This time George Charlton joins us on our journey exploring what we mean by harm reduction when it comes to alcohol and other drugs.

George is an activist, trainer, campigner and worked with people who use drugs for over 20 years. In this episode he shares about We are LUV, a project creating peer-led groups to lead on research and design of local and national services. He describes why he feels it's important we get back to a place where the people we ask first about what support should look like, is the people who use it.