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Leading for Change: Rhian Evans Allvin and Mark Ginsberg
Episode 118th March 2026 • Small Talk: Big Ideas About Little Learners • NAEYC
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Three NAEYC CEOs, spanning 25 years of leadership, reflect on what it means to lead the early childhood education field through periods of upheaval, uncertainty, and change. As NAEYC kicks off its centennial year, CEO Michelle Kang sits down with two of her predecessors to talk about where the early learning field has been and where we are going.

Host: Michelle Kang, NAEYC CEO

Guests:

  1. Mark Ginsberg, President, Towson University (NAEYC CEO 1999--2010)
  2. Rhian Evans Allvin, Founder, Brynmor Early Education & Preschool (NAEYC CEO 2013--2022)

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