Old friend Brian Marteeny stopped by the studio with every intention of having a light and topical conversation. He probably expected to talk about politics, the weather, traffic, and The Bachelor. But he forgot that this is Ramble by the River. We don't talk about politics unless we are exposing corruption at the highest level. We don't talk about the weather unless it is in reference to the impending global catastrophe. Traffic?! How about self-driving autonomous automobiles? And we just don't cover The Bachelor; it is for morons.

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Topics to enjoy:

• Jeff explains getting rear-ended twice.
• The Pacific Garbage patch clean up.
• Pet cloning and what they don’t tell you at the clinic.
• Why are they making robots so sexy?
• The recent disgusting controversy at Balenciaga.
• Brian gets rescued from a life in the system.
• Famous Jeffreys through history.

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Jeff Nesbitt: Hello and welcome.

Jeff Nesbitt: Hello, and welcome to another exciting episode of Ramble by the River. I'm your host, Jeff Nesbitt. And we've got a great show for you today. Our guests on the podcast today is an old friend of mine. Back from the ocean park elementary days, one of my first best friends, actually that wasn't arranged by my parents.

Jeff Nesbitt: Brian Marteeny Brian lives over in Oregon. He's currently working at a car dealership, slinging automobiles. He's done a lot of different jobs. He used to have a detailing business. He was very good at that. And, uh, he was, he's worked at restaurants, he's done a lot of things. He's got a very wide range of experiences and.

Jeff Nesbitt: Pedophile revelations. And this Balenciaga stuff. It's really gross. If you haven't. Looked into that at all. Or heard about that. I'm not surprised it's not on the news. But, um, it's happening and you'll hear all about it in this episode. So. Yeah, check that out. It's coming up. Um, just a few minutes.

Jeff Nesbitt: So, yeah, we got a great show coming up for you. So, yeah, lots to look forward to in this episode. But first. A word from our sponsors.

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Jeff Nesbitt: All right. Before we get going. I wanted to.

Jeff Nesbitt: Before we get going on the show. I wanted to do a little unboxing. I see people doing these on YouTube all the time, and it looks like a lot of fun. So I'm going to do one for you today.

Jeff Nesbitt: The product. The product that we will be unboxing is called nose. Slap. That's right. No slap.

Jeff Nesbitt: And here it is.

Jeff Nesbitt: It's smelling salts.

Jeff Nesbitt: I got them online. Ooh, I can already smell it. Just in the bag.

Jeff Nesbitt: I'm here to try it.

Jeff Nesbitt: No slap.

Jeff Nesbitt: The wake-up stick smelling salts infused within with essential oils. Smelling salts infused with essential oils.

Jeff Nesbitt: I'm down. You know me. Don't tempt me with a good time.

Jeff Nesbitt: I'm kind of nervous.

Jeff Nesbitt: That's nothing.

Jeff Nesbitt: What the fuck. That's not a slap.

Jeff Nesbitt: Okay directions. At a half a capful. 2 1 8 teaspoon of water shake, bottle sideways, and then tap the bottom of the bottle to allow the contents to settle. To the bottom. Wait a few minutes, squeeze the sides and open the lid slowly, hold six inches under the nose to reactivate. Add a little water.

Jeff Nesbitt: Okay. So I did it wrong. I just put it up to my nose and smelled the raw ingredients. That's not going to do anything.

Jeff Nesbitt: I'm back and I got the water.

Jeff Nesbitt: All right. I got the water bottle. So now.

Jeff Nesbitt: That was close.

Jeff Nesbitt: Just about spill the water bottle on my computer. There's the water.

Jeff Nesbitt: And I had how much.

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, so let's add water to this little tube. I got it.

Jeff Nesbitt: Now I shake.

Jeff Nesbitt: It's leaking.

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, my God. Okay. Yeah.

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, that took my breath away a little bit. This smells really bad. Just like ammonia.

Jeff Nesbitt: I don't like this. It's leaky. I don't like this. Get it away from me.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, no fuck that.

Jeff Nesbitt: No more smelling salts. This is not the Joe Rogan experience. That was gross. It smells like piss.

Jeff Nesbitt: Okay, well, that didn't really work out as I expected.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah.

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Jeff Nesbitt: Without further ado, please. Welcome.

Jeff Nesbitt: Without further ado. Please give it up for my friend.

Jeff Nesbitt: He's intelligent. He's handsome. He is stirring, but never shaken. Please give it up for Brian Marteeny Without further ado, please give it up for my friend of over 20 years. He may be stirring. But he's never shaken. Please give it up for Brian Marteeny My guests today. It's a friend of mine for over 20 years.

Jeff Nesbitt: Please welcome. The stirring, but never shaken. Brian Marteeny

Brian Marteeny: All right. That's, that's not a very nice thing to say.

Jeff Nesbitt: I, I agree. Don't bring it to my house again or my podcast. Come on. We know. I wouldn't do that. Uh, I know. All right. Um, here we go.

Jeff Nesbitt: I'll start it now. Click

Jeff Nesbitt: all right. Recorder's going right.

Brian Marteeny: I like this setup. Seems a little less formal.

Jeff Nesbitt: the desk took up a lot of space and it was space. I didn't really have Also got smaller chairs. Where do you get the chairs at? Oh, online. They're shitty chairs. They feel sturdy. They're, they're better than I expected for a hundred bucks a piece. But they're not the best

Brian Marteeny: chairs. Are chairs expensive?

Jeff Nesbitt: I don't.

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh fuck. Yeah, man. You're not in the chair market, huh? No, not really. It's bad

Brian Marteeny: out there. I looked at the couch burning for a while.

Brian Marteeny: Well, I was following this guy and he was selling couches and he was storing them in a, a storage unit and just buying them, flipping couches and cleaning them.

Brian Marteeny: And he's

Jeff Nesbitt: what climate? What climate? Yeah. What kind of climate?

Brian Marteeny: I don't know. All types of climates.

Jeff Nesbitt: Not temperate.

Brian Marteeny: Rainy climbing.

Jeff Nesbitt: Nah, nah, man. Not temperate. You're not storing couches? I think it was in Nevada. Okay, that's what I thought. That's Nevada. Somewhere around there. Well, this is more of a local podcast.

Jeff Nesbitt: Uh, business ideas, things like that. Applicable to our listeners, please.

Brian Marteeny: I mean, you could do it on, if you could be more lucrative.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. You might as well just go around storing old cars from the Pacific Northwest. That shit's destroyed.

Brian Marteeny: I think it's a rust that destroys it.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean.

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, well, couches don't rust. But they do mold and they do get mothy and broken down moth.

Brian Marteeny: Moth like mothballs. Did you know those cause cancer?

Jeff Nesbitt: Really? Hella cancer. I didn't know that.

It is also produced when burning tobacco and wood. So keep that in mind, if you are a smoker of tobacco or if you have a wood burning fireplace in your home

Jeff Nesbitt: yeah. Don't be moth in your shit. I never even thought that seemed worth it. I'm not, I've never in my life been bothered enough by moths to seek out a solution.

Jeff Nesbitt: Do they eat your clothes?

Brian Marteeny: No, I don't have a moth problem when I,

Jeff Nesbitt: what the fuck? Whose clothes are they eating? .

Brian Marteeny: I had a moth when I was a kid. A pet moth? Oh, kind of. I mean, it was one of those caterpillars. They, they was in a cocoon that you can buy from the pet store. Oh, so you legit

Jeff Nesbitt: had a pet

Brian Marteeny: moth? Yeah, and I thought it was gonna be a butterfly.

Brian Marteeny: Oh, that's a moth. That sucks. That was

Jeff Nesbitt: I think you got taken by one of the, the moth lookalikes. It could have been a butterfly. Just not one of the pretty ones. Not like a, you know,

Jeff Nesbitt: no, I feel bad.

Brian Marteeny: Oh yeah. I thought it was a

Jeff Nesbitt: moth and it was a butterfly. Who knows? I'm no butterfly Allergi. You sound, sound like you know a little bit about Well, I've done a little research and I know a few entomologists.

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, there we go. give yourself more garden. Yeah, dude, we, we , we actually had a butterfly, Elsa and I captured a butterfly and I think actually we pulled it out of a spider's web. It was, uh, before the spider could get a lot of it. We thought so, but we were pretty rough with it. It did die and, uh,

Jeff Nesbitt: It started to seem like a bookmark or a, you know, like a, it just, there piece of tissue paper, just like something that you'd see on the wall and it's just there. Yeah. Have tissue paper on the wall. Any, I'm just saying it didn't, it didn't seem animate. Yeah, it, it, I forgot that it was biological. I was just starting to think of it as like a decoration, cuz they're pretty, and this was like a swallow tail.

Jeff Nesbitt: It was a good looking butterfly. And so one day we're doing a little light microscopy, just a little light microscopy, a little hobbyist microscopy. And uh, we pull out the microscope. We're like looking around for shit to look at that we think might look cool, blown up and you know, we look at our hair and it'll spit samples and all this stuff, the normal stuff you do.

Jeff Nesbitt: Probably like picking my teeth with it. Who knows? not Neville, not uh, engaging in proper lab protocols for handling a dead animal basically. And cuz that's what it is. It's a dead animal. Yeah. Being reckless. Yeah. And seemed fine and I would've done it again a hundred times, but until I put that little bit under the microscope and took a peek at what was on it, it was absolutely covered with invisible bugs that I could not see with my naked eye at all.

Jeff Nesbitt: But they were everywhere, thousands of them. Oh, that's, I don't know if they were Weis or Mites or, yeah, just flan 'em around in your house. Just flinging 'em around everywhere. Probably all over my children. Does it make you feel like you got a itch? Dude, I haven't been able, I have not been able to touch a butterfly since.

Jeff Nesbitt: That gives me a good visual.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Just butterfly spores. Pow powow, like little tiny fireworks ceps mushrooms. Do you know about those? I don't. It's a parasitic fungus. Okay. It, it goes into a bug and it infects the bug's brain and it rewires it to say, Hey, climb a little bitch ass the top of that tree.

Jeff Nesbitt: I'm gonna explode out your face. Really? Yeah. And then it does. Where do you find those at? You buy 'em on the internet. Oh, okay. In fact, I know that for a fact because, so one of the many, many, many uses of corsets mushroom is that it makes your dick nice and hard. And, uh, the Chinese have known this forever.

Jeff Nesbitt: Okay. So, uh, yeah, it's for other things as well. But I bought some on accident on my work credit card one time . Just

Brian Marteeny: little accident. Just a little.

Jeff Nesbitt: This was a decade ago too. So this is before it was like well known for other things and the first thing that came up when you Googled it was, you know, Chinese dick hardener.

Jeff Nesbitt: And, uh, it's getting rock solid. Yeah. And I got a little note from the office saying, Not on work time. Come on, get this on your own credit card. So yeah, we've been buying it with my own money ever since. Yeah.

Brian Marteeny: What low key fly the radar.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Man. Mushrooms, by the way, are fucking dead already.

Malcom: Jeff is referring to Chanterelle mushrooms in the next section. He saw plenty of mushrooms during his hike, just not any of the type that he was looking for. I just wanted to clarify so as not to confuse anyone into thinking that there has been some kind of large-scale mycological collapse. Its all good.

Jeff Nesbitt: Really? Yeah. Oh, I'm glad I, I went out and looked at, I hiked three miles through all of my hottest spots that I thought would be at least have some, some action, but nothing, I didn't see a single mushroom. I was out there for a while. And

Brian Marteeny: how, how much further in the season

Jeff Nesbitt: do they usually last? Usually around now, but I thought since, since my patches didn't start until so late that it would be, that I would have more time.

Jeff Nesbitt: I just thought the weather right now, it's not that cold. It hasn't been freezing consistently. Yeah. And it has, even when it does, there's little pockets and micro climates where mushrooms can still grow, where they just, like, it's shielded from the wind or it's got, you know what I mean? Just like some areas where I feel like it's been pretty cold over there, I guess.

Jeff Nesbitt: Must have been. Um, I mean, I was

Brian Marteeny: washing the car and the, so bubbles froze by the time I got back outside. Yeah. In

Jeff Nesbitt: I only picked two or three times this whole season that where I actually had a successful hall and that was it. And it was really good on those days, but it was very limited. Very limited. But you went other times

Brian Marteeny: that just didn't get as much.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, I went, I went, I mean I, I went looking, I basically, I just checked my spots from like July until they start hitting.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. And like once or once or twice a month even. But as much as like every couple days when the, especially when the weather's a little rainy and um, it, the not too hot and colder feels just right. It, it depends from the last longer or it needs to be not frozen. Cuz when they freeze, they just turn into mush.

Jeff Nesbitt: And it's not like the animals ate 'em, they just literally melted. It's so weird that, uh, and I still have ba some from that same trip in my fridge that are just fine. That's Wild. It is Wild. They decomposed like that so quickly. Yeah. It's like the earth loves to eat mushrooms and mushrooms love to eat the earth.

Jeff Nesbitt: It's

Brian Marteeny: pretty lush over there

Jeff Nesbitt: where you're checking them. Oh hell yeah. Yeah. We're talking moss. Sink up to your ankles deep in it. Just that real cushy stuff. That real cushy stuff. Yeah.

Brian Marteeny: jumping that

Jeff Nesbitt: barefoot. Oh man. I a lot of twiss maybe with some soft of TWIs. A lot of needles too. Not, not the kind with the orange tips that we find out here on the river, but, um, pine needles.

Brian Marteeny: I think I misuse pine needles the other day. Oh really? Yeah. Uh, we trimmed the tree before we brought it inside, so we had like, I don't know, some Yay.

Brian Marteeny: Hey. Long, about 10 of them. Speaking

Jeff Nesbitt: of, yay. Let's come back to him. Yeah. Cuz he's been going through some shit. Yeah, he has. Poor guy. Continue. All right. Uh, unless that was the end of

Brian Marteeny: the bit. No, that was, that was the beginning of the bit. Okay.

Jeff Nesbitt: Go ahead and finish the bit.

Jeff Nesbitt: I'm, I'm ready

Brian Marteeny: for it. All right. So I've got pot outside the door. This got a raspberry plant in it and I thought I'd just stick the other tree limbs inside of it cause it'd be face and it looked right. Well it's a Wild tree. We didn't get it from a just gonna buy a tree. So we went out and cut it down. I d knows how fucking pokey those fuckers are.

Brian Marteeny: Oh yeah. So, I mean, and it kind of fell over. You gotta reach for the door handle. Getting attacked by this tree you thought was just a simple little decoration.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, that's, that's the one. Well, I figured

Brian Marteeny: it'd be a good deterrent for the cat too. It is. Ah, no. No. Oh, really? Does she chew on it? No, he likes it. He just fucking knocks down every single ornament. They

Jeff Nesbitt: do taste delicious. You ever have a beer made outta spruce tips? I haven't. It's good. It's good. It's kind of a, like a holiday treat.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. I think I would like to think. Seems seasonal. Yeah. Do you drink seasonally? You have a, any of them butter rums? I don't, me either.

Brian Marteeny: I don't think I have any alcohol in my house right now.

Jeff Nesbitt: Alcohol is, uh, you know, it's not the greatest thing for you. It doesn't help your life all that much. Maybe unless you need bad things to happen, then it'll help with that.

Jeff Nesbitt: It does, it tastes like it can if again, it's all just like how you frame it. It's relative. Yeah. But it, some of it really does taste good. It tastes

Brian Marteeny: interesting. Like when you take your first sip of beer when you're a kid and it just tastes like

Jeff Nesbitt: absolute dirt. Yeah. It's like this juice had gone bad. Yeah.

Jeff Nesbitt: It's no good. It still tastes bad most of the time to me, especially if I taste one of those beers. If I have a Budweiser or a Michel Lobe, particular Michelob, ultra Crispy , it's disgusting. And it, and it takes me right back to that first taste. Cuz that's what my parents drink. That's what everyone's parents drank back then.

Jeff Nesbitt: But if I have like a, a craft beer that, like an IPA one that, that I actually like. It tastes pretty good. Tastes really good. Do you like ciders? Yeah. Yeah, I do. Who doesn't?

Brian Marteeny: There's a lot of people that don't like those.

Jeff Nesbitt: Like they think that they're somehow less, um, masculine maybe, or less, uh, authentic than a beer or something like that. You know, there's those people who need to feel like they're, uh, what they do is little extra special. You know? They need to like people who judge you for listening to the Spice Girls, which is most people.

Jeff Nesbitt: That's a, that's a big example. I went, I really went for it on that example because most people, the Spice Girls, no, but if I did, I would experience a lot of judgment and I did like the Spice Girls in there heyday who didn. I actually remember talking about it with you in elementary school. You were a baby Spice man, if I recall.

Jeff Nesbitt: I don't, I don't remember

Brian Marteeny: that.

Jeff Nesbitt: Uh, yeah, she was, I'll tell you what you want, what you really, really want. Yeah, she did.

Brian Marteeny: Uh, probably cuz that movie Toy Soldiers.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, that right? Yep. That's the one starts. And he was like extremely violent. Yeah, it was pretty funny. uh, I don't remember any of the actual actors in that movie. Just Tommy Lee Jones, the toy and he kicked ass. I don't remember. Oh, David Cross was in that movie. Yep. I just had a, I just pictured him.

Jeff Nesbitt: That's where I first learned the term emp Electromagnetic Pulse. And I've gone back to that clip every time it's come up in my entire life. He was in that. Um, I'm, I'm gonna play the clip right now. We should.

Electromagnetic pulse.

Nuclear warhead.

Jeff Nesbitt:

Jeff Nesbitt: That was a great clip. I love that clip. Yeah. Thank you Dave Cross for making me look smart to at least seven or eight people in the last 15 years worth every bit of thought energy.

Jeff Nesbitt: Speaking of thought energy, let's get to this podcast. All right. I got a list. And, um, mostly I'm, I'm just enjoying chatting. I don't feel like being real, real strict about the list. Uh, so if you have any kind of, uh, tangents and just random things that you feel like talking about, do it. Okay. Also, I'll, I gotta fill, I gotta fill this two hours, so I will, I will just talk and talk and talk until you come up with something to talk about.

Jeff Nesbitt: Hylton. Only if you're talking too much. I'll just put up one finger, Jeff. There go. But I don't do that for most people. Okay. . Most people don't talk, too much. They talk not enough. I, I frequently listening to it, I'm like, fuck, I'm talking so much. But I mean, it's your podcast. It is. It is. And yeah. Who, it's really just like, whatever.

Jeff Nesbitt: I don't know. Let's see what we got. What do we got? Oh, I got rear-ended today. Oh. I'm a little shooken up. How's your neck shaken up? Shooken up. I'm shooken up. That doesn't sound right at all. I'm shaken up. Shake and bake. I don't know, but it, either way I'm shook from it.

Jeff Nesbitt: I love it. It tows 7,000 pounds. It, it really is tough. , it tows as much as a, a full size truck would have 15 years ago. Yeah. They're good trucks. Yeah. Um, not as durable as a truck would've been. When we were kids, I was like, fucking door, like the door. Uh, I basically destroyed where my elbows sit and on both sides.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yep. It sucks. And just a quick 150,000 miles of sitting and it's just, just You bought a brand new Yeah. Yeah. Um, what was I talking about? Oh, I got rear-ended. Yeah. The truck got smashed. . So not that bad though. I have a big, two inch ball hitch on the back of it. Yeah. And that pretty much just like stiff arms.

Brian Marteeny: um, just follow into close.

Jeff Nesbitt: Did you break check him? No, I didn't even see it coming. I was, I was.

Jeff Nesbitt: we should be looking forward anyways,

Jeff Nesbitt: I was, I was looking forward not hitting the car in front of me. Yeah, there was three cars in front of me. The three cars ahead. Somebody was turning left, but there was oncoming traffic, so we are waiting while they turned. And, I looked up, stopped and then bam, it just got hit hard, really hard and, it, , I was just glad it didn't push me into the car in front of me cause I was close to them and they also started moving right as I almost would've hit them.

Jeff Nesbitt: different scenario. Not that much different though. There was only one car ahead of me. I stopped taking turns over there. Oh yeah. These streets, Brian, let me tell you. South Bend. Yeah. South Bend. The mean streets of South Bend. And the first time it was a little old lady and she didn't have insurance.

Jeff Nesbitt: She was also driving a fucking Hyundai, which, nothing against Hyundai. They've really made some strides in the last decade. , yeah, that and. , both of them. Yeah. Yeah. Parallel strides even. Mm-hmm. . , that being said, the people who buy their cars need to learn how to fucking drive. Absolutely. Just saying, stop running into me please.

Jeff Nesbitt: Let me show you you pictures. Yeah. It was bad. oh, yeah. Just pulled off the road into a parking lot. Are you okay though? Yeah, I'm, I'm okay. I'm extremely fucking tough, Brian. You know, me just, uh, super tough. Can't hurt me. Really? I had to ask. Thank you for asking. It's good that somebody did. Finally. I've been waiting. Um, , uh, yeah. I get, I think, you know, I think just my family assumes I'm so tough that, they made sure to ask.

Jeff Nesbitt: So not even a problem. I'm glad, I'm glad for you. Thanks. But so the tricky part is I, uh, we pulled off the road, this bitch is losing it. I mean, she's fucking losing it. I can see her in my rear view mirror, , screaming at her kid or to the heavens. it was the kid's fault. Maybe the kid was, was trying to console her and she wasn't in the mood to be consoled.

Jeff Nesbitt: And so she said, shut up. Or, you know, you, you've, you're familiar with these kind of things. Uh, anyway, I don't know if that's the case or not, but she was definitely losing her shit. Yeah. And, um, I, I didn't even know at this point that there was a kid in the. We pull over, she gets out, I get out. I'm filming her because I'm like, I gotta film people these days.

Jeff Nesbitt: Why would you do that? Which a lot of people would have. Cuz she definitely was at fault. Which, because of that alone I was, I felt like I had all the power. I was, I wasn't injured. We both seemed fine. The cars, uh, my car was fine. Her car was fucking smashed. It's like, I think everything's fine for me.

Jeff Nesbitt: Really. I can be nice here. Yeah. I don't have to, I don't, I have the luxury of being able to extend kindness and mercy to this person cuz I have been that little kid and I fucking hated it. Was she young? Yeah, she was like five or six and, um, cute little girl. The driver? No, the kid. the driver was honestly, uh, inconsequential to me.

Jeff Nesbitt: Probably not. And I don't. It, it's, my car's barely bent, the bumper's barely bent. I, I can find somebody to yank the bumper back out for me. It's not the end of the world. I don't wanna fuck up that little girl's life. I remember what it is like to be a kid and be at the mercy of circumstances that are completely outside of your control and people making choices that affect you greatly. And, uh, you have no say in the matter and you're just long for the ride. I was in that exact situation.

Jeff Nesbitt: I remember sitting in the back of my dad's Nissan Maxima waiting for him to negotiate with the people who he rammed and in the middle of Long Beach and them both being broke, people with no insurance and them just trying to negotiate it like the way you do things on the streets, like fucking cash only, like how much cash do you have?

Brian Marteeny: realize it was like that for you growing up

Jeff Nesbitt: ever. Awesome. That's great.

Brian Marteeny: I I honestly had no

Jeff Nesbitt: idea. I was very self-conscious about it. That's, that makes, uh, makes it seem like that was a waste of time and energy to care what people thought.

Jeff Nesbitt: But I cared. I cared a lot. I don't now. I really like going

Brian Marteeny: over to your house. I always had a

Jeff Nesbitt: good time. I felt like we were pretty, you were poor too, man. Uh, you, you did not have it easy. Also, your, your parents weren't around. And I immediately recognized that as a hardship. I was like, you were a hard, you were a hard kid.

Jeff Nesbitt: I'm like, you were. It

Brian Marteeny: wasn't, it wasn't that we were poor. It was

Jeff Nesbitt: poor. Is the, you were living in the same world as me. It, it, we had, I mean, we had a house. Your grandparents were old, like old school. It was Oh, big time. You, you weren't going to, I don't know. You just, I felt like you were a kindred spirit, uh, from the beginning.

Jeff Nesbitt: Like, I mean, my grandma didn't

Brian Marteeny: But it, he always cooked good food when he did that. But he was still working up until the last month he passed away. And

Jeff Nesbitt: he's an artist, right? And architect and artist. Yeah. So he was still designing houses and stuff? Yeah. Wow. That's cool. Yeah. I

Brian Marteeny: think he was working for a company out in Portland, but he'd obviously we'd be able to work out of the, uh, the office that he had at the house.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. That's.

Brian Marteeny: It was pretty cool. Uh, what was really cool is he went from the old school drafting on the board. Mm-hmm. , uh, and he taught himself AutoCAD. Oh wow. Yeah. He completely just transformed everything over and,

Jeff Nesbitt: you know, how many people of his generation, uh, just got phased out because they refused to do that and he knew that.

Jeff Nesbitt: But he was a

Brian Marteeny: really tech savvy

Brian Marteeny: He would never get my grandma the, uh, like Don Dish soap. She always just asked for the good dish. So what did you get Joy? No, it was like this shit that came in, in the

Jeff Nesbitt: big yellow with the like stripes and big round bottle. I think.

Jeff Nesbitt: So like the hourglass shape kind of. Yeah. I know the exact shit you're talking about. Yeah. Poor people. Soap . That's what I mean. Dude. Lemon Joy was a step up from that. And uh, that's, I remember when we were really young, we had that poor people's shit. I don't even think they make that anymore. Um, but then we went to Lemon Joy and that's, that's quite a bit better.

Jeff Nesbitt: But Don is like, that is just, that's the tops. You don't get better than Don. It takes just like a, a size of the, of a nickel, a squirt the size of a nickel escort the size of a nickel. Get your whole load of dishes and you'd

Brian Marteeny: go to Costco for like eight bucks. They have this giant thing.

Jeff Nesbitt: It lasts you a year.

Brian Marteeny: I caught my girlfriend using so much soap and I'd thought about saying something and I was like, no, she's doing the dishes. I'm not gonna, it's. We get it at Costco.

Jeff Nesbitt: I always say something when it's about the dishes, dude, there's a right way to do dishes and there's a wrong way and there's lots of wrong ways actually to do dishes. I, I'm happy to share my, uh, my wisdom on how to do dishes correctly. Yeah. With anybody who needs to know it. And that includes anybody who's doing them wrong in my presence.

Jeff Nesbitt: You don't need to use that much soap. Nah. You really don't. You need just the right amount. You definitely need to use enough and there is a right amount. This is a specific thing. I, I can, I can sense tension in so many households across the United States because of this. Actually most people have a, you know what, you used too much.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Slippery as fuck. Can't get that shit off. But you just keep rinsing. Yeah. And

Brian Marteeny: you just try to bounce back as best as you can.

Jeff Nesbitt: The solution to pollution is dilution. You just dilute that shit down.

Brian Marteeny: I didn't realize how thirsty I was.

Jeff Nesbitt: Gotta stay drained.

Brian Marteeny: Yep. I usually keep a shed ton of water in the car. I try to

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh God. Have you seen this thing about Valencia? I have. Do you follow Valencia? I don't. On social media or anything? No. Nope. Me either. So, , I, I saw on the, the Twitter today it was a, it's hard to repeat news stories now because they're, they're like, it's so fast. It's fast, but it's coming to me from sources all over the place.

Jeff Nesbitt: Like a bunch of tweets from different random individuals, so it's kind of

Brian Marteeny: interesting. People go to Twitter now for the news and that's Yeah.

Jeff Nesbitt: So I heard the story today. Valencia just did this ad campaign and it's pictures of their new line of, I believe handbags that look like teddy bears wearing bondage gear, like BDSM shit. Okay. Yep. Leather straps, ball Gs, you know, the drill very racy, those masks with the zipper eyes and the creepy shit.

Jeff Nesbitt: Like off of pulp fiction. Yes, exactly. Like out of that scary dungeon and pulp fiction, if you took teddy bears right from that pawn shop Yep. And cut a hole in their head and sort of zipper in and threw. Tasteful leather strap on there, and that's a handbag. And then you handed that tasteful bondage, BDSM bear handbag to a small child of maybe three or four years old, told them to look really innocent and stare into the camera creepily.

Jeff Nesbitt: It was some law that, that allowed people to produce and share kitty porn. And this was a, an ad campaign for one of these really elitist promoting fashion companies. This is the ad. Who knows what they're trying to say? I think that's fucking obvious. It's pretty gross. It's disgusting and I, I don't know what will happen of it, but it's pretty fucking gross.

Jeff Nesbitt: It's pretty fucking gross. And I, I have a, let's, I'm gonna, I'm gonna look that up. Pull that up, Jamie.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, those people are freaks, man. Yeah, they really are.

Jeff Nesbitt: So they deleted their posts like within a couple hours and released statements.

Brian Marteeny: And what statements

Jeff Nesbitt: get redacted? Let's see what the statements say. I'm sure they're right there on their main page.

Jeff Nesbitt: Uh, a little bit. Uh, I'll get, didn't really get into it. Quick, quick nutshell. Kanye West always been like saying crazy shit. Yeah, usually it's

Brian Marteeny: true. Didn't he? He says some hateful stuff about

Jeff Nesbitt: Jewish people, or wasn't that hateful? It was really more very hyper defensive. Okay. Uh, which can be taken as aggressive and, um, but a lot of the shit he said is true.

Jeff Nesbitt: Over the years, he's said lots of things that were like crazy. I, I, I, I hesitate to use that word. I don't wanna use that word because. . It's not crazy. It's really more of just like completely out of, uh, the ordinary. He's very manic. Yeah. Yeah. I think that that, that's definitely true. And that's not a crime.

Jeff Nesbitt: But he's been like not arrested, but detained and drugged. Yeah. Uh, because of that. And it looks like he was kind of taken in and done that too by a handler of some kind. This Harvey Harvey, uh, what was his name? Patak. Harvey Patak is a trainer to the Stars. He's a personal trainer in LA and he trained a whole bunch of really famous people.

Jeff Nesbitt: Or I can have you, uh, institutionalized again and put on drugs and thrust into Zombieland forever. And he even made a statement at the end. It's like, visits with the kids just won't be the same. And it's just like, who the fuck is this trainer who has this authority? Psychopath? Yeah. That sounds like a very confident threat.

Jeff Nesbitt: From a personal trainer, not big time. I think this guy's a somehow kind of handler for either the record people, whoever has the most money. Yeah. Whoever is involved with the most money. That's the person who's in charge or people or organization. And, um, you think he's doing against his will? Yeah, it was, he's said it, the handler said that.

Jeff Nesbitt: No. Um, wait, what was against his will? What's his guy's name? Harvey Pat Neck, I think.

Brian Marteeny: And do you think he's doing it against his will? Like he's been coherent

Jeff Nesbitt: Um, maybe, but more than likely he is intelligence or he's, uh, he's a private security person or he is, uh, ex-military. Actually. I think he was, he was ex Canadian military. I wanna look that up. I wish we had a Jamie in here. Right now. I'm, I'm just coming up with all these good things to look up, but every time I go to the computer, I lose my train of thought.

Jeff Nesbitt: I was gonna look up the child, the Valencia child, uh, Teddy bear pictures. Yeah, I,

Brian Marteeny: I'd look it up on my phone, but there's no service at all.

Jeff Nesbitt: Use the wifi. Geez. Look at that. It's weird. It's, it's weird. Is what it is. Okay. First of all, how the fuck is that gonna sell? Any bags? Does that make you wanna buy a bag?

Brian Marteeny: No. I, I don't wanna buy a bag

Jeff Nesbitt: I don't think it would be satisfying. I think it would feel futile, cuz they're never gonna get 'em all. I don't think it would be satisfying if I'm being honest, but I think it still should be done. The world is a fucking scary place. You know what? I think I just put together a couple pieces. Okay. This is what I think is going on.

Jeff Nesbitt: So Kanye West has some weird relationship with Valencia. I don't know what it was. I think they were gonna make his fashion line and backed out or something. I'm not sure they were.

Brian Marteeny: Set up a huge spot for his shoes.

Jeff Nesbitt: Okay. I think that's what it was after Adidas? Or are they, are they somehow with Adidas?

Brian Marteeny: you're curious how much both those companies are worth compared to how much he's worth.

Jeff Nesbitt: That's true. Which I think he was probably worth more, I think. Well he said he was a billionaire now. He was, he had $11 billion before all this shit happened. He lost his Adidas contract and I think that number went down a lot. Oh dang. A lot

Brian Marteeny: that 10.9.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. But anyway, so all this stuff has happened with, so he made the post about having to go def con three on Jewish people, which was ill-advised.

Jeff Nesbitt: Antisemitism as we should be because of the Holocaust, because people weren't quite sensitive enough about it in 1935. No, uh, not quite. A lot of said nothings around A lot of people ran the Jews. Yeah. Yeah. Well they were definitely doing some shit and, but I'm talking about everybody else. They were scared.

Jeff Nesbitt: The the is it GOs, what, what do they call us? What do the Jews call us? Is it go? I don't know. I don't know either. Jamie, check that out. Exactly. Um, but yeah, they've got all kinds of QT names for Gentiles and, uh Okay. Yeah. But yeah, anyway. Gosh, there's so much shit to unpack about that because he references like ancient history stuff about the Ashkenazi Jewish line Yeah.

Jeff Nesbitt: Okay. He said he bought out as much as he could, and he's selling all of that shit for $20 a piece. And these are probably things that are worth several hundred, if not thousands of dollars a piece. And he's basically just giving them away to poor people is what he's making it seem like. That seems unlikely to be really what's happening.

Brian Marteeny: is just stuff you would like to believe in. Yes.

Jeff Nesbitt: But it's unlikely, but let's just say it.

Jeff Nesbitt: It's, it's possible. Give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Maybe Balenciaga saw that move and they're like, oh. And okay, so during that little rant, he said, um, he's concerned for his children being exploited in Hollywood because Hollywood is filled with child predators, allegedly. We all know that though, allegedly.

Jeff Nesbitt: We all know that to be true. And it, I'd like to assume that the evidence is so strong. That it is true, um, that it, it feels ignorant and reckless to not believe it at this point with so many credible sources talking about it. All these people we

Brian Marteeny: looked to for, uh,

Jeff Nesbitt: entertainment. Yeah, dude. I mean, it is actively tried to be covered up all the time.

Jeff Nesbitt: There's, there's active, uh, covering of, of this shit and we still, it still gets through to us. I saw Eli people

Jeff Nesbitt: there'd be public executions if, if poor people were doing that shit. The poor. Yeah.

Jeff Nesbitt: Fuck the poor . People hate the poor man. They really do. They do it. It's disgusting to me. I really, I hate it. I mean, they live in shit communities.

Jeff Nesbitt: They have a horrible existence. It's full of misery and no wonder they want to get high. No wonder they need a cheap way. Not even cheap, just an escape. Yes. If you can't change your circumstances, you change your point of view. Like it, you don't, people just wanna ride 'em off because they could make the choice to be sobers.

Jeff Nesbitt: Like why you get consumed? Why, why the fuck would you wanna be sober if you can't, like people who can't work or, or they're disabled. There are just people. Are gonna do that stuff. And they don't need to be morally just like crucified for it, they still deserve human rights anyway. Um, what were we saying?

Brian Marteeny: Oh yeah. I'm fucking rich. Would you want, wouldn't you like to be rich?

Jeff Nesbitt: Kind of, but I, I can see the, the pitfalls. I definitely, I don't, if I had the choice to like be very, very wealthy or stay on the current path I'm on, which is a path to moderate security, it's not like I still worry, like I still worry often.

Jeff Nesbitt: Um, but I, but I can eat subway anytime I fucking want. Yeah. is

Brian Marteeny: that how you gauge it?

Jeff Nesbitt: Yes. If you can eat subway whenever you want. If I can eat subway whenever the fuck I want, I am not broke. Cuz when you're actually broke and you realize. I'm so hungry and I can't get anything. I really can't get anything.

Jeff Nesbitt: That's a bad place to be. Yep. And you can get stuck there for years. You can get stuck there your entire life. So much that you think that's what the world is like. Debt. Debt. Exactly. Up. Yeah. Bad debt. Bad debt. Poor people. Debt. Poor people. Debt. The debt of the rich is an asset essentially. And it's traded as a commodity.

Jeff Nesbitt: The debt of the poor medical bills can't afford commodity insurance.

Brian Marteeny: You probably don't have a job that offers insurance or any benefits like that.

Jeff Nesbitt: Medical bills, credit card debt, student loans, credit card debt and student loans are the biggest ones for me because actually medical debt too, cuz you don't have a choice.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. So why wouldn't it work for us? And that's why they still act like all the fucking millennials are so lazy. When I was their age, I already bought a house and had two kids and a mistress, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I know. Because a house was fucking $25 back then. And, you know, you could have a mistress , but seriously, there was no, it was so much cheaper back then.

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. It was a

Jeff Nesbitt: completely different lifestyle. It really was. That mistress joke was really good. That was good. That good one, man. Uh, but you had a lot less technology too. Yeah. They couldn't be tracking you all the time. She couldn't just drop an air tag in your I was talking about that. I was just saying in general then.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Yeah. Dropping off a little, uh, air tag. Yeah. I do have air tags. I do have air tags. They're great. Do you ever use one? I

Brian Marteeny: had a, uh, I had a key chain that was similar to that lifesaver.

Jeff Nesbitt: I always lose my keys. Yeah, they're, they're hard to keep.

Jeff Nesbitt: I don't think they're with Kim Kardashian. P Davidson and all, all those cool. I don't think P Davidson anymore. Whatever. I don't give a shit somewhere. They are not with him. Yeah. Um, so they made this ad campaign where it's like, look at this. You don't like people victimizing kids, huh? And you're gonna victimize our clothes.

Jeff Nesbitt: Our clothes are gonna go on. Poor people. No, no, no. And then they made that, and then he's supposed to see that and be like, oh fuck. I

Brian Marteeny: dunno if you can find out whose children those are. Like who? Oh, that's a great question. Who put their kids out there to be

Jeff Nesbitt: modeled like that? That's a great question. And who made that?

Jeff Nesbitt: I'd rather

Brian Marteeny: hear that someone had a gun in their head to make that rather than enjoying it.

Jeff Nesbitt: Like, oh, I'll take that. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Like they, they lost some kind of a gambling debt and they had to humiliate themselves as a punishment or something. I hope that was it. Because they should be humiliated.

Jeff Nesbitt: This is disgusting. At least the kids are covered up. I'm surprised this is still online. It's everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Well that's the thing cuz you, you could, if you're the person who made this, you could make the argument like, no, you really can't because of the p. There's no way to get around that. Why somebody?

Jeff Nesbitt: And, uh, like another one where with a guy, but two other pictures. They're just like, something weird is happening over at Valencia. What's going on over there? It's disgusting.

Brian Marteeny: I want to check their stock.

Jeff Nesbitt: See if you look down. Oh yeah. Good buying opportunity might be coming up. Oh, buy the dip, Brian. Buy the dip.

Jeff Nesbitt: Just kidding. Don't support pedophiles. Y'all do my

Brian Marteeny: best not to do that.

Jeff Nesbitt: That's hard. . That's hard to not, they make all the, the media . Yeah.

Brian Marteeny: Ah, they do.

Jeff Nesbitt: I'd even say possibly the most popular media conglomerate on the earth. I don't, I don't really know the rankings, but they're one of the big ones. And, um, it was full of pedophile imagery, symbols. The symbols that the FBI put out in their bulletin that says, Hey, be on the lookout for these symbols.

Jeff Nesbitt: These are known symbols of child traffickers and pedophiles. Where was it at in this kid's show? Yeah. Yeah. And I noticed it and I, I looked them up and I showed my wife and I, like, I watched this whole episode and then I watched another one cuz my daughter was watching it. And it's like a well known story and everything, but it's been like, I don't wanna say what it is because last time I actually talked about it and I said what it really was and shit started being weird.

Jeff Nesbitt: I, I. It's just pattern recognition

Brian Marteeny: is a popular show nowadays, or

Jeff Nesbitt: No? It's a, it's not, it's like, um, I'll just tell you what it is and we'll bleep it out. That's sounds right. It's Allison Wonderlands, Wonderland Bakery. So it's like, it's a popular story. We all know the story, we know the characters, we know the archetypes associated with those characters.

Jeff Nesbitt: Mm-hmm. . And because of that, I feel like it can be really easily hijacked and used to send coded messages. And I think that's what's happening. So. Have you heard them talk about, like, these gatherings where these people get together and victimized kids? this is where like a large human trafficking, industry is supposedly supporting these, these disgusting get togethers, like cults?

Jeff Nesbitt: Granted, a lot of it is debunked, so be careful what you're consuming, but also just be careful if you don't wanna fall into a rabbit hole and a pit of despair about what a disgusting fucking place you live. Don't even look into it. If you care, and if you wanna look into it, I encourage you to do so. But if you just would like to continue living, uh, comfortably and not thinking people are disgusting, don't look into this one.

Jeff Nesbitt: Ignorance is bliss. It truly, truly is. It's also disgusting. Yeah. It's What a downer. Why'd you bring this up? Brian? Did I do that? Uh, I don't know. You did. And I did. Cause I'm just, what the fuck,

Brian Marteeny: Jeff? It

Jeff Nesbitt: I'm sorry. It's all right.

Brian Marteeny: Um, what a slide. We'll move

Jeff Nesbitt: on. We'll move on. We'll see how this Balenciaga thing shakes out. I never did finish telling you, uh, how I got rear-ended. so this girl gets out of the car and she's crying and she's very upset and she's like, she was okay physically? I think so. Yeah.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. It's like she's, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I don't know what I'm gonna do. This is the second, this is the second car this year. And I was just like, oh, great. And I'm filming this part . Um, and yeah, the kid is in the car, just looks terrified. And I, as he should

Brian Marteeny: be, it's probably his

Jeff Nesbitt: first as a girl, little girl.

Jeff Nesbitt: And then she's like, oh, we still have so far to go. I was like, where are you? Where are you going? She's like, we're from Marysville and we're going to Vancouver. Oh damn. Which I realized while I was driving home. What were you even doing in South Bend that is not the quickest route between Marysville and Vancouver?

Jeff Nesbitt: It's a scenic route. Yeah, it's a motor beautiful route, but it's it's a long ass drive. Adding at least two hours. Yeah. If not three. And uh, so I don't know. That's, maybe she visiting somebody. Maybe. Maybe. But the car was a loner. She was borrowing it from a friend cuz she crashed her other one, I think.

Jeff Nesbitt: Anyway, I don't care about any of that shit because I couldn't help but feel for this little kid who was sitting in the backseat scared. And I know that I am holding it in my hand, the power to just upend her fucking life. Because that's what happens when you're poor and your parents fuck. Your life gets turned upside down.

Brian Marteeny: You didn't know if she had a license or not?

Jeff Nesbitt: Have you called? I didn't check if she had a license, but I, I got her name, her number and, uh, pictures and video of the car. So that's, that's all I really needed. I, she didn't have insurance to give me , she was calling her boyfriend trying to figure out what to do and calling the guy to get the insurance for the car.

Jeff Nesbitt: And she needed me to like wait around with her. And, uh, she's all paranoid cuz the cops were driving by and I'm pretty sure it was Randy . Um, I was just like, it's, it's okay. These, I know the cops, most of 'em, it's not illegal to get into an

Brian Marteeny: accident

Jeff Nesbitt: anyways. No, I mean, it is illegal not to look where you're going and run into somebody, but I was the victim or she's trafficking into

Brian Marteeny: that child.

Brian Marteeny: That's why she's paranoid.

Brian Marteeny: Is that your kid? Is that your kid?

Jeff Nesbitt: Is that your dog? Yeah. Hey. No, they were a little family. Yeah, they were little family. But, um, I went, I walked across the road and grabbed, some candy for the kid and I forgot to get something for the dog.

Jeff Nesbitt: I'll be honest, I had planned to get him a jerky stick and I didn't, but, kid probably give him some candy anyways. Yeah, I hope so. I hope that pit bull got some Skittles. Yeah, . So I asked the little kid what her name was, told her my name, and like got her some candy and the mom lightened up a lot when that happened.

Jeff Nesbitt: And I told her, I'm not gonna fuck your day up. Okay, calm down. Stop, stop freaking out. I'm, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna call the cops. I'm not gonna, my neck is fine. Like, I'm not gonna ruin your day. Cuz I could have pretty bad. Oh yeah. so I'm sure

Brian Marteeny: she calmed down right away. Just the fact of you being calm and confident like that.

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. Made her feel at ease.

Jeff Nesbitt: And I'm gonna turn off and go towards my house and you're gonna go on with your trip. But, while we're driving big chunks of her car are just flying off and just like flinging down the road. and I can see the fucking dog jumping all over the car. She's just stressed. She's probably just screaming in there.

Jeff Nesbitt: This fucking poor little kid. She's got a bag of Skittles and I don't even, I got a shitload of candy. . Get all hopped up. Well, dude, I, I, I just, I hate the idea of being in a little kid's memory as I'm never gonna interact with that kid again. Yeah. Those people again, but she's not gonna forget that experience.

Jeff Nesbitt: just a fuck up. She's a fuck up. She thinks

Brian Marteeny: she's gonna put that concept together.

Jeff Nesbitt: No, no. Maybe subconsciously

Brian Marteeny: she'll see,

Jeff Nesbitt: maybe subconsciously you were she'll, she definitely would, would see the threat. I mean, as a little kid, I remember. How was she being able to identify threats very easily?

Jeff Nesbitt: Five or six? She was six. Six. She was six. Her name was Chloe. And, uh, She just didn't deserve that , she didn't deserve to be in a car accident in the first place. Yeah. she really didn't deserve me to call the cops, get her mom fucking, probably arrested. Possibly arrested. I don't know what they had in the car.

Jeff Nesbitt: Like, I don't know. I mean, if someone's paranoid

Brian Marteeny: about the police driving by when you get into an accident. Exactly. There's probably something going on.

Jeff Nesbitt: She didn't seem like she had much money. And yeah. So I don't know, but I just really didn't want that kid to be traumatized. . I, seriously, that's all I was really thinking about. I just like, fuck, how can I make this good for man? Have you told anybody else that? No. No. Oh, I

Brian Marteeny: should, you kept that one for yourself?

Jeff Nesbitt: I, I don't know.

Brian Marteeny: Just do like a good thing and not tell anyone. Just, I don't even

Jeff Nesbitt: think, I think it was like, An interesting anecdote. I don't think it, I'm not even trying to pat myself on the back, but it felt good. It's just something I did take, you did the right thing, so that felt good. You should feel good if you're doing the right thing.

Brian Marteeny: have also taken that time to teach our value bill

Jeff Nesbitt: lesson.

Jeff Nesbitt: That's what most people probably would do. That's not who I am. Yeah, that's, but honestly, we do need those people as well. Yep. The world will fall apart. If it was all people like me, it would not, it would not, uh, imagine the court system. I mean, it's already a fucking mess. It'd be a mess in ne directions.

Jeff Nesbitt: It'd be, it wouldn't be locking up a bunch of innocent people, that's for sure. Yeah. But there'd be some crooks on the street. I'll tell you that.

Jeff Nesbitt: uh, you ever get rear-ended? I have. It's scary. Uh, it's like getting last year, it's like backing up into an electric fence. You just don't see it coming.

Brian Marteeny: I've never done that. I've grabbed an electric fence. Just, just

Jeff Nesbitt: a c That's different. It's not like getting rear ended. No, not at all.

Brian Marteeny: anyway. Crashing into something straight on you.

Jeff Nesbitt: You did get rear-ended

Brian Marteeny: She had a sweatshirt on backwards with a kitten in the hood. So I think that she

Jeff Nesbitt: was not classic new kitten. Yep. Distracted by her new kitten. So I'm a little

Brian Marteeny: paranoid cause I just lie to joint

Jeff Nesbitt: and she's basically a cop.

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. Well I wasn't even worried about that. So we pull off, um, she's kind of freaking out.

Brian Marteeny: , and then she starts offering me money. I think she offered me like 700 bucks right there. And cuz my bumper was kind of hanging there, the little Corolla just got a hit pretty hard.

Jeff Nesbitt: Uh, they take a hit pretty

Brian Marteeny: hard. Yeah. so she does that and then I say, well, I don't know how much it's gonna cost to get fixed, blah, blah, blah.

Brian Marteeny: Wow.

Jeff Nesbitt: I

Brian Marteeny: was not expecting that at all. Well, that's cool. Yeah. I just pocket the money and pop my bumper back on. So

Jeff Nesbitt: cost's pay their bills. Yeah. They have to.

Brian Marteeny: She seemed really, really paranoid herself. Like if she was gonna get in a lot of trouble. I don't know if it's, if you can get in trouble with being in the Coast Guard or the military while getting into an accident,

Jeff Nesbitt: I would imagine you can possibly, yeah, I probably wouldn't want that on your record.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. I think just anytime you're in a government vehicle and you rear end somebody. She wasn't, she was in her personal vehicle. Oh yeah. I wonder why she cared so much. I don't

Brian Marteeny: know. I didn't really, I didn't really care. Probably child

Jeff Nesbitt: trafficking, kitten trafficking. Kitten trafficking. Those over assholes.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Do you have any cats? I do. I always remember you as a cat guy.

Brian Marteeny: I think he did one time and he like went over an apology. What seemed like a sincere apology little nose rub. Yeah. And he'd always wave for me at the door when I got home from work. And he was inside, outside Cat. so he was, I dunno, he just seemed like a really, like, we were really good friends and my friend from Idaho sent me pictures of a orange kit and I was like, all right, I'll take him.

Brian Marteeny: Nice. Not try to replace the cat. Cause you can't not,

Jeff Nesbitt: you can't. If you try, then you just have a end up with a cat you hate. Yeah. Even if you get a clone cat, did you know that the personality's not, doesn't come through in the cloning process? I've thought about that. Yeah. That's the soul. Yeah. That's already gone.

Jeff Nesbitt: You can't really, really replicate that unless somehow you find out how to download consciousness, which they're working on, but not with, actually I met the, you use that movie Chappy? No.

Brian Marteeny: Oh, check it out. What's Chappy? Uh, it's about,

Jeff Nesbitt: So I play a little, wait, am I gonna get copyright infringement if I play some? I don't. I don't know. Maybe. I'm gonna try.

Brian Marteeny: It's a cool movie. Check it out.

Brian Marteeny: So. Oh, it's a movie? Yeah, it's

Jeff Nesbitt: a movie. Oh, I thought it was a band. So

Brian Marteeny: that the band is in it. But they're playing, they're playing themselves, but they're not playing themselves. I don't know. Like a Beatles

Jeff Nesbitt: movie kind of. Do you remember those? An Elvis movie? Yeah, but

Brian Marteeny: they're, but they're gangsters and South Africa and the way in the future, and they have these robots that are replaced in the military and the police, and then they steal this one and they start.

Brian Marteeny: Kind of mixing everything up with, uh, consciousness and

Brian Marteeny: similar. I've had opportunity. I think I owned the movie at one point.

Brian Marteeny: It's good. And I never watched

Jeff Nesbitt: it. You you'd like it. It's good. It's, it's kind of a, they make the robot kind of hot. Yeah. And that helps. It makes it more personal. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know why it even matters, but it does matter. They make 'em hot in real life.

Jeff Nesbitt: Like they try, at least they try the sex robots. Well, those ones for sure. But I don't think sex robot trafficking, I don't think they're quite as into the AI on those ones. It's more of just like, oh yes, harder put it there. Robot stuff. Right. But I think the, like the newer speech robots, those ones are also pretty Sexy.

Jeff Nesbitt: Sexy. Like Sophia. Have you seen that one? I don't think so. When she got her wig on? Mm. She's looking.

Brian Marteeny: Okay. I

Jeff Nesbitt: check that out.

Brian Marteeny: Let's pull it up.

Jeff Nesbitt: like the old Chucky cheese robots. Things have gotten better since then. See,

Brian Marteeny: oh, I have

Jeff Nesbitt: seen this. She's not actually hot, but they're trying, she's wearing makeup. I think they're

Brian Marteeny: trying to get her to look pretty neutral,

Jeff Nesbitt: like gender neutral. I don't know. She's, she's at least an eight

Jeff Nesbitt: kind of a bitch though. Is that Will Smith? Yeah. Oh, you can't see.

Jeff Nesbitt: Turn it off. Turn it off. Jamie. How you doing? So the game, um, don't say

Brian Marteeny: it. You don't, I don't really, I don't really have too many nfcs anymore. I just had, I had a little, a couple of them and then, uh, I had that one that I was, that DJ tunes. I should have waited one more

Jeff Nesbitt: day For what? To sell it. Oh, really?

Jeff Nesbitt: Did, yeah. Did it jump? It

Jeff Nesbitt: 5,000. Oh, that's a jump. Yeah. Damn. Well, that's all right. Did you make profit? I'd say you're better off than 99.9% of the people in the NFT market today. Yeah. That's a year ago right now. People were so high up in nfc, they crashed so hard. I've never seen anything like it.

Jeff Nesbitt: I I haven't been in the, the game long enough. Yeah, exactly. It's just unprecedented. And

Brian Marteeny: they're more volatile than crypto is. Yeah, because then you gotta get someone to buy this thing.

Jeff Nesbitt: Crypto has crashed. Oh, big time. Like crazy. I never thought I would see it, a Bitcoin under 20,000 again. I spent 16,000 all week.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yep. It's crazy. I think everything went up a little bit today. I do think I, I do believe that Bitcoin will still be fine and I, I, it'll probably still do this major cycle several more times before it You think it's gonna jump up when it has? Yeah. I don't, I mean, I don't know when about the timing, but it eventually will.

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. I know that's coming. I think it's either next year or the following. It's creeping.

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh yeah. So total Bitcoin in existence right now, which is the total that have been mined so far is 19,212,768. The remaining is 1 million 787 231. That's not a lot. No. And those, those last million and a half are going to be increasingly more scarce because people are gonna continue to keep buying. And the, the blocks are getting, is it bigger or smaller?

Jeff Nesbitt: Is like, but then you never actually reach the bench because half that distance is still a number you never reach zero. You're always going half, half, half, half, half. Yeah. So the having process stretches out that last million and a half Bitcoin really far? I think so. I don't know when the actual having will be done.

Jeff Nesbitt: When, when the last one will be mine.

Brian Marteeny: I bet it says the last one, but I know it's, it's happening in the next

Jeff Nesbitt: year. So yeah, I think then that would mean it's gotta be close. But yeah. Anyway. Did you hear that? That was my knee. I did hear that. It's a good one. Yeah. I'm a very poppy, snappy person too. Me too.

Jeff Nesbitt: Lots of them. Lots of them. Um, oh, I just did one my ankle. Did you hear that? That was fantastic.

Brian Marteeny: I wish it didn't happen though. It makes me worry about when I'm older how much my knee is

Jeff Nesbitt: gonna hurt. Did you have, have you always been a crackly person? Not really. Really? It's new. It started my wrist. It's

Brian Marteeny: probably arthritis, I think it is.

Brian Marteeny: Especially

Brian Marteeny: like, I mean, it's like running a chainsaw. Yeah. Those fuckers

Jeff Nesbitt: buck. Yeah. Is it a dual action?

Jeff Nesbitt: Like does it have the little rotating wiggly weight on the outside that makes it go like, you know what I mean? It's got a, I have rotating this way and this way. Yeah. The random

Brian Marteeny: orbital. Yeah, I have one of those and I have a, just a variable speed polisher.

Jeff Nesbitt: Nice. Yeah, I remember watching my dad buffing cars as a kid for hours.

Jeff Nesbitt: Takes so long. But that stuff, yeah, it'll wear on you. Makes such a huge difference though. Polishing stuff. Oh, good time. It's awesome. I love the finished product on that kind of a job. Very rewarding. Did you shout out your business? Tell him what? Tell 'em what you want, what you do and uh, where they can find you if they want your services.

Brian Marteeny: I can't do that . Okay. Because I'm working for the dealership.

Brian Marteeny: I'm not even supposed to do it on the side now.

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, yeah, it's like a contract. Oh, okay. So you can't do it. Well they didn't, there's no

Brian Marteeny: contract. I have a contract with the company.

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. But nowhere does it say it was like a word of mouth type thing. Like, say for some reason they think that, me doing some side business is gonna take away from their detail business.

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, they do a detail business. Well then it will, well

Brian Marteeny: I'm running the detail shop for the company.

Jeff Nesbitt: It's, it's a conflict of interest.

Jeff Nesbitt: You could siphon, you could siphon business and direct people to you.

Jeff Nesbitt: I'm gonna take this off. It's starting to get warm in here. It is. I could adjust the heat too. I got that one adjustable one. Thank you. Ford Electric.

Brian Marteeny: Not that shout out Ford

Jeff Nesbitt: Electric. Yeah.

Brian Marteeny: No, but next year, cause I'm getting my general contractor's license now. Mm-hmm.

Jeff Nesbitt: cool. Are you gonna start a business? I am.

Brian Marteeny: So I'm gonna do, I just wanna do some basic stuff. Just continue the uh, the mobile detailing and power washing. Oh yeah.

Jeff Nesbitt: And just incorporate that so I can do that. Seems like a business that would do well here.

Brian Marteeny: So I figure if I do that, they'll supplement each other, then I can get a shop. Cool. Yeah. There's just nothing to rent right now for shops or anything. They're so fucking expensive if you do find something.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. It's Wild everything. Houses, shops, it's all very expensive. The housing market's

Brian Marteeny: going down, but the interest rates are

Jeff Nesbitt: going up. Yeah. That's probably has something to do with it. Isn't that why they do that? They wanna slow the economy down, so make it harder to get access to capital. So fewer people are starting businesses and buying houses and inflation comes back.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. People are gonna be

Brian Marteeny: paying more anyways. So regardless if you have good credit or not, you're gonna get the

Jeff Nesbitt: loan. Fewer people will do it though. So they're actually trying to actively squash the economy and get it to slow down. Cuz it's, it's inflated. It's too big to support itself. Oh, big time.

Brian Marteeny: So it's, so much money was made in that housing

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. And a lot of that money was printed outta thin air. Yeah. And just added to the, to the economy. Just out nowhere in a very short amount of time. How much was it, how much was the relief bill had to be tri? Was it trillions? It was, it was trillion. It was a lot of money.

Jeff Nesbitt: They gave out so much money. Yeah.

Brian Marteeny: I mean, money hasn't been worth anything since the gold

Jeff Nesbitt: standard went away. It's all imaginary. Yeah. . It really is. , the amount they gave out to businesses though was really where it was astronomical because no one really talked about that. Everybody talks about their money, like as if it's not a secret on the lower rungs of society.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Rich people do not tell you what they have. They don't tell you what they're getting. They don't, they don't want you to know because why would you need to know and don't ask. They'll get offended. They will. Yeah. That's not something that they talk about, like how

Brian Marteeny: people would be offended, which, uh, party they're gonna vote for.

Brian Marteeny: Or who they're voting for way back in the day. And now people are very like, you don't think so? I think people are

Jeff Nesbitt: way more open about it. Oh. Oh. I I think people will still be offended though. Like they're open about it. You mean open about it as a, they'll talk about or open to other people's ideas that are maybe not reflecting on their own to talk about it.

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh yeah, definitely. Cuz they wanna prove how right they are. Yep. ,

Brian Marteeny: self-righteous pricks.

Jeff Nesbitt: Hey, don't take things from other people that don't belong to you. Hey, don't overutilize common resources, things like that. It's pretty basic. Hey, don't try to block free speech. These things are important to me. But as far as like individual people, nah, not a single one. I don't have anyone I'm attached to politically.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, I'm pretty attached to people in other ways, like my family. That's good, but

Brian Marteeny: good one to be attached to. Yeah. You can have another water or, uh, I do. There's You ever try this LaCroix? I have.

Jeff Nesbitt: What do you

Brian Marteeny: think? Um, I'm pretty, um, they make

Jeff Nesbitt: I can go get a couple more bottles. Do you wanna take a break? Do you got a piss? No,

Brian Marteeny: I

Jeff Nesbitt: there's ginger beer. Let's do a drink. You wanna have a drink? Well, yeah. I do love ginger beer. Let's have some Moscow mules. They're good. It's ginger beer with vodka lime. Be the

Brian Marteeny: buffalo trace with the ginger

Jeff Nesbitt: beer.

Brian Marteeny: Have you had one of. Huh? Mixed together with that. With that. Yeah.

Jeff Nesbitt: You can have any combination of these you want. Do you wanna just, we can try some whiskey now that we have some water. Yeah.

Brian Marteeny: Do you

Jeff Nesbitt: wanna try some of this good whiskey, like the whistle pig?

Jeff Nesbitt: Sure.

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh wow. The angels share. Is the bottle's gone down? I wonder if that's for evaporation or somebody's been sneaking a couple drinks.

Jeff Nesbitt: um, do you want to have it just over ice? Is that okay? Yeah, it's fine.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Uh, nevermind. I don't wanna do this in the big ice cup cuz it's gonna just not gonna, well, no, it'll work. You just want me to

Brian Marteeny: take a pool off it or there's a shot glass right here. I just don't want it to

Jeff Nesbitt: be wasted.

Jeff Nesbitt: People will judge us for how

Brian Marteeny: No, I get it, man. I mean, take all that time and energy to take all the water out of it and then we're just putting it back together. So Yeah.

Jeff Nesbitt: I'm just gonna drink the rest of this.

Brian Marteeny: Awesome. Thank you. Cheers. Cheers.

Brian Marteeny: It stings the nostrils. It's like pure

Jeff Nesbitt: gasoline. It's got bits of real panther in it. Oh.

Brian Marteeny: So you know, it's good. It's got notes of Bigfoot's Dick, I forget the rest. . They don't make movies like that anymore. They

Jeff Nesbitt: don't. The last one I can remember is like, uh, Tropic Thunder or Super Bad, which

Brian Marteeny: I think Tropic Thunder was way after super bad. Was it? Super Bad? Was like 2007,

Brian Marteeny: first one where it kind of, it started off from there, then went to like stepbrothers and Yeah.

Jeff Nesbitt: Well the first one of those Judd Aow ones I think was uh, knocked up.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Knocked up. Knocked up. That was the beginning of that run, which was fantastic. Yeah. There's a lot of good movies in there. 40 year Old Virgin. Yep. I'm a big Steve Curl

Brian Marteeny: fan. Oh yeah,

Jeff Nesbitt: me too. He's hilarious. Some of the office stuff is like, The, the script of my head. Yeah. Like I, I, I use office quotes in my regular life, just like memes all the time.

Jeff Nesbitt: Well,

Brian Marteeny: they don't say, have you seen the offices say, do you watch the Office? Yeah. .

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. It's been canceled for 10 years. I fucking repeat.

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. And Netflix

Jeff Nesbitt: Like I, once you start watching it, you just can't really stop it. , something bad will happen. You know, I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious. You

Brian Marteeny: ask for it all the time. Like, can we watch, can we watch the office? And we have YouTube tv. So it's usually planned.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. It's good stuff. Still somehow culturally relevant.

Jeff Nesbitt: People still talk about it and it's been a long time. It would not

Brian Marteeny: last. There's no way. If they came out now, there's no way it would be able to sustain itself with

Jeff Nesbitt: Michael Scott. I didn't even think about it as a race show back then at all. But it

Brian Marteeny: totally is because I mean, Michael Scott is. He means no harm by any of this stuff.

Brian Marteeny: He's just trying to make his his family happy and make him laugh. . Yeah. He's making a complete ass for himself.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yep. Yeah. It happens a lot. They did a really good job there. Yeah. The writing, the characters on that show are very well developed. That's all the show is. It's just characters. It's pretty good. Have you seen the British version? Yeah, I

Brian Marteeny: didn't like it as much. Uh, but I mean, it is, it's, it's cool in its own way.

Brian Marteeny: Cause it's obviously, it's British and the, I don't What's the main

Jeff Nesbitt: guy that plays Jase? Yeah. He's funny. God. Have you seen his hosting of the Golden Globes or the, I believe it's the Golden Globes. Maybe the Oscars. I don't know. One of the big awards shows. He fucking tears those Hollywood pedophiles to Shreds says some really good for him, man.

Jeff Nesbitt: Really? Uh, funny shit.

Jeff Nesbitt: I like

Brian Marteeny: banter, but not witty banter. ,

Jeff Nesbitt: what is that from? I know that quote.

Brian Marteeny: That's the office. Oh it is? Okay. It's Kevin

Brian Marteeny: I liked when he met Michael Scott on the show. I was hoping so bad that they were gonna, he was gonna interview. Oh yeah.

Jeff Nesbitt: He's a funny dude.

Jeff Nesbitt: So now that you are a parent, does it cause you to reflect on your own childhood and the parenting that was done to you? , for you, however you wanna look at it. Um, I know we talked a little bit ahead of time before the podcast about thinking back on your childhood and you said, talked about how your grandparents, you, you regretted some of the ways that you had behaved, or that you wished you would've.

Jeff Nesbitt: Let me just pull it up actually so I don't misquote you. Oh, I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah. You said, um, I wish I would have been better to my grandparents growing up with them was confusing for me. Um, do you wanna talk about that? Yeah, we can talk about that. Cause that's, that's real shit.

Jeff Nesbitt: Like, that's something I think people could all relate to.

Brian Marteeny: I'm sure I've talked to my other family. I think some of my aunts, my uncles would've adopted me as to get me out of that. But I think that I took it for granted and I never, I mean, I totally wish I could be able to talk to my grandpa now and at least shows, even though he is kind of an old badass, and there was no, uh, there wasn't a whole lot of physical affection in the house.

Brian Marteeny: I mean, my grandma gave a hug once in a while, but it wasn't like a, especially between those two, they're kind of separated, but I mean, they were married for 50 years, but I just feel like it was, it was always cool to go to someone else's house and spend the night or whatever, and they're, both their parents are there and it just felt more, I don't know, complete mm-hmm.

Brian Marteeny: Um, not saying my grandparents didn't love me or didn't give

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. They gave the best life they possibly could. I mean, uh, they never even owned a house until just a last few years. Uh, within the last, yeah, the last few years before my grandpa died.

Brian Marteeny: I just don't remember them ever owning a house before that.

Jeff Nesbitt: So, I remember the South Winds motel was, was theirs, right? Or they were they running it? I remember you lived there. Yeah. So

Brian Marteeny: we lived at that house, but they were running those units out and uh, part of living there is, you have to be the manager of those, that property.

Brian Marteeny: Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I remember the, uh, it was a weird couple that owned it. Uh, the woman's name was Ben Tina, and the guy's name was Ben. So it was Ben and Ben Tina. Oh,

Jeff Nesbitt: were they, what ethnicity were they or nationality? I think that he,

Brian Marteeny: I don't, I don't remember. I remember he had brown skin. I don't remember if he was Hispanic or very white cuz she had a little dog in

Jeff Nesbitt: She was a white lady with named Benina. Yeah.

Brian Marteeny: Really? Yeah. She might've been, um, like a foreign white. Mm-hmm. ,

Jeff Nesbitt: I don't know. They have them. Yeah, they have 'em. Yeah. Yeah. I honestly don't. Interesting. Yeah. but yeah. How old were you when you guys moved out there and went to Surfside? Oh,

Brian Marteeny: that was, I wanna say fourth maybe.

Jeff Nesbitt: Fourth grade. Okay. That makes sense. That sounds about right with my timeline cuz I remember maybe only going there one time and we were pretty little. I, I mean, we've been friends since first grade. I remember you coming to my house that year and I gave you a dinosaur soaps as a, as a welcome to my home.

Brian Marteeny: and I don't think I used them because I wanted to keep them.

Brian Marteeny: They just stayed in the bathroom.

Jeff Nesbitt: Why do you think kids love dinosaurs so much? They're badass. They are badass. Yeah. But girls don't care. They don't love badass things as much. Some of 'em do. Yeah. Some of lesbians . Uh, no. Seriously though there's some pretty cool chicks out there that love, uh, all the normal shit, but there's lots of 'em that don't like manly stuff too.

Jeff Nesbitt: those things are just awesome and I can't control it. Yeah. They're a badass. it's, it's not something we have a choice over. And I, I had kind of come to the idea. That kind of stuff is socially constructed. So, , which is, may or may not even be true. I still think it probably is true, but, uh, so that we had a choice in the matter, but the person who is actually experiencing those things has no choice.

Jeff Nesbitt: I just have to listen to bickering.

Brian Marteeny: They all b her, send the boys back to her mom's the other day. Um, the grandma text me asking if, Wyatt, bit Eli, I had noticed. I know that they were, they got into it a couple times in the room, but , I don't know. Did he, well she showed me a picture that he had bite Mark was like, oh, I guess he did it would up

Jeff Nesbitt: here.

Jeff Nesbitt: So , check the teeth, match them. You can figure this out.

Brian Marteeny: But what was your question? I

Jeff Nesbitt: don't know. Something about Oh yeah, just, well it was something you said you, you might wanna talk about was just like looking back over your childhood and um, kind of reflecting as an adult about what it really was. You covered it a little bit.

Jeff Nesbitt: The, just being able to see it for like how they actually saved you from what could have been a life altering situation. And as a little kid you didn't see any of that. you didn't have any control over the situation. So to you they were just more authority figures telling you what to do. Yep.

Brian Marteeny: was, I think you were trying, you're asking me to, to compare, uh, like was your thing, the parenting that I was

Jeff Nesbitt: brought up in, do you been, yeah. Do you think you'd be a different parent if you had come up with like, through the foster care system?

Jeff Nesbitt: Like do you think that, what, what would life have been like if they hadn't , changed it drastically for you? You never know. So like what did you gain from that experience that you brought with you into your parenting? I dunno, because it was kind of a

Brian Marteeny: positive or negative. Yeah, it was just a completely different upbringing because instead of having two parents that go to work and, uh, come home and are affectionate or, um, spent like more quality time together, like how people do in relationships, That didn't happen.

Brian Marteeny: Like they were, they were very separate people, but

Brian Marteeny: I think so. I mean, they would go for their drives and mm-hmm. , , like when we'd go out to dinner, it was a big deal.

Brian Marteeny: Um, we didn't do

Jeff Nesbitt: it very often. But that's more old school, they were traditional. Oh, absolutely. I think a lot of, I think , that was the norm for a lot of people in that generation of just like, that stuff's separate or it just, I mean, a lot of relationships that just kind of dwindles away.

Brian Marteeny: My aunts and uncles would tell me how strict they were when they were growing up. Mm-hmm. and I had eight aunts and uncles. Oh shit. So, I mean, I'm this ninth, well, technically 10th child. Cause my, they had a, a daughter that died in the crib. I'm not sure. I didn't really, I just know a little bit about it, but that sucks.

Brian Marteeny: This essentially this ninth child that they're raising. Yeah.

Brian Marteeny: maybe, probably Yep.

Jeff Nesbitt: But you think you would do it if you were in their shoes taking a kid after all those years of taking in your own kids?

Jeff Nesbitt: If I was able

Brian Marteeny: to. Maybe, I don't know. That's a, it's a big thing to do. It really is. That's not really a

Jeff Nesbitt: what if, what if it was a like, I don't know. It's like somebody, it, it would have to be somebody you were really close to their kid. Like your own kid's kid is, is one of the easy examples. But your kids don't have kids.

Jeff Nesbitt: I think I could do it. Oh, you definitely could. You just have to give your life to it. That's all. Yeah. Like it just has to take

Brian Marteeny: over everything. It's just another, it's just, I mean, at this point it's just adding another one to the

Jeff Nesbitt: bunch. Mm-hmm. . Uh, it's a, it's like, it really does take, like when people say parenthood changes your life, it's not just in the cliche like, oh, I'm a changed man.

Jeff Nesbitt: Like, my life is also,

Brian Marteeny: you literally have to stop doing the things that you were doing and going in this completely different direction. You

Brian Marteeny: and then if you, if you don't, then you end up having to have your parents raise your

Jeff Nesbitt: fucking kid. Yeah, exactly.

Jeff Nesbitt: Or, or you end up raising kids who don't know how to raise kids and then the cycle continues. Right. It, it's, yeah. It's insidious that, that kind of, , repeating pattern, but it only takes one generation to break it cuz the good patterns repeat as well. Yeah. Like the patterns for growing wealth and just accumulating family security.

Jeff Nesbitt: My family doesn't have any of that. Like I, I started from zero, my parents definitely started from zero. I don't really know much about anybody beyond that, but I think that's a pretty common story in this day and age. We don't have generational wealth. What was the middle class? The vast middle class.

Brian Marteeny: me.

Brian Marteeny: I mean, it is. I mean, a lot of people agree that it absolutely is collapsing on itself and it's just gonna keep going that way because no one's instilling these values that were taught Yeah. 40, 50 years ago. But there's a lot of negative stuff in there, too.

Jeff Nesbitt: Ton of it. Well, that's the thing, that's what makes it so easy to, uh, just be like, burn it all down what we're gonna reactivate the systems with all the racism and sexism and keeping women in the house and nobody votes, but white guys. Like, no, no, we're not gonna do any of that. But maybe like some sense of civic duty might be cool. Like treat people well. maybe bring back values, like, uh, families like that.

Jeff Nesbitt: It's okay to have, a stay at home mom. We don't need to be thinking that. That's the only way I think that popular,

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. It's not even really possible now. Yeah. We're a dual in our household and we still have like, it's, it's not easy.

Jeff Nesbitt: No, absolutely not. If you wanna go live a life where you have any fun or do anything that costs money, it's, it's hard. You have

Brian Marteeny: to live like you're poor to do. Not poor stuff

Jeff Nesbitt: later . Exactly. And that's hard. Yeah. I, I, I actually really struggle with that. I, I would rather live, like I'm not poor daily and never go on a vacation, like, but I'd go to the store and get burrito if I want one.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. I I know what

Brian Marteeny: you're saying. Like if you're, if you see the hot case, like, ah, will get a pizza pocket today,

Jeff Nesbitt: energy drink. Yes, please. $6. Woo. Okay. Yep. but I don't wanna live like that anymore. It's really not healthy in way in long-term. It's gonna just, there's no long-term benefit. Nope. At all. And so many long-term drawbacks.

Brian Marteeny: Or the extra grease.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. There's nothing for me in there. Yeah. That is basically what I'm saying. And once I get an electric vehicle, come on, Elon, gimme that fucking cyber truck. Once I get the cyber truck, I have no reason to go to the gas station anymore. Smart water. Find somebody else to pay for your fucking company.

Jeff Nesbitt: I'm not buying anymore. I actually, I'm just gonna start bringing a five gallon jug up into the hills and fill it from a Wild spring. Well, they had the one out on 26. There's one way closer, like it's between South Bend and my house. So I can, I can do it. But yet to drive like out there. Yeah. It's pretty cool.

Jeff Nesbitt: I made a TikTok about it one time. So check it out. If you're into Wild Mountain Springs.

Brian Marteeny: I always say when I get water from the one out on 26, I mean when you're driving by you might as well stop.

Brian Marteeny: jugs or I forget my fucking couple jugs that I keep at

Jeff Nesbitt: the house.

Jeff Nesbitt: So, or young weirdos, whatever. Yeah.

Brian Marteeny: I mean, weirdos are of ages.

Jeff Nesbitt: Jinx. Yeah. But The weirdos are the ones who are going to the water sources that are Wild and you know, getting the stuff that's not filled with fucking plastic residues and shit. Yeah. But it probably still is. It's raining from the sky.

Jeff Nesbitt: It's in all the water. It's in the oceans. It's everywhere. I hear they're cleaning up the garbage patch though. That's pretty cool. The garbage patch. Yeah. The great Pacific garbage patch. It's huge. Yeah. They're cleaning it up little by little. It's basically it's own country at this point. Yeah. Where are they?

Jeff Nesbitt: It just brings all the trash over the boat. And you take lots

Brian Marteeny: of good pictures. Yeah. Like we're doing a great thing out here. Come check it out. But don't, don't come check it out. Just look at our pictures.

Jeff Nesbitt: Look at our, our Instagram feed.

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. See this. Check this. Real.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. That's the way it is though. Even the good shit, they're all carefully constructing their narrative.

Jeff Nesbitt: I realize it more doing the podcast because I don't want to do that. But if I don't, completely drops off. Like people just forget about you. There's so much shit to compete with in people's attention. If you don't construct a plan to make yourself in people's attention, awareness, they have no reason to know about you or think about you.

Brian Marteeny: You just even leaving a good review at a place that asked you for a good re a review and he's like, yeah, I'll do that. You did a good job. Mm-hmm. . And then you want to do it, but then you get sidetracked from everything else that's, do you do it eventually? Yeah,

Jeff Nesbitt: I did. I have a couple times, but it's really rare.

Brian Marteeny: I think people are more apt to

Jeff Nesbitt: leave a bad review. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Dick's have so much more energy Yeah. Than nice people.

Jeff Nesbitt: Probably. I'm sure there's Karen's out there doing good. In fact, I know many. I know many. There's, there's also people that are just angry. There's a Karen in particular that I know that makes very good jalapeno poppers, usually around Thanksgiving.

Jeff Nesbitt: She's probably making 'em like in the next couple days. Karen, shout out. I hope you hear this and I hope your poppers are delicious. I love poppers. They're good. These ones are not breaded. I made some last year in the smoker. Oh yeah. Tell me more.

Brian Marteeny: Wrapped 'em in bacon.

Jeff Nesbitt: Just let 'em smoke, man. Bacon, cream cheese and jingos.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah,

Brian Marteeny: but I put, um, the cream cheese mix. You throw your, whatever season you want to throw in there, everyone's a little different. And then you put chunks of bacon in that too, with

Jeff Nesbitt: other shredded cheese. That sounds really

Brian Marteeny: good. Yeah. I guess you could put sour cream if you want, but what kind of cheese? I don't know.

Jeff Nesbitt: The Mexican mix that, or probably something similar Mexican shredded. Yeah. That's actually surprisingly tasty cheese. I, I just don't like those antica powders they put in there. It it does, it makes it melt weird. I like, I like, but if you get it crispy,

Brian Marteeny: oh, if you throw your, the cheese in the pan and you get it super crispy, then you throw your tortilla on top of that.

Jeff Nesbitt: That's, I've started doing that with cheeseburgers. I, I had a handful of cheese, way more than can fit on the burger , and then it drips over the sides and then I let that crisp up. Yeah. And then there's an inch around the edge of the patty that is just like golden brown, crispy fried cheese.

Jeff Nesbitt: And I folded on top of the patty. Yep. And then scooped that bitch off and bun it up. I'm in burger heaven and I've usually been having, it's so fucking bad for you, but it's so tasty. Is it even bad for you if that's all you're eating? I think it's bad for you if you're also having a Coca-Cola with it and you're fucking having ice cream for dessert and Oh yeah.

Jeff Nesbitt: Uh, but yeah, no, I feel, I feel fine most of the time. Um, except for the chronic pain.

Brian Marteeny: But from the recent

Jeff Nesbitt: car accident. Yeah. That comes tomorrow, I think. Yeah. Or yeah, tomorrow while I'm trying to fall asleep, I'll be like, my neck is so fucking sore. What happened?

Brian Marteeny: Just drop her attack. Like, Hey, so my neck's starting to hurt.

Brian Marteeny: Do you want to handle

Jeff Nesbitt: this? Or I wonder if she's written me back, I'm gonna check.

Jeff Nesbitt: Of course

Brian Marteeny: not. Checks out. She's running.

Jeff Nesbitt: you know what's really funny? I sent Melissa a video of , me at the crash, like sh just basically, I took a little video to note, remember what happened, and yeah, this is where it happened. This is the car, blah, blah, blah. I sent that to her. So she had a picture of the car and she could see it.

Jeff Nesbitt: And I was like, all right, well I gotta go this way, so I'll see you later. Drive safe. And she went the other way. And then I got home. So both of those roads go by my house. Yeah. It's, it's a loop. And , she could have gone either direction, but the way I went is 10 minutes faster. when I got home, I like got my stuff unloaded and then my wife got home like 10 minutes later and, uh, she drove behind that car, like, and recognized the car.

Jeff Nesbitt: They saw it, her and the kids were driving and they saw the car and they're like, that's the car. And just randomly they followed it all the way from, uh, John. Not Johnson's landing, but the 1 0 1 alternate out to Chinook. So like Yeah. Small world. It was weird.

Brian Marteeny: Melissa, Melissa teaches kindergarten. Yeah.

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. That's, I did not know. That's cool.

Brian Marteeny: you gotta get all these little tiny personalities that are probably big personalities Yeah. To

Jeff Nesbitt: coincide and, and they've never really done it before.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. So it's the first time ever that they're having these expectations thrust on 'em. And some people just personality differences, some people respond really well to expectations and some people crumple under the pressure and that doesn't really change. Yeah. Throughout the lifespan. So there's, you know, some of the kids are very difficult, some of 'em are not.

Jeff Nesbitt: But she's, she's good at figuring out how to do it.

Brian Marteeny: You know, I, I have a hard time believing that you're poor when you were grown up. Why? I don't know. I just don't feel, I guess I didn't,

Jeff Nesbitt: I didn't look at Yeah, we were definitely poor .

Brian Marteeny: Uh, I remember I just figured you had a bunch of property and you're out there in that

Jeff Nesbitt: it was one ac.

Brian Marteeny: fantastic van.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. . Yeah. It was good.

Jeff Nesbitt: And it even, it had seat belts on most of the seats.

Jeff Nesbitt: Didn't you guys have a van too? Oh yeah. A GMC

Brian Marteeny: knows a Chevy. It's like three 50 with the same diff yeah. Sha carpet.

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh yeah. I think it was bad ass. Yeah, they had like a cabinet for drink, like a cocktail cabinet in it. Is that one of those ones?

Brian Marteeny: No, it did have a refrigerator in there and it had the dog house with the uh, uh, secret compartments.

Brian Marteeny: That's my grandpa's St. Staes of weed. Ah, .

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh yeah. I wonder how many of our parents back then were smoking weed secretly. A lot.

Jeff Nesbitt: I always, uh, thought I smelled like weed even when I didn't. I was very paranoid. I ,

Brian Marteeny: I hoped I didn't, I figured I didn't either smell like way too much cologne at eight

Jeff Nesbitt: 30 at night. You know, I, one thing I did not think about when I was a teenager, I assumed every adult was a fucking police informant.

Jeff Nesbitt: Every adult is out there looking to bust teenagers for getting high and getting drunk. It felt like it for a while. It really did. And, now that I am an adult, if I see some shit going down with teenagers, I'm looking the other way. It's like, I don't want this grief. I don't want any part of this. Nope. I I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna police the world.

Jeff Nesbitt: These kids are gonna get drunk some, one way or another they will find a way. And that part I do remember. Yeah, you will find a way. Yeah. and Yeah. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna stand in their way. It's not my place. I hope they don't do it. I, I'll try to set a good example with my own kids especially. But you're, apply for 'em.

Brian Marteeny: There's always that one older person that would always get

Jeff Nesbitt: alcohol for the younger people. Yeah. I was just saying that the other day. I've realized in my adulthood that most of the adults that we would befriend as children where? Fucking losers. Oh, AB

Brian Marteeny: fucking Lou thought we thought they were cool because they were doing the same thing we were doing.

Brian Marteeny: Like, oh, they're older and they're doing this. Yeah, they're cool. Yeah,

Jeff Nesbitt: exactly. They were not cool at all. No. They just didn't have friends that they could hang with or

Brian Marteeny: so they hung out with fucking Highschool. Kids. Kids,

Jeff Nesbitt: kids. It's fucking Wild man. Yeah. And you know, a lot of them, I don't know. Um, my, my mind is stuck on identifying predators right now because I don't know why, but I'm like, oh, why, what motivates that first

Brian Marteeny: dude?

Brian Marteeny: It's so easy. It's, I have a, almost like a sixth sense where I swear I, I can, you can look at someone and just fucking know that there's something

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah.

Brian Marteeny: Oh, well, even though we didn't know

Jeff Nesbitt: when we were growing up in school, I knew one, uh, I didn't know to the extent, but I always had a creepy vibe about bald one. Um, not that creepy vibe, but some kind of weird icky feeling from him. Yeah. I don't know what it was, a vibe and, but the other one was a complete shock.

Jeff Nesbitt: The younger one. I

Brian Marteeny: always thought he was like a cool, just a cool dude. Like he's

Jeff Nesbitt: super friendly and he was a great teacher, honestly. Yeah. that's what makes it all the more terrible is that it,

Brian Marteeny: he sucks because like, it's somewhat like you have to internalize like, am I angry? Like, why am I, I don't understand

Jeff Nesbitt: why it's confusing feeling.

Jeff Nesbitt: It really is. It really is.

Brian Marteeny: Because, because those memories that you have are not of this new person that you have this whole persona of Exactly. This moss. It has been created. I mean, could have been at the time, but we were just

Jeff Nesbitt: That old version is still in there. Yeah. I mean, people are complicated. Maybe he is still in there somewhere in the current version, but I don't really

Brian Marteeny: care. Do you think that's how Jeffrey Dahmer's

Jeff Nesbitt: dad felt? I don't know anything about Jeffrey. Dahmer, I avoid it because of the name thing.

Jeff Nesbitt: People are always, he's like the most famous Jeffrey, and so it just gets, oh, except that the giraffe from Toys R Us, he . Um, but it's him and Dahmer right at the top. Yeah. Uh, and then Gordon I think would be probably, what were we talking about? Famous Jeffries?

Jeff Nesbitt: Um, Dahmer, yeah. No, I don't know much about 'em,

Brian Marteeny: you didn't watch the Netflix

Jeff Nesbitt: series? No, I don't think I will. I don't wanna put darkness in my head. Just, I don't like, I don't wanna put myself in that frequency. Like, I don't watch horror movies.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. I put myself into the mental space of the characters to relate to the characters. I'm really good at it. So I can, I can relate to characters who are horrible people and I don't wanna relate to Jeffrey Dahmer. I don't wanna put myself in his shoes. I get that and try to figure out how he could have still been a good person and done those horrible things.

Jeff Nesbitt: I don't wanna do that. Yeah. And it just happens automatically. I try to see the better, the most favorable perspective. I try to pretend like, if I did this, what justification would I have had to use to make this okay in my head? Like, what rationalization did I tell myself? How, what trick did I, what trick of the devil did I use against myself to make me want to eat all them boys?

Jeff Nesbitt: You know?

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. But I think there was just something wrong with his brain. He was just

Brian Marteeny: brain making him think these conscious decisions are okay.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. That's,

Brian Marteeny: and these urges to, and I mean, it's just like people that are running the sex rings with the kids, dude, they have

Jeff Nesbitt: these urges.

Jeff Nesbitt: I don't know, it's just like, but to, okay, so what I'm saying, that's another example. It's just like, I don't wanna think about that shit too much because it's like I start trying to deconstruct it. I start trying to think of like, how does a society where it's okay to engage in these kind of horrific behaviors, victimizing.

Jeff Nesbitt: Weak small people, the weakest and the smallest. How is this able to form? Like how is there this much evil that can coalesce into an organization like that? How is that possible? Like, and, and it's, it gets really dark from there, man. It really does. Oh, then it's just a rabbit

Brian Marteeny: hole. Then you got people that are getting engaged cuz then you realize

Jeff Nesbitt: they're getting initiated into this cold.

Jeff Nesbitt: And that is like, a lot of doctors and actresses look very young. They do. I noticed that too. And I, I'm Sandra Bo,

Brian Marteeny: dude. She doesn't

Jeff Nesbitt: look like she's aged at all. Well she she's openly admitted it. There it is. . For skin. Serum, serum made out of, uh, fetal for skins, or not fetal, but uh, neonatal for skin.

Jeff Nesbitt: So like they're chopping off these baby dicks. Just a piece, just a little tip. And then, uh, looking it on over to Sandra and she's making a tincture out of it and dripping it on her. For the firmness. Supposedly he's got a lot of, uh, stem cells and collagen, all that, which I'm sure it does. Oh yeah. I mean, it's, that's some very good skin.

Jeff Nesbitt: I don't know. You don't have a dick preference, huh? I don't

Brian Marteeny: like, I don't really know. Never even thought about it. Well, think

Jeff Nesbitt: about it now. I think, I think I would, uh, I'd keep it the way it is now. I think I would let it, I, I'd go back to the long cut. The long cut, yeah.

Brian Marteeny: Say there's more

Jeff Nesbitt: sensitivity. I think that, I think that that could be true.

Jeff Nesbitt: I think that could be true.

Brian Marteeny: I mean, why do they do it anyways? They say

Jeff Nesbitt: cleanliness. But I mean that's, that's definitely just somebody, who needed a reason, because they were taught to do it that way by someone religious. And that's just how they do it. That's what I think this is like, well, yeah.

Brian Marteeny: See, they put this little like plastic apparatus on. On the baby, and it

Jeff Nesbitt: just, I'm not familiar with the process. I've got two boys and they both were okay.

Jeff Nesbitt: Eight after eight days is Did you do it like that? I don't remember. I don't know if that's just religious or if that's everybody. I don't think there's a

Brian Marteeny: timeline. If

Jeff Nesbitt: there is

Brian Marteeny: with Oh yeah. For, for

Jeff Nesbitt: that. I think it's on the eighth day. I'm pretty sure there's a timeline regardless, but Yeah. Well, that's what I mean.

Jeff Nesbitt: Like, I don't know. Some of that stuff does fall through the Krats and you just, it becomes standard practice and it's like, wait, why are we doing this? Yeah. And I think that's one of those things,

Brian Marteeny: people think it's like, it's a normal practice, but only this country.

Brian Marteeny: If you doc, uh, dogs, ears, what's, what's the difference there?

Jeff Nesbitt: They're both puppies, they don't hear as well. Yeah. . Um, they're also harder to beat in a fight. Yeah. Less handle. That's why they do that, right? Yeah. Well, I mean, that's where it came from. Yeah. And now it's really like a show dog thing. Yeah. Make it look more

Brian Marteeny: But I'm saying, doing something like this, they're essentially mutilating. Yeah. Against

Jeff Nesbitt: the will. Yeah. So, and it's funny too, because people can be , such relativists when it comes to female, well they used to call it female circumcision. Now they call it female genital mutilation. But the culture is where they.

Jeff Nesbitt: Like, remove the clitoris or sew it shut or make it so that females are unable to experience pleasure through sex and it's always painful. Just as a way to, uh, well, I mean it's, they pass it off as a cultural practice that the women are excited about. Cuz it, it's like you're transitioning into womanhood.

Jeff Nesbitt: It's your bot mitzvah, but it's like, so your vagina shut. Um, so it's a,

Brian Marteeny: it's a, you do

Jeff Nesbitt: that in the Jewish community? No, no. I don't know what communities they do it in. We said bar mitzvah, so, . It's like analogy, okay an analogy. It's the, it's like their, it's our female coming of age thing.

Jeff Nesbitt: Just leave it alone. Yeah, just live and let live. Don't be sniffing dicks, right? Yeah, Do these Costco pants. They're the best.

Brian Marteeny: I looked at 'em. Oh, I, I got some Costco pants. They're the, uh, the sweat pant, like work pant.

Jeff Nesbitt: They're rubber the eyes on, they're, it's rubberized on the inside. What it does, it's like they don't fall down. It's like the, it's the material that they make wide receiver gloves out of.

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, gotcha. It's like that really grippy plastic.

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. These pants I got. They look like sweatpants, but they're like

Jeff Nesbitt: waterproof. Oh, nice.

Brian Marteeny: And, uh, they're really durable. I mean, I had my knee on the wet ground and I was like, oh, I should probably stop this. My knees gonna get wet, and I don't like to have wet knees.

Brian Marteeny: And, uh, lo and behold, my, my knee was

Brian Marteeny: Well, I feel like we don't see each other so often than when we do. I know. A

Jeff Nesbitt: formal setting. I know. It's, it's, everything gets unloaded quick. Yeah. If we had six hours to hang out, we could fill it. Oh yeah. The entire time without problem. Like the first four would just be like catching up and then we could get into new territory after that.

Jeff Nesbitt: It really, it does happen though, like, , anyone? I don't see more than a once or twice every couple years. Like I, we probably see, I've probably seen you once a year. Twice a year. Yeah. Since, since we both lived in the area and we

Brian Marteeny: don't live that far apart.

Jeff Nesbitt: It's only 20 minutes. Yeah. I don't see anybody really.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. You know, that's something we should talk about loneliness and, and contemporary friendships in adulthood. I think a lot of people really don't have any friends. I think that it's extremely common. I have a couple and I feel like I'm blessed to have them. Same

Brian Marteeny: You're busy all the time and you have to divide

Jeff Nesbitt: your time equally. Yeah. It makes it to where you don't even really want to have friends. Cause it's just like, well, if I do have free time, I'm gonna go hang out with some fucking stranger. Yeah. I'm gonna hang out with somebody I already know. Yep. Cause you don't want to try something that's gonna be exhausting or like have to put yourself out there.

Jeff Nesbitt: But I think this is gonna be a problem. , Dr. Phil says that we're the loneliest generation. It's . He says millennials don't have any friends, they're losers and he's kind. Right. Got online friends. Mister

Followers, aren't friends.

Jeff Nesbitt: Followers are not friends. Yeah. Uh, that's

Brian Marteeny: literally remember the MSN days? Oh yeah. Everyone would race home.

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. Get on their computer and sit there and chat.

Jeff Nesbitt: That was fun. Yeah. That was exhilarating. Actually. I loved it. It was MSN Messenger. Yep. That was the first quick messenger that I remember using. Why are we

Brian Marteeny: sitting on our fucking computers?

Jeff Nesbitt: All the time. So you only chat when you have something to chat about. Yeah. But you were like, we were like coming up with shit to say . It was scraping the bottom of the barrel sometimes. Good stuff though. That's where a lot of the early codes came, came in like G two G. That's MSN Messenger. Shit. Maybe even I cq, I don't really know.

Jeff Nesbitt: I was too young. Or aol. Did you ever AOL Messenger? Yep. That was for grownups. It, we had it, but it was boring. I could never find any friends. I, I did, I did. That was like the first place I ever talked to strangers on the internet was AOL Messenger.

Brian Marteeny: I think I always talked to people from California

Jeff Nesbitt: on aol.

Jeff Nesbitt: SoCal down. My cousins had some friends down there. I talked to them. That's the cradle of the internet era. Silicon Valley. Yep. I remember the first time I saw a, uh, digital photo editing software in action. I have forgotten how groundbreaking that was, but that was huge.

Brian Marteeny: No Photoshop. No. No. Photoshop photo editing apps.

Jeff Nesbitt: No digital photos. Yeah. There, like to get a photo on a computer, you had to have the photo somehow scanned into a computer and then that pixelated bullshit will go on into HTML or whatever code and um, take 15 minutes to get on the screen.

Jeff Nesbitt: It was never worth it. There was like, digital is nothing. And then

Brian Marteeny: if you wanna print it out, then it's even worse. Crap.

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh yeah. It was, it was just not, we weren't there yet. But my uncle had a computer and he took a family picture of my family and like our actual professional family picture and he somehow, oh he had a scanner.

Jeff Nesbitt: But techies have always come like from all walks of life it seems like. Cuz you, you never know who's gonna get interested in that shit. It's kind of niche, programming and engineering and all that stuff. A lot of weirdos.

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. A lot of people like the

Jeff Nesbitt: solitude. Yeah. Um, people of the night. Creatures of the night.

Jeff Nesbitt: That's

Brian Marteeny: why we're so lonely, man. Maybe it's, it's cuz uh, everyone was

Jeff Nesbitt: online rushing back to get on MSN Messenger. Yep.

Brian Marteeny: And then you think that you have all these friends

Jeff Nesbitt: and they're, none of them are gonna help you move. You need to ride to the airport. Call fucking Uber. Yeah. They don't give a fuck.

Jeff Nesbitt: Actually don't call an Uber cuz they don't want your phone call. Just get on the app.

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. I mean even Uber and Lyft, that's

Jeff Nesbitt: pretty much a friend. Yeah. They're friendly.

Brian Marteeny: If not, they're not getting five stars. .

Jeff Nesbitt: or two. You take a lot of lifts. I don't. I only do when I'm on vacation and I love it. I used to drive on vacation and it ruined vacations. You don't get to get drunk if you gotta drive everyone around all the time. It's less responsibility. Yeah. That's always good on vacation. That's the whole point. Yep.

Brian Marteeny: We're going take a mini vacation for Christmas. Where are you going? I don't know yet. We're just gonna probably go to Airbnb somewhere and do a little

Jeff Nesbitt: mini just to getaway. Yeah. Mount Hood is fun.

Brian Marteeny: We were thinking about that. And maybe go, I don't know, but

Jeff Nesbitt: there's some cool shit up there. Yeah. Haven't

Brian Marteeny: decided yet.

Brian Marteeny: Yeah, probably should

Jeff Nesbitt: soon. It's getting close. It really is. You're gonna get booked out of uh, options. Yeah. In fact, you should probably check like right when you leave. Yeah. Uh, it's Thanksgiving. Yeah. It's tomorrow Or is it

Jeff Nesbitt: For Thanksgiving?

Brian Marteeny: Yeah, for the girlfriend's family. Nice. Apparently, um, this is a first for her mom, like inviting a

Jeff Nesbitt: significant other over for her. Bringing you. Yeah. Oh, it's a big deal. Well, that's cool. Have you met the mom before? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

Brian Marteeny: I met her family, the majority of her family had an unfortunate circumstance.

Brian Marteeny: Her grandfather passing away, so they had a really cool memorial service that he was in the military and they, uh, I mean he was definitely buried with honored.

Jeff Nesbitt: That's cool. Yeah. They had the firing,

Brian Marteeny: what do they call it? They didn't, no, they didn't have a firing squad or not firing squad Seems like a waste of bullets.

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. But they had two, uh, two guys that were there and they were very just on point with every single movement and the way they folded the

Jeff Nesbitt: flag. And I find that scary. Like how robotic they are? Yeah, like a little bit like, ah,

Jeff Nesbitt: To keep them. I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. They, it's, it's definitely intimidating. It's, it's effective. It's just because it does seem very thoughtless. I think that's, you know what? In the military? No, no, I really don't. Do you? I mean some, yeah, I know some. Most of them are former though, and those are not the same.

Brian Marteeny: yeah, I don't really, I don't know anyone that's in the active military unless you go out Coast Guard, then I can't really even, I can't even think of anybody that I know that's in

Jeff Nesbitt: the Coast Guard right now. Veterans are cool, man. They're a lot cooler than active military. Those guys are kind of dicks.

Brian Marteeny: Do you think they feel like they're better than everyone else because they're not technically a

Jeff Nesbitt: civilian? They are better. They're like, technically, like they're physically better. That's why they worked hard to earn it.

Jeff Nesbitt: So I get it. I do get it. But, and they have to, they just can't think like a civilian. Yeah. Um, so they have

Brian Marteeny: to be that, they have that mindset that's stronger. You're better than the

Jeff Nesbitt: Immediately I'm turned off to the idea, but I see the value in it and I, and I think we need those people. Oh, absolutely. But yeah, they intimidate me. Uh, I, cuz I don't know how to just be, I don't know how to relax around 'em cuz I'm like, shit, I have a tendency to mirror people. So I, I I match their energy and I, and I kind of Do you have any,

Brian Marteeny: uh, friends that you, I mean, you said you don't have any friends anyways.

Brian Marteeny: I shouldn't ask. I got a couple , whatever, dude. Do you have any friends that are, uh, police officers? Yeah,

Jeff Nesbitt: but we don't hang out. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Would it be awkward? Yeah, I think so. I think so. I mean, I wanna do some crimes every once in a

Brian Marteeny: while, you know? Yeah. I just want, it's not that I wanna do crime, it's just I wanna be ready to do crime.

Brian Marteeny: That's an opportunity

Jeff Nesbitt: and a need. Yeah. You know, I gotta be open-minded crime wise. Um,

Brian Marteeny: and

Jeff Nesbitt: gotta keep your books open. That's right. That's right. You never know. You don't wanna commit too much to,

Jeff Nesbitt: nobody saw, this is all being said in jest, obviously.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Uh, we are law abiding good, good citizens. and I'm ha and I like that life. I love it. I don't want it to be doing crimes, but, um, I've done crime. I've done crimes. I'm not saying I haven't done them, I'm just saying I don't want to be doing them. And, uh, but I'm not currently doing any crime or me neither.

Jeff Nesbitt: Me neither. if the, that being said, if you're out there doing crime, if you're not hurting anybody, not even a single human being, and, uh, you're never gonna get caught.

Brian Marteeny: Fucking do it. Do it .

Jeff Nesbitt: Uh, if it's just gonna make your day a little bit better and not gonna make anyone, it's not gonna hurt anybody.

Jeff Nesbitt: Can you steal from them? if you're really poor What's a free slushy? Seven Eleven's not hurting for it. Oh, absolutely. If you do it, if

Brian Marteeny: you steal ethically, of course. I mean that. And that's adding to the cause anyways. Cuz they don't deserve that money, so they might as well have everything taken from them.

Jeff Nesbitt: Maybe just spread it around a little bit better.

Jeff Nesbitt: Guys. Target Walmart, share the wealth. It's literally, it's still booming. I think so. I feel like they're on the downfall. Are

Brian Marteeny: they? How or is

Jeff Nesbitt: that Kmart? They're all those companies are owned by like three dudes. Yeah, it doesn't matter.

Brian Marteeny: Do you think there should be a cutoff for how much money someone can have?

Jeff Nesbitt: No, but I, but I do. Uh, I like the sentiment, but I think that would cause problems. I think that would limit growth because people would

Brian Marteeny: reach, do you think there's, they would reach that level. You think there's a necessity for someone to have billions of dollars while someone

Jeff Nesbitt: else is starving? No, absolutely no necessity.

Jeff Nesbitt: so like war times, the times leading up to wars, that's a lot of shit gets invented. A lot of like, technology just improves because we need it to survive. And I think that that is kind of, The Wild west mentality of what it is to be American. You need to be able to shoot for the stars, even if the people who actually succeed then become like these fucking monsters that we all hate

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. It's complicated, but we're not gonna solve these problems today.

Brian Marteeny: What was the last thing invented? The last biggest impact?

Jeff Nesbitt: It's really cool technology. I think it's a really amazing invention. Just the blockchain, having a blockchain. What do you think is the coolest recent invention? Massage gun. That's another one. You have one of those? I don't, dude, get yourself a

Brian Marteeny: massage gun. I saw my Costco. I almost

Jeff Nesbitt: picked one up. Those are good ones.

Jeff Nesbitt: I have the big one and the small one. Nice. The small one's better. Yeah. It has variable pressure. If you push harder, like really lean into it, it like tries to match you instead of just pushing out like a little bitch. Like the other one. No, a little bitch ass motor. Yeah, they're brushless. They're almost silent.

Jeff Nesbitt: Oh wow. The, the, the little, like the smaller one, which is fully just as powerful as the big one sounds literally like a cat purring. You would love it.

Brian Marteeny: I had a guy at my work that would, uh, bring it in and he was like 56 years old, but he'd lift weights every single day. It was just his regimen and he was recovering alcoholics.

Brian Marteeny: So that was his,

Jeff Nesbitt: his new

Jeff Nesbitt: What else is there? Oh, you know what? One more thing, last thing before we go. Um, did you see this rise of seltzer water? That shit our grandmas were drinking when we were kids? Nobody drank that shit. Talking rain. Do you remember talking rain? Mm-hmm. , of course not because it was gross. Yeah. Um, seltzer water, all of a sudden, LaCroix and bubbly and all these companies.

Jeff Nesbitt: Huge. What is the deal? Where did this come from? How do you explain this? Millennials,

Brian Marteeny: That's probably what it is, but it doesn't, most of it does not taste good. It tastes like your leg fell asleep.

Jeff Nesbitt: that's a

Brian Marteeny: great, that's. There is some out there that does taste

Jeff Nesbitt: good, some taste better than others. Um, stuff that tastes cheap. I don't like No, that Waterloo bullshit. Yeah. Mm-hmm. , but actual LaCroix is pretty decent. And then that one that they just have the juice in. It's pretty good, but the kids don't like it.

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. That's sparkling. Yeah. It's induc not water. Sorry man.

Jeff Nesbitt: I really fucked that up. It's all right, man. I'll cut it out. No one will know that. You don't know your s

Brian Marteeny: fuck. I just drank them the other day too. You have those, uh, blue monkeys? No. What's that?

Brian Marteeny: It's like, it's a very similar item. Hmm. Also found in Costco.

Jeff Nesbitt: I love drinks. I usually will have at least two drinks. I

Brian Marteeny: think I fucking Costco

Jeff Nesbitt: representative. What the, I don't know if I've ever not talked about Costco in an episode of this podcast. . I love Costco.

Brian Marteeny: You should reach out to them like, Hey, so I promote you guys

Jeff Nesbitt: all the time.

Jeff Nesbitt: They don't care. They don't need me. They just, they they need you. Nah. Collectively they don't need me. That's sad. I know. It really is. Cuz I need them. Yeah. It's a one-sided relationship with Costco.

Brian Marteeny: Do you ever cost stuff? Do I what? See if it cost items that you're buying at Costco. Compared if you're gonna buy it somewhere else.

Brian Marteeny: Never Just trust their judgment

Brian Marteeny: sliced at a time.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. No, I, I don't and I, and I should because I've, I've wasted food from Costco more than. I have two. I think it's common. I mean, how many of those fucking giant Caesar salads have been thrown in the garbage? Because no one ate 'em.

Jeff Nesbitt: Ever even got, they never even

Brian Marteeny: got open put in the fridge. And then it's like, that's a cool idea. Then a couple days go by, that's still good. I'm just not gonna get it right now. And a

Jeff Nesbitt: couple days later, little slimy, but it's still edible and then it's in there for another few days. Yeah. I left one in there for two weeks and it was actually fine.

Jeff Nesbitt: There was like, so this is what was weirding me out about it, is it would be, uh, most of the lettuce and spin it. Everything was just totally fine. Looked like it hadn't rotted at all. Yeah. But then you just find this random, completely fucking rotted, slimy black smear in there. That was like a piece that did for some reason rot.

Brian Marteeny: garden? I do. Oh. Then why are you buying

Jeff Nesbitt: Costco salad? Why are you making an assumptions about my gardening life?

Brian Marteeny: Um, what kind of stuff are you growing?

Jeff Nesbitt: What you got going on right now? I don't have a garden, man. Oh, you got me nailed. Uh, we did, but we let it go.

Brian Marteeny: It's a lot of attention. Yeah, dude. Especially

Jeff Nesbitt: with this goddamn climate

Brian Marteeny: change. Yeah. I was like, ah, these are gonna be great. I mean, we got a lot of squash and some zucchini, but,

Jeff Nesbitt: um, those are the only ones that don't die.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. We got tons

Brian Marteeny: dude. We got

Jeff Nesbitt: tons of pumpkins. Anybody need a pumpkin? You know who to call? Yep. But you know, tomatoes, peas, lettuce, all that shit died. It's just, uh, the sun just zaps it.

Brian Marteeny: That sucks. Yeah. I called him up cuz we were, my girlfriend wanted to get Christmas treat a little bit early. I was like, right, whatever. Fuck it. Let's go y'all, let's go in there and do it. Uh, calling around it was a really sad conversation to had with a guy. Yeah. He had to tell me that he, uh, he lost all his, his farm.

Brian Marteeny: Cause he got burned

Jeff Nesbitt: up by the son. Was it the one in Oregon? Like Yeah, there was, it was one over there in Oregon by like losing Clark maybe. I

Brian Marteeny: think. Wasn't that one out on 2 0 2? I don't know.

Jeff Nesbitt: Somewhere out there. Yeah. I bet it was

Brian Marteeny: the same one still. Yeah. It was really sad to talk

Jeff Nesbitt: to someone that they were younger.

Jeff Nesbitt: If it's the one I'm thinking about, they were younger trees that weren't very full so they could easily get zapped. Yeah. Like those thick ass trees. Like the ones out in Nema, those aren't gonna get zapped. They're, the base of those is like 12 inches thick. But thick boys, they are too thick. I can't, I mean it doesn't fit in the.

Brian Marteeny: Isn't a pleasant surprise master.

Brian Marteeny: Are

Jeff Nesbitt: you teaching your kids about Santa? Uh, yeah. You do this whole Santa thing. Well, I mean, I guess that's a weird question. Everybody does it. I didn't get taught that, so I'd find it. So it's like an option to me. .

Brian Marteeny: You didn't know there was Santa Claus

Jeff Nesbitt: growing up. No, I knew there wasn't. Oh. So I knew of him.

Jeff Nesbitt: I knew that he was this pagan symbol that everybody was worshiping on Jesus' birthday. But no, I didn't know that he was supposed to be bringing me gifts all this time

Jeff Nesbitt: to climb out later. Uh, what time to collect? Yeah. We've come to terms with the idea that Santa is real in certain ways. I love the, I I like the idea of it now. Yeah. We, it's the magic, um, it's collective magic. Yeah. The spirit of Christmas. Yeah. It really is. And um, that's

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. That it's just that joy is gone out of their

Jeff Nesbitt: life. Yeah. It is, it's, it's like magic. It's cool. It is. It's a very special thing. And it goes away for it like dwindles through childhood and you feel less and less every year. Yep. And, and it's sad. And then like when

Brian Marteeny: your toys stop being

Jeff Nesbitt: fun to play with.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. You stop being, you stop caring, you stop thinking of anything you actually even want. And it's just like, um, life just gets different. But then you have kids and all of a sudden the magic's back and now you're generating it and it's special again. You do elf on the shelf.

Brian Marteeny: We were thinking about it.

Jeff Nesbitt: Dude, is it worth it? So fucking worth it. My kids think it's the very best part of Christmas. My kids think it's the best part of Christmas. Christmas Now I can cut that out. What was that? Your phone? Yeah. Right. But yeah, it's, it's fun. And I, I get two elves on the shelf. Um, it started as like one for each kid.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. It's like 12 inches tall noodle arms, basically. Yeah. So you can not girthy. Not girthy, not rigid. You can't really get it into positions that are. Truly hilarious. Uh, you can hint at things, but you know, you just can't get that far. It's more passive aggressive than anything. Exactly. It's not lifelike.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. So I bought these kits where you, uh, tear the stitches and insert wire wires into the arms and legs of these little guys and then sew it back up . So now he's fully adjustable and uh, I just bought a second to go with it. So this year I'm gonna have two fully adjustable ones. Last year it was, it'll actually last several years.

Brian Marteeny: didn't have Santa Claus as you motherfucker.

Brian Marteeny: What? Give me this.

Jeff Nesbitt: And, uh, it's fun. It's a lot of fun. Um, and also then the el on the shelf bombs out Christmas day, so then it's just like done. It's fucking awesome. You, I highly recommend. In fact, I have a brand new one still in the packaging that I will give you to take with you as a gift tonight. I appreciate that.

Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Uh, let me run into the house and grab it, which is actually kind of funny that I have one that's still in the packaging. Um, but your kids will love it, man. Oh yeah. It's a lot of fun. All right, let's wrap this thing up. All right. Thank you so much for being here. This is a lot of fun.

Brian Marteeny: Yeah. It's good to see you.

Brian Marteeny: Um, finally

Jeff Nesbitt: got back over here. You too, man. Yeah. Um, talk to you next time. Thank you everybody for listening, and we'll talk to you later. Bye.