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Hello, and welcome to Who Are You?
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:This is a reasonably well done sci-fi
watch cast hosted by two former strangers,
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:now friends, who are damn near the
end of:
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:I'm Jafer
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:Laura: I'm Laura.
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:And you were so right
about Damn Near the End.
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:I
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: to watch it all last
night, but by the time we got to
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:it, I was like, "Man, it's too
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: cannot do another hour and a half.
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:I need to go to sleep."
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:Xhafer: Yeah, the extended cut of
"Daybreak" when it's all put together
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:is two hours and 33 minutes, I think.
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:Laura: Yeah
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:Xhafer: memory serves,
it's, it's a long boy.
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:And most of that long boy is
going to be covered next week.
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:We're gonna do two and
three, listener, next week.
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:So that's gonna be a longer episode,
which means normally when we hit
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:the last episode of a show, we
formally announce what's next.
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:Laura: Yeah, true
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:Xhafer: Next week's gonna be long, and if
you're here, you're a regular listener,
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:so you get it a week early for funsies.
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:You wanna do it?
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:You wanna, you wanna say it?
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:You wanna, you wanna, you wanna tell them?
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:Yeah.
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:We didn't talk about this beforehand.
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:We, we've known for a
minute at this point.
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:Laura: Yeah
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:Xhafer: we're excited to both be watching
for the first time, uh, "Farscape."
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: Yeah, that's gonna be a good time.
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:We watched "Babylon 5" and then
fascism crept back into the
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:world like it does in that show.
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:Laura: Mm-hmm
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:Xhafer: We decided to watch
"Battlestar Galactica" and now I'm
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:worried about robots taking my job.
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:Laura: Yep, yep
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:Xhafer: I think by choosing
"Farscape" we're willing
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:Muppets into the universe again,
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: right?
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:We don't know what happens, so if
that show ends up being secretly
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:tragic in the last season, whoops.
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:Laura: Oops.
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:But we
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:Xhafer: w-
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:Laura: for The Muppets.
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:We were hoping to bring us more
puppets in our daily lives, so
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:Xhafer: We just got that episode
of Strange New Worlds, but
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:more, more, more Muppets, please
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:Laura: Always more Muppets
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:Yeah.
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:Xhafer: yeah
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:Laura: about the show really beyond
Muppets, and honestly, this show
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:has been so, mm, that I was like,
dark could a show with puppets be?
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:Like, can
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:Xhafer: We're tempting fate now.
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:Laura: I know I, I'm sure it's
gonna wind up being like, oh my God,
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Laura: we're dealing with all this
deep shit and here's a puppet.
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: but I was like, maybe that
puppet will cheer me up a few times.
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:Xhafer: Yeah, I hope the puppets
are fun and that it's a fun show.
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:We'll find out in a bit.
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:We're gonna do the Battlestar Galactica
reboot movies, so we're gonna do The
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:Plan, we're gonna do, Caprica, the show,
the first season of that show that aired,
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:and then we're gonna do Blood and Chrome
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:Laura: Yeah
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:Xhafer: And then we're gonna do a recap
episode like we do for everything,
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:kind of capstone it, and then we'll,
then we'll get into "Firescape"
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:after a couple weeks off just to
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:give ourselves a couple weeks to build
up a buffer again, as is always the case.
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:Laura: I, I
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:quite clocked the order, that Blood
and Chrome's gonna be after Caprica
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:Xhafer: Yes.
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:Laura: Okay
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:Xhafer: chronologically that's the case.
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:Blood and Chrome takes
place after Caprica.
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:Laura: OK
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:Xhafer: were to watch everything in
order, it would probably be, Caprica,
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:Blood and Chrome, this show, and then
The Plan, but The Plan mostly takes place
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:during seasons one and two of the show.
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:Laura: Mm.
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:Okay
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:Xhafer: so there's that stuff,
but, um, we originally had it
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:Plan, Blood and Chrome, Caprica.
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:Laura: Угу
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:Xhafer: informed by, someone, and
by someone I mean Bob, when we were
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:talking during spoilers, he had
made a point of asking about the
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:order because of Blood and Chrome
having Caprica spoilers apparently
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:Laura: Oh, interesting.
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:Okay
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:I don't remember that in Blood
and Chrome, but I don't remember
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:Blood and Chrome at all.
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:I know I watched it.
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:Laura: Caprica?
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:Xhafer: I watched, I think, like,
the first eight, maybe 10 episodes of
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:Caprica of its 20-episode first season.
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:Laura: Mm-hmm
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:Xhafer: I don't remember
nothing about that show.
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:Laura: Yeah, sure
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:Xhafer: Except a couple of the
actors that are in it are bigger
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:names than you might expect.
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:Laura: Hmm.
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:Xhafer: And then I remember
nothing about Blood and Chrome.
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:So, uh, I was, I was told that the
proper way to do it would be to do
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:Blood and Chrome after, and I'm not
gonna argue with Bob about that.
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:Laura: Bob seems to know.
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:Xhafer: Bob knows his stuff.
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:Yeah.
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:So that will be the plan then.
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:So that's the rest of Battlestar, and
then afterwards, Muppets in Space.
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:Hell yeah.
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:Um
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:Laura: Wait, I think that's an
actual Muppet movie, isn't it?
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:Muppets in Space?
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:Xhafer: I hope so.
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:That we should do that as a break.
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:Laura: Absolutely, yeah
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:Xhafer: If it's not a full movie, it's
at least an episode of The Muppet Show.
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:I remember Luke Skywalker and Miss
Piggy as Princess Leia and stuff.
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:There's things.
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:Laura: Yeah
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:Xhafer: so yeah, that, that's
the plan for going forward.
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:Um, as neither of us have seen Farscape,
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:I don't know what happens to new s-
'cause old Spoiler Town is just gonna
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:be the BSG archive chat, I guess.
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:I don't know.
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:We'll- we might have both.
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:Laura: Yeah
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:Xhafer: and then we'll have to have an…
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:We already have a new chat for
Farscape 'cause people were talking
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:about and I felt cheeky so I made
the channel like two months early.
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:'Cause we knew at that point and
I was just like, "Oh, I'll just
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:make a Farscape channel for you
guys to talk about Farscape.
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:No bigs.
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:It's…
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:This is why."
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:A-
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:and, I don't know if we'll have a
Spoiler Town without the two of us
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:How do we, who administrates that?
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:I guess
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:Xhafer: Aaron
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:Laura: Ryan has seen Farscape.
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:I mean, I don't wanna put anyone in
that position that doesn't wanna…
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:I'm not gonna ask Ryan to mod our Discord.
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:But, you know, I mean, we got Mark,
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:Laura: volunteers,
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:Xhafer: Aaron.
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:Like, there are people
we could probably ask.
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:But also maybe we just don't do spoilies.
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:I don't know.
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:We'll figure it out.
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:I'm not sure the feasibility of
making myself unable to see a channel
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:in Discord as, like, creator admin.
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:I don't think I can.
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:Laura: Yeah
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:Xhafer: So I might have to make it and
just mute it and silence it and stuff
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:and just trust myself to not go in there.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: We'll figure it out later.
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:But that will be the plan.
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:If there's demand for a spoiler
town for Farscape, just say so in
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:the Discord and I'll figure it out
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:Laura: Sounds good.
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:Xhafer: Are you ready to talk about this,
the first 50 minutes of "Daybreak" here?
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Daybreak part
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:Xhafer: 50, whatever we ended up.
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:Laura: Uh-huh
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:Xhafer: it's "Battlestar Galactica" season
four, episode 19, "Daybreak" part one.
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:We get a last time on that takes
us through everything post-mutiny.
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:Laura: Угу.
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:Xhafer: all pretty standard, but there
was one thing I wanna call out about this
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:that I thought was pretty fucking rude
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:Laura: Okay.
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:Xhafer: with this last time on
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:Laura: there was some dialogue from Ellen
that didn't actually happen in the show.
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: the material, but the
dialogue Ellen said was not in
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:the show proper, I don't think.
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:What, what else is there?
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:Xhafer: The way they cut this, we see the
violent decompression in all the workers.
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:We see the human worker struggle and
look like he's about to get sucked out.
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:They cut out the part where
the Six saves his life,
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:Laura: Correct.
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:Xhafer: then they cut to the
scene of Six flying out in
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:space and being decompressed.
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:But it's so far away, and the way
that it's cut, it makes it look like
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:the human dude got killed and not
the Cylon who sacrificed herself.
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:And that dude is in this episode.
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:Laura: Yes.
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:He has words that he says.
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:Xhafer: Rude, rude, rude.
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:Laura: yeah.
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:But I- that's kind of a big thing to
have missed in the last few episodes
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:Xhafer: Well, exactly.
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:I think that that is a huge moment
for the society of the flotilla.
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:Laura: Угу
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:Xhafer: itself for a human is one
of the things that kind of cements
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:them as, "No, maybe this isn't
still all a trick or something.
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:Maybe this is okay."
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:Laura: Yeah
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:Xhafer: they took that away and made
it look like another humie died.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:That is quite rude.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:Also, I noticed, so we go straight from
our LTO to a theme and survivor count.
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:We don't get,
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: cold open.
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:in the survivor count,
we are down five, and
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:Xhafer: Correct
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:Laura: blanking on…
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:'Cause all those people died
before survivor count in the
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:last episode, so I thought
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:Xhafer: So
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:Laura: Oh, maybe more of them died.
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:Xhafer: more of them died.
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:These are people who were injured
that didn't get violently decompressed
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:that died of their injuries after
Cottle gives his count right
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:after the theme last episode
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:Laura: That's right.
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:I forgot that we had a bunch
of still injured people that
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:could possibly pass away.
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:So we lost five more.
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:Got it.
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:Xhafer: And then we go to the show, and
we talked about, a while ago, the three
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:movies that everyone was sent when you
agreed to direct this show, ":
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:one of those, which is why we watched
it for our movie break most recently.
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:That is very invocative of the
shots that they're doing here.
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:Laura: Mm-hmm.
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:Xhafer: We've got lots of
big spacey shots, the galaxy.
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:We cut to, like, a bird.
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:We cut to the sun rising over a blue and
green planet that after a couple more
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:cuts we learn is Caprica before the fall.
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:Laura: Угу
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:Xhafer: And it's just like, like "2001"
goes back to the start of its story,
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:uh, you know, with the dawn of man,
"Battlestar Galactica" now in its
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:finale is going to the start of its
story, which is Caprica before the
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:fall, and we have a ton of flashbacks
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:Laura: Mm-hmm.
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:And it's not clear exactly how long
before the fall all of this is.
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:Like, all of our characters are
about the right age, so it's
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: gone back 10 years
and Lee's 18 or something.
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:like, it's not the days
before, I don't think
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:Xhafer: No, we're pretty
lucid on the timeframe.
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:Laura: alive.
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:If Zach
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: alive, it's gotta be a minute
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:Xhafer: Z- Zack is alive and dating
Kara, which places it in, like, I wanna
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:say a, like, year-long period that is a
two years to one year before the fall.
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:The, the Starbuck, Lee, Zack stuff.
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:Because there's no guarantee
that that's happening at the same
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:time as the Gaius stuff, as the
Rosalind stuff, as the Adama stuff
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:Laura: Right.
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:Yeah, that's the other thing I wondered,
'cause it seems like maybe the Gaius
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:stuff is actually much closer to the fall
since I didn't have this impression that,
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:like, when we saw Six in the miniseries
and, and Gaius together that they've
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:been together for years or anything.
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:Like
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:Xhafer: years, but maybe a year
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:I don't think it would
be more than one though,
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:Xhafer: I mean, it has to be enough
time where you're obsessed with a
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:person to make a mind version of them.
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:Laura: Yeah, but I don't know that,
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:Xhafer: It's more than a couple of weeks.
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:Laura: long.
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:Yeah.
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:Xhafer: I would hope
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:Laura: months to a year, I think, for Mr.
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:Gaius.
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:Xhafer: Just
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:U-Hauling with angels, right?
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:Laura: Угу.
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:Xhafer: the mind peoples.
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:yeah, it's
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:Laura: We- we're going to Adama
and he's trying to resist doing
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:a one-hour job it sounds like
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:He does not wanna do this
currently nebulous obligation
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:Laura: Which movie was it where
we find out that Adama and Saul
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:went over the Cylon border?
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:Xhafer: That was in the show proper.
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:That was the episode with,
um, oh God, great actor.
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:What's his name?
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:He was only in the one episode.
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:Laura: Oh, yeah.
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:Xhafer: that got captured.
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:Yeah, and they found him.
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:Yeah
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:Laura: he's just gone.
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:Is that the one-hour job?
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:You're just gonna go do a quick recon,
and he's like, "No, I don't wanna."
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:Xhafer: I feel like you don't
put someone in command of a
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:Battlestar for that mission.
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:Laura: of a Battlestar anymore at
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:Xhafer: hard to say.
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:We don't--
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:Laura: Yeah, this
conversation is very nebulous
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:Xhafer: Yeah, we don't, we don't know
what's going on here until part two.
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:Laura: Okay.
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:Xhafer: The
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:Laura: think there's a couple of these
that I'm not gonna be 100% sure what's
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:Xhafer: The,
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:Laura: you
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:Xhafer: the next scene after we
stopped, if you stopped where I stopped,
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:Laura: Uh-huh.
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:Xhafer: more about what's
going on in this scene.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:I w- I was like, okay, is he resisting?
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:He doesn't wanna go
decommission Galactica.
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:He doesn't wanna go
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:Xhafer: That's the vibe, isn't it?
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:The vibe is the, the
Galactica decommission job
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:But also that seems like it
would've been much closer, like
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:it wasn't a couple years out.
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:This conversation would be
happening like a couple months
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:Xhafer: Well, and it wouldn't be in
our obligation either because his
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:whole thing being there was prepping
the ship to turn into the museum,
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:But the next thing we get is
Caprica and Gaius riding in a limo,
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: she's all in black
and he's all in white.
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:That was interesting
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:Xhafer: Угу
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:Laura: Just visually.
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:But she's still calling him Doctor.
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:She does not call him Gaius, and
he's like, "You can call me Gaius."
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:Xhafer: This scene where he's
all like, "I forgot your name."
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:We almost got a real name for Caprica Six.
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:Laura: Almost
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:Xhafer: Fun little tease
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:Laura: I guess that's another
reason why I'm like, they can't have
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:known each other that long, 'cause
he never refers to her by a name.
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:Xhafer: That's just Gaius being an asshole
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:Laura: Well, but it seems like, you
know, if they had been together for
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:a couple years, he would've gotten
a Sonia or a Gina or something
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:that would be stuck in his mind
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:Xhafer: If anyone were to have
a relationship for over a year
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:and not learn that person's name,
it is Gaius fracking Baltar.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:I don't know.
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:But it seems like if she's still
calling him doctor, that is
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:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
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:Laura: This is a newer thing.
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:Xhafer: Is them, meeting.
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:It's definitely the vibe.
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:'Cause they have not known each other
more than an hour or two at this point
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:Laura: Yeah
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:Yeah, this is the night
after the club or whatever.
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: And, uh, his car phone rings
and something very upsetting is
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:happening, and he threatens to sue
the person on the other end for
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:abandonment, which I thought, wife.
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:I thought he had a wife,
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: and that she was
leaving him in this moment.
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:But no, it's actually a little
more interesting than that.
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:But that would've been funny if Gaius
had had a wife that left him on Caprica
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:and that relationship was never, ever,
ever mentioned in the whole show.
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:Xhafer: So we get a lot of stuff about our
characters before their journey started
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:in this show, in this episode, right?
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:Laura: Mm-hmm
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:Xhafer: And I didn't f- really
feel this was necessary.
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:I might change my mind when we
get to part two, and three because
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:I haven't re-watched those yet.
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:So I might feel different about it
when I watch the entire episode.
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:So I'm, I'm definitely, like,
apprehensively kinda, like, reserving
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:judgment on it right now 'cause
I've watched a third of an episode.
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:I recognize that.
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:But I'm also just like, what is
this adding besides just making
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:sure that we know that all of our
characters were sad before the
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:saddest thing in their life happened?
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:Laura: Yeah, I found the Gaius
part actually kind of interesting.
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:And we knew Laura had big sadness about
her mother having canc- this cancer and
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: way, but we didn't know,
like, the, how fabulously, truly
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:alone she was before all this
happened until we find out that…
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:'Cause I don't think it's
even been mentioned that she
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:had two sisters and a father
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:Xhafer: Yeah.
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:Well, and I mean, so this is
before Adar runs for president.
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:Laura: Yes.
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:Xhafer: Adar's like, "Hey, I want you
on my campaign to do this, the stuff
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:that you've done for me in the past."
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:She's like, "No, no, no, no, no."
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:And so this, I think, takes
place years before the rest.
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:Th-
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:Laura: OK
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:Xhafer: this, 'cause we don't
know how long a presidential term
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:is, but we do know that it was
supposed to end in the first season
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Xhafer: when they have the election.
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:Laura: Right, 'cause
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:Xhafer: So
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:Laura: so many months away from
election to begin with, and
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: when Lee was, like, insisting
we still needed to do that.
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:Yeah.
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:Xhafer: So whatever the presidential
term is, plus two years before you
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:start, before the campaign to start a
presidential campaign, I would assume.
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:Maybe three, 'cause it's for the, all
the colonies you're the president of.
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:So, like, that's gotta be a big to-do,
and who knows how long that term is.
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:That term could be four,
six, eight, 10 years.
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:Laura: Угу
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:Xhafer: I don't think
they say it at any point.
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:Laura: Yeah
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:Xhafer: So, because they have the
election and no one mentions, like,
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:"Okay, well Baltar won, but we'll have
another one in two years," or something.
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:Laura: Uh-huh.
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:Xhafer: one says shit like that.
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:Everyone's all like, "If we
make it to that point…"
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:You know?
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:It's kind of assumed that
they'll have other problems.
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:So it's gotta be at least four, if not
six to eight years, I gotta imagine.
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:Yeah.
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:Laura: Yep
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:Xhafer: Or maybe even
an odd number of years.
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:So yeah, it's interesting.
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:But I think this is forever ago.
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:So we see Rosalyn having a baby shower
for her sister, one of her little sisters.
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:Her other little sister is there
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:They, they were, like, very gossipy about
the ladies at the baby shower, which was
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: They were having a little
after baby shower champagne,
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: just being sisters.
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: Uh, we cut to Kara,
cooking for something, and
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: shows up.
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:I guess Lee is meeting
her for the first time
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: Zach a little touchy
about Lee stealing his girls.
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:Xhafer: This is a thing.
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:Yeah, it seems like this is a pattern.
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:Laura: Yeah.
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:Uh-oh.
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:. Xhafer: We find the call that Baltar
received was from his dad's nurse.
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:His dad is in assisted
living, and he sucks.
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:Laura: Yeah, I thought, I thought this
was just, like, maybe Gaius' home.
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:I guess maybe Gaius owns it or
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:Xhafer: He probably owns it, yeah
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:Laura: and he has, like, this private
nurse come in, 'cause he's, like, begging
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:her to stay one more night, gonna pay
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:Xhafer: Yeah
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:Laura: as much as she's owed.
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:But Gaius' dad stabbed her,
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:Xhafer: Yep
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:Laura: And she's not into it.
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:Also, Gaius' dad clearly knows what's
up, because when he sees Caprica, he's
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:like, "Oh, so here's another lady."
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:Xhafer: Yeah
466
:Laura: and yes, he is unpleasant.
467
:I wondered if they were getting at
this is a dementia thing, 'cause Gaius'
468
:dad has accused the nurse of stealing.
469
:But he, he's also very, coherent
when he speaks, so I, I was like, "I
470
:don't know what we're getting at."
471
:But he tells us that, hey, all that stuff
that I was not certain about the episode
472
:where Gaius puts on a fun accent, is true.
473
:He did have that accident.
474
:Xhafer: that is all for reals
475
:Laura: yeah.
476
:And, Dad heckles him about, thinking he's
too good for the farm and all of this.
477
:And Gaius is no, like, angel in
this either, because he, after
478
:the nurse leaves, he does hit his
dad and scream at him for a bit,
479
:and then send Caprica home in his
480
:Xhafer: Yeah
481
:Laura: he's, frustrated at his dad.
482
:Like, caregiving's hard, for sure, and
we don't know exactly what's going on
483
:in this episode or with his father.
484
:But, none of this looks great.
485
:Xhafer: No.
486
:No, there's no feel-goods here.
487
:Cops show up at Rosalind's and
we find her whole family got
488
:taken out by a drunk driver.
489
:Like, her dad came to pick up
the daughters and this, their
490
:cops are like, "This is tragic."
491
:I don't, like, I don't wanna make, I
don't wanna make jokes about this, right?
492
:This is sad.
493
:Laura: Ja.
494
:Xhafer: But we're here to make jokes.
495
:So I'm just gonna point out,
did you catch out the incredible
496
:Canadian accent on these cops?
497
:Laura: No, I didn't.
498
:Xhafer: It's real soary for your lose.
499
:Like, it is real deep.
500
:And I know this show is
shot in Vancouver but
501
:Laura: just pulled a couple of
actors from CSI: Vancouver to
502
:Xhafer: Yeah.
503
:Laura: right?
504
:Xhafer: But what my theory presupposes is,
'cause we know Gaius' accent isn't real.
505
:We know Rosalyn traveled around.
506
:These are real salt of
the earth Capricans here.
507
:You know, they're not military folk who
lived on bases and moved around and stuff.
508
:We don't have a lot of characters like
this in the show that we interact with.
509
:Laura: Угу
510
:Xhafer: just Canadia?
511
:Laura: Hmm.
512
:Xhafer: I wonder
513
:Laura: she goes immediately, like, wanders
out to a park in her pajamas, and that
514
:Xhafer: Yeah
515
:Laura: clean park.
516
:That feels very Canadian coded.
517
:Xhafer: Yeah.
518
:That park doesn't exist in America.
519
:Laura: Yeah.
520
:Then she, like, steps into the,
the pond and, collapses into the
521
:fountain without any worries of, like,
bacteriums or nastiness in the water.
522
:Xhafer: You're not gonna get diarrhea
from sitting in that fountain.
523
:Yeah
524
:Laura: So, hmm, to Canada
525
:Xhafer: to clean up after the shower.
526
:Yeah, she says, "Fuck it."
527
:She goes outside
528
:She bathes in this fountain.
529
:And then we cut to, uh, Rosalind's pain
meds getting turned off in the modern day
530
:Laura: Угу.
531
:Xhafer: Lee is help divvying
up Galactica's parts.
532
:Laura: Yes.
533
:Lee is, , refusing the captain's first
request 'cause of course everyone
534
:has put in their budget, with a lot
of slack built in, and he's like,
535
:Xhafer: Yeah
536
:, Laura: You need to be more realistic.
537
:Do a second try."
538
:Xhafer: I vibe with this.
539
:It's budget season at work right now,
and I asked for a ton of absurd things
540
:I know that I'm not gonna get just so
I do get the things I actually do want
541
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
542
:Yep.
543
:Uh
544
:Xhafer: I asked for two conferences.
545
:I asked for a work trip to Europe,
546
:Laura: Uh-huh.
547
:Xhafer: Uh, for two weeks in London
and Germany to go assist those
548
:teams over there because they don't
have any dedicated developers.
549
:Laura: Mm.
550
:Xhafer: I'm gonna get one
conference and be happy about it,
551
:Laura: Right.
552
:Xhafer: that's all I actually want.
553
:So perfect.
554
:My boss says, "Oh, well, I cut 75%
out of the team's proposed budget.
555
:I'm doing great.
556
:Look at how fiscally responsible I am."
557
:And I still get to go to my thing
558
:Laura: Yeah
559
:Xhafer: to if I had just put the
conference I wanna go to down,
560
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
561
:Xhafer: have got it
562
:Laura: Yeah.
563
:But the specialist here is
insisting that, the mag accelerators
564
:have to be the last thing goes.
565
:Like, "This is what makes
Galactica a Battlestar.
566
:And, I get it if we have to take them
out, but we need to do that last."
567
:And
568
:Xhafer: Yeah.
569
:Laura: "Yeah.
570
:Yeah.
571
:No, I get it.
572
:Xhafer: 100%.
573
:Laura: gonna be a situation where
we need to launch some more Vipers,
574
:so let's keep those in there."
575
:Xhafer: Yeah.
576
:We, there's, we m- the old man might
decide we have to do one big battle still.
577
:So let's, uh, let's just hold off on
that so we can launch some Vipers.
578
:Laura: Yep
579
:packed up all his
580
:Xhafer: Yeah
581
:Laura: boxes full of stuff.
582
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
583
:Laura: Where has all this cardboard been?
584
:Do we just have, have a, uh,
closet in Galactica that's all the
585
:cardboard boxes for when we need it?
586
:Like
587
:Xhafer: Well, we know actually, because
all these boxes have all the corners,
588
:we know that they came from the Cylons
589
:Laura: Hmm.
590
:They were on the base star.
591
:Xhafer: 'Cause ba-
592
:Laura: on the base star
full of cardboard boxes
593
:Xhafer: 'Cause, colonial bankers
boxes should have corners cut out
594
:to better fit the documents, right?
595
:Laura: Mm-hmm.
596
:Xhafer: So
597
:Laura: There it is
598
:Xhafer: Yep.
599
:Nailed it.
600
:Uh, Paula and Gaius discuss that their
group is now large enough where when
601
:they go to a ship, they will take over
such a significant portion of that ship,
602
:they will effectively be guaranteed
a seat at the Quorum of Captains
603
:Laura: Yeah.
604
:So that makes me wonder
605
:Xhafer: Sure does.
606
:Laura: why is Gaius
insisting that he needs…
607
:'Cause he keeps going to Lee throughout
this episode and being like, "My
608
:people need a seat at the table,"
but you're gonna get one anyway.
609
:Xhafer: two
610
:Laura: Oh, is that , what it is?
611
:Xhafer: It has to be.
612
:It's just like they're gonna have one.
613
:So does he-- Now, is he going to Lee
preemptively because he thinks they
614
:won't get seated when they roll in
despite following all of Lee's rules?
615
:Laura: Mm.
616
:Xhafer: Or does he-- Is he trying to get
two and he wants a special extra one for
617
:his religious group to be recognized?
618
:Laura: Yeah.
619
:Xhafer: I could see either.
620
:Yeah
621
:Laura: but yeah, Paula's giving
us all this information and
622
:6PT has gotta add her little,
623
:Xhafer: Yeah.
624
:Laura: thing about,
625
:Xhafer: Get in there
626
:Laura: Yes, Gaius, it's time."
627
:Xhafer: It's the series finale.
628
:I mean, the end times.
629
:Laura: I mean, that's incredibly
ominous to have a little person
630
:in your head that's been following
you around for four seasons and now
631
:they're talking about the end times.
632
:Xhafer: I would be very unnerved,
assuming I'd gotten used to the person
633
:who only existed in my head anyways.
634
:Do you know they make
schizophrenic service dogs?
635
:Like service dogs for
people with schizophrenia,
636
:Laura: That's an interesting idea.
637
:Xhafer: they train the dog to like,
you know, you'd be like, "Puff, greet.
638
:Greet."
639
:And they go up to a person and
acknowledge them when you say
640
:that, the person that's there.
641
:And if they don't go up to a person,
you know that you're seeing somebody
642
:Laura: Ah.
643
:That's cool
644
:Xhafer: R-right.
645
:Laura: Yeah.
646
:That could be so helpful for
somebody who has trouble with that.
647
:Xhafer: Right.
648
:Just like, "No."
649
:Just the dog just looks
up, he's like, "Nah, bro."
650
:Just us.
651
:Yeah
652
:Laura: Man,
653
:Xhafer: Yeah!
654
:Laura: that is a useful tool that
is catching on, 'cause that's neat.
655
:Xhafer: It is neat.
656
:Thank you, random TikTok.
657
:Laura: oh, speaking of people that
are not there, , who the fuck is
658
:Calvin that Gaius is talking to?
659
:In this next scene, we have Gaius,
flashing back to Caprica, and he's
660
:talking to this kid on a balcony
about how there's never enough,
661
:and he calls him Calvin, and I was
662
:Xhafer: Yep
663
:Laura: the fuck is this?"
664
:Xhafer: Fun fact, Calvin is only in
the extended cut of this episode,
665
:is never referenced or mentioned
or viewed in anything else, and
666
:we have no fucking idea who he is.
667
:His Wikipedia page is blank.
668
:I found, like, a Reddit thread that
was like, "Who the fuck is Calvin?"
669
:And there was a bunch of people going
like, "Yeah, bro, no one knows."
670
:Uh, a, a neighbor's kid
is the prevailing theory.
671
:Like, he's just a neighborhood child
672
:Laura: No, no, no.
673
:He is his Boys and Girls
Club little brother.
674
:That's my head
675
:Xhafer: fun.
676
:So there's two things I do wanna
call out about the name here though,
677
:because the name is likely one of two
references, the first being Calvin and
678
:Hobbes, Calvin being the boy who sees
his imaginary friend all the time.
679
:So that's a fun little
like, "Hey, Gaius," right?
680
:Because of 6PT.
681
:And then the other is, John
Calvin, the founder of…
682
:John Calvin?
683
:Calvinism?
684
:Laura: I think that's
685
:Xhafer: The religion.
686
:Uh, the, the predeterminist, no free will
religion, which is also, , interesting
687
:ties to, uh, Gaius' current set of
beliefs and juxtaposed against them.
688
:So it's likely a reference
to one of those two things.
689
:I think it's a cheeky Calvin and Hobbes
joke they just snuck into the finale.
690
:, And they just had to find
a way to make it work.
691
:Laura: No, I choose to
692
:Xhafer: but
693
:Laura: his Boys & Girls Club little
brother because he's also, like, having
694
:a glass of booze and maybe smoking a
cigar too as they're having this balcony
695
:Xhafer: Yeah
696
:Laura: and that's just really funny to me.
697
:Xhafer: That's pretty funny.
698
:Yeah, I'm here for it.
699
:I'm gonna go edit that wiki right now.
700
:Just make up a whole history
for Calvin with no references
701
:on the Battlestar Wikia.
702
:Laura: Make some nerds real mad today
703
:Xhafer: And, well, that's the thing is a
lot of these wikias, they're only found
704
:these days by podcasters doing shows
on older shows, older watch with shows.
705
:So it'll just end up on some
other "Battlestar" podcast at
706
:some point and no one will know.
707
:Laura: Yeah, the meaningful moment
of this conversation is that Calvin
708
:is like, "Would you change your life?
709
:Would you do anything different?"
710
:After all this like, oh, you know,
there's never enough anything talk.
711
:we have just silence.
712
:We don't know
713
:Xhafer: Yeah.
714
:, We see Kara doing the
math and the music here.
715
:She's taking all the notes from Hera's
thing and all along the watchtower
716
:and trying to piece it together.
717
:Tai is talking to Hoshi, who
has spilled coffee on the table.
718
:Laura: He, I guess it, whatever Saul
started with w- opener was so shocking
719
:that Hoshi, like, knocked his stuff
720
:Xhafer: Yeah.
721
:Laura: though.
722
:He's, like, trying to mop up the
coffee with not enough napkins.
723
:At the same
724
:Xhafer: Yeah
725
:Laura: telling him that, like,
"Here's how it's gonna go.
726
:Adama's gonna be the last one."
727
:Xhafer: Yeah.
728
:We're gonna leave one launcher tube,
we're gonna set it to automatic
729
:controls, and he's gonna leave the ship.
730
:The last person to leave the
ship will be Adama in a Viper
731
:Laura: ja
732
:Xhafer: As we see Adama looking in his
empty quarters and having big feels
733
:Laura: ominous ship noises
in the background, yeah.
734
:Mm-hmm
735
:Xhafer: Some of these creaks, man.
736
:We haven't gotten to it yet, but, , next
episode, spoilers 'cause we've already
737
:talked about it, the ship jumps.
738
:Laura: Yeah, it becomes clear at the end
739
:Xhafer: And
740
:Laura: gonna do that.
741
:Xhafer: yeah, , and when it jumps, the
Foley work on the creak has stuck with
742
:me since the original airing of the show.
743
:Laura: Prepare to
744
:Xhafer: It is like the definitive creaking
noise in media for me in my brain.
745
:And I don't even know if it's
gonna hold up, 'cause at this point
746
:it's been blown out of proportion
in my brain meats, so who knows?
747
:Hera, we learn, is on hunger strike
748
:Laura: Yep.
749
:Not eating anymore.
750
:Not since our mind
751
:Xhafer: Mhm , then we go flash back
a little bit and we see the start
752
:of Tyrell and Boomer's relationship
before cutting over to Tyrell and Helo
753
:Laura: Tyrell has gotten
incredibly cynical
754
:Xhafer: Yeah, Teryl is just
like, "These Cylons, they're
755
:machines, they're blow-up dolls.
756
:They're always untrustworthy
because we made them untrustworthy
757
:Laura: same, and Hilo is insisting,
you know, "I know my wife.
758
:I know Athena.
759
:She's not like that."
760
:And Tyro's like, "Nah, brah,
you should not trust your wife."
761
:Xhafer: Yeah
762
:Laura: Wow.
763
:Tyrrell.
764
:I mean, he's got some
real baggage with Boomer
765
:Xhafer: Yeah, well, I mean, he
said he was an idiot at the start
766
:of the speech, and all he does
afterwards is prove himself right.
767
:So good job, I guess
768
:Laura: Yeah.
769
:At least you got one thing.
770
:Hot Dog is carrying Nikki through
the halls and drops his photos.
771
:Adama picks them up and Dogs tells him
like, "Hey, these are our pilot friends.
772
:I got them off the wall 'cause we didn't
want them to down with Galactica."
773
:Xhafer: is this the first time
these two have shared a scene?
774
:I feel like that can't be true
775
:Laura: talked to each
other in a scene, I think
776
:Xhafer: 'Cause Hot Dog, of
course, is Edward James Olmos'
777
:son in real life, Brody Olmos.
778
:So it feels like this was just kinda like
shoehorned in for them to have a scene.
779
:Laura: Yeah,
780
:Xhafer: Yeah, to have some
interaction in the finale, and
781
:frankly, super cool with it.
782
:Laura: Yeah
783
:Xhafer: it's the perfect type
of fan service in my opinion.
784
:The little thing where if you know, it's
fun, and if you don't know, it's innocuous
785
:Laura: Yeah.
786
:It's cute and, you know, Hot Dog's like,
"You know, there's a bunch of photos still
787
:left 'cause, like, nobody remembers who
they are anymore," like people from the
788
:Xhafer: Yeah
789
:Laura: attack that we have lost others.
790
:And, Adama goes to look at those
photos and finds Hera's picture there,
791
:Xhafer: Yeah
792
:Laura: he just cannot walk away
793
:Xhafer: Yep.
794
:He grabs it off the wall and is moved to
action After this, we see Gaius talking to
795
:Lee, but Lee's not particularly interested
796
:Laura: same-ly.
797
:Xhafer: Yeah.
798
:He's, his stunt last week with Kara
proves that Gaius only cares about
799
:Gaius, but he eventually agrees to
offer him five minutes of his time
800
:Laura: case, yeah
801
:Xhafer: Adama checks in on Kara.
802
:She confirms that she found her
body on Earth and burned it.
803
:Adama tells Kara that he knows
exactly what she is, his daughter.
804
:Laura: Ja.
805
:Xhafer: Hugs.
806
:She plugs in Anders to ask him a
question, and we flash back to Anders
807
:before the fall of the colonies
where he's being interviewed for,
808
:like, CSBN or whatever that would be.
809
:I don't know.
810
:Laura: Yeah.
811
:Uh, it's funny, they're interviewing
him in his, like, recovery tub.
812
:He's, like, having
813
:Xhafer: Yeah
814
:Laura: tub to relax his muscles
or something, they're like, "Hey,
815
:don't you wanna win a championship?
816
:You're almost too old for this game.
817
:You're gonna have to retire soon,
and you haven't won a championship."
818
:And he's like, "Nah, man,
I just love the game.
819
:I love the perfection
820
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm
821
:Laura: doing a really
good shot," or something.
822
:And I think it's…
823
:calls it the perfection of creation, and
I was like, "Hmm, is this, like, his,
824
:Xhafer: Hmm.
825
:Laura: his final fiveness
coming through, like, breaking
826
:through all of his mind wipes?"
827
:Xhafer: Yeah.
828
:It feels that way, doesn't it?
829
:Laura: Yeah
830
:We go Back to hybrid Anders
muttering about finding a
831
:perfect world for Karethrace.
832
:Xhafer: Mm, mm-hmm.
833
:Laura: I'm like, "Ah, has he, has
he realized that there's only two
834
:more episodes left and we have
to find a world for these people?
835
:Oh my God."
836
:Xhafer: I mean, we don't have
to, but it'd be nice if there's
837
:gonna be a happy ending we do.
838
:, Laura: And then Adama and Starbuck kind
of pass the buck to each other about who's
839
:gonna talk to him and ask him the question
840
:Xhafer: After this, Gaius pleads
to get a seat on the council
841
:for his religious movement.
842
:Lee refuses because
Gaius only serves Gaius.
843
:Laura: Угу
844
:Xhafer: He's all like, "Oh, so I didn't
pass Yee Adama's good person test."
845
:And Lee's all like, "Fuck you.
846
:You don't pass your own test
for being a good person.
847
:Name one selfless thing you've
done in your entire life.
848
:Go."
849
:Laura: And he can't.
850
:Xhafer: Nope
851
:Laura: like, "All right, I guess I
wouldn't trust me either," and walks away
852
:Xhafer: Cut back to Caprica in the past
853
:Laura: Yeah.
854
:Lee's drunk.
855
:He's arriving home drunk,
856
:Xhafer: Yep.
857
:Yes
858
:Laura: a pigeon in his house
859
:Xhafer: He just breaks everything
trying to get this pigeon out
860
:Laura: is the bird we saw at the
beginning that was, like, bumping up
861
:Xhafer: Yeah
862
:Laura: it's in Lee's house
and he's trying to get it out.
863
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm
864
:Laura: really exciting happens
except he breaks everything.
865
:He does say something at the very
beginning that makes me think he's coming
866
:home after the dinner Zach and Kara
because he says something that I think
867
:is referencing back to Zach's comments
about how he always steals his girls.
868
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm.
869
:Laura: But
870
:he said something drunkenly that
I was like, "Oh, he's, he's,
871
:annoyed about that comment."
872
:Xhafer: Угу
873
:Laura: we got a bird to deal with first
and then we get the bird out of the house.
874
:Okay
875
:Xhafer: Yeah we head down to the hangar
deck where Adama and Starbuck put a
876
:literal line down the middle in tape.
877
:Laura: yeah
878
:Xhafer: They are going to try
and rescue Hera, and we get all
879
:of the people that are basically
still on the ship together, right?
880
:This is also, , they're talking about it.
881
:This is a really fun scene.
882
:There's a lot of interesting stuff
going on here in the background.
883
:We see lots of characters
884
:Laura: too as we're explaining
like what Adama's doing is like Hot
885
:Dog's telling some pilots what's
going on, and then Ellen's talking
886
:Xhafer: Yeah
887
:Laura: and like, you
know, it's the rumor mill
888
:Xhafer: Yeah, it goes all around the ship.
889
:This is a great way to give us the
exposition of the thing while including
890
:many characters' thoughts on it that'd
be very hard to get in individual scenes
891
:without having a ton of extra time.
892
:So it's so cool.
893
:This is one of my favorite scenes
in this episode, and probably one
894
:of my favorite scenes in the show
just 'cause it's so masterfully done
895
:Laura: It's natural.
896
:It's
897
:Xhafer: It doesn't feel jarring at all.
898
:You're watching and you're like,
"Oh, so Hot Dog feels this.
899
:Oh, so Lee says this.
900
:Oh, so every…"
901
:And you know just about everyone's
stance before they get down there
902
:where everyone is going to be
expected to make their decision.
903
:And we do mean everyone has to go except
for, like, four people in CIC who are
904
:to report to Adama's office and tell
them their decision once the other
905
:people get back from going and making
their decision in the big dramatic thing
906
:Laura: Yeah.
907
:And we get, the most interesting
reaction, I think, to this is
908
:when Helo is telling Athena, and
909
:Xhafer: Yeah
910
:Laura: despondent, and she is not
okay, and she does not think…
911
:She thinks that because Cavill's
had hair at all, hair is not
912
:Xhafer: Yeah
913
:Laura: not ever be okay.
914
:Xhafer: Yeah.
915
:Laura: But Helo is our
916
:Xhafer: Yeah
917
:Laura: who insists that she's wrong
918
:Xhafer: Yeah, Hilo has a lot of hope,
and Athena's like, the best case
919
:scenario is that she's cut up on slides.
920
:Like, anything else, Cavill
could be doing with her is worse
921
:Laura: So sad.
922
:But Helo's carrying that torch.
923
:He's, he's not
924
:Xhafer: Yep
925
:Laura: this pessimism.
926
:And then we're gonna show Cavil
mocking Hera and her polka
927
:dots that she keeps drawing.
928
:He doesn't understand that
these could be anything.
929
:He does not give a
930
:Xhafer: No
931
:Laura: hey, Simon's back.
932
:Xhafer: Yeah.
933
:Simon and Doral in this scene.
934
:Laura: But only Simon speaks,
at least in this episode.
935
:Xhafer: Yeah.
936
:Laura: But she's, she needs more nutrition
before we can do testing, Simon says.
937
:Like, she, she's
938
:Xhafer: Yeah
939
:Laura: and that's not gonna be good.
940
:But Cavill doesn't give a fuck
941
:Xhafer: We, cut back in time and see
Boomer talking with Helo, and she's
942
:all excited about hooking up with the
chief and true love and all this stuff
943
:Laura: Mm, gross.
944
:Xhafer: we see Roslin agree to a
blind date to stop being bothered into
945
:joining Adar's presidential campaign.
946
:Laura: want this to…
947
:Xhafer: This is weird, right?
948
:Laura: is weird.
949
:I do want to know if this was anything,
'cause this person that she's on the phone
950
:with sets her up with a Sean Ellison.
951
:Um, she was having an affair
with Adar at some point, we
952
:learned from the show, right?
953
:Xhafer: Did we?
954
:Laura: could have sworn
955
:Xhafer: I don't remember that, but
get in the Discord and tell us.
956
:Laura: thought there was a brief like,
oh, it turns out she was having an affair
957
:with him, and he, like, sent her away , to
be this education person because of that.
958
:I don't remember exactly.
959
:Xhafer: Huh
960
:Laura: But I was like, "Okay,
who's Sean Ellison then?
961
:Fuck."
962
:Like, it's probably nothing.
963
:It's probably just, like, Calvin.
964
:But we cut that into her
putting on her wig in Galactica
965
:Xhafer: She's putting on her wig and
heading down to the deck 'cause she's on
966
:the ship, so like everyone else, she's
gotta go and, uh, make her decision
967
:Laura: Daddy absolutely would
not have cared if Roslin did not
968
:come, 'cause he knows how bad off
969
:Xhafer: Well, I mean, it's not that he
wouldn't have cared if she didn't come.
970
:She would've gotten a pass and then
we go down to the deck as Adama
971
:tells everyone, "This is happening.
972
:It's time for you to pick your sides."
973
:And Lee is the first to volunteer
974
:Laura: Yeah.
975
:I get it, but also I was like,
man, he probably shouldn't do that.
976
:Like, 'cause this government
977
:Xhafer: you're like the
president right now, right?
978
:Laura: dude doing the president stuff.
979
:You should probably take
care of the people, but okay.
980
:volunteers are going to Starboard side.
981
:The final five are
982
:Xhafer: Yep
983
:Laura: over except, Tyrol does
have to, like, pull Tori along.
984
:like, be a fucking idiot," basically.
985
:Like, "Get over here."
986
:Uh,
987
:Xhafer: Yeah.
988
:Laura: refuse Doc Cottle.
989
:He's like, "No, no.
990
:You're too
991
:Xhafer: Yeah
992
:Laura: here.
993
:You cannot come."
994
:Xhafer: Yeah
995
:Laura: comes over.
996
:Gaius
997
:Xhafer: Mm-hmm
998
:Laura: like he's gonna do it,
like he's thinking about it.
999
:Xhafer: He's thinking about it
:
00:43:08,771 --> 00:43:11,931
Laura: but then Roslin comes
over first, and he does not
:
00:43:12,394 --> 00:43:12,824
Xhafer: Yeah
:
00:43:13,310 --> 00:43:17,910
Laura: And, Kara's holding Rosalyn
up after Adama helps her over to the
:
00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:20,590
volunteer side, and Gaius does not
:
00:43:22,222 --> 00:43:22,632
Xhafer: Nope.
:
00:43:23,404 --> 00:43:27,094
more and more people, they make their
choice, and then the sides are drawn,
:
00:43:27,564 --> 00:43:30,294
and we cut over to the recon mission.
:
00:43:30,664 --> 00:43:33,324
We got Racetrack and Skulls
on another recon mission.
:
00:43:33,684 --> 00:43:36,624
They've been offered amnesty for
supporting Geta's mutiny for their
:
00:43:36,624 --> 00:43:40,204
participation in this mission
And then we get their readout.
:
00:43:40,384 --> 00:43:44,494
The colony, uh, they found
it is near a black hole.
:
00:43:44,827 --> 00:43:48,530
, There's only one point to jump in
and out of, and there's a big ship
:
00:43:48,530 --> 00:43:51,260
right there that's gonna just blow
them up the second they jump in.
:
00:43:51,937 --> 00:43:54,757
And the admiral says,
"It's time to get to work."
:
00:43:55,887 --> 00:44:00,257
And this is where Wikipedia
says the end of part one is
:
00:44:00,502 --> 00:44:01,592
Laura: So that's where we stopped
:
00:44:02,431 --> 00:44:03,661
Xhafer: So that's where we stopped
:
00:44:03,721 --> 00:44:04,221
Laura: Ja
:
00:44:04,486 --> 00:44:07,116
Xhafer: I don't have an episode
description for parts two and three
:
00:44:07,116 --> 00:44:08,786
because I'm not gonna say anything.
:
00:44:08,983 --> 00:44:11,433
Laura: there's probably
not a lot you can do
:
00:44:12,985 --> 00:44:16,165
Xhafer: I don't think it's fair to
rate this episode, because it's…
:
00:44:16,795 --> 00:44:21,025
I mean, long-time listeners, when
we hit part one of a part two,
:
00:44:21,055 --> 00:44:25,025
and part one is all exposition and
build-up for part two, we typically
:
00:44:25,025 --> 00:44:26,825
don't even favor those episodes.
:
00:44:26,825 --> 00:44:28,375
Usually they're not particularly…
:
00:44:28,915 --> 00:44:30,065
They're important, but they're not…
:
00:44:30,705 --> 00:44:32,375
Sometimes they're good,
sometimes they're okay.
:
00:44:32,895 --> 00:44:36,885
This one is so intrinsically linked
with parts two and three that it seems
:
00:44:36,935 --> 00:44:40,615
disingenuous to rate this episode
outside of it as a collective whole
:
00:44:40,768 --> 00:44:43,548
Laura: glad you say that 'cause I was
trying to put a rating on it in my mind,
:
00:44:43,548 --> 00:44:46,848
and I was like, "Well, I'm, like, super
intrigued about all the flashback stuff,"
:
00:44:47,398 --> 00:44:52,998
but really, like, nothing substantive
happened on Galactica except that, like,
:
00:44:52,998 --> 00:44:58,131
we confirmed that, like, yeah, of course
we're not gonna just dismantle the ship.
:
00:44:58,141 --> 00:45:01,371
We're gonna do a big last stand,
which, like, you knew in your
:
00:45:01,381 --> 00:45:03,001
heart was gonna happen anyway,
:
00:45:03,031 --> 00:45:03,381
Xhafer: Yeah
:
00:45:03,411 --> 00:45:05,521
Laura: just put do- we laid
all the groundwork for why
:
00:45:05,521 --> 00:45:06,801
and how we are doing that.
:
00:45:07,641 --> 00:45:09,581
And so, like, okay, you know?
:
00:45:10,447 --> 00:45:11,807
Xhafer: And that, yeah, that's it really.
:
00:45:11,807 --> 00:45:14,017
So, that's our episode.
:
00:45:14,099 --> 00:45:15,069
Laura: Yeah, that's fine
:
00:45:15,237 --> 00:45:16,637
Xhafer: And we'll be back next week.
:
00:45:16,677 --> 00:45:21,287
But before we're back next week, we
should really say thanks to Jeremy Siegel.
:
00:45:21,657 --> 00:45:23,347
Jeremy, thanks so much
for our theme music.
:
00:45:23,887 --> 00:45:27,797
You can find more of Jeremy's work
at jeremysiegel42.bandcamp.com
:
00:45:28,399 --> 00:45:30,939
Laura: And, another thanks
to Angry Duck Time Machine on
:
00:45:30,949 --> 00:45:32,649
Instagram for the podcast artwork
:
00:45:33,003 --> 00:45:35,053
Xhafer: Aaron, we have
not been making it easy.
:
00:45:35,423 --> 00:45:36,233
I know this.
:
00:45:36,483 --> 00:45:38,363
I know we've been doing
lots of time crunches.
:
00:45:38,643 --> 00:45:39,683
It's been very busy.
:
00:45:40,363 --> 00:45:42,503
I appreciate you making sure
that we get episodes out.
:
00:45:42,683 --> 00:45:48,263
I know that that's been a lot of work
for you, and I want to do better for you.
:
00:45:48,543 --> 00:45:49,043
So,
:
00:45:50,085 --> 00:45:51,285
Laura: We are committing to
:
00:45:51,293 --> 00:45:51,533
Xhafer: you
:
00:45:51,865 --> 00:45:54,995
Laura: Jafer committed to doing
better so hard that he thumped his
:
00:45:54,995 --> 00:45:56,665
desk and his camera went wonky.
:
00:45:57,827 --> 00:45:58,477
Xhafer: It did.
:
00:45:59,247 --> 00:46:04,707
Uh, you know, you, you've made it so
that the listeners haven't noticed the,
:
00:46:04,777 --> 00:46:08,897
, last-minute recording dire straits we've
been in for three weeks at this point.
:
00:46:09,337 --> 00:46:12,487
so listener, you thank Aaron.
:
00:46:12,857 --> 00:46:17,867
, We'll thank Aaron, and we'll put our money
where our mouth is by trying to record
:
00:46:17,867 --> 00:46:19,277
a little bit more in advance for you.
:
00:46:19,337 --> 00:46:19,607
Laura: Yep.
:
00:46:20,177 --> 00:46:24,877
And listeners, if you want to
say anything about anything
:
00:46:24,895 --> 00:46:25,815
Xhafer: Like thank you to Aaron.
:
00:46:26,217 --> 00:46:32,247
Laura: Thank you to Aaron or like
thoughts about Battlestar Galactica,
:
00:46:32,497 --> 00:46:36,107
you can probably go ahead and start
getting those in for the wrap up episode.
:
00:46:36,127 --> 00:46:37,507
You can send them via email.
:
00:46:37,507 --> 00:46:39,917
You can send us a message in the Discord.
:
00:46:40,417 --> 00:46:43,327
Uh, probably, thought
:
00:46:43,357 --> 00:46:46,687
I didn't discuss this with you, but
probably funnel those at Jafair 'cause he
:
00:46:46,717 --> 00:46:48,557
usually catalogs those things together.
:
00:46:49,297 --> 00:46:52,127
we will include your thoughts
when we get to the wrap up.
:
00:46:53,057 --> 00:46:54,037
thanks for being here
:
00:46:54,104 --> 00:46:54,404
Xhafer: Yeah
:
00:46:54,427 --> 00:46:57,067
Laura: on this long, beautiful journey
:
00:46:57,583 --> 00:46:58,003
, Xhafer: Yeah.
:
00:46:58,093 --> 00:46:59,313
And I'll see you next week, internet
:
00:46:59,471 --> 00:47:00,571
Laura: bye
