It's our Atlanta!

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Welcome to Clover club, everybody.

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This is your host, Erica.

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And, I have a quick announcement

before we start today's episode.

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Last episode was our producer

Kelly's last episode.

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So we want to thank her for her creative

input on the Clover club, adventure and

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wish her well on her future endeavors.

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, and so,

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Thank you, Kelly..

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Okay I'm super excited

about today's episode.

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I am sitting at the taco

bell table right now with my

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delightful friend, Blake Schultz.

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The creator of it's our Atlanta.

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And hi.

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Hello.

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How are you?

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I'm so wonderful.

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Blake, how are you doing great on this?

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Oh, I can't remember what day it is.

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You know, I think both of us

have had those last two weeks.

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So, , that is accurate.

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That is a completely accurate.

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So Blake, there are so many things

that I'm excited to talk about

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with you on this episode and to

share with all of our listeners.

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But I thought that we could kick things

off with a story that really bonded us.

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Yes.

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So.

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Blake.

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And I were hanging out recently and

I told Blake a story that took place

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in an area that he's familiar with.

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And if you've lived in Atlanta for a

long time, you may know this story.

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, So Blake, I want to tell the story just

again, like I'm telling it to you and then

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I want to wait for the end, for the part

where you added like a very important.

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, Yes details.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So.

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Years and years and years ago, I worked

at a salon, , in Midtown and, , Something

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crazy happened across the street.

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And I heard about this crazy story

from two people who lived at the

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place that it happened, who heard

it from the maintenance person at

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the building that this happened at.

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So.

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Reliable sources.

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Reliable, super reliable sources.

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, alright.

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There were two gay men who were a couple.

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Who lived in an apartment.

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And in this apartment, they filmed porns

lots and lots and lots and lots of.

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Importance.

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The way you're making it.

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Polaro porn.

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, I just need to like emphasize that

there's like a lot of sex that happened

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in this apartment with lots of men.

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, so one day one of the partners gets

diagnosed with HIV and he's like, fuck.

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And then the other partner gets

diagnosed with HIV and he's like, fuck.

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So they're like, We've been

having unprotected sex with.

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Tons of people in all of these porns.

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, How many people could we have

infected, like holy shit.

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We can't live with ourselves.

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So they make the dramatic step

to decide to end their lives.

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So.

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They go to ACE hardware like you do, and

they buy, do we need to add some sort of

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like, , trigger warning, trigger warning.

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I'm like we just placed

into trigger warnings.

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Trigger warning.

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HIV trigger warning.

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This story has a lot.

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So, Skip forward.

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You know, Five minutes.

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If this is too much.

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I hope so.

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I have an earlier episode that

I don't think, you know, Blake,

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, that is about , armed robbery.

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Okay.

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, And I tell it laughing the whole time.

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And I hope that just like my

buildup now, people hear my.

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I mean, this is how we were when

you were telling me there's.

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I mean, other than my face

has been in pure shock.

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Again, laughing through the

entire telling of the story.

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So it is a horrific story, but it is

also, well, I mean, I'll let the listener

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decide, but you're you're correct.

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Thank you, Blake trigger warning.

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If you think you might be sensitive

to anything that's coming next.

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The next part.

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Oh, yeah.

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Trigger warning, blood.

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So much blood.

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Bloods important.

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Oh, God.

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Okay.

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So these guys.

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Go to ACE hardware and

they buy a circular saw.

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They go back to their apartment and they

write a letter to their property manager.

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And that they say, Hey, like we

are going to take our own lives.

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You're going to want to call 9 1 1.

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Send up a cleanup crew and

they drop it in the mail slot.

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And, , they go upstairs.

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And I don't know this part.

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But I would like to think they

hopefully at least have like a drink.

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And then.

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The important part.

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I need one for what's coming next.

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, so one.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The bottle bottle a hundred percent.

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Yes.

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So they turn on the circular saw

and one of the gentleman's saws

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off the arm of the other partner.

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And then that partner.

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So I was off the arm of the other partner

and then that partner saws off the arm.

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His last arm of that partner.

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And then they're like, fuck, we've got

an extra arm and we can't sell it off

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because I'm armless somewhere in there.

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They also did the legs

before getting into the arms.

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I believe.

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I thought it was, I

thought it was three limbs.

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Yeah.

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Three arms.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Three arms.

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There's no.

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You're the one warning people about

a trigger and you're like, legs.

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Do.

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Everything must go.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So we've got three arms on

the floor, lots of blood.

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We've got a remaining arm and a poor plan.

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And these dudes presumably.

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Collapsed from blood loss.

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Their apartment fills us blood.

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And then the next morning comes where

the property manager comes to work.

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And sees this letter.

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And she's like, what type

of sick joke is this?

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So she says to the maintenance

guy, like, Hey, can you go up

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to unit, whatever, whatever.

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And just , check on this.

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I'm sure it's nothing.

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So the guy goes up and

he knocks on the door.

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No response.

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He knocks on the door, no response.

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He knocks on the door.

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I am entering no response.

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He opens the door.

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And it's a blood bath.

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He sees the most horrific.

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Insane.

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Scene.

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I mean, nobody could have

predicted this, like insane.

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Wait to offer yourself.

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And.

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So he's like, oh shit, this is legit.

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So they call nine 11 of course, and a.

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The way I told the story to Blake was.

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These dudes are dead.

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There's blood everywhere.

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And they, you know, Um, hazmat.

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That's so funny, like.

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We're not mad.

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Hazmat.

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Yeah, they have to clear

out the building.

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Did we, did we clarify that

this was, um, the fourth floor?

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The top floor?

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. Yeah.

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So I believe there was some like

blood drippage to lower units.

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Correct.

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I didn't get that in the story.

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This is through you.

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Articulated that you're, you're the one.

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The sources here.

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Okay.

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That is true.

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That's super reliable ones.

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, I believe that that was the case.

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, maybe it was, you know, even if not like.

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If there's insulation

or anything, like, yeah.

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Gross.

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Um, so why did you just.

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I was just, I wanted to people

to know what the insulation

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setting up the blood sounded like.

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So anyways.

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I tell Blake the story.

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And then the next day you

sent me a very important text.

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Aye.

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Anytime.

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I hear like first off,

I'm a nerd like that.

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When I hear a story, I just go and

deep dive into these things and.

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Yeah.

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So I dove in, there's

not a lot of stories.

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, the AJC article no longer exists.

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Like it's still.

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You can click on and Google within it.

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Oh, this web page no longer exists.

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But Fox news still had an article

up, so I'm not my typical.

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New source, but, , same.

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Yeah.

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They were alive.

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Oh, my God.

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I don't know what time they decided,

you know, if neighbor, you know, did

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they do it rolling off the neighbors?

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Didn't get mad about a

saw going off, who knows?

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But it's a good question.

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Right?

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Like, unless they're just no neighbors.

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We're so used to all the

noise from the, , the porins.

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Plural.

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I.

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So, yes.

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So Blake, you sent me a link to

this article where yes, these men

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are alive and they were rushed to

Grady and they were somehow saved.

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And then also spent some

time at the psychiatric ward.

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Yeah.

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Came checked out, getting checked out.

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But now they're just alive and armless.

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I have not out in the world.

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You know, I should have gone in dug

through Reddit or whatever sources.

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And you do that.

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I started to the other day and

then my ADHD brain just play.

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I was onto my next topic.

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Sorry.

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No, you did.

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You did a solid just by literally

taking the five seconds to Google it.

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I'm still like, imagining, like,

you know, who knows if they're still

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together, but you know, Or if, you

know, here we are, 14 years later.

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10 years later.

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We're still alive.

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You know, one of these guys

just walking around with like,

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Um, people being stared at with no idea

what crazy story a is connected to it.

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, do you think they're still together?

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Reddit, I I'm gonna have to come back now.

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We're going to leave everybody

on the G a giant cliffhanger.

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Well, you know, our listeners have.

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Do you ever give homework assignments?

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I feel like this is a

podcast homework assignment.

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Oh my God.

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Bleak.

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Yes, I give homework

assignments starting now.

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So if you're listening and you are

also captivated and amused by this

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wild story, you should Google it.

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Let us know.

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At us.

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At us, we want to know, but also,

or too easily distracted, too.

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I've done the research ourselves.

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Yeah.

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We have done the legwork.

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I think we've brought a lot

of solid content to the table.

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Now it's time to hand it

over fresh to people's minds.

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I'm a collaborator is the thing.

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And so who am I to take over

all of the research, right?

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That would just be so completely.

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'cause I'm sure with, yeah.

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I mean, God, we're givers.

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Such givers.

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Okay.

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Well, why she gets her breath back?

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Yeah.

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What other topics were you going to ask

me if I'm just getting actually what's

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going through my mind right now is just,

you know, when I get to share this.

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My mom.

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Loves keeping up with my social media.

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Okay.

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Hi mom.

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My mom too.

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My mum listens.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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, Well, actually, I don't hold back though.

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What was, is one of those things

where it's really fascinating?

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So for some context, I grew up

in a very conservative home, both

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religiously and politically, , politics

doesn't matter, quite as much here.

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But, , I went through this phase.

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Not that I've really outgrown it

where I'm still connected with

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a lot of my, , parents, friends

on Facebook in particular.

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Okay.

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, I'm also a little bit of an instigator.

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, and so.

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It really started probably back in 2016.

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We're just like every other

month, every three months.

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Like I would just post something

that was completely spot on.

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I just knew.

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We get underneath some people's skin.

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, and yeah.

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, through that process, my mom no

longer engages with any, anything

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on my Facebook, unless it's

just like some of my landscape,

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, photography or something like that.

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Okay.

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, despite her still like wishing happy

birthday to like my high school

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girlfriends and stuff on Facebook.

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I'm like, oh, okay.

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Cool.

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Cool.

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Cool.

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I haven't talked to.

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The old high school girlfriend

and however many years, and

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you're wishing her happy birthday.

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So don't bring her up, but like not

go even like engage with my non,

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, investigative social media posts.

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And yes, I am 29 and still on Facebook.

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Okay.

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Are you regularly on Facebook?

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Or just when you get like a

notification, mostly when I get

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notifications, , that's allowed also

kind of drives me crazy and this may

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be a good segue, but there are a few.

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Atlanta, uh, account.

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That their only social media

presence is on Facebook.

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That's wild and they have

a much older audience.

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And so.

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Getting into more of a, you know,

my page and stuff like that.

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I'm like, okay.

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I need to, , get this in

front of some of these people.

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So I'm on Facebook far more

than I would like to be.

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, but.

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I am there so well, we

won't judge you too much.

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It's okay.

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Well, Blake.

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Okay.

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So you have created this page.

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About Atlanta.

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When did you start this?

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Uh, End of June early July.

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So it's, it's only a few months old.

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Okay.

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Tell me, what did, what

was the impetus for this?

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, well, it's a few things.

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My background is marketing.

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So marketing storytelling.

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, convincing people of ideas and

instigating them to action.

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, those are all things that

are always going in my mind.

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Hello.

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That is the, uh, you know, my

vantage point on a lot of life.

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And so.

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I've had ideas boiling of

like, how do I get people more

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involved or more interested in

what's happening in the city?

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Just in Atlanta alone, there's so

many history accounts and, , you

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know, Yeah, just a lot of accounts

with really important information,

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but I'm like looking at him like,

okay, you got like 15 likes.

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Yeah.

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Oh, my gosh.

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And it's like, but then, you know,

you're on Tik TOK and somebody.

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Is sharing very similar information,

but they have changed the

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format of what they're telling

and how they're telling it.

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And all of a sudden.

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You know, throw over here with 40,000

views or, you know, Just some little

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viral video and I'm like, okay.

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There's a middle ground here.

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So me as a storyteller, how can I make

this connection of getting more of this

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information in front of the audience and

the people that need to know about it?

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, Wow.

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Like, yeah, just being that

middle, that middle ground.

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, So.

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That was where my thoughts began.

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And I was like, okay, well, I think.

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I like history enough.

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I like urban planning.

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I like urban ism.

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Accessibility, transportation, all

of these things that in my mind,

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all contribute to great cities.

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Yeah.

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, and I was like, I'm going to start

finding ways to tell stories that.

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Takes this information.

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And bundles it up in a way that people

not only are going to listen, but

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they're going to share, they're going

to engage in, it's gonna, , instigate.

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I'm gonna just keep using that word today.

366

: 00:15:13

, them to action or deeper thought.

367

: 00:15:15

, which is really cool.

368

: 00:15:16

I, uh, there was a journalist

who, , he was actually the

369

: 00:15:18

one that was like, Go do this.

370

: 00:15:20

, We chatted.

371

: 00:15:22

I don't know, a month and a half later,

my page had been up for three weeks,

372

: 00:15:25

four weeks or something like that.

373

: 00:15:27

And he was like, I've got a compliment.

374

: 00:15:28

You.

375

: 00:15:29

There's random.

376

: 00:15:30

Alfreda dad.

377

: 00:15:31

Came up to me, just so excited telling

me about, I forget what it was and you

378

: 00:15:36

know, something about transportation.

379

: 00:15:38

He was like, you've got

to fold this account.

380

: 00:15:39

You wouldn't like, this is so

crazy that this happened, or like,

381

: 00:15:43

you know, That Atlanta used to

have 200 miles of street cars.

382

: 00:15:47

You know, whatever the story was,

it was something related to that.

383

: 00:15:50

, and he was like, it was your page.

384

: 00:15:52

And this guy has never once, like,

even though we've been friends and

385

: 00:15:55

this is something that I talk about

as journalists all the time, he has

386

: 00:15:57

never once shown any interest in this.

387

: 00:15:59

And all of a sudden now he's like,

Astatic about telling me this information

388

: 00:16:03

all because he saw one of your videos

and he's wanting me to make sure I

389

: 00:16:06

followed it, you know, your account.

390

: 00:16:07

And I was like, okay.

391

: 00:16:08

Wow, I'm doing what I need to do because

I'm telling the stories that people

392

: 00:16:12

are able to listen to engage with.

393

: 00:16:15

, I try to tell it in ways

that set really strong hooks.

394

: 00:16:18

, so I, I rely very heavily on my story

structuring, , far more than just, , you

395

: 00:16:24

know, here's the correct information.

396

: 00:16:27

And that's been one of the hard things.

397

: 00:16:28

, you know, I've had organizations

that have wanted to work

398

: 00:16:30

with me and things like that.

399

: 00:16:32

And.

400

: 00:16:33

I mean, this goes back to a lot

of the marketing consulting.

401

: 00:16:35

I do.

402

: 00:16:35

A lot of times you were like,

oh, this information, we

403

: 00:16:37

need all of this packed in.

404

: 00:16:38

I'm like you have 90 seconds

to keep somebody's attention.

405

: 00:16:41

Yeah.

406

: 00:16:42

I need your top two priorities

of this information and alone.

407

: 00:16:45

I have to, you know, find

the whole, the story.

408

: 00:16:46

I can catch people in.

409

: 00:16:48

So a little bit of a tangent there,

but it doesn't, that is, , the, what

410

: 00:16:51

kind of got me into the page and it's

all stuff that's super important to me.

411

: 00:16:55

And it's all, I'm just out

here trying to educate people.

412

: 00:16:58

Uh, I like to say.

413

: 00:16:59

That my page talks about where Atlanta

was, where it is now and where it can go.

414

: 00:17:05

, and so telling stories

about where it's been.

415

: 00:17:08

Well, I am extremely inspired and

interested in everything that you share.

416

: 00:17:12

And I think a lot of people that

set out on a venture, like what

417

: 00:17:15

you just described, also share that

intention of I'm going to do it right.

418

: 00:17:19

And I'm going to grow it like this.

419

: 00:17:21

And I can use myself as a good example.

420

: 00:17:23

I.

421

: 00:17:24

I think I'm a wonderful storyteller.

422

: 00:17:25

I love telling stories and people

like listening to my stories

423

: 00:17:28

and I do that on this podcast.

424

: 00:17:31

And we have like a hundred

followers, I'm really bad at

425

: 00:17:34

translating that to social media.

426

: 00:17:37

And so it's really impressive that

not only did you set out to do that,

427

: 00:17:39

but I think Blake, you have what,

like 15,000 followers on Instagram.

428

: 00:17:42

Yeah, I just passed

that a week or two ago.

429

: 00:17:44

Seen for an account you just started.

430

: 00:17:46

Yeah.

431

: 00:17:47

Like, this is wild.

432

: 00:17:48

Yeah.

433

: 00:17:48

It's super cool.

434

: 00:17:50

Some of it, you know, I think

it's all a little bit of luck.

435

: 00:17:52

Some of it I think is, well, again, going

back to the storytelling, I think that's

436

: 00:17:56

a hard part is especially social media

is so often, you have to have something

437

: 00:18:00

that almost has like a shock value to it.

438

: 00:18:03

Sometimes.

439

: 00:18:04

Arm's getting cut off.

440

: 00:18:04

Right.

441

: 00:18:06

Watch this episode be

your most watched episode.

442

: 00:18:10

Oh, my God.

443

: 00:18:11

Petition.

444

: 00:18:12

Actually there's.

445

: 00:18:13

I have a path guest, Keith pepper, who

is extremely competitive and he holds

446

: 00:18:19

the top ring for the most downloaded.

447

: 00:18:21

Episodes.

448

: 00:18:22

Ah, you hear this?

449

: 00:18:23

Keith, he listens.

450

: 00:18:25

Oh, this thing's about to

blast it all over my social.

451

: 00:18:27

It's not even going to

be our Atlanta anymore.

452

: 00:18:29

It's going to be a.

453

: 00:18:32

Just give me posts.

454

: 00:18:35

Hey, don't.

455

: 00:18:36

, tease me with a good time.

456

: 00:18:38

No comment.

457

: 00:18:41

, Blake.

458

: 00:18:42

I also think you'd benefit

from being really cute.

459

: 00:18:44

Like that has to play

into things on your page.

460

: 00:18:47

Aye.

461

: 00:18:48

Like, I think you're just like a

nice vessel for this information.

462

: 00:18:51

I don't think you're wrong in a night.

463

: 00:18:53

Like, Obviously you have to

be somewhat conscious of that.

464

: 00:18:56

, do you.

465

: 00:18:59

I mean, yeah, because some of the

pages that are out here telling very

466

: 00:19:03

similar stories are, you know, black

women and it's like, okay, why.

467

: 00:19:07

That is a solid, okay.

468

: 00:19:09

Why.

469

: 00:19:10

Like, why are these pages

not getting the attention?

470

: 00:19:12

My page kids.

471

: 00:19:13

, and so like, There's just like

understanding of the privilege that

472

: 00:19:18

I have, the space that I occupy.

473

: 00:19:20

, you know, I come across as a very,

, you know, savvy, , , young business

474

: 00:19:24

professional, , you know, Thanks,

mom and dad for the great smile.

475

: 00:19:28

, you know, shiny blue eyes, like.

476

: 00:19:31

Like, of course, I'm going to have

to be somewhat conscious of that.

477

: 00:19:33

Put.

478

: 00:19:33

But like, I have to be conscious

in a way of, , when I have the

479

: 00:19:36

opportunity to elevate others,

that I have to lean into that.

480

: 00:19:40

, and that's something just for me

personally, with this page and, and

481

: 00:19:43

just, you know, some of my other

projects, , there's been times where it's

482

: 00:19:46

like, oh, I need a damp in myself to

elevate others, but it's like, no, no.

483

: 00:19:50

We all have to bring our best

and false version of ourselves.

484

: 00:19:53

, But in doing so make like.

485

: 00:19:56

The stage is big enough for all of us.

486

: 00:19:58

Yes.

487

: 00:19:58

And so like there's

room for me to be shiny.

488

: 00:20:02

My brightest.

489

: 00:20:03

While also making sure that the.

490

: 00:20:05

The others that are around me are getting

their opportunity to shine bright.

491

: 00:20:09

And then I'm using some of them, you

know, my opportunities due to give

492

: 00:20:13

opportunity like, Hey, look at these other

people that are on the same stage as me.

493

: 00:20:16

You know, and I've got some ideas

and thoughts going through my mind

494

: 00:20:19

right now, most of it is community

focused of I'm just trying to connect.

495

: 00:20:23

, some of these other people

too, to more resources.

496

: 00:20:26

, but yeah, there's that.

497

: 00:20:27

That's kind of like the.

498

: 00:20:28

The backside, the underside of all of

this is, , some of the opportunities

499

: 00:20:31

that have opened up for me, , because

of the page and its influence.

500

: 00:20:36

I think that when you're on to

something that is, uh, , I don't

501

: 00:20:40

know if look divinely inspired.

502

: 00:20:42

Is that, does that resonate with you?

503

: 00:20:43

Take that.

504

: 00:20:44

Okay.

505

: 00:20:44

Yeah, I think that.

506

: 00:20:46

When you're in that kind of flow state.

507

: 00:20:49

The, uh, Support just comes

you attract these right.

508

: 00:20:53

You make your own luck.

509

: 00:20:54

Yeah.

510

: 00:20:55

, and it sounds like you're

doing a good job of that.

511

: 00:20:57

Well, in some of my

favorite people in Atlanta.

512

: 00:21:00

Uh, there's so much to

be said about showing up.

513

: 00:21:03

In a space.

514

: 00:21:04

And not asking for anything.

515

: 00:21:06

When you show up authentically.

516

: 00:21:08

people, people see like, People

who come with their own angle.

517

: 00:21:12

You just immediately.

518

: 00:21:13

You know, whether it's

you want to call it.

519

: 00:21:14

Your alarm system, the

walls, like whatever.

520

: 00:21:16

And you're like, this person

is here for some other reason.

521

: 00:21:20

Yeah.

522

: 00:21:20

And that's, and, and people have

asked me about like monetizing my

523

: 00:21:23

page and I'm like, I'm so against it.

524

: 00:21:24

Like maybe merge or something like

one, one day just to compensate the

525

: 00:21:28

hours I put into all my research

and storytelling and all that.

526

: 00:21:31

But I don't want to, , make it a

moneymaker for myself because right now

527

: 00:21:35

I get to tell such authentic stories.

528

: 00:21:36

I don't have to take anything

else into consideration and I

529

: 00:21:39

get to show up in spaces just

because , I want Atlanta better.

530

: 00:21:43

And like how, like you can't

really criticize that you

531

: 00:21:46

can, that is criticized proof.

532

: 00:21:48

Like criticism proof.

533

: 00:21:50

And this is one of the, you know, I get so

much conversation going on my videos and.

534

: 00:21:55

What I wish I could tell more people like.

535

: 00:21:58

I hear you.

536

: 00:21:59

But the credibility

behind what you're saying.

537

: 00:22:02

He is not going to be

there until I see action.

538

: 00:22:04

Uh, like if you a hundred percent

can only leave social media

539

: 00:22:08

posts, then I can only take.

540

: 00:22:10

Your comment for what it's worth.

541

: 00:22:12

Yeah.

542

: 00:22:13

Like India.

543

: 00:22:14

Most of the times, like, are

you even aware of like the

544

: 00:22:16

systems of power and Atlanta?

545

: 00:22:18

Like it, and that is again, going back

to like one of the purposes of my page.

546

: 00:22:21

Like I'm trying to, , make the on-ramp.

547

: 00:22:24

To involvement, easier.

548

: 00:22:26

I want to remove as many barriers as

possible, which is why I'm trying to get

549

: 00:22:30

some more community aspects involved.

550

: 00:22:32

But you know, when people.

551

: 00:22:33

City council MPUs anything like

that of power structures in

552

: 00:22:37

Atlanta, like isn't intimidating.

553

: 00:22:39

Like that's where influence

and decisions are being made.

554

: 00:22:41

, but if people like sharing, showing up to

an MPU meeting or a city council meeting

555

: 00:22:46

by herself, No, one's going to do that.

556

: 00:22:49

Very intimidating.

557

: 00:22:49

But if like, there was like a cool dude,

it's like, Hey, we're going to go there.

558

: 00:22:53

And then we're all going

to go get beers after.

559

: 00:22:55

Yeah.

560

: 00:22:55

You're like, oh, okay.

561

: 00:22:56

Like there's some, you know,

I know who this person sort of

562

: 00:22:59

is like we're meeting before.

563

: 00:23:01

Like now the barriers are a little

bit lower and it's like, okay,

564

: 00:23:03

like there's no expectations.

565

: 00:23:04

I'm literally just sitting in

a room and getting to listen.

566

: 00:23:07

But now we've just knocked down

a couple of barriers, , to

567

: 00:23:10

be more involved in the city.

568

: 00:23:12

I really enjoy that.

569

: 00:23:13

You're mentioning this because

we had a past episode with my

570

: 00:23:16

friend, Jenny Lynn, redder, who I

have got to introduce you to you.

571

: 00:23:19

, but she's a landscape architect.

572

: 00:23:20

He's very passionate about

our city and urban planning.

573

: 00:23:24

And we talked at the end of that

episode about how important it

574

: 00:23:27

is to be involved in your city.

575

: 00:23:29

That episode is where I learned what

an NPU was, neighborhood planning unit.

576

: 00:23:32

, and she, you know, we shared links of

like, how do you find these things?

577

: 00:23:35

I'm like, how do you get involved?

578

: 00:23:37

Right.

579

: 00:23:37

Because I think that

there is this barrier.

580

: 00:23:39

, between running your mouth and

then putting action behind.

581

: 00:23:43

Everyone feels entitled to an opinion.

582

: 00:23:46

And, uh, to a certain extent, we all

should have a little bit if it's our city.

583

: 00:23:50

Yeah.

584

: 00:23:50

But if you're not willing to

vote, to donate, to show up and

585

: 00:23:54

to actually put in the legwork to.

586

: 00:23:56

Impact change.

587

: 00:23:57

Well, and here's the thing is I,

sometimes I think people don't realize.

588

: 00:24:01

If you look at the voter turnout

for past presidential election.

589

: 00:24:05

Massive turnout across Georgia.

590

: 00:24:07

But then you look at local elections.

591

: 00:24:09

Yep.

592

: 00:24:09

It's horrific.

593

: 00:24:11

It's embarrassing.

594

: 00:24:12

Like we're talking in the low thousands.

595

: 00:24:15

So the school board, uh,

election just happened.

596

: 00:24:18

Yep.

597

: 00:24:18

Nobody voted it's.

598

: 00:24:23

Um, do we have as.

599

: 00:24:25

It was a week out and only a thousand

people had voted in early voting.

600

: 00:24:29

They were deciding a $1.7 billion budget.

601

: 00:24:34

Twice the size of the city's budget.

602

: 00:24:36

Wow.

603

: 00:24:37

And see people don't know

that and people don't know.

604

: 00:24:39

And, you know, when it comes

to, uh, you know, a lot of the

605

: 00:24:42

structures and decisions and, you

know, are we going to be a more car

606

: 00:24:46

centric, train, you know, public

transportation, all of these things.

607

: 00:24:48

It's all decided on a local level, but

again, like that's a very overwhelming,

608

: 00:24:51

and so in my mind, I'm like, how

do I just smallest percentage.

609

: 00:24:55

If we saw a 10% increase in voter turnout

and turn out to public meetings, if you

610

: 00:25:01

were just paying 10% more attention.

611

: 00:25:04

I don't expect 90% like

that is so unrealistic.

612

: 00:25:07

Yeah.

613

: 00:25:07

Like the city would be wild if

everyone was locked in on what's

614

: 00:25:11

happening in the city for.

615

: 00:25:12

But 10% would be just create 2%.

616

: 00:25:15

I would take that.

617

: 00:25:17

I agree with you.

618

: 00:25:18

And it would make a

massive difference when.

619

: 00:25:20

All of these hot topics , of affordable

housing, public transportation.

620

: 00:25:24

, safety, all those things.

621

: 00:25:27

It takes the smallest, especially

in the city of Atlanta, it takes

622

: 00:25:30

such a small number of people

to make a huge difference , and.

623

: 00:25:34

I want to say that public leaders are

listening, but there are a few instances

624

: 00:25:37

that they have, uh, shown recently

that they're not always listening.

625

: 00:25:40

Oh, listening to their wallet.

626

: 00:25:42

Right, right.

627

: 00:25:43

And that is, uh, you know, all of

those are ways to, uh, create an

628

: 00:25:47

influence that change in the city.

629

: 00:25:49

Absolutely.

630

: 00:25:49

And I think too, we see a lot of

things, you know, everybody has

631

: 00:25:53

a team at the national level.

632

: 00:25:55

No, we know who we're voting for.

633

: 00:25:57

We know who we're not voting for, but

there's also tangentially this complaint

634

: 00:26:01

of the pipeline for new politicians for

new energy, for new blood in the party

635

: 00:26:07

is, and that starts at a local level.

636

: 00:26:09

Like you're not what I just

thought of some tea that

637

: 00:26:11

would just be great for this.

638

: 00:26:13

This podcast.

639

: 00:26:14

Can you share it?

640

: 00:26:15

Yeah, might as well.

641

: 00:26:17

Oh, Okay.

642

: 00:26:19

So, , just since we're gonna hit

on all the wild conversations

643

: 00:26:23

today, cops city, , go V.

644

: 00:26:25

A prominent city council member

who is regarded as one of the.

645

: 00:26:32

He likes to position himself

as a very, , progressive.

646

: 00:26:35

, member of our council.

647

: 00:26:37

Um, Westmoreland.

648

: 00:26:38

, he was getting roasted on social media

after voting and supportive cops city.

649

: 00:26:44

Okay.

650

: 00:26:44

, And I mean, we're talking national

reporters with massive following

651

: 00:26:49

that were like calling him

out, , him and just a few others in

652

: 00:26:53

particular because here they are.

653

: 00:26:55

Trying to present themselves

as very progressive.

654

: 00:26:58

, and all that.

655

: 00:26:59

So.

656

: 00:26:59

He starts replying with his personal

phone number to all of these people.

657

: 00:27:05

Bold me being the person that I am

just immediately saves that number.

658

: 00:27:10

, And he signed him up for

Scientology newsletters.

659

: 00:27:12

Surprise surprise.

660

: 00:27:14

No.

661

: 00:27:15

Um, okay.

662

: 00:27:16

I need no judgment here.

663

: 00:27:18

I do still have a Snapchat.

664

: 00:27:20

Okay.

665

: 00:27:20

Oh, I don't regularly.

666

: 00:27:23

I said it.

667

: 00:27:24

Again, I do not regularly use it.

668

: 00:27:27

It sits there in the

background of my phone.

669

: 00:27:32

Unfortunately, I mean, good or

bad, it sets this, uh, story up.

670

: 00:27:36

Because it was connected to my contacts.

671

: 00:27:38

It just like, oh, you have, you know,

somebody you can add on Snapchat, like

672

: 00:27:41

that notification pops up and I'm.

673

: 00:27:43

I'm like Ray, just swipe away.

674

: 00:27:44

I'm like something catches my eye.

675

: 00:27:45

I'm like why in the world?

676

: 00:27:47

I look as a map.

677

: 00:27:48

Westmoreland.

678

: 00:27:49

And his Snapchat name is POTUS 2036.

679

: 00:27:54

Oh, uh, Like that is bold that

have a social media handle.

680

: 00:28:02

And to not realize how social media works

and that it's like POTUS 20, 30 S cert.

681

: 00:28:07

Well, first off after that vote.

682

: 00:28:09

Yeah done.

683

: 00:28:10

Also the likeliness of being able

to jump from Atlanta city council

684

: 00:28:15

to president by 2036, pretty

audacious loving your confidence.

685

: 00:28:22

I mean, we could just guess off

of this that, you know, he'll

686

: 00:28:25

be making a run for mayor here.

687

: 00:28:27

Uh, probably the next election or two.

688

: 00:28:30

You know, from there.

689

: 00:28:32

Logic, but that also, , you know,

goes into the conversation of how

690

: 00:28:36

many leaders come through Atlanta

that like either they're just trying

691

: 00:28:38

to protect their little neighborhood.

692

: 00:28:40

Or they're just trying to

use as a launching pad.

693

: 00:28:42

I think Atlanta needs a lot

more leaders who, , are wanting.

694

: 00:28:46

At the full picture.

695

: 00:28:48

Atlanta.

696

: 00:28:49

They want to see.

697

: 00:28:50

Atlanta 2050 and a vision to get there.

698

: 00:28:54

, that don't ha you know, aren't

like, they're their stake.

699

: 00:28:58

Their, their goal is.

700

: 00:28:59

To buy in on Atlanta and make it

what it is capable of being while

701

: 00:29:04

keeping the soul of the city alive.

702

: 00:29:06

Fuck.

703

: 00:29:06

Yeah.

704

: 00:29:07

Fuck.

705

: 00:29:08

Yeah.

706

: 00:29:09

, that is a really good T.

707

: 00:29:11

That's interesting.

708

: 00:29:12

Yeah.

709

: 00:29:12

So judge me for Snapchat.

710

: 00:29:14

All you want, but I got tea from it.

711

: 00:29:16

So.

712

: 00:29:17

It led us to this, like a fun FYI.

713

: 00:29:20

Did you snap him?

714

: 00:29:21

I should have just.

715

: 00:29:23

Just randomly.

716

: 00:29:23

Added him or something.

717

: 00:29:25

Not cause I don't want him

off of my personal business.

718

: 00:29:28

I mean.

719

: 00:29:29

I'm a prankster.

720

: 00:29:30

And so my mind immediately goes

to ways that it would be like

721

: 00:29:32

fun to fuck with him, you know?

722

: 00:29:33

Well, I mean, now I

just shared a Snapchat.

723

: 00:29:36

Handle someone else out

here in the podcast world.

724

: 00:29:41

Today, go have some fun.

725

: 00:29:43

Let.

726

: 00:29:43

But, uh, no.

727

: 00:29:45

Well, It is very, very difficult

with political leaders because I have

728

: 00:29:52

such issues with a vote for cop city.

729

: 00:29:55

But then at the same time at

Matt Westmoreland is also the

730

: 00:29:57

one that's been leading the way

for a streets alive coming back.

731

: 00:30:01

I don't know if you've ever gotten.

732

: 00:30:03

, so it was like always this duality.

733

: 00:30:05

With politics where it's absolutely.

734

: 00:30:07

I can not like I despise

you for that vote.

735

: 00:30:10

Yeah, but also like thanks for the work

of bringing the streets alive back.

736

: 00:30:14

So, I mean, that's the tough thing about

the human experience is that nobody's

737

: 00:30:17

a hundred percent anything, right?

738

: 00:30:19

And it's just.

739

: 00:30:21

Is your light brighter than your dark?

740

: 00:30:23

Yeah.

741

: 00:30:23

Is that, how is that?

742

: 00:30:24

How that goes?

743

: 00:30:24

We're gonna, we're gonna roll with it.

744

: 00:30:27

, Okay.

745

: 00:30:27

But in your four seconds as a

very successful Instagram page,

746

: 00:30:33

however, what are the craziest

things you've learned about Atlanta?

747

: 00:30:37

Like, is there one thing

that's gotten a million likes

748

: 00:30:39

where you're like, this is my.

749

: 00:30:42

Um, Well, so I would say the things that.

750

: 00:30:47

Have resonated the most with people

are the things that, , the history

751

: 00:30:51

that people walk over constantly.

752

: 00:30:53

Yes.

753

: 00:30:54

Without realizing it.

754

: 00:30:55

, My first video to really gain

a lot of traction was, a park

755

: 00:31:00

was renamed back in December.

756

: 00:31:01

Okay.

757

: 00:31:02

, it has gone through three

different park names.

758

: 00:31:06

, because first it was a black neighborhood.

759

: 00:31:08

Okay.

760

: 00:31:09

, massive Macedonia park.

761

: 00:31:10

Okay.

762

: 00:31:11

This was been late 18

hundreds, early 19 hundreds.

763

: 00:31:14

And.

764

: 00:31:16

, some of the early white flight into

Buckhead started surrounding, , that area.

765

: 00:31:22

, And so this was before Buckhead

was even a part of Atlanta.

766

: 00:31:25

So.

767

: 00:31:26

It's only Fulton county at that time.

768

: 00:31:28

Fulton county to protect

these new white residents.

769

: 00:31:32

, Penalized the black neighborhood

for being a health risk.

770

: 00:31:36

, And started forcing residents out.

771

: 00:31:39

, under threat of eminent domain.

772

: 00:31:42

And so by 19.

773

: 00:31:47

I should have taken all these notes down.

774

: 00:31:49

Um, mid 1940s, I believe

it was a late: 1940

775

: 00:31:53

, it no longer existed.

776

: 00:31:55

, so what does the city

of Fulton, , do with.

777

: 00:31:59

Black neighborhoods is that, uh,

they have forced to be abandoned.

778

: 00:32:02

They covered them with parks.

779

: 00:32:03

Atlanta is full.

780

: 00:32:05

Of parks.

781

: 00:32:06

That were once black neighborhoods.

782

: 00:32:08

Oh, yes.

783

: 00:32:09

, but this one in particular.

784

: 00:32:11

, really stood out because all

that remains, , are about 12.

785

: 00:32:16

Headstones of some graves.

786

: 00:32:18

Oh, my God.

787

: 00:32:20

Yes.

788

: 00:32:21

And they've been completely

covered in shrubs, , through

789

: 00:32:24

all the early two thousands.

790

: 00:32:26

, and through.

791

: 00:32:27

The work of the Buckhead

historical society.

792

: 00:32:30

And I think some of the, , descendants

of some of those families,

793

: 00:32:35

they discovered that, , and.

794

: 00:32:36

They fought a developer who

was trying to put big money.

795

: 00:32:40

Oh, into removing what was left of.

796

: 00:32:44

And that was even after, , the

organizations had done work and

797

: 00:32:48

I think the estimate there to be.

798

: 00:32:50

Over 25 graves, , in that space.

799

: 00:32:53

And so now, like, There's been some

construction of like trying to make it

800

: 00:32:57

a little more official, , and recognize,

but people visit this park all the time.

801

: 00:33:02

Oh, yeah.

802

: 00:33:03

Once the park was made, it was

named after a local police officer.

803

: 00:33:07

Oh, Then finally through the advocacy,

, they named it after one of the predominant

804

: 00:33:13

black men from the neighborhood.

805

: 00:33:15

Which was what the name was changed to.

806

: 00:33:18

, this past, past December, , But

yeah, it's been kind of an ongoing

807

: 00:33:22

fight against developers of trying

to just protect what's left of that.

808

: 00:33:27

All black neighborhood.

809

: 00:33:28

, so yeah, that story really, , Was my

first video to kind of go mini viral.

810

: 00:33:34

And yeah, it's just, you know, people.

811

: 00:33:37

Or like shocked, cause like,

oh, I walked past that or I

812

: 00:33:40

drive past that all the time.

813

: 00:33:41

I had no idea idea.

814

: 00:33:43

Yeah.

815

: 00:33:44

The other one that really, , got people.

816

: 00:33:46

Anytime you talk about the buildings

that have been erased in Atlanta, that

817

: 00:33:50

always gets a lot of conversation.

818

: 00:33:52

, I did one on the 200

miles of street car track.

819

: 00:33:55

, that used to exist in Atlanta.

820

: 00:33:57

People walk over remnants

of it all the time.

821

: 00:34:01

, and like pawns, , daily on avenue.

822

: 00:34:03

It is so wide because.

823

: 00:34:05

Even up into.

824

: 00:34:08

I can't.

825

: 00:34:08

I think it's the fifties.

826

: 00:34:10

Yeah.

827

: 00:34:10

, is it still had a, , streetcar

track running down the middle of it?

828

: 00:34:14

Oh, wow.

829

: 00:34:15

I live right there and I didn't know that.

830

: 00:34:16

30 feet down the middle.

831

: 00:34:18

Was still the street car.

832

: 00:34:19

And then, so why?

833

: 00:34:20

Because they added 30 feet on

both sides for the right of ways.

834

: 00:34:23

, of the two other directions.

835

: 00:34:25

And they still do construction and

they will still end up hitting.

836

: 00:34:28

, tracks underneath the road

and construction workers

837

: 00:34:31

are always so shocked.

838

: 00:34:32

Like I see video and pictures and stuff,

go and get posted on social media.

839

: 00:34:36

And they're just like, what is this?

840

: 00:34:37

And it's like, oh yeah, Atlanta used

to be a public transportation city.

841

: 00:34:40

So what happened?

842

: 00:34:42

, In short white flight.

843

: 00:34:43

, Georgia power.

844

: 00:34:45

Came into ownership of all

of that: 1920

845

: 00:34:49

. Especially when the trolley

systems began being desegregated.

846

: 00:34:54

And Atlanta.

847

: 00:34:55

, lot more issues as cars

became more predominant.

848

: 00:34:58

That's one of the

neighborhoods, , that love.

849

: 00:35:01

What we now consider

neighborhoods, I'm sorry.

850

: 00:35:03

Coming into existence.

851

: 00:35:04

People could drive.

852

: 00:35:05

, and so all of a sudden, It was harder

for Georgia power to justify street cars.

853

: 00:35:11

So then they went to trolley buses.

854

: 00:35:13

Which in 1954, we Atlanta

had the largest trolley bus.

855

: 00:35:18

Network.

856

: 00:35:19

Uh, in the us.

857

: 00:35:20

The largest fleet.

858

: 00:35:21

Excuse me.

859

: 00:35:22

Yeah, large.

860

: 00:35:23

Then Chicago.

861

: 00:35:24

Wow.

862

: 00:35:25

So, yeah.

863

: 00:35:25

When, when people say that, uh,

Atlanta is a car, city is like

864

: 00:35:28

no, only the last 70 years.

865

: 00:35:30

This is so interesting.

866

: 00:35:32

Yeah.

867

: 00:35:33

Yeah.

868

: 00:35:33

Which drives him.

869

: 00:35:34

Like if you go look up, I believe

it's like a: 1921

870

: 00:35:38

paths and the streetcar routes.

871

: 00:35:41

There was a street car that went

all the way out to stone mountain.

872

: 00:35:43

, one that went all the way up to Buckhead.

873

: 00:35:46

, everything you could ever

wish for essentially.

874

: 00:35:49

, public transportation.

875

: 00:35:51

We had.

876

: 00:35:52

And that.

877

: 00:35:54

I wonder if people are going

to get the sirens in that.

878

: 00:35:56

We have the door open,

cause it's gorgeous out.

879

: 00:35:59

And if you heard a siren, then.

880

: 00:36:02

There's your texts.

881

: 00:36:02

Or that work.

882

: 00:36:05

I also got pulled over this morning.

883

: 00:36:08

They worked twice today.

884

: 00:36:10

Everything's fine.

885

: 00:36:15

Uh, yes.

886

: 00:36:16

So public transportation.

887

: 00:36:17

People people really, uh,

get shocked about that.

888

: 00:36:20

And, , yeah, cause I

mean, I think it's easy.

889

: 00:36:24

So many people live here, who aren't from

here and I'm born and raised from here.

890

: 00:36:27

You aren't a know more about it than I do.

891

: 00:36:29

, I know, , It's such a triumphant.

892

: 00:36:31

The city at this point, especially

with the film industry coming in.

893

: 00:36:33

I mean, there's just a lot of

regeneration of new people.

894

: 00:36:36

But it's easy to come to Atlanta

and be like, yeah, I mean a

895

: 00:36:38

landscape, but like we need public

transportation or we need that.

896

: 00:36:41

And it's interesting to be like,

so we actually used to, and yeah.

897

: 00:36:46

Now we don't.

898

: 00:36:47

Yeah, there's so many different things

of, , you know, the train stations and.

899

: 00:36:52

Honestly, we're going to just

continue talking about Atlanta.

900

: 00:36:54

If, if we don't, uh, veer off of

this, because as I'm sitting here

901

: 00:36:57

and there's like seven more like

interesting facts that are like coming

902

: 00:37:00

to my brain right now, but, , That

I'm just going to keep stealing.

903

: 00:37:02

If you don't come in off, , I'm

not going to cut you off cause

904

: 00:37:05

I'm really interested in this.

905

: 00:37:06

And I know that if I'm sitting here,

like, damn, I didn't know that.

906

: 00:37:08

I know that people who are

listening also feel the same way.

907

: 00:37:10

So Blake tell us more.

908

: 00:37:13

Well, the first thing that's

coming to my mind is that.

909

: 00:37:17

Early in Atlanta's years.

910

: 00:37:19

, Inman park was one of the first planned.

911

: 00:37:22

Suburbs.

912

: 00:37:23

Whoa.

913

: 00:37:25

Yeah, that's so weird

to think about, right?

914

: 00:37:27

It's so wild.

915

: 00:37:29

, and all that came from

the, , Ponce avenue street car.

916

: 00:37:33

And it ended up extending and

that's what, , you know, ended up,

917

: 00:37:37

uh, Bracketing out into what was

considered the suburbs at that time.

918

: 00:37:41

Wow.

919

: 00:37:42

Yeah.

920

: 00:37:43

Very interesting.

921

: 00:37:44

There.

922

: 00:37:45

, another weird little thing.

923

: 00:37:46

My, my buddy and I he's, , incredible guy.

924

: 00:37:49

He's.

925

: 00:37:50

Kind of the heart behind the BeltLine.

926

: 00:37:52

, Uh, yeah, Ryan gerbil gets a lot of

the attention, but, , my buddy angel.

927

: 00:37:57

Very involved even now.

928

: 00:37:58

, he, through some partnerships

with some organizations.

929

: 00:38:02

Multiple years ago.

930

: 00:38:03

I forget when, , Printed out

the: 1949

931

: 00:38:07

Cool.

932

: 00:38:08

So this is before highways.

933

: 00:38:09

They printed it on a 20

foot by 30 foot vinyl.

934

: 00:38:14

Whoa.

935

: 00:38:16

So at the last streets alive,

he and I rolled it out.

936

: 00:38:19

And so as long as people took their shoes

off, we were letting people walk on the

937

: 00:38:22

map, trying to find where they lived.

938

: 00:38:23

This is so cool.

939

: 00:38:24

And the map is everything

inside the BeltLine.

940

: 00:38:26

Okay.

941

: 00:38:27

, and so like 17th street was only

half the distance 14th street.

942

: 00:38:31

Like they didn't extend.

943

: 00:38:33

, on both sides of the highway.

944

: 00:38:35

Now.

945

: 00:38:35

, Ponce still had the cracker

stadium across from it.

946

: 00:38:39

Uh, not the whole famous right.

947

: 00:38:42

Food.

948

: 00:38:43

Home Depot, all that.

949

: 00:38:44

, and you can see the strip of

homes that, , became the highways.

950

: 00:38:48

We have a whole Northeast

corner heading up towards

951

: 00:38:50

bulkhead, nothing existed there.

952

: 00:38:52

, there.

953

: 00:38:53

Are there pictures of all

of this on your account?

954

: 00:38:55

Can people to look at it.

955

: 00:38:56

I don't.

956

: 00:38:57

If not, can you post.

957

: 00:38:59

Or can you send it to

us so we can finesse?

958

: 00:39:00

I feel like people are.

959

: 00:39:01

People slash me.

960

: 00:39:02

Want to see this?

961

: 00:39:03

Okay.

962

: 00:39:04

, Yeah, I need to, , and I, and I'm

trying to convince my buddy to let

963

: 00:39:08

me take the map out more often.

964

: 00:39:10

Yeah, or, or I'll save up my

$800 and get my own printed.

965

: 00:39:15

, I guess we could go with

like a more recent history.

966

: 00:39:17

, I showed you the videos

that I took of the BeltLine.

967

: 00:39:21

Oh my gosh.

968

: 00:39:21

Yes.

969

: 00:39:22

And I would love to share this with

our listeners because this is so cool.

970

: 00:39:25

The way that you did this.

971

: 00:39:25

Yeah.

972

: 00:39:26

Yeah.

973

: 00:39:26

Well I'm.

974

: 00:39:27

Yeah, I know.

975

: 00:39:29

That was not the.

976

: 00:39:30

I was giving.

977

: 00:39:31

But it's giving gas.

978

: 00:39:34

I just need the audience to understand.

979

: 00:39:35

I am giving her the death stare right now.

980

: 00:39:38

He is.

981

: 00:39:40

Anyways.

982

: 00:39:42

Can we back to angel?

983

: 00:39:43

, he collects everything.

984

: 00:39:45

Um, He also, so part of what I, his

influence on the BeltLine, , was he.

985

: 00:39:52

Was leading tours of the BeltLine

when it was still a railroad track.

986

: 00:39:56

So in case you don't know.

987

: 00:39:58

What we consider and call the BeltLine.

988

: 00:39:59

The 22 miles of strong, the city used to

be three different, Railroad companies.

989

: 00:40:04

And they surround the city.

990

: 00:40:06

Um, hold on.

991

: 00:40:07

Can I share how I know that?

992

: 00:40:09

Please.

993

: 00:40:09

Okay.

994

: 00:40:10

It's because I live on the

BeltLine and when I bought my

995

: 00:40:13

home, It was dusty railroad tracks.

996

: 00:40:17

And I remember my real estate agent

being like, I mean, I know it's kind

997

: 00:40:21

of an eyesore, but like, I'm sure

they'll do something with it one day

998

: 00:40:24

and now my place is worth twice as much.

999

: 00:40:27

So Blake go on.

: 1000

00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,130

Yes.

: 1001

00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,380

Well, , he took pictures when

he was doing all of that.

: 1002

00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,300

, he ended up doing a cool

project called board.

: 1003

00:40:36,510 --> 00:40:37,170

The BeltLine.

: 1004

00:40:37,350 --> 00:40:37,560

Okay.

: 1005

00:40:37,610 --> 00:40:41,130

, where he had people donate

plywood, , and they cut them

: 1006

00:40:41,130 --> 00:40:42,540

into strips and they boarded.

: 1007

00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:43,380

It's an.

: 1008

00:40:43,830 --> 00:40:45,450

That the east side belt line.

: 1009

00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,460

The part that everyone goes

to every Saturday and Sunday.

: 1010

00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:52,500

And crowds greatly on the weekends.

: 1011

00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:52,770

Yes.

: 1012

00:40:52,830 --> 00:40:58,160

Um, that was a CSX, , owned

and, but it was inactive.

: 1013

00:40:58,450 --> 00:41:00,970

That was where a lot of the

touring was happening in.

: 1014

00:41:01,090 --> 00:41:05,350

So they just took these, this plywood cut

them in half and they put boards down the

: 1015

00:41:05,380 --> 00:41:09,570

entire strip of the, , but when rail, I

remember like walking my dogs over that,

: 1016

00:41:09,570 --> 00:41:12,060

but I didn't know that that was like, I

didn't know anything about the project.

: 1017

00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,290

Okay, who put these boards here?

: 1018

00:41:13,380 --> 00:41:15,350

So interestingly enough,

, from my understanding.

: 1019

00:41:15,590 --> 00:41:17,420

The city of Atlanta reached out to CSX.

: 1020

00:41:17,690 --> 00:41:20,510

, which a lot of thoughts on

the railroad companies, , they

: 1021

00:41:20,510 --> 00:41:22,820

completely ignored the city.

: 1022

00:41:23,450 --> 00:41:26,330

The city came was like, Hey, we got

$30 million or something like that.

: 1023

00:41:26,660 --> 00:41:29,090

We want the east side

BeltLine, isn't active.

: 1024

00:41:29,180 --> 00:41:29,450

Like.

: 1025

00:41:29,450 --> 00:41:31,190

30 million for an inactive railroad.

: 1026

00:41:31,220 --> 00:41:31,460

Like.

: 1027

00:41:32,180 --> 00:41:33,320

We don't even acknowledge the city.

: 1028

00:41:33,470 --> 00:41:33,830

Wow.

: 1029

00:41:33,910 --> 00:41:35,260

Board the BeltLine happened.

: 1030

00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,110

Big enough to get news agencies out there.

: 1031

00:41:38,170 --> 00:41:38,650

Wow.

: 1032

00:41:38,686 --> 00:41:40,186

Got enough publicity.

: 1033

00:41:40,333 --> 00:41:42,403

Guess who rings the city of Atlanta up.

: 1034

00:41:42,553 --> 00:41:42,883

See.

: 1035

00:41:44,143 --> 00:41:45,763

Head to Birmingham, let's

have a conversation.

: 1036

00:41:45,883 --> 00:41:46,363

Wow.

: 1037

00:41:46,393 --> 00:41:48,193

The purchase of the Eastside BeltLine.

: 1038

00:41:48,343 --> 00:41:49,393

That's amazing.

: 1039

00:41:49,603 --> 00:41:49,873

Yeah.

: 1040

00:41:49,933 --> 00:41:52,633

And that's somebody showing

up and just being like, I can

: 1041

00:41:52,633 --> 00:41:53,713

make a difference literally.

: 1042

00:41:53,803 --> 00:41:55,243

Yeah, that's so cool.

: 1043

00:41:55,273 --> 00:41:55,723

Literally.

: 1044

00:41:55,843 --> 00:41:56,203

Yeah.

: 1045

00:41:56,383 --> 00:41:57,403

, And it's so cool.

: 1046

00:41:57,403 --> 00:42:00,223

Like seeing the community

that he built around that.

: 1047

00:42:00,853 --> 00:42:05,063

The people that like still a reference

reference that, , which like this

: 1048

00:42:05,063 --> 00:42:07,463

gets into a lot more details than,

I don't know where your audience.

: 1049

00:42:07,593 --> 00:42:08,163

, falls on this.

: 1050

00:42:08,193 --> 00:42:11,223

I'm a big proponent of the, uh,

street cart on the BeltLine.

: 1051

00:42:12,273 --> 00:42:15,153

And it's just like very fascinating scene.

: 1052

00:42:15,693 --> 00:42:17,553

Like people saying that.

: 1053

00:42:18,033 --> 00:42:20,793

The idea that was presented

in: 1989

: 1054

00:42:21,063 --> 00:42:21,513

Thesis.

: 1055

00:42:22,083 --> 00:42:25,923

Is outdated ideas that the BeltLine has

surpassed what they were planning for.

: 1056

00:42:25,953 --> 00:42:27,993

It's like, no, that

was literally the goal.

: 1057

00:42:28,053 --> 00:42:28,383

Yeah.

: 1058

00:42:28,953 --> 00:42:29,643

But.

: 1059

00:42:30,213 --> 00:42:31,863

All of it was transportation.

: 1060

00:42:31,863 --> 00:42:33,303

First development, second.

: 1061

00:42:33,693 --> 00:42:35,853

Um, and it is very fascinating.

: 1062

00:42:35,853 --> 00:42:39,123

Like those same people are out there

showing up to all sorts of meetings.

: 1063

00:42:39,443 --> 00:42:40,043

Now.

: 1064

00:42:40,313 --> 00:42:43,283

It's a little harder because

that are competing with these.

: 1065

00:42:43,853 --> 00:42:45,653

You know, certain develop, you

know, depending on where the,

: 1066

00:42:45,743 --> 00:42:48,143

uh, developer falls on the topic,

they're competing with that.

: 1067

00:42:48,173 --> 00:42:50,573

But it's just very fascinating seeing

some of the online people being

: 1068

00:42:50,573 --> 00:42:52,403

like, no, I love this green space.

: 1069

00:42:52,433 --> 00:42:53,783

Like you're going to cut down

all these trees and stuff.

: 1070

00:42:53,813 --> 00:42:55,223

I was like, no, that was part of the plan.

: 1071

00:42:55,283 --> 00:42:55,553

Yeah.

: 1072

00:42:55,583 --> 00:42:55,643

Trees.

: 1073

00:42:55,913 --> 00:42:57,413

The answers were planted eight years ago.

: 1074

00:42:57,473 --> 00:42:58,403

Calm down, literally.

: 1075

00:42:59,153 --> 00:43:01,463

That is one of the things that

just blow their mind, like, okay.

: 1076

00:43:01,523 --> 00:43:01,973

First off.

: 1077

00:43:02,693 --> 00:43:05,003

Just in: 2009

: 1078

00:43:05,573 --> 00:43:06,323

Would blow your mind.

: 1079

00:43:06,923 --> 00:43:10,723

You can go onto Google earth

and, , or street view and you

: 1080

00:43:10,723 --> 00:43:12,493

can see different years of it.

: 1081

00:43:12,853 --> 00:43:17,323

And: 2013

BeltLine next to pot city market.

: 1082

00:43:17,893 --> 00:43:19,303

Go and look what it looked like.

: 1083

00:43:20,533 --> 00:43:21,253

: 2013

: 1084

00:43:22,183 --> 00:43:23,473

It is still raggedy.

: 1085

00:43:23,473 --> 00:43:25,303

It's a brand new strip of concrete.

: 1086

00:43:25,333 --> 00:43:25,633

Yeah.

: 1087

00:43:26,053 --> 00:43:27,013

It's a sidewalk.

: 1088

00:43:27,073 --> 00:43:27,733

It's a sidewalk.

: 1089

00:43:27,793 --> 00:43:28,063

Yup.

: 1090

00:43:28,423 --> 00:43:31,423

It like you will not even recognize ponds.

: 1091

00:43:31,903 --> 00:43:34,873

You'll recognize the main thing,

but that whole patio area, like

: 1092

00:43:34,993 --> 00:43:36,523

none of that stuff existed.

: 1093

00:43:36,703 --> 00:43:38,383

At the Starbucks at my Kroger.

: 1094

00:43:38,503 --> 00:43:38,803

Right.

: 1095

00:43:39,283 --> 00:43:43,333

You go, you know, the six, seven years

before that, like that is nothing,

: 1096

00:43:43,333 --> 00:43:45,133

but, you know, just grown up trees.

: 1097

00:43:45,333 --> 00:43:50,803

, so it's, yeah, very, very fascinating of,

of how people, , interpret the BeltLine

: 1098

00:43:50,803 --> 00:43:52,093

and its success and things like that.

: 1099

00:43:52,363 --> 00:43:55,203

, but going back to, , I have

pictures, this is probably what your.

: 1100

00:43:55,863 --> 00:44:00,423

Uh, Blake that down and took like

Manila envelopes out of his backpack.

: 1101

00:44:00,423 --> 00:44:01,413

He is so prepared.

: 1102

00:44:01,413 --> 00:44:04,743

I'm so impressed that I'm having so

much fun, but I he's just handed me.

: 1103

00:44:05,703 --> 00:44:06,813

What the fuck is this?

: 1104

00:44:07,233 --> 00:44:07,683

, let's see here.

: 1105

00:44:07,743 --> 00:44:08,133

I'm.

: 1106

00:44:09,093 --> 00:44:09,723

What's that.

: 1107

00:44:09,783 --> 00:44:10,413

Is that a ghost?

: 1108

00:44:11,193 --> 00:44:12,813

It's probably somebody, he was a.

: 1109

00:44:13,473 --> 00:44:15,963

At score with, I am forgetting

which bridge that is.

: 1110

00:44:15,963 --> 00:44:17,523

So I am so sorry.

: 1111

00:44:17,523 --> 00:44:18,873

This is the part of.

: 1112

00:44:19,293 --> 00:44:20,433

Wait is this Ralph McGill?

: 1113

00:44:21,453 --> 00:44:22,083

I think it is.

: 1114

00:44:22,113 --> 00:44:23,793

Oh, okay.

: 1115

00:44:23,793 --> 00:44:23,853

So.

: 1116

00:44:23,883 --> 00:44:28,373

So for the viewers, since you are

just listening, , it is nothing but

: 1117

00:44:28,373 --> 00:44:33,113

kudzu except for like a little two

foot path going through the middle.

: 1118

00:44:33,383 --> 00:44:35,543

, Running underneath the bridge.

: 1119

00:44:35,633 --> 00:44:38,153

Um, That's where this is where I live.

: 1120

00:44:38,183 --> 00:44:41,513

This is where I walk my dog every

day, half that kudzu is still there.

: 1121

00:44:41,633 --> 00:44:43,343

This isn't the same that

you're showing me this.

: 1122

00:44:43,463 --> 00:44:45,803

Yeah, I'll put y'all, I'll post pictures

of all of this, because I know it's

: 1123

00:44:45,803 --> 00:44:46,883

annoying to like listen to somebody.

: 1124

00:44:47,783 --> 00:44:48,683

I have so.

: 1125

00:44:49,523 --> 00:44:52,763

So going back to angel, most

of these are all his photos or,

: 1126

00:44:52,793 --> 00:44:54,263

, I've, I've stolen some offline.

: 1127

00:44:55,373 --> 00:44:56,153

They're all credited.

: 1128

00:44:56,183 --> 00:44:59,513

, anyways, I went in with my camera

and digitalized, all of them.

: 1129

00:44:59,583 --> 00:45:01,563

, because a lot of them weren't

good enough quality for me.

: 1130

00:45:01,983 --> 00:45:04,713

And, uh, so I have both the

digital and print versions.

: 1131

00:45:04,713 --> 00:45:06,363

I'll send you all the

digital so you can post them.

: 1132

00:45:06,663 --> 00:45:10,023

, this other picture, it's literally

the machine ripping up the belt,

: 1133

00:45:10,073 --> 00:45:13,043

, BeltLine next to Piedmont park.

: 1134

00:45:13,103 --> 00:45:17,003

So this is the new Northeast

section that is under construction.

: 1135

00:45:17,123 --> 00:45:18,473

Before you get to Ansley.

: 1136

00:45:18,503 --> 00:45:20,923

Moral mall or, , Piedmont Heights.

: 1137

00:45:21,313 --> 00:45:21,703

Okay.

: 1138

00:45:21,823 --> 00:45:23,083

That's crazy.

: 1139

00:45:23,203 --> 00:45:25,603

So we've got a couple of those pictures.

: 1140

00:45:25,663 --> 00:45:26,323

Let's see here.

: 1141

00:45:26,563 --> 00:45:30,793

This one is the one that, uh, is

right there next to trader Joe's.

: 1142

00:45:31,033 --> 00:45:32,323

Um, the, the brain.

: 1143

00:45:33,583 --> 00:45:37,273

And you like, it's just piles

of all the boards that used to

: 1144

00:45:37,363 --> 00:45:39,073

lie underneath the tracks and.

: 1145

00:45:39,673 --> 00:45:43,183

Some awful, ugly graffiti

and tons of red dirt.

: 1146

00:45:43,573 --> 00:45:44,323

I like the Griffith.

: 1147

00:45:44,653 --> 00:45:47,143

This is the picture of that's the Ponce.

: 1148

00:45:47,193 --> 00:45:49,053

, that's the patio area.

: 1149

00:45:49,203 --> 00:45:49,833

Oh, so sorry.

: 1150

00:45:50,013 --> 00:45:51,453

He just threw this picture at me.

: 1151

00:45:51,513 --> 00:45:53,163

Just really aggressive, like.

: 1152

00:45:53,973 --> 00:45:54,723

I appreciate.

: 1153

00:45:57,123 --> 00:45:57,903

Forgive me.

: 1154

00:45:57,933 --> 00:45:58,413

Wow.

: 1155

00:45:58,503 --> 00:45:58,653

See.

: 1156

00:45:58,893 --> 00:46:01,323

Now you can go buy a hundred dollar

pair of leggings, 20 feet from

: 1157

00:46:01,323 --> 00:46:03,063

this, and this is like a trash heap.

: 1158

00:46:03,423 --> 00:46:03,963

Correct.

: 1159

00:46:04,263 --> 00:46:04,893

Why gold.

: 1160

00:46:05,283 --> 00:46:10,013

Yeah, so that big awning piece, uh, next

to, Then you walk out of where they do.

: 1161

00:46:10,223 --> 00:46:10,763

The market.

: 1162

00:46:11,333 --> 00:46:12,233

Yeah, farmer's market.

: 1163

00:46:13,493 --> 00:46:15,023

That is none of that exists.

: 1164

00:46:15,053 --> 00:46:17,213

That a is just a, a.

: 1165

00:46:17,723 --> 00:46:21,443

Ugly white wall with trees that

have grown up through the middle

: 1166

00:46:21,443 --> 00:46:23,183

of the, , The train track.

: 1167

00:46:23,373 --> 00:46:27,483

Here's the, uh, construction

of the path over.

: 1168

00:46:28,923 --> 00:46:30,603

, part of the, , the bridge over ponds.

: 1169

00:46:30,723 --> 00:46:32,973

Ah, this is amazing that

you have all of this.

: 1170

00:46:33,243 --> 00:46:33,513

Yeah.

: 1171

00:46:33,663 --> 00:46:34,013

I, , yeah.

: 1172

00:46:34,073 --> 00:46:38,063

I know it should just handle, I mean,

I nerd out to these all the time.

: 1173

00:46:38,783 --> 00:46:39,023

Okay.

: 1174

00:46:39,353 --> 00:46:42,083

Well, you're, , flipping

through some of these.

: 1175

00:46:42,083 --> 00:46:43,883

If you have questions, I'll answer them.

: 1176

00:46:44,183 --> 00:46:44,483

Okay.

: 1177

00:46:44,843 --> 00:46:53,573

This is the pamphlet B like between the,

, thesis and the city actually adopting.

: 1178

00:46:53,723 --> 00:46:55,523

Okay, Ryan gribbles thesis.

: 1179

00:46:56,153 --> 00:46:56,513

Right.

: 1180

00:46:56,603 --> 00:47:00,353

So this is what Ryan and angel were

literally handing out to people.

: 1181

00:47:01,473 --> 00:47:03,033

, like city officials as they were.

: 1182

00:47:03,393 --> 00:47:04,773

Oh one or you reprinted it.

: 1183

00:47:05,103 --> 00:47:05,523

Original.

: 1184

00:47:07,983 --> 00:47:10,293

So came prepared everybody like.

: 1185

00:47:11,553 --> 00:47:12,003

Some of.

: 1186

00:47:13,083 --> 00:47:16,323

Seeing this, now that I'm looking

at this, this is like crazy.

: 1187

00:47:16,443 --> 00:47:19,953

So I'm holding a, , just a 11 by

eight and a half, like typical piece

: 1188

00:47:19,953 --> 00:47:21,993

of paper that's been folded in half.

: 1189

00:47:22,113 --> 00:47:24,393

The front page is the east side.

: 1190

00:47:24,903 --> 00:47:25,563

Belt line.

: 1191

00:47:26,193 --> 00:47:27,723

Um, desired.

: 1192

00:47:28,623 --> 00:47:29,043

Correct.

: 1193

00:47:29,333 --> 00:47:33,413

, and prior to the purchase of those

railroad tracks, I believe so.

: 1194

00:47:33,443 --> 00:47:35,783

Let me see what my year is here.

: 1195

00:47:36,083 --> 00:47:38,703

You know, actually I think this

would have been, This would have

: 1196

00:47:38,703 --> 00:47:41,943

been the initial conversation

because they were working with.

: 1197

00:47:42,373 --> 00:47:45,553

, they did have a, developer helping them

put some of those pictures together.

: 1198

00:47:45,703 --> 00:47:46,213

Okay.

: 1199

00:47:46,303 --> 00:47:50,233

So, but still that was a, would

have been the original proposals

: 1200

00:47:50,233 --> 00:47:51,133

happening with the city.

: 1201

00:47:51,383 --> 00:47:54,863

, and trying to show how many

neighborhoods and parks.

: 1202

00:47:55,463 --> 00:47:58,463

Our connected just through

the east side boat line.

: 1203

00:47:58,613 --> 00:47:59,333

Yeah.

: 1204

00:47:59,483 --> 00:47:59,543

So.

: 1205

00:48:00,503 --> 00:48:05,303

That is, uh, one of those, , angel

has also got me in the terrible, I say

: 1206

00:48:05,303 --> 00:48:06,743

terrible it's I think it was a great.

: 1207

00:48:06,933 --> 00:48:07,293

, habit.

: 1208

00:48:07,803 --> 00:48:08,223

Anytime.

: 1209

00:48:08,223 --> 00:48:09,993

I see a proposal of any sort.

: 1210

00:48:10,803 --> 00:48:11,463

For the city.

: 1211

00:48:11,973 --> 00:48:12,543

I saved them.

: 1212

00:48:12,663 --> 00:48:14,583

I am have a.

: 1213

00:48:15,063 --> 00:48:17,103

I'm probably going to have to

buy you some insane amount of

: 1214

00:48:17,103 --> 00:48:18,543

storage in the near future.

: 1215

00:48:18,543 --> 00:48:20,793

I already have like two

terabytes of cloud storage.

: 1216

00:48:21,273 --> 00:48:25,463

Just filling that up, , of just reports

and proposals and all that stuff.

: 1217

00:48:25,703 --> 00:48:29,393

, which the exciting thing is like when I

go to videos, like sometimes that adds

: 1218

00:48:29,393 --> 00:48:33,593

the hook of like, oh, here are original

plans of Marta and what it wanted to do.

: 1219

00:48:33,593 --> 00:48:33,683

And.

: 1220

00:48:34,373 --> 00:48:36,413

Voted it down four times,

you know, things like that.

: 1221

00:48:36,773 --> 00:48:38,153

Um, four times.

: 1222

00:48:38,543 --> 00:48:43,733

But this, , I'm holding, , creating

linkages and eliminate barriers.

: 1223

00:48:44,123 --> 00:48:45,743

DJ community investment report.

: 1224

00:48:46,003 --> 00:48:51,193

, essentially this was a

report on how to solve.

: 1225

00:48:51,493 --> 00:48:53,523

Atlanta's housing, , issues.

: 1226

00:48:53,523 --> 00:48:55,983

And this was early two thousands.

: 1227

00:48:56,613 --> 00:48:57,333

We've solved them.

: 1228

00:48:58,753 --> 00:49:02,803

, but it's got just such a crazy

breakdown of like the issues

: 1229

00:49:02,803 --> 00:49:04,123

that the city is running into.

: 1230

00:49:04,183 --> 00:49:07,963

And, , the, the steps that they

thought would be appropriate, which

: 1231

00:49:07,993 --> 00:49:09,733

would still probably be appropriate.

: 1232

00:49:10,033 --> 00:49:13,153

That's what I was just about to ask you

is without having read this pamphlet.

: 1233

00:49:13,543 --> 00:49:17,773

Are the same issues present or have there

been issues in this pamphlet that are

: 1234

00:49:17,773 --> 00:49:19,303

solved and new issues have been created?

: 1235

00:49:19,333 --> 00:49:19,963

Yeah, absolutely.

: 1236

00:49:19,963 --> 00:49:20,203

Okay.

: 1237

00:49:20,203 --> 00:49:23,563

So here's, here's some other paperwork,

it's all handwritten notes because

: 1238

00:49:23,563 --> 00:49:25,273

I've not had the time to convert.

: 1239

00:49:25,423 --> 00:49:27,793

, All of these into written text.

: 1240

00:49:27,993 --> 00:49:29,223

, this is a dare pork.

: 1241

00:49:29,493 --> 00:49:30,423

Cute little yen or anything.

: 1242

00:49:30,483 --> 00:49:31,353

That's not my handwriting.

: 1243

00:49:31,803 --> 00:49:33,033

Uh, just kidding.

: 1244

00:49:33,123 --> 00:49:36,283

That has been provided to

me, , for more story content.

: 1245

00:49:36,973 --> 00:49:37,573

, a deer park.

: 1246

00:49:37,603 --> 00:49:38,863

I don't even know what these numbers mean.

: 1247

00:49:39,343 --> 00:49:44,673

Okay, well, , that's , a street

and let's hear Lexington avenue.

: 1248

00:49:45,243 --> 00:49:45,483

Okay.

: 1249

00:49:45,483 --> 00:49:46,323

That's the house number?

: 1250

00:49:47,103 --> 00:49:47,643

Okay.

: 1251

00:49:47,703 --> 00:49:50,403

The year it was purchased and

the price it was purchased.

: 1252

00:49:50,763 --> 00:49:52,593

Oh shit.

: 1253

00:49:52,983 --> 00:49:54,783

So six 40.

: 1254

00:49:55,083 --> 00:49:56,763

That's 20 18 55 K.

: 1255

00:49:57,993 --> 00:50:01,113

Oh, 20 13 22 K.

: 1256

00:50:01,893 --> 00:50:03,483

Wow, 20 16 91 K.

: 1257

00:50:03,513 --> 00:50:05,253

Now most of these were fixer uppers.

: 1258

00:50:06,333 --> 00:50:07,143

But.

: 1259

00:50:07,653 --> 00:50:08,733

Literally a.

: 1260

00:50:09,813 --> 00:50:11,343

The provider of this information.

: 1261

00:50:11,973 --> 00:50:14,843

Went and dug up all the,

, information on all his neighbors

: 1262

00:50:14,843 --> 00:50:17,533

to, get a better picture of

what has happened to a deer park.

: 1263

00:50:18,083 --> 00:50:18,563

, and.

: 1264

00:50:19,913 --> 00:50:23,723

The lack of black residents

that now exist in a deer park.

: 1265

00:50:24,073 --> 00:50:24,703

, let's see here.

: 1266

00:50:24,883 --> 00:50:28,813

I think he had taken a note

like three owners alone owned

: 1267

00:50:28,813 --> 00:50:31,033

17 properties in a deer park.

: 1268

00:50:32,083 --> 00:50:33,073

Um, rentals.

: 1269

00:50:33,823 --> 00:50:34,453

Airbnb.

: 1270

00:50:34,543 --> 00:50:34,813

Yeah.

: 1271

00:50:35,353 --> 00:50:35,623

Yeah.

: 1272

00:50:36,013 --> 00:50:39,883

Not owner-occupied things that

are not necessarily contributing.

: 1273

00:50:40,483 --> 00:50:43,933

Greatly to a Dar housing

market, uh, issues.

: 1274

00:50:44,083 --> 00:50:49,013

But, , yeah, and it just kind of shows

where That changed began happening.

: 1275

00:50:49,113 --> 00:50:51,543

, you know, but Atlanta was

still an affordable place.

: 1276

00:50:51,543 --> 00:50:55,053

Uh, even up to: 2018

holding like one picture in particular.

: 1277

00:50:55,083 --> 00:50:56,073

Do you have a question about it?

: 1278

00:50:56,433 --> 00:51:00,553

Well, I'm uh, I'm so excited

right now and, , kind of my

: 1279

00:51:00,553 --> 00:51:01,453

brain's all over the place.

: 1280

00:51:01,483 --> 00:51:05,293

But this is the part of the stack of

photos that Blake handed me I'm that

: 1281

00:51:05,293 --> 00:51:07,723

I'm in are literally my backyard.

: 1282

00:51:07,933 --> 00:51:10,453

And so I'm just kind of having,

, is that the old fourth ward?

: 1283

00:51:10,903 --> 00:51:11,383

Skate park.

: 1284

00:51:11,593 --> 00:51:13,183

Yeah, an old fourth ward park.

: 1285

00:51:13,463 --> 00:51:15,983

, so I, uh, I won't tell you

all exactly where I live, but

: 1286

00:51:15,983 --> 00:51:16,823

I live right around there.

: 1287

00:51:17,113 --> 00:51:20,293

, and it's just like, This is unbelievable.

: 1288

00:51:20,293 --> 00:51:22,963

Like I walk my dogs here every

day, other than Saturday and

: 1289

00:51:22,963 --> 00:51:24,073

Sunday because the tourists, but.

: 1290

00:51:25,363 --> 00:51:26,023

I don't think it's even.

: 1291

00:51:26,353 --> 00:51:28,803

Like, yes, there are some tourists, but

I really think it's just, , you know,

: 1292

00:51:28,803 --> 00:51:33,243

all the suburbs, people who don't have,

uh, access to livable walkable spaces.

: 1293

00:51:33,363 --> 00:51:36,663

That's exactly what I mean, if you

don't, if you didn't walk to the

: 1294

00:51:36,663 --> 00:51:38,733

BeltLine, you're a tourist, right, right.

: 1295

00:51:38,883 --> 00:51:39,483

100%.

: 1296

00:51:39,573 --> 00:51:39,903

Yeah.

: 1297

00:51:39,993 --> 00:51:42,783

Like if you live in Cobb county and

you're on the BeltLine, you're a tourist.

: 1298

00:51:43,213 --> 00:51:45,823

, and maybe this is a good opportunity

to just a little pet peeve.

: 1299

00:51:45,853 --> 00:51:46,393

What is it?

: 1300

00:51:46,783 --> 00:51:48,253

Two's company, three's a crowd.

: 1301

00:51:48,283 --> 00:51:50,233

Like when it comes to walking,

can we talk etiquette?

: 1302

00:51:50,383 --> 00:51:51,463

Can we, can we just do this?

: 1303

00:51:54,583 --> 00:51:54,823

Yeah.

: 1304

00:51:54,913 --> 00:51:55,513

I'm over here.

: 1305

00:51:55,543 --> 00:51:56,053

Like hands.

: 1306

00:51:56,143 --> 00:51:56,983

Like temples.

: 1307

00:51:58,153 --> 00:51:58,393

Okay.

: 1308

00:51:58,453 --> 00:51:59,953

I walked past a sign.

: 1309

00:52:00,403 --> 00:52:03,733

Uh, BeltLine sign that was knocked

down that said, oh, has all the

: 1310

00:52:03,763 --> 00:52:05,513

belt lines, , rules and etiquettes.

: 1311

00:52:06,293 --> 00:52:10,013

Um, which are all very sensible

and like, Common sense, right?

: 1312

00:52:10,103 --> 00:52:10,553

Literally.

: 1313

00:52:10,883 --> 00:52:13,763

I think I'm going to just launch an

entire BeltLine page at this point.

: 1314

00:52:13,763 --> 00:52:16,273

Cause I have so many things I

want to just, , actually, no, I'm

: 1315

00:52:16,273 --> 00:52:18,733

just going to go work with, have

you seen the Instagram account?

: 1316

00:52:19,093 --> 00:52:19,963

Atlanta bill and hits you.

: 1317

00:52:20,263 --> 00:52:20,593

Yes.

: 1318

00:52:20,923 --> 00:52:21,103

Okay.

: 1319

00:52:21,943 --> 00:52:22,543

I'm just going to stop.

: 1320

00:52:22,633 --> 00:52:24,403

It's going to start

feeding them information.

: 1321

00:52:24,503 --> 00:52:29,733

, I I'm happy to assist in any

way because I share your, , Mm.

: 1322

00:52:33,183 --> 00:52:33,453

Yeah.

: 1323

00:52:33,933 --> 00:52:34,563

Much better.

: 1324

00:52:36,453 --> 00:52:37,293

Either way.

: 1325

00:52:37,473 --> 00:52:40,413

Yes, the Butlin etiquette

is out of control.

: 1326

00:52:40,473 --> 00:52:41,913

You guys are animals.

: 1327

00:52:42,453 --> 00:52:43,803

And I'm like, no wonder a lot.

: 1328

00:52:43,803 --> 00:52:46,473

Highways are as miserable as

they are, like, does this.

: 1329

00:52:46,503 --> 00:52:47,553

How you drive, how you walk

: 1330

00:52:49,743 --> 00:52:52,503

like this crew over here, six people wide.

: 1331

00:52:52,503 --> 00:52:55,233

And it's like, okay, at

this point, They just stop.

: 1332

00:52:56,283 --> 00:52:59,583

And then they just, and that is when

I, when I talk about the BeltLine

: 1333

00:52:59,583 --> 00:53:01,113

being a transportation corridor.

: 1334

00:53:01,473 --> 00:53:05,343

You have to treat that sidewalk like

it's a transportation corridor, correct?

: 1335

00:53:05,373 --> 00:53:08,913

People are doing their transportation

with bikes in their feet.

: 1336

00:53:09,003 --> 00:53:10,533

Yes, but would you.

: 1337

00:53:10,893 --> 00:53:13,323

Would you stop in the middle of 85?

: 1338

00:53:13,863 --> 00:53:14,223

No.

: 1339

00:53:14,463 --> 00:53:16,683

W would you, would you stop

in the middle of, you know,

: 1340

00:53:17,073 --> 00:53:18,393

Buford highway, would you like?

: 1341

00:53:18,483 --> 00:53:19,833

No, no, no, no.

: 1342

00:53:19,923 --> 00:53:20,073

Like.

: 1343

00:53:20,883 --> 00:53:23,493

So if you're on the BeltLine path,

: 1344

00:53:23,530 --> 00:53:26,680

Do not stand still step to

the side, say it louder.

: 1345

00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,860

Do not stand still.

: 1346

00:53:29,980 --> 00:53:34,900

In the middle of the BeltLine path

or any fucking path like, or that.

: 1347

00:53:35,050 --> 00:53:39,460

Be mindful of how your existence

impacts those around you.

: 1348

00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:39,730

Yeah.

: 1349

00:53:39,820 --> 00:53:42,610

Like it's so little and so huge.

: 1350

00:53:42,730 --> 00:53:45,340

And it tells me everything I

need to know about a person like.

: 1351

00:53:46,270 --> 00:53:46,900

I can tell them.

: 1352

00:53:47,170 --> 00:53:49,660

First date material, or

just a walk in the BeltLine.

: 1353

00:53:49,660 --> 00:53:51,460

So I know what type of human you are.

: 1354

00:53:51,740 --> 00:53:54,890

, ah, that's actually like

a really good little hack.

: 1355

00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,130

Just like, let me put you in a situation

where I may be able to judge you.

: 1356

00:53:59,510 --> 00:54:00,980

You heard it here first, everybody.

: 1357

00:54:01,500 --> 00:54:06,510

And also, I'm just going to say this like

Saturday at: 11:00

: 1358

00:54:06,510 --> 00:54:08,790

learn to rollerblade on the BeltLine.

: 1359

00:54:08,891 --> 00:54:09,161

Okay.

: 1360

00:54:09,191 --> 00:54:10,121

Here's here.

: 1361

00:54:10,451 --> 00:54:11,801

This is a side tangent.

: 1362

00:54:12,401 --> 00:54:13,301

Also very connected.

: 1363

00:54:14,141 --> 00:54:15,191

There are other.

: 1364

00:54:15,791 --> 00:54:16,361

Paths.

: 1365

00:54:16,511 --> 00:54:19,661

Walking past that are not sidewalks.

: 1366

00:54:20,411 --> 00:54:21,311

That existed in Atlanta.

: 1367

00:54:21,971 --> 00:54:22,991

Wait, there are.

: 1368

00:54:23,129 --> 00:54:24,929

Surprise surprise.

: 1369

00:54:24,989 --> 00:54:25,619

You got to do this too.

: 1370

00:54:25,649 --> 00:54:26,519

I don't think people know this.

: 1371

00:54:26,519 --> 00:54:27,569

I think you need to publicize.

: 1372

00:54:28,979 --> 00:54:30,449

It's going to be shocking to hear.

: 1373

00:54:31,409 --> 00:54:32,249

You know, some of the issues.

: 1374

00:54:32,579 --> 00:54:34,049

In the connectivity.

: 1375

00:54:34,739 --> 00:54:39,479

And things like that, but like, if you

drove to the BeltLine on a Saturday to

: 1376

00:54:39,479 --> 00:54:41,459

learn how to, how to rollerskate, like.

: 1377

00:54:41,879 --> 00:54:43,469

Going out on Piedmont park.

: 1378

00:54:43,859 --> 00:54:44,159

There's.

: 1379

00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,439

Full-size roads.

: 1380

00:54:46,979 --> 00:54:48,059

There that you can do that.

: 1381

00:54:48,059 --> 00:54:49,319

And people could still

walk on the sidewalk.

: 1382

00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:49,529

You're.

: 1383

00:54:49,559 --> 00:54:50,759

Not like threatening people's lives.

: 1384

00:54:50,819 --> 00:54:51,089

Yes.

: 1385

00:54:51,539 --> 00:54:53,459

The parking deck instead

of you clogging up claim.

: 1386

00:54:53,939 --> 00:54:54,329

Yeah.

: 1387

00:54:54,619 --> 00:54:58,429

, the freedom, um, yes, the freedom path.

: 1388

00:54:58,489 --> 00:54:58,909

Yup.

: 1389

00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:00,919

Another fantastic.

: 1390

00:55:01,579 --> 00:55:02,539

It was always empty.

: 1391

00:55:02,569 --> 00:55:03,109

Yes.

: 1392

00:55:03,209 --> 00:55:04,439

, the silver comment, like there.

: 1393

00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:06,749

Yeah, there are so many other paths.

: 1394

00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:08,399

I'm sorry if you live near them.

: 1395

00:55:08,399 --> 00:55:10,319

And I just sent you a

lot of extra traffic.

: 1396

00:55:11,669 --> 00:55:13,979

We've got to, we've got to

diversify though, because the

: 1397

00:55:13,979 --> 00:55:16,019

BeltLine is congested and insane.

: 1398

00:55:16,349 --> 00:55:20,459

And I mean, it blows my mind

the way people act on it.

: 1399

00:55:20,639 --> 00:55:25,499

100%, my, my wine, big requests,

like all these people going back to

: 1400

00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:26,969

people against the, , but when rail.

: 1401

00:55:27,539 --> 00:55:29,969

I'm like, I'm sorry that you're so.

: 1402

00:55:30,509 --> 00:55:33,479

Deprived of car-free space.

: 1403

00:55:34,226 --> 00:55:35,066

Advocate for it.

: 1404

00:55:35,666 --> 00:55:36,056

Fair.

: 1405

00:55:36,206 --> 00:55:40,226

I do not want to hear you arguing

against a transportation corridor

: 1406

00:55:40,406 --> 00:55:43,856

just because you are so deprived of.

: 1407

00:55:43,856 --> 00:55:45,386

Car-free walking space.

: 1408

00:55:45,476 --> 00:55:45,956

Yes.

: 1409

00:55:46,436 --> 00:55:50,576

Well, I think it's annoying to hear people

complain about anything without following

: 1410

00:55:50,606 --> 00:55:52,586

up with a suggestion for a solution.

: 1411

00:55:52,736 --> 00:55:55,436

Well, and, and the Atlanta BeltLine.

: 1412

00:55:55,436 --> 00:55:56,436

Inc, , ABI.

: 1413

00:55:57,366 --> 00:56:00,606

They like they were established to

be a transportation organization.

: 1414

00:56:01,333 --> 00:56:04,633

And so people get really worked up

about them with like affordable housing.

: 1415

00:56:04,693 --> 00:56:07,183

Like they do have responsibility

with affordable housing and public.

: 1416

00:56:07,363 --> 00:56:10,393

Really when you look at the corridor

that they actually own, like.

: 1417

00:56:10,456 --> 00:56:11,626

It's somewhat limited.

: 1418

00:56:11,836 --> 00:56:14,746

Everything else has partnerships

with developers with the city.

: 1419

00:56:14,746 --> 00:56:15,526

Like all these things.

: 1420

00:56:15,646 --> 00:56:19,276

Like if you want more paths

that don't have a real line

: 1421

00:56:19,276 --> 00:56:20,236

on it or something like that.

: 1422

00:56:20,686 --> 00:56:20,986

Like.

: 1423

00:56:20,986 --> 00:56:22,186

Show up at your MPU.

: 1424

00:56:22,396 --> 00:56:23,836

Talk to your city council member.

: 1425

00:56:24,076 --> 00:56:25,756

To like get involved.

: 1426

00:56:26,026 --> 00:56:26,716

Shout.

: 1427

00:56:26,716 --> 00:56:31,276

And get people to, to

create streets and spaces.

: 1428

00:56:31,996 --> 00:56:32,836

Like that are connected.

: 1429

00:56:32,926 --> 00:56:34,066

Like, I would love the BeltLine.

: 1430

00:56:34,066 --> 00:56:37,216

If it existed, it had just tons of

little trails, just branching off

: 1431

00:56:37,246 --> 00:56:38,326

it, even if it had to be amazing.

: 1432

00:56:39,076 --> 00:56:41,866

Pitstop path, like we're

like just cuts over a street.

: 1433

00:56:42,196 --> 00:56:43,996

For two blocks and then reconnects in.

: 1434

00:56:44,326 --> 00:56:48,466

Like you just looped in so many

more business opportunities at.

: 1435

00:56:48,826 --> 00:56:50,716

Because that was one thing

that's About the Eastside.

: 1436

00:56:50,716 --> 00:56:54,976

BeltLine is there's parts where you

stepped two streets away and you're

: 1437

00:56:54,976 --> 00:56:58,936

like, oh, I'm back in a car-centric

hell and , It's very interesting.

: 1438

00:56:58,996 --> 00:56:59,296

Yeah.

: 1439

00:56:59,656 --> 00:56:59,986

Yeah.

: 1440

00:57:00,256 --> 00:57:06,556

And I'm like, Just advocate for some safe

biking lanes or like th there's room.

: 1441

00:57:06,556 --> 00:57:10,756

We could find ways to whether we like

eliminate streets or minimize them a

: 1442

00:57:10,756 --> 00:57:14,356

little bit more to put in paths that

are very safe, that don't have high car

: 1443

00:57:14,356 --> 00:57:17,956

traffic, where you could find that piece

and the trees and all of those things.

: 1444

00:57:18,856 --> 00:57:20,116

That you experienced on the boat line?

: 1445

00:57:20,166 --> 00:57:23,226

, without having to fight the Saturday

and Sunday crews and things like that.

: 1446

00:57:23,736 --> 00:57:25,326

I agree with everything you just said.

: 1447

00:57:25,356 --> 00:57:29,896

And I think generally speaking,

It's so easy for people to default

: 1448

00:57:29,926 --> 00:57:37,296

into criticism mode without doing the

diligence of, coming up with ideas

: 1449

00:57:37,296 --> 00:57:38,706

and suggestions and alternatives.

: 1450

00:57:38,736 --> 00:57:39,516

So I appreciate that.

: 1451

00:57:39,516 --> 00:57:40,686

You're like, Hey, here's a problem.

: 1452

00:57:40,926 --> 00:57:41,526

Here's a solution.

: 1453

00:57:41,526 --> 00:57:44,646

I've thought of here's how you get

the solution enacted you show up

: 1454

00:57:44,646 --> 00:57:46,356

and you've got to vocalize things.

: 1455

00:57:46,596 --> 00:57:47,076

And I think.

: 1456

00:57:47,676 --> 00:57:48,636

Part of it too.

: 1457

00:57:49,266 --> 00:57:50,556

And this certainly applies to me.

: 1458

00:57:50,556 --> 00:57:54,216

I think it's very easy to be like,

no one cares what I have to say.

: 1459

00:57:54,216 --> 00:57:56,196

What could I do to make a difference?

: 1460

00:57:56,436 --> 00:57:58,656

But you made such a good

point that somebody like you.

: 1461

00:57:59,046 --> 00:58:02,636

It's saying like, Hey, there's this MPU

meeting tonight at six 30, let's meet.

: 1462

00:58:02,636 --> 00:58:04,506

They're , let's have a conversation.

: 1463

00:58:04,716 --> 00:58:08,586

Yeah, and making it accessible, making

it comfortable and just letting people

: 1464

00:58:08,586 --> 00:58:14,256

know about it, I think is so huge because

it's really easy to bitch about stuff.

: 1465

00:58:14,286 --> 00:58:17,286

And then just get wrapped back

up in your own life things.

: 1466

00:58:17,316 --> 00:58:17,496

Yup.

: 1467

00:58:17,556 --> 00:58:18,336

And just complain.

: 1468

00:58:18,396 --> 00:58:18,636

Yeah.

: 1469

00:58:19,326 --> 00:58:22,896

I'm bleeding, but I also

know that there's an onus to.

: 1470

00:58:23,406 --> 00:58:27,066

You know, And I've actually, you know,

I think there's something that's not.

: 1471

00:58:28,086 --> 00:58:29,496

I have a lot to say, you know, even.

: 1472

00:58:29,556 --> 00:58:32,466

Um, personal terms of, , peoples.

: 1473

00:58:33,006 --> 00:58:34,236

Relationship to community.

: 1474

00:58:34,446 --> 00:58:38,196

, but if you want to feel

connected to a place.

: 1475

00:58:38,582 --> 00:58:39,392

Advocate for it.

: 1476

00:58:39,602 --> 00:58:40,142

Yeah.

: 1477

00:58:40,231 --> 00:58:41,851

I'm going to take this back though.

: 1478

00:58:41,901 --> 00:58:43,401

, it does something you'd

just mentioned all the time.

: 1479

00:58:43,491 --> 00:58:45,291

The beginning where

you asked about my Ooh.

: 1480

00:58:46,281 --> 00:58:50,481

, You asked, you know, Some of my

reasoning behind starting the page.

: 1481

00:58:51,111 --> 00:58:51,681

And.

: 1482

00:58:51,934 --> 00:58:53,404

I was trying to do a story.

: 1483

00:58:53,864 --> 00:58:57,004

about our preparedness for

the people world cup in: 2026

: 1484

00:58:57,364 --> 00:58:57,724

Anyways.

: 1485

00:58:57,904 --> 00:59:01,594

I was out, , by Centennial yards, the, the

new, the bridge, the pedestrian bridge.

: 1486

00:59:02,044 --> 00:59:02,614

Over there now.

: 1487

00:59:02,644 --> 00:59:05,474

And I was just standing there

and, , like I just finished recording

: 1488

00:59:05,474 --> 00:59:07,724

a video or something and I just

started talking with the guy I find

: 1489

00:59:07,754 --> 00:59:09,944

out he does corporate real estate.

: 1490

00:59:09,974 --> 00:59:11,804

, mostly open new England area.

: 1491

00:59:12,174 --> 00:59:15,564

, and we just got in this conversation

and he was just saying like,

: 1492

00:59:15,588 --> 00:59:19,098

well, I kind of mentioned how it's

a little concerning seeing some of

: 1493

00:59:19,098 --> 00:59:20,958

the big corporations and some of the.

: 1494

00:59:21,408 --> 00:59:23,748

Uh, where they are willing to

put their money in Atlanta.

: 1495

00:59:23,748 --> 00:59:25,788

And some of the groups are

willing to put their money behind.

: 1496

00:59:26,118 --> 00:59:28,638

, and he was just like, you know, I

think, especially in a city, the

: 1497

00:59:28,638 --> 00:59:34,488

size of Atlanta, What's important

is sometimes these corporations.

: 1498

00:59:34,521 --> 00:59:37,731

Like, if there's a strong enough vision,

they'll put their money behind it.

: 1499

00:59:37,847 --> 00:59:38,207

Okay.

: 1500

00:59:38,296 --> 00:59:41,896

essentially it's like, if you're,

if you're starved of options, then

: 1501

00:59:41,926 --> 00:59:43,846

like you turn to what's available.

: 1502

00:59:43,846 --> 00:59:44,846

What's what's there.

: 1503

00:59:45,106 --> 00:59:49,326

, to, to have the influence, the corporate

and governmental, advocacy, whatever.

: 1504

00:59:49,496 --> 00:59:51,686

, he knows like he'll fear if you're.

: 1505

00:59:51,956 --> 00:59:55,546

How'd the ability . Create that

vision create the vision that the

: 1506

00:59:55,546 --> 00:59:57,136

corporations could stand behind.

: 1507

00:59:57,166 --> 00:59:57,946

Create this.

: 1508

00:59:58,546 --> 01:00:03,736

, Because I was talking about how

much cars and the commuting into the

: 1509

01:00:03,736 --> 01:00:06,766

city, you know, just like a lot of

the obstacles that Atlanta faces.

: 1510

01:00:07,216 --> 01:00:10,996

He was like, The corporations

aren't necessarily always trying

: 1511

01:00:10,996 --> 01:00:12,856

to make a big public statement.

: 1512

01:00:12,856 --> 01:00:16,726

It's just like they need or want

a certain level of power and they

: 1513

01:00:16,756 --> 01:00:18,226

want it certain level of visibility.

: 1514

01:00:18,876 --> 01:00:21,786

If you create enough noise,

a strong enough vision.

: 1515

01:00:21,906 --> 01:00:23,706

And enough validity to it.

: 1516

01:00:24,396 --> 01:00:25,566

Like the corporations.

: 1517

01:00:25,596 --> 01:00:27,936

I can and we'll start paying attention.

: 1518

01:00:28,206 --> 01:00:32,826

And if you give them the option of like,

oh, We want to build a headquarters here.

: 1519

01:00:32,826 --> 01:00:36,006

We want to bill, you know,

expand our operations in Atlanta.

: 1520

01:00:36,156 --> 01:00:36,546

Yeah.

: 1521

01:00:36,606 --> 01:00:40,266

And they get to show up to an Atlanta

where there's this very strong vision

: 1522

01:00:40,506 --> 01:00:44,796

of what the city is, is going to

become., that's like, oh, well, yeah,

: 1523

01:00:44,796 --> 01:00:47,136

we want to put our money behind that

rather than like throwing our money

: 1524

01:00:47,166 --> 01:00:48,756

at cop city or something like that.

: 1525

01:00:48,756 --> 01:00:48,936

Like.

: 1526

01:00:49,446 --> 01:00:54,456

And all of a sudden it's like, yeah, like,

oh, we're talking about sustainability.

: 1527

01:00:54,486 --> 01:00:56,046

And, , we're talking about.

: 1528

01:00:56,162 --> 01:00:59,792

Affordability and things like that

that are easy to adopt as you know,

: 1529

01:00:59,792 --> 01:01:01,652

part of your pillars as a corporation.

: 1530

01:01:02,732 --> 01:01:03,992

Yeah, we can support that.

: 1531

01:01:04,022 --> 01:01:07,802

So part of the page was like, man,

I can take some of these ideas.

: 1532

01:01:07,802 --> 01:01:08,252

I have.

: 1533

01:01:08,682 --> 01:01:11,082

, because that is one thing, like there

there's documents and stuff that exists,

: 1534

01:01:11,082 --> 01:01:16,902

but I don't see a big, strong, overarching

vision for the city of Atlanta.

: 1535

01:01:16,992 --> 01:01:18,342

And there's lots of little.

: 1536

01:01:19,122 --> 01:01:19,992

I think.

: 1537

01:01:20,622 --> 01:01:22,482

There's a lot of enthusiasm.

: 1538

01:01:22,782 --> 01:01:26,382

The people that you bring to Atlanta,

and I think it bubbles up and goes away.

: 1539

01:01:26,802 --> 01:01:30,372

And what you mentioned earlier

is that we need people who are

: 1540

01:01:30,522 --> 01:01:33,282

staying here and who are invested.

: 1541

01:01:33,672 --> 01:01:38,172

And don't just come and, you know,

Share their opinions and leave.

: 1542

01:01:38,202 --> 01:01:38,532

Yeah.

: 1543

01:01:39,012 --> 01:01:39,192

Yeah.

: 1544

01:01:40,302 --> 01:01:42,762

And capture the other people's vision.

: 1545

01:01:42,822 --> 01:01:44,142

You know, a lot of this stuff, isn't mine.

: 1546

01:01:44,172 --> 01:01:47,502

I'm trying to, you know, Capture the ones

that I'm like, oh, I think this could

: 1547

01:01:47,502 --> 01:01:49,152

really make a difference in Atlanta.

: 1548

01:01:49,152 --> 01:01:51,042

And like, let me see how I can amplify it.

: 1549

01:01:51,552 --> 01:01:52,152

I love that.

: 1550

01:01:53,052 --> 01:01:54,132

That was my little throwback.

: 1551

01:01:54,762 --> 01:01:58,122

You had one piece in two piece in the

conversation, I just had to connect them.

: 1552

01:01:58,452 --> 01:01:59,982

Those are very important dots to connect.

: 1553

01:02:00,882 --> 01:02:01,392

Yes.

: 1554

01:02:01,452 --> 01:02:01,812

Well then.

: 1555

01:02:02,352 --> 01:02:02,742

All right.

: 1556

01:02:03,552 --> 01:02:03,942

There you go.

: 1557

01:02:04,332 --> 01:02:06,282

It is so much of my

Atlanta brain right now.

: 1558

01:02:06,672 --> 01:02:08,682

Well, Blake, it's interesting.

: 1559

01:02:08,712 --> 01:02:11,262

This episode is going to

air this coming up Monday.

: 1560

01:02:11,292 --> 01:02:15,812

So the Monday before Thanksgiving, and,

, we've got, I would say the majority of

: 1561

01:02:15,812 --> 01:02:19,592

our listeners are in Atlanta, but as of

yesterday, Clover club has been listened

: 1562

01:02:19,622 --> 01:02:22,982

to in 14 countries, which is post.

: 1563

01:02:23,222 --> 01:02:24,332

That's crazy.

: 1564

01:02:24,362 --> 01:02:27,182

Like, I love how detailed analytics

are, because I'm just like, we'd

: 1565

01:02:27,182 --> 01:02:29,212

really This is going worldwide.

: 1566

01:02:29,302 --> 01:02:30,532

Oh, Glen worldwide guys.

: 1567

01:02:30,582 --> 01:02:33,792

I mean, that's the goal,

but what I hope is that.

: 1568

01:02:34,242 --> 01:02:37,902

As we gather on Thursday with our

friends, with our family, or however

: 1569

01:02:37,902 --> 01:02:40,602

you're going to spend the day,

whether you're American or not.

: 1570

01:02:41,442 --> 01:02:45,912

It's interesting thinking about

past, present and future and what

: 1571

01:02:45,912 --> 01:02:49,662

our rules are and how we connect,

whether it's in our family and our

: 1572

01:02:49,662 --> 01:02:51,372

community, or in a broader sense.

: 1573

01:02:51,612 --> 01:02:53,892

And I'm, I'm feeling just very.

: 1574

01:02:54,202 --> 01:02:57,862

Energized and excited by this

conversation and just kind of the

: 1575

01:02:57,862 --> 01:02:59,902

ripple effects of this type of.

: 1576

01:02:59,962 --> 01:03:00,112

Yeah.

: 1577

01:03:00,502 --> 01:03:01,522

And thought, you know?

: 1578

01:03:01,552 --> 01:03:01,882

Yeah.

: 1579

01:03:02,092 --> 01:03:04,582

Well, you know, going back to

like that, that guy, , with the

: 1580

01:03:04,582 --> 01:03:06,812

journalist, , What are we talking

about that before the podcast?

: 1581

01:03:06,992 --> 01:03:07,352

I don't know.

: 1582

01:03:07,412 --> 01:03:08,432

There was a gentleman who wants.

: 1583

01:03:10,772 --> 01:03:11,612

No, not that one.

: 1584

01:03:12,452 --> 01:03:14,912

The Alpharetta dad who, uh, like found my.

: 1585

01:03:16,292 --> 01:03:17,402

Shout out to Alpharetta dad.

: 1586

01:03:17,522 --> 01:03:17,732

Yeah.

: 1587

01:03:19,142 --> 01:03:22,562

Uh, who doesn't pay attention

to anything transportation.

: 1588

01:03:22,562 --> 01:03:25,832

And, uh, I came to my journalist friend

just like bragging about, , the story that

: 1589

01:03:25,832 --> 01:03:27,362

he heard and the information you learned.

: 1590

01:03:27,632 --> 01:03:30,822

But , that's one thing that

I'm learning about my page is

: 1591

01:03:30,822 --> 01:03:32,172

I'm equipping people for co.

: 1592

01:03:32,442 --> 01:03:33,192

For conversations.

: 1593

01:03:33,402 --> 01:03:33,972

Yes.

: 1594

01:03:34,032 --> 01:03:37,842

Like just that tidbit is enough

that they're like, wait, did you

: 1595

01:03:37,842 --> 01:03:41,712

know that Atlanta used to have

200 miles, , streetcar tracks or,

: 1596

01:03:41,742 --> 01:03:44,802

you know, do you know that Atlanta

is the most surveillance city?

: 1597

01:03:45,312 --> 01:03:46,272

In the United States.

: 1598

01:03:46,692 --> 01:03:47,082

What.

: 1599

01:03:47,742 --> 01:03:50,292

Oh, yeah, the most surveilled city.

: 1600

01:03:50,562 --> 01:03:52,032

In the United States per capita.

: 1601

01:03:52,092 --> 01:03:53,952

Once we, we are.

: 1602

01:03:54,672 --> 01:03:57,192

Twice that of Philadelphia.

: 1603

01:03:57,272 --> 01:03:59,582

, we have, I believe it is.

: 1604

01:03:59,642 --> 01:04:00,002

Hang on.

: 1605

01:04:00,272 --> 01:04:04,442

Philadelphia heads 17

on average 17 cameras.

: 1606

01:04:04,622 --> 01:04:06,572

Per a thousand people.

: 1607

01:04:06,572 --> 01:04:07,562

And so we have.

: 1608

01:04:07,636 --> 01:04:07,966

What was it?

: 1609

01:04:07,996 --> 01:04:13,566

4 30, 8 or 40, uh, cameras, , per

a thousand people on average.

: 1610

01:04:14,346 --> 01:04:14,886

For the city.

: 1611

01:04:15,456 --> 01:04:15,726

Yeah.

: 1612

01:04:16,026 --> 01:04:17,736

I mean, it, it helps that.

: 1613

01:04:17,836 --> 01:04:21,856

The actual city of Atlanta only has

500,000 people compared to the Metro.

: 1614

01:04:21,916 --> 01:04:24,946

, so that kind of messes with

the, the numbers a little bit,

: 1615

01:04:24,946 --> 01:04:26,796

but, , yeah, we, , We are.

: 1616

01:04:27,696 --> 01:04:29,706

Number one per capita.

: 1617

01:04:29,826 --> 01:04:30,846

Yay.

: 1618

01:04:31,476 --> 01:04:34,326

Which is very interesting because the

thing that people always bring up is.

: 1619

01:04:34,439 --> 01:04:35,429

, this is, , another warning.

: 1620

01:04:35,489 --> 01:04:39,399

, the lady who was stabbed, , you cannot

park Katie Jeunesse and her dog Bowie.

: 1621

01:04:39,429 --> 01:04:39,819

Yes.

: 1622

01:04:39,839 --> 01:04:41,609

The security, there were security cameras.

: 1623

01:04:41,819 --> 01:04:43,169

I didn't work and they didn't work.

: 1624

01:04:43,288 --> 01:04:43,589

Yeah.

: 1625

01:04:43,829 --> 01:04:46,529

And then, you know, people always

bring that up and which is a huge

: 1626

01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:48,029

part of the conversation of like,

: 1627

01:04:48,059 --> 01:04:51,269

I think, I think the Atlanta police

foundation and they have like

: 1628

01:04:51,329 --> 01:04:54,749

two separate programs, like they

claim now that there's 18,000.

: 1629

01:04:55,229 --> 01:04:57,599

Camera's a part of their, their network.

: 1630

01:04:57,899 --> 01:04:59,429

, all monitored from Peachtree street.

: 1631

01:04:59,759 --> 01:05:03,089

What'd I have to dig into because what I

hear from the PR and what their website

: 1632

01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:06,509

says, there's some discrepancies,

, Because from the sound of it, like

: 1633

01:05:06,538 --> 01:05:08,249

police officers can literally tap it.

: 1634

01:05:08,249 --> 01:05:11,689

Like . If you have attached to

your camera, to the network, and

: 1635

01:05:12,199 --> 01:05:14,959

what the website says, giving

them permission to access.

: 1636

01:05:15,049 --> 01:05:18,229

From my understanding police

officers can just straight up access.

: 1637

01:05:18,279 --> 01:05:20,559

, the cameras that have been

like allowed him to there.

: 1638

01:05:20,949 --> 01:05:21,909

Network, which.

: 1639

01:05:22,359 --> 01:05:24,999

So these are like residences

who have agreed to let their.

: 1640

01:05:25,869 --> 01:05:26,889

It's like the rings.

: 1641

01:05:27,249 --> 01:05:31,209

I think there's some like 11 or

12,000 official city cameras.

: 1642

01:05:31,209 --> 01:05:34,479

And then they have an entire

program where people can either.

: 1643

01:05:35,169 --> 01:05:38,469

Connect into the city, just so that

the city knows that they have a camera

: 1644

01:05:38,469 --> 01:05:41,649

there or they can give like full access.

: 1645

01:05:42,429 --> 01:05:44,259

No, the live stream to the city.

: 1646

01:05:44,349 --> 01:05:45,309

Uh, no.

: 1647

01:05:45,389 --> 01:05:45,989

, So.

: 1648

01:05:46,949 --> 01:05:51,659

And surprise, surprise, you know, like

a majority of the city's cameras are

: 1649

01:05:51,929 --> 01:05:55,199

downtown and or black neighborhoods.

: 1650

01:05:55,259 --> 01:05:55,919

how, okay.

: 1651

01:05:55,949 --> 01:05:57,029

We have the most cameras.

: 1652

01:05:57,119 --> 01:05:58,379

How many of them work though?

: 1653

01:05:58,769 --> 01:06:01,739

Do we have the most working cameras

because the, the Katie Janeth

: 1654

01:06:01,769 --> 01:06:04,409

thing, I obviously have very

strong feelings about, I think it's

: 1655

01:06:04,409 --> 01:06:06,179

embarrassing that this is not solved.

: 1656

01:06:06,659 --> 01:06:11,038

I have my theories, but I mean,

it's unbelievable that that

: 1657

01:06:11,038 --> 01:06:13,559

could happen at Piedmont park.

: 1658

01:06:14,279 --> 01:06:15,569

And it's been the summer.

: 1659

01:06:15,569 --> 01:06:16,529

We passed two years.

: 1660

01:06:16,739 --> 01:06:17,099

Nothing.

: 1661

01:06:17,399 --> 01:06:19,288

Just since we're hitting

all the conversations, this

: 1662

01:06:19,288 --> 01:06:20,579

is where we're talking.

: 1663

01:06:21,029 --> 01:06:22,979

Like 200 yards away.

: 1664

01:06:23,339 --> 01:06:25,559

From her opening story.

: 1665

01:06:25,676 --> 01:06:26,726

Oh, my God.

: 1666

01:06:26,726 --> 01:06:27,566

You're right.

: 1667

01:06:27,686 --> 01:06:28,316

Jeez.

: 1668

01:06:28,766 --> 01:06:30,206

Alan up to 10th street.

: 1669

01:06:30,686 --> 01:06:31,586

Yeah.

: 1670

01:06:32,126 --> 01:06:32,996

Wow.

: 1671

01:06:33,536 --> 01:06:34,376

Murders in arms.

: 1672

01:06:34,976 --> 01:06:36,296

And realize Midtown.

: 1673

01:06:36,386 --> 01:06:38,516

It's such a happening place.

: 1674

01:06:39,206 --> 01:06:42,806

And I think I want to do like a

little respect to Katie Janessa.

: 1675

01:06:42,806 --> 01:06:45,626

Let's just share the super

CliffsNotes of what happened.

: 1676

01:06:45,866 --> 01:06:50,996

This is a local woman who walked her dog,

I think around midnight, on a weekday.

: 1677

01:06:51,446 --> 01:06:53,426

, and to Piedmont park and a.

: 1678

01:06:53,426 --> 01:06:55,796

At her and her dog were

found stabbed to death.

: 1679

01:06:56,366 --> 01:07:00,896

Extremely gruesomely, not just not

that there's like a stabbing that

: 1680

01:07:00,896 --> 01:07:02,726

isn't gruesome, but this is extra.

: 1681

01:07:03,116 --> 01:07:03,626

, And.

: 1682

01:07:04,316 --> 01:07:06,566

Our police department and

the FBI has even evolved.

: 1683

01:07:07,076 --> 01:07:07,616

Unsolved.

: 1684

01:07:07,819 --> 01:07:08,719

It's unbelievable.

: 1685

01:07:08,869 --> 01:07:09,169

Yep.

: 1686

01:07:09,839 --> 01:07:10,709

uH, man.

: 1687

01:07:10,848 --> 01:07:12,828

I feel like there's still so many more.

: 1688

01:07:13,188 --> 01:07:14,148

Topics to hit.

: 1689

01:07:14,328 --> 01:07:16,008

And this is all just me with Mike.

: 1690

01:07:16,368 --> 01:07:19,508

The stuff that I think about Atlanta, , I

feel like we could've gone off on a whole

: 1691

01:07:19,508 --> 01:07:21,818

other, just like personal side of things.

: 1692

01:07:21,878 --> 01:07:24,278

I feel like you should come back

like once a month and we should do

: 1693

01:07:24,278 --> 01:07:28,268

like a check-in of like what you

need to know about Atlanta now.

: 1694

01:07:28,778 --> 01:07:29,498

Are linked.

: 1695

01:07:29,708 --> 01:07:30,488

Correspondence.

: 1696

01:07:32,588 --> 01:07:33,188

That would be fun.

: 1697

01:07:33,818 --> 01:07:36,158

But I, yeah, I would

not be opposed to that.

: 1698

01:07:36,258 --> 01:07:37,668

, talk about table is comfortable, right?

: 1699

01:07:38,538 --> 01:07:39,618

So comfortable.

: 1700

01:07:40,128 --> 01:07:40,728

My back.

: 1701

01:07:41,688 --> 01:07:41,928

Yeah.

: 1702

01:07:42,048 --> 01:07:44,478

Bag and ass or just,

you know, celebrating.

: 1703

01:07:45,018 --> 01:07:46,098

Sarcastic as your password.

: 1704

01:07:46,265 --> 01:07:47,285

No, I got, I got enough back.

: 1705

01:07:47,285 --> 01:07:48,845

There is no say it.

: 1706

01:07:51,305 --> 01:07:52,565

Every chair's comfortable for me.

: 1707

01:08:00,515 --> 01:08:02,015

No comment.

: 1708

01:08:02,465 --> 01:08:06,335

Like, what am I even supposed

to do and respond right now?

: 1709

01:08:06,395 --> 01:08:08,525

I mean, I guess I did start

it, but yeah, you started this.

: 1710

01:08:08,795 --> 01:08:09,365

Just finished it.

: 1711

01:08:12,005 --> 01:08:12,455

Yeah.

: 1712

01:08:12,485 --> 01:08:16,505

Like, yo, I feel like we could hit so

many other , conversations about just

: 1713

01:08:16,505 --> 01:08:21,965

like human goodness and like digging and

like, we didn't touch any of that stuff.

: 1714

01:08:21,965 --> 01:08:26,135

I feel like we could have gotten a whole

bunch of, uh, other, uh, juicy topics.

: 1715

01:08:26,404 --> 01:08:30,365

But I hope everyone enjoyed

just the amount of things I have

: 1716

01:08:30,365 --> 01:08:32,255

crammed in my brain about Atlanta.

: 1717

01:08:32,345 --> 01:08:33,845

I suspect that people will.

: 1718

01:08:33,875 --> 01:08:37,024

And if you, if there's something specific

that we touch on that you want to know

: 1719

01:08:37,024 --> 01:08:41,255

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