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Roaman - How to stay open to life! #004
Episode 41st September 2022 • We Are Already Free • Nathan Maingard
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Have do you ever felt overwhelmed by how many ‘bad things’ are going on in the world right now? Today's guest, artivist (art activist) Roaman (otherwise known as 'the kundalini guy'), will remind you how to notice the good things in front of you, why you might be missing them right now and how you can 'stay open to life'.

In this episode, Roaman shares

  • How an angel reminded him to ‘stay open to life’,
  • How trying to sell a car taught him about missing what is right in front of us
  • How ‘even when things seemed to be falling apart, they were actually still coming together’
  • And many more inspiring stories...

Towards the end of our conversation, Roaman shares the three foundations, or mantras, that he uses in his life. I love the simple wisdom of what he shares, so be sure to listen out for that.

If this podcast serves you, please take a moment to Please take a moment to leave a review so other seekers can find this simple reminder and realise that they are not alone!

Below you'll find shownotes with links to many of the things we discussed plus links to Roaman

Roaman's Links:

Links and things discussed in this episode:

  • Namaste as fuck - cool brand Roaman Loves (NB: enter ROAMANAF for 15% off)!
  • How an angel reminded Roaman to “Stay Open To Life”
  • On Touring Costa Rica with Sam Garrett
  • The power of consistency, persistence, showing up and being passionate about what you do
  • An inspiring quote from Rainer Maria Rilke for creatives
  • How Roaman navigates sharing what is a very unpopular opinion in the greater society
  • On losing friends and making new ones through speaking his truth
  • How his viral Covid9Tunes came about
  • On realising that “This is a time where you make your own path”
  • Exploring the masculine and the role of the peaceful warrior
  • How Roaman became famous as ‘that kundalini guy’
  • What is enlightenment?
  • The crazy basketball awareness test (I did this, it's wild!)
  • Roaman on what We Are Already Free means for him
  • How the mind will come up with problems, even when there are no problems
  • Mystic path to cosmic powers - Vernon howard (BOOK)
  • How “Even when stuff seemed to be falling apart, it was still coming together”
  • Dr Joe Dispenza - Becoming Supernatural (BOOK)
  • Roaman on how to manifest the reality you want
  • “The people that see the world the way you do, that feel the way you do, can’t find you if they don’t know that that’s the way you feel” - Roaman
  • Why you should be more of yourself even though it might be scary
  • The three foundations, or mantras, that Roaman uses in his life
  • And even more...

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Welcome to we are already free, a podcast helping free people to

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live their truth and be the change rather than spending too much time

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fighting against what they don't want.

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Have you ever felt overwhelmed by how many bad things are going on

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in the world right now? Well, today's episode is

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definitely for you, artivist Roaman.

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Will remind you how to notice the good things right in front of you

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which you might currently be missing.

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Roaman shares how an Angel reminded him to stay open to life,

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how trying to sell a car taught him about missing what is right in

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front of us.

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How even when things seem to be

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falling apart, they were actually still coming together.

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And many more inspiring stories.

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Towards the end of our

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conversation, Roaman shares the three foundations, or mantras that

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he uses in his life.

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I love the simple wisdom of what

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he shares, so be sure to listen out for that.

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I'm your host, Nathan maingard.

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I was nearly crushed by my

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attempts to fit into the box our society calls.

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Being a good citizen, I now dedicate my life to supporting

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seekers like you in remembering that we are already free.

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If this podcast serves you, please take a moment to leave a review so

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other seekers can find this simple reminder and realize that they are

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not alone.

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Now, please enjoy this

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conversation with my dear brother Roaman.

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What's up? Good to see you, my friend.

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Kind of good to see you too.

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We we're in the same colors.

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Yeah, we're looking matched.

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I know this was not planned, but

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it means we're fully aligned.

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Yeah, manifest that shit.

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That's cool.

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Where did you get that shirt from?

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This shout out to my friends.

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This is a California brand run by

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all women. It's called Namaste as fuck and we

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connected on Instagram.

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I saw the day I think they left

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the comment on one of my videos and I saw the name.

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I was like, what is that? And then I saw what they do and

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the ethos behind and I got in touch and they were super cool.

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They sent me a few of these, which are now some of my favorite tank

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tops and T-shirts So maybe they'll see this.

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Thank you so much.

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I love it.

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I might need to get more.

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Manifest that shit.

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That's fantastic.

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Do you know that joke about the

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guy who, like, there's a hippie who's come and staying in at his

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friend's house and he's like sleeping on the couch and he's

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just he's been there too long and the friend comes up to him one

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day. He's like, listen, man, like,

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you've been here weeks staying on my couch.

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Are you gonna leave anytime soon? And he says, Nah, I'm gonna stay.

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Yeah, so that I think I stayed in the.

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I stayed in an Airbnb somewhere and they had that and like a

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little frame over the bed.

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I was like, yeah, I'm in the right

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place. That's a good one.

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That's a good one.

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I actually love.

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I think I was thinking about Namaste yesterday or today about

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how often I've heard people say it because Namaste the divine and me

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recognizes the divine in you.

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I mean, it's a beautiful thing to

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really say and I know it's become a bit cliched in many ways, but at

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the same time.

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I was thinking about how often

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I've heard people say that and then immediately say, like, yeah,

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but fuck those guys like.

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Namaste to. Everybody except them.

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Yeah, it's a funny one, yeah.

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Yeah, it is a powerful one and I

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don't remember who.

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At some point someone said, you

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know, that's something that you can say inwardly whenever you meet

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someone. It doesn't have to be because

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sometimes saying it can come from a place of, hey, I want you to

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know that I'm the type of person that would say namaste, but you

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can say inwardly and still feel that and have that recognition.

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And it's yeah, it's very powerful.

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That makes me think of gift giving

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and anonymous gift giving because i realize often a gift given can

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come with the feeling of, oh, I can't wait to see how this

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person's going to react or like, I can't wait to that feeling of

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like, oh, they're so grateful for the cool gift they gave them.

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And there's something about internalizing that or like giving

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an anonymous gift that still has really a lot of value, but like it

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just meeting someone, being like internally Namaste, like really

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acknowledging. That's the space I'm practicing

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coming from. There's something a bit more

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subtle about that, because it's like you say it's not.

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Then I'm the kind of person who says, no, I'm a stay and I need

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you to know that all right.

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And Speaking of, what do you call

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a gift? Gift giving.

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And do it, do it anonymously.

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There's a thing in Italy and

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probably other places too, where when you go to a what we call bar

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would be a cafe.

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So you go to a bar and you pay for

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your own coffee, and then you pay for an extra coffee for the next

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person. So then the person after arrives

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and then they'll say, oh, this one's already paid for.

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And then that person pays for the next one.

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And then.

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And it keeps going like that.

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Yeah, I like that very much.

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There's a thing around generosity

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and abundance that comes up with that where I remember hearing the

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story of like the sort of general Western mindset versus or in

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comparison with the general Eastern mindset.

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The one being like if you generally, if I talk to someone in

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the West or even notice myself, I'm like, I focus so much on the

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things I don't have or the people who have more than me and I heard

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a story where they say, like if you go to a guy, you might have

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even told me the story at some point, but if you go to a guy

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who's on the street.

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In India.

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And he's just got, like, his little begging bowl.

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And you and you say to him, like, wow, man, you don't.

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Are you OK? You don't have much.

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He's like, no i have a bowl.

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Like that guy doesn't even have a

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bowl. I'm good.

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And there's like, such a difference in that mindset.

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Yeah, the you said something about that.

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We think about the things we don't have.

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It became this kind of like inside joke in Costa Rica and the

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community where I live in Santa Teresa where often.

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You know, life was you have this awareness of how good life is

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there when you're surrounded by people or maybe you're playing

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music and when we're having these moments of like, wow, pure

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gratitude for life, I started saying, guys, let's talk about all

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the things we don't have.

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This show the like contrast of how

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truly like if you want to you could be in paradise and talk

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about all the things we don't have and also you could just like be

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present with whatever life is offering and it's more than

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enough. Yeah, man. Infinite abundance

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beautiful speaking of which, so I we were speaking a little bit

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before, and I and you told me there's a story.

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And I'm very curious to hear this story just as we get this show on

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the road. And that is the story of stay open

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to life and your experience of that around Costa Rica and how

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that song came about.

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And yeah, just give us that tale

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yeah so to give context to those that may not have heard that song,

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Steven to life is a song that I wrote a couple months ago.

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And it was also the name of the tour that Sam and I went on in

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Costa Rica, our dear friend Sam Garrett, we were organized this

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tour for about two months, and we were thinking of names, brainstorm

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in a couple and stay open to life.

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We're like, yeah, that's the one.

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So in my own life, stay open.

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Life is a mantra has become a

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probably the biggest one right now.

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And the story which we have been sharing still open to life.

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The song was the song that we would finish all of our shows with

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when we were on tour and so we would share the song towards the

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end to kind of like bring it all together and that last year in I

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think June. Me and Sam were both in Costa

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Rica. We were not supposed to be in

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Costa Rica together.

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I was supposed to be already in

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the states. What happened is that I was

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supposed to be in Costa Rica for just two weeks and then go to the

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states to be with my at the time partner and I was never even

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allowed on the plane as I was boarding my passport, my ticket

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was didn't wasn't scanning.

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They said sorry, your visa has

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been cancelled. You cannot board this plane.

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And I was like what you're telling me now, like I'm checked in, I'm

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like I see the plane.

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So Long story short.

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They leave me in Costa Rica.

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I am very confused, very lost, a

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lot of pressure in my relationship at the time, which you know, ended

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up not working out.

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So all these things were happening

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and Sam happened to be in Costa Rica at the same time.

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So we're traveling together and we're both going through a lot.

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We're in a very beautiful place, but inside there's.

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Yeah, we're going through a lot in our relationships, you know,

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separately. And there's a lot of confusion and

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this one day.

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We were I think just buying some

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water or some like just stop somewhere for five minutes and

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this guy. That this guy looked like a

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homeless guy. And it came out of nowhere.

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I don't know where you came from.

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And he looked a little bit like

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crazy. He had this smile.

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Was like a little bit crazy, but not like bad crazy.

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Just like not fully there.

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But anyway, this guy came up to us

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out of nowhere.

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And he's just slipped at us and he

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went stay open to life.

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Like that 7 hour put like what?

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And like I felt an explosion in my chest just like because I was the

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opposite of woman to life.

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I was contracted, I was tense.

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I was in my head.

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I was worrying.

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I was trying to figure out life in my brain, which I don't know if

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you figured out never really seems to work.

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And he said saving the life.

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And then honestly, I think he

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disappeared. I don't know where he went.

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It's just like it's gone.

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And Sam and I were both like, that

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was an Angel.

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That was 100 % some type of Angel

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messenger and I remember the impact that this stranger coming

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out of nowhere and saying stay open to life not knowing that I

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was going through a lot and that day I said I'm going to write a

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song about this for sure which you know and then I did but.

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Staying open to life has become huge because after that experience

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of not being able to fight in the states, breaking up with my

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partner and this is someone I was thinking of potentially marrying.

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You know with our at the time it was a four, almost four year or

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maybe 3 and a half year relationship.

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And but after that.

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I went from being lost and

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confused and I don't know what's happening there too.

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Life unfolded in such a beautiful way and somehow I found myself in

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this little town called Santa Teresa on the Pacific Coast where

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I met a bunch of really beautiful people.

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Is wonderful community that pretty much adopted me, and even though I

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was supposed to just be there for a little bit, then somehow they

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someone offered me a place to stay in this beautiful place.

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So Long story short, I've been living in Costa Rica for about a

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year. And it's one of the best things

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that ever happened to me.

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And it came from something that

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felt and looked and seemed like my life was completely falling apart

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from my own perspective.

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I have this plan.

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I'm going to go straight for two weeks, I am moving to the states,

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I am marrying this woman.

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And then life goes, no, that's not

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the plan also, and this is another beautiful part.

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The year and a half before flying to Costa Rica thinking I was gonna

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then go to the states I was in Italy, in frigeni, this little

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town where I'm I am right now as well.

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And I was alone for most of the year, about a year and a half.

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And as most of us during lockdown during the pandemic, we were, you

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know, disconnected and alone and lost.

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And what was going on? What am I gonna do with my life?

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But every day I would do.

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By, you know, a little morning

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practice with some yoga, some stretches, some movement, little

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meditation, and I would take even just five minutes to consciously

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visualize. Ok, what do I want?

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Forget about how I'm gonna get there.

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And how is it gonna work out? What do I want?

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How do I wanna feel? Where do I wanna be?

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And I would imagine myself on a beach somewhere.

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It's a bit of a cliche, but that's me.

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I imagine myself on a beach surrounded by beautiful people.

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Freedom, you know, peace, community.

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And I didn't know where it would be.

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I wasn't even thinking about Costa Rica.

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But I knew.

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And I would sit and I would think

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this is where I want to be.

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This is I wanna feel.

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And then I would kind of just let it go again.

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It's locked down.

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I can't go anywhere.

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But it's it feels, looking back, that their intention, their

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awareness of what I want to do to my life to look like and just

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planting that seed.

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In the universe, so you can, you

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know, saying it to God, whatever terminology you prefer, it did

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something because it's almost as if.

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Then life responds and says, what do you want that OK, and it might

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not look like what you want in the moment, or it might feel, yeah,

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like your life is falling apart, but then it truly is coming

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together and now after this experience this year and a half

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long kind of process.

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I can honestly look back and be

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grateful even for the most painful and heartbreaking parts.

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Because it was a brutal process to like let go of what I thought I

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wanted my life to be and becoming again open to life in a way that I

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could say, you know what I trust you like bring it on and then it

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it's. Way better than what I could have,

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you know, designed in my own head.

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So stay over until life, I hope.

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Yeah, it's a good one.

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You should try it out never.

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No, thank you, brother.

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That is such a beautiful story.

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And actually this seems like a good time.

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If you're open to sharing the songs, they're open to life.

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I'd love to love to have that definitely.

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Only a fool thinks he knows.

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Why some doors old being in

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somewhere close? Sometimes it does and sometimes it

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grows. And like a Beaver is flows allow

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embrace. Give things for it all.

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No doubt.

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Fierce grace.

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Now let it fall.

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Slow down rephrase what's keeping

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you small? Breathe out.

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Be brave and serve the call.

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Stay up, man.

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Open to life, stay.

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Open to life.

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Stay up, man.

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And to life stay up and open to

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live. Put down the weight of your world.

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Turn down the voice in your head.

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For when you thought that you

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could not can't be on, you were giving it instead.

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Allow, embrace, give thanks for it all.

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Now fees grace now let it all fall.

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Slow down rephrase what's keeping you?

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Smile breathe out.

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Be brave.

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And Sir, the car.

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Stay up, man.

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Open to life, stay open to life.

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You gotta stay open to life, stay

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up and open.

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When the road isn't clear, nor the

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answer is near, there is magic and work.

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You gonna nothing to fear.

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You got nothing to fear.

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I will stay open and let some open.

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I'll trust in life and give things.

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I will see you then.

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I'm hoping I'll trust in life and

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give things. I give thanks for what it brings,

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I give thanks for what it takes.

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Winter, summer, fall and spring.

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It don't matter.

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I give crazy as I give praise for

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brand new chapters, praises for the old, and I live in love and

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life, watching the days unfold.

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Watching my days unfold.

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Stay up, man.

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Both into life saving.

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Open to life.

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You gotta stay open to life, stay

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on bed. I'm gonna stay open to life open.

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Wanna stay open? man delay.

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Stay up, man.

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Beautiful brother. She's that song

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is gorgeous.

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We even got someone right now.

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I'm actually listening from Santa Teresa, my alma that's awesome.

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Beautiful, my alma indigo well shut out the Santa Theresa in the

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jungle. Beautiful, man. What a gorgeous

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song. It's also there's something.

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Funny, I was thinking about this as well just in the last 24 hours

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around like ending shows on a quiet song and that's something.

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It's like there's a certain courage and vulnerability to being

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willing to club.

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To play that as a last song in a

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show is like willing to go to that.

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Well, I'm gonna make a.

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I'm gonna.

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What do you what's the word? I'm gonna make an amendment, as

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you say that to what I said earlier.

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And adjustment yeah so that was the cause.

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Yeah, that's a good point.

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That was, in fact, the second to

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last. Song that makes sense.

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The last song, so there would be, you know, I would play my set and

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then Sam would play his set and then after people have been

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dancing, going crazy, we would bring it back down to stay open to

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life, very intimate, very gentle, like very heart opening.

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And then we would do too blessed to be stressed.

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You know, it's like massive mesh up with a bunch of other songs.

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But yeah, there's something about bringing it back down cause like,

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yes, it's amazing when we're out dancing and feeling and like, that

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alone is incredible.

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But something about like, really,

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I feel like even when I sing this song just to myself, it really

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grounds me. And there's something about even

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just the melody that it feels like it helps me to come back here and

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like, OK, I can stay on.

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Staying open is not it i liked it

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because in a way, you don't actually have to do much.

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You just have to stay open.

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Yeah, you just stay open and then

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see what comes and how you can react but.

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Yeah, like that.

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Song that's beautiful, man.

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Oh, it's beautiful.

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There's actually that reminds me

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of a story, this woman, Monica Kromhout, who is a South African.

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She's called they call it the mushroom grand Granny.

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She's basically is this, like, looks like a little suburbian

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grandma like you never would imagine, but she's been serving

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magic mushrooms, sacred mushrooms, for like 12 years from her house

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in a little normal suburb in just outside of Cape Town.

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And I I'm actually going to get her on this podcast at some point.

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But we were chatting a while ago and she was talking about how the

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first act, she'd been working with iOS skin and it helped her like.

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Your husband passed on.

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She literally just wanted to die.

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She didn't want to live anymore.

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That was it.

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She and she just couldn't reconnect.

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And then someone introduced her to Iowaska and she was like not the

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kind of person to even know anything about that kind of stuff.

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And she went into the ceremony and had this huge transformation and

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continued working with ayahuasca.

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But anyway, Long story short, she

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eventually was introduced to sacred mushrooms and she took them

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outside in her garden the one day and the mushrooms were like she's

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literally said. I heard the voice of mushrooms

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saying you are going to run a mushroom school at your house and

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you're just gonna.

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Help people to work with this

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medicine. And she was like, she's like, I

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don't know nothing about mushrooms, how am I going to be

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doing this? And the mushrooms said all you

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need to do is keep the door open and everything will be taken care

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of, yeah, stay open.

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It reminds me of the other story

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which I think you shared.

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I think you share with someone of

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that, the meditation teacher, someone who was trying to do the

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same and wanted to start this, wanted to start meditating with

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people. And so she started putting the

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word out and she said, you know, every Sunday at my house door is

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open. And I think for a year nobody went

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but she every Sunday she would still do it and keep the door

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open. And then now it's like one of the

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biggest. Meditation centers in the states

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or something crazy like.

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That I love that.

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I don't know.

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I've never heard that story.

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That's beautiful.

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I love that that's another one.

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There's another one about a priest who it's like his journal that

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someone found his journal years later or something.

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And it's like.

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Went to do a sermon today like

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three people were there.

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And then he did another one like

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and 10 people and then no one and then five.

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And then it's like and now 300 and then 5000 and like it's just.

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But he just kept showing up, like just kept showing up and that was

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a. There's some power there, and

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that's keeping the door open, just like I'm just going to keep

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serving in the way that it feels aligned.

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I love that.

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Umm, even, you know, you mentioned

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we met in London, the Inspiral, the Vegan Cafe, and there was a

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little stage and you would host the open mic.

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I'm sure that when you started there was not a lot of people that

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would go, but in the end we couldn't fit in the cafe and we

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started doing shows in bigger venues and it was just because,

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you know, you kept.

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Growing up.

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And then we came and then we kept showing up and then other people

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came and and yeah, the power of.

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Perseverance or persistence and

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also really liking and being passionate about what you do.

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And I often I get maybe like, I'm talking to someone or I get a

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little message. Someone would say, like, hey, I'm

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either I'm just starting to play guitar or just started writing my

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own songs or do you have any advice?

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And there's many things that you could say in that I often say.

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But one thing I say is make sure that you really love it because

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you will have challenges.

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You will have days where you're

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like, fuck this.

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I don't wanna play for anybody.

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Nobody cares.

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Nobody's listening.

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This isn't going anywhere.

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Like it doesn't matter what you

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do, they will be that often in the beginning, especially.

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So the difference is, do I really like what I'm doing?

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And do I feel like it's if it serves even a greater purpose than

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just, you know, you sharing your own art, which is beautiful in

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itself, then even more, keep doing it because it'll somehow it'll

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work out. I love that this reminds me.

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There's a part I don't know if you've heard of him.

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Never Maria rilke.

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It was.

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I think a German saw it yeah so he there's a book of his called

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letters to a young poet.

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And it's basically a fan.

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This is not like early nineteen, hundreds i think.

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Don't know exactly when, but it's a good while ago.

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And what a fan of his was writing letters to him and he was

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replying. And this book is his replies to

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this young poet.

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And there's one quote, and I've

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actually saved it.

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I've got it here because a nice

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when people will send me those kind of messages like, hey man,

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I'm just starting like, here's a poem or here's a song like what do

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you think? And i actually generally send them

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this because I just.

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I think it's such a good reminder,

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especially when you're starting out what to focus on or how to

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know if you're heading in the right direction.

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And I'll read it to you.

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It's a bit, it's not super long,

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but I'll read it to you.

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It's, I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

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So it says, please, you ask whether your verses are any good.

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You ask me.

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You have asked others before this.

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You send them to magazines, you compare them with other poems, and

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you are upset when certain editors reject your work.

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Now, since you have said that you want my advice, I beg you to stop

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doing that sort of thing.

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You are looking outside, and that

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is what you should most avoid right now.

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No one can advise or help you.

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No one.

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There is only one thing you should do.

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Go into yourself.

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Find out the reason that commands

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you to write.

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See whether it has spread its

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roots into the very depths of your heart.

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Confess to yourself whether you would have to die if you were

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forbidden to write this.

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Most of all, ask yourself, in the

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most silent hour of your night must I write?

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Dig into yourself for a deep answer, and if this answer rings

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out in assent.

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If you meet this solemn question

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with a strong, simple I must then build your life in accordance with

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this necessity.

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Your whole life, even into its

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humblest and most indifferent hour, must become a sign and

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witness to this impulse sheep.

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Like Trump.

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You need that.

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I want those like reggaeton, kind

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of like sirens like yeah, wow, that is huge yeah,

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Please send it.

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Please send that.

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Yeah, please.

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That's huge.

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Yeah, it might be.

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That might be one of the biggest

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things I've ever heard yeah i love that it's so it's the perfect

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response because i want to help people, you know, like, and I know

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that feeling in myself.

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I know the feeling of wanting

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someone to tell me that I'm good enough, that what I've done is

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good enough when that's actually not the most important thing.

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And like a lot of people say to me now when they hear my poems or my

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lyrics, my words, they're like, wow, you've got such a gift.

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And I think to myself, like, you know what?

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I think a gift is more than anything.

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And I.

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And not to say for everything.

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I mean, I think for like, Michael Jordan.

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Or like if you're a certain sports, etcetera.

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But let's just talk about creativity in general, like.

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I think what people call a gift is a lifetime of passion and

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persistence and care and repetition and failure and getting

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it wrong.

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That's what people now call a

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gift. So and say, oh, you're so

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talented. It's like, well you could be

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talented too if you dedicated 30 plus years to words.

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Yeah, no, it's true.

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They unless you're like a four

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year old that can play Mozart.

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Like that's a fucking gift.

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But like otherwise, yeah, there's the behind the scene that people

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don't see is the so-called what like the sweat and tears of fully

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devoting yourself to a craft, whatever that is for sure.

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Well, I'd love to ask you about so you.

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You've had you've spoken out quite strongly in these times and I

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remember at the time when you started writing those songs for

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anyone who doesn't know Rick Ricardo.

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I always want to call you Ricardo, but Roaman.

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I know your name.

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I don't know what to do about

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that, because that's become a problem where people don't know

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what name to use.

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And now I'm also known as the

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kundalini guy. There's this whole confusion from.

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Anyway, but. When you basically started creating these songs that

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were speaking out and basically using satire and song to point out

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the ridiculousness of what's been happening the last few years.

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And I remember you shared with me at some point you said, like,

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people had been saying, oh, you're just hopping on the train and now

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you just want to like, you just want to get on board the Corona

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train and take advantage of it so people pay you attention.

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And I don't know if you remember that or what you said, but I mean,

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I do, but I don't know if you remember.

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What was going on for you at that point?

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I think, I mean, in the beginning it was is it was an even now, like

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it's not a popular opinion to have.

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So right that argument of.

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I did it for the attention.

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First of all, there was almost no one saying what I was posting at

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the time. It was more like a.

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Me venting musically.

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Yeah, thing.

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Well, so the thing that you said that really struck me was, which

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was accurate, is that you were like, I've been doing these kind

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of, I've been doing rebellion songs and revolutionary songs for

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forever. And so the fact that you think,

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like, I'm just doing it about what's happening right now and

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what I see is, like, you seem to be have navigated this the way the

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camps to me is edgewalker it's like you are, you know, you're

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back home in Italy right now.

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You're surrounded by a lot of

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people who don't have the same opinions as you, and yet you're

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managing to navigate this all with what seems like to me, with some

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kind of grace.

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So I'm just wondering what that

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feels like to be an edge Walker, to be a voice for an unpopular

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opinion and how you are navigating that in yourself.

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First of all, I don't think I've ever felt as cool as a second ago

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when you asked me what does it feel like to be an edge Walker.

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I need that on a T-shirt Well, the Grace, if there was any, came

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after losing my shit a few times for sure.

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Especially in the beginning well.

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It started honestly with me.

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Just writing my just voicing my upset and disappointment and

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frustration. Yeah, I was here in the garden and

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it was morning and I remember reading something about lockdowns

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that were coming or something when it was still, everything was still

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quite fresh and like extremely overwhelming.

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It it's just like what I do.

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I write a song, like sometimes I

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write little songs for myself that I don't share.

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But it feels good.

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Like some people write on a diary,

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I'll write a song and.

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I think at some point there was a

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fuck it moment.

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Honestly that was just a because

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I've always been this person like big mouth saying what I feel.

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But maybe among friends like you guys know me as sometimes they say

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the thing that maybe you shouldn't say but I say it and but you know

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I have a good heart then I don't really mean it or stuff like that.

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But I wasn't.

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I was still coming from a place of

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OK like my social media presence was maybe more politically

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correct. And I was feeling this inner

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conflict of who I thought I was supposed to show up as given some

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of the stuff that I sing about like songs, like be a friend, what

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we need is love.

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And then on the other side, like

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wanting to start a revolution and like feeling so much anger.

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So I think at some point I just couldn't.

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The two couldn't coexist in either or manner, and there was just

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like, fuck, I'm just going to say it.

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Because it did feel like the world was going to shit anyway.

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I was like, if I'm gonna like, if this is it, at least I'm gonna let

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people know how I feel and I think initially.

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Very bad reactions lost.

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A bunch of followers still have

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friends who don't speak to me or they have changed their opinion

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like I'm talking old friends we know we have one in common and

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other friends from university that just like, no i'm not talking to

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you anymore, but then.

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And I felt a lot of support.

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In of coming honestly from so many places around the world because

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everybody was kind of going through the same, a lot of people

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simply saying, yo, you are voicing what I feel.

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Thank you or it's good to feel like I'm not alone in this.

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I thought I was crazy.

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And this little online community

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started coming together, especially on Instagram where the

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seven, what I call the COVID nineteens, those seven videos more

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to a different degree, all kind of went viral.

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And there's, I don't know how many hundreds if not thousands of

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comments. And they're all like beautiful,

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supporting people. It isn't like, hey, yeah, we

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gotta, like, fuck these people.

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It's more like, wow, it's good to

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know that I'm not crazy and that some people also feel the way I

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do. And if nothing else, thank you

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for, like, making me laugh about something that up until yesterday

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was, you know, making me cry kind of thing.

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And so I think it started with that fucking moment also because.

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I do I do often reflect on like.

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How do I use this?

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And this platform, whether it's Instagram or the fact that, you

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know, I sing and people listen, that's a huge privilege, you know,

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like how, what am I saying? How am I using that?

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And at the time it felt like there was nothing else that seemed more

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relevant or alive than to sing about that about you know, freedom

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and responsibility and corruption and all felt very alive.

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So it started with the fucking moment, but then feeling like,

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wow, this is like, this is going around and a lot of people are

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feeling it. And so if I can keep writing

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songs. Coming from what I honestly feel,

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but they can, you know, make somewhat somebody's day a little

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bit better or lighter than for sure I'm gonna do that.

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So I did that for a while.

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I don't know if they'll answer.

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Answer the questions.

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Well, it's interesting because, so

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I have, as you know, this podcast is kind of new at the time of it's

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not even officially out on any platforms yet.

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I'm just, I'm recording and live streaming a bunch of episodes

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before I start releasing them onto the podcasting net platforms.

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And one of the other people I chatted with was this guy Pete

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Evans and he, I mean I won't go into detail, but for folks

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listening, definitely go and listen to that episode when it

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comes out like it's what that guy went through.

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I mean from millions of followers and I'm saying.

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Dollars, it's not about the followers but his entire career of

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that he built up over so many years that he had a huge community

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on Facebook, Instagram.

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He was one of the most well known,

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sort of celebrities I guess in Australia.

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And they he they crushed him because he just kept speaking his

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truth and he said something to me about.

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He was like, he's like, I kept waiting for the like Rage Against

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the machines and the you know like the those kind of bands.

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Waiting for the big bands who've always been about like, you know,

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fuck the guy.

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Like, not fuck the government, but

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yes, fuck the government for what they're doing.

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Like kind of fuck the government.

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Like they if the government wasn't

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doing shit that they're doing, then we wouldn't say fuck the

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government, but they are so and I just and he's like, I kept waiting

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and nothing and then he's like, and then I heard your poem talking

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to me and then it's like I heard these other musicians coming

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through and I was thinking about you and he was telling me that I

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may have even said your name, but just like.

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And he said he's like, I was initially surprised.

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And then he said, but I thought, then I thought, well, maybe that's

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the way it has to be is like coming rising up from the

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underground. Is like, and that's also the word

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radical, the origins of the word radical means that which rises

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from the root.

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And so to really be radical is to

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be fucking rooted.

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And that's important.

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So for those of us who've always been to me, it was like the final

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invitation to just, OK, either I'm going to keep pretending that I

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don't see something off here, or I'm going to just surrender to

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whatever unfolds and I'm going to speak my truth.

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And that's like, I think that's the end.

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But we that's the whole thing of like, this time is the invitation.

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To really like the coronation, corona, the coronation.

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And I think that's an important thing to remember.

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So Alexandra is saying, i love your song.

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I am spiritual.

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Can you play it?

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Do you feel like you want to play that song?

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Yeah, with pleasure.

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I just wanted to say a couple

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things in response to what you just shared, because it's a big

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one. I did something similar.

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I felt very similarly to this guy was named Paul.

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He said Pete Evans.

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Peter, pete and I did a post

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calling out the musicians that I've been listening to for many

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years that I've looked up to for many years.

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Yeah, a lot of these, like, yeah, we're the revolutionaries.

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The warriors.

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This and this and this.

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And then I was like, wait, where are your songs?

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Where's, like, nothing? Absolutely nothing.

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So I did a post.

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I was like, where are you guys?

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And one of them? Got in touch with me privately.

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Out of maybe six or seven and she said thank you for, you know,

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calling me out, and we had a conversation and it was very

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inspiring because she said maybe now is the time that the new

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generation of. There's leaders and music or

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people that are speaking out.

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Maybe this is the time that they

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rise. You know, it's not.

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It's no longer about looking at those who have been kind of like.

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Clearing the way, in a sense, maybe that's this is not a time to

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follow. This is a time where you make your

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own path, and that led into a conversation that it was about the

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masculine and the role of the warrior.

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This is something that I've been feeling a lot recently that still

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today, but especially back in the day, there was, you know, the

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Warriors were real and they were peaceful and they, you know, you

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maintain the peace.

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But if an invader comes, like,

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we'll fuck you up, you know, we're protecting our family, we're

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protecting our land, we're protecting our resources.

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And that's something that I feel like we have lost.

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So obviously ideally we don't get into a position of that's the

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enemy and we cause if you make you know if you make some from someone

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the enemy that's already like you already lost in a way.

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But to have that spirit of this is not OK.

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This doesn't feel right and nobody else saying something.

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I guess I'm going to say something and see what happens and sometimes

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maybe nothing happens, but.

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Those two, the realizing.

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Ok, maybe now it's up to us, whoever us is, I guess, whoever is

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showing up and end the role of the warrior, which I'm still

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reflecting on, like how does a warrior, quote unquote show up in

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today's society with the tools that we have?

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Because obviously I'm not going out with the sword, although I

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might at some point.

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You never know.

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There's a guy with a tank and you're like, listen, do you know

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this sword? Have you seen my sword?

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Ok, someone asked for the spiritual song yeah earlier when I

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said I'm also apparently known as the kundalini guy.

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I'm not.

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I'm not claiming that name in any

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way, shape or form.

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But while I was on tour because of

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this song called because I'm spiritual, the chorus is kundalini

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and so some people recognize me as like, are you the kundalini guy?

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And then I would say, yeah, my name is Roma.

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And then some would say, yeah, this is my friend Decardo.

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And then it's just complete.

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Confusion as the my the real

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identity. Ok, so if you're listening, no

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that this song was not written about you, so you should not take

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it personally. I say.

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I usually say this is a song that I wrote to make fun of me and my

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friends, but mostly my friends.

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Alright, headphones are coming

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off. Namaste, brothers and sisters.

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I'm glad you gathered.

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Here are wrote a little song to

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sing the things that I hardly ever see.

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I used to be like you, just a fool in the 3D Until one day I woke up

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claiming I'm a star seed.

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So now I'm a coach, I'm a healer,

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I'm an indigo child.

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Technique pictures by a waterfall

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and think that.

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Wild, my favorite word is secret

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and I use it all the time because it's really good for business.

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Never said I'm always high because I'm spiritual and loving, like the

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language that I speak.

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I refuse to face reality.

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I'm tripping once a week because I'm speaking with drew, stressing

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as I burn a little stage.

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I'm have to lose.

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You know, I've been a golden cage.

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Kundalini kundalini.

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You see, I love to meditate, but only when somebody's looking.

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I wouldn't wanna waste the chance to get another book and see my

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coping mechanism is the smiling powered through all this shit I

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should be working on.

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Because that's for holy people.

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Do well realign your chakras if your life is getting hard.

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I'm sending love and blessings now.

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Please wrap your credit card.

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I don't deal with human drama.

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I live in the fifth.

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Dimension but the truth is, I'm

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just craving your attention.

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Gazzam spiritual love and light

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the language that I speak.

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I refuse to face reality and truth

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for once a week as I'm spiritual, stressing as a burn, a little

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sage. I'm have to lose, you know, having

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a golden cage nalini kundalini.

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Gina gonda.

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That he needed.

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And my call it intuition, but it's

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just another thought.

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I take no responsibility.

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It's all the planets fall.

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So where Mercury's in Gatorade?

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I'm gonna be a bitch.

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I put flowers in my lemonade and

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call myself, for which I gave myself a name that I don't even

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understand. I'm really good at nothing, but I

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own a conscious brand.

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See, I'm consciously designed.

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As the young constantly bless that and I'll make sure the people

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know. Have you even seen my Instagram?

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I'm always in the focus.

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I'm spiritual love and like the

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language that I speak.

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I refuse to face reality and

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tripping once a week as I'm spiritual stressing as a burn, a

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little sage. I'm have to lose, you know, happy

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in a golden cage lady daddy? Kundali, Nikki.

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Kali guided.

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Without kundalini, nothing against

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Kundalini is just people are silly and I like to write silly songs.

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You're that tune, bro.

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Did honestly while I was on.

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While we were on tour and I played the song every time and every time

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I was like, this is a better idea.

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This is a better idea.

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I shouldn't do this because we've been playing this like, beautiful,

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like yoga studios, retreat centers with like these, you know,

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beautiful people in this, like, why not always?

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But like it's definitely the kind of place where it could go either

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way. It could go, oh, that's a funny

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song or like, people leaving.

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Ohh they never you never heard

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from again the culture which is you.

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Never get invited.

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Yeah, they tear my membership

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sure. Man, that is good.

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I you know, but it's to me that song is like a lot of your songs,

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but that's like the perfect representation of your one of the

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archetypes that you do so well, which is the jester.

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And I don't know if anyone watch it.

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Do you do you relate to that at all?

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Is that something that you feel for yourself?

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Definitely i love that like cheeky little bit.

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Like I'm gonna say, yeah, i i'm the same in like I was going to

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say real life, like not when I'm writing songs like that is

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something that I enjoy.

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Man, that song is brilliant.

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It is so on point.

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It's terrible.

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Like I can think of so many examples and in and like I look at

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my own life, like the times where.

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It's amazing.

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It's like the perfect mirror to either get very serious and go, Oh

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well, that's terrible.

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I can't.

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No, that's not.

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Or to go.

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Hey, where is that? Where's that talking to me?

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That's fantastic.

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Yeah, there's a I actually this

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is. Probably one of the first songs I

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want to record like properly and put it out there.

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And because yeah, it's also funny because if I sing it.

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Like whenever I performed it.

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Nobody got upset, but not because.

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I'm sure somebody got upset, but because you can't say that you got

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upset because then it kind of shows that.

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You know, like, oh, then I'm talking about you.

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So there's like, you just feel this, like, every now and then.

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Like, you look at someone, like their jaw is low, tense, but

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they're like trying to.

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But yeah, if, like, the point is

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if we can't laugh about ourselves and make fun of ourselves a little

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bit, then we're kind of missing the point.

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Mate, definitely so talking about just missing the point, I'm

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curious to hear that story around the car and the car papers when

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you were in California.

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Yeah, yeah. That's another good

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one I had bought.

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This car from a friend.

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It was a 1994 Red Volvo station wagon, and I drove that car for, I

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think, about three months.

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And it was towards the end of my

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journey in California.

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And a friend said, I'm gonna buy

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it from you.

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I was like, great, amazing.

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He said, do you have the papers? I said, of course they're in the

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glove box and a little, like leather booklet.

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You know, there's like nice chunky with all the papers.

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And at this point I'm in Joshua Tree, california, which is pretty

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much the desert.

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So I go in the car, I open the

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glove box and the this leathery thing, there's like booklet.

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What would you call it? Like a like a yeah sleeve yeah

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yeah, something like that, yeah.

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Say like a sleep wasn't there.

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I'm like, oh shit.

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Because i remember seeing that,

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but I don't.

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I did.

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I don't remember, like, touching it or taking it out.

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I'm like, whoa.

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Where did I lose it?

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There's no papers in my car.

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I'm in the desert I'm supposed to

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drive to. You know the friend who wants to

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buy it? So I basically i looked for these

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papers for this, for the sleeve for about 2 days.

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All the I call friends like, hey, did I leave it at your house?

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Like where could I possibly have left it?

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I was really stressing out and I was yeah, like not having a good

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time and my friend.

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He said if you check the glove

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box, I was like, dude, that's like the first place, like, come on, I

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was a little irritated.

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I was like, I'm not stupid.

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Turns out it turns out I am second.

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As I said, alright, fine, I'm gonna check the glove box again.

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This time I opened the glove box and I noticed just what looked

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like just some like scrap paper.

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Sounds like maybe two pieces of

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paper or three, just kind of like that in the glove box.

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I was like, what is that? Turns out those were the papers I

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had been looking for the whole time, but because I was so

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convinced that they were in this like nice leathery sleeve which

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existed except I forgot it was from the previous card.

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Like it was never in that car.

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Like another car that I had at

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some point in the past had that leathery sleep.

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And so i remember laughing like a like a fool at the fact that I had

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made my life miserable because what I needed.

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I thought would come in this other shape, this other form, so I

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literally didn't see that what I was looking for was right there,

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except it looked a little different.

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Wasn't as fancy as the leather actually.

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It was just some scrap paper.

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But it is what I needed.

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And I remember the thought while I was laughing and my friend came

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was like, why are you laughing? Like an idiot.

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By yourself, by your, guard, because I remember thinking, I

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wonder how many other areas in my life.

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How many other things I'm missing out on?

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Because I can't see them because I think they're supposed to feel.

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In a different way, or they're gonna show up in a different way,

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or that they're gonna.

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And it was a.

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Yeah, it was a big moment for me because it you know, it's just

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some scrap paper and it's just some documents, but sometimes a

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little lesson that you can apply to so many other things.

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And so it kind of inspired me to like, look again, whatever I think

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I'm missing.

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Like, look again, because maybe

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you're not missing it at all.

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You're just so stuck on the idea

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that. It will be something else, which,

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especially at the time I was in California, three months

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traveling, there were many talks around spirituality.

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And what like enlightenment, this huge word, enlightenment.

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And was like and you get this idea, especially in the beginning

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of a journey of a some sort of spiritual journey or that, you

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know, enlightenment is gonna be like, I'm gonna be blowing like

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the sun and I'm gonna be floating, you know, 3 feet from the ground.

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And I'm always going to be compassionate and equanimous and

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animals are gonna come to me and I'm always gonna be happy.

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Which is bullshit like that does not what happens at.

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All what wait? Wait, I mean, it might.

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It might if you do it, if you're if your third eye is really open,

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you might. That squeezy that third.

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Yeah, so it's just it was just simplified a lot of things that

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maybe my head were like, oh, made a big deal out of.

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Well, to me it ties into what you were saying earlier about staying

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open to life that you want in that moment, that you had a specific

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idea of how life needed to look for you.

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Move forward.

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And so you'd actually close the

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door on any other option and so you literally couldn't see the

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other option that was.

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I mean, it's an amazing story.

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It's so simple.

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It's so beautiful.

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Have you ever seen there's a, there's a video that anybody who's

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listening to this now where at some point in the future shout out

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to future people listening to this and there's a video you can find

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on YouTube. I think it's like awareness test

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or something like that.

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And I don't have you ever seen it.

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It's just the video and the video.

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There's a team, three people and I

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have a basketball and the video says, well, fuck, I don't want to

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give it away now, but.

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Anyway, don't give it away.

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I'm keen to it.

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I'll put it in the show.

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But it's.

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Ok, I don't wanna give it away.

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It's a.

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It's a tiny example.

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This shows you that if you are not paying attention to something you

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won't, you physically won't see it.

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And I don't want to say too much, and conversely, if you are open to

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seeing something and if you are paying attention, Ramdas says.

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If you go, if you drive through a town and you're hungry, all you're

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gonna see is places to eat.

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But if you go through it down and

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you're sleepy, then you're going to see hotels.

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So it's the same town.

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But you're gonna be noticing

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different things depending on what you think you need.

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I love that.

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I love her ramdas it's like the

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story you just told about the glove compartment.

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It's like those kind of simple.

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It's such a simple story.

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It's not it's not complicated, it's not confusing.

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It makes sense.

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It's like if you look.

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Yes, of course.

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This totally makes sense when you

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hear the term.

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We are already free.

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What is that? What is that for you?

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What comes up? That's a. That's a good one.

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That should be like.

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You should make like posters.

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People can just hang in their homes and we are already free.

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Or two.

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It's like 2 parallel tracks.

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I guess it's two different planes of understanding this.

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1 guess the.

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More umm.

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Abstract and more spiritual.

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We are already free.

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I just wrote a song the other day called you already know and the

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idea is i was thinking of all the things that sometimes people do,

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sometimes really silly things to try and find a sense of purpose or

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meaning or some peace.

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And we'll, you know, go to the

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Himalayas or we'll follow this guru, or we'll read all these

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books or we're only, you know, eat crystals on full moon or whatever

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it is. And we complicate things immensely

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for ourselves, because really, we are already free.

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And every great teacher that I've been listening to and that I've

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been trying to learn from, they all point back to ourselves.

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Whether it's Jesus saying the Kingdom of heaven is within you,

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or is Ramana Maharshi saying, you know, God guru himself are one,

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you are the self.

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It's always like it's simple, it's

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here. And it's now you don't have to go

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out and find it.

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And Sam, like I loved he had few

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little stories that he would share during his set on tour and he

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would say like if you if you can grasp it.

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Then it's still something outside of you that you can lose, but

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that's not what we're talking about.

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That is already and.

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If you quiet your mind and open

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your heart, you will find all you need was inside from the start.

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That's part of the song that I just wrote, so we already free

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reminds me that.

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The eye.

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That I am beyond this awesome buddy, that I buddy that I get to

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carry around the world and do life with.

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There's something beyond that it is already free and that is the

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more pure. And yeah part of me the part that

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doesn't that doesn't that doesn't go, that doesn't change, that

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doesn't leave and then the other the more like physical practical

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everyday thing we were talking about you know governments and

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lockdowns and laws and restrictions and.

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You know the people in power.

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But like, no, that is like.

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We're all already free.

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We'll hold the power we like when

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we go. In the streets or when we're, you

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know, at a rally or and we writing songs to protest against some sort

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of injustice that we perceive or, you know, some rights being taken

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away, some freedoms being taken away.

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And this is the more the part of me that.

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Yeah, my parents don't really understand.

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They're like anarchists, but anarchists is not someone who

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wants to just fuck shit up.

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Anarchists is someone who doesn't

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necessarily believe that we need an outside third party government

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of old people that live a life that is completely different from

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the life that I live.

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How do you get to make the calls

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as to what I can or cannot do when we look at the world, we don't see

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the same thing, we don't live by the same values.

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We don't.

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So in that sense that sovereignty

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of I get to make the calls and obviously like I want to live in

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society, i I'm glad that there is some type of structure to keep

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things going, but the moment that it becomes the authority.

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That I've never agreed to, that you think you have over me to

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limit how I get to express myself, where I get to go, who I get to

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be. That's too much.

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And I think something that many of us have remembered.

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During this time, during the last two years, is that sovereignty?

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Is that we're already free? Maybe we're taking it for granted

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before, but the moment it gets taken away, you're like, what was

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going on? And if nothing else, I hope that's

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something that comes from, yeah, the last two years that people

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realize, hey, we don't, we don't have to do things the way we've

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been doing things because it doesn't seem to be working.

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And if it did, it doesn't work anymore and it doesn't align with.

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The world that we want to live in and the reality that we want to

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create and yeah, the values that we want to live by and the and

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what we want to bring forth.

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It's an old.

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Way and yeah, maybe it helped to carry on society for a while, but

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no more and.

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Yeah, something like that.

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Yeah, beautiful. It's an interesting i i'm, I think a lot

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about. It's like a combination of the two

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things you've just been speaking about that is on one side.

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We are infinite and so there's nothing.

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The freedom that we have is innate.

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There's no way that can be removed.

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And on the other side we do have a physical body right now that has

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external forces that are doing their very best to keep us.

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In a certain track, and if we step out of that track, there's

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challenges and what I'm wanting to or what I'm keep thinking about

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and like asking to get the lessons that will allow me to embody that

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more, is to remember that the body is that I don't need to defend the

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body. Like if I if my truth means that I

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need to put my body on the line, put myself on the line.

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That is something that is worth doing in the same way that Gandhi

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would walk into a wall of police who he knew they were going to

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beat the crap out of him and he did it anyway.

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There's some kind of a courage there that I don't feel like I yet

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have in me.

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It's like because even speaking my

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truth, writing these poems, like having this podcast, chatting with

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you, these things, I don't have a direct fear that I'm going to get

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physically, like, imprisoned for this or something like that.

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Whereas there, it's like it's that combination of realizing I am

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spirit and I am also here now and I am free here now.

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Even if they put me in jail or beat the crap out of me or kill

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me, I'm still free.

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And there's like a piece in that

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that's really I'm.

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And wanting to develop that

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courage basically. Yeah, I feel you.

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There's a I was mentioning Ramdas earlier and part of the work that

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he did. For decades, he would work with

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people in prison and jail umm.

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And because he would say I'm in

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the business of freedom, I'm not in the business of joy.

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I'm not here to, you know, just make you happy.

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I'm here to help you get free.

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And what better time?

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Then when you have to serve time and time is all you have.

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And there's some amazing stories which to think you could elected

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in a book of some of these inmates that through meditation, through

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talks, through just like sitting with these teachings and you know

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some guidance which like I can't even imagine trying to do

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something like that, but some of these people that.

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Their life turned around completely simply from that

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realization, which I get glimpses on of every now and again.

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And when I do get those glimpses, sometimes I imagine like fuck

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imagine living my whole life from this perspective of I am free and

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No Fear and no.

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Yeah, just the purest expression

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of who I am without.

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Limitations and mind made stories.

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It's a good place to be.

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Yeah, I love that.

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It's funny, I actually, when I did Vipassana years ago though, the 10

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day silent meditation retreat, it's the only one I've done.

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And it was in 2010 I think.

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And one of the guys there was a

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young dude. He must have been 18 years old and

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he didn't know.

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He was like, not sure that when he

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came out if he was going to go to prison or not because he had been

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caught sending himself magic mushrooms from Amsterdam to the

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UK. And I mean, just the fact that

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it's like plants, man, and it's someone dealing with their own

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like, whatever, if you want to do that.

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Of consciousness, anyway, that's a whole different story.

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But he said he's like, I'm doing vipassana because if I go to

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prison, I'll have something to do while I'm there.

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Like I'll be able to practice.

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Like I'll have this practice that

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I could take with me pretty i mean, how's that for a responsible

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action for a youngster? He's like, I don't know, like, at

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this point, it's out of my control.

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I may go to prison, I may not, but I'm doing what I can to make sure

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I'm still empowered when I am in prison, if that's what happens,

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that's pretty that's pretty rad.

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That's badass, yeah, that's really

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bad. That's huge.

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Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm curious to know there's a anything just in

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the last week.

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Someone asked me this question

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recently and I was like, this is such a nice question.

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But what is something that you've learned in the last week,

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something new that you didn't know before?

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Well, apparently that there are carnivorous butterflies.

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Nate Nathan actually just told me we connected like a few minutes

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before we started this to try things out.

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And I don't know how we got to talk about carnivorous

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butterflies. No, I don't want to talk about

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that. That's disturbing.

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Something that I learned in the past week, I think something it's

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not just the last week.

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But the last.

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Few weeks, let's say, but it's been definitely alive the last

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week. I feel like it's i'm integrating

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it more umm.

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How the mind will try to come up

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with problems even if there are no problems?

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The mind.

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Coming from, yeah, two months of

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touring around Costa Rica, which were honestly two of the best

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months of my life where everything.

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It's not like everything went perfect, but even when things were

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not going perfect, it's like staying open to life and somehow

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things working out and feeling like really supported and provided

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for and just the last year of my life.

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But in the last month that I've come back and I've been just here

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in this little town, like not a lot of friends.

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So I have a lot of time to sit with myself and think back to

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these experiences. And I've noticed how I've come

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from this, like high, like, Wow, life is amazing.

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I feel so like natural high.

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And then.

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Nothing has happened.

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Nothing wrong has happened,

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nothing bad has happened, but the mind was like try to creep back

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in. With like, hey yeah, but how are

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you gonna make that happen? Ohh yeah, but you think whatever

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story the mind has and so I've been really sitting with.

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There's this book that I read that I recommend to anybody is called.

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Mystic path to cosmic powers by Vernon Howard, which sounds like a

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Super Woo title, but is honestly one of the most like, straight to

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the point practical books that I've ever read, and one of the

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things that he says.

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That I was actually applying last

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night. Funny enough, for a personal

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situation, he says.

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Facts before feelings put facts

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before feelings. It's so easy.

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As humans we have this like reactions, these like, oh, I'm

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feeling this like fear or doubt or insecurity.

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We make up these stories in our head, especially as we're relating

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to someone else.

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You say something, maybe I

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misinterpret it, maybe you don't express it in a, you know, best

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way. But then I create a story in my

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mind and then I assume that this story.

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Is real.

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And then I will have a reaction.

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And now I'm mad at you, so facts before feelings.

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When my mind tries to come up with these like little stories of, and

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they're usually stories around unworthiness or stories around,

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there's something that you should be worrying about right now.

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Something's gonna go bad.

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And then.

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I'm really learning.

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Not just from my personal

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experience of looking back and be like, hey, even when stuff seemed

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like it was completely falling apart, it was still coming

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together like, what are you worrying about?

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So I'm learning to.

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Have that like split second where

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I can kind of step out of that initial tornado.

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That's like building up in my brain.

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And be like no facts.

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What are the facts?

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Right now you are OK.

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Right now you are fine.

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Right now, like nothing bad has happened, don't create it in your

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mind, especially knowing the power that the mind has to then create

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your own reality.

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If I think that something bad is

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about to happen, chances are something bad will happen at some

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point. So to catch that moment and facts

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before feelings, to recognize that.

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Even when I thought there was something to worry about.

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There wasn't necessarily and in the moment, in the present.

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If there is something that has to be addressed, then I can address

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that. If there's something that is like,

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OK, this is a problem, then cool, let's talk about it.

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But otherwise, like if I think about how much time I've spent in

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the past. Worrying in my mind about shit

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that hadn't even happened yet.

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Because when I was 14, that girl

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broke up with me and cheated on me.

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And then, you know, 19 years later I realized, wait, what I'm feeling

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now. This is just a silly example, but

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like realizing that we may still be carrying stuff that's old and

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doesn't serve us and like, based on past experiences.

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Then I, you know, I have this belief that I am not worthy of

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attention or love or success or money or whatever it is.

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And most of them, if not all of them, let's say most of them are

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stories in our heads.

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So learning to look at it and see

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it for what it is, put facts before feelings.

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So then if I do have a reaction to it or a response, I would say

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rather than a reaction.

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And the last few days there have

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been situations where it would have been easy.

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They should be like, i'm out or no, or I'm gonna worry now or let

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me yeah, let me stress about this at night before I go to sleep as

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opposed to like, no, like you're OK and if there's something that

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needs to be.

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And looked at and resolved or

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figured out and you can do that, but otherwise don't.

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Yeah, don't make your life harder than what it needs to be nice and

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then Jonas asks.

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I hope I've said your name alright

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there, Yonas says.

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How do you manifest the reality

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you want to live in? Maybe a question to both of us.

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How do you manifest the reality you want to live in?

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Do I do? You want to.

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I mean, I would, I would, but I am in no way shape or form an expert

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in like at all.

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Like I would point you to people

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that clearly know more about.

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This than me, one of them being

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Doctor Wayne Dyer, I find is very good.

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D3 has really good little videos about manifestation and Doctor Joe

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Dispensa. I only read one book I know I've

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heard. Not controversial.

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Like some people love him, so people don't really like him, but

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I've read one book called becoming Supernatural and that was.

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It was huge in understanding just how like the brain works and how

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that like really just practical things and things that are

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actually happening in your body.

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Chemically, physically, then have

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an impact on how you perceive your reality.

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In my experience, I really just.

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i imagine.

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Whatever I want.

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And then I.

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Start feeling the feelings that I would feel if I already had that.

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And these are these gratitude, excitement, joy.

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And then I try to stay in that place, vibrationally.

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In order to rather than chase chasing something, i'm becoming

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what? Jody Spencer says.

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I'm becoming a magnet.

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Or I'm becoming a magnet to my

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future. And so if you, and these are

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things that talking about it feels weird until then you see like,

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fuck, that actually happened.

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Like, I can't believe this is

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actually like the power that we hold is massive and we don't

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really understand it.

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I don't really understand it.

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See, I would say simply just try it out, even just as an

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experiment, sit maybe in the morning for five minutes and just

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imagine whatever it is that you want with No Fear.

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And then, yeah, feel that and say thank you for that and plant this

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little seed because then how things actually work, the

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mechanisms, I have no idea.

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But I know that doing that,

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conscious first step of seeing it and then starting to act in a way,

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whether it's something you want to change about yourself, a situation

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you want to attract.

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You start living that.

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As if it was already present or feeling as if that was already

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happening. And then honestly, life does the

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rest of the magic.

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I don't know how it works, but it

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seems to work.

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Beautifully said. Yeah I find for

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me the and again i echo Ricardo.

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Well actually I'm completely

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enlightened. You should definitely listen to me

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and here's the tears by my 12 week course that will let's discount it

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now and only 10000 thousand dollars nine thousand nine hundred

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ninety nine.

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But anyway the so from my side

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also like i feel like life is blessed me in many ways.

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Like i think that when things shift for me is when I stop

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thinking too much.

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Myself and I think more of how can

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I help just as far as manifesting goes like the reality I want to

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live in is the one where people get what they need.

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And so if I can be a part of that like being like where can I serve?

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Where is my, where does my passion align with what people need and

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then sort of like align myself to that.

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And then and another thing that I think we've got you touched on it,

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Ricardo, you talked about it is feeling the joy.

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So I focus more.

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I think like OK, i think I want

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this thing like for example, like I want to live.

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Life where I'm surfing three times a day or a week or whatever the

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story I have is or I want a house or I want whatever The thing is.

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And then I go into what is the feeling around that and actually

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let go of a connection or an attachment to the thing itself.

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Because if I can have the feeling, the joy, the peace, the excitement

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of fulfillment, the presence, the what, the health, the well-being

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the peace, the inner peace, if I, if that state, if I am embodying

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that eight it doesn't matter what The thing is that I have.

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It could be completely different to like you said.

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Like if you had just been like, I want the feeling of just like

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knowing that I can sell this car to my friend.

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What does that feel like? Like maybe that you would have

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been immediately found the car papers like.

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But anyway, for me that kind of feels less.

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I don't know, there's it feels more real to me that I'm focused

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more on a state of being rather than receiving some specific thing

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from the outside to make me feel a specific thing.

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It's like, well, if I could just get to the feeling through

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practice and then I do the same thing, I'll breathe.

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I usually do it at the end.

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So I'll as I start my morning

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practice I will think what is the intention and for me it's almost

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always abundance where because I've really struggled with

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scarcity, the feeling of scarcity in my life, even though

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practically on a real level.

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I've had an abundant life, but

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I've I constantly sabotaged that because of feelings of scarcity.

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And So what I'll do is, at the beginning of my practice, I'll

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sit, just set the intention, and even focus while setting the

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intention with a smile on my face.

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Like, just like, oh wow, I get to

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set an intention.

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What a gift.

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Like, that's a gift.

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I just get to sit here and set an

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intention. That's awesome, and then let it go

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and then do my practice breathwork meditation.

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And then right at the end.

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I will bring that.

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What will it feel like to be abundant, to be in a state of

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abundance? And then I take 3 deep, slow

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breaths into my belly, my chest, and I move the energy up into my

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head and I pause.

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And then as I breathe out, I

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really imagine that state I feeling of abundance or whatever

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it is, inner peace sometimes I do, or health or and I'll just imagine

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moving that through all the cells of my being and then out into my

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energy field and out into the world, just like, wow, that's sort

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of abundance.

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Feels like and just feel that.

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Feeling and yeah, so I think that for me that that's really like the

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key piece is the state is what's critical rather than the actual

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external thing. Yeah, the state for sure.

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I was remembering now.

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Because again, it may sound like

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Super Woo woo and what they're talking about, but honestly, like

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just in the last year and a half the stuff that has happened where

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then I looked back and I was like, holy shit, that's exactly what I

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was like before I even reconnected with the woman.

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That I that then took me quote unquote to Costa Rica before Costa

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Rica was even on the map.

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Part of my visualization was I

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would imagine myself on a stage playing for a lot of people and I

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would imagine playing with like the lyrical moments with you guys

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with Sam like and I would imagine the feeling of being like and I

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would like see the whole thing like a movie in my head.

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Like I'm on stage, the crowd's going crazy and then I say please

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give it up for my good friends and then you guys come out and it's

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just and some days I would get so into this.

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Vision that I would have tears like of joy of like my whole body

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would be like buzzing and I would actually feel like there were

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however many people like in just ecstatic that we were there.

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And then I would open my eyes, I would say thank you and I would

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like send out in the universe and then I would kind of forget about

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it. The letting go is a huge part.

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I will not think I was like alright that's done that's the and

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then I will go about my day and then and I did that for a while

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and then. I went on tour with sin.

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Somehow life conspired that me and him would be there at the same

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time and we could do this storm cause and I remember being there

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with him. And like every now and then, like,

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I would look at it would be singing together, I look over and

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I was like, this feels a lot like what I was imagining when I was

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home by myself in Italy on lockdown.

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I didn't make this happen until I've realized, whoa, this could

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actually totally happen.

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And then obviously you have to do

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your part, but you kind of meet life halfway, or life meets you

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halfway. In yeah, in magical ways that I

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don't understand, but it does work, I promise.

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Beautiful well, I think that's a beautiful note to end this on as

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just because I was gonna ask you the final question was gonna be

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like, what would you suggest? Maybe you want to fill it out more

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in a different direction, but what would you suggest to someone who's

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listening to this, who has realized that their life and the

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way that they are perceiving their world and the way they're

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experiencing their world isn't the way that they like it to be?

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What would you advise? What would you do in that

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situation to start shifting and transforming in the direction that

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you want to head? And you again, you may have

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answered that already, but just if there's anything else to add.

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For someone who's realizing that.

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Yeah, that there's that.

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There's more.

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That life is not what they

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thought. Well, I guess it's just to

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clarify, there's like someone who's sitting and see feels maybe

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isolated and overwhelmed, like they see the world is not OK right

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now. Like the financial systems, the

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monetary systems, the education systems, like the whole thing is

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kind of a farce and they want to, they want it to change.

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And now what? Right, i would say, well, first of

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all, you're not alone.

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You're definitely not alone.

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Sometimes, in this specific context, is just about.

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What is the I saw that little meme, something that said like

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you're your vibe attracts your tribe or something like that,

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which again sounds super cheesy, but it's true.

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And the people that see the world the way you do.

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The people that feel the way you do can't find you if they don't

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know that that's how you feel yeah.

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So I don't know exactly, but yeah, be more of yourself.

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And they might be scary, but, like, try.

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Because how would I know? Like, maybe I wanna invite you to

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watch a basketball game, but I don't know that you like

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basketball, you know? So let people know you're like

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basketball in this analogy.

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Something that helps me a lot is,

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to keep playing the three, kind of like.

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Foundations that I, or little mantras that I have in my own life

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is be a friend to yourself.

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Be a friend to others.

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Be a friend to the earth.

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Be it.

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But start being a friend with yourself.

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Don't be don't be so hard on yourself.

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Don't treat yourself the way you would treat a good friend.

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With that, compassion with that, understanding with that.

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Hey, like, it's OK, like maybe tomorrow we'll figure it out.

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Or don't be.

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Yeah, you don't need to be hard on

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yourself and be your friend.

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Number one.

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Keep playing.

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Keep playing is a huge one for me

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because not just like, for me.

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It's like, obviously keep playing

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music but. It brings an element of

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lightheartedness. You know, you could play in many

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ways, but to keep that.

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Yeah, that lightheartedness is

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part of your life because it's so easy to, like, be really serious

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and like obviously our world, our society forces us to, you know?

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You know, there's not a lot of time for play.

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And that's a shame.

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This should be time for play, so

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it could be a little thing, but definitely keep playing whatever

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happens. And then the last one that we have

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explored is stay open to life.

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Just I feel like those 3 umm.

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They can already bring a big shift and maybe it's not big at first,

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but the persistence that we spoke about.

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You know, sometimes if you change your trajectory 1 degree now, it's

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not gonna feel like it's a low, but over time you're gonna end up

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in a completely different place.

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And maybe that's where you wanted

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to end up all along.

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Well, thank you again brother.

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I will definitely be happily sharing this and for all those

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listening to this after it's come out, fantastic.

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And to all you who are watching live, be sure to check out Roaman

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music if you haven't already on the gram ROA MAN music.

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This dude is legendary.

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His songs.

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The only warning I will give you is that they will get deeply,

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deeply embedded in your psyche and you will be singing them for days

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and it'll be magnificent.

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But it's like, there's that term

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earworms. You think?

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It's like, I don't know who, what country uses that term, but it's

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like really they do.

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They crawl inside your brain and

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they're so good, man.

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So yeah, and i like that.

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There's like, if you're feeling like you're frustrated and you

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need to start on the whole, like, lockdowns and the chaos of what's

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been going on, start.

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There, but then definitely move on

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to. Spread on our side and the songs

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that I really like.

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Just a reminder of what we do

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want. I think that's also what we've

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been talking about is like we can only spend so much time focusing

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on what is wrong and what we don't want.

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And you said it earlier, paying attention, like where we pay

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attention, that's what we see.

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If you're hungry and you're

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driving through town, you see restaurants like that just makes

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total sense. So if you are hungry for a

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connected life of meaning, purpose, the remembrance that we

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are already free, community, like connection, the whole vibe, if

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that's what you want, then pay attention to that.

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Give your attention to that and you'll find it.

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It'll be there.

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So trusting that.

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And again, thank you, brother.

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It's a pleasure and an honour to

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collaborate and connect with you as always.

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And I don't know if there's any other last words you'd like, but

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otherwise, thank you again.

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Really appreciate.

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I just want to say thank you for putting this together and for

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creating this space for us to have this conversation and for putting

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yourself out there and having these type of conversations like

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we're already free.

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That's revolutionary in itself.

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So I just want to say I appreciate you and I hope this goes, this

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goes far and many people get to listen not just to this

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conversation, but to all the other ones you're going to have with the

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epic people you're going to have on your podcast.

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And I would just say, if anybody checks out my music and is feeling

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it and wants to get more, I've started sharing weekly unreleased

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new songs on my Patreon page.

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Every week I've just, there's a

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lot of loads of songs that are just kind of sitting in my in my

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brain drawer that I'm excited to start sharing.

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So that could be a place where, yeah, every week there's a new

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song and then you also get to support my music musical projects.

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God knows there are many, and it's a good place to connect.

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Thanks again so much to my friend Roaman for this beautiful

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conversation. We've spoken for years about how

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we should record our conversations.

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They often end up being so in depth and rambling.

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Sometimes they go for hours.

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So I'm really grateful that I get

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to offer just this little insight, this little hint into what a

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conversation between myself and this dear friend are like.

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The best place to find his music and support him is just go to the

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show notes podcast dot we are already free.

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Com podcast.

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We are already freecom and that

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way you'll find all his links linked there to his website, his

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Instagram, his Patreon, and you'll find out loads more about him.

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I've also put heaps of the things we talked about, like the books we

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talked about, the video of the basketball awareness test, which

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which Roaman was speaking to, which is amazing.

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I did it and it blew my freaking mind and a few of the quotes.

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And as I said, yeah, just kind of some of the cool magical stuff so

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I really invite you to take this opportunity to pause before you

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begin the next thing you're gonna jump into after this and kind of

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sit with what is it you would like to take away from this?

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Like what is the value? What have you found inside

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yourself that you didn't know you had?

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What is it that you'd like to develop more of?

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Or even what challenges come up in you?

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What emotions rise up, whether challenging or positive?

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Please let me know.

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You can also leave a voice note,

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which will also be in the show Notes podcast.

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But we are already free.com and leave a voice note, ask a

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question, ask for some support and I will put it in a future episode.

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You know, please be a part of this.

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Let's make this interactive.

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I would love to know who you are

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and what is alive for you in this moment.

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I this podcast like it's hard for me to keep my words small because

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I love speaking and I love sharing stories.

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So I'm really trying to keep the intro like just to a few minutes

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just to really get the info out there that helps people to enjoy

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these conversations with people I find super inspiring.

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And then I'm using the end just to kind of connect with you a bit

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more for myself as I am and hoping that I can be of service and I

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would really love to be able to support you as a listener.

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So again, if you want to leave a voice note, send me a message I

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get in touch, it's all again one more time at podcast.

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Dot we are already free dot com and let me know your thoughts.

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This is a new podcast, so yeah, go there as well.

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There's a link there to leave a review.

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That is probably the most important action if you're wanting

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to support this podcast.

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If you feel like well more people

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need to hear about this is amazing.

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Is yeah, go to podcast.

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Dot we are already free dot com.

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You'll see a link in the show notes to review and leave a review

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on wherever you listen.

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And it makes a massive difference

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like how many more people get to listen to the podcast when there

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are more reviews.

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So that's what I would just ask

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and thank you so much.

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Either way, enjoy i wish you.

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Deep breaths.

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I wish you calm.

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I wish you connection.

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And more than anything, the

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remembrance that we are already free.