What if the real reason dating feels awkward or frustrating right now has nothing to do with your age, your looks, or your past, but everything to do with how you flirt?
In this episode, you’re invited into a thought-provoking conversation with Kimmy Seltzer that challenges outdated beliefs about confidence, attraction, and modern dating strategies. You’ll get a sneak peek into why flirting fades over time, how it quietly impacts attraction, and what most men get wrong when getting back into dating. If you’ve ever felt out of practice, unsure where to start, or curious about what really creates chemistry today, this episode will open your eyes.
Tune in now and discover how a simple shift in how you flirt could change your entire dating experience.
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About Kimmy Seltzer
Kimmy Seltzer is a Confidence Therapist, Authentic Dating Strategist, and Image Expert who helps people transform how they show up in dating, relationships, and life. With a background as a licensed therapist, certified style coach, dating coach, and matchmaker, Kimmy has helped countless men and women attract lasting love and deeper connection through her unique “confidence makeover” process.
Known for her outside-in approach and her signature framework, The Charisma Quotient, she blends style, emotional intelligence, social skills, body language, first impressions, and flirting to create real, lasting confidence. Kimmy’s work is deeply personal, shaped by her own life transformation, and grounded in the belief that confidence grows fastest through action, experience, and being seen.
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This podcast is for you, the Modern Man. I'm Dr Anne
Anne Truong:Truong, your host. I'm an intimate health medical doctor
Anne Truong:and best selling author of the book, Erectile Dysfunction Fix.
Anne Truong:I'll do a deep dive into sexual health and performance and how
Anne Truong:it affects men of all ages and backgrounds. So let's get
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Anne Truong:resources from the show. See you on the inside.
Anne Truong:Hello there, Modern Man. Do you flirt? Do you really want to
Anne Truong:know how to flirt confidently? Well, I have Kimmy Seltzer. She
Anne Truong:is the confidence therapist, authentic dating strategist and
Anne Truong:image expert who helps singles transform their life from the
Anne Truong:outside in. Don't worry, we'll talk what that is. But she's
Anne Truong:also a TEDx speaker, she's been on national matchmaking
Anne Truong:conferences and on eHarmony and Neutrogena. So this woman knows
Anne Truong:what she's talking about. She's also a coach, but she's also a
Anne Truong:dating strategist. I'm excited to have Kimmy on our podcast
Anne Truong:today to share her wisdom. So welcome, Kimmy.
Kimmy Seltzer:Thank you. Thank you for having me. I'm super
Kimmy Seltzer:excited about this conversation.
Anne Truong:Oh, definitely. Let's dive into this. So what
Anne Truong:does it mean by outside in? Give us the definition.
Kimmy Seltzer:Well, it's funny because, I mean, when you hear
Kimmy Seltzer:it, it sounds "Oh, it's so superficial. Aren't we supposed
Kimmy Seltzer:to work from the inside out?" And look, I'm a therapist. I'm a
Kimmy Seltzer:trained therapist. So I did for many, many years, until I got
Kimmy Seltzer:into the coaching space. And the truth of the matter is, up until
Kimmy Seltzer:my own hot mess story, which I'll share just a little bit
Kimmy Seltzer:about too. Because while I have this great professional
Kimmy Seltzer:background, the reason why I'm so passionate about doing what I
Kimmy Seltzer:do is because of my own story, my own transformation, I think a
Kimmy Seltzer:lot of people will relate to it. I used to work from the inside
Kimmy Seltzer:out, like I believe that you had to do the work and really break
Kimmy Seltzer:patterns and look at your childhood and all that in order
Kimmy Seltzer:to move forward in your life. And I still believe that. So
Kimmy Seltzer:hear me out. But I think there comes a time and a place,
Kimmy Seltzer:especially in the dating world, where the outside is often
Kimmy Seltzer:overlooked, so you can do the inside job to the cows come
Kimmy Seltzer:home, and you could rock in a rocking chair and listen to
Kimmy Seltzer:podcasts and read all these books. But are you flirting?
Kimmy Seltzer:What are you wearing? How are you marketing yourself to
Kimmy Seltzer:attract love? So it's not changing who you are, it's
Kimmy Seltzer:marketing yourself so that somebody gets to know who you
Kimmy Seltzer:are. So quick story on me and where that came from is I was
Kimmy Seltzer:this kind of good girl from Chicago. Any Midwest people out
Kimmy Seltzer:there will understand the story and that I lived a very
Kimmy Seltzer:traditional life. I practiced as a therapist for over 10 years. I
Kimmy Seltzer:was married. I had the picket fence. I had two kids, the dog,
Kimmy Seltzer:the husband. I still have the kids, by the way, but you see
Kimmy Seltzer:where the story is going. And so there, there I was, and we just
Kimmy Seltzer:all picked up, and we moved across the country, and we plop
Kimmy Seltzer:ourselves down into this place called Los Angeles, La La Land.
Kimmy Seltzer:And that's where I am now. And it was almost as if, as soon as
Kimmy Seltzer:we got here, that's where the record stopped. I joke we, we
Kimmy Seltzer:did what all the other people did, we end up getting a
Kimmy Seltzer:divorce. I like to blame LA, you see, but I, I would have been
Kimmy Seltzer:here anyway, 100% it just sped up the process being in a new
Kimmy Seltzer:land, and there I was all alone, not knowing what to do with my
Kimmy Seltzer:new life, my new career, I'm a mom with young kids with no
Kimmy Seltzer:resources or support system. And I was like, Oh my God. Like,
Kimmy Seltzer:talk about that rock bottom moment. And then I'm a therapist
Kimmy Seltzer:on top of it. How horrible like I I was like, wait, I should
Kimmy Seltzer:know how to help myself. And also, I almost slipped into this
Kimmy Seltzer:thing called analysis paralysis, because this is where the
Kimmy Seltzer:outside in thing all happened because I did what I taught and
Kimmy Seltzer:I preached, I did the work like I went to therapy, I sought out
Kimmy Seltzer:my friends for support, and it was all really super helpful.
Kimmy Seltzer:But then time went on and, like, six months to eight months
Kimmy Seltzer:later, people were like, Kimmy, maybe you should just, like, get
Kimmy Seltzer:out there and just maybe start talking to men. And I said, No,
Kimmy Seltzer:not ready. I'm doing the work. Okay, fine. A year later, Kimmy,
Kimmy Seltzer:okay, I think it's time to get out there. I'm like, No, I'm
Kimmy Seltzer:still doing the work. Well, what was I doing? Literally, I was
Kimmy Seltzer:just in this, like, cerebral space, right? Like, trying to
Kimmy Seltzer:understand dating and all that. But I wasn't taking action. And
Kimmy Seltzer:so one day, and this is where it all happened, I literally woke
Kimmy Seltzer:up. I don't know what possessed me to just I took a hard look in
Kimmy Seltzer:the mirror, and I was just horrified at what I saw. I mean,
Kimmy Seltzer:I I did not look like this. I was not wearing red. I was
Kimmy Seltzer:always wearing black, oversized clothes, and my confidence was
Kimmy Seltzer:shocked. And I look in the mirror, and I just, I looked
Kimmy Seltzer:horrible. I was still wearing my nursing bras. I wasn't even
Kimmy Seltzer:nursing any longer. I was like, Oh my God. Like, I am stuck. I
Kimmy Seltzer:am completely stuck. So the first thing I did to get me out
Kimmy Seltzer:of this funk, I caught my dark period, my black period, because
Kimmy Seltzer:that's all I wore, was black. I went shopping, shopping therapy,
Kimmy Seltzer:and I go to the store, and I think I'm up leveling myself,
Kimmy Seltzer:but I'm putting all these black clothes in my cart, and I'm
Kimmy Seltzer:doing the same darn thing that I always do. I'm like, collecting
Kimmy Seltzer:black and this personal shopper, she comes up to me and she says,
Kimmy Seltzer:Ma'am, I've been watching you, and I really think you should
Kimmy Seltzer:try this on. And she holds up this red dress that looks like
Kimmy Seltzer:three times too small because I lost all this weight too. I was
Kimmy Seltzer:totally stressed out. And she said, Try this on. I said,
Kimmy Seltzer:That's really sweet of you, but that's not my size, and that's
Kimmy Seltzer:really not my color. She says, Honey, that is your size. That
Kimmy Seltzer:is your color. Try it on. Boom, like that. She hit me over the
Kimmy Seltzer:head with that red dress. I'm like, wow, she's right. Like,
Kimmy Seltzer:all this internal stuff isn't working. I need to, like, do
Kimmy Seltzer:something. So I grabbed the dress, I slip into it, I twirl
Kimmy Seltzer:around, like Cinderella, and I look in the mirror, and I was
Kimmy Seltzer:like, oh my god, I'm a princess. Like, it was that Disney moment.
Kimmy Seltzer:And I like, Wow, I feel different. I'm seeing myself
Kimmy Seltzer:different. It was this like visceral response in my body.
Kimmy Seltzer:And so I go out into the world and I wear this dress, and I
Kimmy Seltzer:just practice being in this dress. This is where the whole
Kimmy Seltzer:thing started. And I realized, oh my gosh, this whole time, I
Kimmy Seltzer:was wearing the black clothes as a cloak to keep me invisible
Kimmy Seltzer:from men, because I was scared of being seen. This is where it
Kimmy Seltzer:all started, like I need to market myself. So I just had to
Kimmy Seltzer:get used to being seen, knowing that I was sexy, knowing that I
Kimmy Seltzer:was worthy. I had to learn how to flirt all over again. I mean,
Kimmy Seltzer:the last time I flirted was in college. I didn't know how to
Kimmy Seltzer:talk to the alien men. So that's where everything shifted. And I
Kimmy Seltzer:realized that there was a symbiotic relationship between
Kimmy Seltzer:the outside and the inside when it comes to confidence, that
Kimmy Seltzer:it's not a superficial thing to think about how we carry
Kimmy Seltzer:ourselves. Our energy is just as important as the inside. So
Kimmy Seltzer:that's where my business was born. And then I started doing
Kimmy Seltzer:styling on other people and using the coaching with my
Kimmy Seltzer:therapy, and now I have this holistic approach and helping
Kimmy Seltzer:people
Anne Truong:Well, that's awesome. I love that personal
Anne Truong:journey, and I think a lot of men and women will identify with
Anne Truong:that, right, because it's almost like reinvention of your life.
Anne Truong:And I think that from a man's perspective, and oftentimes, a
Anne Truong:lot of my men are divorced or a widower, they're like, they
Anne Truong:haven't been on the dating scene for decades, and now find
Anne Truong:themselves "Okay, well, I need to do that." And let's talk
Anne Truong:about the number one mistake that men make when they flirt,
Anne Truong:and what should they be doing? So give us a little 101 Course.
Anne Truong:These men who hasn't dated in 20 years, maybe even more. What
Anne Truong:they need to start paying attention, what's the mistake
Anne Truong:they make and what they should be doing.
Kimmy Seltzer:Wait, I can only say one. There's Okay, no, I
Kimmy Seltzer:will. Well, first of all, I do flirt workshops, and happy to
Kimmy Seltzer:share that with your audience as well, because I have one coming
Kimmy Seltzer:up, and I do dating retreats, and they're always co Ed. And
Kimmy Seltzer:the funniest thing about flirting is that I ask all the
Kimmy Seltzer:time, like, what's your definition of flirting? Like,
Kimmy Seltzer:that's the first thing, first mistake, is that people have a
Kimmy Seltzer:very interesting definition of what flirting is all about. But
Kimmy Seltzer:what I share with people is like, when you look in the
Kimmy Seltzer:dictionary and you see how it's defined, it says to behave as
Kimmy Seltzer:though you are attracted to someone without the serious
Kimmy Seltzer:intention of an outcome. Now that last part attached to the
Kimmy Seltzer:outcome is what trips everyone up, and I would say is the
Kimmy Seltzer:number one mistake. So everyone has these like, fears and
Kimmy Seltzer:excuses about what's next. Like, oh, I don't know what to say,
Kimmy Seltzer:or, Oh, I don't want to come across as creepy. They get in
Kimmy Seltzer:their head about it, oh, what's a line? Oh, I haven't dated in X
Kimmy Seltzer:amount of years. Like, there's all this like monkey chatter
Kimmy Seltzer:happening on how they're coming across. And so guys really worry
Kimmy Seltzer:about the approach, and so then what happens is that they
Kimmy Seltzer:hesitate. And I know you and I talked about that on our podcast
Kimmy Seltzer:too, but this is how I see it in application the real world with
Kimmy Seltzer:flirting. And here's the oxymoron of it all, is that in
Kimmy Seltzer:efforts to not wanting to be creepy, they end up being creepy
Kimmy Seltzer:because they're hesitating right like no woman wants a guy just
Kimmy Seltzer:staring at them without any kind of just fluid type of, like just
Kimmy Seltzer:response. And I tell people, guys, just jump, just go at it
Kimmy Seltzer:doesn't matter. It doesn't have to be. Like sexy or witty or
Kimmy Seltzer:funny or clever, it could just be high. I use the metaphor a
Kimmy Seltzer:lot with children like you see children on a playground, like,
Kimmy Seltzer:four or five years old. They don't have filters yet. They
Kimmy Seltzer:haven't had trauma happen or hurt happen. And this is, as a
Kimmy Seltzer:therapist I see is part of why people are in their heads. They
Kimmy Seltzer:just go up to people like, Hey, you want to play. They don't
Kimmy Seltzer:say, Oh, I shouldn't go up to that person. They look really
Kimmy Seltzer:busy. Or they don't want to talk to me, right? They just say, Hi.
Kimmy Seltzer:So it's coming from that place of curiosity and openness. Is
Kimmy Seltzer:the first thing that I really try to help men with, because
Kimmy Seltzer:they always want a line from me. They're like, Kimmy, give me a
Kimmy Seltzer:line. I'm like, I have no line. I teach them a social engagement
Kimmy Seltzer:formula on how to get out of the head and into something that's
Kimmy Seltzer:more playful and storytelling in nature.
Anne Truong:Okay, so what does that mean? How to get out of the
Anne Truong:head?
Kimmy Seltzer:Well meaning that they're trying to think of a
Kimmy Seltzer:line and what's next, rather than being just playful in their
Kimmy Seltzer:body and coming from a place of curiosity, because at the end of
Kimmy Seltzer:the day, it's how you make a woman feel. It's not about what
Kimmy Seltzer:or the clever line. And if a woman detects that it's a line
Kimmy Seltzer:or something that's pre fabricated, or you're
Kimmy Seltzer:hesitating, it feels inauthentic, it feels
Kimmy Seltzer:disconnected, and that's when women feel the creepy factor, to
Kimmy Seltzer:be honest. So it's like closing the gap and just playing like,
Kimmy Seltzer:when I do my dating retreats, it's so fun. Like, I have people
Kimmy Seltzer:go on scavenger hunts, and they have like, different prompts and
Kimmy Seltzer:directives where they have to do goofy things in the field. Like
Kimmy Seltzer:they'll go to bars and restaurants, and I'll have them
Kimmy Seltzer:just do playful interactions, and we do role playing, and I do
Kimmy Seltzer:improv with them, just to get them warmed up, because it's
Kimmy Seltzer:really it's about that like playfulness, we all kind of go
Kimmy Seltzer:back to when we were in kindergarten, when the boys
Kimmy Seltzer:chased the girls on the playground. You like that as
Kimmy Seltzer:women.
Anne Truong:So is this still it had things changed now in 2026
Anne Truong:versus like 20 years ago, as in dating?
Kimmy Seltzer:Yes, let's change. Yeah, because I focus on
Kimmy Seltzer:later daters, anybody over 40. Listening to this, it's
Kimmy Seltzer:something that I'm very passionate about, because it
Kimmy Seltzer:used to be where, first of all, we didn't have social media, we
Kimmy Seltzer:didn't have dating apps, we didn't have technology. So
Kimmy Seltzer:people were actually forced, oh my god, dare I say, to meet
Kimmy Seltzer:people in real life, in the wild, right? Like, and people
Kimmy Seltzer:only had a couple people to select from, like, maybe it was
Kimmy Seltzer:Susie across the way or Betty next door, and then you struck
Kimmy Seltzer:up a conversation, and you cultivated that as somebody who
Kimmy Seltzer:maybe could be your potential partner and build a life with
Kimmy Seltzer:Well, now it's not like that anymore, and in good ways and
Kimmy Seltzer:some challenging ways, right? Like we now have so many
Kimmy Seltzer:possibilities, we have way more choice, which is beautiful,
Kimmy Seltzer:because now we could maybe find a partner that's more right for
Kimmy Seltzer:us in this age that we're at, because what we wanted in our
Kimmy Seltzer:20s might be different, and it usually is different than when
Kimmy Seltzer:we're in our 50s, 60s, 70s. So it's really like a lot of
Kimmy Seltzer:people. That's another mistake I see with dating is that people
Kimmy Seltzer:are going out there dating as a relationship person rather than
Kimmy Seltzer:a dater.
Anne Truong:What does that mean? What does that mean? What
Anne Truong:you just said.
Kimmy Seltzer:Because they're going out looking for their next
Kimmy Seltzer:girlfriend, but they've never even just dated for the sake of
Kimmy Seltzer:dating to get to know themselves and what they're wanting in the
Kimmy Seltzer:stage of their life, and so they might get just locked in with
Kimmy Seltzer:somebody else, but they're not really figuring out who they are
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Kimmy Seltzer:So it's a really crucial like and beautiful
Kimmy Seltzer:bridge and transformation and reinvention when you are
Kimmy Seltzer:discovering yourself by just meeting lots of women, just not
Kimmy Seltzer:it's not even necessarily having sex with women. It's just
Kimmy Seltzer:meeting lots of women, like, if you've been a kid in the candy
Kimmy Seltzer:store that's only had a Hershey bar. How do you don't want a
Kimmy Seltzer:Gobstopper or a lollipop, or you, like you who haven't tasted
Kimmy Seltzer:the world and your goals are different now you maybe you just
Kimmy Seltzer:want a travel partner. Maybe you you want a situation ship, I
Kimmy Seltzer:don't know, like you can have anything you want in this modern
Kimmy Seltzer:day world. Old, and at the age you're at, it's a beautiful
Kimmy Seltzer:thing, but sometimes that can be challenging just understanding
Kimmy Seltzer:all the nuances of that. The other thing with modern dating,
Kimmy Seltzer:obviously, are the apps, right? And so a lot of men go out there
Kimmy Seltzer:and they don't know how to navigate the apps, and they'll
Kimmy Seltzer:use like the DM exchanges, as if they were, like, writing an
Kimmy Seltzer:email or something. Like, they don't know how to flirt online,
Kimmy Seltzer:and that's a really crucial skill to learn as they're
Kimmy Seltzer:getting out there and dating, I'll tell a story of this guy I
Kimmy Seltzer:dated. It was like he was a widower and he was getting back
Kimmy Seltzer:out there and he had no clue what he was doing. Like, I think
Kimmy Seltzer:maybe he was 70 at the time that I met him, and he's like, Kimmy,
Kimmy Seltzer:I just need help. Like, I don't know how to flirt. Been a long
Kimmy Seltzer:time. I don't know. How do you we do these dating apps? And I
Kimmy Seltzer:did a whole thing. Like, I'm kind of like, hitch meets, what
Kimmy Seltzer:not to wear for those references. Like, I took him
Kimmy Seltzer:shopping first because his clothes were very nerdy. I'm not
Kimmy Seltzer:going to a lot of them are, like, too big on like, those
Kimmy Seltzer:clothes were big on him. He didn't have edge, he did not
Kimmy Seltzer:have sex appeal in his clothes, and he didn't even know what
Kimmy Seltzer:that was, right? So I first, this is the outside in approach.
Kimmy Seltzer:I first had to get him marketing himself like a sexy man, because
Kimmy Seltzer:even if I taught him the skills wearing those nerdy clothes was
Kimmy Seltzer:not going to do it for him. So I had to get him a little bit
Kimmy Seltzer:updated there. So we did that, and then we started just doing
Kimmy Seltzer:cold approaches with women. We started teaching him how to
Kimmy Seltzer:flirt, but then we worked on his profile, and like he didn't even
Kimmy Seltzer:know how to send me his pictures. He got new pictures
Kimmy Seltzer:done and everything, and he brought in a manila folder all
Kimmy Seltzer:of his pictures, and we spread them out on the table, and we
Kimmy Seltzer:picked out the right ones for him. And then we worked on like,
Kimmy Seltzer:how to text a woman, how going right. Like, and I know you work
Kimmy Seltzer:with sexual dysfunction and almost like Ed and flirting,
Kimmy Seltzer:right? Like, if you don't know how to keep things going, you
Kimmy Seltzer:will lose the woman. Like, in this modern day world, everyone
Kimmy Seltzer:is so busy we're doing a zillion things. And in this age group,
Kimmy Seltzer:we have grandchildren to deal with. We have children, we have
Kimmy Seltzer:jobs. If you don't know how to keep that sexual tension going
Kimmy Seltzer:in between your dates, it dies. So there's a lot of little
Kimmy Seltzer:nuances with all this stuff, and I know there's so much to talk
Kimmy Seltzer:about, but just to give you an idea, this is the kind of thing.
Kimmy Seltzer:I treat dating as a skill. Never done it. How are you supposed to
Kimmy Seltzer:know it? You got to practice it. You gotta learn it. You gotta
Kimmy Seltzer:start in kindergarten.
Anne Truong:When you were talking, I wrote down this
Anne Truong:question, is floating online different than flirting in
Anne Truong:person?
Kimmy Seltzer:It's the same in that it's how you make somebody
Kimmy Seltzer:feel. And so sometimes I'll look into profile, because I go into
Kimmy Seltzer:like, bumble or match and these dating profiles, and I'll look
Kimmy Seltzer:at like the exchange that's happening, and often it looks
Kimmy Seltzer:like a LinkedIn exchange. I'm like, oh my god, this is so
Kimmy Seltzer:boring. I'm like, this so having just I call it transactional
Kimmy Seltzer:DMs, it just looks like a business transaction. There's
Kimmy Seltzer:nothing fun, there's nothing flirty about it, like it won't
Kimmy Seltzer:make a woman move the needle with you, and that's why a lot
Kimmy Seltzer:of guys sadly fall into the friend zone. So I teach them how
Kimmy Seltzer:to be in the flirt zone with their DMs. Same thing with
Kimmy Seltzer:offline. It's how you make a woman feel, not about just the
Kimmy Seltzer:tactics that you use. So it's a lot of it is unspoken words.
Kimmy Seltzer:It's the way you touch a woman, it's the nonverbals. It's the
Kimmy Seltzer:way that you look at her, it's the way that you emote with your
Kimmy Seltzer:feelings and tap into the emotional triggers that creates
Kimmy Seltzer:the attraction. So it's really, really interesting, because a
Kimmy Seltzer:lot of guys, because they get in their heads that they worry more
Kimmy Seltzer:about the tactics than the actual feeling of the
Kimmy Seltzer:interaction, and that goes for both online and offline. So
Kimmy Seltzer:instead of just firing questions at a woman, that's where I see
Kimmy Seltzer:like the Q and A in the interview happen, and like when
Kimmy Seltzer:they're on dates, that's where things die, and then women will
Kimmy Seltzer:come back and say, I didn't feel the chemistry. You didn't play.
Kimmy Seltzer:It was a transaction. It was just like, oh, so how many kids
Kimmy Seltzer:do you have? How long have you lived here for? You've been to,
Kimmy Seltzer:oh, my God, that's so boring, so boring. It's more like,
Kimmy Seltzer:sometimes the most nonsensical interactions and conversations
Kimmy Seltzer:are the best one.
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Anne Truong:How does a man convey sexual, sexy confidence?
Kimmy Seltzer:It's everything that we're talking about. So
Kimmy Seltzer:what the charisma quotient does. It's the name of my podcast.
Kimmy Seltzer:It's what you are on, actually. And definitely check out Dr
Kimmy Seltzer:Anne's episode. By the way. It was an amazing so I'll put that
Kimmy Seltzer:out too. It's the formula that I teach people to do, and it is
Kimmy Seltzer:the outside in approach. And the reason why I love the word
Kimmy Seltzer:charisma is because it's something that is taught and
Kimmy Seltzer:learned, not something that people are born with. This is
Kimmy Seltzer:what research says. So I have taught an 85 year old woman to
Kimmy Seltzer:go to a bar and pick up a man, right? Like the age does not
Kimmy Seltzer:discriminate with this stuff. But what I do with people is I
Kimmy Seltzer:look at three different pillars in the charisma quotient. The
Kimmy Seltzer:first pillar is what I call style intelligence, and this is
Kimmy Seltzer:the outside, inner part. So I start there, and I assess that.
Kimmy Seltzer:And this relates to Sexy Confidence, right? It's your
Kimmy Seltzer:style, it's your like energy, it's your body language, it's
Kimmy Seltzer:your first impressions. Like, how do you come across in that
Kimmy Seltzer:first hit? It only takes seven seconds to make a first
Kimmy Seltzer:impression. That's all you got. Now, seven seconds. That's what
Kimmy Seltzer:research says. Like, only a couple of years ago was 30
Kimmy Seltzer:seconds. So now it's like with technology too. It's happening
Kimmy Seltzer:so fast.
Anne Truong:And most of it is not verbal.
Kimmy Seltzer:That's why I start with the style
Kimmy Seltzer:intelligence. Because, like I said, you can do all this work
Kimmy Seltzer:on yourself, but if you're not focusing on your first
Kimmy Seltzer:impression, nonverbal stuff and style intelligence, it doesn't
Kimmy Seltzer:matter, because then opportunities start passing you
Kimmy Seltzer:by, and then the second pillar is emotional intelligence.
Kimmy Seltzer:Obviously, as a therapist, is a big part of what I work on in
Kimmy Seltzer:attraction and relationships, is that how we express ourselves,
Kimmy Seltzer:how we emote, how we're vulnerable, how authentic we are
Kimmy Seltzer:in our interactions, is also going to make or break the way
Kimmy Seltzer:that we relate to each other, and how somebody feels so with
Kimmy Seltzer:Sexy Confidence, like if, if you, let's say, are not
Kimmy Seltzer:confident in the way you express yourself, you're a little
Kimmy Seltzer:guarded, maybe There's been things that have hurt you, like
Kimmy Seltzer:in relationships, you might come across as stiff or very logical
Kimmy Seltzer:or very almost friend zoning because you're not allowing a
Kimmy Seltzer:woman to really feel you. I'll give you an example of what that
Kimmy Seltzer:looks like. Because men are you're probably are like, Well,
Kimmy Seltzer:what does that mean? Because men, let's, let's face it, women
Kimmy Seltzer:have a bigger space in their brain of emotional language than
Kimmy Seltzer:men do, so like we're wired differently. But I always tell
Kimmy Seltzer:men, if you can tap into that part of our brain, you got us.
Anne Truong:Okay, listen man, listen to this. Okay, yeah. How
Anne Truong:do you tap into that woman brain?
Kimmy Seltzer:Well, to give an example, and it relates to the
Kimmy Seltzer:social engagement formula that I teach people when I work with
Kimmy Seltzer:and we don't have time to go over all of that. But there was
Kimmy Seltzer:a man who did it to me, and I was working out at my health
Kimmy Seltzer:club, and we came out and we were standing at the elevator.
Kimmy Seltzer:Now, if people even talk to each other anymore, maybe a good
Kimmy Seltzer:thing would be to say, oh, did you have a good workout? And not
Kimmy Seltzer:that there's anything wrong with that, that that's a nice
Kimmy Seltzer:gesture, and to ask, but it's probably just a safe kind of
Kimmy Seltzer:interaction, oh, it was good, and yours, yeah, it was good,
Kimmy Seltzer:and then it just dies, right? There's nothing that happens. He
Kimmy Seltzer:did a great thing with me that I try to teach everybody. He
Kimmy Seltzer:started with an emotion and a story. He looks at me, he shakes
Kimmy Seltzer:his head, and he says, I'm exhausted. It was awesome. What
Kimmy Seltzer:a great entry. I'm like, oh my god, me too. He's like, Yeah, I
Kimmy Seltzer:couldn't get through my workout. I said, Oh my gosh, me either. I
Kimmy Seltzer:don't know what was going on. So we're joining in emotion, not
Kimmy Seltzer:being like, oh, did you have a good work? I mean, that's
Kimmy Seltzer:boring. He became human. He became real. It wasn't a tactic.
Kimmy Seltzer:It wasn't something that was safe. He went under the radar
Kimmy Seltzer:and came at it at a very human type of trigger for me. And so I
Kimmy Seltzer:had a better conversation in that elevator for, I don't know,
Kimmy Seltzer:was like maybe two minutes, then a 15 minute conversation that
Kimmy Seltzer:was boring and played it safe. So my point in telling you that
Kimmy Seltzer:it's amazing how you can use the vulnerability and emotion and
Kimmy Seltzer:attraction in that first hit. Now the third pillar is what I
Kimmy Seltzer:call social intelligence. And obviously. Like people, they
Kimmy Seltzer:know that word. They know emotional intelligence, but I
Kimmy Seltzer:teach it in relation to dating, how comfortable you are socially
Kimmy Seltzer:I work. I'd say 90% of my clients are introverts, and
Kimmy Seltzer:they're also high achievers. So they get in their head that that
Kimmy Seltzer:social battery gets drained. The thought of making conversation
Kimmy Seltzer:is exhausting for them. So yeah, flirting is hard in that first
Kimmy Seltzer:hit, so really helping people get over that hump and closing
Kimmy Seltzer:the gaps to get more comfortable with themselves, and then that
Kimmy Seltzer:makes other people look at them as more sexy and confident.
Anne Truong:Well, that kind of leads me to the thing is that a
Anne Truong:lot of the people we work with are haven't dated in a while,
Anne Truong:and if you haven't used that skill, you need a refresher. You
Anne Truong:really need a refresher. And I know that you have a special
Anne Truong:deal for our listeners for your workshop, so please share that.
Anne Truong:But to me, it's like, I'm a tennis player. I haven't played
Anne Truong:tennis in a while, like 10 years. I'm gonna need to take
Anne Truong:some lessons. I'm gonna have to take some group stuff to hone in
Anne Truong:my skill. It's the same thing with flirting because you said
Anne Truong:flirting, you're not born with charisma. You're not born with
Anne Truong:it. You hone in the skill and what works, and working with a
Anne Truong:coach that can really show you the roadmap to get there,
Anne Truong:because I believe that all of us can hone in that skill. Now,
Anne Truong:there are some that a little bit more natural than others,
Anne Truong:depending on your introvert or extrovert, but everyone can
Anne Truong:flirt and as long like what you just said, all these things that
Anne Truong:you have said that I'm aware, but I couldn't articulate it, or
Anne Truong:even visually see that. So tell us about your workshop.
Kimmy Seltzer:Yes, oh, my God. Well, and to button up even the
Kimmy Seltzer:last question about confidence, it relates to the workshop, is
Kimmy Seltzer:that I believe, like the way I define confidence in general, is
Kimmy Seltzer:experience. That's it. I don't believe there's one person out
Kimmy Seltzer:there listening that's not confident. It's just that there
Kimmy Seltzer:may be an area that you haven't had enough practice in positive
Kimmy Seltzer:exposure to or maybe it's just something you never, never
Kimmy Seltzer:learned and never knew. So how do you get it? You got to
Kimmy Seltzer:practice. But not only practice, you got to have someone hold you
Kimmy Seltzer:accountable, and you got to do it in repetition. It's just like
Kimmy Seltzer:what you do with your clients. I mean, it's never a good idea to
Kimmy Seltzer:just tell one of your clients, Oh, just be more confident. Get
Kimmy Seltzer:out of your head. You'll be fine. No, what do I need to do?
Kimmy Seltzer:Well, you gotta do the exercises. You gotta do the
Kimmy Seltzer:shake that you have, like all the things. So I like to break
Kimmy Seltzer:it down into almost like, those measurable mini tangible things
Kimmy Seltzer:that you can do that add up to the confidence. And one of the
Kimmy Seltzer:things that I encourage everyone to do is to take my workshop,
Kimmy Seltzer:because it's co ed, and there's men and women in there, and for
Kimmy Seltzer:three hours, we get things done. Like you'll learn through a
Kimmy Seltzer:PowerPoint of my tips. And I do a dating skill each month I
Kimmy Seltzer:happen to have one coming up in February, February 25. It's a
Kimmy Seltzer:flirt workshop. But then every month I do a different dating
Kimmy Seltzer:skill, so you can just practice that, and then we go into
Kimmy Seltzer:breakout in the VIP rooms. I'm happy to gift all your listeners
Kimmy Seltzer:a free upgrade to the VIP room, because I want your listeners to
Kimmy Seltzer:put themselves into practice. It's not enough to listen and
Kimmy Seltzer:chat in the chat. I want them interacting. Then that'll build
Kimmy Seltzer:your confidence, and from there, like, who knows where you'll go.
Kimmy Seltzer:So, yeah, I love it. And also, if you go to
Kimmy Seltzer:stophatingdating.com that's where you can register, and I'll
Kimmy Seltzer:give everyone a code for your listener, so they'll get that
Kimmy Seltzer:free upgrade. There's another thing that they could do. This
Kimmy Seltzer:is for free, you could go to flirtoverforty.com and take a
Kimmy Seltzer:Flirt Quiz to see what kind of flirt you are, and that way, it
Kimmy Seltzer:can give you a baseline of some of the things that are tripping
Kimmy Seltzer:you off where you can go from there, you'll get some video
Kimmy Seltzer:series from me along the way, not a reminder to come to the
Kimmy Seltzer:workshop.
Anne Truong:Okay, so the Flirt Quiz is, what's the URL for the
Anne Truong:Flirt Quiz?
Kimmy Seltzer:Again, flirtoverforty.com that's
Kimmy Seltzer:flirtoverforty.com
Anne Truong:So flirtoverforty.com and take the
Anne Truong:quiz, then sign up for her workshop, and she gifting the
Anne Truong:listener what she's gonna give us, the code. I'll put it in the
Anne Truong:description. So check the description down below, so that
Anne Truong:way you can get VIP upgrades, that's when you get to interact
Anne Truong:with Kimmy and interact with other people that sign up for.
Anne Truong:Who knows who you will meet, and you get to practice as well. So
Anne Truong:this is awesome. What is that URL to sign up for the workshop?
Kimmy Seltzer:Yeah, it's stophatingdating.com
Anne Truong:Okay, stophatingdating.com she has one
Anne Truong:every month, right? So if you can't make it next, next month
Anne Truong:and March and April. And I would tell you, it's they think of it
Anne Truong:like flirting, like a skill that you haven't used in a long time.
Anne Truong:And like I mentioned earlier, I'm a tennis player, but I
Anne Truong:haven't picked up a tennis in like, 10 years, and you're gonna
Anne Truong:need some lessons. You're gonna need a refresher. And so guys,
Anne Truong:if you're getting to the dating scene again. Go to Kimmy's
Anne Truong:workshop and get honed in the skill, you never know. You never
Anne Truong:know who you're gonna meet in there, and just start
Anne Truong:practicing, because when your confidence on the inside, you'll
Anne Truong:also feel confident as well on the outside. But then it works
Anne Truong:together, right? And I can't tell you how important this is.
Anne Truong:So Kimmy, thank you so much being on our podcast and sharing
Anne Truong:your wisdom. And I can't wait for our listeners to really join
Anne Truong:in on your workshop. You tell us in the comment, how did it go
Anne Truong:for you all as well. So check out for the discount code as
Anne Truong:well, too. So having said that, Modern Man, remember that when
Anne Truong:you get dating, you have strategies, and you have
Anne Truong:somebody to learn from, that's Kimmy. And just know that you
Anne Truong:are not alone. There are alternatives and we're here to
Anne Truong:help you. So we'll see you in the next episode.
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