00:00 Introduction and Opening Remarks

00:23 Women's Bible Study and Retreat

01:45 Upcoming Plans and Hot Topics

03:18 Discussion on Jeremiah 51 and 52

04:12 Theological Insights and Reflections

05:53 Andrew Peterson and Wingfeather Saga

07:49 God's Justice and Vengeance

14:24 The Gravity of the Cross

15:31 Unlimited vs. Limited Atonement

17:17 God's Justice and Babylon's Judgment

23:13 The Fall of Jerusalem and the Temple

24:53 The Significance of Pronunciation

27:33 Concluding Thoughts and Prayer

Hey, welcome to Saturday's edition

of the daily Bible podcast.

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If you're reading your Bible and

you know it, clap your hands.

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That's not the way

you're supposed to do it.

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Oh, sorry.

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Close enough though.

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Don't hit the microphone.

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Don't hit the microphone.

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Clap like 16 times.

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It was just one of those.

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It was just that.

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Yeah.

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You know, we're all,

we're all in progress.

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Take folks not true.

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We did it in two takes yesterday.

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Cause I missed, messed up.

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Anyways.

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Hey ladies.

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Hopefully you're a women's Bible study

today and, uh, you should be there.

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Listening to a great sermon.

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No doubt.

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I hope so.

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I trust that.

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Yeah.

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I've been working with her on that.

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And she just took the sermon

that I preached on faithfulness.

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She's gonna appreciate it again.

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Well, what are they doing after this?

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Doing her own stuff.

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Uh, cause.

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We're trying to figure out at least

a plan about what we want to do.

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Yeah.

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What are the ladies doing?

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They're still working on that.

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They've got a little bit of a

break because they're going to do

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the women's retreat, obviously.

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That's right by the way, ladies,

if you're not signed up for the

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ladies retreat, you should do that.

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These bots are running.

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So many people sign up for this.

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Yeah, it's been great.

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I am like the women, just,

they just, they just do it.

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They're almost at 50, I

think, which is awesome.

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That's great.

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First retreat.

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So it should be good.

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Kelly at a Berry from Aliso

Viejo compass Bible church is

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going to be teaching for us.

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So that ought to be a fun treat.

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Should be great.

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Yeah.

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I've heard her teach a little bit before

I might've been eavesdropping a tiny bit.

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Yeah, she's pretty good.

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Yeah.

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Egalitarianism.

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No, I just listening.

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Yeah, I wasn't submitting tour authority.

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Right.

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Listening, right.

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Yeah, no, she does a great job.

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So she's going to be there.

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She's going to be teaching

should be just awesome.

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So October they're doing that.

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Um, September they're doing before

that, they're going to do a Q and a

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panel on cue and hospitality, which

is something that's not a front of

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spirit, but is a marker of Christianity.

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That's important for us.

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That's a good one.

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And a.

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Then I think November, December,

they're going to do a two-part

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series, much like we're planning

on doing with men's Bible study.

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So they're going to jump into

a new study in the spring.

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We haven't yet landed officially on what

that's going to be well on that guys, if

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you're listening, thank you for listening.

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Uh, we're weighing the idea

of doing a hot topics thing.

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So either to separate what.

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No, not hot pockets.

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Oh, okay.

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Two separate one partners

or a singular two-parter.

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So if you have anything in your mind

that you're like dying to have an

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answer to something that you're like,

oh, this is culturally relevant.

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It's a hot topic.

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It would be great for you

and pastor TJ to tackle this.

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Book of Hebrews.

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Well, I don't think.

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I mean, yeah, that's a debate worth

having, but I don't know that they're

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going to be saying that's a hot topic.

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Who's milk his deck.

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Uh, yeah, again, worth

knowing, worth digging into,

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but probably not a hot topic.

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So in the past, our women's

ministry used to do this back

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at the old church in Columbus.

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About what church?

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Elisa VAO.

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And they did things like, uh, Uh,

the woke ism movement, basically

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the white privilege situation.

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That book.

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Oh yeah, the secret and Jesus calling.

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I think, I think Stephanie covered

that Jesus calling and that, cause it

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was a big book at that point in time.

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Uh, so things like that.

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Hot topics that rise to the surface

things that would be helpful for you

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to, to understand if you want to send

that our way for potential ideas and

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maybe even us potentially covering that.

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Uh, we'd be happy to entertain

some of those things.

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Yeah.

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Something like my work requires

me to attend D D E I training.

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Should I go?

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Right.

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Like things along those lines.

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Something you could build a terminated.

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Yeah, you can preach that one.

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We can do that.

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Yeah.

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We'll co we'll tag team preach it.

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You're using the Royal we, which

I used a lot while you were gone.

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No I'm using the actual week.

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My pronouns are pretty specific.

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They're not flexible.

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That's good for so many reasons.

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All right.

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Well, Hey, let's jump into Jeremiah

51 and 52 as we finish up the book.

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The end of Jeremiah.

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Wow.

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This year.

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Hey, people have been asking, are we going

to be doing this plant again next year?

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Uh, you know, I, we, we haven't decided

that we haven't talked about it.

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We haven't really rubber-stamped.

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We're going to do a plan.

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And we're going to do new episodes

of the daily Bible pockets.

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Right?

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We're.

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Gonna keep these things fresh.

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So freshly baked every day.

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I promise you it will be the Bible.

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Okay.

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Good.

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Good.

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Start using.

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Fantastic.

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Uh, chronological or not,

we're going to be doing a plan.

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What if we did a three-year

plan and went slow?

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That's a lot.

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That's a lot.

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That's a.

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But, I mean, that means that would

mean we could go deeper every day.

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Yeah.

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Instead of, cause this

is a lot of territory.

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It's a ton of tea, like chapter 51.

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One is like 17 pages long.

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Two chapters, 51 52.

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There's going to be a cakewalk.

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Yeah.

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70 versus.

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A lot of verses.

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Yeah.

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Well, tell us about it.

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What's going on with.

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Chapter 51 we're covering,

uh, we're continuing the focus

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on the judgment on Babylon.

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The gentleman on Babylon and pastor,

rod give us a timeframe because you

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noted a timeframe here for chapter 50.

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One that I think is helpful

for us to set the context.

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So it's important to know that

chapter 51 is going backward in time

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in terms of the Babylonian judgment.

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We're looking my best guess on this

because of chapter 51 verse here

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on turning pages here, verse 59.

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Now verse 51 59 of chapter 50.

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One says the word that Jeremiah,

the prophet commanded Sariah,

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the son of Nariah sent a Messiah.

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When he was.

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When he went to wet.

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When he went with, I feel

like Lynn Manwell right now.

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I'm just not crushing it as well as he is.

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When he went with Zedekiah

king of Judah to Babylon in

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the fourth year of his reign.

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So rye was the quartermaster.

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So here you have a time

marker, which I believe applies

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helpfully to the whole chapter.

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At least that's my understanding of

it, which would then put us in the

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year 5 94, 5 93, that, that ballpark.

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And then in chapter 52, when we get

there, we're pushing forward again

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to 5 86 BC when Jerusalem falls at

the hands of king Nebuchadnezzar.

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So just a heads up, we're looking

at chapter 51, 5 93, 5 94.

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Good contextual markers.

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Also, I just want you to

read all those eyes again.

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I will.

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Last

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Wednesday, I read the

whole genealogy of Matthew.

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Yeah for Jesus.

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I was impressed.

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I only stumbled on one of them.

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Okay.

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I did, I did fairly well

singing it like Andrew Peterson.

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I was not singing it, but that's

a helpful song by the way.

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Begats Andrew Peterson.

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Yep.

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Sings a song that you may

want to sing with your kids

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or your wife or your husband.

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Uh, on memorizing the begets of Jesus.

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That's that's really cool.

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Just cut out.

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Cause you whacked her microphone

was so excited about it that

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I just couldn't help it.

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It's true.

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Yeah.

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Interpreter sends a

great artist by the way.

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Different he's not necessarily one

that you're going to have like a

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favorite worship song from, we're

not going to be doing it on Sunday.

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He's a storyteller and good storyteller.

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He does a good job with it.

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Yeah.

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He has a song about dancing

in the minefield, right?

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Yeah.

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That's a great song.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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How life is hard, so good.

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And yet you're dancing.

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In the midst of.

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We went dancing in.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's exactly it.

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Yup.

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Also parents, if you're looking for good.

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Kind of fantasy literature kind of in

that realm for your kids, his series.

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Uh, for kids called the wing

feather socking, feather saga.

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Yeah.

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My kids.

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At the top of their list, all

my, my readers they've loved it.

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All of them have, have read them.

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We bought it and no one

is sitting on the shelf.

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Yeah.

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And it was like, Hey, read this different

structure, different folks, I guess.

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So.

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But yeah, Josh loved it.

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He devoured it at the end of it.

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He wrote a letter to Andrew

Peterson because he felt like.

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He was struggling with

the way that it ended.

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He was mad about it.

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And so well, not mad about it, but

just, I think it was the first time

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that he had read something that wasn't

and they lived happily ever after.

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And so he read the series and then

wrote Peterson a letter and said, you

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know, I think this would have been

really cool to do this, this and this.

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And Peterson wrote him back.

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And said, Hey, I love your creativity.

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He said, one of the reasons why I ended

the book that way is because I wanted

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to leave it up to people, to, to.

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I think about and create an imagined

their own endings to the story.

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Um, but it's a story with biblical themes.

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I already liked.

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I'm with him already.

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Yeah.

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I'm with Josh.

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I don't like that answer.

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Well, that answer.

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That answer didn't make him upset.

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The end of the book made him upset.

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Right?

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I don't like that answer because that

tells me the way the end of the book is.

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And I'm already mad now.

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I'm glad I didn't read it.

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Well, you don't know

what the end of the book.

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I know you told me what it was.

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I didn't tell you.

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You said it without setting it.

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And I, now I'm totally opposed to it.

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I do not recommend this book series guys.

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Don't run far away.

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No, but in all seriousness,

it's a great book series.

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There's a lot of junk out

there and this one is good.

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It's got good biblical

undertones and themes to it.

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Andrew Peterson, the wing feather saga.

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There you go.

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All right.

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We're talking about the destruction of

Babylon, uh, 5 94, 5 93, BC as pastor

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Roger said, after reading all the IRAs.

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Babylon's in view here, but look

at verse five, even though God

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summoned them against his people.

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Like we talked about yesterday, they

were going to bear the guilt and some

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of the penalty for sending against him.

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And the treatment of Israel and others.

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And, and again, if this is

eschatological focused, then.

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This is really Babylon is as it

represents the world's power in

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standing in opposition to the Messiah.

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So they're going to be punished

for that in the future, but.

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It seems.

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Um, here that this is focused on

both the near term and the far term.

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Uh, judgment against

the Babylonians there.

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Verse five.

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Uh, verse 10 Israel would or will.

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That is rejoice at the

downfall of Babylon.

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That that day in the future

is going to come when Israel

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is going to celebrate that.

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And that's when, when we get to the

book of revelation, It's there's

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some troubling scenes there of

rejoicing over the destruction

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and destruction of the ungodly.

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And I think you see that alluded

to here in verse 10, for sure.

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Um, versus a 51 11.

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Notice here that the, the, the contact,

the short-term context is specifically

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called out because the spirit of the

destroyer back in the opening verse 51, 1.

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The spirit of the destroyer here F

51 11 is specifically identified as

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the meats, the Mito Persians Cyrus.

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Uh, and th their empire that is going

to come in and take out Babylon.

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We'll get there.

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When we go through the book of Daniel

in the not too distant future future.

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Verses 15 through 19, uh, here

I've found similar to Isaiah 40.

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I didn't know.

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I don't know if you pick

up on those parallels.

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Totally.

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Got it.

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Yeah.

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We're basically God is being

exalted and it's this poetic.

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Uh, praise of him and his power,

and especially as creator in the

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authority, in his sovereignty.

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And the greatness and the contrast with

the worthlessness of the idols, who

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are the adults and what can they do?

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Um, and so you get that interlude

there and then verses 20 through 23, I

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alluded to this in yesterday's podcast.

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Who is the hammer here?

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Um, you are my hammer and

weapon of war with you.

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I break nations in pieces and he goes

on in describes this hammer here.

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And the question is who is it?

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And some believe that this is Babylon.

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Hence the list.

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This is the list of things for

which God would judge them.

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I don't, I can't get there because I

think this is framed positively here.

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Yeah.

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Others have said this is Israel.

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God is going to use Israel in

the future as his instrument of

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justice against the Babylonians.

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I don't know that that fits either.

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Because Israel is not really.

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Ever.

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Militarized as his weapon of vengeance.

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Um, the, the, the people are, are really

kind of passive, even in the, in times.

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I think a third option is this

is the meta Persian empire.

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This is Cyrus here.

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Cyrus is the hammer.

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That's going to come against the

Babylonians and take them out.

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Perhaps a fourth is the, uh, the

concept that maybe this is the, the,

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the Messiah, the future coming of

Christ, that Christ is going to be

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the hammer in the hands of the father.

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It, which would fit Psalm two.

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Right.

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He's going to give them him a rod

and he's going to judge the nations.

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He's gonna shatter the nations

with his rod in Psalm two.

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Um, and so it's perhaps the

Messiah that isn't view here in

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these verses, but all that to say.

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We're not exactly sure who this is.

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I in my notes, I say everything

I write in my Bible is pencil.

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And because I know that sometimes can

erase things that I don't, I don't agree

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with in the next time I read it around,

but now I put, I think it's Cyrus.

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So I put Cyrus in my notes

here, at least in this section.

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Um, that's what I'm having here.

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And that's when I feel good about that.

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I don't feel like that's a big jump.

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I think contextually, because the

Meads are mentioned just a few,

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a few verses beforehand, right?

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That fits in.

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That that feels like

that's a good fit for me.

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Yeah.

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I think that's fair.

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Because in verse 24, he says, I will

repay Babylon in all the inhabitants

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of Khoudia before your very eyes

for all the evil that they have

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done in Zion declares, the Lord.

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Sorry.

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And again, all the evil they've done

in Zion that God ordained them to do.

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And now he's saying he's

going to shatter them.

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He's going to judge them for

that evil because they willfully

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participated and actively utilized

their agency to do such evil.

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Right.

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Even though God's ultimately

sovereign behind that.

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And one of the things that I wanted to

point out here is verse 24, you said this.

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But I think one of the things that we

can see as we read through sections, like

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this is that God is the one who ultimately

and reflects the vengeance that you and

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I can so often want to do for ourselves.

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The evil that's committed against us.

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We want an eye for an eye, a

tooth for a tooth, and that's

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certainly appropriate when there is

occasion to take advantage of that.

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When the justice system works.

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And people get what they deserve.

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So to speak, at least

in a, in a human sense.

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That's good.

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But ultimately people don't get

what they deserve in this life.

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And in many people get off scot-free.

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I mean, I think about most famously or

infamously, you have Hitler who did it.

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Suffer any justice.

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And even today, I think we have

people that have still been recently

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tried, never part of his regime.

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Which is amazing.

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You know, these guys are 90 nearing,

a hundred years old, and they're still

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being taken to the tribunal to, to face.

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Uh, to, to face the consequences of

their actions by them when they were

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just, you know, we lads teenagers.

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Here.

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We're going to see that

God says I will repay.

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And it sounds a lot like

Romans 12 vengeance is mine.

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I will repay says the Lord and therefore

you don't have to be the one to say,

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I'm going to get my pound of flesh.

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Because this person hurt me and

I'm going to go, I'm going to

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make them suffer for what they

did to me or what they said to me.

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I think there's part of us that.

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That could get to.

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Too involved in that to get, to get to.

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I don't know, to vested and saying, I

want to see vengeance done because as

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you mentioned in a previous podcast,

vengeance is God's alone and justice

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will be satisfied either at the

cross because they get saved or God

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himself will enact final justice.

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Babylon is a good picture for us to

say, God's got all things under control.

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I don't need to get my pound of flesh.

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I'm going to pursue justice

if the situation calls for it.

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And if I'm afforded that opportunity.

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But I don't need it.

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I people in the world, they need justice.

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They demand it because

they have no recourse.

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If someone dies without justice,

they've gotten off scot-free we

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don't believe that no one escapes

justice in this life or the next.

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And so that's such a good 0.1 that I'm

going to make as well tomorrow in, uh, in

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our message that we're looking at, John.

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Uh, the second point, I'll just give

it to you now, if you're listening

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to this, although it may change,

it's probably going to change.

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I don't bank on it, but it's

something along the lines of work to

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appreciate the magnitude of the cross.

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Uh, he talks about that.

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By the cross, the world will be judged

and the ruler of the world disarmed.

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Right.

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But that idea of the world being judged

and, and really the point there I'm

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going to be making is that, that every.

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Your eternity hangs on what you

do with the cross for everyone.

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It's either.

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What absolves you or condemns you?

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If, if your faith is there in

Christ, substitutionary death

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for you, then it absolves you.

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If it's, if you've rejected that offer,

then it condemns you and you will spend

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eternity suffering under the wrath of God.

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But it absolves you because

all of that wrath was poured

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out upon him on the cross.

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Like you were just talking about, I

was talking about this with somebody.

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Last week that the whole idea of.

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Our desire for justice in.

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Think about the, the, the person on death

row, the serial killer on death row.

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Who has a genuine conversion, right?

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The genuine conversion.

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Who knows, but let's say

somebody is on death row.

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Genuine conversion.

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There's a reality in which they

could be any eternity with their

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victims who were believers.

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Ooh, rejoicing around the throne of God.

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That's an interesting thought.

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It's overwhelming, even it is.

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But all that reveals to us is how

little we appreciate the gravity

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of what took place at the cross.

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The wrath of God being poured

out upon Christ for our sin.

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And then that naturally transit.

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Transfers to us thinking

about arsons, right?

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Like we're sitting here going,

well, we're not serial killers.

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Great.

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You're not a serial killer, but

you're lustful thought at the

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gym or, or your outburst of anger

with your kids or your wife.

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That needed the wrath of God as well,

deserve the wrath of God as well,

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suffered for you by Christ on the cross.

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Uh, it's just.

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I just am.

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I've been convicted about how

little I really appreciate that.

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The full magnitude and gravity of

Christ death on the cross force.

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Are you in any way leaning toward

an unlimited atonement position

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with, with your statements?

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No.

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You're not, you would still

say limited a Tillman.

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It's just that we don't appreciate

how much it goes into that cross.

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The calculation that God

made an eternity past.

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I was a number so large.

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It's basically in our minds, infinite.

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But that's still in your mind, a limited

a Toman in terms of its application.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I fall into the sufficient for

all efficient for the elect.

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Right?

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Okay.

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There's no one who is.

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Who can't repent from their stands and put

their trust in Jesus, as far as the, the

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atonement being unlimited in that sense.

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So, yeah, I mean, theologians get

themselves in pretzel brain real quick,

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because they're like, well, I believe

in an unlimited limited to Tillman.

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Right, because it's unlimited in

the sense that it's free for anyone.

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Yeah.

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But it's limited in the end, everybody

believes in limited to tell him that

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because it is limited in the end.

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Right.

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Otherwise we've got double jeopardy.

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And those in hell shouldn't be in hell.

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If the atonement really was unlimited.

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What we're talking about is, is the offer.

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Of a Toma unlimited.

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Yeah.

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That I'm okay with.

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I think we can go to anyone and say,

Hey, listen, your sins can be forgiven.

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If you repent from your sins and put your

trust in Jesus Christ and his death on

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the cross that his death was sufficient

to pay for your sins, because it was.

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But the effectiveness of it wasn't

because otherwise we'd be sitting in

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heaven with everyone that's ever existed.

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And we don't believe that to be the case.

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That's universalism.

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Yeah, but the idea is that if all

8 billion people on the planet

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said, we're going to bow the knee

to Christ and seek his forgiveness.

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His atoning work on the cross would

be sufficient to cover every single

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one of those bloodstains centers.

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Even Hitler, even Hitler.

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Yes.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And Stalin Mussolini, right.

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POL pot.

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Right.

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And, and whatever, whoever that

is that you go, wait a minute.

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No, I'm not okay with that.

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Yeah.

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That just reveals that we don't fully

appreciate the wrath of the cross.

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Um, and, and that's,

that's the idea there.

521

I don't even know how we got on that.

522

Oh injustice.

523

Babylon justice.

524

God will.

525

He will.

526

He's the one who

ultimately brings justice.

527

Yeah.

528

Yeah.

529

Justice at the cross or justice.

530

I was just thinking it'd be an

interesting experiment for United.

531

Do a, like to cope,

preach a sermon someday.

532

I was just talking about that.

533

Oh, Stantec tag, team preaching.

534

Yeah.

535

They did that a couple of pastor,

pastor Lucas and a pastor Bobby.

536

Yeah, I think they did that.

537

Like, it'd be fascinating to do

that and have that conversation

538

as we're talking through texting.

539

Yeah, work off each other.

540

That'd be fun.

541

Yeah.

542

Send us an email.

543

If you want to see us do

that, somebody will do it.

544

Yup.

545

Alright.

546

Hey, versus 34, 3 40 in the midst of

the prophecy of Babylon's and pending

547

judgment is found the section where

Judah complains about Babylon's crime,

548

but gets her and, uh, and the Lord's

apparent pacivity towards it all.

549

Hold on.

550

Yeah.

551

Verse 30.

552

Can you just address the fact that

Y Y Y the Babylons are women now?

553

You see that averse 30.

554

And what was the Babylon of CS fighting?

555

They remained in their strongholds.

556

Their strength has failed.

557

They have become women.

558

It seems like this is

promoting transgenderism.

559

No.

560

No, this is culturally there.

561

It's an indication that

they have no more warriors.

562

They have no more defenses.

563

They're they're rendered defense lists in

the face of God's judgment, weak, frail.

564

Yeah.

565

Tender gentle.

566

Yes, no.

567

Now they're not actually

women just to be clear.

568

Yeah.

569

Case there's any confusion about how

there are they're becoming women.

570

They're not actually becoming the

men's poetic ways, symbolize their

571

weakness and their inability to fight.

572

Right.

573

Which is not saying anything

negative about women.

574

I feel like we have to defend the fact

that women aren't all this, right.

575

This is just the cultural

context in which they live.

576

This is how they understood that

they would have everyone would

577

have been clear on what this

meant and what it didn't mean.

578

Right.

579

Hopefully we are too.

580

Yes.

581

How do we continue as mud?

582

I just thought that

needed to be clarified.

583

It's 2024, pastor BJ.

584

They've become more men.

585

Yeah.

586

They've not actually become women.

587

They're yeah.

588

As though.

589

They didn't have any men to

stand up and defend themselves.

590

Yeah.

591

Okay.

592

Versus 30.

593

real complaints about Bible

Babylon's crimes against her in.

594

And what they perceive to be the

Lord's in inaction, his passivity.

595

Uh, but the Lord responds again with

further declarations of judgment and

596

destruction that are going to come upon.

597

Babylon is similar.

598

In essence to Habakkuk saying,

dad, what are you doing?

599

Why, why aren't you acting?

600

And God's saying, I'm going

to act, and this is what I'm

601

going to do against Babylon.

602

Verse 41 through 48.

603

Then you get more about Babylon's

destruction that the defeat specifically

604

of her dots, he calls out some of the

Babylonian gods by name in this section.

605

And, uh, and talks about

how they're going to fall.

606

Verse 44.

607

I will punish a bell in Babylon.

608

That was one of the Babylonian gods.

609

The nation nation shall no longer flow to

him for the wall of Babylon has fallen.

610

And so Babylon is going to be stripped.

611

Her or gods are going to be defeated.

612

The judgment versus 49 through 53

is going to be sure and thorough

613

because of her actions against

the Lord and his people there.

614

There's going to be no.

615

Uh, there's no respite.

616

There's no acquittal of

Babylon in any of this.

617

It's going to be complete.

618

And then verses 59 through 61.

619

Then the words of this judgment against

Babylon were to be read to the exiles

620

in Babylon as a reminder of God's

faithfulness to them, which I thought is

621

an interesting way to, to kind of conclude

this, Hey, read this to them so that

622

when they're in Babylon, they remember

Babylon is going to get there eventually.

623

And it's interesting too,

because they're told.

624

Plant gardens.

625

You know, build houses, build

houses, get each other in a

626

marriage, marriage, and yet.

627

At the same time.

628

God said, Hey, make yourselves at

home, but they're going to get theirs.

629

They're not off.

630

Scot-free.

631

Real quick here in verse 44, I'll punish

a bell and Babylon take out of his mouth.

632

What he has swallowed.

633

It seems like God's talking to this God

of the Babylonians as a real entity.

634

Is he.

635

Is Belle or Marduke a real entity.

636

In the sense of, of, are there

demonic forces behind the

637

false gods of the nations?

638

Yes.

639

Um, so he would be a real God

and the lowercase G since.

640

And an Elohim of sorts.

641

He wouldn't say he's.

642

God Elohim that the, the one true God.

643

Right.

644

But he's a real entity, I guess.

645

That's what, that's what

I'm trying to get at.

646

It's a real entity that exists.

647

They understand him.

648

They know him as Belle, but he's

a, he's a false God lowercase G

649

and he's a God that will be judged.

650

That is a demonic entity that will

be judged, which is another reason

651

why you gotta be careful with things

that dabble in the spiritual realm.

652

I think there are real powerful entities

out there that would seek to deceive.

653

You know, I, I think about things as an

inane or innocuous, seemingly innocuous.

654

As the Weegee board.

655

Thank you is something like that.

656

I don't know how it works.

657

I don't know if there's

something else to, to define.

658

Uh, how, how the mechanism moves itself?

659

I don't, I don't know.

660

Maybe, maybe it's nothing.

661

Maybe it's a cool parlor trick, or

maybe it's really demonic engagement.

662

That's a, that's a.

663

Uh, sincere possibility.

664

You want to be careful, this is my point

crystals and, and Weegee boards and

665

astrology charts and things like that.

666

You just gotta be careful because

there are real things out there that

667

are not your friend, and they seek

to deceive and destroy and, and.

668

God knows he's going to deal with

them, but you ought to know too

669

that there are real things out

there that you ought to be aware of.

670

Yeah.

671

Uh, Daniel 10 20.

672

But now I will return to fight

against the prince of Persia.

673

And when I go out to hold, the

prince of Greece will come.

674

So.

675

So there you have demonic forces

referenced as the governing bodies

676

over these certain territory.

677

Nations and territories.

678

It could be a territory.

679

Uh, Northern Texas.

680

Prince prince of sorts.

681

Which is where prayer comes in.

682

So handy.

683

It's not just a, it's just a

nice thing that Christians do.

684

Right.

685

But we are fighting, as Paul said, a

spiritual battle, their spiritual warfare,

686

which is why we wear the spiritual

armor that we do in Ephesians six.

687

Now our power, we don't wrestle

against flesh and blood, but against

688

the rulers authorities and power.

689

So God is constantly reminding us that

there is a spiritual realm that we just

690

can't see, that we have to trust is there.

691

And therefore the battle that we

wage has to be spiritually engaged.

692

There are we, we have, we reach our

neighbors with the gospel, but man,

693

don't neglect, prayer and worship, and

the word of God memorizing meditating.

694

'cause all of these things.

695

You just can't see them.

696

They're there though.

697

And God constantly wants

to remind us it's here.

698

Trust me.

699

I know that it's there.

700

Let me tell you about it.

701

Let me tell you some things

that you need to know.

702

But don't try to wrestle

with flesh and blood.

703

Don't try to get your political

party in office and think that

704

you won because you did that.

705

The way that we win is by

expanding the kingdom of God by

706

preaching the gospel to the lost.

707

Seeing lives changed and transformed and

making more converts, which ultimately

708

will lead to the glory of Jesus Christ.

709

Yep.

710

Yep.

711

Check for 52.

712

Uh, as we transitioned there, this is

covering a lot of familiar territory,

713

a lot of ground that we've already

covered, but Jerusalem falls in verses

714

one through 11 under his, at a cow's rain.

715

Uh, is that a kind of

being the final king there?

716

Remember he's the one that was taken

and his eyes were taken away from him.

717

And.

718

Yeah.

719

And then he is taken to Babylon

where he eventually dies an

720

exile verses 12 through 23.

721

The temple is going to

be destroyed and burned.

722

Which is significant for us, it probably

loses is it's weightiness because.

723

We don't, we don't have a temple.

724

Right.

725

We go to our churches and things like

that, but we don't have the temple.

726

The temple was the heart in the center

of Israelite religious identity.

727

It was the place they went to worship.

728

It was the place where that represented

the dwelling place of God's glory.

729

So the temple being destroyed was.

730

Massively significant for

the people at that time.

731

Let alone culturally.

732

Anytime.

733

Conquering nation.

734

Uh, came into the land of another nation.

735

They would take captive.

736

The fault to gods of that nation, the

idols and things, they would carry them

737

back with them to their own town and

their own places, their own nations.

738

And they would put them in their

temples as this symbol that their God

739

was bigger than the God of the nations

that, that, that they had had conquered.

740

And so here, the fall of the temple of

Israel was, was communicating a lot.

741

Uh, to the world around them,

watching that take place.

742

Now God, wasn't worried about it.

743

He's still on the throne.

744

He's ordaining all these things that

happened, but for the Israelites,

745

we just need to feel the weightiness

of what this was going to be about.

746

In fact, this is our next book

limitations, a lot of what leads

747

the prophet into his weeping.

748

Uh, for what is going to take place here.

749

Versus 24 through 30, then the

people are carried away into exile.

750

Uh, and then finally the book

ends here with joy kitchen.

751

And who is freed from his room where he's

the one that went out and surrendered.

752

And he was originally taken

captive, but he's freed and he's

753

brought to the King's table.

754

There for the rest of his life.

755

We have one listener who said that we're

pronouncing Joey Chin's name wrong.

756

Okay.

757

He made the point and, and he's right.

758

He's made the point that the.

759

That the way that.

760

So in the English version.

761

Yeah.

762

Uh, we say Joey chin, cause you see

the ch there, but the ch in Hebrew.

763

It can be a case out.

764

Um, at least in English, it's a ch but

in Hebrew it could be a case on, and

765

I think that's what's happening here.

766

So yes, you are correct.

767

It is Joey a kin.

768

But chin is traditionally.

769

A lot of people have said it.

770

So we're not ignorant to that.

771

We were aware.

772

And just so you guys know that.

773

They're both appropriate.

774

In fact, most of the time that we

pronounce these names in English, there.

775

Their clothes, not accurate to what you

see in Hebrew, but they're not the same.

776

They're not accurate.

777

And even then, There's there's two major

schools of thought in terms of how you

778

pronounce things in Hebrew, there's

like the old way, the traditional way.

779

And then there's a more modern.

780

A more modern way of approaching it.

781

So we're, we're aware just

so you know, There's there's

782

different ways to pronounce it.

783

No, one's going to look twice at you.

784

If you say chin versus

kin, we all get it right.

785

Heads up, even for clarity on the podcast.

786

There's Julia Kim.

787

Yeah.

788

Kim Kim.

789

Yeah.

790

Like mom, and then.

791

Yeah.

792

Like, nah, Hey, whoever

sent that in, I love you.

793

I'll still care.

794

He texted me.

795

He just wanted us to know.

796

He said, did you know?

797

Awesome.

798

That's correct.

799

Can we kind of know that's great,

but it's at the end of the day.

800

Listen.

801

Yeah.

802

Like, I'm not that concerned

about the minutia of those

803

details, so I appreciate it.

804

But.

805

Joy again.

806

I have no idea who sent that in any way.

807

So, um, yeah.

808

Anyways.

809

Was Amanda, there it is.

810

I'll tell her.

811

I'll go and be like, great.

812

I don't, I don't care.

813

I just want my people to love their

neighbors and invite them over for dinner

814

and try to share the gospel within that.

815

So, Let's be passionate about.

816

I just last week,

mis-characterized that individual.

817

I don't think that it was just a,

Hey, did you know heads up FYI?

818

You know, Did you know about this?

819

Gotcha.

820

It was one of those, it was a playful,

like upbeat was not meant to be like,

821

are you even really pastors after all?

822

Yeah.

823

Are you guys, did you go to school?

824

That's fine.

825

That's fine.

826

I just I'm like, okay, great.

827

Cool.

828

I have my own things that I care about

that nobody else cares about too.

829

So.

830

Like what.

831

Um, or do I care about, um,

That nobody else cares about it.

832

Nobody else cares about.

833

The Texas Rangers.

834

I think there's a few

people that care about.

835

Uh, no little things bother me though, and

can totally distract me and throw me off.

836

Like if I'm sitting in a worship center

and there's something that I noticed

837

that's off kilter about it, like it will

distract me from whatever the sermon is.

838

Wow.

839

Um, I think they call that ADHD.

840

No.

841

It's compulsive disorder.

842

Yeah, just little minor things and

I'm like, from that about, yeah.

843

Yeah.

844

OCD.

845

So, yeah, I see that.

846

Anyways, but God's gracious to

all of us, which is a good thing.

847

So, all right, keep, bring your Bibles.

848

Let me pray.

849

And then we'll be done for this episode.

850

God, we thank you that you

are gracious with us and we

851

don't take that for granted.

852

We want to be.

853

Careful in what we expose ourselves to.

854

And as we were talking about the

reality of the demonic world out

855

there, that is something that

we need to be careful about.

856

And so protect us from that, protect

us from foolishness in that as well.

857

Help us to love you and, uh, to be

concerned about the monitors, but

858

really to major on the majors and

to focus on those things in, in

859

certainly a big part of that is.

860

Our continued witness for Jesus Christ.

861

And so we want to be faithful as a church

towards that end, and we want to see more

862

and more people come to know Jesus as a

result of our presence here in this area.

863

So we ask this, we pray

this in Jesus name.

864

Amen.

865

Amen.

866

Keeping your Bibles tune in

tomorrow for another episode

867

of the daily Bible podcast.

868

Bye.

869

Bye.