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How to Handle Big Triggers & Fears at Work
Episode 2282nd January 2024 • The 200% Life • Adam Hergenrother
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Imposter syndrome, public speaking, getting fired, making a mistake—nearly 9 in 10 employees suffer from fears related to their work, and business owners aren’t immune to these fears either. This week, we delve into these various fears and triggers in the workplace, uncovering their links to deeply-rooted Samskaras. While confronting and releasing these energy blockages might result in temporary discomfort or pain, doing so will ultimately lead to a more fulfilled life and better handling of work-related stress and fears.

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Actually, the second flood in the state of Vermont, uh, actually in all of New England. And the people have been watching the news or on Instagram or on TikTok and Is TikTok a thing? Do they put it on TikTok or no? I don't know what TikTok is. But I saw all these on like all the different social media platforms.

People kept sending me these things that are happening in Vermont. We had towns that were evacuated from the flooding. And we had like three to four inches of rain. in like a 24 hour period of time and as much as there is obviously I don't believe anybody actually had like lost their lie I don't think there was anything like that but there was a lot of damage done to a lot of property I couldn't help but think I was watching some of the rivers even the rivers near our house ones that we go into a lot how quickly they started overflowing and the energy that was that was being pushed through the river and just taking everything with it and there's you know a lot of times in ancient scriptures They talk about how, um, rivers can be an analogy to how your energy flow inside kind of removes all of your, you know, your, some scars, your drama, your scars that are in there and kind of removes them.

And I thought it was a really, um, when I'm watching this, I'm just, I'm just seeing it and, and kind of play in my own head how things happened, uh, as these rivers grabbed everything in its path. Mm-Hmm, , right? It didn't matter what it was, it could be a boat. It could, I saw them take like concrete. Pillars down, it was taking huge culverts, which are things that go underneath roads.

I saw one of them actually, I don't know if you saw this one, and that was in Maine, it took the whole bridge away. No. It was just so much energy that kind of just, it just removed all this stuff. And a lot of the times that we, when we, we hint on this almost every podcast that we ever do about when you relax, you release, which we're going to get into today, and act, what you're actually doing is almost what the rivers were doing, just in an unfortunate way.

They were taking and creating. And removing things, but as you open more, you have more energy flows, energy flows through it.

The drama, the samskaras, we'll get into that word, but just the, anything that you've stored in there, right? That has been causing a problem, um, and the more you open up, the more it takes, but guess what happens when that, that occurs, is you actually start to, um, feel more intense pain the more you open and the more it pushes things through.

The more that you, the more that you, you tend to open up. You're, you're energy ways. Like you can, you can feel it, especially like if you're going through an event, which today we want to talk about how do you handle, you know, triggers and fears at workplaces. Because I think that's a big common one that you're going to get into citing a survey here.

But when you get into the actual leasing of that part, it's, it's really the same thing. Let's say you're pushing these things away that are blocking your energy so that the energy can flow more freely, but in order to remove. So that the energy constantly and permanently flows through there, you go through this deeper level of pain.

That's why people refer to it as the pain that passes. All pain, the pain that releases all pain, and that's because in order to push it out, you have to experience it, and it's the same thing in these rivers, and again, it's, it's, it's a little bit different, but it's the same kind of concept, it's just pushing everything out of its way, and it's removed everything, and now it's got a clear channel, of course, it doesn't, it's not helpful for the mechanical nature of We have to rebuild a bridge, but it's the same flow, just when you have this rush of energy to come through there, it's allowing you to kind of push this energy through

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Yeah, that's a really powerful analogy. And just thinking about how the river does clear and then after it's the trees that were in the way are gone. Everything's gone. Just flows more

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And that's why it's never about a particular instance that opens you up. Those are wonderful things, but how do you permanently remove these things, right? And I think work, I've always said from the beginning that business is nothing but a conduit for your personal growth. And so what does that really mean, right?

Let's jump in today, which is really about how do you handle big triggers and fear at

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Um, and so the survey found 87 percent to be exact of people have work related fears. And I was talking about this with my husband Rick last night and he said, Oh yeah. And the other 13 percent are lying because it's just like human experience to have fears. Triggered at work. So there was an article in Business Insider that listed some of those common fears.

So they were imposter syndrome, fear of failure, public speaking, making decisions, taking responsibility, getting fired, being disliked, not being in the know, not having as much talent as your colleagues, making a mistake, not being able to handle your workload, hitting an income plateau, jealous of other success.

Not having the influence that you want. Um, and then I was wondering too, from a business leader, CEO perspective, are there other ones that you would say that are specific to people who are running organizations beyond this list?

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I think people always have these fears of, I mean, imposter syndrome for owners and executives is a big one. Which basically means, as you grow a business, um, you start to realize that you need people more than they need you. And then you realize that you're not quite as good as you thought you were.

Because in the beginning, a lot of times you can, you can, with your own energy and charisma and kind of drive, get a business to a certain size. But at some point you have to turn it over and you realize your people are actually helping you drive the entire business. And it's not just one person. It's every individual that's helping there.

And so you almost feel like I'm supposed to be this leader. Oh my gosh, I'm supposed to be this business owner that is getting praise or getting an award or whatever it is, your name's in the paper, for good or bad. Um, I'm supposed to be this person and I don't really feel like I'm that level of what people give me credit for.

It's almost like people put you up on a, on a pedestal, especially with people that are really wealthy and are in the news a lot. They think they're somehow like they're some gift. I remember the first job that I ever had, um, I'm not sure I ever shared this, it was, uh, I was a commercial underwriter. You know, I did this for like 90 days, and um, that's actually how I, I, Quasi got into real estate.

. This was back in:

And I didn't say it that way, but that's literally was my impression of like, I can't wait to meet them. They must have some superpower. And I really thought they did, like, I just assumed that that's what they were. And as I, and part of my job was to actually communicate a lot with these people and listen to them and kind of discuss it.

And, you know, of course they were, you know, in their, at that time, you know, forties, fifties and sixties. And I started meeting with them and I realized not only because. of the interactions I was having, but they were also sharing, like, I don't have all the answers. And they were also admitting some of their mistakes, or I started just realizing that they weren't.

The people that I thought they were, right? And I don't mean that from a negative perspective, I just mean it was my own blocking, thinking that like somehow only this was reserved for people that had some special gift that was there. It was the first turning point in my life of really realizing like, well, I can actually do this.

Like, of course I can. I may have different strengths than somebody else, but I can go out there and do this. And then it started just advancing as you got more into business and you meet with people that are worth a hundred million. Multiple billions and you just start meeting with them and you realize they're the same way, right?

It's they have consistency. They make better decisions. They make really good decisions. They also just never give up. I know it's such a. You know, interesting line that used to be very popular and I still use it because it's really business building is surviving mistakes. I know we're kind of going down this tangent, but that's really from a, from a, like an imposter syndrome standpoint, it's like, you, you just believe that you're in your own mind.

It's a thought, right? It's a thought that's generated. You buy into the thought of thinking that you should be something more. And then this causes a different level of action for you to take. And this is why people start to feel inauthentic. They start to feel like they're not having value because they feel like they need to go and do and prove to them.

So that's why they end up starting something new or trying to do something else or trying to be creative or trying to be the one with all the answers, which isn't, it doesn't, sometimes that's accurate, but majority of the time, I don't care whoever's sitting in the room. If there's enough smart people in the room, there should be a combination of everyone's solutions that should go into that, that actually usually makes the best decision.

Uh, and the more you can understand that and see that, the more you're willing to allow the organization to make its best decision

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And everything in the building that there was resiliency to do that over and

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How do you make decisions? And really, we've, we've talked a lot about this before, but making decisions, the reason why people struggle with making decisions so much is because they're trying to mentally play out the mini movie in their head of, if I make this decision, how is it going to hit my stuff? If I make this decision, how is it going to hit my stuff?

And it's almost like you're playing it out to see how your inner experience will respond so that then you can make the one that you feel is going to give you the best inner experience at some future point. That's what really people are doing. And you're not interacting with the moment. Exactly. You're interacting with yourself.

That's exactly right. That's why it's the ego is again, it's being egoic is not about like some showing off because you have a car. I mean, that's a form of a louder ego, but ego is really about how am I going to feel from this? About anything. It could be about like, why does my kid act this way? Right. Or why, why do, why does my road not get plowed?

Right. I mean, it's as simple as the thing is. It's just, you realize it's about how the world should interact for me instead of how the world's just interacting. That's really the kind of definition that

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It isn't a Samskara? Like what is it from like this kind of bigger, larger philosophy about spirituality and business at work? Like you use the word Samskara a lot. Is that what every fear is? Is it a Samskara? You know,

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It's a great opportunity for us to grow personally or spiritually, because there's a lot of things we don't sign up for, right? And again, we just highlighted all of those, those deep emotions, these triggers at work that happen to most people, I don't know, multiple times a day,

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And is it less for you now?

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And that's usually the trigger that happens. It instantaneously kind of hits. It's there. What I like to think about is Kind of like writing on water, which is like, you know, it's there for a moment, but then it kind of recedes. The Dalai Lama talks about his sacred pause when something triggers him. He, cause they asked him in his book, um, you know, him and Desmond Tutu, who they wrote that book together, the book of joy.

And he talks about his sacred pause, which is within three seconds, he wants to release the energy. He doesn't say the release the energy, but what he says is when something triggers me, he goes, do you still get angry? He said, yes. Right. Do I still get mad? I think you said mad. He said, yes, I do. The difference is within three seconds, it's gone.

And so I think it's the same thing here. There's plenty of things that trigger me at work, but when they do, it's just, I just, you remind yourself like, okay, the event happened. Part of being witness conscious, though, is that people use that word a lot. Being a witness conscious is Experiencing what you're experiencing.

It's not about trying to get a certain experience. So the more the witness cautious you are of just looking at things, you're going to feel that. And so if you're feeling that and you pretend that you don't feel it because you're supposed to be spiritual, that is, you're now suppressing. Now you're expressing these things versus if you are, if you're, if you're witness conscious, if you're just having a state that you can see everything, you notice the fact that all of a sudden you're now triggered, right?

That's all you're doing. But in that moment when it's no longer happening, so you just read an email, You get on a phone call. You're off of it. It should be gone. If it's not in the objective conscious of what you're seeing, it should just start to move away. It doesn't mean like instantaneously, but it may take you a minute or two, but how quickly can you release it?

I always try to play this game, which is like, well, that was a big trigger. How fast can I get back to my seat of self? Meaning or how about how fast can I get back to where this is no longer bothering and I just go back to what we talk about which is how quickly can you just handle the situation.

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A samskara is a stored energy. Remember Back up for a second. Every event that happens in life is energy, right? Everything. Whether it's, you know, you're driving down the road and you see a tree, that's an energy event, right? Scientists, psychologists, spiritualists. Anybody in the world is going to tell you that everything is now revolved around energy, right?

Science is exactly like, so we all realize everything is some form of energy, right? So when an event happens, like if as you're listening to this right now, an event's happening, that is energy that people are Breaking down into hydrogens and atoms and nucleons and all these different things that are happening to create whatever it creates, a carbon molecule, whatever you want to refer to it as, and then that's how you experience it, right?

So, this event occurs, and you experience it, which has an energy component to it, it's a pattern, just like every snowflake is unique. I don't know this, but every snowflake has its own pattern to it, its own nature to it. Just like every tree has their own rings that are only to those trees. Just like every human has their own DNA sequence, right?

So every event is energy and it has this. So what happens when an energy event occurs, it starts to come in and you, as the experiencer of life, starts to experience it. As you experience it, you then are using your personal mind to go, Do I like this? Is this bothering me? Do I don't like this? Or is it just something that I just don't pay attention to?

And the reality is, is, and what most people don't think about, is 99 percent of what happens in a day doesn't bother them. Even things that are around there, they're peripheral. Of course, 99. 999 percent of things that happen in the world don't bother you, right? Because, I mean, think about all the things that are happening right now.

And you're not being bothered by them. Even the things that you pay attention to, though. Like when you walked into this office today, like How many of the ceiling tiles bothering you, right? I mean, it's all the lights, any of these things, they just don't bother us. And so what we start to realize though, is that there are a handful of things that we either wanted to get, we didn't, or that we're trying to avoid and we got, and we don't like that feeling.

So when that energy starts to come in there, the energy feels different, right? Because you've now set up a stage the way you want life to be, and it's not happening that way. So therefore you're fighting and resisting it. That resistance caused the energy to almost freeze. And that energy, which then is the form of a circle, which is why the circle is one of the most powerful forms in the universe, because it can continue to move and stay in one spot, which is what a simscar essentially does.

It's a scar, right, that stays inside, that's blocking the flow of your energy. That's kind of when we started this, the analogy of the river. If the river It's completely clear, and you drop one boulder in, there's now some level of ripple. Even if it's the lowest level, at some level down there, the water now has to move around it.

Well, think about all the things that you've now stored that you didn't like that have happened in a 30 year period of time. I mean, billions, right? You know, millions of things that you've stored. Think about putting up every one of those things that you didn't, that you experienced that you didn't like.

Or the some of the things that you did like that you held on to, again, are still stored as well too, so it works both ways, but the majority of them are in a negative viewpoint. And you, let's imagine if you blocked an entire river like that, pretty soon there's just a trickle of energy flowing, right? And that's why when, then when life happens the way you really want it to, it's almost like it just, you open up.

A little bit. It's like you move the clouds away so the sun, a ray of light can come through. And it's the same way that your energy. And so the whole point of what's happening at work is that all of these stored energy things that are in there, when something happens outside, it hits one of them. And when it hits it, it releases the energy of that pattern.

And that energy has a certain component to it, right? That component is what I'm referring to as a feeling. And so if you stored it because you didn't like the experience because you didn't get a bike when you were six, when it gets hit at some point in the future, you're going to relive that experience because you didn't fully experience it when it happened because you didn't like it so you pushed it away.

It's still in

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[00:18:16] Adam: actual. That's exactly right.

Yeah. You're just, you're hitting some, the pattern of energy is stored, right? And you know, an example of this could be as like, you know, a deer eats grass, right? A wolf howls in the night, right? That's people like, oh wow, wolf's howling. It's just its nature to howl, right? Rabbits don't howl. So it's just, everything has its own nature.

And so, and everything has an energetic feeling to it. A wolf howling at one in the morning, if you're 30 yards away from it, will, will have an energetic feel that you feel, which is probably somewhat scary or somewhat euphoric based on your experiences, right? Versus a butterfly coming in or watching a deer frolic in the grass, probably has a different feeling associated with it.

So, as these events happen, you now have stored the ones that you like. I like watching, I like watching a deer frolic in the, in the snow. I don't like it when a wolf howls really close to me. It scares me because I don't like that experience, right? Whatever it is, I'm just using nature as an example, but it could be the same thing as I don't like the way this person at work emailed me.

I like the way this person emailed me. So now all of a sudden, anytime you ever get an email that's somewhat related to how that person originally emailed you, you take that as, as you, you're reliving that experience plus all the other ones that you had, which is why it feels even worse than it did the first time.

Because you've now stacked boulders on top of it. Because you keep storing it. So then of course, every time that you see an email with that person's name in it, or that starts with the same sentence, or is implying the same thing, you're now hit. And it becomes a fear or becomes a trigger at work, which is also why business is the great greatest conduit, because then you can go, okay, great.

Now I can get this out of here. So I can actually sit there and handle the reality of the situation. I can handle life.

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Or I don't like that feeling. But then, I mean, we were talking recently here where in, in Project You, how some of these samskaras literally feel like they're crushing you. I mean, it's like, you are going through a really intense inner experience. And like the river that you're describing here at the beginning, like it's feels all powerful.

And. Can be just a really, really big

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I don't mean you express it, which is different. I mean you who's in there is relaxed, but you're allowing the energetic event of that itself, which is again, think of it as just as a samskara. You think of it as samskara is just an energy pattern that has been inside you and you're just getting rid of it.

You know, one of the analogies that we use, um, is, you know, if you think about In the book, what you think about like a, a, if you had like a skunk in a fridge, right? Which is like at some point, you had to bring the skunk in the fridge and you put it in there. And now the skunk is in the fridge and it just sits in there.

And every day you come home and there is a smell that smells bad inside your house. So you Febreze it, you get candles, you put shrink wrap around the fridge. You're doing all this stuff every day to try to minimize the smell of the fridge. And you're trying to deal with it. So every time, you know, then you're, you're driving down the road and you smell a skunk and all of a sudden it reminds you of it.

It's the same thing. You have this one store energy of the skunk sitting in there and you spend all of your life trying to minimize or trying to work around the issue with it. Again, candles, skunks, you build an addition onto your house, right? All, you repaint your house trying to think it's going to go away.

You do all these things and every time you do one, by the way, you've convincing yourself or the ego is convincing you that this is the path. This is what you need to do. And to eventually you have to go one day, you have to go, well, the only way to really get the smell out is to remove the skunk. It's the same thing.

Really the only way to get rid of the fear. To get rid of the trigger that you're experiencing is to remove it from what is being inside you. And so the more, if you go over to the fridge and you open up the fridge, it's going to get worse before it gets better. Because now you've opened it, now it's in your hand where you're bringing it, and now it's going to smell a lot.

The same thing inside is when you're releasing one of these things, it's going to get hotter. It's going to feel more painful. It's going to feel like it's disturbing you more and it's going to feel like it can crush you. It almost feels like it's moving to the point of like it's piercing you, especially the bigger ones.

And they start moving through you, but that's how they, they, there's a pain that releases all pain. And it just, it, pain that passes all pain. It's some, some, some things like that, but it's like, it just constantly just, you have to move it out. And as you move it and you drop it off, then it's out forever. I actually once heard, I think Audie Shanti said this, where he used the Hercules.

It's a great example of how, um, they asked him to basically, you know, wash out all the stables, right? Oh yeah. Do you remember that example? And he basically said, like, you know, this is what got me thinking about the river analogy, where he said, you know, you've got to clean out all of, like, the, the entire stables from, like, they had a bunch of animals in there, and all the,

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Yes, that's right. And they, it was, like, a bunch of stables. I, this is a very loose interpretation. But it had a ton of manure. Yes, that's right. And they were, like, you have a Day to do it and it was like, yeah, it's not going to happen.

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And he actually accomplished the goal. Now, I don't know if it actually happened or was true, but it's the same thing here. If you can redirect your energy to push these things out, you're clean. And that's the same thing when I was thinking about this river, how much it was just taking this debris away.

You just stopped and realized. That's how easy it is to remove it from you than you. It's just, it's easy, but it's so hard. It's the hardest thing you'll ever do. Yeah, you know who

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And he said at the beginning of his spiritual journey, he would be like almost Powered. And he was also a psychologist. So he was very familiar with the inner world. And he would say that when things would hit me, I would almost be in my bathtub, just like, you know, in pain and agony, because the emotional aspect of it was so intense.

And then he said at towards the end of his spiritual journey, that it was like, when these things would happen, it was like he was watching down on a river. All right. And the river would flow between him, or below him rather, and occasionally a splash would come up and hit him, and he said, and I used to live in that river, but now it's just a splash, and then he moves on, you know.

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And remember. Just, if you get anything from this part of the podcast, this podcast at all, just remember that you, people wake up and the first thing they think about, which is, they don't say it this way. The first thing that people do, which is, how do I go and get the world in a, to operate, to unfold in a way that it's not going to hit too bad of my stuff inside?

Imagine, that's just what people, it's so sad, that's what people are doing, and that's why, when you first hear that, you go. Well, what's wrong with that? Of course I want to get it the way I want, because I feel better when I do. And that is a very common, that's why people that aren't, that obviously never listen to this podcast, not that they're, they don't have the ability to do that, but they just, they think that the only way to get To get this feeling inside going is to go get the world the way they want to and they spend their entire time doing that.

Until you start doing this deeper work, which you can do it through business, you can do it through anything, it's just life. You wake up one day and you realize, I've played this game, I've played this game of trying to go get what I want. In fact, I've gotten, no matter, most, 99 percent of people have gotten at some point many, many things they wanted and they're not permanently in a state of bliss.

I always joke when I'm asked that question on podcasts, I'm like, for me, when I had business as money, it was this 500, 000 income goal and I made it. I thought somehow like there was going to be like this fruit tree sitting outside my backyard like filling me with, you know, with just nothing but inner joy because that's what people like when, when people say go be successful, Adam, like if you go be successful, Caitlin, or for you go be successful, whoever it is that you're referring to, what they're saying is if you go out and be successful enough with enough accolades, titles, money, leverage, power, fame, You'll be able to better control the situations around you, so that you have a better sense of how it's going to hit you.

Which is true, you do. Like from a mechanical level, you have enough money to get people changed, don't they? People will operate the way you want them to with money, do everything you want them to with money, because they'll, you can control it that way. So you now, now, now are trapped with power, unless you realize you need to do the deeper work, which is then It doesn't matter if you have money or not money.

It doesn't matter, you know, the decisions that you're actually making. What matters is if you're willing to let that go, and you start being fed from within, or you start having that flow of energy be there, you don't need to make the same decisions for the same decisions that you're making. You just start making decisions for purely making decisions.

And that's where people get trapped, is that they just keep thinking that I have to wake up and go get the world the way I want it to, and it's exhausting. And this is why people have so much anxiety and so much stress in their lives. Because they're resisting. What is stress? Stress is resisting, like, there's a good stress in physicality.

If you go to the bench press, you're stressing against your muscles to rebuild them. And in life, what you're doing is you're, you're, you're stressing against what is actually happening outside because it's not the way you want it to be. And so therefore, you instantly create this stress, which creates this internal turmoil that you have.

And then the only way you see out of that, which is the patterns that you've been in for the rest of your life, when people tell you, is to go fix it outside so you're better inside. And that's what people do. Instead of realizing, well, why don't I just go fix the inner world? Right? Why don't I redirect the river and put my energy towards removing all of these samskaras, removing all of this, you know, samskaras really just kind of is too much of a big word.

Just think of it as like scars, think of it as trauma, or think of it as anything that you stored in there that you either didn't like or liked that is now Um, being hit many times and I've heard people talk about how it's a collage of them all, right? It's not just like one event. It could be, but a lot of times it's just like millions of these events that come in that are now like coiled up as these big balls of energy.

So you, it could, something could trigger and you go, well, I've never had that experience before. But it makes you stop trying to think about that. It's like trying to unwind a You know, a spider's web, like, you know, it's like so interconnected that you just don't know which one it is that actually is

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Yeah, sometimes it's layers. And I mean, as you just watch it come up, it's like, oh, wow, that's in here too, you know? And yeah. So let's say someone is in this place right now that they're being hit by a samskara Can you walk us through the process of like, what is the best way? And I know you say relax and release a lot.

Yeah. But That's also, it's like three simple words, and we're talking about a pretty big experience. Can you break it down, what it looks like?

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It's not about trying to use the mind to relax it, which is the most common mistake people make in this phase. People go to the mind, they go to the mind, they go, I'm working on myself, which you are, by the way. That is a stage that people need to go through, so that's wonderful if you're doing that. If you're intently trying to work on yourself in this way.

That's amazing. Like, this is a part of the, if you can speed through this process, is if you go to the mind to ask it to deal with its drama in there, or to deal with this issue, it, it can't.

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[00:30:21] Adam: that? I think you're just adding on to it now.

Yeah. Now you're fueling the fire. Okay. It'd be like if you go, if I were to ask you to go put out the fire, instead of putting water on it, you put another log in there. Mm. What's it gonna do? It's just gonna keep getting, that's all you're doing. That's what people are doing. So you just keep putting another log in the fire and so it just continues to storm and it gets bigger and bigger until some point maybe you just walk out of the house and the fire is still going and but it's now you've suppressed it so you don't see the fire anymore.

That's kind of what people do. Worst is like If you just, if you start putting water on it, it gets steamy, it gets hotter, it gets like, whatever those different things are in that analogy, but it's really about, um, you have to relax you, it's the part of you that's experiencing it has to relax and allow, this is, it's such a, it's such a simple, but yet, it's the most important thing for people to realize is like, once you let go, once you relax, The energy pattern itself can go through there.

Let me give you another example of this. Let's say you had a big commercial fan and it was six by six and it was blowing like those ones that they use for like taping sheetrock to dry. If you have a kite and you're trying to fly it into the, into the, you know, or like a little paper airplane, you're trying to fly it into the fan, it's never going to go anywheres.

It's like you pick it up and you keep throwing it over and over again. At some point you have to kill the fan and then you can throw the, throw the paper airplane and it'll go right past it. It's the same thing here, once you kill your energy of trying to fight against the, the, the energy, you drop the energy, the resistance against it, just like the fan dropping its speed and instantaneously it's gone and now there's no resistance anymore.

If there's no resistance of the energy, the energy then quickly moves its way through you. Just like an airplane would quickly move its way past the fan. So it's the same thing, the minute you drop your resistance to what's happening outside, the minute the, the energy pattern itself. The drama, the scars, the samskaras start working its way through you, but as they come closer, don't forget, they get hotter.

They get more uncomfortable, they get more disturbance, but then at some point it's just

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[00:32:33] Adam: Yeah, you know, everyone has a little bit different experiences and I've had, uh, for me early on, um, I've had, um, some of my teachers tell me that when they first started this practice they would throw up.

It literally would throw up and they did that for about six months. Um, but for me, in my experience, it was, it was I instantly like, I start to release things and like my arms will shake, like you can feel like the kind of shaking of that, like you can feel the energy start to release.

It starts in the gut, it really works, it's, I can feel it, like it's almost like you have to like burp almost. Yeah. Like it's feeling it moving its way all the way through you in a bent, you know, in the beginning you would kind of get stuck there and then, you know, eventually as you open up more and more, it starts, I can feel it go right through your throat and you can feel it just escape right out.

And typically once it moves from the gut and it gets to the throat, the throat to like, Releasing it from there actually happens pretty fast. It's the, I find it's like the, it's the building up in the gut. And once it starts moving, it actually can move faster. But it's like, I feel like it stays in the gut, starts to build up.

Like you first get a twinge of it. Like now I bet, I know you've done a lot of this work. You can start to instantaneously, if something gets triggered or it's like you're, you're fine. And there's almost really not even an event that happens. And all of a sudden you get triggered and you go, Oh, what's coming?

Right. It's almost like you can start to feel it. And it starts to move, and move, and move, and then all of a sudden it just gives you that opportunity to just sit back and release it, but it's like, it feels like a physical sensation, it feels like it moves through you, um, and as it does, it just completely, it just starts to go right through you, like the other day I was coming to work, and for like an hour I sat there and just released the entire drive that I had into work, it was probably like 45 minutes actually, but it just wouldn't release, and I just like, I was like, at one point I just laughed, because I was like, man, this thing does not want to stop, but it was again, it followed by an intense, You know, uh, of just lightness and just you can feel part of you is just gone.

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Um, or sometimes I breathe out, I feel like I'm, I'm pushing it out through the breath. This is deep conversation for people learning. I mean, this is, this is the real work, right? If people don't want these triggers, they don't want to live with an anxiety. It's like you have, again, if you don't want to live with a fire, you have to stop putting logs on.

You have to at some point put the fire out and remove it. And that's what people are doing. You have to remove these things. That's why everything's pointed to this direction of just, and it's simple. It's just, it's, it's simple, but the hardest thing you'll ever do. I think

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You've mentioned it, people at Project Few have mentioned it, that sometimes just driving, maybe it's just like the subconscious mind is driving and Well, you

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It's almost like a mantra. It's almost like focused on something. It's almost, it's almost like you're extracting it to allow some things to be released. It's almost like a dreaming state, which part of when you go, you sleep, it's like you're resting the conscious mind, the personal mind, so that the bigger part of your astro body can release these bigger things.

So again, it becomes back, the purpose of your life begins to use every moment. So you either enjoy every moment, or if you're not enjoying it, you're at least enjoying the release of whatever is there, so you can enjoy the next moment.

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