India has faced a wide a range of internal security issues since independence, from complex insurgencies to terrorist attacks, communal violence, and electoral violence. In a new Talking Policy episode, Amit Ahuja and Devesh Kapur discuss their groundbreaking new volume, Internal Security in India: Violence, Order, and the State. Amit is an associate professor of political science at the University of California, Santa Barbara. Devesh is the Starr Foundation Professor of South Asian Studies at the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies. In the interview, they explain who does what, the successes of the security apparatus, and troubling challenges and what they might mean for the future of India’s democracy. This interview was recorded on April 24, 2023.