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The Birds in the Mattress
Episode 13512th November 2025 • Truth, Lies & Alzheimer's • Lisa Skinner
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In this episode, host Lisa Skinner shares a powerful and personal story from her book Truth, Lies, and Alzheimer’s – Its Secret Faces, titled “The Birds in the Mattress.” Through this real-life account, Lisa explores the frightening and often misunderstood world of paranoia, hallucinations, and delusions experienced by those living with Alzheimer’s and related dementias.

Listeners will learn:

  • Why individuals living with dementia may struggle to distinguish fact from fiction.
  • The difference between hallucinations, delusions, and paranoia—and how they can manifest.
  • How impaired reasoning affects perception and understanding of reality.
  • Practical approaches for responding with empathy, patience, and redirection when these behaviors occur.

Lisa also reflects on her own family’s experience—how her beloved grandmother’s changing behavior led to misunderstanding from others, including professionals who lacked awareness about dementia. This episode offers both education and compassion, reminding listeners that what may appear “irrational” often stems from a brain that can no longer process the world as it once did.

By sharing these deeply human experiences, Truth, Lies & Alzheimer’s continues its mission to replace judgment with understanding, and fear with informed care.

About the Host:

Author Lisa Skinner is a behavioral specialist with expertise in Alzheimer’s disease and related dementia. In her 30+year career working with family members and caregivers, Lisa has taught them how to successfully navigate the many challenges that accompany this heartbreaking disease. Lisa is both a Certified Dementia Practitioner and is also a certified dementia care trainer through the Alzheimer’s Association. She also holds a degree in Human Behavior.

Her latest book, “Truth, Lies & Alzheimer’s – Its Secret Faces” continues Lisa’s quest of working with dementia-related illnesses and teaching families and caregivers how to better understand the daunting challenges of brain disease. Her #1 Best-seller book “Not All Who Wander Need Be Lost,” was written at their urging. As someone who has had eight family members diagnosed with dementia, Lisa Skinner has found her calling in helping others through the struggle so they can have a better-quality relationship with their loved ones through education and through her workshops on counter-intuitive solutions and tools to help people effectively manage the symptoms of brain disease. Lisa Skinner has appeared on many national and regional media broadcasts. Lisa helps explain behaviors caused by dementia, encourages those who feel burdened, and gives practical advice for how to respond.

So many people today are heavily impacted by Alzheimer's disease and related dementia. The Alzheimer's Association and the World Health Organization have projected that the number of people who will develop Alzheimer's disease by the year 2050 worldwide will triple if a treatment or cure is not found. Society is not prepared to care for the projected increase of people who will develop this devastating disease. In her 30 years of working with family members and caregivers who suffer from dementia, Lisa has recognized how little people really understand the complexities of what living with this disease is really like. For Lisa, it starts with knowledge, education, and training.

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Lisa Skinner:

Hello, hello, hello. Are you ready for another

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new episode of the truth lies and Alzheimer's show? I hope so,

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because I've got one prepared for you today, and I'm Lisa

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Skinner, your host. So before we get started, I just want to

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mention, if you want to check out my website at minding

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dementia.com I have resources and other information available

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on that website for you to hopefully utilize. So don't

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forget to check that out minding dementia.com dementia.com so

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according to the Alzheimer's Association, approximately one

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out of three people who are living with Alzheimer's disease

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will develop paranoia or suspiciousness, and

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approximately 90% of people living with dementia will

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display behavioral impulses. Why is that? Well, it's because

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people living with brain diseases like Alzheimer's

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eventually lose just about all of their thinking powers, their

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judgment, their memory, language capabilities, abstraction, their

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organizational abilities, the ability to reason things out and

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their perception, as well as their ability to pay attention

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to the world around them, because all of these things work

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harmoniously and in concert for a person to be able to operate

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effectively in this world, we rely on these skills to maintain

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control and keep confusion away, and they work together to define

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a world that a healthy person understands, but once these

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abilities are damaged by a brain disease, those people are no

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longer capable of that understanding. Therefore,

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because people with brain disease suffer from impaired

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reasoning, they may easily misinterpret others intentions

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and have difficulty understanding what is being

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communicated to them. Their ability to separate fact from

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fiction can also become impaired. I'm going to share

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with you a story that's taken from my book truth, lies and

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Alzheimer's its secret faces, and this story and scenario

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illustrates some of the behaviors that we commonly see

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with Alzheimer's disease and related dementia, and it is

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called birds in the mattress. Mrs. Walker only lived a few

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miles from her family, so they visited her often. When her

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eldest granddaughter got her driver's license, she

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immediately drove over to see her grandma, to show off her

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brand new license. Her Nana was very, very special to her, and

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they enjoyed spending time together. Well. During this

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particular visit, she encountered some very peculiar

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behaviors by her grandma that she was not expecting. They were

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sitting in the living room having a nice conversation, when

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Nana started telling her about these birds that actually lived

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in her mattress and came out at night to peck on her face, that

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she saw rats running along her walls and that they were

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planning to invade her house. And then she went on to describe

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these men who were constantly trying to break into her house

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because they were stealing her possessions, including her

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jewelry, and that they were eventually going to do away with

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her and take her life over. Well, I was the granddaughter

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listening to these tales, and I did not know what to think about

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them. I was completely blindsided by these far fetched

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stories that I was listening. Listening to they sounded so

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impossible to believe. But I adored my Nana and desperately

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wanted to believe what she was telling me, so the first thing I

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did was led her into her bedroom one day, or bedroom that day and

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told her that we should check her mattress to see if we could

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tell exactly how these birds were getting in and out of it. I

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pushed her mattress up to see underneath it, and looked

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through the blankets off and the sheets, I didn't see any

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evidence of holes or anything that would substantiate her

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story of birds living in that mattress. So I said to her,

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Janet, can you help me out? Do you know? Can you show me where

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these birds are getting in and out of your mattress so I can

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help you, so you can sleep at night again and not be so

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frightened? Well, she just looked me straight in the eyes

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and said, Oh, Lisa, they are definitely there. They're just

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very, very clever. Well, as it turns out later on, I found out

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when I chose this to be my professional career path, that

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it actually was a brilliant response for her to explain the

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birds away to me, and I later learned that people living with

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a brain disease that causes dementia and they're having

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hallucinations or they're having false beliefs, they become

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masterful at explaining away their beliefs, like my grandma

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did by saying, Oh, they're just very, very clever. Well,

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unbeknownst to our family, while she was alone, it turns out she

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was calling the police to report these intruders, 234, times a

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day. Sometimes, they initially did send out a patrol officer to

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her house to check things out, but of course, they found no

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evidence of anything that she was claiming, although she did

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continue to call them day in and day out. So one day, there was a

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knock on my family's door. It was the police chief, and he was

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there to talk to my mom about my grandma's relentless calls to

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the police station. And he said to my mom, you need to do

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something with her. We cannot continue to take these calls. We

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don't have the time or the resources to deal with this.

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Your mother is a nutcase. Well, I was standing there listening

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to this conversation and could not believe that the chief of

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police just called my grandmother a nut case. He

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showed no concern for her safety, or any consideration

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that maybe, just maybe, there was something wrong with her. He

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rushed to a judgment that she was a nut. I was absolutely

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mortified, and I have never forgotten that day. It stays

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with me always. Now, at that time, I didn't know exactly what

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was wrong with my grandmother. I only knew that she was changing

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right before our very eyes. Soon after that, my mother did tell

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me that my grandmother had been diagnosed with what was called

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back then, senile dementia, which is synonymous with today's

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Alzheimer's disease, and that was the beginning of our 20 year

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journey of watching my grandmother decline until her

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death. So my further thoughts for you about that story are as

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was evident in this story. Mrs. Walker was experiencing

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delusions, hallucinations, paranoia and suspiciousness,

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which are all common behaviors with dementia.

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You can see them displayed individually or separate. Lee,

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as you did in my story. Now, her belief that there were birds

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living in her mattress and that they came out at night and

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pecked on her face is an example of a delusion or a false belief,

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and that is a false sensory perception that usually

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manifests as hearing voices or seeing things that aren't there.

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Now, believing that men were going to do away with her is an

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example of paranoia and suspiciousness, which is also a

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false belief. Mrs. Walker's belief would also qualify as a

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paranoid delusion, because she believed someone was going to

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harm her. Now, unfortunately, there are there's absolutely no

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amount of reasoning that can talk a person experiencing a

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delusion out of their belief. Often the most effective

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solution is to attempt to redirect their attention to

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something else after you acknowledge their concern and

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validate them. Finally, paranoia is often seen in those suffering

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from dementia. According to the Alzheimer's Association,

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approximately one out of three Alzheimer's disease sufferers

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will develop paranoia or suspiciousness, and many times,

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a person with dementia will misplace a belonging and then

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accuse someone else of taking it that becomes their truth. They,

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100% believe that it's been stolen from them, and this is

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because people with brain disease suffer from, again, this

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impaired reasoning, they may easily misinterpret others

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intentions and have difficulty understanding what is being

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communicated to them, and Once again, their ability to separate

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fact from fiction, may become severely impaired,

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hallucinations, paranoia and delusions can sometimes be

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managed with behavioral management therapies. However,

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in extreme psychotic symptoms, medication management may be

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required, so you want to make sure you have a really

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established relationship with your loved one's doctor, and

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make sure the doctor is provided with consistent updates on your

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loved one's condition. One of the key functions that our

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brains perform is that of perception. In a person living

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with dementia, the ability to perceive things the same way

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those of us with healthy brains will and do diminish and will

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affect the person's judgment, both visually and conceptually,

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their level of confusion will increase over time because they

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are losing their ability to make sense of what their senses take

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in. Consequently, this can produce several adverse

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reactions, such as fright and or combative behavior.

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Additionally, problems with memory and misperception can

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generate suspiciousness and paranoid thoughts, just like you

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heard in the birds in the mattress story where Mrs. Walker

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believed that people wanted to harm her, so hopefully that'll

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give you a really comprehensive understanding of what you are

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witnessing. If your loved one or the person you care for starts

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having these false beliefs, delusions, hallucinations,

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acting suspicious, accusing you or others of stealing things.

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This is what it can look like in the real world. So that

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concludes today's episode of the truth lies and Alzheimer's show,

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once again, I'm Lisa Skinner, your host, and I will be back

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next week for another new episode. Don't forget to check

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out my website. There's lots of resources on there for you

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minding dementia.com. Com, I wish you all a very happy and

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healthy week ahead, and I'll be back next week. Hope to see you

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then bye for now.

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