What if your next tax bill could become your next investment? In this episode, Attorney and OZ expert Ashley Tison explains how Qualified Opportunity Zones turn capital gains into long-term, tax-free wealth. Learn the key deadlines and strategies that set smart investors apart. Tune in to see how this little-known tax tool could reshape your wealth strategy.

Key takeaways to listen for

• [05:31]What a Qualified Opportunity Zone really is and why Congress created it 
• [05:31]The three major OZ benefits every investor should know
• [08:16]How Qualified Opportunity Zones solve failed 1031 exchanges 
• [24:42]The critical 180-day rule and how to avoid costly mistakes
• [28:25]Why the smartest investors are ditching IRR for long-term plays

Resources mentioned in this episode

• [37:00] Novogradac 2025 Opportunity Zones Summit 

[37:00] Join Ashley Tison at the Novogradac Opportunity Zones Conference on December 4 in Las Vegas, where he’ll speak on audit strategies and the OZ 1.0 to 2.0 transition. Listeners of Truly Passive Income can get 10% off with code OZPROS10% at checkout. Visit ozpros.com/podcast to learn more and claim your free month in the OZ Pros Mastermind.

About Ashley Tison

Ashley Tison, Esq. is the founder of OZPros, the leading Opportunity Zone consultancy. A leading consultant and attorney on Opportunity Zones, tax advantaged structures and investing strategies, Ashley has advised over 500 commercial property investors, family offices, investment advisors and high net worth individuals on how to how to best maximize their tax savings in real estate investments, how to maximize the positive community impact of their projects, selecting an optimal investment strategy, and properly navigating the applicable regulations. Ashley is an engaging and enthusiastic speaker and / or guest covering topics such as opportunity zones, tax advantaged alternative investments, real estate, and tax planning for leading national conferences and educational seminars.

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Ashley Tison: 00:00:00

Compared to other governmental programs, this thing is pie. It is. You don't have to go ask anybody for permission. You don't have to apply for a limited amount of funds.

You just have to do it correctly, keep really good audit trail records, and then you're good to go and you can take the benefit.

Neil Henderson: 00:00:21

Welcome to Truly Passive Income. I'm Neil Henderson.

Clint Harris: 00:00:24

And I'm Clint Harris. And today's guest is Ashley Tison.

He's an attorney, professional speaker, founder of OZ Pros and a full service opportunity opportunity zone advisory firm. So I bet you know what we're going to talk about today. Ashley's worked in real estate, mergers and acquisitions, business growth and management.

He brings his breadth of experience in all of these areas to help educate and guide investors to navigate opportunity zones and to avoid capital gains tax. Please help me in welcoming Ashley Tison. How are you today, sir?

Ashley Tison: 00:00:52

Fantastic. Honor and a privilege to be here, guys.

Clint Harris: 00:00:55

We appreciate having you. Yeah. This is an area that Neil and I are both very curious about and we're excited to have this opportunity to connect with you.

I wish we'd done this interview about three years ago, but better late than never, I think is what they say. So anyway, Ashley, great to have you here.

Tell us a little bit about yourself, about your background and then how you got into this crazy world of qualified opportunity zones.

Ashley Tison: 00:01:19

Yeah, so I like to call myself a reformed attorney. I started out with a big firm. You did the litigation thing. I have had commercial real estate kind of in my blood since I was born.

So went down the commercial real estate route. I left law or left kind of the big firm to go in house with a tenant and commons syndicator.

And we syndicated: 1031

hat and sold that practice in: 2017

And private equity got married. It matches up perfectly with my future.

And so it birthed this consultancy doing opportunities on things as part of our kind of global tax mitigation and purpose practice that we do for high net worth families.

And so OZ Pros was built to help folks that are inside of the opportunity zone industry to have a sharper shovel and to make sure that they're getting their deals done most efficiently and with great sophistication, but at something that's affordable. So that, that way, once again, Main Street America can use what I think is the greatest tax incentive ever legislatively created.

Neil Henderson: 00:03:01

and has maybe never heard of: 10:30

Ashley Tison: 00:03:18

Yeah, so they were created by the Tax Cut and Jobs act and it was specifically to encourage investment into historically underinvested. So Congress allowed the governors to designate up to 25% of their low income census tracts as opportunity zones.

ere doing it based off of the: 2010

lly underinvested in, back in: 2010

it's, you know, it's up till: 2031

You get to reduce your taxes by 10% when you've held for five years and then when you exit after a 10 year hold, you get a step up in basis to fair market value which eliminates capital gains. And it also for your really savvy listeners out there, eliminates depreciation recapture.

So it becomes a really powerful tool for folks that are doing real estate deals who also have a potential high growth business, or for folks that are looking at the bonus depreciation as a tax mitigation strategy, but are concerned about kind of that back bite of bonus or depreciation recapture on the back end. This becomes a powerful tool to help eliminate that. Yeah.

Clint Harris: 00:05:09

So in terms of the recapture, let's say you take 100% of the bonus depreciation upfront. The concern is if you sell that property, you got to pay that back because you're depreciating decades, taking it all up front.

You got to, you got to pay that back and recapture that unless you make it all the way through this 10 year period. And then when you exit, you have a step up in basis and it wipes that out and takes that away.

ng that people are using as a: 1031

Like with a: 1031

Ashley Tison: 00:06:02

It does, but you can't: 1031

Because what you have to do is you have to take capital gains, invest that into a qualified opportunity fund as your equity, you can couple it in with debt and then you go buy a deal in an opportunity zone that's either original use or that you're going to substantially improve. And when you do that now, after your fund investment turns 10 years old, you're now eligible for that step up in basis to fair market value.

, we use this to solve failed: 1031

So if somebody fails to identify or they fail to close within 180 days, we get a new 180 day clock to be able to roll them into a qualified opportunity fund.

So we work with tons of qis to set up captive opportunity funds for people that are coming out, they're getting their proceeds and they're like, wow, I don't want to pay taxes on these right now. I don't know what I want to do with it. So we set them up a qualified opportunity fund that immediately gets them between six months in a year.

Then if they don't find a deal in that in time, then they can roll it down into a qualified opportunity zone business. And now they got another 31 months before they have to deploy.

So it gives you a Lot of time for you to be able to figure out your strategy and find the right deal for you as well. So we do a lot of that.

But you can't: 1031

Neil Henderson: 00:07:34

y, so it's an off ramp from a: 1031

Ashley Tison: 00:07:42

So.

our QSDB, technically you can: 1031

years. So they're: 1031

Clint Harris: 00:08:09

So what I'm hearing already is that this feels like a classic. Who, not how, like I can go through a lot of work to learn the nuance of something that seems like it is a federal program.

And I don't know how you feel about those, but this one honestly feels like it's really working. This is directing capital into areas.

The tax code is written as an incentive to drive innovation and development and they're driving development into areas that they want to see that happen in poorer, more areas, poorer communities.

understand, oh, they're using: 2010

At least on 1.0 that makes a little bit more sense to me. But this is, there's a 1.0 version, there's a 2.0 version there. This is changing and adapting.

And I think to me it feels like they're seeing the success and they're like, oh, let's keep this going. Let's maybe make it a little bit more robust. Let's figure it out.

And we're starting to get to the point where the people that started on this, nobody's really gone full cycle through the full 10 years yet.

Ashley Tison: 00:09:32

stop. It didn't kick in until: 2018

Clint Harris: 00:09:36

So it's: 2028

And a lot of those people, it didn't really pick up steam in the mainstream for probably another year or two or three, maybe still is picking up steam. So it's really taken a while before we see people on the back end that are really benefiting from this.

And my anticipation is this is gonna become a lot more mainstream.

It feels to me like the fastest pathway to that success is gonna be using and utilizing someone like you, where I don't need to know how all of this works, but I need to know who does know how all of this works.

And then the question I have is, from your perspective, with everything you know about this, who is using this tool the best or what do the projects look like that are getting the highest and best use out of this incentive that the federal government has created?

Ashley Tison: 00:10:29

've helped, we've set up over: 2000

And this is all we do.

And so, I mean I've got examples from a, you know, bamboo farm to, you know, to many storage places, to boat and RV storage, the tiny waterfront, tiny home communities.

What I think one of the probably most powerful plays is because you can incorporate active operating businesses and get the same benefit, is some kind of dynamic that works, the interplay between the two.

So I had a guy that built a flux industrial center in a rural area and then he used that as a blue collar incubator slash accelerator where he put an accountant in there and a call center and like back office services. He provided those services to the plumbers, electricians, H Vac guys, that kind of thing.

And then he would go and make lead investments into the ones that showed themselves as performing well.

And so he's positioned his interest in those entities now that are probably going to grow 5 to 10x, you know, where those are going to come out tax free as well. And so I think that the highest and best youth play is something that kind of twines the two. But there's also all types of things that work as well.

You know, we've used it to be able to turn somebody's paving business into something where they have to roll their fleet every five years, where we're going to tee it up after they've held their investment at the fund level for 10 years to where they can now turn their fleet in one year, 367 days, and they're going to be able to not have any depreciation recapture on that equipment.

So in addition to the real estate that they've got that they're developing and that's growing in value now, they're also able to build this business that's an opportunity zone business. It's going to grow in value.

And along the way, they're now able to cycle through trucks, submit mixers, pavers, all that kind of stuff, take bonus depreciation off that, use it to offset the income for the business, and then sell Those equipment assets 367 days later and not pay any depreciation recapture.

Clint Harris: 00:12:50

Let me ask a clarifying question. I've been thinking about this from the real estate side of things.

Let's say a qualified opportunity zone boundary is a highway, and one side of the highway is in the qualified opportunity zone and the other side is not. What you're saying is if my business is on one side of the highway that is not a qualified opportunity zone, it's a regular business.

And if I relocate to the other side of the highway into a building that is in a qualified opportunity zone and my business is established in a qualified opportunity zone, it gets all the benefits. Along with investing in real estate with capital gains.

Ashley Tison: 00:13:23

Now you have to, you have to actually make an investment through a fund.

So you have to put a capital gain into the fund and then we need to bring that investment from the fund down into your business and recapitalize your business.

There's some nuances to how you have to do that, but yes, if you do it correctly, you can now position the next 10 years of growth and in reality, 30 years of growth to come out tax free. And so it becomes really attractive for people that have property in ozs.

Market this to operating businesses as a way that they could make the next 10 years of growth come out tax free.

Clint Harris: 00:14:02

Let me ask you this. Let's say that you have real estate or business that you already own in an area that is now a qualified opportunity zone.

Is there any way to backdoor into any of the benefits or, or anything like that?

Ashley Tison: 00:14:15

Absolutely. Now, a lot of it depends on how you acquired the land and when and what's on it.

at you bought either prior to: 2017

We can absolutely usually make that work post, you know, acquisition, that kind of thing. And we can definitely work with a business.

And so, you know, the great thing about it is that you don't have to own land in order to qualify as a business. You can get there under just a lease.

Clint Harris: 00:14:53

So this is super easy. Everyone should do it. And there's no nuance or challenges at all is what I'm hearing you say. So thank you for that. Ashley Tyson says that everyone.

Ashley Tison: 00:15:03

Now I will say this. So the reason why it's gotten so much traction is that there are nuances. But compared to other governmental programs, this thing is pie. It is you.

You don't have to go ask anybody for permission. You don't have to apply for a limited amount of funds.

You just have to do it, do it correctly, keep really good audit trail records, and then you're good to go and you can take the benefit. That's the reason why we've seen over $150 billion worth of money go into opportunity zones.

Clint Harris: 00:15:33

Well, that's a lot. So you led perfectly into my next question. So you push clients to build an audit trail from day one. That's something I know we've heard you say.

And there's three artifacts that you are insisting for Qualified Opportunity Zones, Qualified Opportunity funds or Qualified Opportunity. What's the QOZB that you've got written down? Remind me of that.

Ashley Tison: 00:15:55

Yeah. So you've got a Qualified Opportunity Fund. Think of that as your holding company.

And then if you want to get more flexibility on how you get to deploy the capital, you can invest into a Qualified Opportunity zone business, even if you're just doing a real estate deal. And so that could be like your propco. So you got Holdco and propco. And then you go and do your actual development work by investing into the qsdb.

It gives you more lead time on how long you have to spend the money. It also gives you some additional flexibility with how much your assets need to be good property.

So we usually have a double stack structure, unless you're buying something that's brand new, like new construction condos or townhomes or something like that.

Clint Harris: 00:16:38

Got it. Okay, so that. Thank you for that clarification. Again, veteran move. Right? There's layers to this. It's like an onion.

So talk to me about the audit trail that you talk about that everybody should have in place to protect themselves and create an ability to sleep at night.

Ashley Tison: 00:16:53

Yeah. So a normal tax filing situation, the IRS has a three year look back There's a three year statute of limitations.

And so if they don't cut something inside of that three years, then you're good to go. Right?

And there's a one year look back after that, depending on kind of what it is, that kind of drill in opportunity zones because you are the one that is peaking the position that you are entitled to the 10 year step up in basis to fair market value. The IRS can go all the way back to the beginning, way past three years, because this is a ten year program.

And make sure that you have correct documentation that you did this correctly from the outset. Because if you didn't, then you're not entitled to the benefit.

And so as a result, you know, you're not, look, you're not talking about how many to go back three years and grab bank records. You could potentially be going back 10, 20, 30 years.

And that information, if you don't have it built into like a really clear and distinct audit trail record can be really hard to find.

And I can't remember what I ate for breakfast, let alone what happened three years ago, let alone what happened 10 years ago about specific steps that I took and the reason why I did them.

And so that's what we help people do, is to build out that audit trail to make sure that it's organized, that it has what it needs in it and that you've got it for perpetuity, right In a clear, easy to understand and store file.

Neil Henderson: 00:18:20

So you, you've hinted that there are some ozs that are in high priced, high income areas or high income adjacent. But you know, there's a very specific kind of asset class that typically works in that. And like condos a lot of times you said don't.

I've heard you say don't typically work. What kind of assets do typically work in those high income OZ areas?

Ashley Tison: 00:18:46

sue or you bought it prior to: 2017

bad asset category under your: 7030

If you've got something that needs substantial improvement, like when you're doing a conversion from what you guys do with like a big box store into the individual storage, a lot of times that can work too.

Once again, if you are doing substantial improvement to it, so you have to double the value of the value of the building itself within a 30 month period. So if you're going to do that then it's going to work.

So if you buy a condo that's already been built and then you're trying to do that as an OZ deal, that can be tough to work out. So Puerto Rico, the whole island is an opportunity zone because they got special dispensation to make all of their low income census tracts ozs.

And I've had people come to me and they're like hey, I want to buy this condo that's on the water. And I'm like how much are you paying for the condo? And they're like $900,000.

I was like there's no way that you're going to be able to substantially improve that and make it pencil out because I can maybe allocate $50,000 to the land there. So you got $850,000 worth of improvements that you got to do. That's not going to fly.

Now on the other hand, if you're buying that condo before it gets co and before it's been rented out to before it's been placed in service, you get original use for that and that works. You also get original use for something that's been abandoned for more than three years as well. Well, so we can, we can work, right?

And there's nuances that we can usually apply to things with the exception of condos that are new, like just newly built and that they're really nice or if somebody comes to me all the time asking about like what kind of business can they do in the opportunity zone?

And the answer is pretty much everything with the exception of high end retail because that needs to be at south park or in the really swanky mall or something that's a like a financial services company that's going to be heavy on owning financial assets that's going to violate your non qualified financial property test. And you're not can't hold cash, accounts receivable, forward contracts, future contracts, annuities, that kind of thing.

Because they didn't want people setting up stock, creating stock trading companies in his own and you know, having that work.

Now one thing that is a play is, and we've done a lot of this, this is another kind of really use that we like is that bitcoin mining or data centers, particularly green data centers, those absolutely work as OZ deals.

Clint Harris: 00:21:34

Interesting. Yeah, there's a lot things in that space are happening very, very rapidly.

That's something we're Looking at taking our conversion strategy with storage and seeing, hey, if we can apply that to some edge computing data centers as well. There's a lot happening.

Ashley Tison: 00:21:46

Sure.

Clint Harris: 00:21:46

Let me ask you this two part question. What is the number one mistake that you see people making when they try to do this on their own?

And when is the appropriate time in the cycle for an investor to connect with you? Is it way early when they're thinking about this, before they've even sold what they're going to sell that's going to create the capital gain?

Is it when they're shopping it's like what's the biggest pitfall that you see people make and when's the right time that people should engage with you to make sure that they get it right?

Ashley Tison: 00:22:16

So number one is missing their 180 days.

So if they sell something that they own individually, they got 180 days hard deadline and it's actually 179 because you start counting the day of the sale and if you miss that, there's nothing I can do about it. Now if you sell through a partnership or an S corp, we can start that 180 days at different times.

st of: 2024

The second one is they jack up how they buy the property so they'll buy it like so we have people do all this the time they buy an asset and they want to get Fannie or Freddie, you know, financing, so they buy it in their individual name and then they're like, oh, I'll just convey it to my QSD later like I do with all my other stuff. You can't do that. That's a related party transaction and that's going to make that asset a bad asset.

So those are kind of the two biggest things that we see. And as it relates to when they should come talk to us, it is prior to when they have the gain.

So if they've got a big pent up gain, we can help them strategize about when they might want to take that gain. And then we also got some other tax mitigation strategies that we can do on the front end. So that's the ideal scenario.

Or if they're looking to do a deal in an opportunity zone before they actually buy or even Put it under contract because if you jack up putting it under contract there can be a non qualifying contribution that happens because you've got value that comes out when you convey that contract over to your qazb.

Neil Henderson: 00:23:55

So you're typically working, my understanding you're full service, you're working both with the individual investors who are coming to you with capital gains that they're looking to place into qozs and you're working with operators like us who are trying to set up opportunities in, in qualified opportunity zones.

Ashley Tison: 00:24:14

All right, yeah, so I've talked to, I mean when we, when we did the tally about six months ago, we talked over a billion dollars worth of capital gains and we've helped people put that money into like their own captive faults and that kind of thing. So we help them devise their strategy and actually execute that strategy.

And then we also help sponsors, we help people that are doing deals to get their deals done.

Then we've got a community, so we've got a mastermind where all of those people converge and we have a call every Tuesday at 10 o' clock and invariably some of those people that are looking for deals get matched up with the people that have deals through our community. Now we don't charge for that, we don't actively promote it or vet it or do any kind of due diligence or anything like that but deals happen.

So that's one of the benefits about coming into our community. We try to price that so that it's really fair for people.

I actually got a free offer for your listeners if they want to join afterwards where I'll give them a month free so that, that way they, if they're OZ curious. It's the fastest way to get your questions answered and to come up with strategy of any available resource out there.

Clint Harris: 00:25:25

That's awesome. Yeah, we'll put that in the show notes, that'd be great. That's very generous, thank you.

Neil Henderson: 00:25:29

So the magic sauce is that 10 year full market value step up in basis that wipes out the, the capital gains.

you know that people do with: 1031

Ashley Tison: 00:25:53

So I think that there's a general dynamic and ozs are having an undetected consequence of people now kind of turning on their head. This whole concept of having to turn assets in order to get irr.

And so instead of looking at irr smart Money, family offices and people that are looking to build generational wealth are now looking at okay, instead of how quickly do I need to turn this, how long can I hold this and really build alpha in this asset? And especially if it's tax free, alpha.

And so opportunity zones are now turning it on its head where people are saying, okay, how quickly do I need to turn this asset into, how long can I hold this asset before I need to sell it and get that exit on the back end?

, it's: 2047

Now I'm going to get a new step up in basis, the fair market value that I can now have a new depreciation schedule. And as it relates to my lifetime exemption amount, I've now cleaned that up relative to getting that step up in basis.

And so it, it is completely turning on its head this kind of, you know, buy, depreciate, die and into okay, how do I build this into this long term, you know, 20, 30 year strategy of building value in an asset and building a relationship with somebody that can actually help me, me execute on these assets and hold these for a long period of time and maximize the return off of them.

Clint Harris: 00:27:44

It's a different mentality.

We just had this conversation, I had a conversation with one of our potential investor partners and he's got 40 million personal capital that he needs to deploy with a partner.

He's got another 120 that they're trying to place and we're talking about some joint ventures and buying buildings together and converting them as one off partnerships. And we're like, okay, well what are you looking for? Like what? I don't know how to approach this.

Typically we're solving to an IRR for an investor base. So kind of what IRR are you looking to solve to here? And he's like, I don't care because I don't solve to IRR at all.

He goes that it's actually, that's, that's fine. He's like, you can have your projections or whatever, but I'm more about capital preservation on the back end.

And that depreciation, how's that going to affect my taxes on the long run? And how do I, I've got $40 million that I need to deploy.

The biggest frustration he deploys it and then it comes back, he wants to leave, he wants it out there, he wants to leave.

Ashley Tison: 00:28:41

He wants a zero coupon bond. Really? You got it.

Clint Harris: 00:28:43

That's exactly right. He doesn't care about the smart money.

Ashley Tison: 00:28:48

Big money is understanding that that transactional activity creates drag because there's brokers, there's lawyers, there's all of the people that have to be out there to get a deal done that create drag on your overall return. And so people like the smart money that's out there, they're looking for overall gross equity multiple, not irr.

So they're like, okay, if I put in a dollar, what am I going to get relative to cash flow off of that dollar? What am I going to get as it relates to tax mitigation on the cash flow on that dollar?

And then what's that dollar going to grow to over, over the course of the life of the hold and opportunity zones pair perfectly with that strategy.

Clint Harris: 00:29:32

Yep, I love that. And that's exactly what he said.

He goes, IRR is fine, but it doesn't factor in everything that, that I'm looking at because that's just one small piece of the puzzle. And it's such a big piece for the average retail investor.

The people are shopping IRRs and they're going to choose the highest IRR, even if it's the worst deal with the bad operator. And you still have people that will go for that because it's the best option. And that zoomed out long term vision is, is clearly the approach.

You see people, the smart money, the long money like you're talking about that make those bigger decisions.

a really good example of like: 1031

But the question to me is not just how do I understand this component as having this as a tool in my tool belt, but it's really like what this is best for is not the way that everybody thinks that long term vision and thinking ahead 10, 20, 30 years, what I can do with my business, the structure there, this is something different and it's, it's, it's going to create some separation, I think between the people that really lean into it and really utilize it and the people that don't or think it's a fad. This is something that is, it's, it's.

Ashley Tison: 00:30:50

Going to be a different anymore, right? Yeah, it's, it's Obtree made it permanent and it's going to be a part and a fixture now of financial planning and the smart money dynamics.

And America has needed this. It's needed something to be a catalyst to change the mindset of the fast turn and of quarterly results into long term wealth generation.

You know, Japan has had this mentality for the last 50 years basically since World War II, where they are more interested in the long term thing and the long term results than they are in quick turns. And look at what's happened as a result. And so I think that America is now getting a jolt of this and really smart capital is now starting to deploy.

Deploy this because they understand that this really fast turn is what. That's where the sharks live. Right.

And so they want to build relationships, they want to build connections, they want to build relationships that are going to pass through generational stuff. And so I think that this is a, a great way to do that.

Clint Harris: 00:32:03

I could not agree more, Ashley. This is great. Listen, for the sake of the listeners time and yours, we're going to start wrapping it up here.

But this, there's going to be a lot more questions coming. I'm really glad we've connected. I'm super excited to hear about your mastermind and look forward to engaging there.

One of the questions that we ask everybody, we used to ask people like what's your favorite book? But the reality is, you know, if you're. The question is this.

When you were talking about this with friends, colleagues or people trying to learn, is there a book or resource or educational material that you find yourself recommending more than any other?

Ashley Tison: 00:32:38

It's funny. Is it? It's really my mastermind, unfortunately. Right. Because I don't. Yeah.

There's very little out there that's actually got the depth that you need that is processable in like a, a bite sized deal. We've got this really robust educational product inside of our community that we spend an enormous amount of time and energy building.

And you know how many people actually go through the whole thing? Zero. Because they're not willing to invest the time just because it's just a function of life.

So if they come into the mastermind, they're able to participate vicariously through other people's questions, learn that way. Get, you know, we've got a basics, right. Like a OZ basics that they can do like as a primer to that.

And then our mastermind's the fastest way to a PhD in Ozd that's out there.

Clint Harris: 00:33:33

I love that. All right folks, you heard it Here first, the book that has everything you need doesn't exist. So Ashley Tyson is going to write it.

We're excited to read it. Can't wait for that. Listen, I think that this highlights the value of relationships and people. Right. Again, it takes me back to the book.

Who, not how, like I mentioned that a lot, but, like, it's going to be a daunting task to try to learn all of this yourself.

But if you're in a group where you can learn all the lessons that individually have really stuck out to different people, the velocity that you get from a mastermind and something like that all in one place is, is fantastic. So I love that. Thank you for sharing that as a resource. We'll make sure we put it in the show notes. Actually, Tyson, I think we'll wrap it up there.

Listen, I also know you're a professional speaker. Do you have any big events or anything you're working on this year that, that I need to know about?

Ashley Tison: 00:34:19

Well, I'm going to give a shout out. So if somebody really wants to deep dive into opportunity zones, the Novograd Trinity's Nut Conference is happening on December 4th out in Las Vegas.

And we've got a special discount code. It's, it's Oz Pros 10. And if they go to the Novogradic, you know, website, they can get a discount on to attend that. And I'm on a panel out there.

We're specifically talking about the things that people need to pay attention to relative to kind of the audit components of this and what they need to be building into their process relative to making sure that they've got a good audit sale.

And it's going to be exciting because of the 1.0 to 2.0 transition and some of the opportunities that are presenting themselves there, which I'd love to also, you know, help your listeners understand. I just went to the, the landing page that I've got for you guys. It's ozpros.com podcast on that there's an informational gather.

And so if you reference this show and say that you want the free month of Ascent, we will get you the link. Unfortunately, the free month of Ascent is not on that landing page right now. We're going to try to get it on before people get on there.

But if for whatever reason it's not, fill out that informational, you know, contact sheet and we'll get you a link so that you can join the Mastermind. And the first month's on me for your listeners.

Clint Harris: 00:35:46

Very generous. That's awesome. Well, Actually, Tyson, thank you so much. We really appreciate your time here. Look forward to connecting.

I think I know the answer to this.

We're going to ask everybody, but for the last time, if anybody wants to engage with you directly and start asking questions and getting counseling in terms of qualified opportunity zones, where's the best place for them to go to do that?

Ashley Tison: 00:36:04

Yeah, they can go to the website. So go to ozpros.com and either submit an informational thing there or just email me directly.

Ashleypros.com and you want to if you need the link to the free month or you literally have specific questions that get jumping into the Mastermind is probably the best way to get those answered. But happy to interact with your listeners there too.

Clint Harris: 00:36:27

That's awesome. Thank you Ashley. We really appreciate your time.

Neil Henderson: 00:36:30

This has been great.

Ashley Tison: 00:36:30

Thank you. My pleasure guys. Honor and a privilege to be here what you guys do.

Neil Henderson: 00:36:35

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Clint Harris: 00:37:04

Sam.