Laura and Xhafer reach the end of Season 3 with one lingering question: Is Bob Dylan Cylon god? Laura needs some Edward James Olmos motivation. Xhafer might donate a kidney if asked. This episode covers Battlestar Galactica Season 3, Episode 20: Crossroads, Part 2.

Hello and welcome to, who Are You?

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This is a Battlestar Galactic

watch cast, former strangers,

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friends, you know the deal.

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I'm just gonna skip through some stuff

'cause I think Laura probably really

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wants to talk about this episode.

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Laura, you finished this

episode about five minutes ago.

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Give or Takey.

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Laura: yeah.

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Ish.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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Xhafer: I mean, it sounds about right.

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I mean, given the message and

the time and everything, I'd

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say yeah, solid five minutes.

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so that was the big one.

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Laura: Yeah, that's, that's the big one.

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Is it Jair?

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Xhafer: would say so I think, I

think it's fair to call probably one

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of the, if, if it's not the single

biggest episode of the show in terms

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of amount of plot that moves forward,

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: hard to pick a different one.

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I, I, I can think of an episode

with a big reveal coming still

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Laura: Yeah, obviously

'cause we're still missing

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Xhafer: I would say that there's two

big reveals that still have to happen

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in the show, not counting anything that

happens in proximity of the finale,

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Laura: Is it, is it the fifth silo

and then the super secret Sixth Island

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Xhafer: maybe.

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Laura: Maybe.

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Xhafer: So, I'm just gonna go ahead

and give you some flowers on Anders.

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You've stayed firm on Team

Anders this whole time?

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Laura: Yep.

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I knew I would get at least one

because I knew there had to be Anders.

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Xhafer: Spoiler chat's really been

laughing at your insistence on Anders

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this entire time, because up until the

last coup mo the most recent couple of

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episodes, it really didn't seem plausible

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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No, I just, something

about that motherfucker.

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He is just gotta look.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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You, you've just known uh, you knew

before the writers knew in terms

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of moving through the episodes.

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Laura: yeah.

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Missed it on at least three other ones,

but I could still get some in the last.

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Xhafer: it, last episode, you were like,

the music means that they're silenced.

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'cause Anders hears the music,

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which I was all like, goddammit, Laura,

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Laura: yeah, but I was really

stumped 'cause I was like, wow, Ty.

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Really?

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Is that interesting?

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Xhafer: you were so steadfast on it that

I'm all like, but Tty, what about Ty?

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Doesn't Ty make that impossible?

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Like a little shit over here.

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Um,

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Laura: I couldn't, I

wouldn't give in, I wouldn't.

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Xhafer: so, now that you know, we're

gonna talk about this episode, I

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promise but you know, just this is

our first chance to talk about it.

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Do you remember when we were

recording, like five episodes ago and

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I asked you to name your five cys?

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Laura: Yeah.

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And I, I got it pretty wrong, I

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think.

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Xhafer: Do you remember?

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Except for Anders.

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Do you remember you named Callie?

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Laura: I did.

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Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: I was all like, but I thought

two Cylons couldn't have a kid.

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you thought we were talking about

this alternate scenario and you

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thought I had misunderstood you.

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But what had happened is I forgot

that you didn't know Tiro was a salon

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Laura: Oh

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Xhafer: I almost fucking

ruined it right then.

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That was the closest I came to

spoiling it throughout three seasons.

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Laura: yeah.

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I figured one of the two of them

had to be, but I thought it was

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funnier if it was Teel, a human man

getting duped by two female silence.

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Xhafer: sure.

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Um.

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Then I'm sure there's there.

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There've been a couple of comments a

couple of times where I've been all

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like, you've seen X amount of cylons.

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Like the first episode, I think

I was all like, how many cylons

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do you think we saw this episode

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Laura: I don't remember

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Xhafer: of?

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Yeah, this is like our first episode of

coverage and for me to just be all like

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this many and you were just like, whoa.

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And then, you know, not reference

the fact that I was counting

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these cylons in that count.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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Xhafer: I was so worried that this

was gonna get spoiled for you.

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Laura: No, it really didn't.

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Nowhere.

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I don't know how we managed it.

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Being in a PhD program helps, I think.

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Xhafer: It, yeah, I'm

sure having your mind

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occupied with so much other shit.

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Laura: yeah.

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So much other shit, and nobody

in the program has watched

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Battlestar Galactica, so Hmm.

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I guess we gotta take

it apart now a little

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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We should probably walk

through this episode.

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We open on Papa Dama shaving the light

flickers, and he cuts himself a little.

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Rosalyn calls to be like,

yell at me to get outta bed.

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And he's all like, nah, sick day.

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He managed to give a little bark

and then she's like, yes, sir.

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Another, and then he really gives it a go.

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Laura: This was cute.

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I thought this was cute.

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And I don't know.

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He, they're just, man, I

just want them to be happy.

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I

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Xhafer: It's gonna be tough after

some of the stuff that happens.

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This episode.

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Laura: gonna be tough now, but they've

gotten through some things before.

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I don't know.

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We'll see.

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'cause we do end with like

in media silent attack,

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Xhafer: Oh yeah, we have, we gotta

talk about the ending of this.

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The actual ending ending of

this episode too is crazy.

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Laura: Yeah, there's a lot of crazy here.

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Xhafer: It's like, I have

a note when we hit it.

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That's just how like the trial's over and

there's 15 minutes left of this episode.

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You know, it's about to get fucked.

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Laura: yeah, I was like, oh my

God, I still have 12 minutes left.

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And no Silences have been

revealed yet, and I knew there

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was gonna be more than one.

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And you know, we had four

people actively hearing music

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throughout the last two episodes.

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So yeah, I was like, oh my God, I can't

believe we still have 12 minutes and

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the big thing hasn't happened yet.

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Oh my God.

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Xhafer: And it's just like, is that the

big thing that happens this episode?

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Laura: I mean, there's a

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Xhafer: there's a Exactly.

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There's a lot.

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It's, it's not a definitive statement.

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Laura: Yeah.

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I, I've.

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Really would like though somebody

to just snip the audio of Adama in

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the last part of this scene telling

Rosalyn don't let them see you sweat.

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Laura.

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I just need that and we're just gonna

put that on my phone and I'm just gonna

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hit it a whole bunch this semester.

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'cause this is the toughest

semester of my program so far.

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Xhafer: So let 'em see a

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Laura: I just need to hear it.

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I need to hear Edward Sham almost.

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Tell me not to let him see

me sweat over and over.

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Xhafer: I wonder if that's an

animated image somewhere that we

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can find for you to put in the

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Laura: Yeah, some just spam it in the

Discord for the next 16 weeks, folks.

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Oh, well by the time this comes

out, um, it won't be 16 weeks

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anymore, but you know what?

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You can go

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Xhafer: be closer to eight.

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It's still January for us.

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This episode airs in March, I think.

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Laura: Yeah.

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But 16 weeks is fine guys.

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Keep going.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Just keep it going.

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Tyrell, here's the music in his sleep.

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Anders and Tori be banging.

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Uh, Yeah.

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Laura: I, I feel like this was supposed

to make me try to faint me and be like,

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oh, she was staring at him in the bar.

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'cause they're actually like, you

know, banging around and stuff

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and it had nothing to do with

the music and I was like, mm-hmm.

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I don't think so.

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Xhafer: it's the music.

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There's a knock on the door when

the rest of the nuggets come in.

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Celick is so disappointed.

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Laura: Oh man.

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Do you think she and

Anders were banging too?

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Or she was just like

trying to get in there?

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Xhafer: I think she was trying, I think

she was planning on getting in there but

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was trying to give him a little space.

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'cause you know, his wife just died.

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Laura: Yeah, but.

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Xhafer: Was all like, you know,

maybe at some point and then

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missed that opportunity already.

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Laura: This, that was so uncomfortable.

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I was like, oh man,

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Xhafer: Tiro wanders around the ship.

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As Lee puts forward calling a mistrial.

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Romo agrees that their victories

and disqualifying witnesses

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have only embittered the, those

who distrust gaas against them.

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But Gaas isn't interesting in

delaying his life any further.

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He'd rather be free or dead.

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Laura: But uh, he's not really thinking

through what free means exactly.

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Xhafer: no, he learns that much later.

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Just is distracted from

training by the song he hears.

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Tyrel humming it.

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They talk about it for a moment.

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Laura: From childhood, they say

it feels like something from our

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Xhafer: feels like something

from their childhood, um, very

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casually a number of times.

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I don't know.

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How, are you familiar with the

song All along The Watchtower?

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Laura: I am actually not.

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I know it's Jimi Hendrix, and that's

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all I

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Xhafer: Bob Dylan.

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Laura: Oh damn.

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Xhafer: Jimi Hendrix did cover it.

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And, and, and to be fair, Jimi

Hendrix made it significantly more

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famous than Bob Dylan's original.

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: Um,

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Laura: Well, fuck me.

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Xhafer: um, they put lines in from the

song all over the place in this episode.

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Laura: Yes, so I, I did catch,

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Xhafer: it at the end when the

song is like about to start

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playing and it's like vamping up.

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They do like five or six lines from

the song real quick, but also like

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in this conversation, there's one,

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Laura: Ty says something about,

there must be a way out of

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here at some point.

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Xhafer: Ty says a couple lines out of it.

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Anders says one to Tyre here, or maybe

it's the other way around, but there's

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like lots of them hidden in the,

just the script of the episode two.

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Laura: Just conversations.

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Yeah.

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I mean, because I don't know the song I

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Xhafer: and I also hid one in the

episode description I made for last

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week for or of, of this episode.

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Laura: man, you gotta tell me

again, or I'll have to listen

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Xhafer: The wind begins to howl.

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It was the line I added to the

episode description, which is

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another line from the song.

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Laura: okay.

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Xhafer: And I mean, now that you hear

specifically Bear McCree's version of it,

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Laura: Okay, so this is

not Jimi Hendrix playing.

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Xhafer: no, this is,

this is Bear McCreary.

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This is a very different version of the

song than any that had come before it.

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Laura: okay.

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Xhafer: and it really emphasizes that ba

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which is why I asked for

that in our theme song

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: forever ago.

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Laura: I, I knew that there was

some connection eventually to

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this, these things in the show, and

that's why in the last episode I was

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like, oh, it's gotta be that song.

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Right.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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I will say like as soon as we're done

recording, be like, Hey Alexa, play

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Bear McCreary along the Watchtower.

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and there is also a live concert that he

did a bunch of the music from Battlestar

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at with like a rock band and an orchestra.

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And Katie Soff comes out and

plays piano and they do this song.

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Laura: Wow, that's so cool.

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Can I watch that yet?

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If it's like on YouTube.

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Xhafer: the concert probably,

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: um, 'cause it's just the songs.

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I don't know that even in, oh

God, do they talk in between?

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I wouldn't watch the full concert.

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Laura: Okay.

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Xhafer: but just that song I'm going

to assume is safe from that concert.

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I will.

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I'll make a point of giving

it a listen tomorrow,

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Laura: We should run it by the Maestra.

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She probably knows off

the top of her head.

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Xhafer: I'm sure if any song is pulled

out of that concert, it is this one

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: and it has its own video

that is going to be just the song.

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Laura: Gosh, man.

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Xhafer: good.

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I, I listen to this cover all the time.

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This is, I mean, all along the

Watchtower was like my favorite

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Pop Dylan song for a long time.

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Laura: Uhhuh.

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Xhafer: I don't know

that it isn't anymore.

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I don't, I dunno what else

would've supplanted it.

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is a song that, like, I was obsessed

with this song before Battlestar

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Galactica, and then in college I was so

into Battlestar Galactica that this is

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Two great tastes that

taste great together.

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Xhafer: All right.

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Uh, Episode Rosalyn gets some space chemo

and has another COBOL Opera House vision,

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Laura: Yeah,

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Xhafer: She

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screams at the same time that like

Harris Screams and Athena screams.

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'cause everyone's in Med Bay.

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Laura: Yeah.

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I was kind of wondering at the end of

the last episode if the cancer was even

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real, like if Rosalyn was just saying

something on the stand to excuse her.

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Yeah.

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Excuse her.

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Kamala use.

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but pretty quick.

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This episode's like ye yes.

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It's okay.

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Keep going.

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You don't have to wonder about that.

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It is real.

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But it very weird that all three of

us react to this at the same time.

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And there was a fourth

person in that vision.

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Xhafer: Caprica six, they go

visit her in the holding cell

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and she was there with them.

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She's like, no, I wasn't trying

to like stop you from seeing her.

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I was just trying to protect her.

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I just knew that she

needed to be protected.

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So I was trying to protect her.

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I don't know what's

going on in this dream.

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It's weird that we were all there

and like her and Athena are like, oh,

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this, this makes sense a little bit.

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But when Rosalyn was also

there is the breaking point,

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: which is interesting.

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Laura: Except she's a super

secret sixth silent, so it's fine.

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Xhafer: I mean,

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Laura: I'm gonna be sticking

to my guns on this one

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Xhafer: yeah.

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You think it's, you think it's Rosalyn?

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Laura: Rosalyn's.

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Super secret.

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Sixth silent.

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I think there's a fifth,

but something is, yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm hedging my bets, so I get to pick two.

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Xhafer: Okay.

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I mean, fair play the game.

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But like.

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Is it not obviously star be's.

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Laura: I don't know.

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I, I need to hear more from star be's.

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I need more.

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Xhafer: Okay.

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Well, we'll talk about that when

we get to the end of the episode.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Ty tells Bill about the music.

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He says he'll look into it.

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He quotes another couple of

lines from the song here, and

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then we get Gada on the stand.

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Laura: Yeah.

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I really thought there

was gonna be more to this.

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Xhafer: He lies about being there

when Gaia signs the big execution

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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That was a lie.

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I was pretty sure, especially, well,

I was sure it was a, a lie that

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it was just silences in that room.

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But then also he says that Gaia

did nothing and did not try

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to resist, and he obviously

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Xhafer: That's a, that's a big old lie.

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Laura: Yeah, if he had been there

at least that would've been a lie.

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Xhafer: Baltar's pissed.

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He's all like, you can't honestly expect

impartial testimony from the man who tried

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to assassinate me, couldn't even do it.

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Butter fingers.

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Laura: which like actually

is kind of a good point

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Xhafer: it's a good point.

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Laura: because that, I think

there's still something there.

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I, I think there's something that we are

gonna find out about Gada did, or, I mean,

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I don't, I get, I think on my, if I have

to still think about my list of silence,

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I don't think Gita's on it anymore.

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but he did something bad, I think

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Xhafer: I mean, what gated did and

what gated does will be important going

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Laura: the fourth season.

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Yeah.

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I, I think something's wrong there.

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I don't.

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Xhafer: Gada is more of a focus character

in season four than he was in three.

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Laura: We sort of, we, we kind of had

like our episode where we're like,

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Hey, remember this, and then we kind

of just like, boop, boop, boop, shoved

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gata off to the side, except when he

stabbed the guy and yeah, I don't know.

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Xhafer: So I was reading about

this season and we can talk

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about some of this stuff now.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: the reason there was so

much Sagittarian stuff and like the

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Woman King episode in particular

was they were originally planning

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on because they weren't gonna be

able to discredit gata in the trial.

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So they're like, okay, well there was

also this other Sagittarian massacre

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where they killed a bunch of Sagittarians.

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And there is another, like one of them

was there and saw you try to fight the

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cy on an execution order so we can use

that and have someone else testify.

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And so they were planning all this

stuff around that and then they ended

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up canceling that plan after they had

already written past Woman King, but not

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filmed Woman King and went back and had to

rewrite it to remove some of that stuff,

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Laura: Um.

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Xhafer: do the ending of the

trial with Lee that we get.

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But that's why there's like weird

stuff before that episode where they're

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trying to like bring in Dogville and

the Sagittarians and all this, and

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then it just gets dropped so quickly

because they were using it to build for

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this trial as a way to save Baltar and

then abandon that plot line completely.

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Laura: Yeah, I don't,

I don't like that, so

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Xhafer: It's one of the reasons why

those episodes are weak is because

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they don't go anywhere because they

were building towards a thing and then

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they last minute decided to not do it.

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And so when it got to the point

where that would start to be

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important, it instead just crashed.

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Laura: That makes a lot of sense.

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But I'm kind of glad they didn't do it.

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I don't know.

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: So

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Xhafer: Yeah.

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Laura: a, something wrong

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there.

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Xhafer: Fingers.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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I am ready to find out

what his whole deal is.

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Xhafer: I give it a couple episodes.

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Romo has no questions for Gada.

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If he's gonna perjure himself, nothing

good is gonna come of it anyways, so

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Laura: Yeah.

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I, I agreed with Romo.

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I was like, I don't see

what he can possibly do.

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'cause it is a, it is a, he said,

he said no one else was in that room

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except for silence, who are not here.

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And nobody likes Gaas.

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So there you go.

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Xhafer: After a quick recess the defense

is now able to present their case.

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Romo asks for a mistrial

and Gaia starts to lose it.

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Laura: I hate this guy.

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Xhafer: well, honestly I

kind of liked this bit.

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I think this was a smart play by

Romo to ask for the mistrial here.

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Laura: Oh yeah.

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I'm not saying I hate Romo.

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I hate Gais

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Xhafer: he,

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Laura: a little petulant

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baby.

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Xhafer: gonna do this though.

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Like Romo knows that this is

gonna be guy's reaction 'cause

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he brought it up with him before.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: And so to have him be all

like, no, I would, I want this trial,

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I think is an important way to

help redeem him and his image

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a little bit, which is what he

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Laura: I guess, I guess, I don't know.

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Xhafer: Uh, But he calls Lee up to

the stand after pointing out that

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Adama has already made up his mind.

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This is something that Lee

had shared in confidence.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Early, early in the episode and

the second he says this, I'm

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like, oh, you just fucked this up.

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Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Lampkins, like he said

that, he actually said that

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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And, and the fact that Lee didn't

clock the consequences of that,

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Xhafer: it's 'cause he's a dummy.

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He's a dummy who thinks he's not a dummy.

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Laura: yeah, he's a dummy

who thinks he's not a dummy.

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'cause he, he,

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maybe he clocks it, but he

thinks, oh, that'll never happen.

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That can never happen.

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He would never do that.

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And then of course he's

gotta fucking do that.

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You dumb

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Xhafer: Like Lee is my least favorite type

of person because Lee is the person who

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will make a mistake and not learn from it.

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Laura: Mm-hmm.

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Xhafer: 'cause this is not the first

time he's brought something up in front

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of Lambkin that he shouldn't have.

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That was then immediately used

to make him do something in the

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trial that he didn't want to do.

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Laura: Yeah.

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Xhafer: Like literally, this

literally happened the last

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episode and you fell forward again.

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You dummy.

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Laura: And I really.

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I feel scared now 'cause sometimes

I secretly fear that I am Lee.

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Oh, please, please don't let me be

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Xhafer: had a moment of introspection

in your life, like worrying about

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being Lee is what makes you not lee

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Laura: Oh, thank God.

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Phew

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Xhafer: boo dashed.

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Laura: man,

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Xhafer: Like worrying about not

learning from your mistakes is

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how you learn from your mistakes.

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It's a great way to go about it.

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Not the only way, but a

great way to go about it.

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The thing

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Laura: it's a good start, I suppose.

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Xhafer: repeat those mistakes.

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Yeah.

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Thinking about your

mistakes, introspection.

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Lee's all like, no, I'm not

gonna testify against my dad.

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And then he gets called up to the stand

and he is all like, did he say this?

492

And he's all like, Hmm, if I hold my

breath long enough, then I'll pass out.

493

I don't have to answer this question.

494

Hmm.

495

Laura: His face looks especially stupid

without like he's doing the haircut

496

without the product like we talked about.

497

Xhafer: Yeah.

498

Laura: It's like he

really needs the product.

499

That's part of who he is.

500

Like, yeah, and the suit, the silly suit.

501

Oh my God.

502

Xhafer: Yeah.

503

It was like the, the context of

getting him up there on the stand,

504

which was weird in the first place and

the prosecution called, it was like,

505

Hey, this is kind of fucking weird.

506

Was like, okay, well he's got information

about like one of the jurors being

507

contaminated 'cause it's his dad.

508

Right?

509

Like, okay, that makes sense.

510

Laura: That seems Yeah.

511

Like a good reason to talk to the

512

Xhafer: Right.

513

But then when he's like, okay,

well tell me why you think Geis,

514

Baltar deserves a fair trial and

the prosecution's all like, this is

515

literally what closing arguments are for.

516

Laura: Yeah.

517

Xhafer: Right.

518

Which is hilarious because after

they do this great speech that

519

we're gonna talk about in a second.

520

They rest their case and then neither

side gets to make closing arguments.

521

They just go and deliberate immediately.

522

Laura: They're just like,

well, we're done here.

523

Yeah.

524

Xhafer: This can't be how this works.

525

Laura: The prosecutor

deserved one more shot at it.

526

Xhafer: we saw the prosecution

rest and the defense take over.

527

So it's not like they did it

earlier and we just missed it.

528

It's like we saw the moment of transition,

so there is just no close argument.

529

So her point doesn't make any sense.

530

Whatever.

531

Laura: I mean, maybe she just got

steamrolled and she intended to

532

get closing arguments and the judge

was just like, Nope, we're done.

533

Xhafer: yeah, this is Lee

gives a big speech here.

534

the prosecution's all like, fuck this.

535

Come on guys.

536

And then the judge is all like,

I'm inclined to say fuck this.

537

And then Adam is all like, I

want to hear what Lee has to say.

538

I'll listen to him for the first

time in our relationship in earnest.

539

Sure.

540

This one time.

541

Laura: He seems to want it

so bad he's gonna do it here

542

in front of everybody, so.

543

Xhafer: And he fucking goes, Lee

is bringing up every sin forgiven

544

imaginable that he can think of.

545

He's like, the president issued a blanket.

546

Pardon?

547

For.

548

Everyone for everything on new Caprica

ties, you know, suicide bombing the

549

Mutiny against Kain, the military coup,

the destruction of the Olympic carrier.

550

Everything is forgiven, but not gais.

551

He has to die because he's an asshole.

552

If we blame him for all of our failures

and just shove them into him like a

553

Jeff Dunham puppet and then throw him

out the airlock like Jeff Dunham's

554

career, then we can be absolved of

ever making Jeff Dunham popular, but

555

also the stuff on New Caprica car.

556

Laura: The whole time Lee is

making this excellent speech

557

with the Jeff Dunham metaphors.

558

I am pondering because I'm

like, with what they know.

559

Yes.

560

He's making an interesting point.

561

Maybe even an excellent point, but

we, the audience know that Gaia's

562

Buffoonery killed a whole lot of people.

563

Millions of people in the colonies, like,

564

but they Nobody knows that.

565

Nobody knows

566

Xhafer: Rosalyn has one

like acid trip about it,

567

Laura: Yeah.

568

Xhafer: which is not enough

evidence to kill someone in a

569

trial.

570

Laura: it's, yeah.

571

I mean

572

her acid trip is correct, but

that could be a statistical fluke

573

Xhafer: Look, there's a percentage,

I don't know what this percentage

574

is, but there is a percentage of

acid trip visions that are actually

575

accurate despite being unbelievable.

576

It has to be, it has to be one or

more in the history of acid trips.

577

Laura: Sure, Yeah.

578

Yeah.

579

So it's so frustrating for me

'cause I'm like, this is the,

580

like legitimate and correct thing.

581

Xhafer: Yeah.

582

Laura: You, you, we should not,

this is not enough evidence.

583

It's in our legal system.

584

It's beyond a shadow of a doubt.

585

Right.

586

And if you have that shadow of a doubt,

you are not supposed to convict somebody.

587

Right?

588

Yeah.

589

And.

590

pasting my standard onto this

show, which hasn't said exactly

591

that, but I think we're supposed

592

to kind of put that together.

593

Yeah.

594

I'm like, yeah, no.

595

With this context, with what you know.

596

No, but with what I know,

597

it would be a little more justifiable.

598

I mean, I think that as Gaia said, he

never intended anything, but that doesn't

599

fucking matter when you're dealing with

the whole planet security systems, codes,

600

Xhafer: Yeah,

601

Laura: intent, doesn't matter.

602

It's the impact of it.

603

Um, so very disappointing.

604

Xhafer: Also, I'm pretty sure that

like back in like episode five when

605

they mentioned that blanket pardon?

606

As rosalyn's taking over from uh,

607

Laura: I.

608

Xhafer: Za,

609

Laura: Yeah.

610

Xhafer: I think it explicitly

doesn't Pardon Baltar.

611

I think they, I think they mentioned that.

612

I remember a throwaway line.

613

Laura: He's not back yet.

614

When that belt, when that blanket

pardon is issued anyway, like

615

we just know he's not around.

616

They don't even know he's

with the silence necessarily.

617

Xhafer: no.

618

They think, probably think he's

dead for that first little bit.

619

I don't know.

620

I don't remember.

621

When they find out he's still alive.

622

It's sooner than I

thought it was gonna be.

623

But is it before that two part?

624

Or they find out he is alive?

625

He sends a message

626

Laura: It's,

627

Xhafer: Because

628

Gada knows pretty quickly.

629

Laura: it's right.

630

I don't, I don't thought it was like

right when we all show up at the Jupiter,

631

at the algae

632

planet or whatever, when they all show

up at the algae planet, that's when they

633

Xhafer: Yeah, no, that's

when they get 'em.

634

Laura: Yeah.

635

But he does, he does send a message.

636

That's true.

637

I don't know.

638

I still do not like Geis

639

Balter Lee Lee can be right about

this, but he's still fucking

640

sex.

641

He is a danger to humanity.

642

Xhafer: A commercial break covers

the tribunal's deliberation.

643

A vote of three to two finds him

not guilty and the crowd erupts.

644

There's people who are happy,

there are people who are angry.

645

Rosalyn like immediately leaves.

646

He's just like, I'm getting

the fuck outta here.

647

Laura: Yeah.

648

I, I think that's a good time

to take your security detail and

649

Xhafer: Yeah, for sure.

650

It turns violent pretty quickly.

651

Someone tries to jump gaas,

but uh, they managed to get

652

him out there pretty quickly.

653

GAAS is like so sure he was

gonna win the entire time now,

654

and it's all because of Gaas.

655

He makes it about him very quickly.

656

Uh, he's all like, I could have seen

the Admiral Squiring a little more.

657

And he's all like, motherfucker,

658

Laura: Just 'cause we did what

we felt was the right thing in

659

this legal system doesn't mean we

actually wanna talk to you anymore.

660

Xhafer: right?

661

Laura: No, he was so obnoxious.

662

Like

663

Xhafer: sure.

664

Laura: as the, before we even get to

the cell where he is gathering his

665

things now as the audience is starting

to erupt, he's like accosting reporters

666

like with his crazy eyes, James Callis

crazy eyes just like ranting about how

667

this whole thing was a sham and he's

so great and immediately starts in on

668

that in the cell and both people are

like, I don't give a royal fuck my sir.

669

Xhafer: Yeah.

670

Yeah.

671

When he tells him not to push it, he,

he's like, Romo, you can like be the

672

guy who organizes my book tour and he

is all like, um, actually, I am now the

673

most influential lawyer in the fleet,

and we have a legal system again.

674

I'm going to be busy.

675

Fuck off.

676

Laura: Yeah.

677

He thinks that, that we're

friends because you hung out

678

with me for the last three days.

679

And uh, you're gonna, you're gonna

handle all my legal stuff for me.

680

You're gonna be my personal lawyer.

681

Right, right.

682

And uh, no,

683

I assume we never see Romo lampkin again.

684

Xhafer: I said maybe,

685

Laura: okay.

686

All right.

687

Maybe there's more legal shenanigans.

688

I thought we would be done

with them, but perhaps not.

689

Mm-hmm.

690

Xhafer: I mean, this show likes to find

ways to bring people back when it can.

691

You know,

692

Laura: I wanna know how

Derrick feels about all this.

693

I hope that we get that

in the first episode.

694

It, well, the first episode of

season four might just be like we're

695

Xhafer: you have not

seen the last of Tom Za.

696

Laura: I wanna know how he

feels and what he's wants to

697

do about

698

Xhafer: Hatch didn't like

suddenly get a thing that made

699

it so that he couldn't show up.

700

Like you'll see Tom's Eric again.

701

Laura: Good.

702

Xhafer: Lampkin calls Lee, an honest man.

703

He sets down his cane, puts

on his glasses and walks away.

704

Laura: Yeah.

705

Yeah, we were pretty much glasses

off the whole trial, right.

706

For the, over the two episodes and now

he's done being earnest at everyone

707

and the glasses are going back

708

Xhafer: He's done wanting people

709

Laura: actually need this cane.

710

Yeah,

711

Mm-hmm.

712

Yeah, he uh, didn't need this cane.

713

That was just for show.

714

Xhafer: Mm-hmm.

715

Laura: he, he tells Lee that he's

an honest man in this sort of, um,

716

Xhafer: Unlike your grandfather.

717

Laura: well, yeah, and the sort of

like vocal tone I'm hearing on that

718

is sucker not so much honest, man.

719

It's like I knew I could mess

with you because I knew exactly

720

how you were going to play out,

721

Xhafer: Rosalyn talks to Papa dama and

he tells her that he voted not guilty

722

and

723

Laura: I, I knew the second it

said three to two not guilty.

724

I was like, oh, it's Adam dama.

725

Yeah,

726

Xhafer: she's like, bill, you were

so close to hitting this, but now

727

Laura: mom and dad won't be happy.

728

Xhafer: mom and dad are gonna

be fighting for a little bit.

729

Laura: Yeah, they did fight.

730

I feel like the beginning of, was

it the beginning of season two or

731

at some point they were fighting for

732

Xhafer: Oh, they had a coup.

733

Yeah, that was on, that was on

Lee's list of shit we've forgiven.

734

Was Adama's coup?

735

Laura: Yep.

736

I just hope he doesn't try to coup again.

737

That seems like a bad idea

738

Xhafer: I don't know that this

show would have that happen.

739

Like you, you've been to

that well, like you're gonna

740

Laura: Right.

741

Xhafer: different.

742

Laura: I don't know.

743

They've been to some wells before that.

744

They've like managed to dress it up in

different clothing and so it's like,

745

ah, you didn't remember we went to this?

746

Well, but we did.

747

Xhafer: Yeah.

748

I mean, that's fair.

749

Laura: But I mean, it goes with their

theme of there's like nothing new

750

Xhafer: Yeah.

751

All this has happened before, right?

752

Laura: yeah.

753

Yeah.

754

So as long as you do it

right, there's no problem.

755

Xhafer: And this is where we have

15 minutes left of the episode.

756

Like you have, you've made it two

thirds of the way through this episode,

757

and you're like, uhoh, uh uh, shit.

758

Laura: Yeah.

759

We, we wrapped up the thing that was, we

thought the most biggest dramatic thing.

760

And there's still

761

Xhafer: yeah.

762

Oh, remember the nebula we've

been working away towards?

763

We're jumping there right now.

764

Laura: Yeah.

765

Like, okay, we finished the trial.

766

Now we gotta do that last jump right now,

767

just

768

Xhafer: they jump, Rosalyn

gets like a little ill, right?

769

She has something's going on with her,

and then the power goes out, not just

770

on Galactica, but across the fleet.

771

We see the ships drifting in space as we

cut to what would've been a commercial.

772

Laura: Okay.

773

Xhafer: We see the crew scramble as

Ty hears the music still some of the

774

religious figure types, the, the,

the ones that were coming to Baltar

775

for blessings grab him, throw a

shroud from him, and then it's like,

776

we're taking you to your new life.

777

Laura: I'm so mad.

778

Xhafer: Yeah.

779

Are you so mad that we're watching another

show that has a guy with long hair have

780

a weird sex cult in the basement again?

781

Laura: oh God.

782

Is it gonna be a sex cult?

783

Oh, oh no.

784

I mean, I guess I should have known that.

785

'cause this guy is baltar like that.

786

That's not very spoily.

787

It was all women who saved

788

Xhafer: Yeah.

789

It's all women who saved him.

790

Yep.

791

Laura: is that a, was

that a Jesus reference?

792

Weren't there three important women in

793

Xhafer: I mean, I, I don't know much

about Christianity, but I do know

794

they love a fucking Trinity, so,

795

Laura: I

796

think

797

there were like three, three women

that were like referred to at the after

798

crucifixion, going to the tomb and

799

stuff.

800

Barf barfing.

801

Specifically at Gaas and three women.

802

Um,

803

'cause

804

Xhafer: fair.

805

Laura: yeah, she was in

the, she was in the trial.

806

That lady, I don't know if you

noticed her in the audience.

807

Xhafer: in the audience.

808

Yeah.

809

She was cheering when he got not guilted.

810

Laura: Remember when I was afraid

that Deanna was going to start

811

thinking that Gaas was God,

812

Xhafer: Yeah.

813

I was having a good laugh

internally then because of

814

this.

815

Laura: little afraid that that was

true, but it, I just had it like

816

at the wrong point in time and

the wrong characters and people.

817

Xhafer: Yeah.

818

I mean, there's a reason that you failed

that quiz and everyone was all like,

819

no, you have to go give her the points.

820

Laura: It was about this,

it was about the God thing.

821

Xhafer: there was a, Laura, there

have been a number of minor weird plot

822

points that you were quite pressing

about whether or not you remember.

823

Laura: Well, I did accurately guess

the exact number of episodes till

824

we got off New Caprica, so I thought

that's why you were giving me points.

825

Xhafer: I purposely did not tell you

and have not told you exactly the thing.

826

You'll find that out when you dig

through Spoiler Town at the end of the

827

show, the exact thing it was,

because I need you to have a

828

reason to go back and read a whole

three years worth of Discord Chat.

829

Laura: Oh my God.

830

Xhafer: Rip.

831

Laura: Yeah.

832

No, I, I am pretty upset that

the season four weird gaas

833

plot is gonna be gaas is God.

834

Don't like it.

835

Don't want it.

836

No thanks.

837

Xhafer: Caprica six

Dreams of the Opera House.

838

The final five are there to tell

her that they failed the white

839

balancing exam in photography class.

840

Laura: Mm.

841

Yeah.

842

It's a shame really.

843

Xhafer: Yeah.

844

They listener, if you're, if you have

not watched this show in a long time and

845

you're just listening to us talk about

it, when they show the final five in the

846

cobol upper house, they tend to like make

them look almost angelic because they're

847

like in big white robes and they're

848

like kind of ethereal, shiny, see-through,

they're fucking with the white balance.

849

And in this particular shot, because

they're taking up like X amount

850

of the frame, maybe it's just like

modern TVs and my brightness settings

851

or something, but it was like, wow,

852

Laura: Mm-hmm.

853

Xhafer: too much.

854

Laura: Yeah.

855

Speaking of that white balance, right

before we see the um, the final five,

856

they're like up in a balcony, right?

857

So I think, I think uh, GAAS and

six and Hera are on the stage.

858

I think it's Gais as well at this point.

859

Right.

860

Okay.

861

And there's like six draperies that

also look white, and I was like, Hmm.

862

I feel like that's probably a

symbolism, but I don't know what it is.

863

It, I was like, six is here.

864

That's the only thing

I can think of is like.

865

She is six.

866

Ha ha.

867

But

868

Xhafer: I mean, six drapes

look good on a stage.

869

It's like the right amount

to cover that space.

870

Laura: I guess it could

just be as simple as that

871

Xhafer: I mean, there's five

spaces in between six things,

872

Laura: Hmm.

873

That's true.

874

Mm-hmm.

875

Yeah.

876

Xhafer: or maybe it's a way

of them telling you that

877

there's a secret Sixth Island.

878

Who knows?

879

Laura: Mm.

880

I like it.

881

I like it.

882

Xhafer: said maybe,

883

Laura: Yeah.

884

We don't know if they really see them,

885

Xhafer: yeah.

886

Laura: or um, six.

887

Her

888

and Gaas.

889

Not that

890

Xhafer: know, but you, you don't

know if they, if, if Caprica

891

six knows the identities here.

892

Laura: Oh, and here's the other

thing, is Gais really there?

893

Xhafer: So that's the thing is

Gais never comments on being in

894

the Opera house with everyone else.

895

Laura: Yeah.

896

He

897

Xhafer: We never, We

just, we don't hear it.

898

You know, no one goes to check on him.

899

Rosalyn doesn't see him at the end

and could be like, Hey, were you

900

in the fucking opera house with us?

901

No one checks.

902

Laura: Mm-hmm.

903

Xhafer: So that's kind of weird

and kind of up in the air.

904

Laura: Yeah.

905

It seems like a thing that he would have

a hard time like keeping quiet if we were

906

anywhere nearby at that time, but, Hmm.

907

Xhafer: after this, the song

really starts to pick up as Tyrell,

908

Ty, Anders and Tory are drawn

together when they see each other.

909

Material's all, like, that's how it is.

910

A switch just flips.

911

You know, they, they like, they

walk in and Ty's immediately

912

like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

913

40 years in the fleet, two wars.

914

Fuck this.

915

Laura: And Ellen also Ellen.

916

I, I, man, I, I didn't want it to

be Ty 'cause I wanted to be right

917

about more silences than this, but I

was like, man, I guess I was right.

918

'cause silence just

don't know how to love.

919

Right.

920

And he and you el I'm

sure had a hard time with

921

Xhafer: Yeah.

922

Laura: so.

923

Xhafer: They did also like being

a silent and killing your wife

924

for being a silent collaborator.

925

Ouch.

926

Laura: Oh no.

927

Oh no.

928

Xhafer: Yeah.

929

Mm

930

Laura: Oh, that seems like

it could be a problem.

931

He, he barely mentioned

it now, but, uh hmm.

932

so this is the PA spot where I wanna ask a

933

question.

934

We've all figured it out.

935

We're all hearing the same song.

936

Our little switch has flipped,

but the fifth one has not.

937

Or has the fifth one always

known or, I don't know.

938

I dunno.

939

Xhafer: Their, their

absence is conspicuous.

940

That is not an accident.

941

Laura: yeah, I bet the four of them

are gonna be wondering about that.

942

Xhafer: They might know.

943

Laura: I,

944

Xhafer: We don't really get a

lot of time for them to talk.

945

Laura: does everybody in the fleet

know that there are 12 models?

946

I cannot remember if we've

947

discussed

948

Xhafer: don't think

that's public knowledge.

949

I think that's like an Adama, Roslyn,

like maybe Ty knows Ty might have a

950

security clearance for that, but I

don't think like Captain Kelly third

951

in command of the ship knows that.

952

Laura: Yeah.

953

Xhafer: I don't think Gada knows that.

954

Laura: Mm-hmm.

955

Okay.

956

Yeah, so interesting that we do

have another human cy hybrid baby

957

out there with the magic blurred,

958

but

959

Xhafer: blurred.

960

Laura: somehow dot coddle hasn't noticed.

961

Xhafer: Yeah.

962

That's weird.

963

Laura: Mm-hmm.

964

weird.

965

Xhafer: Yeah.

966

Laura: I mean, my babies were blood

typed as soon as they were born.

967

Like, but the doctors would've noticed

if they had none of those allele things.

968

So do we just not do that?

969

Do we just not blood type babies?

970

There's a very good reason that

they do it the second that they're

971

Xhafer: Yeah.

972

It's, it's, it's very important

to be aware of you know.

973

Laura: Huh.

974

Xhafer: Yeah.

975

So Saul's, I like fucking very upset.

976

Sam is all like, Hey, things

weren't great for me either.

977

Like, I did stuff yeah.

978

Laura: I did that whole resistance

979

Xhafer: Yeah, the resistance thing

we did that, I guess we did together.

980

So maybe you've got more stuff than me,

but, but I, I, I, I, I'm not happy either.

981

And then Tyrell finally says the C word

982

Laura: hang on.

983

Oh, okay.

984

Yeah, like nobody said

the silent word yet.

985

Um, but also I think he was

thinking about the original caprica

986

resistance too, like all of that.

987

Like leading.

988

Yeah.

989

I mean, maybe there's a

reason you were so good at it.

990

Xhafer: Mm.

991

Laura: Tyre is a silent.

992

Xhafer: Yeah.

993

Laura: Hmm.

994

I don't know how I feel about it.

995

I kinda liked him as a stupid human man.

996

Xhafer: I mean, I went on record in like

episode two of saying that Tyrell's one

997

of my favorite characters on this show.

998

Laura: Mm-hmm.

999

Mm-hmm.

00:44:36,624 --> 00:44:36,924

Xhafer: then.

00:44:38,394 --> 00:44:38,904

So

00:44:39,024 --> 00:44:39,354

Laura: Yeah.

00:44:40,314 --> 00:44:41,304

What does that say about you?

00:44:41,424 --> 00:44:41,904

Affair?

00:44:41,904 --> 00:44:42,864

Are you a silent?

00:44:47,192 --> 00:44:48,152

Xhafer: Uh, but it's important.

00:44:48,152 --> 00:44:52,412

Tiro finally says cylon, and the second he

says, Cy power comes back onto the ship.

00:44:52,922 --> 00:44:57,242

And not just the ship, the whole

fleet, but also the second he says

00:44:57,242 --> 00:44:59,462

cylon, a silent fleet jumps in.

00:45:00,209 --> 00:45:04,019

Laura: Conspicuously silent

through most of this is Miss Tory.

00:45:04,619 --> 00:45:06,719

Xhafer: It's because she doesn't

have any character development.

00:45:06,899 --> 00:45:08,219

To have anything to say.

00:45:10,349 --> 00:45:12,329

I was on Caprica one.

00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:13,620

I don't know why.

00:45:13,620 --> 00:45:15,090

That's my Tory impression.

00:45:15,953 --> 00:45:20,068

Laura: I have a feeling that if, if

any of our sirens are gonna break

00:45:20,068 --> 00:45:23,248

bad now, like, 'cause obviously

they've been like working towards it.

00:45:23,248 --> 00:45:24,993

They were sleepers, they

thought they were humans.

00:45:24,993 --> 00:45:25,318

They were working towards

00:45:26,463 --> 00:45:27,073

something.

00:45:27,808 --> 00:45:28,438

Xhafer: Big goals.

00:45:28,453 --> 00:45:29,623

Laura: anybody's gonna break bad.

00:45:29,710 --> 00:45:31,420

Uh, First I'm gonna guess Tori.

00:45:32,097 --> 00:45:32,397

Yeah.

00:45:33,717 --> 00:45:36,657

A 'cause it's easier 'cause

we don't know her as well, so

00:45:36,657 --> 00:45:37,857

it's like easier for the rider.

00:45:38,491 --> 00:45:38,761

But

00:45:39,217 --> 00:45:39,667

Yeah,

00:45:40,296 --> 00:45:43,086

Saul could accidentally break bad I think.

00:45:43,481 --> 00:45:46,026

'cause like he makes a

lot of goof him ups, MUPS.

00:45:46,511 --> 00:45:46,931

Xhafer: he do.

00:45:49,991 --> 00:45:55,031

So sail fleet jumps in and the to was

all like emergency, FTL, jump, and he

00:45:55,036 --> 00:45:57,341

was all like, bro, the power was out.

00:45:57,341 --> 00:45:59,351

It's gonna take 20 minutes.

00:46:00,086 --> 00:46:00,896

Laura: Yeah.

00:46:01,316 --> 00:46:05,066

Maybe not for Galactica was what

I was, I was feeling like he was

00:46:05,066 --> 00:46:06,536

like, the fleet cannot do this.

00:46:06,536 --> 00:46:10,496

Like those other ships that are not like

designed to spin up at military speed,

00:46:10,766 --> 00:46:11,156

can't do

00:46:11,156 --> 00:46:11,336

it.

00:46:11,441 --> 00:46:12,041

Xhafer: They're fucked.

00:46:12,716 --> 00:46:14,006

Laura: So we can't leave them here

00:46:14,216 --> 00:46:14,576

like.

00:46:15,926 --> 00:46:16,346

Xhafer: Back

00:46:16,346 --> 00:46:19,976

In the room with Cys, Ty is all

like, the ship is under attack.

00:46:20,066 --> 00:46:22,736

We do our jobs and we'll

figure this out in season four.

00:46:25,279 --> 00:46:27,409

Laura: I mean, good

leadership instincts, Ty.

00:46:27,409 --> 00:46:28,009

Yeah

00:46:28,489 --> 00:46:31,399

Xhafer: and they just turn up

that bear McCrery and let it play.

00:46:32,209 --> 00:46:34,759

Adamo orders the nukes to be readied.

00:46:35,329 --> 00:46:40,219

Lee sees pilots run past and runs and

goes and grabs a flight suit to join them.

00:46:41,479 --> 00:46:46,969

Ty and Tory affirm their allegiances to

the admiral and President, respectively.

00:46:47,779 --> 00:46:52,309

Laura: but again, there's like a

look between like on Tori's face,

00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:55,939

like the way she says it isn't as

convincing as the way Ty says it.

00:46:56,509 --> 00:47:00,464

And then he kinda looks

at her and I'm like, uhoh?

00:47:04,092 --> 00:47:04,662

Yeah.

00:47:05,007 --> 00:47:05,127

Hmm.

00:47:05,727 --> 00:47:09,957

Xhafer: Lee gets an unknown greatest

contact, so he goes to check it out and

00:47:09,957 --> 00:47:12,267

it's like something's flying around him.

00:47:12,267 --> 00:47:15,621

It felt a lot like the uh, thing with

00:47:15,621 --> 00:47:17,031

Kara in the Maelstrom.

00:47:17,331 --> 00:47:17,931

Laura: Raider.

00:47:18,021 --> 00:47:18,561

Yeah.

00:47:18,651 --> 00:47:24,231

Xhafer: Raider not an accident and

we see that it is Starbuck who is in

00:47:24,231 --> 00:47:29,661

a, I don't know if you caught this

brand spanking new Mark two Viper

00:47:30,093 --> 00:47:33,153

Laura: I didn't, I guess I

noticed it was very clean.

00:47:33,873 --> 00:47:35,973

Xhafer: shiny brand new.

00:47:36,183 --> 00:47:38,613

Does not have a call sign sticker on it.

00:47:39,333 --> 00:47:44,133

It is like the newest

80-year-old machine in history.

00:47:44,784 --> 00:47:45,714

Laura: Yeah.

00:47:46,104 --> 00:47:46,734

Hmm.

00:47:47,536 --> 00:47:47,806

Yeah.

00:47:47,806 --> 00:47:49,876

And she tells him not to worry.

00:47:49,996 --> 00:47:51,226

It is gonna be okay.

00:47:51,886 --> 00:47:54,016

She has been to Earth

and she knows how to get

00:47:54,166 --> 00:47:54,466

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:47:54,466 --> 00:47:56,986

She is not just knows the way to earth.

00:47:57,196 --> 00:47:58,936

She has been to Earth.

00:48:00,316 --> 00:48:00,676

Right.

00:48:01,366 --> 00:48:04,996

She will show them the way, and this

is where we zoom out of our nebula,

00:48:05,986 --> 00:48:12,406

out to our galaxy, the Milky Way in

general, and then zoom back in and we

00:48:12,406 --> 00:48:20,326

see Earth, our Earth, Florida dick and

all like it is clearly North America.

00:48:20,866 --> 00:48:21,856

This be Earth.

00:48:22,309 --> 00:48:24,079

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:24,439

Yeah.

00:48:25,669 --> 00:48:26,209

Wow.

00:48:28,723 --> 00:48:29,203

Xhafer: That's it.

00:48:29,383 --> 00:48:31,783

Laura: I'm not sure that's the episode.

00:48:32,233 --> 00:48:36,523

I'm not sure if I'm doing

too much mental legwork.

00:48:37,183 --> 00:48:38,893

Xhafer: I mean, you did

just watch the episode, so

00:48:39,763 --> 00:48:42,913

Laura: Yeah, so lots of

mental legwork just happening.

00:48:44,032 --> 00:48:49,792

The song is clearly a song

in our earth existence.

00:48:50,332 --> 00:48:52,192

Are they just borrowing

a song for funsies?

00:48:53,707 --> 00:49:00,483

Or is the song meant to imply that

likes God or whoever made these?

00:49:00,573 --> 00:49:02,253

The 12 models

00:49:02,493 --> 00:49:03,123

Xhafer: Bob Dylan?

00:49:05,733 --> 00:49:06,393

Laura: is Bob

00:49:06,453 --> 00:49:06,963

Xhafer: silent.

00:49:06,963 --> 00:49:08,283

God is Bob Dylan.

00:49:10,413 --> 00:49:13,773

Laura: Oh, I was gonna say is from

Earth, which presumably Bob Dylan is so,

00:49:17,758 --> 00:49:20,048

Xhafer: Hold on, I'm gonna

go rename spoiler chat that

00:49:22,443 --> 00:49:24,393

Laura: presumably Bob Dylan is from birth

00:49:28,098 --> 00:49:28,318

Xhafer: uh,

00:49:28,628 --> 00:49:29,348

Laura: huh?

00:49:29,353 --> 00:49:29,543

Yeah.

00:49:29,563 --> 00:49:31,538

I'm like, am I just

reading too far into it?

00:49:31,538 --> 00:49:36,398

Is it just like, we like this song,

it's a fun song Or like, 'cause

00:49:36,398 --> 00:49:38,258

Silent God's been talked about a bit.

00:49:38,318 --> 00:49:38,468

You

00:49:38,693 --> 00:49:40,613

Xhafer: I feel like I

can't answer this question.

00:49:40,928 --> 00:49:42,578

Laura: I know you can't

answer this question.

00:49:42,758 --> 00:49:43,538

It's okay,

00:49:45,593 --> 00:49:47,063

Xhafer: I want to answer this question.

00:49:48,578 --> 00:49:50,708

Laura: but you can't answer this question.

00:49:50,768 --> 00:49:51,278

I know.

00:49:52,193 --> 00:49:52,673

I know.

00:49:53,213 --> 00:49:56,753

So I'm like, eh, am I gonna go off

on a little rabbit hole down there?

00:49:56,753 --> 00:49:58,493

Oh, way wrong direction.

00:49:58,733 --> 00:49:58,853

It's

00:49:58,853 --> 00:49:59,393

fine if I

00:49:59,573 --> 00:50:00,533

Xhafer: I'll, say this.

00:50:00,653 --> 00:50:03,473

Um, there might be something more to it.

00:50:03,833 --> 00:50:08,273

There might not be, but one of the

themes is all of this has happened

00:50:08,273 --> 00:50:09,833

before and all of this will happen again.

00:50:10,523 --> 00:50:10,793

Laura: Mm,

00:50:11,243 --> 00:50:19,253

Xhafer: And with that, things coming

back or away, like, you know, we don't

00:50:19,253 --> 00:50:21,173

really know what, what year it is.

00:50:21,988 --> 00:50:22,408

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:50:22,463 --> 00:50:22,823

Xhafer: Right?

00:50:22,823 --> 00:50:24,953

That's, that's up for debate right now.

00:50:25,403 --> 00:50:29,603

You know, 'cause I mean, if, if

they land on earth, they get to

00:50:29,603 --> 00:50:31,133

00:50:31,763 --> 00:50:33,323

Just like the original Battle star.

00:50:35,243 --> 00:50:37,343

Laura: I just, I just don't

think that's gonna happen.

00:50:37,343 --> 00:50:38,603

I just think it's not that.

00:50:40,553 --> 00:50:43,013

Maybe, maybe, maybe I'm

wrong, maybe I'm wrong,

00:50:43,103 --> 00:50:43,403

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:50:43,853 --> 00:50:44,333

Um,

00:50:44,483 --> 00:50:44,843

Laura: but

00:50:45,563 --> 00:50:46,013

Xhafer: but you

00:50:46,073 --> 00:50:46,193

Laura: it'd

00:50:46,433 --> 00:50:46,883

Xhafer: like,

00:50:46,973 --> 00:50:47,243

Laura: weird.

00:50:48,323 --> 00:50:51,233

Xhafer: it, it, all of, all of this

happened before all this happened.

00:50:51,233 --> 00:50:54,993

Begin all of this happening

at the same time, kind of

00:50:55,083 --> 00:50:57,723

tangentially related, you know, so

00:50:57,963 --> 00:50:58,383

Laura: mm-hmm.

00:50:59,193 --> 00:51:01,713

Xhafer: it could just, it could

just be a cosmic coincidence,

00:51:02,343 --> 00:51:02,763

Laura: Mm-hmm.

00:51:03,513 --> 00:51:04,293

Xhafer: but it might not be.

00:51:05,220 --> 00:51:08,190

Laura: In my super secret six si ammo.

00:51:08,940 --> 00:51:09,240

I feel

00:51:09,255 --> 00:51:11,595

Xhafer: so you're saying super

secret Six Island is Rosalyn,

00:51:12,450 --> 00:51:12,660

Laura: uhhuh.

00:51:13,570 --> 00:51:13,690

Xhafer: I

00:51:15,075 --> 00:51:17,415

want to get a prediction

on the record for you.

00:51:18,555 --> 00:51:21,345

So you're saying Rosalyn is a

silent, but there's another one.

00:51:21,825 --> 00:51:22,635

Who's the other one?

00:51:23,730 --> 00:51:24,180

Laura: Yeah.

00:51:24,540 --> 00:51:27,420

I feel like the show really

wants me to think it's star be's.

00:51:27,435 --> 00:51:27,675

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:51:29,070 --> 00:51:30,990

Laura: The show really

wants me to think that.

00:51:31,020 --> 00:51:34,110

'cause they're like, she disappeared

now she's got a new thing.

00:51:34,545 --> 00:51:36,855

Xhafer: You saw her shit blow the fuck up.

00:51:37,457 --> 00:51:38,117

Laura: yeah.

00:51:38,162 --> 00:51:42,962

Xhafer: wasn't a like little dinky,

like the shit vanished thing.

00:51:43,442 --> 00:51:45,242

We saw it blow the fuck up.

00:51:47,162 --> 00:51:50,582

Laura: I just don't think this sh

the show is actually gonna give

00:51:50,582 --> 00:51:52,142

us the fifth silent this soon.

00:51:53,192 --> 00:51:55,172

I think the fifth silent is someone else.

00:51:55,682 --> 00:52:00,332

I think something else is gonna

happen in the next couple of episodes

00:52:00,392 --> 00:52:01,832

at the beginning of season four.

00:52:02,192 --> 00:52:04,757

That's like, oh, it's not star beast.

00:52:05,162 --> 00:52:05,432

Xhafer: Yeah.

00:52:05,642 --> 00:52:07,622

Do you have a, do you have

just throw a pick out there?

00:52:09,212 --> 00:52:11,312

Don't, don't worry about

thinking about it too much.

00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:15,155

Laura: See, I was really starting

to think Adama might be one

00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:15,610

Xhafer: Much.

00:52:15,615 --> 00:52:15,815

Yeah.

00:52:16,357 --> 00:52:20,407

So I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna give

you a little lead of conjecture here

00:52:20,977 --> 00:52:22,987

based off of things you've already said.

00:52:23,912 --> 00:52:24,332

Laura: mm-hmm.

00:52:24,562 --> 00:52:28,462

Xhafer: is, it's weird that

the fifth one isn't with them

00:52:28,462 --> 00:52:30,472

in the room hearing the music.

00:52:31,477 --> 00:52:31,747

Laura: Yeah.

00:52:32,002 --> 00:52:36,652

Xhafer: Is it possible that the fifth one

is just not on Galactica at this time?

00:52:37,377 --> 00:52:42,267

Could it be a, like Tom Zarik, perhaps

someone who's in the fleet, but

00:52:42,267 --> 00:52:43,737

we just haven't seen this episode.

00:52:43,977 --> 00:52:46,077

Someone who could have heard

the music and we just weren't

00:52:46,077 --> 00:52:47,547

around to interact with them?

00:52:48,402 --> 00:52:53,172

Laura: Yeah, I mean you've, you've told me

there's no one new and just so many, most

00:52:53,172 --> 00:52:55,242

of our main characters are on Galactica.

00:52:55,242 --> 00:52:55,722

We know

00:52:55,722 --> 00:52:56,052

that.

00:52:57,252 --> 00:53:00,132

So it would have to be like just Zurich,

00:53:01,347 --> 00:53:03,537

Xhafer: It would be, anyone

else would be difficult.

00:53:03,537 --> 00:53:05,727

It's Commander Kelly, they put him on the

00:53:05,727 --> 00:53:06,387

prison ship.

00:53:08,652 --> 00:53:08,862

Laura: Yeah.

00:53:08,982 --> 00:53:11,622

Would they put him on the prison tip or

would he just stay in the BRI forever?

00:53:11,757 --> 00:53:11,997

Xhafer: Um,

00:53:15,372 --> 00:53:15,522

Laura: Because

00:53:15,567 --> 00:53:15,957

Xhafer: back.

00:53:16,752 --> 00:53:20,862

We, we have not seen the last of

Captain Kelly, so I'll let that

00:53:20,862 --> 00:53:22,542

question work itself out later.

00:53:23,507 --> 00:53:24,822

Laura: Oh, interesting.

00:53:25,842 --> 00:53:26,802

Interesting.

00:53:28,062 --> 00:53:29,172

I was so confused.

00:53:29,172 --> 00:53:31,662

Every time Ben is like my boy,

captain Kelly, and it's like he's

00:53:31,662 --> 00:53:33,162

done literally nothing at extent.

00:53:33,162 --> 00:53:34,242

Now he's done like.

00:53:35,037 --> 00:53:37,857

You know, crimes, murders,

00:53:37,902 --> 00:53:38,322

Xhafer: Um,

00:53:39,027 --> 00:53:40,137

Laura: murder one

00:53:40,512 --> 00:53:44,562

Xhafer: I'm gonna, I'm gonna just

look at Ben at the camera right now.

00:53:45,022 --> 00:53:49,052

You know, Ben, one of one of my

best friends, you know, you know,

00:53:49,052 --> 00:53:50,702

his son, his son is my nephew.

00:53:51,662 --> 00:53:53,252

Like, we're we're, we're close, right?

00:53:53,582 --> 00:53:54,092

Like,

00:53:54,812 --> 00:53:59,282

you know, if Ben needed a kidney and

I was a donor, you know, he could ask.

00:53:59,282 --> 00:54:00,932

I don't know that I'd say

yes, but he could ask.

00:54:01,322 --> 00:54:06,472

Um, historically speaking

my family history, you don't

00:54:06,472 --> 00:54:07,552

want one of my kidneys, Ben.

00:54:07,862 --> 00:54:10,812

Anyways, sometimes you

got a bad take, Ben.

00:54:12,822 --> 00:54:15,552

And, and I think Captain

Kelly is a bad take.

00:54:16,497 --> 00:54:18,372

Laura: Well, I, I.

00:54:19,302 --> 00:54:23,952

Knowing Ben would not put it past him

to just pick like a random background

00:54:23,952 --> 00:54:29,082

character who really does not show up

or do anything and call them his boy.

00:54:29,232 --> 00:54:29,982

Xhafer: A hundred percent.

00:54:30,822 --> 00:54:31,602

A hundred percent.

00:54:31,842 --> 00:54:32,382

He doesn't

00:54:32,382 --> 00:54:32,742