Join me and my buddy San Quinn as we dive deep into the hustle and grind of the music industry, where legends are born and stories are told! We kick things off with San sharing his journey, where he started writing raps at just 14 and has been shaping the Bay Area scene ever since. We chat about the ups and downs he faced, from navigating the rough waters of the industry to the triumphs of launching careers for artists like Messi Marv. Trust me, this episode is packed with wisdom, laughs, and a whole lot of real talk that’ll inspire anyone chasing their dreams. So grab your favorite snack, kick back, and let’s get into it!
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Speaker B:What's up?
Speaker B:What's up, y'?
Speaker B:All Back with your girl, Dr. Stanz, where we turn the hustle in the legacy.
Speaker B:Y' all know every month I'm on the prowl, and I'm looking for legends, period.
Speaker B:I don't give a damn where you from.
Speaker B:So I was blessed to have my platform, even more blessed with a legend.
Speaker B:We got my guy saying queen here.
Speaker B:What's up, brother?
Speaker A:How you doing, doctor?
Speaker B:I'm good, Quinn.
Speaker B:I was so excited.
Speaker B:Prompt on time.
Speaker B:I always shout out to people that's on time because that's just respect when you're late.
Speaker B:It's not respectful.
Speaker B:So I was just glad that you tapped in with me.
Speaker B:Shout out to Mo.
Speaker B:My guy.
Speaker A:Big shout out to Mo.
Speaker B:Big shout out to Mo.
Speaker B:Bank money, it ain't your money.
Speaker B:What do you say?
Speaker B:Bank money, it ain't your money.
Speaker A:It's the bank's money.
Speaker B:He shout out to my guy and my brother Capone for lining a lot of shit up.
Speaker B:But I'm excited you made it, and I just appreciate your presence.
Speaker B:First of all, you got that goddamn anthem.
Speaker B:What's that song?
Speaker B:I didn't see that is my song.
Speaker A:That's in San Francisco, period.
Speaker B:They clowned me so bad because, you know, I've been posting your ass.
Speaker B:And niggas was like, he's from San Francisco.
Speaker B:I said, well, Bay Area, give me a break.
Speaker B:I see he from the Bay, but, you know, I get it.
Speaker B:Like, you got a lot of fans, brother.
Speaker A:Yeah, they love you.
Speaker A:They love you.
Speaker B:They respect.
Speaker B:And you've been doing a lot in the rap game.
Speaker B:Tell me about that.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:First off, before I get you started, I asked and did a little research on you, of course, right.
Speaker B:And a lot of people was just like, he got a story to tell.
Speaker B:What are people referring to?
Speaker A:Yeah, well, you know, I started when I was 14 years old.
Speaker A:I'm 48 years young now, so I started when I was 14 writing raps.
Speaker A:Writing my own raps, you know, so that was back then.
Speaker A:And since then, I mean, I put Messi Marvin, the Game.
Speaker A:I'm responsible for him being out.
Speaker A:I wrote the Nathaniels, the Red Rag, Mexicans.
Speaker A:I put them in the rap game in the Bay Area.
Speaker A:Burner is inspired off of me.
Speaker A:Young Burner, you know, he taking things to different heights.
Speaker A:I mean, you know, Big Rich Bailey, basically.
Speaker A:I put people on.
Speaker A:It's a story behind it all.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:My.
Speaker A:My.
Speaker A:Somebody.
Speaker A:I ran the company with Done Deal Entertainment.
Speaker A:My co CEO, Charles Kelly.
Speaker A:They Call him Frisco Chuck.
Speaker A:He works with Nick Cannon right now at Wild N Out.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Okay, you know, so a lot of it come from.
Speaker A:From God, first of all, to me, right?
Speaker B:He sent you?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:People want.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And it happened to me because my career, I didn't get put on, right.
Speaker A:They kind of.
Speaker A:I was signed to Priority and you know, my big bro was in charge of the record deal.
Speaker A:He was young, but just.
Speaker A:He had plenty marketing promotion for his album.
Speaker A:And then on my album, which is still a classic to this day, it also continues, I didn't get no promotion, so.
Speaker A:And then we lost the deal and Master P and then was, you know, it's two sides to a coin.
Speaker A:We was losing side and Master P bubble.
Speaker A:We had the same record deal and everything else.
Speaker A:So from that, from that, I could have curled up and I just wanted to discover Messi Marv.
Speaker A:And we did an album called Explosive Mode.
Speaker A:And that was started Messi Marv's career.
Speaker A:Who's one of everybody's favorite.
Speaker A:But I take it in like when they say he's.
Speaker A:He's their favorite.
Speaker A:That's me too.
Speaker A:I'll take that period.
Speaker B:I love that.
Speaker B:I love that.
Speaker B:I'm proud of you for staying so strong in the game because I know being in the industry, especially from the Bay, and it's not easy, right?
Speaker A:No, it's not.
Speaker B:What were the challenges for you?
Speaker B:Besides that, what you mentioned, as far as you not taking off like your partner did.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, I mean, he, he.
Speaker A:He ain't went nowhere either because he's still out here.
Speaker A:He's not able to change lives.
Speaker A:You know, we ain't none of us blew up yet.
Speaker A:I'm still trying to make it.
Speaker A:Believe it or not, I haven't.
Speaker A:I ain't been nominated for no Grammys and you know, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:We ain't at the front row, no award ceremonies and nothing like that.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:It was always a dream or ambition of mine to be recognized worldwide for the music we make, and it's still local.
Speaker B:This is the thing though.
Speaker B:A lot of people have different definitions on making it.
Speaker A:Yes, they do.
Speaker B:You understand what I'm saying?
Speaker B:And just because you may not be on all these billboards and all this, you still made it, though.
Speaker B:You made it through shit.
Speaker B:The storm, the troubles, you know, all the.
Speaker B:Especially being in East Oakland.
Speaker B:It ain't the easiest city to make it on top of a gang of gatekeepers, a gang of haters, is that just down there.
Speaker B:Don't want to see you Win.
Speaker B:So at the end of the day, to me, you made it.
Speaker B:That's why I have you here.
Speaker B:This is my perception now.
Speaker B:Your perception of yourself may be different, but to me, when I called Big Boy, I'm like, give me that slap from San Quentin.
Speaker B:That was my anthem, you hear me?
Speaker B:So to me, I look at you different.
Speaker B:I look at you as a legacy.
Speaker B:That's why I had you on the platform, me personally.
Speaker B:So I don't want you to feel like you didn't make it.
Speaker B:Nick made it.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's still.
Speaker B:And you still making it.
Speaker A:It's more to do.
Speaker A:It's just more to do, that's all.
Speaker B:I like how you word that.
Speaker A:That's one of my lifetime sayings, is more than I'm from Fillmore in San Francisco, but it's just like East Oakland.
Speaker B:You might as well say it's the best thing.
Speaker A:When I go to la, this is what my LA partners do.
Speaker A:I'm in la, they say, I got my partner from Oakland with me.
Speaker A:They won't say San Francisco.
Speaker A:I'm so grown at this point.
Speaker A:I was born in Oklahoma, I was born in Oakland, but I was raised and raised in San Francisco.
Speaker A:It's the same thing.
Speaker A:We just from the same place with different addresses.
Speaker B:But your fans don't say that.
Speaker B:They got on me when they said, well, they didn't get on me bad, but they was just educating me like, man, he from Frisco, man.
Speaker B:You need to change that.
Speaker B:I instantly win, change San Francisco, San Francisco, period.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker B:But I guess it is just a Bay Area thing.
Speaker A:Yeah, I don't like the Raiders.
Speaker A:I don't like the A's.
Speaker A:I barely like the warriors because they used to play too close to the Raiders.
Speaker A:And they used to be training the players when I was young.
Speaker A:So I grew up liking the Lakers.
Speaker A:Cause they was winning like the 49ers.
Speaker A:LA.
Speaker B:I mean, I'm just saying, so.
Speaker A:But I'm a bandwagon warrior.
Speaker B:And it's all, we all from damn near the same culture.
Speaker A:Same culture, same same place, different addresses, period.
Speaker B:You get what I'm saying?
Speaker A:I respect Northern Californians.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker B:You got any kids?
Speaker A:I have five children.
Speaker B:How many baby mamas?
Speaker B:San Quentin.
Speaker A:I got to notice three baby mothers.
Speaker B:That's not too bad.
Speaker A:You did okay.
Speaker A:I got two that I on purpose and one accidental child that happened.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:But she's here, you know, and I got three grandkids.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:My two sons, my two elders.
Speaker A:His name Galaxy, you know, H2O.
Speaker A:They rap.
Speaker A:They rap.
Speaker A:They signed the Burner.
Speaker A:My son is actually starring in the movie the Burners putting out called Splash City.
Speaker B:Oh, really?
Speaker B:Make sure you send me that when he come out.
Speaker B:I need to see all that.
Speaker A:I think it's gonna be in the movies.
Speaker B:Show me that.
Speaker B:I need to make sure you please
Speaker A:tap in so I can show you my Instagram.
Speaker A:You can see a little.
Speaker B:I need the.
Speaker B:On the platform.
Speaker A:You gotta have them both on there.
Speaker B:I need it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Both of my sons.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I did a lot of right.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker A:I'm just not with resting on my laurels, that's all.
Speaker A:And this is more to do.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:And it's always gonna be more do.
Speaker B:Even when you feel like you made it.
Speaker B:If you notice, like, even superstars, they always still trying to chase a bag, Right.
Speaker B:And they sitting on a big bag that we probably would never touch, but it's just always something to do.
Speaker B:I struggle with that mentality too.
Speaker B:You know, people on the outside are looking and be like, oh, you doing good.
Speaker B:But they were like, no, nigga, I don't feel like I made it yet.
Speaker B:Like, I'm doing right, you know?
Speaker B:But I got people like you that supported me.
Speaker B:I appreciate you on this platform, period.
Speaker B:Bank Money, shout out.
Speaker B:All of you guys supporting me, and I just appreciate that.
Speaker B:That's why I want to support y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker B:Anything y' all need, I'm here.
Speaker B:Platform.
Speaker B:You got new music coming out.
Speaker B:Talk to the people about what you got coming out.
Speaker B:It's my anthem.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Well, you know, right now, me and Bank Money just came together on a record card.
Speaker A:Are you still down?
Speaker A:You know, people, after.
Speaker A:After 30 years of making music, it's.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:You know, you're always gonna be number one, but it's like, as long as you still rapping on beat and my mama said, got your two front teeth and a little hair on your head, you can, you know, you keep yourself together.
Speaker A:You still could be in it, but are you still down?
Speaker A:Is out right now.
Speaker A:That's my.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yup.
Speaker A:It's a statement.
Speaker B:It's this.
Speaker B:That's my anthem.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because people give up.
Speaker A:They quit on you, you know, And a lot of these.
Speaker A:A lot of people, people in general, music is.
Speaker A:Mediocrity is accepted now.
Speaker A:So I'm not with the mediocre.
Speaker A:Just accepting it because you could.
Speaker A:Because you could rap.
Speaker A:Like, you gotta be able to rap good.
Speaker A:I'm from that era.
Speaker A:But I wanna hear you say something that I haven't heard before or meaningful that's behind it, right?
Speaker A:So that's what's out.
Speaker A:We got all kind of stuff coming up, so you gotta come with that.
Speaker A:I'm just dropping singles right now.
Speaker A:I got clout chasers I just dropped.
Speaker B:I heard it.
Speaker A:I'm doing singles, just dropping singles.
Speaker A:Got albums coming out.
Speaker A:But just focus on the singles.
Speaker A:And I got a new group called 2 Dope Men.
Speaker A:Okay, 2 Dope Men, where it's me.
Speaker A:I got a new alter ego, a new name.
Speaker B:That's a new thing right now.
Speaker B:I'm noticing that the mechanic said it.
Speaker B:Everybody, he's Barry Racks.
Speaker B:Everybody got this alter ego.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker B:So I'm liking that.
Speaker A:My name is the Bricks.
Speaker A:Everybody's name that come from 2 Dope Men is a group of six people, right?
Speaker A:And everybody's named after a kilo.
Speaker A:So like it's Kilo, the birds, the bricks.
Speaker A:Nine times flow, 18 times 18 to second power.
Speaker B:I like that.
Speaker B:Actually creative, right?
Speaker A:And on the album cover, it's gonna be six albums, right?
Speaker A:Everybody get to pop out one at a time.
Speaker A:But whoever's album it is, like say for Kilo is my little partner from my block.
Speaker A:He white in Mexican, right?
Speaker A:He gonna be the first one to come out.
Speaker A:All our faces gonna be covered up.
Speaker A:You know, like when people blank stuff out.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:It make me mad on the Internet.
Speaker A:Like why you gotta blink out?
Speaker A:So for me being mad, I'm like, oh, it's the mystery that make you want to know.
Speaker A:So it's just me creating that.
Speaker A:So on the first one he'll be.
Speaker A:You'll see his face and we'll be telling like his story and it goes to the words.
Speaker A:And then we do his and mine and everybody's face get blank.
Speaker A:The blank come off of everybody else face get blanked out.
Speaker A:Then one pop out.
Speaker A:So it's gonna be over a year or two or three.
Speaker A:But it's a long range concept and
Speaker B:it give everybody a chance to shine.
Speaker B:Personally, I like that.
Speaker B:But everybody's still on the team, on
Speaker A:the same team, period.
Speaker B:I like that.
Speaker B:I actually linked up with your boy Cheese.
Speaker B:Cheese, I'm obsessed with him.
Speaker B:That's my thanks to you.
Speaker B:He made them flyers.
Speaker B:He's the one that make my fly shout out to Cheese.
Speaker A:That's big.
Speaker A:I love wonderful dude Aqua Cheese.
Speaker B:He makes my flies.
Speaker B:I didn't told him, listen, every month I need you making my flyers now.
Speaker B:So all them flyers he been making for.
Speaker B:That's Cheese.
Speaker B:He's super solid dude.
Speaker B:Very solid.
Speaker A:Latino brother from North Daniel from.
Speaker A:From Little Mexico, Redwood City.
Speaker A:The Latinos people support me so much.
Speaker A:Like, I love my black people.
Speaker A:Of course, the brothers that just say, example, per se.
Speaker A:Somebody I went to school with and say, oh, you still rapping, Queen?
Speaker A:Oh, that's cool, man.
Speaker A:I ain't heard nothing in a while since she was on the radio.
Speaker A:And then Latino would say, man, I got the.
Speaker A:Oh, you still down, man.
Speaker A:And I got cloud chasing, man.
Speaker A:Keep going.
Speaker A:So not to draw a line, but just to support the support.
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker A:Yeah, the support.
Speaker A:And you know, I support them, too.
Speaker A:So Cheese is like my brother, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:And I hooked up with him when I was living in Sacramento and making my two youngest kids royalty and Prince Adams.
Speaker A:Because the kids is okay.
Speaker A:One baby mama got two kids, another baby mama got two kids, and then the baby one got one.
Speaker A:Yeah, she's all right there, hon.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:His real name's Quincy Zaki Ezanaya Royalty and Prince Adams is my youngest.
Speaker B:Oh, Prince Adams is actually the whole.
Speaker A:That's his name.
Speaker A:He don't have a middle name.
Speaker A:His name is Prince Adams.
Speaker B:I like how y' all put it all in one together like that.
Speaker A:I wish I would have named him Shut the up.
Speaker B:He must be the worst one to get on your nerves, right?
Speaker B:I had one and was done.
Speaker B:I think, you know, being a single parent just kind of just up my mind like, oh, yeah, I don't want to do this again.
Speaker B:It's a lot of work raising kids.
Speaker A: th of: Speaker B:No way.
Speaker A:Left with a daughter and a son.
Speaker A:And I try to bring her into a step parent environment.
Speaker A:And the girl I was around wasn't built to be a step parent like that.
Speaker A:She just.
Speaker A:It ain't for everybody.
Speaker B:It's just not.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:And that's okay.
Speaker B:Respectfully.
Speaker A:Yeah, she doesn't, you know, it's hard to deal with, but it is what it is, you know, they mine no matter what.
Speaker B:Damn.
Speaker B:I see.
Speaker B:I just was talking, I believe dlo, which is another single parent on the show.
Speaker B:I think I put out a lot of controversy when that.
Speaker B:When I said men aren't built to raise kids, and everybody took that as, oh, my God, there's a gang of single.
Speaker B:I wasn't saying it like that.
Speaker B:I'm saying biblically, you know, women are more nurturing, you know, we more soft, we're sensitive.
Speaker B:Men are meant to you know, be stern and build a home and women make a home to.
Speaker B:So I take my hat off to you because it's not easy raising kids,
Speaker A:especially with somebody with a step parent.
Speaker A:She's like, you go soft on them.
Speaker A:But I have to be the nursery part.
Speaker A:Cuz you don't love him like you.
Speaker A:And you can't give them no instructions and don't give them no love.
Speaker A:Don't give them nothing.
Speaker A:If you ain't going to love them, you can't be dictating no nothing because you just being mean.
Speaker B:Correct.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Correct in their mind.
Speaker A:So she says a lot of the wrong things.
Speaker A:Very intelligent lady one way.
Speaker A:But just when it come down to the kids, she just ain't not talking no restraint over her mouth.
Speaker A:I say, I've been been married twice.
Speaker A:I say every time I left, guess who was mine?
Speaker A:My kids.
Speaker A:So of course I'm like, if you make me choose, I choose them.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna let you run them to the ground verbally then, you know.
Speaker A:Well, you just.
Speaker A:I'm like, no, I give them confidence to be they still.
Speaker A:So their opinion matters.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Like they're just talking to.
Speaker A:I'm the dad.
Speaker A:And when I say go no, say what you mean.
Speaker B:And feel free to say differently too.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:So he's not as strict.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:But still I have my way of parenting.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:It's not strict, but it's.
Speaker A:I'm observing.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:And when it's time to attack, I attack.
Speaker A:But it's not going to be a
Speaker B:constant attack saying and that's what makes your kids comfortable to come tell you everything.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:That's what make your kid comfortable to be like, hey pops, look, I got a boyfriend or I got a girlfriend.
Speaker B:My kid told me she was gay.
Speaker B:You were bi.
Speaker A:She told you?
Speaker B:She told me.
Speaker A:At least she told you though.
Speaker B:Most kids hide that man.
Speaker A:My kids tell me everything.
Speaker A:I love that some people say they go to.
Speaker A:They go too far.
Speaker A:They know what I know what it.
Speaker A:When I don't, when I don't accept it, I, I know how not to accept it.
Speaker A:I don't need you to tell me how to accept and reject, you know,
Speaker B:because they your kids and can nobody tell you how to raise your kids.
Speaker B:You had them, but it's always a commentator or somebody that got something to say about everything.
Speaker B:I'm sure.
Speaker B:Like even you've been in the rap industry.
Speaker B:You like you said she might have Hispanics or yo Nathaniels that support you more than I feel the same.
Speaker B:You Know what I mean?
Speaker B:Me stepping into this limelight, a lot of don't support me like that.
Speaker B:But the ones showed up, they showing out for me.
Speaker A:You feel me?
Speaker B:And I appreciate that.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker B:Like cuz it's just a lot of gatekeepers and haters and it's like you don't even really be nothing or nobody.
Speaker B:And they just got.
Speaker B:They just find a reason.
Speaker A:It seemed like you said people didn't have no talent.
Speaker A:They had the most things to warrant.
Speaker A:Your opinion is not warranted.
Speaker A:You see what I'm saying?
Speaker A:I say you're not in my energy.
Speaker B:No period.
Speaker A:I'm not even listening to you.
Speaker A:You got all the choices in the world.
Speaker A:You wake up to be a naysayer when you.
Speaker A:You don't have to kiss my ass.
Speaker A:But at least if you don't have what your grandmother used to say, you ain't got nothing good to say, don't say it at all.
Speaker B:And I think a lot of people these days struggle with that.
Speaker B:And another thing, if you.
Speaker B:What I noticed too, is the lack of support and help when, you know, when you may see somebody down, people just beat you down more.
Speaker B:Why not support me?
Speaker A:Come on, man.
Speaker B:Why are you.
Speaker B:If you see I'm struggling, pull me to the side and help me.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:If you see I'm having a tough day, talk to me instead.
Speaker B:Everybody want to judge and pick up the phone and be messy.
Speaker B:I know, I know you probably deal
Speaker A:with that a lot of the time, all the time.
Speaker B:How do you deal with it?
Speaker A:When I was young, I always wanted to be somebody.
Speaker A:I didn't have no big brothers, no big cousins.
Speaker A:Growing up in the Fillmore, I lived in the Victorian houses around the project.
Speaker A:Kids and everybody who had family had backup.
Speaker A:So I wanted to make a name for myself.
Speaker A:So my little brothers and little cousins, we don't have to worry about that when they got away.
Speaker A:So being picked on and talked about, I just took it in and I absorbed it and use it.
Speaker A:I reversed the energy.
Speaker A:I used to look at the inquiry magazines and say, if I want to be big, I got to be willing to say I'm on gay man smoking crack.
Speaker A:And they lying.
Speaker A:You know, I got to be able to accept that because I asked for this other part to be famous.
Speaker A:So they say life is bittersweet, right?
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:You got to take the bitter with the sweet.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:So it ain't always gonna be good, but as long as you're talking about me and I know my truth, you're relevant.
Speaker A:You're Right.
Speaker B:Hey, I like that.
Speaker B:I said too.
Speaker B:I like that because, you know, everybody.
Speaker B:And I feel like not everybody, but a lot of people wanna be famous.
Speaker B:A lot of people wanna be in the industry.
Speaker B:Like, even me doing this.
Speaker B:And I'm noticing.
Speaker B:I just did the little.
Speaker B:I did an interview with a few people, Lord Rapp and all these people, and I'm seeing the comments like, you know, and I don't tie into it.
Speaker B:To me, it's funny.
Speaker B:They talk, you know, like they were saying, well, your mama was a doping and it ain't nobody's fault that drug dealers.
Speaker B:So that is hilarious to me.
Speaker B:And me, honestly, starting this platform, I didn't know it was gonna go as big as it's doing so rapidly.
Speaker A:Right, right.
Speaker B:So I know you coming up in the industry, did that happen for you?
Speaker B:Like, you got in as soon as you got in, just like, quick.
Speaker B:Like, how did you deal with it rising quick?
Speaker A:Nah, it really was.
Speaker A:It hasn't been quick.
Speaker A:It's been.
Speaker A:It's been slow.
Speaker A:Not how I thought in my mind.
Speaker A:When I was 14, I thought I was going platinum off the back.
Speaker A:I'm platinum.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:I used to.
Speaker A:Kris Kross is my arch nemesis.
Speaker A:So I'm trying to diss them.
Speaker A:I'm trying to diss them.
Speaker A:Hey.
Speaker A:And I went nowhere around him.
Speaker A:Mac Mall ended up being the same age as me because I thought I was no other youngster rapping in the Bay Area.
Speaker A:But Mac Mall was a little older than me, but, like, my age.
Speaker A:And sonically, his album sounded great.
Speaker A:They had it mixed down, right.
Speaker A:They're good.
Speaker A:And then I found from there that, hey, you gotta.
Speaker A:This is always somebody doing something better, right?
Speaker A:So it's just always go back to the drawing board and keep going.
Speaker A:So when I came back, hooked up with jt, we sounded good and I ended up having a song with Magma.
Speaker A:But Matt Ma, he.
Speaker A:He took off because he already had Kyrie and them established making music.
Speaker A:So sonically, his music sounded great.
Speaker A:Mine wasn't mixed down correctly.
Speaker A:I had all these kinks because I'm coming into the industry when dudes are just starting to put albums out, which I appreciate a lot.
Speaker A:Jiggalo G, rest in peace, Steve, WD Jam, they helped me out, but sonically, we didn't sound as good as Mall, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:So that was just.
Speaker A:And one of many things, and that's trying to get on the radio.
Speaker A:We had to do jingles to the radio, say something, but then throw their name in there.
Speaker A:It's never like a radio song.
Speaker A:Took us years to get on the radio.
Speaker A:Then we finally got on the radio.
Speaker A:Then we get to mtv barely.
Speaker A:And, you know, it's just.
Speaker A:It's always.
Speaker A:We always scraping at the service.
Speaker A:But now the kids is kind of coming up and they're at where we.
Speaker A:Where I wish that we would just be at, like, being in Atlanta.
Speaker A:Just say you go to Atlanta, you ain't gonna hear no Barrier Records in the club.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:The fuck here.
Speaker A:Tell me when to go.
Speaker A:Maybe.
Speaker A:Yeah, but when we could go to Atlanta and hear 5, 6, 7 Bay Area records back to back then, you know, I mean, the level of success, like, you going to hear Atlanta out here, six, seven records, but you ain't going to hear the Bay Area, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:So that.
Speaker A:That's just different levels.
Speaker B:A little bit they be with too short.
Speaker A:You know, short is like free from out there.
Speaker A:Damn near.
Speaker B:Yeah, they.
Speaker B:They play short, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:They play a little with an E40, but not.
Speaker B:I feel like the town like y'.
Speaker B:All.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, J style and keep the sneak.
Speaker B:Like, they don't play a lot of that dlo, you know, because they probably don't know it.
Speaker B:And that's okay.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Eventually, this the town will be put on, you know, I think show and E40 has done a marvelous job.
Speaker B:It took to me a long time
Speaker A:for them to get put on.
Speaker B:If you think about, like, decades, damn.
Speaker A:Especially.
Speaker B:They still going.
Speaker B:They still going.
Speaker B:Hats off and shout out to them.
Speaker B:Hopefully I can get y' all on the platform next.
Speaker B:But I just, you know, I'm really proud of you for, you know, even though I know it's tough.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, is your.
Speaker B:Are you close to mom's pop.
Speaker B:How was your childhood?
Speaker A:Not in doubt.
Speaker A:My mother.
Speaker A:I love my mother in all my heart.
Speaker A:My mom is very supportive.
Speaker A:See, I'm with my daughter right now.
Speaker A:Mom's like this.
Speaker A:She used to work, work for me when me and JT had Getlo Records and his mother worked.
Speaker A:And my mother worked for both of us.
Speaker A:So my mother's been very supportive in this.
Speaker A:And jt, the bigger figure, is a big brother, you know what I mean?
Speaker A:We always big bro.
Speaker A:So he.
Speaker A:He raised me in the game, so he always raised me with an independent mentality.
Speaker A:Like, just don't be happy taking no picture with nobody.
Speaker A:Get a record out of them.
Speaker A:Get you some currency out of it.
Speaker A:Just don't be no goopy type motherfucker.
Speaker A:Get the work done you know what I mean?
Speaker A:By yourself.
Speaker A:And make sure that you take care of the people.
Speaker A:So I'm humble.
Speaker A:Sometimes people say people, please.
Speaker A:Or I'd rather people be happy around me.
Speaker A:It's a time to reveal my gangster handle or my man handle.
Speaker A:Just ain't the people that support me.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Yeah, that's hard to get, to be honest.
Speaker A:Yes, I am close to my mother and my stepfather, who was like my biological father because he raised me.
Speaker A:He used to date Sugar T. Shut up.
Speaker A:Yeah, so he gave for.
Speaker A:He gave 40.
Speaker A:Not the song.
Speaker A:He always say, let me sprinkle you with some game.
Speaker A:So kind of like my father named Stomp down, he's on 40's album.
Speaker A:He owned a couple 40 albums talking, really.
Speaker A:Nikki.
Speaker A:Nikki and I stitched together with the stupid eye.
Speaker A:That's my father.
Speaker B:See, I appreciate E40 for shouting that out and going back to where he originated, you know, got originally.
Speaker B:That's respect.
Speaker B:I really respect that.
Speaker B:I actually reached out to Weezy E. Sugar T, like, Right hand.
Speaker B:I've been trying to get her on the show, too, because I know she's starting a lot of stuff with the youth.
Speaker B:What would you tell youth that are now up and coming, trying to get in the industry?
Speaker B:Like, some barriers that they making, like, skip over.
Speaker B:So, you know, some of the stuff that you struggle with.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I always say, I got a saying that if I got pissed on the front of my shoe, right.
Speaker A:No, I got on my knees up to my knees, I'm gonna tell you to take the shortcut so you can just maybe get pee on the front of your shoe.
Speaker A:You get me?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So you don't have to walk through the.
Speaker A:I walk through.
Speaker A:I'm always gonna tell you, look, go this way.
Speaker A:Now, if you listen, you listen.
Speaker A:If you don't, you don't.
Speaker A:I'm always gonna tell them to do without what I mean.
Speaker A:So one of the things is this.
Speaker A:McDonald's still promote market, and they got billions of dollars.
Speaker A:So anything that you do that, any product you're trying to get out there, you got to promote, market it.
Speaker A:And if anything, if I got a budget, you say, I got $100,000 right.
Speaker A:Now I spend $80,000 on promoting, remarketing my product in order to get it to get return.
Speaker A:Because you got to put.
Speaker A:You got to put the word out
Speaker B:there, you got to invest.
Speaker A:You gotta invest in promoting marketing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's the biggest thing.
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker A:And be original.
Speaker A:But if you're gonna be a copycat or whatever, promote market, and brand branding is everything.
Speaker B:I learned that too.
Speaker B:In this industry branding, if you promote
Speaker A:market, it should be something that you branded is yours.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:So yeah, they go together.
Speaker B:Equality.
Speaker B:Shout out to Percy, top producer over there that produces top quality.
Speaker B:Because you know, I'm looking at a lot of podcasts and I invested a lot into mine because I wanted to set.
Speaker B:Not to even set the tone.
Speaker B:It was an accident, to be honest with you.
Speaker B:This is just how I wanted to present myself because a lot of people are podcasting and starting it and a lot of people think they can do it.
Speaker B:It's actually not easy.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker B:It's not easy at all.
Speaker A:I have a failed podcast.
Speaker A:Yeah, see, I have a failed podcast.
Speaker B:That's hard.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And the dude that I was doing it with, he had another agenda in his head.
Speaker A:See, I'm open.
Speaker A:Don't be trying to trick me and have me doing stupid shit.
Speaker A:And you know what, what you doing?
Speaker A:And just for your.
Speaker A:For your game.
Speaker A:So he named it after one of my Hustle continues.
Speaker A:But it's one episode.
Speaker A:He on our way to the.
Speaker A:To the place he was telling me ask this question, ask this question.
Speaker A:And it was just somebody that was his peoples right.
Speaker A:And he knew this was kind of touching that he was going to have me ask him.
Speaker A:So when I asked him, he was
Speaker B:like
Speaker A:some cynical and had the right idea, but just was trying to use me and then trying to one up me.
Speaker A:So you do have your setup, right?
Speaker A:I'm pretty sure you probably mix it and all of a sudden all that count because we had the table.
Speaker A:We keep hitting the table.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:It was tacky.
Speaker A:It was a try.
Speaker A:We tried it, but it ain't had your together.
Speaker A:Your is nice.
Speaker A:Thank you so much.
Speaker B:And it's funny because look, I had all this right here, all these questions and in my mind this ain't me.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:I'm authentic.
Speaker B:It actually makes me up.
Speaker B:I can't read all these goddamn questions.
Speaker B:I'm off the head.
Speaker B:I'm authentic.
Speaker B:I know a lot of people say, you know, I wrote a book for my whole CEO.
Speaker B:I got you a copy.
Speaker B:But a lot of people say, you know, I'm an open book.
Speaker B:And to be a little bit more mysterious, which that's unfortunately is not who I am.
Speaker A:You a Scorpio?
Speaker B:No, I'm a Leo.
Speaker A:You a Leo.
Speaker B:What's your sign?
Speaker A:I'm a Scorpio.
Speaker B:Oh my God.
Speaker B:Percy.
Speaker B:Everybody that came up in here damner is a water sign.
Speaker B:It's just everybody that damner Done sat in his seat.
Speaker B:Besides Lil Easy, I think.
Speaker B:And mechanics were water signs.
Speaker B:I attract so many water.
Speaker B:Because maybe I'm fired, y'.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker B:It's opposite my kid.
Speaker A:My two youngest kids is Leo's.
Speaker B:How y' all get along?
Speaker B:Y' all don't.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker A:They think they want the floor all the time.
Speaker A:August 5th, August 22nd.
Speaker A:Daughter is like a Virgo.
Speaker B:I was just gonna say.
Speaker A:Yeah, she like a Virgo.
Speaker B:She more reserved.
Speaker A:But the Prince Adams, he think he.
Speaker B:Man, you ain't gotta tell me.
Speaker B:Leo.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker B:We do go a little crazy.
Speaker A:You can call him theatrical.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Very animated.
Speaker A:Very animated.
Speaker A:Don't know when you like when is.
Speaker A:Is it really a problem or is it not.
Speaker A:God damn it.
Speaker A:Called me earlier today.
Speaker A:Dad.
Speaker A:Dad.
Speaker A:I'm like, what's up, bro?
Speaker A:He said, iPad ain't charging.
Speaker A:I said, man, I'm gonna you up, bro.
Speaker A:You mean you call me in here, oh, my goddamn iPad not charging up.
Speaker A:I just paid hella money to get it fixed.
Speaker A:And you mean to tell me to charge it up?
Speaker A:You call.
Speaker A:You yelled out loud.
Speaker A:Don't call me no more than say nothing.
Speaker A:I don't care if you burning up.
Speaker A:Burn the fuck up.
Speaker B:You go mess up my makeup and my lashes going to have to flow.
Speaker B:That's hilarious.
Speaker B:Because we are definitely we over act.
Speaker B:We over exaggerate a little bit.
Speaker B:We do, I got to say.
Speaker B:And everybody can't handle that energy because you very calm.
Speaker B:You like water.
Speaker B:Very calm.
Speaker B:You don't like your energy and your pizza.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker B:You like just smooth sailing.
Speaker B:That's like P Money.
Speaker B:P Money.
Speaker B:Very reserved, you know, Very cool thing.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:Virgo.
Speaker A:Virgo.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Virgo.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But they're particular.
Speaker A:Particular.
Speaker A:And they get it done.
Speaker A:Big Rich is a regard.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he gets.
Speaker A: They have: Speaker A: m and his wife reached out to: Speaker A:Everything.
Speaker A:Just very proud of my little brother.
Speaker B:Same.
Speaker A: And I'm a part of: Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Just because I'm a part of what my.
Speaker A:My people do.
Speaker A:Well, what.
Speaker A:Why would I want to start something different when he doing good in management?
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:And I. I wouldn't say, let me manage you just to manage you.
Speaker A:I'm gonna send you this team.
Speaker B:I like it.
Speaker A:You know, I mean, I'm about push it where it needs to be and supporting.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:See that dude I was doing a podcast with?
Speaker A:He wanted to manage what he didn't.
Speaker A:He didn't even know I had two DVDs out.
Speaker A:He wasn't even researching who I was wow.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm sitting on money that I need to get.
Speaker A:And he could have researched some shit and we be having $100,000, but he's so focused on himself that he wasn't supposed to manage.
Speaker A:And I got love for him, but I can't stand his love, if you want to say that.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:He can't stand away letting me.
Speaker A:So it's a lot of that.
Speaker A:So he up the podcast, and I it by thinking that he needed that title, he made me don't even want no manager no more.
Speaker A:I don't need no manager.
Speaker A:Just, you know, because I want to be responsible for myself and y', all, y', all.
Speaker B:Y' all water signs do not play that cutoff game is a fool.
Speaker A:And y' all be like, if I
Speaker B:don't like it, I'm out of ear.
Speaker B:But look, I'm so glad you came.
Speaker B:You drove super far to come see me.
Speaker B:I love you to death, and I'm just extremely proud of you.
Speaker B:That song is my literally anthem.
Speaker B:I'm not even.
Speaker B:Y' all need to check that.
Speaker B:I literally you in serving hood is on my top hit list right now.
Speaker B:Graduation.
Speaker B:And are you still down by San Quinn?
Speaker B:And I wanted to gift you because I want to tell you I'm proud because now every morning that I wake up and I listen to that anthem.
Speaker B:Cause you back in action.
Speaker B:Finna get to the street.
Speaker B:You going to get to this music.
Speaker B:So when you do it, I want you to do it in style.
Speaker B:So look up under.
Speaker B:Where's his?
Speaker B:Oh, his is over there.
Speaker B:Can you hand it to me, Percy?
Speaker B:Normally you supposed to look up under your seat.
Speaker B:It's okay.
Speaker B:I still got you, though.
Speaker B:He the first one behind it?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You see it?
Speaker B:Give it to him.
Speaker B:Just give it to him, period.
Speaker B:Yeah, we bless you.
Speaker A:Oh, this is nice.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:You got the Versace roll, period.
Speaker B:Listen, bless my guy.
Speaker A:What the.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Dr. Stacy got a goddamn me and they gave me nothing.
Speaker A:I think I got some socks for Christmas, man.
Speaker B:Two years ago, you got a Versace robe.
Speaker B:And I want you to wear that gracefully and shot my ass, man.
Speaker A:I'm gonna think about you in the right way every time I see it.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:With your cold.
Speaker B:Put your war you up.
Speaker A:Okay, floss flame, come on down to Dr. St. Come on down and get your interview, man.
Speaker A:Listen, I like this right here.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:Well, last but not least.
Speaker B:Anything else you want to tell the people?
Speaker B:I know you got a lot coming soon.
Speaker A:Yeah, I do.
Speaker A:I do.
Speaker A:I'm looking at this right here.
Speaker A:I definitely want to give a shout out to, you know, a long live shout out to, to my auntie man, you know.
Speaker A:Barbara Ann Edmondson.
Speaker A:Barbara Ann Edmondson is bank money's mother.
Speaker A:She raised a great son.
Speaker A:I didn't get to meet her personally, but through meeting her son right now.
Speaker A:He's a selfless person.
Speaker A:He don't want to be.
Speaker A:He's with the Bay Area needs for business infrastructure and not somebody who wants to be out in the spotlight and great dude since I met him and she did a great job with her son and we just, she just went on home last week and they did the burial the other day.
Speaker A:I just want to pray for everybody to pray for my boy to have strength and peace because he's needed out here and his mother, her spirit is still alive.
Speaker A:So long live shot Barbara Ann Edmondson.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker A:That's what I want to say.
Speaker A: ds you can just hit San Quinn: Speaker A:And big shout out to Galaxy NH2O.
Speaker A:My sons, you know, and you and what you got going on.
Speaker B:Thank you San Quentin.
Speaker A:We love you.
Speaker B:We love you so much.
Speaker B:We thank San Quentin for coming, blessing our platform.
Speaker B:And so guess what?
Speaker B:You turning your hustle into a legacy with Dr. Stanz.
Speaker B:We will holler we out.
Speaker A:Sam.