We're talking about Supernatural Season 8, Episode 22 Clip Show. Our AI demon said "The conversation covers a range of topics, including the trials to close heaven, the manipulation of Castiel, the resurrection of Abaddon, and the moral implications of the Winchesters' actions. It also delves into the consequences of shutting the gates of hell and the return of Abaddon." Liz takes Diana back to the past with our Devil's Trap Podcast Clip Show Quiz.

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Challenges of Lawn Care and Water Conservation

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Supernatural News and Demon Possession

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The Trials to Close Heaven

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Manipulation and Resurrection

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Moral Implications and Consequences

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he already sent it? I didn't get that.

He sent it and I haven't listened to it. I downloaded it.

Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast. I'm Diana. And we're going to talk about season eight, episode 22 clip show. We are almost at the end of the season.

And I'm Liz.

almost there.

So close.

I've been dealing with fun power outages, but they all seem to be getting better now. Yay, Dallas and crazy storms. How are you, Liz?

Our weather is, I don't know, like we had some rain last night, but I'm trying really hard not to water the lawn on the place that I'm renting before I leave. Although like I got a new hose and I got a sprinkler. Like tomorrow is the day that I'm allowed to water. But like the grass is all pretty much dead at this point. It looks really shitty compared to like the rest of the houses around me. But also again, I'm like,

We still have like really shitty water problems right now and I don't know if I want to be wasting water on a fucking water in a place that I'm not going to live at in a month.

No, that's a tough one, but it does help with erosion.

Yeah, so that's...

And how so sure, but like this is not a good landscape. Like it's not, it's not a good, it's not a good plot. They did here. So I don't know. Like it's, I'm just torn. And also I don't want to water things because it's a pain in the ass and I'm lazy.

Yeah, that's why we have a sprinkler system. But yeah, we have plenty of water here. It is, we're under flush flood.

Well there's a sprinkler system here but I don't know how it works and they never told me so I kind of feel like that's on them. If you have a tenant move into your fucking property tell them how to use the goddamn sprinkler system and I asked them and they don't know and I've had multiple people walk around my house and be like we do not know or understand how to start this.

things. Yeah, that's reasonable.

Huh. Weird. Yeah. So be it.

I just don't like killing things, you know, I don't like killing, you know, killing like anything much, you know, like even grass.

Well, we've got plenty of water here. My grass is going to grow.

Even grass. Our grass is growing so fast. We have to time when we mow, because it's been raining so fucking much in Dallas for the last like month. But, you know. That's alright. That's alright.

I feel like that time out of in Texas history or Texas, I don't even know if it was in. It was in Texas history. I think it was in science when you had to learn about the different ecosystems of the world. And like there's like the tundra and then there's like the forest things. But like then they like would zoom into Texas and you would have like all the different like.

all of them.

Yeah, we're like, so over here in the Piney Woods, you have like this weather system and then like over in like South Texas, you have like this weather system. I feel like that's what's happening. In our AI show notes, it says we talked about the weather for the first part of the zone. So I want to kind of keep that going.

Yeah.

Womp Womp. Yeah. Well, it was pretty like notable weather, at least in Dallas this past week with Dallas and Fort Worth area this past week. So yeah, it's been a little crazy. And what are you talking about? And we both have travel coming up that will be talk. We have travel coming up that we'll be talking about when we reconvene. So, you know, yeah.

And it's not like we haven't recorded things very closely together. What? No. We're so weak apart. We're in the future.

So I am mainly just prepping for sad travel and Try and just cram a bunch of podcasts into this week. Apparently it's podcast week

Apparently that's what you're doing.

man. Well, let's, let's talk, dive, dive in. Let's dive in. We're at the end of the season. Let's do it.

Hold on. I'm almost there because I I had to do something within our soundboard. Okay? It's like what are you doing in our soundboard? I'm a professional We've done so many episodes. This is so this episode is you know clip show and That is if the reason well before we do that, there is some supernatural news. I forgot about this so

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scared.

Mark Pellegrino Who has who has said he wants to come in our podcast? I just haven't had the balls to reach out to to anybody We just said that in a cameo really cuz we paid him but so he is Been set to star in a dromini series. This is according to Deadline so he's got a new drama in a series called a motel and the

Showrunner is Brian Metcalf and it's about a group of outcasts working at a seedy motel who find themselves in danger when they accidentally uncover a drug smuggling plot not pot drug smuggling plot

for the mafia and there's some additional casting is being finalized and he's also gonna serve Pellegrino is gonna serve as a co -executive producer filming will begin next month in las vegas and it's gonna be six episodes and it doesn't currently have a network but it's being independently financed by the producers and they're gonna sell it after they that's a production which i think is a fucking awesome way to go so go lucifer

Interesting. Interesting.

All right, so clip show though so clip show is season 8 episode 22 as Diana said we're close to the end of this season and So this first aired May 8th 2013 and was directed by Thomas J. Wright and written by Andrew Dab and our recap features Cass a lot and then some metatron and then my love my queen

What happened on?

Yes, she's back apparently. So our up. Right.

We can only hope based on our recap. We never know once we see in a recap. We can just hope.

Well, we are opening scene is in Lost Creek, Colorado. We've got a couple in a cabin and she is stoked. And this dude is not happy about this weekend in the cabin. She's in her happy place and he is freaking out because he remembers getting attacked when he was camping in a tent.

And we're like, my god, we know him. We know him. Because that's just not anybody. That's Tommy.

We know him. We do.

This is Tom, that's Tommy that was rescued by Sam and Dean when he was attacked by a Wendigo.

Man, so all the way from Heartland and so we have this flashback and there's a tent and the woods and then there's some growling and there's freaking out

Yeah. And he's like, he hears a growl and she's like, I don't hear shit. Or maybe it's a bear and she's all excited to go look for a bear. But he's like, no, it's a when to go. You need to hide. And. Well, I have to look out the window if there's a bear too. And he's got like a butane torch as his little weapon. And anyways, she thinks that he's losing his mind.

Also, don't go look for the bear!

He's ready.

But then he's like bleeding, leaning against the door, bleeding from his ears and then gets thrown and he's bleeding from his eyes and he asks for help. And then his head explodes.

Yep, they take off his head in...

These effects were so damn amazing that we had to go back. I had to go and do a little just, hey, let's check in on some of our makeup and prosthetics crew for this. And I know we talked about Toby Lindala before who does the key prosthetics and makeups. He's from Lindala Schmincken FX. And so lately he just was the makeup effects designer for a series for an episode of Divine.

and a new film called Festival of the Living Dead, which sounds like a really good zombie movie. And he's also done some TV work. He did Calamity Jane, which stars Steven Amiel with the, Amiel with the Hell His Name is Arrow, Arrow Dude, and the girl who played Felicity, Emily Bet -Ricards. She is also in it as the main character as Calamity Jane. So it's basically like Arrow, but in the old West.

Okay.

because he plays wild Bill, but he dies. And then like, she's here. So, you know, I guess it's like kind of reverse, but he also, he also did make up for Shogun, which is really popular.

Then on also for prosthetics, there was Jeff Redknapp and he's from Goonworks Films. He was credited as special makeup effects artist, but he's not only done dozens of supernatural episodes, his credits are just freaking jaw dropping and they're always like so cool. So he does prosthetic makeup artists for he is the prosthetic makeup artist for Ryan Reynolds in Deadpool.

wow.

and there is a new Deadpool movie coming out Deadpool and Wolverine.

is just a magical magical being and he's you know won a bunch of episodes and won a bunch of awards and nominated for a bunch of things including he was nominated for best makeup in a dramatic series for the chilling adventures of Sabrina which is so good and his like stuff that he's done has won a lot of things too he's been written directed and wrote like a lot of shorts and things so just cheers out to the special effects

dudes for this episode because it was really really good.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so we pick up with Sam and Dean back in the bunker and they're going through files and Sam is feeling real ill still.

These are files for all the possessions or the last 300 years give them to me now Like my god, I can't even imagine like how I'm just this is like the best library that was ever made and all I want to do is catalog it and help people research it and then like for the research for myself So but yeah, Sam has what Dean thinks is a Yeager sounds like a Yeager hangover. He's not wrong. It sounds like it

It does. So he's going to go get food. And then and Castiel is there. And we knew he was going to be there because, you know, they found him at the end of last episode. But he he likes this bunker because it's very orderly, but he's also not healing as quickly as he had hoped. Dean.

And he does not know what it means to cure a demon either. So he's trying to figure it out. Dean shows up with food. Now this snack makes my head hurt.

Half a beer, jerky, and peanut butter cups.

I think it was a beer, a full beer until he swigged out of it and then jerky and peanut butter cups. And I have been kind of...

Is this boy dinner? Isn't that the thing right now? It's like girl dinner and boy dinner. Is this boy dinner?

I didn't know that was a thing, but I eat kind of like this is maybe why I'm like, why can't why am I just getting bigger and bigger? Because Trader Joe's has these dark chocolate peanut butter cups, and they're so good. They're like Reese's peanut butter cups, but with dark chocolate. They are two two of them equal 140 calories.

sounds delicious.

delicious.

So Dean's going to go to the store and buy food.

This is serving size. Because he was like, thank you, but what the fuck? Like, what is this?

And Cassiel wants to go with Dean and Dean's like, nah, I don't want you to come with me. You stay the fuck here. And so Cassiel starts apologizing for everything.

You have to remember to take your causes on honed in on human emotions, but Dean is just like, no, here's my cold shoulder. You can cram your apology up your ass.

Yeah. Yeah. And he always, he points out that Cassiel always thinks he's doing the right thing.

He is kind of righteous. It's kind of cast this thing. I think it's kind of an angel thing. They're kind of righteous dicks.

Yeah. Yeah. And then Sam interrupts them because he's found something in the files and wants to know if where room seven B is and.

Alright, so we're going to go to what we assume is 7b.

Yeah, and I guess it's like a file storage room. And Sam's trying to tell Dean that he needs to lighten up on Cass and Dean is not hearing it.

Yeah, also the storage room though it has like the most beautiful archival folder boxes and things that are they're not cheap as somebody who's had to order these before for like their these are top of the line stuff and I want them.

Well, they are walking around and basically what they're looking for is a file that was classified on a classified infernal event from 1957. And they used a class system. And this one was. Anyway, this one was class five and the exorcist was a class two is the example they give.

a class five infernal event. And right, so is that higher or lower? Because like if you're like, like you're thinking in like a DEF CON rating system, right? In that zero is like the most bad, like zero, one, two, three, like the higher the number, the more fine you are. But in...

The worst thing.

Class five is that a you're okay and two is an my shit we're getting closer to zero or is it on a scale of one to ten or a scale of one to five? I would really like to see what this was.

They're not clear. They were they do not clarify the class system at all, but apparently.

I would like to see their guidelines on this. I would like to see if it was peer reviewed. I would like to know what other frameworks they used to justify the system.

Well, if you want to know how intense their filing system was, the note in the file just said weird with three exclamation points. So they locate the file box, but while they're looking at Dean notices that there's paint on the floor, so they move the entire shelf without knocking it over. Kind of impressive, actually. And there is a giant devil's trap that takes up half the room and there's spell shackle shackles. devil's trap.

Doot doot.

We don't have the sound bite yet now. It was a different one. I can play it. We'll just play this one. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm guilty.

And.

God.

my anxiety is already high. Don't do that to me. my God. So damn. Well, there is a devil's trap on the floor and they find shackles that are chained to the floor with spells on them. And.

I like to call them manacles, but I probably show the difference between manacles and shackles, but they're kind of leathery and they have like all these like sigils etched into them and they're fucking hot.

that's true.

Either way, Dean's excited that they finally have a dungeon.

Yeah, please tell me how Dean is excited about this. We get this bunker has a dungeon. I'm very I'm also very excited. Like they have a dungeon.

Well, they find the film and they are going to go have movie night. And so they play this and there's a priest smoking and they're talking about a new type of exorcism. And the woman filming is, who is this?

Hot smoking priest.

It's Josie and the Pussycat.

Josie before she is Abaddon. And there's a woman in chains with another priest there and she the woman in chains is a demon.

She's so hot.

Yeah, it's not good. It's not real good.

No, it's not. And the priest, the second priest has holy water. They start this exorcism and it's the one of the other priests cuts his hand and puts it over her mouth and her eyes light up and the camera cuts to Abaddon's face. And then the demon possessed lady is dead. With a. I'm sorry, Josie's face, excuse me. You're right. Josie's face.

to it was a Josie's face, not Avedon's face, because that's Josie's face. But also I do believe that this is an inappropriate number of candles to have around when you're having an exorcism. I would believe that if exorcisms hold true in their, just the things that we know based on, and maybe it's on movies or other things, or just if you're just going Catholic Bible shit, that they could be messy.

Too many?

Right and then things are flailing and maybe you don't have so many little fires That's a lot that that was a fuck ton of candles

Too much open flame. Too much open flame.

It was. It was. Well, this poor demon lady now has a giant hole in her chest that's kind of unexplained. It's real weird.

Right. And you know, it's also like, it kind of looked like she was being smoked, right? We're not really sure.

It's all weird, but the priest is coughing and telling Josie to stop filming.

Right and also just just so we know we can if we want we can translate what they said and We'll hear some of it later But what those translate as we exercise you every impure spirit fixed a soul purified purified

Well, Dean.

That's like the that's how you do an exorcism. I think like ours would be much more much more exciting. So weird.

with three exclamation points. So these are different words from a normal possession, like you said, and it's very focused on the cleansing. But the notes say that our older priest, of these two priests, there was a young one smoking, and then there's the older priest that was doing the exorcism. The younger, older priest is dead, but the younger one is alive and currently is in St. Louis. So.

and did not get lung cancer. I'm very impressed. Hey, hey, hey, yeah, I'm just happy. So they all wanna go, but not you Guillermo.

Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey.

No Dean wants to cast to stay back. And he's like even banged up he wants Sam there because even banged up Sam comes through. So Sam and Dean are going to the church in St. Louis to meet with the priest Father Thompson is the deceased priest and he was the mentor who had unorthodox ideas.

So I texted I have this line in here and I texted my friend and I was like man I had this taint bit that like Diana was just gonna hate but the other phrase thought the demons could be saved because father Thompson wanted to wash away the taint so father Thompson wanted to wash the taint

I knew you were gonna hate it.

I heard it in the episode. I'm like, we're going to talk about washing taints. That's what's going to happen.

Why why would you put the washing and the taint so close together, you know, like how can you not? This is also why I was never really should have like been allowed in churches because I would be giggling about this all the time. It's like, you can be the taint anyway, so they want to wash the taint and maybe if you wash the taint, then a ritual could maybe cure a demon.

work. Maybe. So anyways, but they don't really know what happens if it stays in that possessed body or does the soul go to heaven? No one really knows, but it's because basically like the concept is, is that a demon soul or demon is a human soul corrupted by hell. So.

Which you know and this is you know kind of goes into things that we've been arguing about all season too like whenever they use a demon knife and You're not even seeing if the human is alive, but then now we're bringing up another thing though is what they're saying is alright, so this I

I would have to assume this would be a demon in a meat suit that no longer has a human being in it. Because then they're saying that that soul could be cured and become human again, the humanity can come back. But what if there's another person in there? And that like, like, are you gonna have two, like just like one possessed thing that's okay, and one that's just the person that was in and then like go their merry ways?

and they want their shit back.

It's real weird. It's not well explained, but I don't know. Maybe it's an exorcism where they. But that's not really. Anyways, that's not what they're trying to do. But I would say an exorcism where they just make the soul leave and go to purgatory. Like, I don't fucking know.

No, because that's a different way of being cleansed. This one is the that's how I think when we get to talking about like how like the blood was cleansed, like, he went to confession. I don't know. It's Catholic crap. So anyway, so we got taint taint and Father Thompson experiment with taint. He couldn't turn something. All right. Then consumption. Sam wants to know if he had notes.

I don't know.

I don't know. That's weird.

Yeah. And but yes. So the pre Dean tells priests that Father Sam and that Sam's not all right. And they, you know, they they're going to take, you know, whatever that fiend and every other black eyed bitch and get rid of them. The priest is shocked. He's like, in that condition, Sam's going to be able to do anything. And Dean's like, no, we got it. Let's go. Let's go. We need Father Thompson's things. Hand them over.

He gives Sam a lot of credit in this Ted Lasso believe speech, I think.

He does. He does. I think I think Dean has come around on this. I think part of it was he was reminded that he how much he can depend on Sam when Castiel pop back up because Castiel is kind of.

Also, you know, I tend to, and I think we all do, we defend, especially family members or friends, even when they're fucked up, if somebody else comes at them, we're like, no, no, no, no. Sam is fine, my brother, my brother, my brother will kick your ass, I'll kick your ass, I'll say shit about my brother, so.

Right, that's totally different. Like, no, we don't do that.

Yeah. So at Castiel has decided to go shopping at the Port Little convenience store. And this poor guy at this clerk is just like so distraught. Just keep saying, dude, as he fucks up this entire store.

Cassni's Instacart, so bad.

Yeah, he's got but he's got jerky and busty Asian beauties toilet paper and beer. And maybe eggs I was unclear if he just broke them on the floor if he was actually purchasing them.

Why? Why was he popping his eggs open? I don't know. Cas is doing some weird shit, dude. Dude.

and he was very upset because they're out of pie.

and he knows that's what Dean needs to be happy. And so he could not get his apology pie and he's very upset, but then in flaps, Meditron.

Yep. And Metatron is there and says that they need to go. And Metatron says that in public he goes by Marv.

So apparently Kevin told Marv about Castiel and now he knows they're both free thinkers on heaven's most wanted list. So they he wants to talk without he wants to talk because without archangels there's open warfare in heaven. And so the factions and all this stuff it's all broken. I think I was like yeah I know I'm pretty sure I'm the one that broke that shit. I spilled a bunch of blood and so now I'm trying to atone for that and for betraying my friends.

And then it runs like, yeah, yeah, that's all fine. But heaven needs us to rescue them. And we'd have a big family meeting. And to do that, we have to shut down heaven. So let's go get crepes.

I mean, I mean, that's fair. If I was an angel and I could, you know, it's bad enough that I can pretty much door dash or Uber Eats anything that I want to my house. I am sad that I'm about to lose that capability. So I think I may be like doubling down on that. But if I could just flap to any food. my God. Like I would be like nine thousand pounds. You can just flap to like any crepe.

Apparently there's a great place by me that's really good that I've never been to and I feel bad because I realized that again. This episode reminded me.

I enjoy crepes. The best crepes, however, were in Trippie Springs. I miss you.

I had a crepe in Mexico.

Great back to me.

Creepy.

That's so creepy. All right. So, all right. So factions, crepes, blah, blah. Cass's pity party. And then we're going to the bunker. All right. We're Cass.

Sam and Dean are the and then Sam and Dean go to the bunker.

Where is he? And they're like, I don't know. That's weird. But let's talk about this case some more because Father Thompson recorded about his exorcisms and he had Peter Kent in 19.

So, shit, like, let's just, like, so, like, there are just, like, supposedly in this world, there are just, like, reels and reels and reels of demons who were possessed and then, like, of these priests experimenting on these, like, that's some hardcore shit. Like, that's, on the, you would sell this shit on the dark web now.

lot of possession.

Kinda.

Is this like supernatural faces of death?

It is, it is Supernatural Faces of Death, I think it is. So they at least decide that they don't have to watch all of them and that they can just jump to the last one.

Mm -mm.

Right. We've got Peter Kent and this is trial 15. And we figure out that, I guess. Yeah. And basically the. The. So the concept here is the priest has. Gotten his dog on to confession to purify his blood drawn his blood. Right.

Again, so many handles.

Right, so.

So and this is a like, it's a by like Catholic, the Catholic dogma, right? And I'm not shitting on it. I'm just saying this is by Catholic dogma. He has purified his legacy went to confession. So he could not commit any sin in between.

that confession and this demon purification thing or his blood would no longer be so like no impure like how far are we going to venial sins like did he get like no impure thoughts no impure thoughts and then you know you're going to have an impure thought because you're going no impure thoughts no impure thoughts

I mean, maybe not. People become, there's people that become priests that have...

Anyways, so I just have I have issues with this purifying blood thing because that's just you know, just anytime you hear I hear I like as you should anytime you hear those phrases put together unless it's involving like I am trying to make sure something and a blood transfusion is purified because I don't want like you to get sick. You should go.

It's weird.

It's way.

Well, they he is purified, then extracted his own blood and asks Mr. Kent, who is possessed and apparently as a demonic form. Eight, his children.

So his.

It's so bad because it gets to be kind of funny because he says it so many times. When you ate your children, how did you feel? And I feel like it's a metal song. When you ate your children, how did you feel?

So his screening question, well, he's, he screens them.

It is.

Or Bob Dylan, how does it feel?

when you age your children.

So yes, it's just absurd. I'm sorry. I'm not laughing and eating children. It's just absurd in the way this goes.

Well, he's, he's shooting him in the neck. He's shooting him in the neck with purified blood and, and, and, and asking how he felt about eating his own children. And it goes from orgasmic and we get to another round. We get hours and hours later, we're on six doses and.

He's just snarky and saying shit like they tasted stringy.

anyways, and we get to our eight and holy water. It's just and then they start. Then the. The the priest starts the exorcism again and he slices his hand and puts it on the mouth of this guy.

So is it like, I was calling it like a face palm, like what do you call that? Like a face slap, like I don't.

I don't know. He's put his hand over his mouth. I don't know if there's a word. I don't know. And he asks him again about how it felt when he ate his children. And and then Peter Kent starts crying, saying, why did I laugh? I'm so sorry. I was a monster. And now he's a man again. He's no longer a demon.

When you eat your children, how do you feel?

But he's not also he's not Peter Kitten though, because it's still not his children. He's the demon. Like so he's whoever the demon was, he was a different human, theoretically a different human soul, but some demons were fallen angels, but they were never human souls. So complicated. So, but.

No! Who the fuck is he?

Right. Right.

You are a man and you have been saved.

Saved. Cured. A demon has been cured. So Sam's like, all right, so we need blood, consecrated ground, and a demon. Let's go. And yes. But also so is Marv, because Marv and Cass are having crepes. And a waitress is flirting with Cass, and it makes Marv jealous. But basically,

Dean, you're a dumbass.

that he did not pick a better looking vessel. it's kind of like, hey man, stop, you know, stop talking down to yourself. Didn't you write any self -help books when you're like the scribe of God? Like there was no like Lizzo for Metatron.

Right. Well.

Well, Marv knows that what the trials are to close heaven because he wrote them down and he wants to do this because he thinks that'll be good for the angels so that their fighting doesn't spill over into earth.

Hey, Ro!

And we also get the gist about why the tabloids exist too. So we get this idea, the basic idea that if Leviathans are out of control, they get sent back to purgatory. Demons, if they act up, they get locked in hell. And angels get all uppity, then they get stuck in heaven. So now we know like why these pull the lever things exist. And it kind of makes sense, right?

It does. But.

But there's no human one interesting, right? Like there's only like, and why only Leviathan? Like, is there a vampire one? Is there a werewolf one? Is there a bug in your drink?

But I feel like Leviathan was stronger than those other creatures, so it's different. It needed a separate holding zone.

I think it's interesting, right? Like, of the supernatural creatures that is like angels and demons that makes it's like angels, demons and Leviathan?

Yeah, but yeah, it's a weird one. But I guess Leviathan was so well, they were so ancient and so like undefeatable. I guess that's why. I don't know. Either way.

Yeah, yeah. Anyways. So anyway, so he is manipulating Cass. He is like, I would like to do this, but I can't. Wish I could. I can't.

Cause I'm, cause I'm just a pencil pusher. I need you to do it Cass. You're a warrior.

You're the muscle.

Yeah, I've had people to... Anytime someone tells you you're a warrior, and I've had people say that to me, like recently...

And that heaven needs you.

Yeah. Anyways, but Cass we know like he does love being his martyr, right? It is one of his favorite go to things.

Mm -hmm.

I got it, hold on.

I got it out of my drink.

Now she's gonna eat it all Renfield style. All right.

yeah. So he says the first trial is you have to cut that waitress's heart out because she's anethelm.

Yeah, and then he just like becomes a bigoted asshole and he's she's just like she is an abomination because as if you don't remember Nuffolim are products of angels and humans.

Yeah. And Cass like, well, she's innocent because she didn't fucking choose that. And I was like, yeah, you're right. But guess what? Too bad. You got to pick her life or your family. Angels. Sorry.

Yep, don't like it. Don't like this at all. Nope. Nope. Nope. He also plays like this family car, but there's just all this pressure that

Mm -mm.

Icky, icky and not trusted and it's somebody trying to knock his hands dirty but involve other people.

He's taking advantage. Yeah, he's taking advantage. I feel like he is taking advantage of Cass.

Yeah. So Sam and Dean are in a warehouse. It's a very, very well lit one, though, so I'll take it.

You know, because that's where you go. That leaves you for a very bad idea though.

it's so stupid. This is so dumb. They decide they're going to stitch Abaddon back together because they know where this demon is and they know that Crowley is going to keep demons away from them. So this is what they need to do.

So they have first her beautiful head in a box. It's so pretty. It's just so pretty sitting there. It's just, it's wonderful.

Yeah, and they sit it together and she opens her eyes, cracks her neck and she's.

And she's just even hotter with this neck scar and Courtney love makeup like she's got her like your lipstick It's just kind of like smeared a little bit across her face She's just got her smoky eyes now disintegrated into a little bit of trash panda and She has never looked more gorgeous

Yeah. Well, she wants to cloud Dean's eyes, but apparently they didn't give her her hands back because they didn't want her to be able to fight them. she will stump you to death.

So what will she do, Diana? What will she do without her hands? That's right, motherfuckers, I'll fucking stomp you. You think I won't? Like, come on, like.

Well, they remind her that she can't do much because she's got a devil's trap bullet in her head, which is the only time they've ever done that. And we don't know why, but OK.

Okay, this is the one time that we decided occasionally remember that we can do this, but you know, this is the one time.

Yeah. And so she knows about Father Thompson. She remembers him. And apparently she's the one that ripped him up to make an example about of him. So she was aware of what he was doing and everything. So Sam's phone rings while they're standing there and he is getting a phone call from 666. Guess who?

You goddamn blessed man that has that be your caller ID. It's ha ha.

Well, he goes to take the call from Crowley. Abaddon finds out that Crowley is the king of hell and Abaddon is pissed.

I love this boss bitch shit. Just like what the fuck that salesman? That salesman is king of hell. Fuck no.

But Sam and Dean decide to be too fucking blase about this whole thing and they both go outside together to take this call from Crowley and leave Abaddon alone, even though she has no hands and is tied up.

Why?

To me, this is just fucking like you. Why are you underestimating her? Like she's a fucking knight of hell. What the why this to me is like this is a Winchester faux pas for for sure.

So dumb. so dumb.

Yeah, it's dumb.

And he's like, did you read the Denver times? And I'm going to text you an address. Well, in the meantime, Abaddon's got magic, her demon magic, her hand to crawl by itself out of the box that it's in on the desk and crawl up to her mat. They're not going to reattach to her wrist. no, that's not useful to her. It's going to crawl into her fucking mouth and pull the bullet out of her head.

her claws look fucking perfect. They have this beautiful like red gloss on them. They're not, you know, they're just a perfect oval shape with a little bit of a point in them. Just enough that they can pull like the semen out. And I'm not a nails girl. Diana is a nail girl. But like, these are just like, they make me want to just want to go get my nails done. They're so pretty as they dig this shit out.

So, so beautiful. And also just this thing moment. Like it's very Adam's family and it's just the whole prosthetics of the hand crawling or whatever was used for this, the special effects. We're just, just great.

It's well done.

Yeah. So outside, Dean's reading this article about Tommy and Sam remembers him and they're all upset. Yeah. And Sam's like, yeah, duh. So they go back inside and they find that Abaddon is gone and the bullet is on the floor. And then they get another text from Crowley with an address in Indiana. And then Dean goes, shit, I remember Indiana. That's way true. That's a witch and baked goods situation. And this must be a trap.

Because he's not a dick. Dean's like, I know that name. Who?

So masses.

Spike and Cordelia!

But we got to go. So they drive to the address in the rain. And this was if we were this was the chick that ate the cupcake with the beating heart in it.

and made cupcakes and she's still making cupcakes and they all look so I want them. They're all pink and fluffy and the buttercream looks amazing. Give them to me.

Thanks. Yeah, I think I'd be I'd be scarred. I would be I don't know. I don't think I could you still make cupcakes after that?

I mean, they're cupcakes.

I mean, I don't know if I make cupcakes anymore. I just go to like cake or cookies at that point. I don't know either way. And this lady is her Jenny, who is dead. She's dead. She's all burnt up on the floor. Looks like she stuck her head in the oven, but not. But yeah, she's dead. And Crowley calls them again. And. Yeah, and he is going to explain what the fuck he's doing.

decline, I'll burn it.

666 is calling.

And that he is killing everyone that the Winchesters saved. He has a research team, but really, he's actually reading the supernatural books, which is kind of funny. And he is going to.

I also just love the idea of him getting really into it, you know, you're really good into a book and you can't leave and he's eating a sandwich, reading one of the supernatural books, like, over a sink.

I'm gonna say it.

But is he like hiding it inside something else? What would he hide it inside of? You know what I mean? Like when you hide a book in another book.

What?

Like probably Dante's Inferno or something, you know?

There you go. There you go. All right. So he explains that every 12 hours, he's going to kill someone that they saved. Every 12 hours, he's going to kill someone that they saved until they give until they give him the demon tablet back and stop their trials. That's it.

The art of the deal.

Yeah, I know you can't stop me or you can't stop me even though I know you'll try. But whatever. In the meantime, hey, go check out this hotel room in Indianapolis. You've got 57 minutes. Bye.

He also refers to Kevin as the cutest little prophet and I love it. I do love him. He's so good. Now, so we go back outside our creepy place. Creepy, creepy.

Yeah, and they're and more, more creepy creeps. These guys are being creepy at the crepe place. Marvin Cass watching this waitress leave work and.

and he's just subtly pressuring him just like, bleh.

And she's like, by the way, I see you guys. And also, I can see your fucking halos. I just want to live my life. And I was like, I'm sorry. And then she fucking attacks her eyes light up. She's throwing Castiel around. Marv kind of tries to help and gets like totally like checked. And then Castiel stabs her in the neck.

In the meantime, Sam has arrived at this hotel and Sarah. Is there?

And it is we determine Sarah Blake and we'd seen right before his fight, the hands like cutbacks of Sarah and Sam make it out like, shit, like I remember her kind of. But do you do you really remember her? Do you even remember what happened back then, Diana? All right, well, we're going to see, we're going to see what you remember, because this is a clip show.

So we're going back in time. So our first throwback that we had in this episode was to Tommy Collins and that was from season one, episode two, when to go. Now during the introduction, I said that what sucked was it Sam Dean camping.

Yes.

or Heartland.

You said Dean sucks. Camping? I did.

No camping and you agreed. What word could you not stop saying?

Wendigo. Wendigo. Because I was saying it all kinds of ways. Wendigo. Wendigo. Wendigo.

Wendigo!

Windy!

There you go. So our next one, Jenny Klein. She was from season seven, episode two, Hello Cruel World. In that intro, I said, when this happens, maybe you should lighten up a little. When Spike tells you to, when you're taking life advice from Robert Smith, when the spooky girl says things have gotten too dark.

The third one, when the spooky girl says things have gotten too dark.

That is correct. All right. Also in the introduction, you said there was Leviathan what everywhere spit, wit or shit.

I'm gonna go shit.

There was shit. There is a vial of shit everywhere. Our last one that we've just run back into, Sarah Blake. She is from season one, episode 19, Providence.

than shit everywhere.

Huh.

Okay.

Whose birthday episode was it?

It would be season one, episode 19 would be yours. Damn it.

No, it was yours, bitch. It was your birthday episode. What was your present?

was that like, that was, I'm trying to think about timing.

You're never going to get it. It was the return of creepy ghost children. Okay. And this is like, so I need to be multiple choice. And in this introduction, I said I was putting what on my Jeep. Was it a flamethrower, bazookas, pinnacles or kittens?

Is it cakes? yes.

flame terror.

And also, I thought that all creepy dolls should be what? Should they be hugged to death, killed with fire, given fashion makeovers, or thrown into the ocean?

with fire.

It was filled with fire. Although now I'm kind of going into maybe fashion makeovers. I don't know.

the ocean. that fashion makeover. See, that's the way my brain was for the, for the flamethrower instead of the pentacles. But there you go. I didn't do great.

So that was our clip show, we went all the way back. This is why I was listening to our introductions from many times. I'm glad those are also available. Go watch them on our YouTube channel. All right, so we're gonna cut. So we had the fight, da da da da da da, and now we're at Sarah's hotel.

Yay.

Now we got Sarah. Yeah, and they've gotten her up to speed very quickly. And now there's just in 16 minutes, Crowley is going to kill her.

Yeah, and so they have they're pulling out doubles traps, exorcisms on tape, finally, and shotguns.

Mm -hmm.

I seem to be wisen up. I don't know. Either way. And Sam's like, we're not going to. And they're like, we're not going to let him kill you. Insane is kind of what we do. And she's very calm about this. But guess what? She's wearing a wedding ring now. And so Sam asked her and she's like, yeah, it's Ian. He's in search and rescue. I guess that's kind of you all do too. Look at that. And she has it. And she has a daughter. So.

Finally getting a plan of action together.

And she asks about him and he's like, he's like, I'm the same. She's like, no, you're not. You're more focused and confident. You grew up, but I miss your old haircut.

Your hair sucks. It's stupid. Cut it, Sam. That's what she says. And then the phone rings. And then I also appreciate that Sarah just like whips out a gun. And I like that she's just like, fuck you. Yeah. Yeah.

She's just ready. Fuck you. I'm ready. Yeah. Well, when the phone rings, it's the hotel room phone, which is key component here. So they're on that phone now. And there's a countdown and she just starts choking and collapses. And so Sam's with her. Crowley is like, she's dying. Nothing you can do about it. And they're like, he makes a Dean calls Crowley a son of a bitch.

And Crown is like, well, son of a witch, actually. And...

That's right son of a witch and his mom is the bestest witch in the world and I want her now Now give me my marina, but she's not here yet. So let's find the hex bag Which should be a fun game to play

Yes. So they are frantically searching for this hex bag while he will cast. Yeah. Or what Crowley is explaining how he's going to keep anything hell related away from them. So they're not going to be able to do their last trial. And that's just all there is to it. And how poetic it is that Sam took Sarah's breath away. And he goes on, he's monologuing, saving people, hunting things, the family business, the people they saved.

I really wanted beer when I heard that.

The people they save justify how they live. Alcoholism, damage and pain. And it's the one thing that lets you sleep is these people that you've convinced yourself that you've saved.

It's real dark.

It's real dark, but it's also very insightful and true. This is, you know, the the bottom line is, hey, Winchester's, you're pretty shitty dudes. You don't do a lot of good things, right? You're out there. You're committing credit card fraud. You're doing breaking and entering. It's like you're committing a felony a minute. And you're also like Dean, you know, really like spreading SEDs or whatever, like throughout the country. And Sam's just like running over dogs and shit. And but then they're like, but.

I saved people so it's okay, right? And so what happens? What happens?

If if all those people, if you aren't actually say these people aren't saved. And Sarah's not Sarah's dead, Sarah's dead, Sarah's dead. That's how this ends. Sarah's dead. I don't like it. This makes me very sad. I don't like it. I think there's more to it than that. And Crowley is like, yeah, I want complete surrender. You need to stop the trials and the phone in the phone goes dead and Dean throws the phone and it breaks on the floor in the hex bag within the phone the whole time.

these people aren't saved. Then how do you justify this?

That's fucked up, but also awesome!

it was so brutal! Brutal!

yeah, so all of that, you have all these things that are on it, so the boys are kind of broken and they go back to the bunker.

Yeah. And Sam is not okay. He's very upset. Dean's just like, Nope, fuck it. We're going to stick to the plan. And Sam's like, we can't, we're not going to be able to get near anything hell related. So what we're just going to sit here and watch the people that we save die. Maybe we just can't fucking win. Maybe we have to take Crowley's deal and be done. Dean's like, Nope, we're going to keep doing this. We're going to fucking kick ass. That's all there is to it. And, and Sam's just kind of quiet.

King of the ass.

Well, I mean, I'll say I was with him, right? He said he's doing his coat speech, right? And then like you with me and there's just nothing. But we don't know. Like Sam could be like thinking about it, but the screen goes to black. So we don't know.

I don't know.

This is how fucking it fucking ends that way. So before we get to final thoughts, because that was a ending. Any anybody talk about casting wise?

Cast. Yeah, so we weren't really effectively doing casting or casting couch in the first couple of seasons. So I did go ahead and include them here. So our Sarah, as a reminder, was Taylor Cole. She's been in episodes of numbers, CSI, Melrose plays NCIS, Entourage, Two and a Half Men, and Ballers. She was Rachel on the TV show Heroes. Sophia in the originals and done a lot of Hallmark stuff.

Tommy went on to do, to play Ty in Heartland, which was a regular series. He's played by, I'm sorry.

Which is, you know, my joke about what Liz said sucked. See? That's the heartland thing.

Yeah, the Heartland. Yeah, I know. It's sorry Tommy was played by Graham Wardle.

Yeah, and also I think Wardell sounds, and I said this when we talked about him, Wardell sounds like Waddell. And also I really do love Heartland because it's about horses. So.

I never watched it.

It's it's very wholesome. It is a very wholesome show. And but really, you know, it's at least like I think I watched the first 10 seasons or something, but it's really about, you know, at the bottom, it's about a girl and her love of fucking horses and women love horses. We just do fuck off.

Okay.

Yeah, there you go.

okay.

X -Files and Smallville. He was Macon in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. He was in Heartland also. He was Dr. Cuddle in Battlestar Galactica for 37 episodes and Grandpa Flynn in Tron Legacy. So he had quite a career. Jenny Klein was played by Cindy Busby. Episodes of Vampire Diaries and a lot of Hallmark. Shelley. that was who was that? I missed my spot.

that's the girlfriend. She was played by Stephanie Bennett. She's been in episodes of I Zombie and Lucifer and was Snow White in the Descendants movies at Disney kind of ish movies and Lydia in Shadowhunters, which was a show based on a book that did not get ready. Our store clerk was Kavon Deep higher and. Dude.

Dude!

Here's an episode of I Zombie Magicians Wayward Pines and Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. So he's been in a lot of things we watch. Dude, our young father, Simon, was played by Alessandro Muro, and he's been in episodes of Fringe, The Flash, Riverdale and Firefly Lane. Our Peter Kent demon was Omari Newton, and he's been in episodes of V, Fringe and X -Files. He was in

Dude.

40 episodes of Continuum and he was the hostage rescue commander in Skyscraper with the Rock.

That was a fun movie. hello cat. The cat has come to say hello at the end of the episode. So thank you for that. Yes, that was a lot of fun people. A lot of fun faces and names.

I think she does.

Yes. So this was a stressful episode. I don't like this.

Yeah, there's a lot of timing shit, like people being blackmailed.

And I don't like Marv. Now I don't like Marv. I was all excited about meeting Marv even though I thought he was kind of a dipshit. You were excited to meet him in the last episode and now you're like, fuck Marv.

Well, Nightmare is fucking bigger.

I went from like, I went from being like, he's kind of a dipshit, but it's cool to have his character in here. And now I'm like.

Now you're like now you're just like back to fucking booger. I fucking hated booger. Booger was a gross character and now you're now you're just booger again. So I'm calling Metatron booger for the rest of the until he's gone. The categories. OK, thank you. So I'm glad I have that approval. So yeah, so that happened. But, you know, so we are at. The end of the season and the whole thing was we're supposed to shut the gates of hell.

Aww.

Yes.

Right. Hail. Supposed to shut the gates of hail.

I don't know why I just said hell that way. We're gonna set the gates of hell. And now the question is, can like they just be blackmailed into not doing that?

of the cost of how many lives maybe. I mean, because that's what this whole point is to saving people. Their job is saving people. Are they saving more people by letting the people they save die or by closing the gates of hell? And that's the

Are you, so you're turning into a trolley situation now? Like, so.

That's what they have to do. But the Shalai situation is bullshit.

I mean, they just let, you know, let all the people they saved go and then I bet who's even to say like shutting the gates of hell is a good thing, right? Like.

Nobody's like we've talked about nobody's even assessed what that actually means and does it's all theoretical all Dean sees is all there won't be any more demons get now But it doesn't solve anything else or answer any other questions about what the ramifications are

It's kind of like somebody decided to do a really big maneuver and didn't think it through. And so maybe like before like you do giant things like shut the gates of hell, you should mainly take a step back and think about the consequences. I don't know, that just seems like a reasonable thing to do. And I'm sorry.

What?

That's silly.

I'm sorry. You know, it's part of as I've learned of an INTJ and we're planners. So I, you know, I like to have things planned out. So if I'm going to do something significant that would affect billions of people. And apparently in billions of species, right, because then we know that there's angels and demons. I may just want to like chessboard that shit out to see like.

What?

What happens if I get rid of demons? What happens to all the bad people when they die? If you're going in this world of there's a heaven and hell, what happens?

Right. Where do the bad people go? What happens to all the bad people that are already in hell? Do they just stuck there forever? What about the good people? What about the good people?

Are they stuck there forever? Because as we're saying here, demons are human souls that have been twisted and they can be saved. So now you're just letting all those souls that could potentially be saved be stuck in hell for eternity?

And.

get locked. Like Bobby. Bobby would have been.

I don't think y 'all are thinking your shit through.

They're not thinking this through! We know this.

I'm better idiots.

And now they gotta figure out what the fuck's going on with Abaddon cuz she just out there now

Anyways, anything else on this?

Avedon's back, yay! At least I had something good that happened. My girl's back. She don't mean to be so naughty.

Alright.

Anyways, look at that now. All right, we're gonna go right at the hour. It was like perfect. All right, cheers, Jerk.

tears bits.