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And welcome to another show of Don't Get This Twisted. I am Rob, along with my co host as always, Tina. How you doing?

I'm hanging in there, Rob. How you doing?

you know, not too bad. It's starting to get warm.

Yeah, it's been it's it's gonna be a hot week.

Little

yeah, that's what I saw. It's gonna be fun.

Still not weather for the pool though because it gets cold in the evening but I'm I'm I'm wishing it on.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like

I mean it's coming. You'll you'll have it soon enough, I think. I I don't think we're gonna go without for sure. Yeah, so who knows? Hey you know last week we we just did a a fun show of just chatting around and we talked about doing this show. I I had sent you a video.

They pissed me off.

The the yeah, the kind of. I I obviously I don't think I sent it to piss you off. I sent you to kind of show you how

How other people could piss me off?

Just how bananas

Women are towards men.

I think some of that, but I I also wanted to really kind of show you both sides too of like just how TikTok is. I think it's both 'cause there's guys I'm sure that do the same thing. But I I I don't I I run do it I run into it on on YouTube because I I happen to watch some videos and now it's in my algorithm.

I don't know, I don't run into that crap, to be honest.

With that being said, you know, the whole red pilling, I've told you about that where, you know, guys now are starting to really just despise dating?

Yeah. I could see why. Yeah.

And yeah, I I'm gonna play something for you here. it's part of the video that I sent you. And it's this girl kind of explaining how she likes to

Have guys yeah, treat dudes. So let's let's see. I want I just listen to this real quick. It's their effort, they don't need a man. Love inspiring fear in men's hearts. It's a guilty pleasure. I don't know what about it just feels so fun and satisfying. But just the thought of knowing that a man has fear in his heart for me is so much fun. Number one, if a man is talking and I don't like what he's saying, I'll be like, Why are you yelling at me?

And he could literally be whispering. All of a sudden, he's aware of his voice. All of a sudden, he's aware of his body. This is something that women are constantly aware of. Our voice, our body, how we're being perceived. So I'm like putting them in the hot seat for a moment. Something else I like doing is jokingly saying what I want. For example, if I want someone to buy me an Uber, I'll be like, hello, sir. I know you're a rich multi-billionaire. would you mind buying me a ride so I can home?

And I think this works just because it's like an amusing way to say what I want. And I think when men are around women who say what they want, they're kind of afraid. But because you're joking about it, they can't really pinpoint what it is that unsettles their spirit. And lastly, something that I love doing is literally just saying no. Like sometimes a man will speak and I'll be like, No.

And it'll it'll not even be a question and he'll just be confused. And the reason why I think this works is think what Trump is doing, right? Like he's moving so fast that we don't even know how to keep up. We don't know how to make sense of it. So when you're just saying random things like no or even ill, like it's hard to wrap your head around. You have to like pause and think about what the context was and

That just inspires more fear in their hearts. And I will say the reason why I'm even able to do this though is because I nurture a very deep sense of community with the women in the environment. So I can terrorize the men because I know the women have my back. If the genders were reversed for a second, these statements would be considered hate speech and we would be banned from all social media platforms. So Yeah. I I don't even know where to start. I

Mm.

You know, it seems like women are just learning to be master manipulators and they're not coming from an authentic place and they're definitely not in their femininity, like they talk about men and their masculinity. Well, they're if they were in their femininity, life would go so much smoother. But instead they're manipulating and they're they're

Justifying bullshit that men shouldn't put up with.

I mean, I I think if if more men are hearing crazy shit like this, that they're going to run to the hills so fast, it it won't even be

Well, or they're or they're going to start treating women that could possibly be good for them bad just because they're coming from a place of being defensive and, you know, trying to to protect themselves and and I can't say that I blame them because what I just heard pisses me off. Like i

Yeah.

Nothing's gonna get better if if everybody's manipulating.

Nothing and and nobody's gonna have a good relationship and kids are still gonna be born into this bullshit. And how are they gonna live? Like like another part of that video that you sent talked about, you know, how the mother if the mother despises the dad and the kid looks like then she's gonna put that on the kid as well. I've seen that happen. It's not like it doesn't happen, it does. But how is that gonna fix anything in in the world that we live in?

It's yeah, absolutely not. And I I think what this is doing for both sexes is teaching them to push each other even further apart.

And to not have healthy relationships.

There's there's this one. I'm gonna play this one. Well, I played it for you just before we got on. This is the the girl talking about money. and basically how how that if you don't have any, you know, women'll just leave. And I think it's teaching for one the wrong message for

For women. It's like not spend money on me. There is no point. I do not continue the relationship. There is absolutely no purpose that that man serves in my life. And the standard is so easy to uphold because either men act right and start spending money on you and take you seriously, or you literally just go get another man. There are so many men. Like I don't think men understand. Like the options are freaking endless. If you don't act right, Jim, Tim, and Billy Bob Joe will. And the source of the now. I I think what you're going to

But by that measure, I think you're you're going to start teaching men to spend whatever they can, get what they want, and then never call you again. So women are just gonna get used up on a very small amount of money and then get ran through, and the guy's just gonna go on to the next gold digger. And I know that's a horrible thing to say, but it's kind of the truth, mostly if you have money.

You know what I mean? And you're you're teaching and I'm

Or that they it just that they could do whatever the hell they want because they paid for you for the day. That's that's never gonna win either.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well. And if you think, and and again, I'm gonna say something that's gonna sound bad, and I'm sure I'm gonna get some hate for it. Here here's the thing though. A as a woman, yeah, you might be able to manipulate you know, the next dude and the next dude, but sooner or later, you're you're gonna run out of whatever it is, your looks, your attitude, all these things are gonna you're gonna hit a wall somewhere.

And then what? Then, you know, i you end up, you know, y you're going to end up with for one either an abusive dude because he's gonna take the I pay for everything literally.

Or you're gonna just end up with a guy who I mean, literally will end up hating you at the end.

Well and then she's never gonna be able to get close enough to have a real relationship with them either with that attitude. Like it's just it's never gonna happen.

I I wanna say something, but I I don't know if it's a hundred percent true with with women, but I do believe that everyone can be in the situation of always looking for the next best thing.

See it.

I think it's a little bit more with women just because I think that they they see that as a you either be good or I'll replace you.

at least from what I see. And again, I I watch a lot of these things that take a lot of clips and throw them together. So it's easy to get upset. 'Cause you're being fed the shit sandwich. You know what I mean? So the more you get the shit sandwich, the more you're

Yeah. Well when when you sent it to me, I was like the human. I was like, Are we really even having to talk about this?

Yeah, and I just sent you one. I could have sent you another five or six videos. Yeah, that is that that are just get even more out of control.

for that.

It's worse.

yeah. There there's a girl, I forgot what she does, but her thing is sprinkle sprinkle. It's basically her whole thing is just use men. Cause that's all we're good for. Yeah. And I I think look, we're teaching both sides horrible things. You know, I don't want to say that you know, because there's men out there, the manosphere, that are also teaching.

dudes to not be good people.

So it's it's on both sides. but I think you're seeing you're just seeing the downfall of humanity, of people, of couples. You know, I was listening to another podcast the other day, and you know, birth rates are down exponentially, like bad. And it's not just in America, it's all over the world.

Basically to like right now I think most couples and I know that I I'll say the half, but that's how they do it, it's one point five children per person. To but the numbers of what you need to do to keep society going is two point five.

Yeah, we're a whole person behind. And and that's worldwide. So you're talking about countries that have like obviously no baby shortages that have babies at will. And then you have the ones now that are just stopping having babies for whatever reason. younger people now I think are being are

are being taught wrong. Like their whole thing is, you know, live through your twenties and then you can have babies in your 40s. And it's like, can you? Yeah. Is it is it the best thing to do? Hmm. No. It matter of fact, it's for one, not healthy. Even though, yes, science is better and having a baby at 36 now, 37,

But yeah, I know.

Even though it is still high risk, it's much more likely that you're gonna be okay.

But I think look, I I had a kid at 30. And part of that was I don't want to go too much past that because when I went to his high school graduation, I didn't want to I didn't want anyone going, your grandpa's here. I didn't want to be like, because I mean I remember even when we went to school, some there were some older parents.

I do recall.

And and and again, I mean, I didn't think anything of it then 'cause I just you know, we were young and dumb. But looking back on it, I was like, shit, like you your parents were probably gone by the time you were thirty. You know, 'cause

Well it look in my my mom died at fifty nine. I was forty when she passed away. You know, and that so there you know, for

That that doesn't have anything to do with it. I know I know somebody that we went to school with whose mom's still alive and she's in her eighties. I would say mid to upper eighties. And, you know, that's a whole like ten years older than like my dad was, what you know, having having me.

Right. Yeah. I mean, look, if you're if if we're breeding these people or children or whatever to not like each other, what are we doing to the future of the world? You know, it's like it's it's kind of it's not even kind of, it's scary. And and it's bleeding into

every generation now, right? Because everyone's hearing this crazy shit. They're ta you know. And look, I I I heard something that I thought I don't think it was on that video, but I I think I had heard something today where they're like, you know, women want a man to support them. Right? Or but they still want to go out and work. And and I heard this one girl go

Yeah, he's gonna he's going to take care of me and all whatever money I make's mine.

And I was like, are you insane? Like, no, that that's not how it works. Not in the real world. You might you might try that shit, but I I don't think that that's realistic. Not anymore.

No, absolutely not. 'Cause they're men are struggling just as much as women are just to make ends meet on one income. So well why are they gonna want to take on another person who doesn't want to help and burden them even further? It doesn't make sense to me. I wouldn't want to do it.

And it

Mm-hmm.

Right. Well, and then and then the flip side of that is if you're married that you're one. At least to me. Like and I know that maybe I'm just I mean, I haven't been in a serious relationship in quite a while. But I even when you know, when me and my wife were married, we everything went into one account. Like it wasn't we didn't go like, well, I

We we had separate accounts that had like a s very small amount that went into it so we could, you know, buy things for each other or, you know, whatever. But it was never like, you know, big. It was very small and just kind of like, hey. But I s

Well, and I think that's healthy too. You should have your own as well as joint.

Yeah. Yeah, I think you should have something for yourself, but you should the the massive amounts of your income should go into one pot. So everything is taken care of. And that's where I think the the these women are being pretty much told like this man should take care of every single thing. I saw a girl on one of these videos said that she

A man should pay for her hair and nails to get done for the date.

Really?

Yeah. I was like, Are you out of your fucking mind? First of all, you're gonna do that shit anyway. So why would I pay for your nail you're gonna get your nails done and your hair did anyway? Like in general.

So that that would be like, and then another girl, another girl was on there and said, you know, you need to send me money beforehand as to show you're serious. And I went, you're psycho. People like that are psycho. Could you imagine a man going, you better put a deposit down so I show up?

Maybe like next.

Yeah, we we would all be like next. That's that's insanity talking. And people are now thinking this way as a way of life.

And look, w you you c you can't want a traditional man and not be a traditional woman.

It that you you can't have your cake and eat it too. And now men men now are just dropping out of the dating pool. They're like, whatever. I'd rather be alone and not spend my money on some girl who's not gonna appreciate it, and I can just go do the things I like to do, do my hobbies and golf and

Spend more time with my kids.

Yeah, hang out with my kids and then see my my best friends and go, you know, go golfing with you know, whatever it is, whatever your your shtick is. Now it's becoming to the point where that's what men are doing. And they're they're just giving up because they don't want to get caught into the trap of of women thinking that they're just ATM. And

Yeah. Well it sounds to me like women are just making it they're making the statement that men have no value, that they're worthless and there's no need for them and they're just supposed to buy into how wonderful a woman is and that's just and then the women that are talking just I I wouldn't buy into it.

I had heard something. So the whole thing sometimes is the quote, what do they bring to the table? Okay. a lot of women will say, like, what does a man bring to the table? And if they're not bringing, you know, financial stability, protection, whatever that is, that's what they should be doing.

Well, there was a guy on one time and he goes, Well, what are you bringing to the table? And and the answer for a lot of women is me. I'm bringing me to the table. And the guy goes, Well, what does that mean? What what is you? Like, you mean you just Yeah. Or just because you're pretty and we can have sex doesn't mean you're bringing shit to the table. Are you gonna bring

Yeah.

What monetary value do you have to make my world better? Yeah.

Peace to my life? Are you gonna, you know, are you gonna be there when I need you? These are the reality things. I don't pretty girls are a dime a dozen. And I know women don't like to hear that, but it's true. Because pretty, you could be stunningly beautiful, and I mean like model beautiful. And a guy will choose a regular girl that makes him feel like he's the best thing in the world over her every single dime.

He he won't even blink. He'll be like, Yeah, whatever. Because he knows that that that hot girl, the one is way too much trouble. Where the girl who brings in peace and wants to hang out and go have dinner, you know, next to the lake with a drink is much better.

So I think women, and look, men and men to a degree think they bring more to the table than they do. And and and men are just as guilty on some things where they're just like, well, I do this and I do this. It's like, yeah, but do you do make sure she's okay mentally? Like, you know.

And the flip side is if you ask your woman, hey, is you know, do you need to talk about anything? Do you need anything? I think women need to be a hundred percent honest these days and go, yes, not no, I'm fine. And then your world's falling apart. Because we've talked about it on this pod a bazillion times. Men take everything literally.

If if a if a woman asks me, hey, are you okay? And I go, Yeah. I am. I'm not you don't need to come on the the the back side of that and go, Are you sure? Yeah, I'm I told you I was fine. I'm a hundred percent fine. I I get it. You'd know if I'm not. Where this is where like there's too many chess games being done. And I'm sure that we did it as as younger people too.

This isn't anything new. I just think it's being blown out of proportion now. Everything is big.

It's super toxic. And there's no like there's no getting around that. I couldn't imagine having to deal with somebody with that kind of attitude. I

Mm-hmm.

Do you do you find this kind of talk going on with people that are around you in the hair industry?

No. No, because I I think I'm at an age now where all of my clients have been in relationships for a long time. I mean it not to the severity that I that I heard on this the podcast you sent me.

Yeah, there's that's that's ultra severe, that's why. I don't think that there's and again, if you if you we would re watch this, I would say no one in that video is over thirty.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, 'cause that's just it's just a different belief system. We were raised with with men and we were raised to respect them and it's just a different culture, it's different time in in society for sure.

Yeah. I heard something where

Like this guy was trying to say what men really want. And because we kind of get this stigma that we want like a sex pot. We want I think men want to be in love as well. Right. They want someone who makes them feel like they're the best thing in the world. And vice versa. Like you want that.

But I think now, with all this stuff that I've heard, like women, I heard a woman, I don't know if I sent it to you or not, but if I haven't, I'll send it to you. This one lady was talking and she goes, It's okay to divorce the nice guy. And I was like, Are you insane? Like, think about what you're saying. So she goes, I don't Yeah, she goes, I don't care if he's nice. If you're not happy, divorce him. And I was like, Well, what what is

You're not gonna get another nice guy.

What more do you need to be happy? Like, if you're being treated nice and things are okay, and like we've we've got a level now that is unreachable for men. And with women having most of the power dynamic on the divorce side, men are giving up on marriage. Like, to a degree that it's

You know, if you live in the c state of California and you're a man, you're fucking crazy to get married. I'm just saying. Like give up on that if you're here. 'Cause you're gonna lose dramatically.

Yeah. Well

I would say most most states now because it's the almost all these states are no fault. Any no fault divorce date, men are gonna get like hammered because there there has to be no fault. Even if the woman cheated.

He's gonna get half, you know, hit his the house is gonna be hers, the kids are gonna be every week every other weekend, you're gonna get hammered. Yeah, they're gonna take half your shit. So or half the shit, right? 'Cause look, both people put into a marriage. But yeah, I I think that now

Everything's going in how.

It it's going to be so difficult for people to get married because men are being taught don't marry anymore because there's nothing in it for you.

And that's kinda true for men these days.

I I know. It and it's that I I see that as really kinda sad.

It is. It is because if you look at at the state of affairs in this world, like people don't know how to communicate and now now men are being alienated from women. L

further creating the gap that's already so prevalent and it's so it already needs to be handled in serious ways and we're not. We're just taking it a step further and causing more disrespect and more disarray of of you know, emotions and and

Loving relationships and feel it's it's sad. It's sad to see what's happening. And I could honestly say I don't blame men.

See, I I want to say the same thing, but I don't want to come off being like the asshole. But it's it's difficult. I I heard this one guy say something that I kind of agree with. Like I don't want to say that it's a hundred percent, but it's definitely something to think about. He said that men have to work four times as hard to get someone that's only a quarter of what your grandma was.

What?

So think about that. You have to because gran you know, your grandma, our grandmothers, was a badass, but they they w grew up in the forties. Right? They were maybe even in the late thirties, late thirties, forties, and then early fifties was when their their best part of their life was. Like their twenties and thirties and forties. Like they were on there.

Was a badass. Yeah.

That men have to work four times as hard to only get up a a quarter of what their grandma was, because grandma cooked and cleaned and took care of the house and like took care of the kids. And and look, we can argue, you know, that there were the divorce laws then weren't the same and a bunch of things. And sure, but they're unhappy women a hundred percent. Because there were abusive men even then. But

That th that you have to work four times as hard to get someone that's not even a quarter of what your grandma is. Man, that that talk about just kinda like, 'cause women don't want to cook and clean anymore. They want someone else to do it for You know, they

I get that too because I always did the cooking and the cleaning. It would have been nice to have had like on a Sunday morning breakfast made for me. But I don't mean all the time, but once in a while would've been nice.

A hundred percent. I I I won't argue that fact. I think that women don't want to do it at all.

If they don't want a relationship they you know, they're doing the right thing 'cause not participating will will keep you single.

Right. Yeah, that's very true. I I also just think that like we have to come it up to the reality of like people, couples, don't have the luxury of having one person do one thing in the in the house. Sure. Are there gender roles? Absolutely. And if you don't believe in that, I think that you're you don't understand DNA and a

thousand years of men and women and more than a thousand two thousand years probably if you want to go back that far like we do certain things like I would never be with a woman who went out and did the yard work I just think that's a gender role that's what men do yeah now

would make you look bad to most people. Ain't all

I but I also wouldn't be like if if my mate came to me and said, Well, I'll go do the yard if you do the cooking and the cleaning. It's like, okay, I think that there is fairness in that if that's what you really want to do. But I just think that it's like you're really messing with gender roles and what it means to do things in the house. I I I believe that everything's these days is pretty much matching. Like

And I've I've heard women go, Yeah, but he doesn't do a very good job. But he's fucking helping. Like, don't bitch that he's that he's trying to clean, but he doesn't do a good job, so you don't want him to do it. Well, yeah. But to me, it's like, then pick one. Because

I've heard that so many times over the years by the way.

if if you keep thinking that way, men are just gonna sandbag every time they do it until you tell them to stop cleaning the house and then they're gonna go and sit down, then you're gonna bitch that they're sitting down.

You know what I mean? It's like you can't have your cake and eat it too. Look, I I think there's a way of saying, Hey, you know, I expect this this way, or I would like you to do it this way. But I you need to do these things early in relationships.

You know, the you can't, you know, let him do something or let her do something for three years and then bitch about it at three years. Like, you know, you've been bugging the every time you you know, you wash a cup, it bothers me. It's like, you should have told me that three years ago. You don't get to do it now. That's how I wash a cup. Like this is just the way it is.

This is what I've been talking about since the very beginning of our podcast. With I've heard people, and it probably doesn't happen as much, but it probably happened in the past. You know, he's a great person, but he drops his socks right next to the to the hamper and he doesn't put it in. If that's good, if that's the end all for you, you really don't want.

Mm-hmm.

You need to be stable.

Well, yeah, and only that, you really don't want to hear what's going on in your man's head because he ignores all that shit, picks up your socks, throws them in there, and keeps walking. He's never going to tell you. He doesn't because he doesn't want the fight. He just helps. Right? And yeah, there's certain like I ha I have a friend of mine, and all she said was, you know, it'd be nice if I didn't have to remind somebody to take the trash out. Okay. That's fair. It and it is. If

If you've made a decision that someone takes the trash out, then yeah, I I think that there is something to that. Like, yeah, you shouldn't have to remind them every single day. Do you have to remind them every blue moon? Absolutely. But do I have to remind you to have sex with me?

Yes. According to what I'm hearing, that's very much gonna right. And that should be a priority.

Yeah, I sh I shouldn't. I shouldn't have to remind you. That should be something that everyone's getting something out of. But you know, that's another thing that I hear in a lot of these videos that women are just weaponizing sex. And and what you're doing there is a very slippery slope.

It's it's abusive. When you withhold sex from your mate, it's abusive. It it doesn't help them grow, it doesn't help your relationship grow. It does nothing of the sort. It just creates a bigger gap that doesn't need to be there. And if you truly do love somebody, you shouldn't be refrain refraining from from things that bring you close or or things that make you happy or things that relieve stress like

That should be what you what you go for, yeah. 'Cause that that's the best stress relief ever.

You strive for. Yeah.

Yeah, and to me, all you're going to do is push your mate to someone else. And and here's this Yeah, and here's the sad part though. Your mate is going to go somewhere to have sex with somebody purely for the sex.

Yep. And and how often have we seen that?

And you know, and I and I and look, men and women have sex for different reasons. I think a lot of them have it for the same, but we are different. Where women have emotional sex and men, it's a physical thing. It's just, you know, getting it out of the system. And we can argue until we're blue in the face, but I think there's a lot in the middle. I don't want to argue those things.

First check.

But a man, a lot of men that I've seen statistically will say, I I cheated on my wife because we weren't having sex, but I love her. Because he loves her, the person she is, but she doesn't want to have sex with them. Where women, I think, when they cheat on their spouse, they do it for an emotional bond. The man is giving her something that she's not getting mentally.

And then that turns physical. Where I think that can happen for a man. I think that men fall in love with their mistresses. It's a fact. Or whatever. Because well, they're getting laid, but then something clicks also emotionally. Like, damn, we, you know, we're really the sex thing's great, but I really like how.

They're getting late. No

She makes me feel and how we are around each other.

And how she talks to me differently than my wife. I hear that a lot.

Right. There's there's a I gotta find this video. I'm gonna look it up while while we're here. But it's a video of of a couple who's breaking up. It's from it must be from a British TV show, but she she says, like, you know, this girl is this, this, and this, you know, why do you want her? And he says the reason. And I'm gonna see if I can find it.

But it's an interesting

thing to hear this guy because it's not what you think he's gonna say. It's not she's hotter than you. It's that it's nothing like that.

why he's leaving. I'm gonna see. I wanna see if I can find it because it's a really good

little video and i i I've seen it a bunch of times and but I don't think I don't know what to write down on the to try to find it. but it it's so you know coming going back to the video I I think that all in all we're really kind of teaching

We're we're teaching the the people that we wanna be in love with the wrong ideas. And it's it's bleeding into our generation as well. Men have given up on dating. They just they don't, they don't want to, they don't want the headache, they feel that it's a fight all the time. And can see

Why? When we're the people are being fed this crazy shit online, which is probably also not even real. You know, a lot of them are doing it for clicks. And who knows if it's just for the shock value, but other people are going to take this seriously.

Well, there's a whole generation that takes it seriously for sure.

Right. It's like, man.

Don't know. I I wish I could come up with a a

a way to to block it, like make it not but I can't even think of how we're going to do it. How? How are we going to make it go backwards?

Fix this, you mean?

Yeah, like how

I think every generation changes. So the generation that's out there doesn't need men. But the next generation that's coming up is believing in more traditional values. I'm hoping that that they switch the the the story. I hope that they are able to to go back to a more traditional way and then say, Look, like it doesn't have to be so fucked up and then hopefully, you know, we we get out of this. It it's like I remember

when me and you were growing up, people were so

racist. And then and then the next generation came and that wasn't tolerated and everybody had to get on board and start speaking correctly and and not acting so acting so racist. And and things got better for a while. And then, you know, the last couple of presidential

terms it went back the opposite where people could spew their hatred and it was it was

I I don't know if I would say welcomed but it's tolerated. And I think we have to we have to quit tolerating this nonsense that people were saying and and call a spade a spade. Like I'm sorry, but men are not worthless. And that's a woman saying that. That's me saying that. Men are not worthless and the stuff that you did. It's okay.

So she's not younger than me. She's not skinnier than me. She's not prettier than me. And why couldn't I I found it. Sorry, I didn't mean to do that though, but Hold on. I'm gonna play it for you because I want you I want to see what you think.

I'm I'm having issues 'cause I turned it down too quickly. So she's not younger than me, she's not skinnier than me, and she's not prettier than me. Then why couldn't it just be me?

She's quieter than. She doesn't yell at me. She doesn't call me an idiot or tell me to shut up all the time.

She listens to me. She's nice to me. She doesn't make me feel like the only thing stopping her from being happy is me. That is the quote of quotes for me. It it's it's horrible, but I can see where.

How sad is that?

And again, this is the I'm gonna be the man of the show, but that's how I can see how men can feel like that. It's like the the end quote is like the only thing that that I can see is that she's doesn't feel like it's me. And it's like, yikes, are are we really there that women look i independence is independence. It's gonna happen. We can all

We're all independent. You know, I I I remember hearing something. This is where I think society has kind of fallen off. You know, women say, I want to be independent and I don't need a man and all this stuff. And I and I heard this one woman go, Well, you know, I pay my bills and and I take care of myself and I you know, I have a car and I do this, and then it clips to a guy and he goes, Welcome to being an adult. Like that's nothing to be proud of.

Yeah. That's the truth.

If a man said all that shit, they'd go, Well, you're supposed to, you're a man. No, I'm a human. You know, like, stop looking at the the small picture and being like, well, I can pay my own rent and I don't do this and this. I don't need a man. It's like, yeah, the you can say the same thing for a dude. He doesn't need a woman either. I, you know, I do my own dishes. I clean my own house. I make my own food. I've done it for 17 years. I don't need a woman.

Do I want one? Sure, it'd be great. But to think like I have to have one to to get my house clean, you're insane. I don't want a housekeeper, I want a mate.

And vice versa. If if you're worried about

And part of that is doing things together and taking on taking on tasks together, not you know, y I'm gonna leave you all this and I'm gonna do that and this. No.

Mm-hmm. agree. Well, that that's kind of what I'm saying though. If you're looking at a man for only being a provider and a protector and not a mate, you're you're you've already lost. And if you think that that's all he's there for is to provide for you, so you can like there was a girl earlier in that video, I didn't play it, but she basically said, like, you know, I can take care of myself and blah, blah, blah, and you know.

I want a man, but I'm still gonna go out and party with my friends whenever I want to. Like, okay, then that's a double-edged sword. So when your man goes, Cool, I'm going out today with the boys, do you have the right to say something to him? I wouldn't. So my thing is be careful with you what you wish for, you might just get it. And

Nobody wants look, we we should all hang out with our friends and it's it's very important in life that we do said things.

But if you're going to be with somebody, and I mean for real, seriously, like and I'm talking about getting married and having babies and starting a family and being a couple, you have to understand that at some point, your family and your mate are more important than your friends.

For sure. And that's that's your priority. That's that's who you're supposed to make your number one. That's your unit, your family.

But I think

But I'm a hundred percent, but I think that that's being kind of look, we've talked about it before. I've heard people going, I've heard men go, Yeah, I can't go hang out today on babysitting. Yes. Yeah, what what what I what I usually say is, you mean you're parenting? You're not babysitting. Babysitting is when your brother calls you with his kids and says

No you're not babysitting, those are your kids.

Hey, can you watch the can you watch the kids? That's babysitting. When they're yours, that's not babysitting. That's being a fucking adult. You had them. They're yours. You're going to take care of them. So part of that on both sides is: look, there's nothing wrong. I sent my wife out to hang out with her friends all the time when we were married. And I had a one and a half or two-year-old at home.

I enjoyed being at home with my kid. I'm kind of a homebody. You know, I wish I would have gone out more with her because things probably would have been better. But all in all, I didn't have a problem with that. but did I want her to go out every weekend? No, I would have lost my shit. So think about what we're doing these days. and me and you, we don't have, you know.

our best years are behind us. And I mean that in the utmost respect for us. But I mean like, you know, we're not out starting families and you know what I mean? Like we're not having babies at 50. So and and so I think our b our good years are ahead of us. Like we have a good life still, but our best years are, you know, twenty-five to thirty-five for being a family person and making a unit and doing something.

I think you can be fifty and get married and have a great twenty-five years. A a great twenty-five years. And I think it's important that you try. If that's you know what I mean. I would never say don't, don't do it. I you know but I also think that you have to chase what you want.

I think that every day should be a good day, that you should really strive for that no matter what situation you're in or what relationship you're in. I I just feel like you should always put your best foot forward. But if you're just if you're just looking for somebody to manipulate you and or manipulate so that you could have things for you or you want to just put people down, like just stay single.

Yeah. I think it just comes back to bite you in the end. Because I I've

You know what? At some point you're gonna fall for somebody. And karma's a bitch. Yeah.

Well and then they're gonna be the one that hurts you. Because they didn't take it seriously from the beginning either because they saw some sign that was like, she's just doing this.

they saw the ugly inside of you definitely listening to those when you sent me that I was aggravated for a few days. I had to talk about it. And and normally I don't you know I don't get caught up in that shit, right? But I was so frustrated and then hearing other men's views about things a from, you know, like my brothers and his friends to like coworkers and and people that I worked on to to like my own friends and the stuff I heard. It was it

Yeah.

just made me more more aggravated. And I was like, I gotta quit. I gotta quit listening to stuff Rob said to me because I've been pissed off now for days and I don't even feel like that. You know?

Right. Yeah. And and look, I I sent it to you because I you know, I've talked about it on here a bunch of times that I've heard these things and it's and I I don't always want to be such a Debbie Downer about it. Because I I don't, you know, I am a sucker. I'm really kind of a hopeless romantic and and I'm trying to keep that faith. Like, hey.

Keep it because what I think our generation is doesn't think that way to the degree that these younger generations are. There are people out there and and you you can find one, but you just gotta quit looking for the broken ones. 'Cause when they're broken and when they feel like they have to they have to be like this, you don't want them anyway. That'll move on quick.

Yeah. And look, I I heard something a while back about like, you know, look, we're I don't wanna say we're not all broken, but look, we've all gone through things. And I heard this girl talking about it on a podcast, which, you know, how the the big thing now is, you know

If after you get out of this, heal and and work on yourself and do all this stuff, and in a couple of years try it again. And the statistics show otherwise. Statistics show the best thing you can do is get back in another relationship. Because the best way to work through things that have happened to you is to s to see why it happened. Now

I I think that there's something to that. Like, yeah, should you probably, you know, be a little bit past it? Sure. I think there's something to that. But

you don't if you if you stay too long on the sideline, you might miss the one good thing.

Maybe.

think that there's only one person in this world for every person. There's so many people. You you just gotta find someone that you could that you could be around and enjoy being around and let the rest of the shit go. Just let it go. Like I I don't want to think like the way what I heard today. I refuse to. But do I think that I'm gonna be doomed to be alone forever? Absolutely not. Like there's gotta there are people in this world that don't buy into that shit.

A hundred percent.

Yeah. I mean I

That's good point. I I I also think that there's there's a lot to be said to say like

you know, live your life. And and don't be afraid that that you're gonna get hurt every single time. Cause it it's a horrible way to live.

You know, there's

And why bother if you feel like that anyway?

Right. A and that's just the way things go. Like and and hopefully, you know, you'll you'll find somebody in they're not like these cre

Hopefully you start to feel better about yourself and you pick better.

Yeah. I mean, look, I think that there is something to the bad picker to a degree. but I think that it's something that you have to step back for a second and go, you know, there look we we all have friends who have picked a lot of bad ones. It's like

You know, and and you have to really s step back into yourself and go, maybe it was me a little bit.

I don't think that you should ever look at life and and not feel like you had some part to play in it. Like th n it doesn't matter what it is in life, you have a part to play and it's up to you of as to how you're gonna play it and who you're gonna play it with.

Yeah, I agree.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah. And look, it just keep on trucking, but i if you're if you're being red pilled, black pilled, white pilled, you know, whatever it is with these on both sides. If you're listening to too much of men tell you that women are horrible, y it's gonna fuck you up. And if you're listening to these women tell you that men are ATM machines, you it y it's gonna mess you up. It's just not reality. The reality is is that you both have to be on the same page looking for the same thing, trying to be the same kind of happy.

Yep, and that's it.

That's it. So

And you will find that that and it's not again, watching social media and listening to this bullshit over and over and over again, it perpetuates the bullshit is all it does. Like to me, I don't listen to this stuff, so I don't feel that way towards men. Never have. And and you know, it quit listening to that shit. Like quit putting energy into shit. And all that stuff with those girls that you you listened to or that you you made me listen to.

Yeah. And that's awesome. You're you're

Yeah.

Yeah. Just kind of step back and and realize that look. I I think that that's a very, very small percentage of people, so don't listen to the one percent.

And if you want to be miserable, you're doing the right thing by listening to them because you will start to believe the bullshit. Yep, absolutely.

Yeah, you're you're just not yeah, you're hurting yourself. So all right. Well, you know, listen to us pretty much everywhere. What you know, we've been doing really cool. Thanks for everyone that listen, lots of people, lots of people all over the world. But listen to this. It's crazy, crazy. And and like I said, I've said on here before, like I think some of them are VPNs, but I mean we've had like China.

Well, like we've had all over the place. It's kind of an interesting an interesting thing. You can listen to us pretty much anywhere. Like we're on Apple, Spotify. You can listen to us off of our webpage, off our Facebook page. There's a link. You can find us anywhere. Keep on sharing. you know, thanks for listening. it's an opinion show. Don't get it twisted. Keep coming back every Wednesday. That's Tina. I'm Rob. We'll see you in week. Bye.

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