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The 4 Conversations That Need to Happen In Your Living Room To Move Forward After Another School Shooting
Episode 441st June 2022 • The 6570 Family Project • Nellie Harden
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What can we do? It seems so complicated and tangled and the finger-pointing is going around and around, so the problem is revolving instead of resolving.

 

There are 4 conversations that need to be had and the best place to start is in your living room. In this episode, I dive into each conversation and what that means.

 

This is NOT a political debate. This is NOT a policy debate. This is NOT about blame or shame. 

 

This is about all of us agreeing that this is not ok and finding solutions.

 

*WARNING- This podcast does discuss school shootings.

About the Host:

Nellie Harden is a wife of 20+ years, mom to 4 teen/tween daughters, dreamer, adventurer, servant, multipreneur, forever student, and a devoted teacher, but her ride-or-die passion is her work as a Family Life Coach & Mentor. 

Coming from a career background in marine mammal sciences, behavioral work, and a host of big life experiences, both great and not some not so great, she decided that designing a life of purpose and freedom was how she and her husband, along with their 4 daughters, wanted to live. 

Her work and passions exist in the realms of family and parent mentorship because she believes that a family filled with creativity, fun, laughter, challenge, adventure, problem-solving, hugs, good food, and learning can not only change a person’s life but is the best chance at positively changing the world. 

She helps families build Self-Led Discipline™ & Leadership Into their homes, sets their children up for a wildly successful life on their terms, and elevates the family experience with big joy, palpable peace, and everyday growth!

With a lifelong passion and curiosity in thought, choice, behavior, and growth she has found incredible joy in helping families shift perspective, find answers, and a path forward.

 

(Nellie has been coaching families for over 10 years and has degrees in Biology, Animal Behavior and Psychology. ) 

 

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Hello and welcome to the 6570 family project

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podcast. If you are a parent of a tween teen or somewhere on the

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way, this is exactly the place for you. This is the playground

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for parents who want to raise their kids with intention,

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strength and joy. Come and hear all the discussions, get all the

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tactics and have lots of laughs along the way. We will dive into

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the real challenges and raising kids today how to show up as

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parents and teach your kids how to show up as members of the

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family and individuals of the world. My name is Nellie Hardin,

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big city girl turns small towns sipping iced tea on the front

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porch mama, who loves igniting transformation in the hearts and

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minds of families by helping them build selfless discipline

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and leadership that elevates the family experience. And sets the

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kids up with a rock solid foundation, they can launch

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their life on all before they ever leave home. This is the

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6570 family project. Let's go Hi, everyone. Welcome to the

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6570 family project podcast. In this podcast, we are normally

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putting aside the power struggles and and finding paths

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forward especially for our young women today in the second half

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of childhood, as parents so that we can help them walk toward

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that confidence, respect and wisdom mental wellness that they

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need in order to prepare them for the world. But today in the

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wake of everything that's been happening here in the US, and

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what has shaken the US and around the world. Today, I want

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to talk all about what we can do with our kids. How can we help

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have another conversation with our kids? How can we face them

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again, and say this has happened again, but still help them know

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that they are safe, right? In a world that is obviously not and

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that unexpected can come. And this is a really tough time I'm

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going to take my time in doing this podcast today. I myself

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have had a huge emotional week, which then I have guilt over

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saying you have you know, no right to have emotions when you

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know people are really, really hurt out there. I might cry.

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I've been crying all week. But that's okay, we this is a hard

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time it's a hard subject. And I think the more real that we can

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be with each other, the more real we can be with our families

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and our kids about it, the better we can become right? So

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we if you can't make sense out of this, there is no sense in a

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senseless act like this right? What we have to focus on, when

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anything senseless happens in our lives, whether you are a

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direct hit or you know, you are just auxilary hit on the side,

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right? You have to focus on what you can do to positively affect

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you and those around you in the situation. And in order to move

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forward do the next right thing, right? To steal a line out of

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frozen two right there on a has that song. And that song is

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really powerful. Actually, I refer to it a lot. Just do the

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next right thing takes take the next step and do the next right

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thing through the heart. Right. Anyway, so there are so many

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victims here, right, the more stories that have been coming

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out and unfolding, the more lives that we see have been

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changed. Some lives are forever gone. And that is tragic. Some

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are shattered, some have incredibly steep mountains that

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have now been put in the way of their life, that they are going

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to have to do the hard hard work of getting past. Some are

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changed with guilt that is so powerful than I worry about

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them. Some are so changed with anger that it will take a long

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road of healing, some with frustrations, desperation,

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sadness, disbelief, you name it. We've all felt the reverberating

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effects of what happened here, just like we have all the times

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before. So the first school, I mean, there's been mass

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shootings in so many different places, right, but the first

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school mass shooting that I could really find on record was

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in 1998. And then of course, Columbine, was a year later and

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the first one

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In Thurston high school, I believe it something like that.

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But the point is, it was a child, right? In most of these

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cases, this is a child, or someone that is just coming out

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of childhood. And they still are mentally a child I talk a lot

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about just because they turn 18 does not mean they're an adult,

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right? Just because they turn 18 and have the adult title does

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not make them an adult person. Right. And so these are children

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that are obviously missing so much that are turning around,

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because, and hurting other children. And it's not always

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the case, but most of the time, it is kids hurting kids, right,

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that first one was a 15 year old, that killed his parents and

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then went to school and killed some students at school, right.

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Columbine happened, you guys, there's been 350. You know, now

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that I'm saying this out loud, I too want to say this is what

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we're going to be talking about today. So if you do have, and I

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apologize for not saying it sooner, but if you do have kids

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in the car, and this is a conversation you want to have

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just with them later on, feel free to pause this and come back

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to it when it's just your yours or listen to it as a family that

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is up to you and how you communicate with your family.

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But we are going to be talking about these hard subjects today.

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So there's been 300 over 350 school shootings since 1998.

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That is more than one a month. This is 2022. On average we have

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had when you space it out more than one a month of school

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shootings. So when these things keep coming up over and over and

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over. How do we still help our kids know that it's okay. And

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that we're going to go on? And that tomorrow isn't going to be

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a tragedy for us? We pray? Right.

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So again, we have to talk about the things that we can do

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something about. So we're going to go through four conversations

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today. And these four conversations are conversations

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that need to be happening. And they cannot can not be finger

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pointed and go around in a circle. I mean, you you think I

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have four kids, right? So I think of my four kids sitting

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down in a circle, or I guess it would be more of a square if

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they're sitting down, right. But anyway, and one is just finger

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pointing at the other and finger pointing at the other end. It

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just goes around what happens you guys. It just revolves. It

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keeps going around whatever's happening keeps happening. And

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everyone is just blaming everyone else. No one is

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standing in their accountability and saying, Okay, this is what

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we can do. This is what I can do in my area, this what you could

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do in your area, right, this is what I could do in my area, all

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of that, but standing still in your accountability. I think I

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hope I pray that everyone in this nation, everyone in this

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world can agree that this what happened last week in Uvalde,

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Texas, where an 18 year old, walks into a school and has a

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gun and kills 19 Kids and two teachers, and then the

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subsequent passing of one of those teachers, husbands, right.

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I hope and pray and I think that no one in the world thinks that

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is okay. No one in the world would agree and shrug their

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shoulders and say, yep, that's life. Right? I think we can all

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get on the same page about that. I think we can all get on the

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same page that what happened is not okay. And there were things

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that led up to that, which means in these four conversations

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we're going to talk about today, everyone can take accountability

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in them. Okay. Think about like a Venn diagram style, right?

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With these four circles, and there's going to be this middle

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area where they all overlap. And that's where we need to be but

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in order to get there, everyone needs to stand in

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accountability. Okay. Now, this is not going to be a pill

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political, I am not playing sides of the aisle so to speak,

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or what have you. That is not who I am. And everyone has a

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right to their own opinions, but these four conversations have to

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be being had and accountability has to be in them. Okay, guys.

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So let's start with the first one, which is mental health.

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Okay. I've heard this week. This one being finger pointed to a

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lot. Well, he was disturbed. Well, he had that right. Okay.

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So he had mental health issues. And obviously, obviously, right.

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So what When we do hear, and I'm talking about what can you do in

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your living room? What can you do in your dining room right

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now? That's what today is about? How are we going to move forward

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with our kids, even though this is happening? So it's having

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conversations. Okay, it sounds so, so simple, but it's

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something that is not done nearly enough. Having

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conversations, the worst thing that can happen is that we as a

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nation, and as a world, especially as a nation, because

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let's face it, there isn't other nations that really go through

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this, like the United States does, which begs its own

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question. But the worst thing we can do as a nation is become

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numb to this, we can just accept it as a norm. I've talked

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before, and I will talk again, and I will say it until my

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grave, I am unsubscribing. to normal, there is too many norms

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today are normals that are just being accepted, that are hurting

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us that are hurting the people, the kids, the families, that

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these norms are, right. So, do not become numb to this. Every

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time it happens, allow the pain to come in. Because if you

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don't, that wall is not going to serve you and it is not going to

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serve the future kids in the future schools in the future.

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assailants that go out, it's not. So what happens matters.

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And we need to acknowledge the sad and the scary. Even if it's

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hard, it's going to be hard, there's no doubt about that, it

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is going to be hard.

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So have the conversations. You don't need to get into gruesome

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details necessarily, you don't have to, you know, tell the

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details of someone's account. But ask them what they're

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hearing, ask them what they're feeling. Share with them, what

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you're going through, as a parent about your concerns,

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right? Be vulnerable in these conversations, this is a

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vulnerable time, with very vulnerable things happening all

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these degrees of victimhood that we had or that I talked about

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earlier. So I said earlier, and I always say this, if you listen

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to the beginning of this podcast, or if this is the first

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time that you've ever heard it, I always say and I truly, truly,

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truly believe that the best way to change the world is one

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living room at a time. I was recently recently listening to

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Nicky Gumbel, who is the head of alpha. It is a Christian program

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that I served in for many, many, many years. And I just happened

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to be listening to him last week I started on Monday before any

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of this happened. And then I was listening as the week unfolded.

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And he echoed what I teach my parents and my families I work

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with and how to cultivate that all people, all people are

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looking for three things, love, belonging, and purpose. Almost

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everything that a person has can fit into those things, love,

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belonging and purpose never, never have I known as senseless

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tragedy like this or any any senseless tragedy to have been

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committed by a person who actually holds all three of

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these cards, I can truly say that I have love I can truly say

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that I have belonging somewhere I can truly say that I have

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purpose. And if I am wrong, let me know I do want to know I am a

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student of biology of a student of psychology, I want to know

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these things. But to the best of my knowledge, no one that has

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ever been the the person that has done these things, has those

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three things truly innately in them in their foundation of who

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they are. So how can we as a parent, how can we help our

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children have all of three themes, these three things and

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foster all three of them? Right? So that's a big question looking

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at your family looking at your kids love, belonging, purpose,

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love first, helping them know that they are belong or that

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they belong somewhere. And then helping them develop a purpose

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that is unique to them in their own special awesome way with

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their gifts and talents. So love belonging and purpose.

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So we need to really be proactive. I mean, this is where

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it comes down to we've proactivity toward mental

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wellness instead of hoping against and having reactive

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behaviors toward mental illness right. It is just like eating

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your fruits and veggies which also play a role by the way in A

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lot of our mental health, but it's like eating our fruits and

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veggies so that we can be physically healthy, and also

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help with our mental illness. But we have to build mental

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wellness, not just repair mental illness. Okay, I want to say

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that again, because it's something that it is, that is a

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norm, I would subscribe to. It's not a norm today, though it is

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not, I hope and I pray it becomes one. But it is not one

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yet. We need to build mental wellness into our family

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structure into our kids, instead of just repairing mental

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illness. Okay. And mental illness does not need to be a

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norm. It happens a lot. It is out there a lot. It does not

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need to be an accepted norm if you if you haven't been accepted

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norm, right then you're just saying, Yep, that status quo. I

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am I hear this, and I'm coming at this from experience. You

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guys. I've heard kids say to their parents, you know what?

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I'm normal. I'm depressed. Leave me alone. Right? No, that's the

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last thing No, yes, you are a normal kid. But depression does

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not need to be your normal. Let's help you through that. We

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want the normal to look like Hey, Mom, Dad, I am feeling

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depressed. I need some help. Can you help me? Right? If we can

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get to that norm, that would be a better norm, I would subscribe

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to that norm. But not I am depressed. I am not my identity

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is not based in depression. But I am feeling depressed. Right?

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There are two really different things you guys. So helping our

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kids build mental wellness, which is exactly what we do here

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with the people I work with. And so many amazing people out there

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that I know that are building mental wellness, instead of just

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reacting to mental illness. And then pray. So I I am a

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Christian. And I personally think that prayer is one of the

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most powerful things you can do for someone but think about it

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even beyond that. Think about the side effects of prayer,

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write it prayer as a family, you're acknowledging what

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happened, we're not becoming numb to it, we're not sweeping

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it under the rug, we are acknowledging what happened, we

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are talking through our thoughts, we are asking for

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help, we are accepting the things that we cannot change.

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And we are asking for strength to do the things that we can,

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the scary things. And that scary thing could be going and talking

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to someone in legislation, right. And that can make some

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policy change, or it is going and talking to a parent that has

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been shattered by what is happening. Or maybe it is just

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getting out of bed, whatever that next step is for you asking

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for the strength to do that next right thing for you. So that's a

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conversation about mental wellness. And this is where I

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stick my my life and my work is around helping parents develop

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that mental wellness within their daughters before they

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leave home so that they are leaving home with that

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confidence from the inside out right radiating from them, and

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having the respect for themselves and others. Others

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write others to and wisdom of themselves and others how to

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connect and relate to and take care of others and themselves

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and all of the other facets of wisdom and respect. But the next

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conversation you guys is over gun control and policy.

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So I told you I'm not getting political on here and I am not.

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But again, like I said, I hope that everyone can see that this

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is not okay. What is happening is not okay, no matter where you

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are, the NRA convention is happening right now. And I know

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so many people that were going decided not to write it doesn't

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mean that they are anti gun now, right? It just means that they

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now are saying you know what, it's not the right time, because

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what happened is not okay. So, gun control and policy. This is

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where people need to stand up and have accountability here. So

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what can that look like? Well, every person has their own

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opinion about gun control. And I'm not even going to get into

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mine. But I think and hope we are all on the same page when I

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say that If you are a person that has guns, protect them,

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lock them up and be responsible for goodness sakes be

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responsible. Now, this case that happened most recently, was not

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a case of somebody taking someone's but there has been a

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lot of others that are that were right, they took, they took it

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from a parent, they took it from a friend, they took it from an

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uncle, all of these different pieces. So just because it

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wasn't this case, doesn't mean it's not a problem. So if you

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have guns, if you're a person that has guns, then protect

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them, lock them up with the ammo somewhere else be responsible.

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If you are a person that sells guns, do your due diligence as

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best as you can. Because I don't want the blood of any more

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victims on to be felt on your hands either. I can't imagine

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that Wait, that must be on some of these people. If you want to

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ask your representatives to take action, if you want to go to a

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rally, if you want to go somewhere and calmly, logically

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sensibly talk to somebody about this, then do that. Go make

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legislation happen if that is what you are called to do. You

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can help in this arena, if that is what you are called to do,

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you can help in this arena. I've seen kids recently learn like

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within the last week you guys before this, but within the last

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seven days, learning how to shoot guns properly, not because

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they want to do this or even because it's sport, but because

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we live in a world where this is unfortunately a possibility. And

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so they are equipping their children and themselves with the

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knowledge and know how of how to use a gun. i It breaks my heart,

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it breaks my heart because these families didn't want to ever be

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in this situation. But that's something that they felt that

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they needed to do. You guys, I you know, I grew up in a hunting

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family. And I get that and that goes down into one of our other

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conversations we'll have in a couple minutes. But I get guns,

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all right, I get them but not in this way. And we have to take

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accountability and all of our ways. So we're taking

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accountability, and mental wellness, right and mental

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wellness, we need to take accountability and gun control

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and policy to now our next conversation is bleeds into a

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little bit with gun control, which is cultural acceptance. So

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like I said, I grew up in a hunting family, I get it, I have

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pictures of me in literally a diaper holding a gun. And it was

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probably the last time I held the gun. But that was when I was

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just because in my my family, they they hunt. And that's okay,

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right? If you have a gun to protect your family, I get it, I

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get it. If your job description has you having one and using

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one, I get it, right? You want them if you want them because

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they're cool, right? I get it. But there are consequences and

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precautions that need to be had. And I've talked to a lot of

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adults that have them because they think that they're super

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cool and super fun. And it's more of a collector's item that

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they and a hobby, a more of a hobbyist, right. And I encourage

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you if that is you maybe look at a job, right a line of work that

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you would have, and you would be able to have that interest come

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into play. Right? That might be something for you.

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Here's where we really get into some spicy water here is when

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you think they are American, and I'm using quotes here, air

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quotes. You think guns are an American way of life? Well, they

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are. And here's the outcome of some of that rhetoric and some

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of that thinking as well. Right. So I beg you the question, what

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does American mean to you? What does that mean to you? I saw not

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long ago within the last year I saw this picture of this

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American family. All very, you know, rich, Caucasian family.

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Well to do sitting in this beautiful white, big house on

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their couch all of these beautiful things around them.

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And it was a I believe it was a couple of parents and then it

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was two daughters and a son that looked like they were all in

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middle in high school. And all of them were holding guns. For

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me that was one of the most atrocious um sights that I could

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ever see. Because and let me give you my because before you

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start if you're listening to this and rolling your eyes at

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me, because I had just seen recently right before this maybe

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a couple of weeks before this, an article about this family

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over in the Middle East, that they had guns, and they were

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being trashed because of it. They are violent, they are

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wicked. Look, all they want to do is bloodshed, all of this

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stuff. And it was a family in the Middle East that had guns.

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And now there was this all American family in America that

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had guns, and it was being viewed as picturesque. You guys,

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this is this is a cultural acceptance issue that needs to

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be addressed. It needs to be addressed. What are we? What are

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we doing? What is our message? Why do we have them? What does

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it mean to be American to you? What does it mean to have that

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What feeling do you get? If that is you? And you have that with

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you? That you need that kind of power? Right? It's not

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protection at that point, it's power. And these automatic

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rifles, they are not protection, they are power. Right? Why do we

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have to have that kind of power? Like I said earlier, hunting,

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get it protecting your family, you have something in the house,

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get it? Your job has it, I get it, even I can kind of kind of

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understand if you're a collector and a hobbyist, I get it and

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you're collecting, you know, these old and nice guns,

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whatever. Right. But we have an issue when it comes to power.

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Why do we need the power? Right? Think about it. If one of one of

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the things that we talk about all the time in here is power

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struggles, it's one of the key things we talk about. And it is

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dropped the rope pull up a chair, if if you don't, if you

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drop your power, right, people can struggle, and one person

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can't play tug of war. If everyone dropped the power, then

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we would be able to pull up a chair and actually have

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conversations, right? These are hard conversations, you guys,

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these are hard conversations, but ones that have to be had.

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Now, this is Memorial Day weekend. And I don't know when

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you're listening to this, it might be recent, it might be in

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a year or two from now or more. But right now, this is 2022. And

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it's Memorial Day weekend coming up. And we are here to celebrate

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the lives of those that fell to protect this country. For a long

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time, I actually ran a celebration in our town for

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Memorial Day, and I would meet these these veterans that had

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fallen friends, right. And they were there. And they fought for

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our freedoms, right? freedom isn't free. I totally understand

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where they're coming from and where that comes from. But do

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you think for one minute, that those people, those men and

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women that have fallen for the freedom of the United States of

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America would be okay, with these rifles walking into

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elementary schools? No, right? We need to change the cultural

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norms here. It's another normal, I am not willing to subscribe

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to.

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Okay, so we've been through mental wellness, we've been

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through mental health. We've been through gun control and

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policy, we've been through cultural acceptance. And our

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fourth one that we need to talk about is kind of an umbrella.

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Right? It is school safety, security presence policy person,

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or I'm sorry, police procedure, and even social media, right? We

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hear over and over again, the red flags that are going off and

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people that are seeing some hard behavior, but we're told it's

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just them, accept them for who they are. Right. And so you're

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like, Well, I guess it's not a red flag. I mean, we hear about

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these kids that are in class and they're sitting in the corner

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and they're rocking themselves, or they have a violent outburst

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and they're like, it's okay, that's just who they are. We

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need to accept them for who they are. No, no, we do not because

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that person needs help. And they need help before they hurt other

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people that are going to need help. If that ever is the case.

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It is not a normal. I am willing to subscribe to you guys. Again,

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that goes back to the mental wellness that we talked about.

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We want to be proactive, not reactive. Right? We don't want

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people saying like the excuse I have heard from kids with their

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parents that say A mom, I am depressed, I am normal, leave me

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alone. And they shut the door. And the parent just sits there.

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Because they're like, Well, I guess that's who my kid is. No,

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you can help, right? And there's places you can reach out to.

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There's so many hotlines, there's therapists, there's

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coaches, there's mentors, and there's an army of people out

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there trying to help, right? Because we don't want it to get

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to this point ever again. And I hope if you're listening to this

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in a year, or two, or five, or 10, from now that this was the

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last time that this happened. I fear it's not. But I really hope

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it is. I really hope it is. So let's talk about this a little

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bit. Because looking back that retrospective look on social

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media, for example, in this case, and I we've seen it happen

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again and again is, well, they did post this, they did say this

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on this platform or what have you. We need hands down better

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regulation there. If someone is posting a post of guns and

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having some obscure tagline to it. We need to be able to flag

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that somehow. Because that is a cry for Somebody stop me.

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Somebody stopped me, please. I'm going down this road. I am

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covering it up with I'm so cool. I'm covering it up with

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ambiguity I'm covering it up with Look at me, look at me,

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look at me. But no one's looking at me. Right? Remember, they

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want to be loved. Everyone wants to be loved wants to belong, and

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once purpose. And they're saying, Look at me, look at me

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Look at me, and no one's looking at me. So I'm going to make them

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look at me. So social media, I think, can have a big advantage

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here. If we just get the logistics in there. And I am not

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a tech person. I am not an IT person. But there has to be some

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things in there that can be put in place. I mean, if we are

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doing things like connecting the entire world through these

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platforms, there is certainly some measures that can be taken

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in there to flag some things that are happening.

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Now, some, some people have taken their kids out of school

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and decided to homeschool in the wake of all of these shootings

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from years past and even now. The conversation is ignited and

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reignited over and over again and I don't blame you. Right. If

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this is a possibility or desire for your family in the least

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bit, I encourage you to try it. As always, if it is in you, if

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it's a question for you, should we try this, then try it and see

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what happens. And the worst that can happen is you have some

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quality time at home. And then you send them back to school.

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Right? So for if you're thinking that right now, I just want to

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say do I think you should or shouldn't, that's not my place.

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I do not should on people. So if but if it is something that

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you're interested in, go ahead, try it and see. I did it for

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seven years. And it was one of the most wonderful experiences

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that I've ever had. And I came into it as a person that had

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never even thought about homeschooling before, had no

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experience with it before whatsoever. I was terrible. To

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be quite honest. In my first couple of years, I had a lot of

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things to figure out and work on both academically and with my

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kids and with myself but man did we make it work because we

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dedicated ourselves to making it work and it was incredible. So

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if that's you and you're listening to this, then try it

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and see or reach out I'd love to be able to help you through

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that. Get involved and know that safety precautions or know the

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safety precautions at your kids school. If your kid goes to any

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school outside of your home, know the safety precautions

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right know what is happening in there. And yes, you guys it is

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such a pain to go in, check in sign your name go through

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scanners, have your bag checked and do whatever needs to be done

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at the school just to go and like drop off a book or drop off

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the lunch or the project they forgot at home or what have you.

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But you know why it's there. Be patient and understand that it

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is in place for your child. Okay. Understand that no one

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wants this to happen and people are doing what they can and need

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your support much more than they need your scrutiny. There's some

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people and there was some to the best of my knowledge and from

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what I've seen there's been some major you know, Miss mistakes

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and misunderstandings that have happened not just this time, but

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in so many other times. And when you're talking about these, you

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know, sometimes it's a small town, sometimes it's a big city,

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sometimes it's rural, sometimes it's in like urban areas, right?

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All these different things. No one, there is no normal when it

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comes to who's going to be hit by this, right? We know that.

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But these people need our support, and not our scrutiny as

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much, right? Especially right in the aftermath, when we take off,

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especially when you know, this happened in Texas, I'm in North

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Carolina, if I start yelling, and screaming over here, I am

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not dropping the rope and pulling up a chair, I am pulling

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on that rope tighter and tighter and tighter, and it's going to

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hurt somebody, it's going to trip somebody, it's going to

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make it worse, right? So we need to be able to be calm. So we can

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use the logic centers of our brain, we can be accountable and

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all of these four areas that we're talking about today. And

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we can actually make progress and go forward. Everybody

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yelling at each other, everybody pointing fingers at each other

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is not going to do anything, we need to be calm, we need to be

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accountable. And we need to move forward and do the next next

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right thing in each of these areas. Not just one of them, or

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two or three, but each of them. If you are a person listening to

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this, and that works in a sector of the school security, and

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thank you, for you, to you if you do, and I just want to know

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that we appreciate your work. And we love that you try and

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help keep our kids safe, right? All of the schools out there,

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every teacher is rocked I have so many teacher friends that

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work in you know, any kind of school. Not just home schools,

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but I'm talking public, private charter, etc. And every time

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this happens, it is such a toll on them. The principals, the

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superintendents, the schools, the teachers aides, the

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students, obviously, the cooks in the cafeterias, right? All of

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these, it's so hard, and they are rocked every time. So I just

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want to reach out and give each and every one of you a hug right

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now, because I know that this is hard.

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So all four of these conversations, mental health, we

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have gun control and policy, right, the legislative, we have

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school safety, security, police procedure and social media,

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right. And then we have cultural acceptance, all four of these

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conversations. And their results need to have that overlap Venn

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diagram style to keep our children, families, schools,

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churches, grocery stores, right, this was only 10 days after

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another one at the grocery store that gunned down all of those

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people, right, those amazing people, and our grocery stores,

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our movie theaters, our restaurants and our world

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protected. teaching our kids that finger pointing at whose

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fault it is instead of being accountable and taking action

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never solves anything, either. So if you are a person that has

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the guns in your house, and you're like, Nope, it definitely

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wasn't this it was that right? No, it was everything. Take

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accountability. I'm not saying you have to get the guns out of

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your house, if that is, who you are and what you do. Again, I am

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not trying to tell you what you should and shouldn't do here as

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far as what you have. But you do need to take accountability. I

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know that we have guns in this house, and this is why we keep

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them locked up. This is why we are so safe with them. Or this

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is why we are going to be and we are making some changes. And

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also, how are you feeling about this? And also, let's go see

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what's going on at your school and how the safety is there. And

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also what social media platforms are you on right now? Right? All

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of these places need accountability, you guys, all of

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them. It's not just for the people in Uvalde, or other

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people that are scarred and marred. And these places that

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are scarred and marred, that is not where the accountability

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lies. This is a US problem and can only be solved with us

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action and us answers to all of these issues. And though the US

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is far beyond any other country in this respect, other countries

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do have some of these things as well sometimes not nearly to the

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degree that we do, but I don't want to say by any means that

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we're the only ones there's been some tragedies all over A world

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that involves gun violence like this, that involve mental health

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like this that involve cultural norms like this that involve the

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social media, the gun control, the policy, the safety, the

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security presence, right? And includes it all. So if you're

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listening to this from another country to this is not just a US

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problem. It's just mostly a US problem right now, right? But

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these changes can be a world problem, I mean, a world

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solution, the solutions can be a world solution. So can we all

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agree that this is not okay? If we can agree on that, if we can

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just agree on that. Then we can come together and move forward,

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drop the rope, pull up a chair, everyone takes accountability

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for all of these areas. And we find the next right steps for

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each one of these. No one No one of these is a solution. It has

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to be multifaceted, and we are all responsible. And we are all

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victims in some way, some tragically more than others. And

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focusing on what we can do in all four of these areas.

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Starting with in our own living rooms, you guys with our own

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kids, is where the biggest changes can begin for our

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future. Okay, you guys, I know this was hard. I know this was a

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lot. I just hope and pray that you are doing well today. And

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that you are hugging your kids today. And I hope and pray for

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all those that can't both recently. And all of those that

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have lost them and all of these senseless acts, in schools out

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of schools, on the streets, wherever, right, we can do

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something about this, you guys, but it takes all of us taking

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accountability in all of these areas. So keep in touch you

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guys. Try to laugh, right hug. And remember to keep showing up

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with intention and the 6570 the 6570 days of our parenthood

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childhood journey, because they need love, they need belonging.

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They need purpose. And they need to know that we're here for

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them. Okay, guys, I'll talk to you soon.

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Thank you so much for listening today. And I hope you were able

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