Redefining Yourself: The Power of Embracing Your Strengths with Teresa Lisum

In this episode we get curious about:

• Embracing and enhancing our strengths
• The Gallup Strengths assessment as a transformational tool
• Supporting women to step into their power
• Redefining oneself in the fifties
• The importance of women's empowerment

In this inspiring conversation with Teresa Lisum, we explore the power of embracing our strengths and how it can transform lives, especially for women entering new chapters. Teresa, a strengths-focused coach, shares how the Gallup assessment can be a life-changing tool, helping individuals tap into their unique qualities and step into their power. We discuss the importance of women supporting each other, redefining ourselves in our fifties, and the incredible impact this can have on the world.

Learn more about our guest:

Bio: Teresa Lisum, an educator with years of experience, has transformed herself into a beacon of hope and positivity. With several therapeutic modalities like Reiki, Pranic Healing, and laughter yoga, in her toolbox, Teresa complements it all by a profound understanding of essential oils. Now, armed with her intuition, diverse training, and a coaching certification in "unleashing your superpowers," Teresa offers a refreshing perspective on personal thriving. Rather than dwelling on weaknesses, Teresa empowers us to celebrate our strengths authentically. She invites us to revel in our zone of genius, embracing the unique talents that define us. Committed to leaving a healing legacy, Teresa passionately uplifts and inspires women to be their best selves—confident, powerful, resilient, and aligned. Her message is clear: believe in yourself and strategize from a place of strength.

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Interview Episode with Teresa Lisum

Teresa offers a refreshing perspective on personal thriving rather than dwelling on weaknesses. Teresa empowers us to celebrate our strengths authentically. She invites us to revel in our zone of genius, embracing the unique talents that define us. Committed to leaving a healing legacy, Teresa passionately [00:02:00] uplifts and inspires women to be their best selves.

Confident, powerful, resilient, and aligned. Her message is clear. Believe in yourself. And strategize from a place of strength. I love that.

Teresa: Hmm.

Laurin: Teresa. Welcome to Curiously Wise.

Teresa: Thank you so much for having me, man. That sounded awesome.

Laurin: You are awesome. Own it, own it.

Teresa: you. I'm so delighted to be here. Thank you.

Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. So I, I want to just really dive in. I am intrigued with the word superpowers because I used to run a women's circle and one of the things that I would do is as a, an icebreaker sometimes would ask people what their superpowers were. And it was always interesting to see how they were defined.

So I really want to know how you came to discover your superpowers, if we can start there.

After I initially got my top five strengths and it was just like, Oh my God, this is so cool. Like I love these and yes, that is me, but okay. Then I put them on the back burner, didn't know what to do with them. So once I kind of decided to really focus on. The strengths concept as a whole, and just really delve into it some more because it really resonated with me.

Like, damn girl, you sound good, you know, but I didn't have that concept prior to that because I was always struggling with my self confidence and. You know, self worthiness, that whole bag of, you know, negative judgmental self talk.

Laurin: Yeah.

Of course, I want to help everybody else see their strengths and see themselves from a new perspective and really enjoy being their unique selves.

Laurin: Yeah. That's great. It's so funny. I had to write down a note to go back and look at my strengths because I took that test. I don't think I ever got the full 34, but I got the top five and I read them and I thought that was interesting. And now I can't even remember what they are because I haven't gone back to them.

So having all of them available is even more powerful and just really spending time and embracing your strengths and getting to know them and seeing how they pop up in your life is really very powerful. I've heard some really transformative stories from other people that have been through this process and.

Went through the training with me. Yeah, it's, it can be very, very eye opening, very powerful.

Laurin: yeah, yeah. It's because that's something I've become really aware of is that the way I move through the world, other people find it very odd.

Teresa: Mm hmm.

Laurin: And I find how they move to the world very odd. How do you work in the world in that way? And so that really resonates with me that, that We need to all embrace our individualistic or individualized strengths.

So

So that gives us you know, more grace for them and more acceptance of them and allowing, at least for me, it allows me to be more forgiving and, oh, they just don't think like that, like I do. And that's okay. So for me, that was a side benefit. And then being able to communicate myself better to somebody else who doesn't understand the way I think it was very helpful.

Gave me like a language to talk about myself to other people to give them clarity. So am

So I, I've been talking about perspective a lot in the last year or two. And so that's, that's where I see this overlap. It's like, that's another piece of information that would give me even more perspective on the people in my life.

Teresa: It's just a tool to me. It's a really powerful tool, but it's just another tool. There's lots of tools out there, you know, that can help us be more self aware. And I really think that self awareness is needs to be our starting point. And then we're, you know, more again, more forgiving, more grace field towards other people.

Once we understand ourselves in a more deeper way.

You know it's a conversation. That's not happening anymore.

Teresa: Right, right. You're exactly right. Yeah, and I was just going to tag on to that and the thought escaped me, but it won't come back

Laurin: And they

Teresa: keep on talking and I'll, I'll pop back in.

Laurin: So I'm, I'm just curious maybe if you could share a couple of your strengths with us. Maybe, maybe something that surprised you.

But we don't see it because it's so natural and organic. You know, like what's the saying, you don't see the forest because of the trees. So you don't see your own greatness because it's just like, eh, doesn't everybody think like that?

Laurin: Right. Yeah. How am I so different from everybody else? This is just the way it goes.

Teresa: And, and I didn't want to, I, my thought kind of came back, like, it's okay to be different.

We're here to be different. We've been trained, taught, whatever, society has given us the impression that we all need to be the same, similar, conforming, in the same box. And we don't. I mean, that's totally opposite why we're here. We're here as our own unique selves for a reason, and we need to know and understand that.

And that would help with that communication, like we already said,

Laurin: Yeah.

Teresa: accepting and not judging other people.

Laurin: Right.

Laurin: different opinions. We can have different ways of moving through the world. It doesn't mean you're right and I'm wrong or I'm right and you're wrong. It's just

Teresa: Exactly. Exactly. And the faster we accept that and understand that, yeah, this world will be a much better place. And it's moving in that direction.

Laurin: Yeah. I think it is too.

Teresa: understanding that and it's just going to amplify even more in the future. But I, I, you wanted me to share some of my strengths.

So. My first one, my number one is input. So input is one, a person of high input loves information, loves gathering, loves sifting through information, loves collecting information, people, ideas, things,

Laurin: Mm hmm.

And then I love sharing that information with other people. You know, that's I love that. And I, sometimes I don't understand, like, I got this cool piece of information here. But then they don't want it. They don't receive it. Like I want them to have it, you know, so I've had to come to grips with that, like ask permission first.

And then if they're open to receive, then I can share the information. So that's my number one. And the number one strength is where we have the highest energy. It really energizes us and makes us really happy when we're you know, doing, using that one strength. And then positivity for me is really, really high.

And prior to really understanding my strengths, I just thought, well, that's how I live. I see the glass is half full, you know, that whole

Laurin: Mm hmm.

So I now have learned that. See that it's a real powerful strength, especially in the last couple of years. A lot of people were seeing things from a very dark negative space, but I was able to naturally see all the good things that were happening. All the miracles that were taking place, all the positive outcomes.

Laurin: So that's going to lead me to ask you a question, because I was super not positive when I was younger and into my adulthood and into my middle ages. And in the last four or five years, I have discovered that I really like to look at the bright side of things,

Teresa: Oh yeah.

Laurin: and I know I've been doing a lot of healing work.

Now, I know that some of that can happen as you, just as you age, that you change your perspective change. You get more wisdom, you've got more experience, but I'm wondering if you do see that people's strengths change over the course of time.

Teresa: and there's some debate within our strengths community, and we have had these discussions, but yes, I mean, we're, we're different people. We grow over time, right? Hopefully, we want to evolve. We want to become a better version of ourselves over time. I don't want to be that person I was 10, 20 years ago.

Even 5 years

Laurin: Mhm. Mhm.

And there may be some point in time where you're like, oh, I know I'm a different person. I need to redo this assessment just to see how things have kind of reshuffled. And that's what I did. I took my first assessment. Five, six years ago, learn to love it and embrace it. That was a process. Took me some time to love some of them and embrace and accept some of them.

And then just this past year, I decided to do it again. I just was curious to see what, if anything had shifted because I was a different person I was when I first took them, took that assessment. And yes, some things did change. There was a couple that. Really dropped lower and a couple that came up because we really focus on the top 10 strengths.

So, if you made that choice, that positivity was going to be important part of your life, then, yes, 1 of that strength would have come up a lot higher within that report.

So I guess I'm fascinated. Now I'm going to have to go find the book that's got my report in it.

Teresa: Yeah. And if you, if you go to the Gallup website and if you can, you just log back in and it'll still be there.

Laurin: Oh, okay. That's good.

Teresa: and then you will have to pay to upgrade to get them to open up the entire thing, you know, cause they're going to make money.

Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. That's

Teresa: So, but it is really fascinating. It's. Everybody I talked to that we have gone over their strengths, like 99 percent of the time, they're like, oh, yeah.

Boom, boom, boom, you know, there are people that they're just like a popcorn machine with their ideas. They can just pop them up. That's not me, but

Laurin: That's not me either. I can get creative, but not that

Teresa: Now this is interesting because I rated, so relationship builder is my dominant domain. So I love to connect with people. People energize me.

I do my best thinking and coming up with ideas when I'm interacting with people,

Laurin: Me too.

Teresa: but I didn't know that. Prior to understanding my strengths report and my superpowers. So I refer to them as my superpowers only because I just wanted it to be really fun.

Laurin: Yeah. No, I love that. I love

Teresa: so so once I understood that, like, if I'm sitting by myself and, you know, for days, I can feel my energy just drop.

Why am I depressed? You know, whatever now I understand that I need that balance between the 2

Laurin: Mm hmm.

Teresa: My downtime, but I also need that people time and I need to have a nice balance between the two of them for me personally.

Laurin: . So now I'm curious because years ago I was introduced to the Myers Briggs personality. Test my mom was studying it and she, she had all of us take it. And that was when I discovered I was an introvert.

Teresa: Mm

Teresa: Mm-Hmm.

Laurin: extrovert. You need connections with others. I grew up in with two parents who were raging extroverts. My brother and I were introverts. It was made for an interesting family dynamic. But so I'm just, I'm just curious about how, what you're, what you're talking about. I don't know if you're an introvert or an extrovert or, you know, or if you even bring that into the mix here, but because it's, it always surprises me when I enjoyed this so much.

But then I want to go and be by myself for a while.

Laurin: Okay.

Teresa: Assessment. I have heard people mention it. I might have done it years ago, but I don't remember any of that.

Laurin: The only piece of it that really resonated for me was the introvert because I didn't know. I just thought I was weird.

Teresa: well, that's a talk that we that's negative self talk.

Laurin: know.

Teresa: want to do that. But I'm just wondering, was that introvert that you and your, your brother were, was that a reaction to the fact that your parents were so heavily Extroverted because I know when my mom was around, I always felt like I was in her shadow.

Laurin: That's it. That's an interesting thought. Yeah. My brother lives in the back of beyond Arkansas. I mean,

Teresa: oh, really

Laurin: to drive a long way away from anything to get there. And he's been there since the, the seventies. I'm not quite that, that much of a hermit, but so that's interesting. I never thought about that.

I just, yeah, I don't know, but it's an interesting thing to think about.

Teresa: so I wanted to say for me, like. Like, once we have that, we count up your strengths and we put them into one or two or three domains, which is just categories. One domain is relationship builder, which I already mentioned. I'm a heavy relationship builder. People energize me. Another category is strategic thinking.

Now, can that be interpreted as in introverted? Probably,

Laurin: Mm hmm.

Teresa: that's just what they enjoy doing. That's what energizes them is being in their head. And then another category or domain is executing. So, a person who is a high executor loves to just take action, do, do, do, and think about it later, you know, so they get their energy from action, doing, you know, processes, making lists, checking off their lists and, you know, moving them forward that way.

But so I have a mix between the relationship builder domain and the strategic thinking. That's why I said, I need to balance between those 2. I need my down alone time, but I also need that energizing people time. If you were that same or a similar way, that could be what's happening for you.

Laurin: Okay.

Teresa: Somebody could be a relationship builder high with an executor as their secondary domain.

Let's go. Let's do this. You know, like, so back, they could be labeled as labeled as an extrovert. I don't know. I never really followed those paths very closely, but you can see where you would make your own interpretation.

Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. No. And I, this is one of my superpowers is putting a puzzle together. I

Teresa: might have a ranger very high. A ranger is a strength that is a person who loves putting the pieces together. They love arranging. So, I wonder if you have a ranger high.

Teresa: might be a joy to you, but not to him. You know, it just depends.

Laurin: No, I think he likes it. Because he's he's got interesting ideas and they come from these odd connections that

Teresa: And that could be high strategic. So, there's a strength labeled strategic, and they connect the dots. They can see the patterns. That other people might not see.

Laurin: Yeah. Okay. Wow. See, that one surprises me because I wouldn't think of myself as strategic, but that's what I do. I see the patterns that other people don't see.

Teresa: There you go. Now, you're going to have to take that a

Laurin: I have to take it.

Teresa: your assessment and we're going to have to take a look at it and see if I'm right on or not, which I could be. And I might not be, but

Laurin: We'll see.

Teresa: and it's also how they weave together. So you have these. Strengths. So, like I said, we like to look at the top 10.

you know, in your life. So it's just so fun and so exciting.

Laurin: It is. It's really fascinating.

Teresa: it. It is. It is very

Laurin: I took that test and I was like, yeah, that's interesting, but I don't know what to do with that. But, but I can see now where it would be really, really helpful to fine tune where I want to do my work on where my strengths are rather than trying to do it according to the way other people are doing

Teresa: Yeah, exactly.

Laurin: working for me.

Laurin: Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Teresa: yeah, so that's one of the end goals or the end results is doing things according that align with our strength.

Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. And that's something that's another thing that's been in my, the front of my mind lately is like, I need to just invent my own way of doing things in business.

Teresa: And the funny thing is, I have to remind myself that because there's so much, there's so much information that we're a bombarded with, especially if you're in the business world, you got people all the time telling you, make it to 10 million dollars a month. This is what I did. You know, they offer all these programs.

And opportunities for you to do what they're doing. And so I have to, like, literally tell myself. No, that's their way of doing it. Like, if I'm creating something, let's just say a flyer or whatever that I want to, you know, or a post or something and I'm thinking of all these other people and how they do it.

Laurin: I love it.

Teresa: So I'm like, Oh my God, this is so fun. So I had to literally give myself permission to just go with that, you know, and not worry about being like other people.

So I have to constantly remind myself that.

Laurin: good. I'm glad to know that because I'm just kind of getting there. I've, I've been learning how to be an entrepreneur since the pandemic hit. I, you know, I knew how to, I was a novelist for a long time and I knew how that business worked and I, I had mastered that. And then I learned how to be healer and I knew how to do the healing work, but not the business.

So yeah. Yeah.

Teresa: me. I'm right there with you.

No, no, no. Let me see. What's my strengths. What are my strengths and how can I play to those

Teresa: Right. Right. Use. I like to say use them with intention because they're there for us. Where are we are infinitely unique. We're the only person on the planet with those strengths that line above strengths. And we like, yeah, I need to keep reminding myself that so I can take a piece of somebody else's process or whatever.

But how can I adapt it for me? How can I play it to my strength or use it within accordance to my strengths? So, yeah, it can get really, really deep. Depending on how much you want to delve into it, you know, and go with it and use them again, to move us forward. And like I said, in business or in our relationships or whatever.

Laurin: Right. Right. That's the piece I've struggled with the most.

Teresa: Yeah. And I do want to say it is awesome within a family unit. If a family needs each other's strengths,

Laurin: I can

Teresa: that is a beautiful thing.

Laurin: it's, it's, and that's something I know intuitively, I, I understood about my husband and me, we have very different areas of strength, but they work together so well, you know, his, his are where my weaknesses are his strengths and my, and his weaknesses are my strengths. And, and because we've been together for over 40 years, we've gotten really good at playing to who can do this thing better, who, you know, who should take on this part or who should.

You know, plan the party, you know, that kind of thing.

Teresa: I've been together that about that length of time as well, and we still haven't figured out

Laurin: oh,

Laurin: yeah, well,

Teresa: to you, you guys are ahead of me.

Laurin: well, I think we got lucky.

Teresa: But I do want to, you mentioned the word weakness, and I do want to just say that we don't use that word within the strengths community. Well, I'm just calling it that because I don't know what else to call it, but we, there's these 34 strengths. Our lowest ones are not considered weaknesses. They're just not where we want to spend our time.

And they might be de-energizing to us and they might actually suck our energy out, but that doesn't mean. They're bad or they're weaknesses. It's just we don't need to worry about them because we have this zone of genius where we operate best from and give us the energy we need to do everything, you know, so the other strengths are just.

Laurin: I like that. That's. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense to me. It's something that we, I think are not trained in as a culture to, to, to look that way as opposed to, you know, we look at what, what needs to be fixed. What are you not doing? Right. What is wrong with you? What is wrong with this?

Teresa: Exactly.

Laurin: And it's more of that changing perspective again.

Teresa: and then we grow up with all these negative things in our head about ourselves. And yeah, we react in a way that's not healthy for us or anybody else. But yeah, and I don't want to get into the society and culture as a whole,

Laurin: Yeah.

And then over time that erodes away and we somehow shift to, Oh, we need to get you a tutor in math because you're not really good at that. You know, so we're more focused on. We'll say weaknesses again, even though I don't like that word, but the things that are, we're not good at, and we try to buff those up and make those better when we really should be just focused on those, our strengths and what we are good at and buff those up and shine those up.

I mean, can you imagine if I was given that opportunity? I'd be a whole different person, you know, maybe really my literal best version of myself way before now, instead of waiting this long in my life to get there, you know?

Laurin: So, if somebody wants to work with you, what does it look like when you work with a client? Obviously, you have them take this test.

Laurin: Mm hmm.

Teresa: tests that seems to have negative connotation. So I prefer and it is called an assessment, but, but everybody else calls it a test, you know, but you'd have to pay them because they have the technology they've done the research and then they spew out that report.

So, that is our starting point. So anybody could go take that. Just open up your wallet, give them your credit card, and they'll, they'll do it for you. It takes about a half hour, and you have, I think, 20 seconds for each question, and they give you, it's almost like an either or, this or that, you know, like.

And then if you want to dig in deeper, then we would work on 1 on 1 for right now. I'm trying to change that into like a group type of the

Laurin: hmm. Mm

Teresa: but I, I really this can be applied to so many types of people. I mean, anybody can benefit from this assessment. So I've been really trying to hone down to, you know, like, a smaller audience.

Laurin: hmm.

Teresa: Or I can see it really being helpful, but yeah, I can work in any situation, but yeah, just get your report to me, connect with me. We can talk on the phone or over zoom and then decide from there how much more you want to get into it.

Teresa: But I am moving towards women specifically. I love working with women because I think more women need a voice.

They need more self confidence. They need to step into their own power.

Laurin: Mm hmm. Mm hmm.

Teresa: More so in the future, and I can see this being really positive, a positive tool and resource to help them step into their powers. So,

Laurin: Yeah. I can, I, I mean, my brain's going, Oh, and this group would, and this was, I'm thinking if every kid was given that before they started applying for college or got to high school even, how can we help them to leverage their strengths?

Teresa: For sure. I wish I had this information way, way earlier in my life, especially like you said, as a young adult, I would love for young adults, high end of high school, beginning of college, you know, right in

Laurin: hmm. Mm

Laurin: Yeah.

Teresa: in their life.

Laurin: Yeah. And yeah, and I think we, we get bombarded with so many things that you could do, especially now with, you know YouTube and everything coming at us and, and socials and stuff. We see so many different ways of, of moving through the world that. It gets a little overwhelming. Okay. It gets a lot of overwhelming for some of us.

Teresa: Yep. Mm-Hmm.

Laurin: And, you know, I think back to when, when you and I were probably coming out of, of college and, and even that was overwhelming to try to figure out what to do. And, and we didn't have nearly as many. I think there were plenty of options, but we didn't know about them.

Teresa: Yeah. Yep. Exactly. And now there's even more

And she said, why don't you take this? And then maybe that'll help us to kind of understand. you know, what the, what the focus on. And then I did that and I handed it to her and I didn't really think about it again. And so

Teresa: what most people do. It's just what some people will find certain things that they resonate with, and then they'll want to dig deeper into it. So it sounds like you would like to revisit that. I had to go in and out of that until I decided to. Really get serious about it. So yeah, it's, it happens to everybody until they make that choice and that decision that, yeah, I really love this.

I want to learn more about

Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's very cool.

Teresa: It is cool.

Laurin: Is there anything we have not talked about that you want to bring forth? Mm

As the previous identity is now attached to something that old chapter and now there's new chapter. They don't know who they are

Laurin: Right.

Teresa: you know, their identity was back there or maybe they need a new identity. They didn't like that one, you know? So that's kind of where my focus has been. Maybe the last several months is helping women get through that,

Laurin: Mm hmm.

Laurin: I love that. Yeah. I love to work with women and I want them, I want them to feel better,

Teresa: Yes, exactly.

Laurin: more confident, more, more, you know, I don't know, just more, just more of themselves.

Teresa: Yep. For

Laurin: So that's a good,

Teresa: we need to, we need to dominate the world more.

Laurin: Well, and I mean, I'm, I'm starting to bring out a program probably in the spring that I'm calling illuminated leaders and it's aimed at women because I think that we really need to embrace how women lead.

And bring it into the world in a ginormous way. And so I'm very much, I'm, I'm kind of like you, I'm like, I want, I want everybody to feel as good and strong and powerful as they can because we need you ladies out there.

Laurin: we're going to have fun.

Teresa: yeah, for sure. Cause I just see, I've seen a lot of women. From my past that are playing very small and they're in the background and they have desires and wishes and things that they want, but they don't share them with anybody because, you know, their role was, mother nurturing second command, whatever, you know. And, and I really would love to see them just, it's just a whole group together and feel our best selves and be our best selves. And I think magical things will happen when we all join together and see ourselves from a new perspective.

Laurin: yes, yeah. And I just want to give a shout out to any woman who is going into her fifties. Because there's something magical about that 50th birthday.

Teresa: Yep.

Teresa: Yep. Yep. And it's, yeah, we can have a whole nother conversation about that.

Laurin: would be super powerful because you're looking, you're looking what, okay, now what's next. You know, it's like, what do I, what do I want to be? Who do I want to be? Who do, what do I want to do? What do I want to bring forth into the world?

Teresa: Yep.

Laurin: All of those things that were subsumed by family and raising a family and, and paying the mortgage and all that.

So I just want to call out those of you who are moving into your fifties or maybe in your fifties. You need to do this because I think it would be huge. I'm, I'm in my early sixties now and I've kind of figured out some of it, but I still see where that's going to be hugely useful. So

Teresa: Yes. Women unite.

Laurin: yes, absolutely.

Teresa: So I, you can find me on Facebook. I don't do Instagram. I just, it was just not a platform I've ever taken to LinkedIn. I've been there quite a lot recently. YouTube. I have YouTube channel. You can go subscribe, follow me there. So yeah, that's probably about it right now.

Laurin: All right. And what's, what is your website? You have a website. I can't

I can, I plug that

Laurin: Yes, please do.

Teresa: That's it's called evolving women. It's just new. It's only on YouTube for right now, but I have different. Guest co host, or we just talk, we just do this exactly what we're doing here. We just talk about different things and try to add new perspectives for other women to see things differently, plant some seeds, think about things that they might not have thought about before.

So

Laurin: Lovely.

Teresa: very similar. Love it. Yeah. Love this. Love you. I love what you're doing out there in the world. This has been so fun.

Laurin: Yes. Yeah. Thank you for being here with us and for having this. I always have these most amazing conversations and I always say that, but it's always true. I get, I am so lucky that I get to talk to so many amazing, mostly women, but but men and women, it's just, it's been such a gift of, of zoom.

Laurin: Yes. All right, friends. Thank you for joining me and Teresa today for this amazing strengths focused conversation. I will, I will get the link for the Gallup assessment. I was going to say test assessment, and I will put that in the show notes as well. And I invite you to go check out Teresa's work.

She's she's. Clearly very talented at what she does. And I I'm just really happy you were here with me today,

Teresa: know, I, it's been an honor and a pleasure. Thank you so much for this opportunity,

Laurin: All right. We'll see you the next time. And in the meantime, stay curious.

It helps us be found by others. If you're curious to learn more about me or my healing practice, heartlight wellness, head over to my website at heartlightjoy. com. Until next time, I'm Laurin Wittig. Stay curious.