let's move on. Snape is an in this section definitely. Yes. He's definitely on one.
He definitely still has some like, childhood issues he needs to work out. He needs to go to therapy. He needs to. He. He has a lot of self reflection that he refuses to do. But let's move on. This horrible class was awful.
They leave class, the weather's still crazy. Harry can't sleep because he's worried about the. The Quidditch match. And he wakes up early because he can't sleep. It's like 4am or whatever.
And he goes down into the Gryffindor comma room and he sees Crookshanks trying to get up into the dorms. And he's like, dang, Ron might be right about you. There are all these mice on this campus. Get away from here.
And he kind of shoes him away and he goes down and he's kind of just you know, trying to get into the Zen mode for the match that they're gonna have. He goes down to breakfast. The rest of the team, you know, comes to sit with them and they're like, we're ready. We can do it. We can do it.
This is the worst storm they've ever had. There's all the wind, all the rain, all the thunder, all the lightning. It is crazy.
Any other sporting event would be canceled, but they don't do that in Quidditch. So they go out there and they play and everyone's freezing. They're all drenched. They can't see anything. They can't hear anything. It's all this crazy.
Harry almost runs into several people because he can't see them to the last minute. And partway through, Oliver Wood calls a timeout. And he's like, oh, we need time out. We need to regroup. At this point, Gryffindor is up 50 points.
And I'm assuming it must be the zero, because later when they lose, they only lose by 100 points. So, so we can see here Hufflepuff is not a good team anyways Harry can't see his glasses all fogged up.
Hermione for some reason is down there on the field and she, she fixes Harry's glasses so they don't fog up so he can see. So Oliver's like yeah we could do it. Yeah. They go back into the game they're they're playing and Harry sees a big black dog near the field.
Speaker B:How does someone just come down and put a spell on some equipment to fix it in the middle of the game?
Speaker A:I mean I feel like that would be cheating. That's like this is cheating.
Speaker D:This is undoubtedly equipment manager. Okay.
Speaker C:Spectator McGonagall did when she walked her down there.
Speaker B:Sure came running, came running down like a pro wrestling match and said she's in the match she's in. She's a part of the team she's the equipment manager as she puts the spell on the glasses for the boys.
Speaker A:I mean I feel like McGonagall could have done that impervious spell herself like clearly at least she knows.
Speaker D:That was a good point somebody brought up earlier too like I mean woods is a seventh year he doesn't know impervious like what Where's I don't think.
Speaker B:It's not that he doesn't know what it doesn't think of this. That's all it is.
Speaker A:I mean these spells are supposed to be applicable and Hogwarts not teaching them how to apply spells like in what situations you would apply spells.
Speaker C:Well this is another example of Hermione being the only one that actually uses the magic that they learned.
Speaker A:This is correct. This is correct. She is the only one like I, I I mean we are where this is chapter nine who else has done a spell at this point?
I think it was doing Lumos to do his homework in the beginning of the book but who else has been doing this class? Nobody really Nobody but Hermione.
So she fixes Harry's glasses I don't know why like CJ mentioned they should have all had impervious goggles so they could all see this whole time like this is just ill prepared I this goes back to Kevin's point. It there is mismanagement of this team and it falls on Oliver woods feet Anyways so they get back into the game they're all determined.
Harry can now see because Hermione fixed his glasses and he sees a big black dog on the side of the field. Now we all know this big black Dog is very. It takes the form of a Grim, or he thinks it's a Grim. And he's like, ah. And then Oliver goes, hey.
And he turns and Cedric Diggory is chasing the snitch. So Harry takes off after him. He has the great broom. He's gonna try to catch up. He's gonna get the snitch.
And then everything turns cold and he starts to feel sad. And we see now. I looked up, up the collective now for dementors. I couldn't find one, so I made one myself. A disaster of dementors.
The book says there's a hundred.
Speaker D:I like it.
Speaker A:I'm going with it. The book says there's about a hundred dementors coming at Harry. 100 Dementors on the pitch coming at Harry. So a disaster of dementors coming at him.
And he hears. The first time it was one dementor. He heard screaming and moaning and suffering with all of these dementors on the pitch coming for him.
He hears the moment his mother dies. And then, of course, he faints and falls off his broom and everything blacks out. Like, I. I can't even imagine.
You can't even imagine being able to hear your mother beg for your life and give up your hers and die. Like. Like this is where Harry is just so alone in some aspects, in some ways. And it kind of.
First of all, he should be telling more than he is, but you can see why he doesn't, because who can relate to that? Who can relate to that? I would agree.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:This absolutely bonkers.
Speaker B:You're definitely burying the lead. He loses the game. Okay? He loses the game.
Speaker A:We haven't gotten there yet. You are jumping ahead. We do things in chronological.
Speaker C:Sir.
Speaker A:We do things in chronological order. We haven't gotten there yet.
Speaker B:This is not some magical situation like in book two, where he falls from the broom and he grabs the snitch on his way down. He loses.
Speaker A:It is a magical situation. He was attacked by a disaster of dementors, which forced him to hear the moment his mom perished. And then he lost consciousness.
Speaker B:He needs to stay focused in the middle of these games. Like I said, availability is the most important ability. And if this kid cannot fight through adversity, like hearing his mom's death, he needs.
We need to be looking for someone else that can get the job done here at Seeker. I'm just saying.
Speaker A:Kevin. Kevin. You're giving me Snape energy right now. You're giving me Snape energy. You're giving me Snape energy.
Speaker B:They put would have Cared even less than I do right now. Right now I'm just thinking about what's good for Oliver Wood.
Speaker A:Of everyone Snape cared about Lily's death. Okay, okay.
Speaker B:Oliver Wood trying to win this House cup. That's all. I'm just trying to. I'm talking from that. That point of view.
Speaker A:Well, Harry loses consciousness and he wakes up in the hospital wing. Everyone is afraid that he died. And they're all happy he's okay. Ron, Hermione is there. Hermione looks like she's been crying.
His whole team's there, except for Oliver Wood, who is crying in the showers. And yeah, the first thing Harry says is, did we lose the match?
Speaker B:Yeah. Listen, Harry understands how important this is, which is why we need to start talking about replacing them. Like, he gets it. He gets it.
Speaker A:He needs to sacrifice himself for the good of the team. Yeah, I feel like he's done that several times.
Speaker B:You're being awfully quiet over there. I know you have opinions about winning this game.
Speaker C:I feel like Harry knows that it's his fault. And everyone's like, harry, it's not your fault. And he's like, but it is. Because the best ability is availability.
Speaker B:Yeah. And I have proven to not be available several times.
Speaker A:Two times. This is the second time.
Speaker C:And they're owing to.
Speaker D:My guy, Harry. Where is, you know the people who supposed to be in charge of the environment? Book one, we got people cursing him.
You know, Book two, okay, we have Chamber of Secrets. Yeah, but even then, like, who.
Speaker A:Who.
Speaker D:Not the moth is broom.
Speaker B:I can't remember,.
Speaker D:You know, but like,.
Speaker A:Where Dobby, the one you love so much.
Speaker D:I do still love Dobby. Whatever. And then this one, we got the dementors. You know, like, who's in charge of security for the Quidditch Master.
Speaker A:No safer place in Hogwarts.
Speaker C:No, this. There is no safer place. This falls on Madam Hooch. Madam Hooch does nothing. And like, here's the worst part about Madam Hooch. It's like high school.
You only got to take flying your first year. Like, you know, at high school, you got to take swimming your freshman year because they got to make sure you can swim after that.
Speaker A:No, we didn't have that at my high school.
Speaker D:We had to do swimming.
Speaker A:Natasha went to rich high schools. Now we found out the truth comes out. Yeah, we didn't do that. No.
Speaker C:Anyway.
Speaker D:Crazy. Go ahead.
Speaker C:No, just high school. Anyway, so like, the. The swimming teachers were the PE teachers. You took swimming as the first thing you did your freshman year.
You take flying as it's required your first year. And then after I do it. Got to take that anymore. How many people are actively taking flying later on? Like you don't need credits.
Speaker A:It's only one class a year the first year. Yeah.
Speaker D:Yep. So you're right. What is Madam Vouch doing on her free time?
Speaker A:That's what I stepped up for. She should have been out there supervising practices anyway.
Speaker C:And she should be making sure the equipment is sound. She needs to be making that. Security is in tip top shape. You can't have a disaster of dementors coming out on the field.
Speaker D:She should make sure that everyone has impervious on their glasses when it's raining. I agree.
Speaker A:I appreciate the adoption of my collective now, cj. I appreciate you.
Speaker D:Somebody needs to add that to the wiki. It's a disaster.
Speaker B:As we're sitting here though. Oliver Wood is. He can't change the system, but I can change the team. And we need. We have two more matches here.
We have a match against Ravenclaw coming up, which is going to be a big one. And then a huge match against Slytherin. In order for us to take the house cup, we need the point differential. Now if we lost this match, we can't.
Right. We can't drop the next two. Obviously. We gotta beat Ravenclaw and Handily. And we have to be Slytherin. Like these are just how it breaks down.
So if I'm Oliver. Yes. I'm not in the shower just crying. I'm strategizing. I'm trying to figure out what can we do about our HP problem. Because yeah, the kid is.
Is a prodigy. But if he's not on the pitch alive, no matter.
Speaker C:No matter.
Speaker B:Passing out, having bludgers fly at him. Be that or be which. It doesn't matter. We wouldn't have this problem if we had Colin Creevy or Seamus Finnegan on a broom. We wouldn't have this issue.
Speaker A:I feel like Seamus Finnegan would like explode something though. So maybe. Maybe pull Dean. And Dean's good at soccer. He could adapt that to Quidditch.
Speaker B:We just gotta look at something different. Go. Go on.
Speaker C:At least Wood didn't look at Dean and be like, we need more natural athletes on the team.
Speaker B:True.
Speaker A:You already got Angelina Johnson.
Speaker B:Shout out to Christopher, by the way, once again, for having a three women.
Speaker A:The best chasers at Hogwarts.
Speaker B:Yeah, shout out to them.
Speaker D:They win every game they play.
Speaker A:They just kind of play more games they gotta play. All have to play. So Cedric caught the snitch, right?
After Harry fell off his broom once he found out what happened, Cedric tried to call for a rematch. So this kind of gives us some, some a glimpse into Cedric's character here. And you know he is true Hufflepuff there.
Obviously they were like hell nah, it's cold, we're done. So they did give the win. Even Oliver had to concede. I mean he won fair and square.
It wasn't his fault that Dementors were there and he was on the snitch before Harry even noticed the snitch was there. So they gave it to Hufflepuff.
Oliver still, still upset that we learned that Dumbledore had to arresto momentum and then expecto Patronum to save Harry from those dementors. And as he's doing that, Harry's broom flew into the Whomping Willow.
That gone and it is destroyed because as says the romping Willow don't like to be hit w the out of that broom. So Hermione gives him a bag of shards of wood and it's like here you go, bruh. I collected or Flitwick collected it for you.
And that is the end of chapter nine.
Speaker B:Oliver's got to really look into it, man. He's got to really look into replacing this kid. I'm just saying something.
Speaker A:We gotta see where you're coming from. I don't know where, where is he pulling, where is he pulling this talent from, Kevin? Where is he getting from Colin Creevey? Take pictures.
Speaker B:We gotta, we gotta, we gotta run a tryout. We gotta run a tryout. We gotta see who's good at fighting this thing.
Speaker C:I mean he, he never checked on Ginny Weasley who eventually replaces Harry.
Speaker A:This is true.
Speaker B:We gotta give her a run.
Speaker A:Jenny Weasley is actually a very exceptional athlete as we see. She probably could have done other things too.
Speaker C:Doesn't she go on to play for the Hollyhead Hartbeast?
Speaker A:She goes on to play professionally. Yes, she does.
Speaker B:Something we gotta look into. Something we gotta look into. We have her right here under our nose.
Speaker A:There is some untapped have talent like you said. They should have a tryout. They never had the tryout. Right.
And Jenny wasn't there that year, but they never had the tryout so he doesn't know what's available to him.
Speaker D:I feel like replacing Harry while he's there is like saying that, ooh, Steph Curry missed a game so we're gonna replace him.
Speaker B:If we're three years in. And Steph Smith, that's only played a third of the Games throughout the seasons.
Speaker A:Two thirds. Two thirds.
Speaker B:We gotta look for somebody. We gotta look for somebody. But you're missing the playoffs every year, right? You're missing the playoffs every year. That's when we need you.
Speaker C:Harry might be Steph Curry, but he's got that Draymond availability.
Speaker B:You see what I'm saying? That's not good. That's not good.
Speaker A:He didn't punch nobody. At least not yet.
Speaker C:Not yet.
Speaker A:Anyways, chapter 10 is called the Marauders. Yes. We're finally getting to it. We're finally getting to it, guys. We're finally getting to it.
So Harry Potter has to stay in the hospital wing for the weekend. And the whole time he's mourning his broomstick because he felt like he lost a friend.
Which, as we know, Harry doesn't have very many, so I believe it. Ron and Hermione stay with him all weekend until night time. You know, they go to their dorm to sleep and he gets lots of visitors.
Even Oliver comes and goes. It's all good. No, no, no bet. No big deal. But Harry's just so sad about losing his broom.
He does not tell Ron and Hermione that he saw the Grim right before the Dementor showed up. So, again, keeping his old patterns of not giving relevant information to people up front, like Harry.
The reason why this book is 27 chapters is because of your ass. It could have been like 10.
Speaker C:Also, can we talk about the fact that Hermione has proven to, like, solve every problem and Harry still doesn't give her all the information? Like, what are you doing? Okay.
Speaker A:True, true. Tell Hermione. She would have figured it out already. And then she would have used her Time Turner to go and fix it before it became an issue.
I'm showing my Time Turner. For those of y' all out there, every time I say it, I have it in my hand. Anyway, so Draco, he's a total dick because of the. The Gryffindor's losing.
Now all of a sudden, his arm is miraculously healed. He's being a jerk to everybody. He's being mean. Of Potions. Ron does something because, you know, Wheezy's always ready to pop off.
And he gets points taken from Gryffindor because he throws something into Draco's face. Which, I mean, I feel like anyone would do that.
Speaker C:I believe it was a crocodile heart, which. You just have those laying around?
Speaker A:Yeah. Like, I don't know what they'd be doing in Potions. But he got him square in the face, though. And that's the important part and also.
Speaker C:Why does Harry live rent free in Draco's mind? Like if Harry just called him on.
Speaker A:That what would Draco say is obsessed with Harry Potter? I like every time Draco does it I hear Mariah Carey's song why is so obsessed with me?
Like he wants to marry Harry Potter he wants to marry him and have his babies it's true.
Speaker D:I really think it's because Harry wasn't there Maloy would be like the most, you know he has the most high profile family I think he would have gotten more attention if Harry wasn't there and he's mad because Harry rebuffed his friendship he was like if I can't be Harry at least I should be besties with Harry and Harry was like.
Speaker A:No be with Harry maybe I can be Harry.
No, I, I, I think Maloy thinks if Harry weren't there he'd be getting more attention but he wouldn't Nobody likes Draco Maloy he is, he is unremarkable Even his own dad disappoint him like there's nothing to recommend him he's just a shitty human being and a mediocre.
Speaker D:One but that's, I mean that's the definition of most mediocre men but he had, he would have enough money to throw around and to have his way he has the backing of Snape who is next to McGonagall one of the most powerful, you know, heads of hat so like if you take Harry out of the equation Malfoy is a much.
Speaker A:Bigger match if you take Harry, if you take Harry out of the equation Malfoy is not a seeker on Slytherin's team he has no reason or motivation to the only reason why he's on that Quidditch team is because Harry was on the Gryffindor team.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:You take Harry out of the equation he isn't doing all these other things and, and shouting all this out because he does all that stuff for Harry's attention you take care of the equation.
Speaker D:He still the super rich kid I.
Speaker A:Mean that's, that's, he's a super rich unremarkable kid he's not the only What.
Speaker D:I said like mediocre people, that's what they do they throw their money around and he has the most but he's.
Speaker A:Not the only super rich kid at Hogwarts he's not like the richest like there are plenty of wealthy kids at Hogwarts the only reason Malfoy is anything is because he's Always after Harry Potter without Harry Potter. Who the fuck is Draco? Malfoy.
Speaker C:And he's always doing it. Yeah, he's always going after Harry in front of people. That's what I'm saying.
If when they have a crowd and Malfoy's just popping off, if Harry just goes, you know, why are you so obsessed with me? Why am I living rent free in your mind? What does Draco say to that?
Speaker A:Nothing, because it's true. I mean, he even spends his time not at Hogwarts talking about Harry. He's like talking about Harry to his dad all the time. He likes, like Draco.
Draco is in love with Harry Potter and it's sad. He needs to come face to face with his homoerotic tendencies and just. Just realize, like, it's okay.
Speaker D:That's a bit far. Homoerotic tendencies.
Speaker C:There's some sexual tension there.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, definitely. Oh, boy. All right. Hey, some kids find out really young. I mean, Draco's in love with Harry. It's true. So they go back to Dada and Lupin is back.
Everyone, as soon as they see it's them, they all pop off and they're like, why is they doing this? He did this. He did that. He gave us all this homework. And Lupin's like, wow, okay, I'll talk to him. You don't have to do the assignment. Of course.
Hermione's like, but I already finished it because she's Hermione.
Speaker D:They.
Speaker A:After the class, Harry talks to Lupin. Lupin kind of checks in on him about what happened with the Quidditch match. And we learn that the Whomping Willow is only about 23 years old.
his first year, which is like:So either it was planted in 71 and it's only about 23 years old, or it was transplanted in 71. Yeah, maybe it is older and they moved it. I don't know. But I. This is the thing that goes through my mind when I read this book.
I'm like, wait, be a year younger.
Speaker D:Though, and not know.
Speaker A:Is he maybe.
Speaker D:Exact same as looping in them, like,.
Speaker A:As long as I'm sure they didn't.
Speaker D:Like grow the tree. I'm sure it came, you know, because they needed it to be whomping from the beginning. So, you know, they probably brought it.
Speaker A:As a decent size.
Speaker C:If I remember correctly, he's the same age because Lily's the same age.
Speaker A:Yeah. Him and Lily are contemporaries. They. They were BFFs, so. Or friends. I won't say BFFs, because he's kind of the stretch. I know. I took it back, Kev.
ere else and brought it in in:Anywho, this is what goes through my head while I'm reading. I'm like, oh, the math is not mapped in here. Whatever.
So Lupin gives a funny story about when it was first brought in, when he was in his first year, and how they used to play games and sub kid almost lost his eye. Boys will be boys, I guess. I don't know. So they bring up the dementors again. And he. Harry's like, hey, like, these dementors, man, they're crazy.
You were able to fight it all off. What did. What's going on?
Lupin talks about how it's, you know, they're hungry because they haven't fed because they've been, you know, guarding everything. And they feed off of people's fears and joys and hopes, and they haven't been able to do that for months, so they're hungry.
He tells Lupin that he heard his mother's moment of death. Now, here's where Lupin is caught slipping a little bit, if you pay attention.
So, one, he goes to try to, like, touch Harry, but we know teachers don't be touching kids.
So he has to, like, take his hand back because a friend, a best friend of your father's who's probably like an uncle to you, would come and touch and comfort and hug you, but your professor cannot.
Also, when he talks about hearing the moment his mom died, he accidentally drops his suitcase and has to bend down to pick it up, which is when he's like, like, flustered. Probably has to, like, wipe tears from his eyes and. Or whatever. So Lupin's caught slipping just a little bit.
Harry's like, hey, you were able to scare off that dementor. They keep coming after me. Can you help me fight them off? And at first it was like, well, I don't know. I know.
He's like, please, please, please, Harry. So he goes, fine, I'll do it, but only after the holiday break. Like, right now, I'm tired as we got to do it then. And Harry's like, like, cool.
So that makes Harry feels a little bit better that now he's Gonna find a way to fight off bothering him. We also learn Ravenclaw demolishes Hufflepuff in their Quidditch match in November. So they have a chance. Gryffindor are back in there.
Oliver is finds a new lease on life and they're back at it. They're back to practice, to try to win that Quidditch.
Speaker B:I'm really stepping up the search now because now we have a chance. So I really need that new seeker.
Speaker D:You are a dog with a bone right now.
Speaker A:And I. I'll give it to you.
He probably should be trying to find a backup sneaker seeker because, you know, Harry tends to get into the most trouble at the end of the school year. Right?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:But Oliver is not a forward thing. He's clearly not a planner. He's a drill and kill type of dude.
Speaker C:So true to your point, the end of the year is when you need it the most. So you just need to be in the planning phases right now. You need to be in the deployment phase by like March.
Speaker A:True, but Oliver obviously doesn't think that way. So it is now December. We've come through November. We're in December again.
I would like to point out to Ronald Weasley that Sirius Black is still at large. Okay. But there is another Hogsmeade weekend coming up right before everybody breaks for Christmas.
And again, Harry's sad because he ain't gonna be able to go.
So on that weekend, it's the last one before the break, he's sad, he waves off his friends and he goes to turn around and sadly walk back to the Gryffindor Tower. But Frederick and George Weasley call them over and they're like, hey, we got you, bruh. We got you.
We're gonna get you into Hogsmeade and we're gonna get you in using this here Marauder's Map.
Speaker D:Do we think Dumbledore gave the twins the Marauders Map?
Speaker A:No, because they let us know that they stole it from Filch's office in their first year. So they've had, what are they, fourth years.
Speaker C:They're fourth years at this point.
Speaker A:Fourth years. So they've had this for a couple of years now. So. No, Dumbledore did not give them the Martyrs Map.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Where does Filch get it from? Like, I feel like that's, that's just,.
Speaker A:That's just too easy. Well, Filch confiscated it.
Speaker B:This map has gone on and on since these. The boys read the school, so they just.
Speaker D:That's one thing I, I would Love like a tracking of like when. When masseurs, Warmtail, Mo etc left, who would they leave it to?
Speaker A:So Phil actually confiscated it. I believe he got it from them. But by that point they knew the map like the back of their hands. They didn't need it anymore. So it was.
It's been in his possession for quite some time. I'm sure it kind of bounced around a little bit.
But Filch has had it for quite some time and the Weasleys found it their first year at Hogwarts and now it is their map. My question isn't. My question isn't how they got it, it's how they figure out that you had to say the words, I solemnly swear I'm up to no good.
Unless Fred and George just go around saying that all the time and it just happens to be.
Speaker D:That's all I'm saying. Like, I feel like there were some extra things that play that they get it. I don't know, maybe I'm just reaching.
Speaker A:A little bit there, but I feel like Fred and George are clever enough on their own to figure it out. But one thing that, that once they give it to Harry again, this is another bit of his inheritance rights because we know that his dad is Prongs.
We know Matt, we know it's Moody, Wormtail, Mooney, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs. His dad is Prong. So this is the map his dad created. And it comes into his hands just like he got his dad's invisibility quote.
He slowly but surely gets pieces of his inheritance sprinkled out throughout the years. Right. The map actually helps you to use it. So I think if the.
Because when Harry goes to use it and is showing him how to get to Hogsmeade, it basically shows a little miniature of him going over and going and saying the correct spell. Like, this is something I think people don't appreciate if you've only watched the films.
The map is like, I sense that you are seriously up to no good. Let me help you do it.
Speaker D:It.
Speaker A:So I'm thinking the twins grab this from the highly dangerous file in Filch's office. The map senses their mischievous nature and goes, dude, say this and I got you, fam.
So the map probably helped them to figure out this is what I'm thinking in my head as I'm like, who told them the password? The map probably was like, oh, I recognize. All right. I recognize Kendra spirits. Here you go. Here's how you use me. So. So they bequeathed it to Harry.
And this just Shows Fred and George are such sweet little boys. Because they're like, we're not the only ones who should be doing mission. Everyone should be joining in. Let me help you. They're Givers.
They're Givers. And Harry uses it and he is able to sneak into Hogsmeade, into Honeydukes. He ends up in their basement and he's able to kind of sneak out.
And who does he find but his BFFs Ron and Hermione. And they're trying to figure out what kind of candy to give him.
For some reason they're thinking of giving him like blood worms or blood candy or some like. What? What are you thinking, Ron? That don't make no sense. So they're there. Hermione's like, oh my God, I can't believe you have this map.
We should turn it into the teachers. This is the one time that I disagree with her. Hermione, what the are you thinking? Of course you don't give that map to the teachers. Come on.
Speaker D:Agreed. Agreed.
Speaker A:And Harry says, nine. Turn it. Ascend. Are you going to turn me in? She says, of course not. So whatever. So they decide to head to the Three Broomsticks to get a Butterbeer.
Because just like in book two, where Harry just goes somewhere without any preparation he doesn't go get his father's invisibility cloak. Which you're going into a town that everybody knows you shouldn't be in. And everyone knows who you are. Maybe you shouldn't let them see you.
Come on, Harry. He doesn't go and get like a coat or a scarf or anything. It is the middle of winter, Harry. Of course it's cold.
He just walks out without anything like, come on. So they had to honey to Three Broomsticks so he can get a warm Butterbeer and warm up.
So they go and they sit down in the corner and he's so excited to be there. And who walks in but McGonagall, Litwick, Hagrid and Cornelius Fudge, the Minister of Magic. So he is sweating bullets. He's like, of course.
The one day I sneak into Hogsmeade, the Minister of Magic is here. Of course they all know who he is. So Hermione, the only one who does magic gets a Christmas tree to kind of scoot over and hide them from view.
And they all sit down at the table right next to them and they invite Rosemary to the. The proprietor of three rooms just to sit down. And then they get into the hot goss. Oh my gosh. Do they spill all the tea.
Speaker C:Wait, before we go into the hot gossip though, can we talk about the fact that Harry snuck out and like, yeah, out in the storm. People are gonna not see him. But he's the most famous wizard in the wizarding world. They've talked about it multiple times.
How did someone not recognize him in the Three Broomsticks?
Speaker A:Right? That's all I'm saying. That's why he should have taken that invisibility cloak. Harry's not.
Speaker C:You should keep that with him at all times.
Speaker A:At all times. If I invisibility cloak, I don't know how many times I would take it off. Y' all would just never see me again. I would be with you all the time.
You just would never know. Like, just the most underutilized tool ever. Like, come on.
Speaker B:The invisibility Club to be used for office.
Speaker C:It should.
Speaker A:It should.
Speaker C:It would solve a lot of his problems.
Speaker A:He should just have it on him at all times. Come on. So they all start gossiping and of course they're drinking. It's happy hours. So the, the, the, they're living this loose. The lips get loose.
And here's what we learn. First of all, they're there and they're discussing serious black. Right? Fudge updates Rose Merita and lets her know what happened on Halloween.
She's like, yeah, I heard a little bit of it, McGonagall. Side eyes Hagrid was like, dang, you told everybody. Hagrid Haggard, by the way, has about six flagons of beer.
And we know Hagrid's an alcoholic, so he probably did tell everybody. I they think Sirius Black is still in the area in the Hogsmeade area surrounding trying to get onto Hogwarts.
The Dementors are a regularly search Hogsmeade at this point. So they're not just patrolling Hogwarts ground, they're also searching Hogsmeade. And Rosemary is like, hey, this is bad for business.
Nobody wants to come in here if they're going to go face to face with the Dementor. Obviously everyone's like, yeah, we don't want them around anyway. We learn that Dumbledore is.
The Dementors are mad at Dumbledore because he won't let them onto Hogwarts Ground. And he's even more pissed because they came on that one time. McGonagall and Flitwick back him up. They're like, hell no. Dumbledore's right.
Keep them off our grounds. Yeah.
Then Rose Merta says, of all people, she is shocked that Sirius Black went to the dark side because she remembers him from when he was in school.
Now I want to point out that she is wearing some sparkly like turquoise heels and I want to know how old is her for she to remember Sirius Black back when he was in school 20 years ago. But she's still rocking the high heels. Like go off Rose Merta. That's all I have to say.
Speaker C:Okay, maybe she got it when she was young, maybe. And now she's getting like. Maybe she was in her 20s. If that was 23 years ago. She's now in her 40s.
Speaker D:She says she's fly and she's staying fly, you know, and she likes to keep up with the latest fashions.
Speaker A:Hey, I mad at her. I'm just saying go off Rosemary. Like she's still rocking them heels while running a bar. Like that wouldn't be me sis, but you do you Anyways.
So that's when they mentioned that Sirius Black and Black and James Potter were BFFLs. They were always together. They were brothers from another mother. Like everyone always knew where Sirius went, James followed.
Or where James went, serious followed. He was the best man at James's wedding to Lily. So this is news. And of course Harry and Ron and Hermione are listening to this whole thing.
This makes me think, how loud are they talking? Because this is a very full bar that they can still hear them. Like they are not even being subtle with the gossip.
Like, like, how are you having this.
Speaker B:Conversation too, just openly in a bar?
Speaker A:It just doesn't make sense in a bar out loud. This is not a very subtle place to have a conversation.
Speaker D:But is this not public knowledge to everyone? But maybe Harry Potter and those his age because anyone around at that time would have known.
Speaker B:Nah, this is not public knowledge.
Speaker A:It's not public knowledge because what Fudge sex next? He says there's. He did a horrible thing, but this is some stuff that people, not everybody knows. And then he can proceed to tell all this.
So Fudge says, I mean that they.
Speaker D:Were close, that they were friends.
Speaker A:Oh, that part.
Speaker B:Yeah. But not. Yeah, not the secret part.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you saying the. The loud parts and the quiet parts all out loud, like, come on.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:So they say that James and Sirius were the leak, the ringleaders of their little gang. They don't say who else was in the gang, but they had a little gang. Right. And that Hagrid goes.
Fred and George might have given them running for the money for troublemakers, but they were troublemakers. Sirius Black is Harry Potter's godfather. Omg. And the. Here's the part that most people didn't know. The Potters knew that Voldemort was after them.
Dumbledore has a spy, Severus, and that spy let him know that Dumbledore was after them. So they. Dumbledore told them they should use the Fidelius Charm. And Rosemary's like, what is that?
Well, thank you for asking for Rosemary because now Fudge can explain it for all of us. The Fidelius is a very complex spell where you have a secret keeper and that secret keeper keeps a secret in their soul.
And as long as that secret keeper doesn't say anything, no one can figure out your secret.
Speaker D:If.
Speaker A:If Voldemort had walked up to the Potter's window and looked inside, he would not be able to see them as long as the Secret Keeper kept that secret and Sirius Black was the Potter's secret keeper. Asterisk, asterisk, asterisk. Because we know that's not actually what happened, but that's what they believe.
So less than a week after they did the Fidelius Charm and had Sirius Black be their Secret Keeper, someone told Voldemort where they were. And of course it had to have been their secret keeper.
So obviously, obviously Voldemort goes and he kills the Potters are and Harry gets rid of him with his mother's love magic. And Dumbledore knew that someone was giving information that was close to the Potter. Someone in their inner camp was giving it away.
So he offered himself as a Secret Keeper because he wasn't sure who he could trust. But James was like, nope, I know Sirius would rather die than portray my secret. So he did not pick Dumbledore as his Secret Keeper.
And we all see how that worked out, right? So this is more damning evidence that why Sirius Black probably betrayed them.
So remember from book one, Hagrid had to go and get Harry and he came back on a motorbike that he got from Sirius Black. Remember way back in book one, I said, oh, we got our first serious Black sighting. And I said, then Sirius never got that motorbike back.
Hagrid says when he was there to get Harry, Sirius says to him, I'm Harry's godfather. Give him to me. I should take him him.
Hagar refuses because he has orders from Dumbledore and Hagrid is beating himself up because he comforted Sirius. He said he saw Sirius there, all white in the face.
He thought he was all broken up over James and Lily dying, but really he was upset about his dark lord being dispelled. All this is so upset.
Speaker B:All this is wild because they're just having this, like, conversation right here. They just got to been hackers. Like, man, I knew that this was not the. Dude.
Speaker A:Quiet.
Speaker B:And then Fudge is like, yeah. Then he like, blew up. Did he get there and he blew up a bunch of people and they're like, oh, Peter Pettigrew, man. That. That went out like a Cheeto.
Because he was out there trying to. Trying to stand up to him. And he should have waited for some of our people to come send him our.
And they're just having this conversation just out here in the open.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:And Harry's hearing all of it.
Speaker B:All of it just under. Under a table, hearing all this as. And her old brother's like, what? Like what? Like what?
Speaker D:They say bartenders know everything.
Speaker C:But this is why bartenders know everything, because people got loose lips.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Go get a drink and join us. Let me tell you, all the tea.
Speaker B:Like, still pissed. He's like, man, I tried to help this dude. They're like, man, Peter Pettic crew. What a g. What a. He went out. He got a Merlin ovation.
Speaker A:Merlin's order. Yes. One thing I want to point out. Sirius gives his motorbike to Hagrid, as we know. Because Hagrid is riding it when he drops Harry off.
And he says, I won't need it anymore.
Speaker D:This.
Speaker A:But no, no, no, no. This is what people who are about to commit suicide say. Right.
Speaker C:Serious.
Speaker A:Has decided that he's about to take someone for me. A rat. A rat? Yes, a rat. He's myself rat out. And he's like, it's gonna be him or me or both of us. I'm going all out.
Hagrid interpret this as, oh, he's going on the run. And he. He's trying to hide. Right.
Speaker B:Well, I. I just love the fact that all of Hagrid's, like, his clues about what happened, he just. He has made his own interpretation of, like, what happened.
Speaker A:But so everyone has. Because they are all working on this. This. This view. Information, this understanding that isn't correct because they don't have all the information.
And that's what anyone does with gossip. Right?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:So Sirius goes. And who finds him? Peter Pettigrew. What actually happens is Sirius finds Peter Petty.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Right. And he's like, I'm about to take you out. Both of us are going out. This. Right. I'm gonna kill you.
And I'm sure Voldemort's gonna send Someone to kill me, but I don't care. I got you. But Peter Pettigrew had something for him because he was the rat all along. And we knew it back in school when he became a rat as Animagus.
But whatever. Anyway, so all along.
Speaker D:Oh, sorry.
Speaker A:So he says. And Peter Pettigrew sets him up so perfectly he says, lily and James, Serious? How could you?
They get this quote from the Muggles who are all around there to be the witnesses before they're all Obliviated. Right? Right. And then Peter reaches for his wand but Sirius casts his first. And there's a huge explosion.
Speaker B:Quick on the draw, baby. And the explosion happens. And as we know, this became a rat real quick.
Speaker A:And then, like, he became a rat and left a finger behind, right?
Speaker B:And they're like. And they're like. Well. And then they're like, oh, what happened to Peter Pettigrew and Cornell? Well, we found what was left of.
Speaker A:Him but we found pieces and a blood soaked, choked robe.
Speaker B:And they're like, damn.
Speaker A:And Sirius there, laughing maniacally like this.
Speaker B:I know he ain't dead.
Speaker A:I know he had a psychotic break and he's acting maniacally. So they sent 20 wizard cops to collect Sirius to take him to Azkaban.
And they gave Peter Pettigrew an order of Merlin for attempting to take out serious black. Even though, as McGonagall says, he was never on their level, honey. He just never was.
Speaker B:And so we.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker B:That's the end of the chapter, right? Because.
Speaker A:Hold on, hold on, hold on. One thing I want to know. I want everyone to take note. Fudge says on his last inspection at Azkaban, he goes and sees Sirius.
Speaker B:He chill.
Speaker A:Being in. Being in Azkaban that long, you. He should be delirious. He should be reduced to nothing. He was perfectly fine. Logical.
Cucumber, because he's a cucumber. And he asked for his newspaper because he liked to do the crosswords. Now, what article was in the newspaper at the beginning? As we know.
Speaker B:As we know. As we know the Weasleys went on.
Speaker C:A trip, you know.
Speaker A:They sure did.
Speaker B:And there was a little picture in there. He looking at picture, like. Wait a minute.
Speaker A:Sure was.
Speaker B:Wait a minute.
Speaker A:Who was in the picture?
Speaker B:Hold on, hold on. Is that. Is that a way. Is that who I see it to be? That look like that. No rat like Peter Pettic Crew.
And then that's when he's like, I'mma go finish what I started. I now know where you at, my guy. I Am on my way. I'm on my way.
Speaker A:And what did they say he was repeating the last time he was at Akaban? He's at Hogwarts because he's like I'm.
Speaker B:On my way to come get this.
Speaker A:So they all think he's coming out to look for Voldemort. I also want to point out that Fudge at this point admits Voldemort's out there and that Sirius is trying to reconnect with him. That will come.
No, no, no. He. He admits that he's out there trying to reconnect with Voldemort. That will come back again in a couple of books. But that's the end of chapter 10.
Speaker B:Yeah. Full strength.
Speaker A:But he knows Voldemort's out there and that he's, he's available to come back. I just want to make sure we all keep that in our minds.
Speaker B:Of course we all aware of this books. We've seen them twice already.
Speaker A:What is this? Chapter 10? Book 3. Admits that Voldemort's out there serious to reconnect with. And we'll, we'll revisit that in a couple of books.
But that's the end of chapter 10 of chapter 10.
Speaker B:And so with all of that like we serious is getting a bad rap here.
Speaker A:The stories set up perfectly the, the.
Speaker B:Folklore pedigrew got him. He like, like this is a big got him. Right? This is. Pettigrew got him. He knew how to make these moves.
Not nearly as talented as James or Sirius, but he knew how to make the moves. But today I want us to get in on a werewolves. Right? So we heard about werewolves a little bit earlier. Let's.
Let's dig in deep on werewolves because they deserve some justice. In here we have Snape out here doing some Snape where he's trying to like had all the kids look into it. Because we move to the end of the book.
He like. And he shames the kids for not knowing more about werewolves because he's trying to get them onto looping scent. Trying to like have some about him.
Being a werewolf is not something you choose, man.
Speaker A:This is correct. Being a world, no one chooses it.
Speaker C:Yeah. You have to be bitten by a werewolf to become a werewolf. And that's the thing. Werewolf bites. Bites you can die. So people have to save you.
Like they have to put powdered silver and essence of dittany on the bite to seal the bite. Which means it takes work to save you. And then after that you're othered when you Go to the Ministry of Magic to deal with your werewolf shit.
They don't know if you're a beast or a being, which means you may or may not be a person. You get treated very poorly as a werewolf. And Snape is out there just putting his prejudices on full display towards Lupin.
And Lupin's got a hard life.
Speaker B:It ain't easy to be in a werewolf out here. You didn't choose this for him, as we know. We come to find out later on in the book Fenra Grayback. So dude, we're gonna find out later.
He chose to make this kid when he was a kid. He chose to make him a werewolf because he was like that kid and he. Like that kid.
Speaker A:No, no, no. As revenge against his father, whatever. He was trying to get werewolf legislation into passing. So he has revenge, attacked him.
Speaker B:I want to make his kid a werewolf. See how he feel about it. See how he like it. Because female Greyback sucks. We'll talk about him later.
But when you're a werewolf, it's not something that you choose to be. You weren't even born this way. Someone did this to you. It's an affliction.
Speaker C:And then once you are in the community, the Ministry of Magic wants you to register as a werewolf wolf so that you can promise not to attack humans.
However, if you, if you admit to being a werewolf, can't find a job, people won't marry you because they're afraid that your werewolfism will pass through sex. Because they don't know how this works. Like, you were basically ostracized for life by being a werewolf.
It's why the werewolves side with Voldemort it during the Second Wizard War. Because they want better treatment than what they currently get. Going with. Voldemort isn't better. As we see with Grayback.
He's not allowed to have the Dark Mark. They still talk down to him. He's still viewed as less than. He's just one of them because he's a bad werewolf.
Speaker D:What would you liken that to in like modern day, I guess. Or not necessarily modern day, but maybe in the past hundred years here.
Speaker C:I mean, it's guilty by association. It's like after 9, 11, when everyone was going after the Muslims.
Speaker A:Oh damn. Oh damn. Yeah.
Speaker C:And they're less than. They're not allowed into places. I mean, like, you see it all the time. We can go back through history.
World War II, you have Japanese internment where it's like you're guilty by association just because you look like Our enemy.
Speaker D:I thought about it in relation to, like, people who have felonies on their record, you know, or different things of, like, you know, you can't. You can't function in society. You can't apply for apartments. You can't apply for certain jobs.
You, you know, at one point, I think it was still a question on financial aid forms for federal financial aid. You know, if you, you know, mark this. If you had a drug convention, what does it have to do with me wanting to go to school?
Speaker C:And that's the thing. Lupin couldn't even go to school if it wasn't for Dumbledore. Which means that other werewolves aren't getting an education.
Dumbledore went and put the precautions in for him to be able to go to the school.
Speaker A:I mean, they call the Shrieking Shack the Shrieking Shack because of Lupin's monthly streaks when he had to do his transformations.
Like, people think it's haunted because of all the screaming, but it was really the pain that Lupin had to go through each month while he was a werewolf.
Speaker C:And then people who are werewolves tend to age quicker because of the stress on their body and their mind. Because, remember, when you're a werewolf, you don't keep your faculties, right? You go full wolf form and you're super aggressive and you're.
You'll attack your best friend. And this wolfsbane potion that they talk about helps you keep your mental faculty.
So Lupin goes from, you know, the Shrieking Shack screaming, attacking himself because he doesn't have the Wolfbane potion when he's a student to when he's an adult, he takes it.
And we see later on when he's talking in the book, he says that he can take the potion and then he can just sit in his office and he's basically a sleepy wolf that doesn't do anything.
Speaker D:Do we think that if they hadn't immediately rolled into, like, a war with Voldemort, was Lupin a test case? And, like, seeing that we successfully got him from years one through seven, maybe Dumbledore would have opened.
Opened it up so that other werewolf, you know, children could attend or whatever. But, you know, then all the drama happened, so he couldn't do that. But you, you would think he figured if he'd done one, he could do more.
Speaker C:Well, you would think, but there's so much prejudice against werewolves that no one is willing to send their students there or their kids there because they're afraid. You know, werewolf students there, it's not safe, blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah.
And then you also look at the fact that werewolves can't get a job, so they don't have any money. And making the Wolf Spain potion is super expensive, so you can't.
You don't have access to the one medical thing that can actually help you with your condition.
Speaker B:There needs to be a Medicaid for werewolves. You know what I'm saying? There needs to be some kind of program in the wizarding world that can help werewolves.
Speaker C:Speaking of the Wolf Spade Potion, so I pulled up the brewing instructions because they talk about it being very difficult to make. So I'm gonna read you the directions and why it's so expensive. All right, so, number one. One, add 17 leaves of the wolfsbane plant to the cauldron.
Two, put in the juice of two mandrake leaves. Three, add three drops of dragon blood.
Speaker A:And we know mandrakes, they have to be fully grown, right?
Speaker C:Yeah, mandrakes have to be fully grown. You need dragon blood. Number four, control the precise temperature at the right time. Number five, add one powdered moonstone, also expensive.
Number six, stir thrice clockwise. Number seven. Put in two drops of the syrup of hellebore. Number eight, add three murtlap tentacles. Number nine, maintain a medium temperature.
Number ten, add the juice of seven Sofros beans, one at a time. Number eleven, reduce heat to a low temperature. Number twelve, gently crush an Occamy egg and sprinkle it into the cauldron. Number 13, wave a wand.
Wand. Stir six times anti clockwise and wave a wand for a second time. That's how you make the potion. Shit's work. And it's expensive.
Speaker B:Well, here's my question. Why. Why is there no synthetic version of Full Spain? Why have no one gotten down and, like, figured out a way?
Speaker A:Well, this goes back to it, right? People. People view werewolves as a problem.
Like, you don't go and search for a cure for something where you feel like the person kind of deserves what they get, right? Right. They. There's this negative light on them. This is negative connotation to werewolves. And like CJ said, no one is a werewolf by choice.
You only are made a werewolf. So I. I feel like they are adding all these negative feelings towards people because it is such a severe reaction, right? You lose your faculties.
You lose yourself, and you can really harm and hurt people. And if you don't get a chance to hurt someone, you start hurting yourself, yourself. So it's such a severe thing.
And so, of course, people fear it, and they add this negative feeling sort of so it's hard to create a wolfsbane potion when, you know, everyone's like, why should we put time into that? Right? Yeah.
Speaker D:They don't deserve it.
Speaker A:They get what they deserve. They're werewolves. But it's like, they. They didn't deserve that. Lupin didn't deserve to be a werewolf. Werewolf.
He was attacked as a child, and that was.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker C:And as terrible a dude as Fenrir Greyback is, that's his whole point. And the reason he's trying to turn children is to make werewolves more common so that, you know, people are willing to deal with the problem. Which.
Insane. Don't condone the methods. No, but the dude has a point.
Speaker B:Oh, my God. Are you a Fenrir Grayback sympathizer?
Speaker C:I. I have more sympathy for him than for Ron being a dumbass.
Speaker B:Oh, wow. Whoa.
Speaker A:Shots. Fire.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker B:A friend re Grayback sympathizer. Whoa. Here, here. See?
Speaker D:Even I don't go that far. That's something you don't hear every day.
Speaker B:You said that the mentors need justice. I don't want to hear from you.
Speaker D:But they're just doing their job.
Speaker B:Ultimately, do you feel like werewolves deserve justice? Let us know in the comments and at justice for DT podcast on all social media and we'll talk about it down the road. Thank you all for joining us.
You can find CJ at Keyboard Sarcasm. You can find Shantay at the Villain Shantay on Instagram, and you can find Natasha at Hermione.
Underscore Danger with the three instead of the E for Hermione. You can find me at KG Fury. Thank you guys for joining us.
We will be getting into the next couple chapters in a couple weeks, so make sure you're about back to listen in on that. Have a good night. Course adjourn. Goodbye.