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5 Ways to Keep Clients Happy Without Doing More or Losing Your Sanity
Episode 91 • 24th September 2026 • Growing a Deeply Rooted Business: Launches, Funnels & Email Marketing with Intention • Jessica Walther, Launch Strategist & Rachel Lopez, Email Marketing Strategist
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Your clients don’t need you to answer Slack messages at dinner, jump on more calls, or constantly do more than what they’re paying you for.

What they do need is to understand what’s happening, what you’re working on, and the value you’re bringing to their business.

Because sometimes great clients leave even when the work is good—not because you failed to deliver, but because they couldn’t clearly see the work, progress, or impact behind their investment.

In this episode of our five-part Life First Series, we’re breaking down five ways to create a client experience that keeps great clients around longer without overdelivering or making yourself endlessly available.

We’re talking about the systems and rhythms that help you follow through on commitments, make your work more visible, proactively communicate with clients, prevent scope creep, and turn your results into something clients can actually recognize and talk about.

Because keeping clients happy shouldn’t require sacrificing your sanity. A great client experience comes from having systems that hold the details so your brain doesn’t have to.

In This Episode, We Cover

  • How to capture the small commitments you make during client calls so nothing gets forgotten or dropped.
  • Why making your work visible through project management systems, weekly updates, and proactive communication builds client trust.
  • How pointing out opportunities can position you as a strategic partner while creating opportunities to expand existing retainers.
  • How quarterly retainer resets help you revisit goals, priorities, and scope before frustration or scope creep builds.
  • How to turn your results into “receipts” so clients can clearly see the measurable—and non-measurable—impact of your work.

Resources Mentioned

Meeting Maestro Miles — helps take the mental load out of client meetings by helping you prepare for meetings, recap what happened, capture action items and commitments, and wrap up your day so those little promises aren't living in your head after work.

Grab Meeting Maestro Miles separately from The Lab for only $14: https://gal.thrivecart.com/miles

Project Planner Paula — our $14 AI project planning tool that turns your brain dump into a structured project plan with goals, strategy, deliverables, production steps, owners, and timelines.

Grab It Here: https://gal.thrivecart.com/paula/

Meet Your Hosts

Jessica Walther is the founder and CEO of The Launch Collaborative and Sustainable Success Systems. As a launch strategist and systems consultant, Jess is dedicated to helping solo business owners and small-but-mighty teams build businesses that deliver both peace and profit. She specializes in creating sustainable growth strategies that align with her clients' values and lifestyles.

Rachel Lopez is the founder and CEO of Gal Marketing Agency, a boutique email marketing and strategy firm. With over a decade of experience, Rachel helps heart-driven entrepreneurs craft intentional marketing strategies that attract, nurture, and convert leads sustainably. Her human-first approach ensures that marketing efforts feel authentic and effective .

Together, Jess and Rachel blend systems, storytelling, and soulful strategy to help you grow a business that's deeply aligned with your life—not just your revenue goals.

Connect With Us:

  • Jess Website
  • Rachel's Website

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  • Rachel's Instagram

Transcripts

Rachel:

I want you to think about the last client who left you.

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Not that one that was a total nightmare,

and we were so grateful that they said

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goodbye, but that good one, the one

who sent the, " We're gonna pause for

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now" email, and you had to sit there

thinking like, "Well, what did I do?

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The work was good."

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And you know the work was really good.

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But what I have learned from being on both

sides of that email is that the clients

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almost never leave because the work was

bad or there was any real big issues.

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They leave because they

couldn't see the tangibles.

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They didn't know what you were doing

week to week and couldn't necessarily

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explain maybe the impact or the value

when that invoice finally comes through.

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They couldn't tie it to anything, so they

decided that maybe it was okay to cut.

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And the flip side of that is true.

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I've had clients who have stayed with me

for five, six years, since the beginning,

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and they're constantly referring

friends and other businesses my way.

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And I will tell you, they're not

getting the fanciest deliverables.

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They're getting an experience where

nothing has been dropped, nothing

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is a mystery, and they always

really know what they're paying for.

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So today, in our Life First Series, we're

going to be talking about the five moves

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that are making this happen, and none

of them require you to be more available

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or do more for less of an hourly rate.

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Jessica: But before we get into

it, welcome back to Growing

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a Deeply Rooted Business.

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If this is your first time here, hi,

I'm Jess, your sustainable growth

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strategist, and I am here with Rachel,

our marketing ecosystem mastermind.

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Before we get into this, we always

like to do a quick energy check and

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release before we get into our episodes,

because when you hear the word client

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experience, I know some of you got

that tense feeling when your client

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sends you a Slack message and says,

"Hey, we need to talk about something."

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Today is not about faster replies,

getting on more calls or being

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on Slack at your phone at dinner.

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Today is gonna be about

releasing all of those kind of

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toxic client service behaviors.

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So I want you to take a deep inhale

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Let that ish go.

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All right, because a great client

experience isn't about white-knuckling

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through every single week.

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It's about building systems and

processes that hold the details

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so your brain doesn't have to.

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So if you are any kind of service

provider, whether you're a coach,

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service provider, email marketer,

OBM, any kind of client where you've

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got clients on an ongoing retainer

or multi month package or any type

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of ongoing way that you're servicing

clients, this episode is for you.

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If you are a business whose most of

their clients come through referrals,

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or would probably ideally come

through referrals, this is for you.

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I want you to stick around because

we're going to also help you overcome

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the one thing that kills scope

creep dead in its track without

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having an awkward conversation.

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All right, so let's get into

point number one, Rachel.

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Rachel: point number one

is never drop a commitment.

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And I think that this is a process and a

system that I have been, so grateful for.

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That after essentially five minutes

after my call, I do this one process

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to close the gap between what I said on

that call and what actually gets done.

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And we've all have been in client

call days, and when I first started

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my business and I structured my

week, it was Tuesdays and Thursdays

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were just back to back to back.

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And it was not with the same client,

it was with multiple clients a day.

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And so you make way more commitments

than you actually realize on these

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calls where you're strategizing and

planning things and breaking things in.

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It's whether it means like a, "Oh, I'll

send that over to you at the end of this

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call," or, "Let me take a look at that,"

or, "Let's check with this person."

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All of these things get logged as

somewhat small promises to your client.

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Whether or not you mean that to be or

not, they still do hold you accountable.

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And you know, everybody has

AI note takers now, right?

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And so when they get that summary and,

you maybe were just saying it pretty

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low key, that still puts you on the

hook for delivering that at the end.

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So one of the things that I have

done is making sure that those big

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deliverables don't fall off of my plate.

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Here's what I do after every single call.

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So I make sure to capture all of the

commitments before I close out that

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meeting tab and move on to the next one.

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I'm not relying on my brain to

retain that through two or three

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more meetings for that day.

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So this is not a, "Oh, I'll

do this later," kind of thing,

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because I will forget it.

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Next is that I send the recap within

hour to 24 hours of the call of,

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"Here's what we decided, here's

what's still pending, action items."

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And then all of my clients and

their project managers and their

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copywriters, and and I say, "Okay, here

in Slack, here's everybody's to-do."

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I think this is really

where projects fall through.

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Everybody's talking about things

on calls, but the ownership

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isn't necessarily the clearest.

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And so, after I've sent that recap, we

tell them a status update if something

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is going to then be not on time, right?

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So maybe on my call, I go, "I'm gonna

send you the updated sequence for this

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upcoming launch by tomorrow morning."

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And then I get bogged down in the

next three hours of my calls, and

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then I have to be offline at 4:00.

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And that tomorrow morning

comes, and that's not there.

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Making sure that you stay proactive

to say, "Hey, heads up, it's gonna be

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an hour or two late," kind of thing.

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And then most importantly, before you

get on that next call, whether you have

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reoccurring calls with your clients, which

I do, making sure that when you get and

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walk into that next call, you already know

the status of what did we say last time?

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What's overdue?

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What's still pending?

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And anything that they really

are going to inquire about.

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So I think this is the really the

set system that I've implemented that

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makes sure people know that my clients

understand that maybe they do and it,

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and I don't know, Jess, you tell me.

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I've made the toxic environment

where my clients sometimes feel

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like they're my only clients.

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And I have to be like, "No,

this is just what quality

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client experience looks like."

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But these steps are crucial to making

sure that your client's not asking

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you constantly, "Hey, what's this?

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Hey, what's that?"

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Like, what are we doing here?

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Jessica: Yeah, no, I've actually had one

of my clients tell me, "I don't even feel

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that you have other clients," because

I implement kind of these same things.

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I think that staying true to what

you promise on your call or what

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you say you're gonna do is one of

the things that is most important

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to a client relationship, and

really taking ownership of that.

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I think that clients understand that

For the type of work we do, things

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may not always perform as we hope for

'cause we're launching, we're tweaking,

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you know, doing that sort of thing.

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But because I've built that trust and

that integrity that I'm gonna deliver

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on the things that I say I'm going to

do, they like to work with me long term

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because they know they can trust me.

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They know I'm giving it my all.

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People know when you're kinda phoning it

in and not really on top of the things.

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We're actually working with a consultant

for another client that right now and

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he has, I'm sure, the best intentions.

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And we did just hire him

to be a pure consultant.

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He doesn't really have any executable

deliverables, But on multiple calls, he

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has said, "Oh, you know, I have notes

for that," or, "I have a process for

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that and I'm gonna send that over,"

and then after, never sent it over.

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And it wasn't something that

we were expecting him to do.

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It was something actually that was

on my to-do list, but if you said

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you're gonna do it, then do it.

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And even though I know he knows what

he's talking about, he just isn't showing

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up as somebody that we would wanna

count on long term because he's not,

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following up on the promises he's making.

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And I think that's so important.

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He could've been someone that we

would've invited into our business

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on a more ongoing, like, you're

gonna execute, you're gonna lead,

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but because he's kind of lost trust,

it's like, well, is he really gonna

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deliver what he says he's gonna do?

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Are we gonna have to stay

on top of him all the time?

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Do we really want him anymore?

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That is so important.

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But also, we know we all

have a lot of stuff to do.

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I think this is my sixth call today.

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So there are a lot of meetings, and

before I built this tool that I'm

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about to share with you, I felt like my

whole entire week was either prepping

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for meetings, being at meetings, or

downloading whatever was, happening

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or needed to happen after meetings.

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And so that's why I built

Meeting Maestro Miles.

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He's one of our employees in the lab.

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And he has helped me out so much.

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He has three different modes.

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One for prep and one for recapping

meetings, and one end of the day wrap.

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So what he essentially does is before

every meeting, he pulls from my calendar,

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Past transcripts, the notes from the

last meeting, and then he also goes

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through my Slack, my email, and my

Notion project management tool, and

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kind of hands me a brief of what I need

to prepare or be prepared to discuss

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about during my next client touch base.

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And then after, he will go

through my meetings and like

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those little AI note takers.

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He'll not only do a summary of the

meeting, find the action items, but

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then he actually assigns the action

items to me or to my team members

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inside of my project management tools.

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And then also, he gives an end-of-the-day

recap where you can briefly go through,

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because by the end of the day, there's

like, what exactly happened today, where

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I can kind of just read, and get a quick

download of here's what's happening.

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I know my tasks are there waiting for me.

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And let me just tell you not only

the time, but the mental load of not

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trying to have to hold it all and

am I dropping the ball on this or

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forgetting this, has been so amazing.

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You have him working in your

business as well, Rachel, but he's

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really been one of my most favorite

employees that we've built so far.

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Rachel: Yeah, and it's honestly has,

amplified my project management, my

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scheduling of myself, and This has

helped me commit to more, not necessarily

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willingly, but it's helped me commit to

more because I know what I can manage

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and say deliver a better experience.

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So that five minutes after the call habit

of me trying to rush to the next meeting,

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but still not drop the ball on this other

meeting that just happened is a two-click

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process now, and it's phenomenal.

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So yeah.

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So I think those are the two

things that have really helped.

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And then that brings us to step two,

which is let them see inside of the work.

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So I think what happens is that internal

project management process typically

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shown because a lot of the times it

exists in the same way that our internal

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brains work, where it's a little bit

messy and you're like, "I don't know."

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But that is truly a trust-building

tool, and so When I have it

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and brought my clients in, they

truly know exactly where to go.

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We have a HQ for everything.

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We have our call notes and everything,

so they see all the stuff that step one

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does, which is break down all of the

deliverables, the recaps, and everything.

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They see that where I've sorted it

into my project management system.

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But now they're able to really understand

timelines and things like that.

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So some clients I know love that.

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Some clients hate that.

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And so it really is just for my own

sanity, best practice to say, "This is a

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client-facing project management tool,"

even if they use it or they don't use it.

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You know what I mean?

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Jessica: Well, and I still think even if

they're not necessarily visiting it every

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day, having it all laid out like that

makes the deadlines that they have to

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turn stuff in for you even more apparent.

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And it's easier for you to collect, to

do your boundaries, 'cause I know that

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we've all had these one-month project

commitments that stretch out to, four

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and six months because the client is

taking forever to get back with you.

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And I think by laying it out ahead of

time and letting them know, like, "Do you

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think that this is feasible on your end?"

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So that you can kind of make those

adjustments and those expectations ahead

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of time because not every client is gonna

come in with the same level of operational

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prowess that maybe, you know, we are.

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Rachel: Yeah, and the things that

you can amplify using conversations

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from calls, action items, things

like that is sending a weekly update.

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So I send mine on Fridays and

especially with launching clients,

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when we're in ramp-up mode, it's like,

"Hey, we've gotten this percentage

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to goal from our opt-in goal.

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Here's what's been done.

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Here's what's actionable

from the next week."

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All of those various things, that

is reliant on you having a system

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of getting those action items out

of the calls and into a place that

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is not a paper handwritten note

on your desk of things like that.

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That's one thing.

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Repeating the pending

items every single week.

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Although it feels redundant to you…

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for me, I'll just use myself as example,

like uploading monthly newsletters.

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That's something that is gonna happen

automatically regardless of if my client

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reminds me or not, doesn't remind me.

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But having that as a bullet point

of saying, "Hey, here's what's

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happening," kinda keeps it in mind

even during slow periods, we're still

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actionable, we're still doing things,

we're still moving progress along.

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Because that repetitive process, those

repetitive works, even though it's

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on autopilot to your client, still

keeps you top of mind to them that

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you're moving and grooving inside

of their strategy and all of that.

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And then the next one is flag

what you're waiting on them for.

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I love this.

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I'm always like, "Hey, We're

still pending review on this."

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I think it's important, especially

when you're building that rapport for

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your client, you don't wanna be that

annoying project manager, but still

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being accountable so that it removes

that invisible labor from them to be

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like, "Well, what is the status of this?"

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Like, "Oh, it's still on

my list," kind of thing.

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So it just puts a little bit more of

the control in your hands, and that you

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are all working from a shared timeline.

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And then the last thing that I

always do is include a what's

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coming up, all of the ideas that

were in the project parking lot.

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Some of my clients were

already building November and

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December newsletter topics for.

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And while that still feels so far away

for some people, it is still active

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asset development and active things

that are happening now to keep it

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handy, keep it top of mind here, so

that people can kinda see top of mind.

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I know that if I'm doing this, my client's

staying with me until December 'cause

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who's gonna load those newsletters?

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You know what I mean?

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So it's just really important

to over-communicate.

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That's essentially what this

is, is just over-communication.

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Jessica: Yeah, and this is something

that could definitely be automated.

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Right now as when we're going

through them, like, oh, we could

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definitely automate this as well.

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Or AI it to where they're pulling

what got done, what's blocked, here's

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what the next two weeks look like.

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And I think that proactive communication

to the client helps them keep on track.

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I've actually had a client say,

"You're more on top of me than my EA

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sometimes," with getting me your stuff

because I have that automated system

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that I'm going through with them.

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It definitely is appreciated with them.

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And I think with clients, especially

when we're doing, remote work

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with them and we may not be seeing

them, it's really important to

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still have those touch points.

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I do try to touch my clients and…

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Not touch them, touch a

part of their business.

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Virtually touch them every single day,

whether it's sending the recap on Fridays,

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meeting with them on Tuesdays, hopping

into their Slack and just interacting.

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Sometimes, I'll have clients that'll share

client wins in there, so just making sure

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I'm thumbs-upping it and high-fiving it.

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Like, she's still around,

I'm paying her for something.

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And it doesn't become a lot when you

kind of have these systems in place.

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It's not busy work because this is

saving me from them freaking out later

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and like, "What is she actually doing?"

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They always know what I'm doing because

they have access to my project management.

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I'm doing consistent updates, and

now with AI you can do crazy things.

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I haven't even told Rachel about this yet,

but we're in the middle of launch week

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for one of my biggest launch clients right

now, and I basically had Claude build

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out an artifact of a dashboard for their

launch, and every morning he goes through

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and pulls from their Meta Ads account and

then from their email service provider and

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updates the numbers automatically for me.

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And then all I have to say is

"Here's your numbers update, client."

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I'm sure I could even automate that

further, but it's one of those things

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where they know that, you're on top of it.

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And we're using AI in a way that is

assisting us and not replacing us.

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Rachel: if not a service provider you

live more in the course world, this

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is something you can easily do from a

retention marketing side for students in

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your program, with onboarding emails and

check in emails and things like that.

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Like, "Hey, did you know that you

have access to this template inside

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of the program that you built?"

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These are all things that are very easy

to automate when you think client first.

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Retention is the name of the game, right?

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I have talked so many times about

customer lifetime value and how

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getting a new lead is more expensive

than just retaining an existing lead.

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So, whether you are a service provider

or whether you are a course creator in

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digital product side, it is important to

emphasize the customer journey and the

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client experience on both sides of this.

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So, this isn't just siloed

for service providers.

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Jessica: All right, step number

three, and this might have been a

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two-point part episode, but we're

dropping lots of valuable things here.

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You wanna point out

opportunities for the client.

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I think this is maybe my toxic trait.

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I will see opportunities, but

just assume that my client doesn't

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wanna pay for anything else.

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That they're already maxed out.

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But I think if you see an opportunity,

to make sure that you are pointing

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out like, "Oh, I noticed this, and,

you know, it's not part of my scope,

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but it is something that I help

people with if you wanna tackle this."

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Or if even if it's pieces that are

part of your scope, but maybe it's

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a way that we've always been doing

some things, the way we write our

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newsletter, the way we roll out this.

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I noticed that this is not working

anymore, and I saw this strategy from this

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person, and I'd like to do that, you know?

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And make sure that you're tying

it to what your goals are.

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But definitely, if it's not part of your

current scope, highlighting, that you can

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help them with that if you wanted to do.

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And then they can kind of decide, let's

do it now, or let's table that for later.

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But I think it's really important,

especially when you're trying to

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establish yourself as somebody who is

not only implementing, but offering

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strategy, to make sure that you are

staying on top of what opportunities

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they have and not waiting to be asked

and falling into that partner position,

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that partner that's noticing first.

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Rachel: I actually call this

getting as sticky as possible

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in your client's environment.

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When you're talking about revenue

generating for a business, it always

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doesn't mean you have to get a new client.

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Sometimes that means you can

upgrade existing retainers

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and doing things like this.

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And so this is one of those opportunities

that, one, keeps you creating future work

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for yourself, but also helps you just

maintain a relationship that keeps you

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looking like a partner and all of that.

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So moving on to step four,

which is the retainer rhythm.

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This is essentially, gives you and

your client a shared plan so that

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when you start working with somebody

and a year goes by, two years goes

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by, scope creep happens, right?

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I have a client who her contract has

been a hundred different things because

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it's just constantly evolving or

fluctuating in busy seasons and not.

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And so if you have repla-retainer clients,

you should be sitting down every single

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quarter and doing a reset with them.

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This is something that, we've kinda

just set up every, reoccurring meeting

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on our calendar, 'cause I know we're

gonna be working together for this time

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period, is an extra thirty minutes on

top of our monthly meeting anyways.

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And so it has a set agenda

where we say, you know what?

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Here's our goals from our annual plan.

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Here's our metrics and numbers.

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Here's our analytics dashboards.

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What are our priorities?

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And then how do we break

this down even further?

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This again builds that partnership

with your client so that you're not

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necessarily feeling threatened every

time, they have a bad month, they know

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that there's a plan going forward to it.

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And so this is one of those that,

again, you can build a system for.

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A set agenda and set, meeting notes

and then having meeting miles go in and

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say, "Here's the plan for the future."

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Honestly, it's not necessarily part of

my scope for my client, but I use our

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project management, Paula, to help amplify

ideas if that's just nobody's best skill,

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sometimes you just kinda have to say,

"Okay, well great, let's take this," and

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then we put it in and amplify it outwards.

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So it's just one of those things

that helps you stay sticky, helps you

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build that partnership, and really

change the conversation from just dull

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month-over-month tasks and to-dos to

refreshing things and helping you build

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those testimonials and client experience.

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Jessica: Yeah.

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This is one of those things that, doesn't

feel like you're doing a lot when you're

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doing it, but when we skip it, I can

definitely feel this with my clients.

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And they can feel it too because

it gets to a point, just like you

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have to reset your business where

priorities shift and things move,

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and this didn't work out the way you

thought it would, and this one did.

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And now Everybody's kinda looking

like, "What am I doing again?"

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Where you kind of feel you're

a little bit out of control.

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I actually did this with a client

recently and I'm like, "Let's just go

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ahead and schedule the next year so

that we have these on the calendar."

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They're protected because every

time, things kind of start to

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get a little bit eh, it's because

we didn't do a quarterly reset.

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We didn't set our initiatives."

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So this is super important just

to not only take a minute pause.

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And if you're just doing it

one-on-one with a client, this is a

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great time where they can give you

feedback on how you can do better.

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You can give them feedback on how

they can work with you better.

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And it's just kind of like a good

palate cleanser rather than just kind

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of letting frustration and tension

if things may not be going as well

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in certain areas kinda creep up.

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So then moving into step number five

is you want to make sure that you are

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turning your results into receipts.

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And really highlighting to your client

that they are getting an ROI from

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investing in you or your services.

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This is really how you create

that kind of referral pipeline.

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Even if you're on Yelp or whatever, and

you read through the reviews, when people

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have a complaint, they write stuff.

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But, when it's something goes good, unless

it's very exceptional out of the norm,

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they're not necessarily looking at it.

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But by having, And I like to kind of work

this into my quarterly recap, is going

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through your quarterly recap and picking

different metrics and reporting on them

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in a rhythm so that they can constantly

see the metrics that you are approaching.

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That way, when they're talking

to their industry peers, they can

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be like, "Oh, yeah, this month we

increased our email open rate by 10%."

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"Oh, who did that for you?

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I need my email open rate increased."

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But they're not gonna naturally

notice that unless you tell them.

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'Cause I promise you, the majority

of your clients hired you for

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that specific reason, because

that's your zone of genius, and

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it's not something that they're

naturally gonna kinda be looking at.

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So it's really important to not only

track the metrics, highlight the

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metrics, report them on a ongoing

rhythm but translate it into what

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it actually means for them and their

business and how it's impacting them.

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And then once they're like, "Oh, that's

great," you're like, "Yeah, I know.

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Can I use this as my case study?"

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Or, "Would you mind writing a little

testimonial so that you can include it?"

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And that makes it a really

easy way to get testimonials.

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'Cause I feel like getting testimonials

is one of the harder things, even

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if you are an amazing service

provider, to get from your clients,

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just because they're busy people.

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So you have to really be proactive

about highlighting that for yourself.

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Rachel: Yeah, and especially if you're

not in a super numbers heavy service,

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I don't love promoting my clients'

revenue wins on anything, but this

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still applies internally, right?

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The client does wanna see

that and stuff like that.

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So your hours that you're

saving them, they matter.

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The launch times and the pivots built

in and all of the revenue that took.

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That helps them.

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Them being able to be like, "Oh, I

can go on vacation, and I know my OBM

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is gonna take care of everything."

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All of this stuff is super

beneficial to the experience.

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So let's go ahead and tie this

all together 'cause this is one

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of our longer episodes here.

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Five steps that you can do to

come back to one idea, which is

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making the work more visible.

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Number one is never dropping a commitment.

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Capture every single one of those

little small promises that you say,

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"Hey, I'll send that over before you

do this, before the meeting ends," and

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then send that recap within twenty-four

hours, so that they understand too

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what their action items are as well.

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Number two is let them see inside of the

work, whether that is one weekly update,

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what's done, what's pending, what's

coming up, or actually letting them

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inside of your project management tool.

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all of that is extra visibility and

just open lines of communication.

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Number three is point out opportunities.

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Be a partner in your business,

whether that is just once a month

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tied to the goals that you're

actively working on, helping them

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see that you're paying attention.

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Four is the retainer rhythm, whether that

is like a yearly contract with somebody.

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Every single quarter, you're resetting

and sharing monthly initiatives.

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New ideas get swapped.

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You can put things in the parking lot

instead of feeling the pressure to squeeze

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them in and really overload yourself.

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And then number five is helping you

with the retention and marketing that

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is lowest hanging fruit, which is

turning your results into receipts.

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I Always do an audit right before you

start with your client so that you

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have the ongoing year over year, month

over month progress that you're making.

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And then asking them for testimonials

that the next time that you're kind

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of like, "Hey, this is amazing.

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We should share this."

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You do not have to do all five of these.

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I think picking one or two is really

gonna help with Really building out a

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client experience that helps you help

them, without having you do everything.

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So if you want step one handled for

you, that's meeting Maestro Miles.

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He is our AI assistant.

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We've separated him from the Lab.

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You can join the Lab too, but if you

want him separately, you can grab him.

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He's only $14, and he helps

you prep every single meeting.

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He sends you the recap after, pulls

the transcript himself, and wraps

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your day so nothing you've committed

to is stuck sitting in your head or

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worrying you right before you go to bed.

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So, if you liked this episode and it hit

home, send it to your business bestie.

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And until next week, we're

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Jessica: rooting for you.

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