We're not live yet.
::Now you are.
::I thought we'd get to meet my X-Men.
::No, we did.
::We did.
::It just was delayed.
::It was delayed.
::Sorry about that.
::I'm still fueled by the ones that slumber,
::that stand out amongst the
::one hit wonders.
::So when the dust settles and
::the sun is under the horizon,
::y'all should run the numbers.
::Uh, who the f*** won't work with me?
::Heart is out and I say that reluctantly.
::Cause it should go without saying,
::but y'all playing dumb.
::Welcome to Films of Black and White,
::everybody!
::Alright, alright, alright.
::How are you all feeling?
::It is an outstanding Monday
::to be with you all.
::Y'all, we're gonna talk a little X-Men 97.
::We are going to talk
::superpowers and animation,
::and it's just going to be good,
::good stuff.
::So super excited to get into
::that with my guys.
::Maybe there might be some other stuff,
::but y'all,
::that's what this is going to be.
::So Brian's going to do it,
::but I'm going to do it too.
::Spoiler warning.
::If you're one of those folks who's like,
::hey,
::I'm going to wait until all of X-Men
::97 is out.
::Wait no longer because it is
::out and we are going to spoil it.
::So put a pin in it here
::before we really get into
::the deets because we're
::probably going to spoil some stuff.
::But in order to do it well, Brian.
::sorry yeah brian in order to
::do it well rogue holding
::cap shield brian roush how
::you feeling I'm feeling
::good to talk about x-men 97
::I we we watched this finale
::like last like multiple
::days ago so I'm very pumped
::to talk about this on the
::pod I feel like we've
::We've saved a lot of this energy.
::We could have done a week by week thing,
::but like I'm really happy.
::We're just going to talk
::about it as like one big chunk,
::especially because I'm
::pretty high on this.
::I feel like I have not been
::having that as a secret.
::I've not been quiet about that.
::So very excited to talk about it.
::And yeah, just happy to be with my guys.
::I'm happy to be with my guys
::and talk about X-Men.
::Like it's going to be a great night.
::It's going to be a great night.
::Yeah, it's going to be absolutely great.
::And Brian,
::you had a photo finish with
::bedtime as I had a photo finish.
::And so I'd like to.
::And as we said before we started the live,
::when everyone to understand
::that being an adult is both
::a lie and a con.
::Yes, everyone.
::Yes, that was a racket.
::It's a racket.
::So, yeah, that was our pre pro.
::Did we talk about the show?
::Absolutely not.
::We talked about adulthood.
::Why would we talk about
::transitions and what we're
::going to cover when we could really,
::really get into the facts
::of how we've achieved.
::Why would we do that?
::If we had a producer,
::they'd be yelling at us.
::It's fine.
::Can you talk about the show?
::No.
::Can you please plug the socials, please?
::Not now.
::We're talking about all this shit today.
::You know what, fictional producer Gina,
::I want to talk about how
::it's great and just why I'm
::wildly unprepared to be an adult.
::That's why fictional producer Gina.
::Take it away, Doug.
::Sorry.
::Absolutely.
::Marcus J. Destin, everything feels lusty.
::How are you feeling, sir?
::Feeling good.
::I'm in the same feelings of my guys.
::Just happy to be here.
::Happy to be with my guys in
::this safe space.
::Happy to talk.
::X-Men 97,
::I had a couple rants I need to go on.
::Prior to X-Men 97.
::Yeah, do it.
::Maybe not a couple.
::Maybe it's really just one.
::So I'll get to that when we get to it.
::But just happy to be here.
::Ready to rock with my guys.
::But Doug, bring your ass, Wagner.
::How are you feeling?
::I'm feeling great.
::I had a really good weekend.
::So we had a dance recital for Harper.
::So she did two shows on
::Saturday and Sunday.
::She did quite well.
::Yes, it was with Votto.
::Good.
::And I've realized and come
::to the conclusion that I
::don't understand tap dance
::just as an art form.
::I don't understand.
::I don't get it.
::Like, I don't, you know, ballet.
::Get it.
::like all the other dances I get,
::but if someone's like, Hey,
::do you understand why tap is a thing?
::No, I don't.
::I don't get it.
::I don't understand it.
::I don't understand it when
::there's music playing, like it just,
::it throws me off.
::So that was the realization that I had.
::And that's what I have.
::And I've learned that about myself.
::And now all you know about that,
::know that about me too.
::And more importantly, closer to you,
::the Timberwolves one.
::Game 7.
::The first time in 20 years.
::So very excited about that.
::That is actually where my AKA comes from.
::There was an interview with
::Anthony Edwards right after.
::And Charles Barkley goes,
::I haven't been to Minnesota in a while.
::And he just stops and he just goes,
::bring your ass.
::I wanted that injected into my veins.
::Because it wasn't like a...
::He's like, what?
::Bring your ass.
::That's all it said.
::And this was on live TV.
::This was on TNT.
::So it was in...
::incredible they cannot lose
::inside the nba like they
::cannot like they're selling
::I think they'll sell it or
::tnt tnt basketball is no
::longer going to be a thing
::or whatever the deal is
::yeah I saw that and they're
::they're walking around
::they're trying to ship it
::where they're trying to
::pitch it to other you know
::um charles barton and chad
::are trying to pitch it to
::other stations but man
::that's a that shows a fucking gym man
::yeah yeah I love their I
::love their analysis I love
::their takes like it's good
::conversation and so yeah
::it's been it's been fun to
::watch it was amazing too
::because in the post game
::anthony edwards when they
::went I just you know
::they're like how do you do
::it ant man he's just like
::you know I just I want to
::kill everything in front of
::me and I'm just like this
::guy has no he has a filter
::but he knows exactly how
::far he can take it and I
::appreciate that like the
::main thing that came from him was
::I just want to kill
::everything in front of me.
::That's legendary.
::That's incredible.
::Just keep saying stuff, man.
::Bring your own.
::everything in front of you
::you usually get a guy like
::that in like bigger places
::like okay the bay or the
::lakers or chicago like you
::know what I mean right in
::chicago that's the
::comparison that they always
::compare him to is michael
::jordan oh yeah like to see
::that energy in minnesota
::and it's coming from him
::and the thing is he's doing
::it because that energy is
::like it's working
::Like whatever it is,
::his team on board to like, I'm,
::I'm 1000% down after the game six,
::he was like, or after game five,
::I forgot which one of game six.
::He was like, Oh, he told the people in the,
::in the, in the locker room,
::I'm gonna see y'all
::motherfuckers for game seven.
::Don't worry.
::Like, yeah, that was incredible.
::Yeah.
::Yeah.
::I'm going to be in Minneapolis next week.
::And so it is very possible.
::I'm up there in that energy.
::Wow.
::See what happens.
::I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to,
::I told Brittany,
::cause when they won last night,
::I looked at Brit.
::I'm like, I'm being Minneapolis next week.
::She's like,
::do you know how expensive that
::ticket's going to be?
::And I was like,
::yes yes I do I said maybe
::I'll just wait till last
::minute and someone's trying
::to offload it or there's
::like one up in the nose
::bleeds like we'll we'll see
::what happens I will report
::live from that beat if I am
::if I am there as you should
::yeah this is this is uh
::this is a uh a movie
::podcast not a basketball
::podcast oh right tell folks
::how they can stay in touch with us
::Hey folks, I'm Brian Rauch,
::and I'm here to tell you
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::Films in Black and White,
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::And again, spoiler warning.
::I know I have,
::I know I have a social media
::acquaintance that was like,
::I'm not watching this until
::it all comes out.
::So that's you.
::We're spoiling everything.
::We're going to talk about
::everything from Jubilee to Wolverine.
::So I just, I can't,
::I couldn't think of another,
::a apocalypse to Wolverine.
::I can think of a Z, but, but yes, so we're,
::we're getting into all of X-Men 97.
::There you go.
::And disc track loading has
::things to do and places to
::go and people to see tonight,
::so I guess we won't waste any time.
::We won't pussyfoot around it.
::We won't dance around it.
::We won't prolong the inevitable.
::We won't wait a single moment more.
::Absolutely not.
::We have a game we like to
::call Catch That Quotable.
::Catch That Quotable!
::Catch That Quotable!
::The rushed sounds of Marcus.
::I was laughing because he was like,
::we're not going to hesitate any longer.
::Oh, no, I was going to keep going.
::And then you stalled out.
::No, you froze.
::Oh, I did?
::It was perfect timing.
::Fucking better.
::I love every minute.
::We have patched that.
::Quotable.
::All right, gentlemen,
::are you ready for this week's quote?
::Ready.
::Hit me.
::Hit me.
::Hit me.
::Here we go.
::Whether you end up in heaven
::or hell isn't God's plan.
::It's your own.
::You just have to remember what it is.
::Whether you end up in heaven
::or hell isn't God's plan.
::It's your own.
::You just have to remember what it is.
::I just remember what it is.
::I think you have to remember
::what your plan is.
::It's not God's plan because
::it's your plan.
::The only movie that this
::feels like it could be...
::Do you all remember that
::movie What Dreams May Come
::with Robin Williams?
::Yes.
::That's a good guess.
::That feels like this could
::be in that same sphere, that same arena,
::but I am not 100% on that at all.
::I was thinking the one with Keanu Reeves.
::Oh, a little bit too heavy.
::There was a devil's advocate.
::There was a devil's assistant.
::Devil's advocate.
::Devil's advocate.
::Yeah.
::Yeah.
::That's with that's with Keanu Reeves.
::And then an Al Pacino is the devil.
::I feel like.
::Yeah.
::Yeah.
::Yeah.
::Yeah.
::That's a movie I haven't
::seen in a long time,
::but I would love to rewatch.
::Yeah, it's heavy.
::Yes, very, very, very much so.
::Yeah, it gets sad.
::Yeah, it does.
::It does get sad.
::Yeah, that's the time.
::And we're a little cold, so that's time.
::And he doesn't want to be in the doghouse,
::so, you know, it's a kid's bedtime.
::Oh, I get it.
::I get it.
::I mean, that sounds like a hidden problem.
::Hey, if you're a Patreon member,
::you can do that.
::You're like, what an asshole I am.
::That sounds like a him problem.
::Need I remind you I was in a
::car for eight hours?
::That's all right.
::Yep, there it is.
::Yep, that's the full circle moment.
::Brian, go ahead.
::No,
::I'm going to go devil's advocate for my
::guess.
::I know that that's wrong
::because that dialogue is a
::little bit too light for that movie,
::but that's going to be my guess.
::All right.
::I'm going to go the late part.
::No, don't stop.
::No, don't.
::You don't want me to stop?
::Brian, you went a romantic comedy?
::You went a romantic comedy
::with Keanu Reeves?
::Is this movie about God?
::No,
::it's technically I don't consider a
::romantic comedy.
::Just to put it out there.
::Have you all seen that movie?
::Yes.
::Okay, spoiler alert.
::Keanu Reeves gets smashed by a bus.
::That dude dies.
::I did not know that.
::Yeah, Sandra Bullock's eating her sandwich,
::and in the background is his character.
::He just gets smacked, run over by Buzz.
::Can I just say... All right,
::I'm going to say it after
::we do our guesses.
::I'm going to say what was
::really funny about that exchange.
::I can tell you what's really funny.
::It's my goddamn internet.
::That's what's making this so much worse.
::But it was like Brian was talking...
::And Doug freezes out.
::But then he comes back and he says, no, no,
::no.
::Don't stop.
::Don't stop.
::Keep going.
::And Brandon's like,
::you don't want me to stop?
::You don't want me to stop?
::That's fucking hilarious.
::Gentlemen, we are way off.
::I don't know what this is.
::It's Cowboys and Aliens from 2011.
::What?
::That profound dialogue came
::from Cowboys vs. Aliens.
::Daniel Craig, Harrison Ford, and...
::Olivia.
::Olivia Munn.
::No, no, that's not Olivia Munn.
::It's the other one.
::It's the other one that
::everybody confuses Olivia Munn with.
::Oh my gosh.
::We're never going to get her
::on the show now.
::She's screaming at us here.
::Go ahead.
::That's fine.
::It's not Olivia.
::It's not Olivia.
::Olivia Wilde.
::There it is.
::It's Olivia, but it's Olivia Wilde,
::not Olivia Wilde.
::By the way, on IMDb, when I type in Olivia,
::she comes up as third,
::and then Tron Legacy is her main movie,
::which is just so funny to me.
::She's in so many other things,
::and she's directed, but it's like, no, no,
::no, no, no.
::Tron Legacy, check this out.
::Let her know.
::Let her know what we think of her.
::Like...
::What we attach you to forever.
::Man.
::I'd love to talk to Olivia
::Wilde and be like,
::how do you feel about IMDb
::having the first movie
::you're known for as Tron Legacy?
::I want to talk to any real, any actor,
::person who acts actress.
::I want to see what they feel
::about IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes, like,
::unfiltered.
::Like, tell them nobody,
::this will never air.
::I just want to know what they think.
::Because, like, movies like Garfield,
::Garfield's Rotten Tomatoes
::score came out today at, like, 55%.
::Oh, did it really?
::Yeah.
::So I'm like, well, goddamn,
::that's not fantastic.
::But it seemed like they'd do that,
::and then it creeps back up for them.
::incredible remember rotten
::tomatoes much like adult
::life is corrupt and it's a
::racket like it's it's
::basically that the way it's
::a racket it's a racket it
::is a racket everybody's
::doing spice over there no
::don't trust a single review
::because basically what
::they're doing is they're
::sucking down sandworm juice
::and then being like I loved it and that's
::not helpful to anyone plot
::the dune so rotten tomatoes
::and dune have the same plot
::in life yes well and the
::funny part is imdb is all
::user run too so like I mean
::they can the the actors and
::actresses they can upload
::stuff but like all that
::information is user
::generated so like you could
::go to your page and be like
::I don't want to be known
::for drawn legacy please
::stop like I want to
::remember and remember
::rotten tomatoes is run
::exclusively by the benedict
::like that is just how it
::works over there they run
::all of that over there
::What's Amazon then?
::If they're the Bene Gesserit,
::are they the Harkonnens?
::The Harkonnens run IMDb then?
::I don't even know.
::You look at Jeff Bezos and
::tell me he's not a Harkonnen.
::He does have no hair.
::That man is listening to
::throat music while he's
::rolling in a pile of money.
::Wow, we just figured that out.
::We just figured out the
::monopoly in the world through Dune.
::Using Dune references?
::If you were confused, now you get it.
::You're welcome.
::And we did some throat singing.
::I mean,
::this episode's off to a great start.
::Guys, this episode has it all.
::Tell us, Villabean,
::is that what you call him?
::Roman, Patreon member, we are trying.
::I promise.
::We are trying to raise money
::for our next non-profit.
::Oh, that brings me to my rant.
::Oh, please.
::Oh, he's got the double clear.
::Diddy.
::Oh, God.
::What?
::Diddy.
::P. Diddy.
::Diddy.
::Or whatever your mama named you.
::Sean Combs, if you will.
::Sean Combs.
::You're a piece of shit.
::Indeed you are.
::And I am going to pull my
::third heat card as a
::stakeholder in the podcast and say,
::the next $100 that we get from the pot,
::we are going to match it,
::match the donation,
::and it's going to go to a
::domestic violence initiative.
::Because we don't tolerate that.
::piece of shit.
::You're an asshole and you
::are little dick energy.
::I don't give a fuck how rich you are.
::You are a bitch.
::You are the scum of the
::fucking earth to put your
::hands on a woman and to
::make your fake ass apology
::video about how you was in a dark space.
::Listen,
::ain't that much grace in the
::fucking world.
::You put that woman through
::hell and probably other
::people too and only
::apologize because you got caught.
::You are a piece of shit.
::And so that's that.
::That is a full-throated endorsement.
::I agree with you, Marcus.
::100%.
::I have no notes.
::You nailed it.
::that video was very when it
::was released by cnn one I'm
::a little shocked at cnn to
::be honest with you like
::that was rough like even
::for cnn like that was that
::was rough for them to like
::be like we got it like are
::you tmz or like trying to
::actually report the news I
::mean um well I fixed my mic
::should I say it again no no
::we heard you you're good yeah I mean yeah
::well maggie was the one that
::actually like showed it to
::me it was like one of those
::moments where she's like
::you you won't believe this
::you won't believe what I'm
::what I'm seeing right now
::and I was like oh like it
::can't like you know my head
::I was like cnn like they
::don't show a whole lot and
::then I was like nope that's
::a full video of terrible
::violence so I'm four
::fucking k you ass yeah
::Like, 4K.
::And you paid the hotel to
::get rid of the evidence.
::Like,
::you paid them $50,000 to get rid of it,
::and it still came back out.
::And, like, you are just... Like,
::I'm pray for Cassie.
::Like,
::I'm so glad that she found somebody
::else who was, like,
::willing to really love her.
::But, dog, you gotta go down.
::I also...
::I also want to take this
::moment where there's a lot of time,
::and I promise this is going to connect,
::but a lot of violence
::survivors and domestic violence survivors,
::when it comes to these
::folks who are in rich, powerful,
::privileged positions,
::you'll see a lot of
::headlines that they've settled.
::And a lot of people really like to say,
::well, they settled.
::If something was really wrong,
::the court would have found it.
::And it's like,
::you watch that video and
::this person having violence
::enacted on them,
::what do you think's going
::through their head?
::Like,
::do you think they're actually going
::to win against someone like Diddy,
::who at that point was
::pretty much a kingmaker?
::Or are you just going to
::just want to move on with
::your life after something
::like that happens to you?
::And that person's settled,
::if I remember that story correctly.
::So, like, this is why.
::Because people want to be
::done with this episode of
::their life and move on.
::So, my thoughts are with the survivor, too,
::because all this is coming
::back up and everybody's seeing it.
::Oh, yeah.
::And you put a...
::He put a fucking... Rumor has it,
::or allegedly, somebody tried to help her,
::or Kid Cudi tried to help her,
::and he put a fucking bomb in the car.
::And that's straight from Kid Cudi.
::What?
::That's part of the stories
::that are going around after
::he was raided of...
::It was said that I could be
::getting this story wrong,
::and I apologize if I am,
::but from my remembrance,
::Kid Cudi said that he tried
::to help Cassie to some
::capacity or tried to advocate for her,
::whatever the case may be,
::and Diddy essentially put a
::bomb in this motherfucker's
::car or tried to blow his car up.
::Oh my God.
::Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong,
::because I don't want to be
::spewing the wrong information,
::but this is all that's been coming out,
::stuff that has been coming out.
::He's a piece of shit.
::That's the bottom line.
::Yeah.
::Um, and so here's the other thing,
::like if you or someone, you know,
::is currently in a domestic
::violence situation,
::we're going to post the
::number for the national
::domestic violence hotline.
::So like you can get in touch
::with somebody to get help.
::You can also text them at eight, eight,
::seven, eight,
::eight right now if you need to.
::So I think we're going to
::post that resource in the
::show notes and the episode description.
::Um,
::Um,
::so you all have access to that because
::again, you know,
::we want everyone to get safe.
::And again,
::I prayers for Cassie and so
::thankful that she's at,
::but hopefully she's able to
::make it through having to
::relive this again.
::But, you know, if you know somebody,
::you know,
::you can help them by just
::calling or even if you're
::in that situation, call yourself.
::So, yeah.
::And I do I do want to I do
::want to back up Marcus here.
::I mean, this was November 2023,
::where there were there were
::two confirmations that that
::Kid Cudi's car did explode.
::And there are two eyewitness
::accounts saying that it happened.
::So like it.
::Oh, that's that's that's unreal.
::That's from complex dot com
::that I'm reading this.
::That is mafia.
::That's unreal.
::I didn't I did not know that.
::You're a nasty dog.
::But this is a movie podcast,
::and that does not digress
::from what the fuck I said previously,
::and that's Marcus J. Destin.
::I stand by everything I said.
::You put your hands on somebody,
::you deserve to get your ass
::dog fucking once.
::Yeah.
::But this is a movie podcast,
::and we're here to talk X-Men.
::So, sorry,
::I should have put a trigger
::warning ahead of that.
::I do apologize for those that needed that,
::but
::No,
::and I hope they throw his ass
::underneath the jail.
::That's where he needs to go.
::But,
::so we're going to pivot over back into
::X-Men and into the content
::that we're going to talk about today.
::Oh, I had one more thing.
::Please, Marcus.
::Brian and I were speaking.
::This is not as heavy.
::We were talking in pre-pro,
::and we didn't know if you knew this.
::Shut up.
::Me and Brian were talking.
::We love you too.
::I did want to say this.
::I'll tell you this.
::Brian knows this.
::Doug is such a good friend.
::You just have to say that
::out loud because you don't
::run into many good friends
::and good people anymore in the world.
::I did just want to say that
::on our podcast that Doug is
::just a really good friend.
::I hope that all what you put
::out there is super
::reciprocated because he is
::really just a good... He
::will get on your ass,
::But he is a really good friend.
::Brian is also a great friend.
::My long-distance bestie.
::You know what I mean?
::We be rocking.
::But I did just want to say that.
::Anyway, we were talking on the pod, right?
::In pre-pro.
::And we were talking about
::Scarlett Johansson and
::ChatGPT going into a battle
::because ChatGPT was going
::to just use... They had a
::meeting set up with her.
::Tried to get her to agree to
::use her voice for ChatGPT.
::to like kind of resemble the
::movie her like how she used
::her voice in that movie oh
::okay I don't like that and
::they essentially were gonna
::she said no and they were
::gonna do it anyway so she
::lawyer the fuck up
::Oh my god.
::So we saw that,
::maybe Brian said he saw it
::45 minutes ago when I asked him.
::I literally saw it 10
::minutes before I logged on.
::I just wanted to see, Doug,
::if you knew anything about this.
::Absolutely not.
::This is insane.
::This is the craziest thing
::I've ever heard in my life.
::Oh my gosh.
::I'm so excited to tell you about this.
::Tell me about it.
::Do you know about Sky,
::the chat GPT for voice assisted?
::No.
::no oh my gosh okay so all
::right I'm gonna close brian
::brian's about to tell me
::brian said you don't like
::with the level of
::excitement that someone had
::never heard about the movie
::kingpin before like you've
::never seen that let me tell
::you why it's hilarious okay
::So essentially,
::ChatGPT released this demo.
::It's called ChatGPT 4.0 Voice,
::essentially.
::It's the voice component for ChatGPT.
::And essentially,
::you can just have a conversation with it.
::Oh, fun.
::And they just released it last week.
::They've now suspended it.
::because it sounded like
::scarlett johansson now um
::but you can just have these
::conversations with chat gpt
::like hey I'm looking for
::movie times can you reserve
::tickets and all this stuff
::one of the examples they
::had was like hey chat gp or
::hey sky what's what room am
::I in what do you think I'm
::doing um like that that
::type of stuff right like
::already red flags going up
::I don't like that
::for anybody that has watched
::for anyone that has watched
::any sci-fi movie and I'm
::not even talking about like
::Blade Runner I'm like
::literally even Star Wars
::like it's just it's so
::clear it's a bad idea but
::there's a distinct level of
::the population
::let's say 13% that are going
::to try to do wholesome shit with this.
::For sure.
::The remaining 87%,
::the remaining ever 87% will
::eventually just do gross stuff with this.
::He's got zero faith in humanity.
::I said, I said,
::eventually they might start off with like,
::Oh, I can ask it movie times, but then,
::uh,
::so his girlfriend will step
::out for a night out like on
::a Thursday and he'll be
::like I wonder what else I
::could do with it Brian keep
::going please no so I'm so
::for our listeners if you're
::like okay like what is
::Scarlett Johansson so upset
::about like I don't get it
::so essentially like open AI contacted her
::legit contacted her and was
::like hey do you do you want
::to be the voice for this
::and she promptly said
::absolutely not um and so
::I'm gonna play what this
::sounds like so you can hear
::it listeners okay um I'm
::gonna make sure I'm sharing
::sound we're gonna find out
::if I'm doing that hey we'll figure it out
::Yeah,
::and essentially you can be the judge
::is what I'm trying to say here.
::You can be the judge.
::You can see if this sounds
::like Scarlett Johansson.
::So we'll play like 30 seconds of it.
::Look at this generic frat boy.
::Yeah, he's doing gross shit with it.
::How about you?
::I see you're rocking an open AI hoodie.
::Nice chilies.
::What's up with that ceiling about?
::Are you in a cool industry
::style office or something?
::Well,
::can you take a guess at what I might
::be doing based on what I'm
::showing you here?
::no no no no it looks like
::you're in some kind of
::recording or production
::setup with those lights
::tripods and possibly a mic
::it seems like you might be
::gearing up to shoot a video
::or I'll end it there I'll
::end it there doug looks so uncomfortable
::Immediately?
::Nope.
::Just noping out of it.
::What do you think I'm trying
::to do with what I'm showing
::you right now?
::She needs to have an immediate yuck.
::I don't want to tell you
::that sounds like your business.
::There needs to be a chief response.
::I'm so upset.
::Okay, stop.
::I'm very sad that Scarlett
::Johansson is clearly getting ripped off.
::Do you think that sounds like her?
::I think so.
::It does sound like her.
::It's the inflection in her voice.
::That's a good point.
::I see her rocking that OpenAI hoodie.
::Very nice.
::The way she says that is spot on.
::And so...
::Yeah, that's eerily close.
::I didn't see the video.
::It's close enough.
::I didn't see the video.
::And me hearing that for the first time,
::that's exactly how she talks in the movie,
::her.
::And I see exactly what they
::were trying to go.
::I mean, that's just Scarlett Johansson.
::You know what I mean?
::Yeah.
::Like, roll she's in.
::Hey, big guy.
::Sun's coming down low.
::Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
::You know?
::Yep.
::I mean,
::would I enjoy having a Scarlett
::Johansson-inspired voice assistant?
::Maybe, but it is... You're right,
::it does have that same
::cadence and tone of her voice,
::even if it doesn't have the
::same energy behind it.
::I don't know if any of that's making sense,
::but I think basically the
::New York Times article...
::calls out the fact that like,
::and this is from Scarlett
::Johansson's statement, but like open AI,
::like they shot themselves in the foot.
::They have paperwork asking her to do this.
::And then they make an
::assistant like her voice.
::And the best part is they
::reached out to her two days
::before this video came out being like,
::are you sure you don't want to?
::Are you sure?
::There's plenty enough here
::for a settlement.
::As Marcus and I were talking about,
::Scarlett Johansson,
::not someone I want to get
::in a legal fight with.
::She went toe-to-toe with Disney.
::Ten toes deep.
::Nope.
::I don't want to do that.
::If anybody's going to lawyer up,
::she's going to lawyer up.
::And they owe her a movie.
::That's the bottom line.
::Disney now owes her a fucking movie.
::She got money from Disney.
::You think anybody can do that?
::I'm not messing with Scarlett Johansson.
::We watched that motherfucker,
::that little Napoleon
::Dynamite motherfucker in
::Florida try to go toe-to-toe with Disney,
::and he fucking lost.
::He lost everything.
::Ron DeSanti, he lost every fucking thing.
::This is not Ron DeSanti.
::This is goddamn Scarlett Johansson.
::You're right.
::Ron DeSantis,
::he lost against Scarlett Johansson.
::He lost.
::Yeah.
::One.
::I don't know.
::I don't know.
::What does that say?
::I don't know.
::One.
::Seriously.
::Zero.
::And also,
::people are going to do gross
::stuff with that.
::They're going to do a lot of
::gross stuff with that.
::I mean, there was another piece.
::I can't remember if it was from the Times,
::but it was like,
::we need to find a way to
::embrace the adult content of AI.
::And I'm like, man,
::we are running so fast
::before we can even walk.
::Yeah.
::you you get an ai to a point
::where it's like not giving
::me hallucinations maybe we
::can talk about that there's
::gonna be some horrific
::stuff on the other end of
::it if you don't do the
::dishes like just straight
::out like I'm asking you to
::give me like 10 recipes for
::soup and then like I got a
::hallucination once and it
::was like anyway tigers
::And I'm like, I didn't ask about tigers.
::Thanks for giving me this
::information about it.
::Thanks.
::I appreciate it.
::Can you read me a bedtime story?
::Would you like to hear about my taint?
::No way.
::I don't want to hear about that at all.
::That's not what I asked about.
::I asked for a bedtime story for my son.
::I didn't ask for any details
::about your chat GPT grundle
::that you're trying to tell me about.
::I'm so nervous because we
::have a Google home and like
::all of the boys are in trouble.
::All the boys always ask me, like,
::show me pictures of Spider-Man.
::I'm always like, nope.
::I don't like that.
::And, like, I watch it, but, like,
::they're kids.
::I can't be there all the time.
::Like, how long until it's, like,
::fan art that is, like,
::questionable for a child, right?
::So, like, it's like,
::you can't use it without us.
::And my oldest, my oldest will, my second,
::when he figures it out, nope.
::No,
::he's probably going to see something if
::they keep doing this.
::Or we just mute it.
::I'm going to throw up.
::All this AI stuff,
::they're just not thinking about it.
::Once you get it,
::they do have safe settings.
::I do take that back.
::They do have safe settings.
::They probably won't.
::They probably won't.
::But still, you want to do that,
::but you can't even do the basics?
::Shelby pictures of Spider-Man.
::No!
::Brian from the other room.
::No!
::Get out of my way.
::I'm just bowling over the two-year-old.
::Brian, I gotta be honest with you.
::Your ass is gonna be begging
::for fucking tigers.
::You're gonna be begging for
::tigers after that.
::You're gonna be like,
::show me pictures of
::Spider-Man and you're gonna be like,
::please, please, please make that,
::please make that tiger's
::Just, okay, thank God it was Spider-Man.
::I also did not like the way
::Tate hit my ears.
::Yeah, no, that was super upset.
::Was the T too hard?
::It was the ChatGP Tate.
::Like, that's the part that I didn't... Oh,
::I see how well that works.
::Yeah, I didn't...
::Yeah, it's also very gross.
::Here we go.
::Let's talk about X-Men.
::Let's talk about mutants,
::because I would really sure like to.
::So we got through all the
::episodes of X-Men 97.
::We were very excited about
::that being a thing.
::And so we're going to talk about it.
::We're going to get into it.
::So again,
::this is another little spoiler warning.
::Does someone want to give like an overall,
::not of the whole series,
::not of an individual episode,
::but sort of like the main
::sort of through line of the
::series itself?
::All nine episodes, I believe it was.
::I can't unless Doug is the
::X-Men pro that reads up on everything.
::So, Doug, you can do it or I can do it.
::It's up to you.
::Sure.
::Yeah, I can.
::Let me let me give it a shot.
::And if I miss something,
::I'll let you know.
::So so what had happened was
::this series picks up
::exactly where we remember
::from back in the 90s.
::Wives off.
::Charles is sick, dying.
::So he goes off world.
::To try and their medical
::technology promises to fix him.
::And so he leaves the X-Men
::sort of in the care of Magneto.
::And so I'm skipping like I'm
::just kind of getting right to it because.
::What I liked, this is separate,
::so this is an aside.
::The first four episodes,
::when you compare it with the second four,
::feel slow.
::Like they feel so slow when
::you compare it.
::So I'm going to be speed
::through the first four.
::So what you keep doing was
::Charles sick or did he get shot?
::Because I think they say he was dying.
::I don't remember if it was
::sick or he got shot.
::Okay.
::yeah that was confusing at
::the start because everybody
::was like charles was shot
::and died and I was like no
::I saw this guy fly off in a
::spaceship I know I saw that
::yeah and so anyway so he
::leaves it in the care of
::magneto and so magneto is
::sort of charged with
::carrying on charles's
::legacy which is a challenge
::for him because up until
::this point he has been very loved
::humans need to be eradicated.
::We're the superior species.
::And so now he's being sort
::of tried to work with these folks.
::And so what ends up
::happening is a series of anti-mutant
::uh radicals storm the un
::building um led by the
::executioner and the
::executioner uses the same
::technology that they use to
::cure mutants but to
::basically shoot them and
::take away their powers and
::he manages to shoot takes a
::shot at magneto storm jumps
::in the way she loses her
::powers and then goes off to
::find you know forge and if
::there's a way that she can get them back
::Meanwhile, Matt,
::still carrying on this legacy.
::But now we're confronted with, you know,
::what's real and what isn't
::between Scott and Jean Grey.
::Because there's this other
::Jean Grey that's in here
::and we find out that she's
::actually a clone and their
::memories are intertwined.
::So when Scott and Jean give
::birth to their son, Steve, Stephen.
::No, that's not right.
::Nathan.
::Anyway, Nathan, there it is.
::I knew it was one of those N names.
::So when they give birth to Nathan,
::it turns out that he didn't
::give it birth with the real Jean Grey.
::What's Jean?
::What's the other one's name?
::Madeline Pryor.
::Madeline Pryor.
::So Madeline Pryor is the other.
::And so there's a whole thing there.
::But Mr. Sinister steals Nathan,
::infects him with a technological virus.
::Bishop takes him back into
::the future to have him fixed.
::And sort of that's where we leave that.
::So we're going to jump
::forward a little bit.
::Magneto is called back to Genosha,
::and he brings Rogue and
::Gambit and Beast and others
::with him on this mission.
::And then there was a giant...
::sentinel conglomeration that
::attacks Genosha and basically takes out,
::I think they said 40,000
::mutants was the final number, I believe.
::I think if I remember it correctly.
::Okay.
::And destroys Genosha and
::kills and injures thousands.
::In the process,
::Cable tries to come back to
::save his parents in this
::whole moment and save his
::mother in that moment.
::But he's realized he's
::reached sort of like a
::nexus moment that he can't
::ever get there before it happens.
::Yeah.
::which is interesting that they did that.
::And then as we start to get
::into the latter half of the show,
::it's really trying to
::uncover who is responsible
::for this particular piece.
::And we come to find that it is...
::Oh, I'm going to forget his name.
::I'm terrible with names.
::Bastion.
::Yeah,
::Bastion is the one who's responsible.
::And Bastion is a mutant who
::can intertwine himself with
::technology because his dad
::was taken over by Nimrod.
::And so when he was born...
::Bastion is essentially an
::extension of Nimrod.
::And so for those that don't know,
::Nimrod is a super advanced Sentinel.
::And so Bastion can
::intertwine himself with the
::Sentinels and sort of control them.
::So he was the one who was
::responsible for Genosha.
::And he has now created these
::human beings who are living,
::breathing Sentinels that
::used to be humans.
::And so the crisis is,
::what do we do in this
::moment with that information?
::All the while,
::After the human sentinels sort of attack,
::Charles manages to come
::back from his booty call in space.
::We had a whole episode in space.
::We had a whole episode.
::I'm skipping over those aside episodes,
::Charles in space,
::Jubilee inside the video game with Mojo.
::Those are other things that happened.
::Storms.
::Storms.
::Storm's cast.
::How Storm got her groove
::back is how I'll call it.
::Oh, I like that.
::I like it.
::And so... That's exactly what that was.
::And so the main through line
::is they have to stop him,
::but Magneto is on Asteroid M,
::and he manages to convince
::both Rogue and Sunspot to
::join him on Asteroid M to say...
::Charles enough is enough.
::Like what more do you want us to do here?
::You asked me, I love this line from,
::I think it was, uh,
::acceptance is extinction too, is they,
::he said,
::I've walked your path for long enough.
::Are you prepared to walk mine?
::Um, of this idea of like,
::you need to see this for what it is.
::This is them trying to exterminate us.
::And there's a future coming
::that we need to prevent.
::Um,
::Magneto Wolverine tries to kill Magneto.
::Magneto pulls all the
::adamantium out of his body.
::And Charles enters his mind
::in an effort to stop him
::and reverse the poles and
::restore power because
::Magneto sort of turns off all the power,
::shuts everybody down.
::And it sort of culminates
::with this gigantic showdown
::between Bastion and the X-Men.
::And now trying to while
::Charles and Magneto are injured.
::The X-Men need to rise the
::occasion to defeat Bastion
::and sort of get themselves
::back to a point.
::And so that is the gist.
::There is a ton that I skipped over.
::I tried to keep this really, really simple,
::but there was a ton that I skipped over.
::So, yeah.
::Gentlemen, anything really,
::really key that you all
::feel like I left out?
::I know it was a lot,
::but anything that was major
::plot points I left out?
::When...
::It's just when Magneto is captured,
::and it's just a very small piece,
::but it is a big piece.
::That's an important one.
::When they reveal Bastion,
::it turns out... So they use these words.
::I don't want to seem like
::I'm just using these words
::to minimize the impact of them, but...
::they use the words in the show,
::there was a genocide on Genosha.
::And all the mutants died.
::I guess before Gambit dies in that fight,
::he sacrifices himself to
::blow up one of the sentinels.
::But also,
::Magneto is protecting a bunch of
::people around him.
::I'm guessing at some point
::before he let it go and he
::tells the kid... I watched this again
::I watched the entire season
::all the way through this weekend.
::I'm good on my list.
::I'd love to do that.
::It was so good.
::Even better the second time.
::Good gumbo, man.
::I swear this show was really, really good.
::But anyway, sorry.
::Bastion somehow took Magneto
::before the rest of Genosha was destroyed.
::and held him hostage and so
::when he was held hostage
::the UN representative frees
::Magneto and then he goes
::and he basically says
::enough is enough and
::releases like these Magneto
::polar like these polar yeah
::he turns he reverses all
::the magnetic poles on earth
::yeah and turned off
::everything and that's why
::Professor X is trying to
::hop in his head because
::he's like killed a bunch of
::people essentially in
::addition to he did that to
::shut down the Bionic the Bionic
::biological sentinels,
::they're human sentinels
::that are like mixed sleeper cells.
::Yes.
::Sentinel Prime.
::I just got it.
::Yeah, that's it.
::Gambit's death, if we want to call it that,
::was definitely something I
::wanted to bring up.
::Also,
::madeline prior dying yep
::which right maybe right
::it's x it's x-men so
::anything's possible it's
::marvel it's comics um but I
::did I was shocked I i was
::shocked that madeline prior
::and sebastian uh shaw also
::died um so sebastian shaw
::the hellfire club at
::genosha madeline prior I am
::I am shocked those two deaths um
::We're not undone by the end of the season.
::I should check that by the
::end of the season.
::That's wild.
::Yeah.
::So I want to start with this.
::So I know, I mean,
::this is going to be... So I
::want to give this show its flowers,
::and I want to give it a
::chance to talk through how good it is.
::Let's do it.
::But the three of us will
::unanimously tell you that
::this is up there.
::This show is something different than...
::your run of the mill,
::like animation type of show.
::I mean, I would,
::I would rank it among the best.
::I would compare this and the
::last of us and put it in
::the same echelon of
::streaming TV that we have
::gotten so far this year.
::Um, but I was curious, you know, again,
::Brian Marcus,
::want to curious about your
::thoughts on where do you
::put it in terms of like how
::it ranks and where it falls
::and just thoughts in
::general on just the quality
::that this show had overall.
::What would you have me categorize this in?
::All-time TV?
::Animation only?
::Or you just want to know where?
::Where you put it.
::Wherever you want to put it, put it there.
::I think in the past, since COVID,
::there has not been a lot of
::TV that has really kept me...
::attached and like week to
::week where I felt like I
::could not miss it like this
::like it hit the it's more
::than just the nostalgia for
::me that has this so high up
::it's the writing it's the
::animation it's the
::character development it's
::the it's the reality of it
::all like how real it feels
::so for me this is it's top
::five for me in TV yeah top
::five completely agree yeah
::completely agree
::I would have to think of where,
::I don't know what I'm categorized.
::Like, Daredevil, that's, like,
::really good TV.
::Not to make all my shit
::sound like I'm just, like,
::comic book shit, but, like, all time.
::I mean...
::I mean, Daredevil's up there, though.
::I mean, like, I put, like,
::Daredevil season,
::I would say even season three is probably,
::I feel like,
::the best season up there with, like,
::Breaking Bad season three.
::It was a great, great.
::And I consider Breaking Bad
::probably the best
::live-action drama of all time.
::I mean,
::I'm even thinking about Community
::Season 2.
::Community Season 2 is perfect.
::Community Season 2... And
::the reason I'm making these
::comparisons is it's the consistent...
::quality it is just a
::consistent quality where
::it's like there's no
::there's no episode where
::you feel like it drops off
::now you can skip this like
::it all feels yeah essential
::viewing and like like
::Arrested Development season
::two comes to mind
::um westworld season one like
::this is this is enter it is
::no doubt in the pantheon to
::me because x-men 97 does
::this thing where it
::streamlines so many clunky
::stories that you could get
::caught up in right because
::there's been 20 years now
::25 plus years now of x-men
::comics since 1997 right
::that you could have done a
::whole lot with that you could have read
::Who did?
::You could have done.
::Good point, Brian.
::A lot.
::We've had three franchise... No.
::We've had two.
::It all gets mixed up.
::We've had a lot of extra movies.
::Brian, it's three.
::It's the original, like,
::Bryan Singer ones.
::It's... Right after that,
::it was... The Vaughn ones, right?
::Yep.
::The Vaughn ones.
::And then... And then Bryan Singer again.
::And then Bryan Singer again.
::But, like, it depends where you put it.
::But, like, yeah.
::I mean, it's three distinct...
::franchisee type things.
::X-Men Origins.
::Plus the One-Off.
::Technically Deadpool is an
::X-Men franchise on itself.
::So like...
::They could have drawn from so much.
::And I think the amount of
::restraint is admirable here
::to tell such a good story.
::And which is why I put it
::with the other shows that I
::mentioned where they are not,
::they're not giving you a side quest.
::Like everything does this.
::for a reason,
::even the Jubilee video game
::mini so is what I'll call
::it like you can say, Oh,
::that's kind of a bottle episode.
::But I would push back on it
::because Jubilee gets her
::moment to shine and gets to
::see who she can become,
::which directly leads in to
::episode 10 of season one,
::like that payoff works for
::six episodes later.
::When she's fighting Bastion.
::And he's like what are you doing here.
::And we're like no we know
::Jubilee can do this.
::Because we've seen it.
::Well and the other thing I
::really like about that.
::Is Brian you're right.
::It could feel like a bottle episode.
::But it also advances.
::Like a major character arc.
::Between her and Sunspot.
::And their relationship.
::Like that moment for both of them.
::Of getting through it.
::Is very very important to their story.
::As a couple.
::In the whole series itself.
::So I think.
::I mean,
::because when they sort of have
::their like schism and he
::makes the choice to go with Magneto,
::like they've been through it.
::So when she's like, what the fuck, dude?
::Like, yeah, if that's that,
::you feel that a little bit
::more because you know what
::you've been through.
::Brian, to your point on May 29th.
::So next week we will
::celebrate the 50th
::anniversary of Wolverine as
::a character in comic books.
::And so, Brian,
::to your point of what we
::could pull from for this, I mean,
::it's endless.
::It's endless what you could
::have pulled from in terms
::of story storylines.
::And when you say that
::Wolverine was his own franchise, right?
::Like four franchises from
::X-Men that you could have pulled from.
::And they didn't even do a
::Wolverine episode.
::And I would have been fine
::with a Wolverine episode.
::I feel like that's the tax, right?
::Sometimes with X-Men stuff, I'm like,
::all right,
::you want to watch Morph do something?
::Well,
::you got to watch 20 Minutes of
::Wolverine climbing up a mountain.
::That's what it feels like sometimes.
::You have to watch Wolverine
::yell at Omega Red for 15 minutes.
::Yes.
::100%.
::I'm pretty sure that happened.
::I'm almost positive.
::And it didn't do that.
::That just shows me the
::adeptness and the mastery
::of I'm just going to say it,
::Bo DeMaio and his writing team.
::And
::We'll talk about it later,
::about what his future looks like,
::but himself and his writing team,
::they nailed it with that
::restraint and focusing on
::what was important rather
::than getting sidetracked.
::Yeah.
::Bo, have you tried apologizing?
::Like, have you just tried saying, like,
::I'm sorry?
::Like, because I don't know... Dude,
::I don't know what you did, but...
::but holy shit.
::Like if they were like,
::cause this show is really, really good.
::And they were like, Hey,
::before your show even comes out,
::you're out of here.
::And you just went, I,
::I have a lot of questions.
::So he's so he's still
::supposed to be helping with
::season two and he'll be overlooking.
::He tweeted this and tweeted
::the article on it through
::his Twitter because he's
::been heavily communicating
::with a lot of people through Twitter.
::He talks to every episode.
::He like tells people what
::homework to watch.
::You can tell he is a fan, fan,
::fan of X-Men.
::Right.
::Sliding into his DMs to see
::if he'll come on the show.
::Who, us?
::Yeah,
::have we tried asking Bo if he'll come
::on the show?
::Let's find out what he did
::first before we just start
::sending invitations.
::You know what?
::Thanks for being the responsible one.
::Hey, surprise, surprise.
::Shocker to everybody.
::You know what?
::That tells me that you may
::have learned a lesson about
::internet safety, and I appreciate that.
::I'm going to let him have it.
::So, Bo DeMaio, if you're listening.
::I'm going to let him have it.
::The listeners don't even
::know what that challenge was about.
::They have no idea what that is.
::And I'll never tell them.
::But Bo,
::he had tweeted that he will still
::have some oversight,
::but it's not as involved as
::it was in season one.
::So he specifically was like,
::I'm not going to be picking
::the music and picking the blah, blah,
::blah, blah,
::blah and doing everything as hands-on,
::but he still will be a part
::of the process to some capacity.
::That's very paraphrasing of
::what the article said.
::Yeah.
::yeah I yeah it was it was I
::recognize thanks you're
::right you're right that's
::my dog yeah yeah uh I don't
::know I don't know what I
::don't know what he did I
::everybody wants I know but
::here we are the nda is
::locked tight so here's my
::thing yeah um unless was
::anybody else about to say something
::I love that movie, by the way.
::I love Go Go Gadget.
::Here are the things that stood out to me.
::One,
::Redemption for the characters, right?
::And so like from an
::audience's nitpicky perspective,
::I think for characters like Jubilee,
::you get those episodes
::where you can see her full
::potential because I think
::the running joke for
::anybody who's not a fan, fan,
::fan and only sees Jubilee
::in like what we used to see her in,
::she's a teenager who can
::make firecrackers, fireworks, right?
::But then you get this, you kind of get it
::It's a little bit
::differently when she's
::going up against Bastion.
::And then I saw somebody say, well,
::I don't think people
::understand in the comic
::book she's making things
::catch fire at a subatomic level.
::So it's like, oh,
::it's more than just fireworks.
::So like with that kind of knowledge,
::we get such good redemption arcs.
::I know there's been a lot of
::back and forth between how
::Storm was kind of handled
::in this season and, you know, Bo.
::Yeah.
::has been tweeting about like, hey,
::Black pride or being
::pro-Black does not mean
::always having to resort to
::like some type of violence
::or something with the
::characters that they're depicting.
::And I see, I see,
::I'm not sure what people
::were looking for from Storm
::because all of my Storm moments in this,
::I thought were executed.
::Yes,
::I thought they were executed very well.
::I'm not sure what some
::people were looking for from Storm.
::I know what they were
::looking for from Bishop,
::because he kind of went on vacation.
::He took Nathan to the future and was like,
::well, I've done my job.
::He just stayed there.
::So the Black characters, and in Sunspot,
::there's back and forth with
::Sunspot and the color of his skin,
::how he's supposed to be of
::darker skin tone,
::and Afro-Latino was
::originally a Black character.
::So I'm seeing a lot of that discourse,
::but I don't want to talk about that.
::Right now.
::I mean, I, I,
::and I think that that also
::kind of gets into how this show,
::I feel like handled so many
::expectations because I
::think some of that stuff
::was going to happen.
::I'm referring to the storm
::stuff because like,
::the thing with X-Men is that
::it built out such a huge
::roster of characters.
::Like when you talk to somebody about X-Men,
::they're like, Oh, I love blank.
::Like when Maggie and I met
::at college and I found out
::that she watched the nineties X-Men,
::like this was even before we were dating.
::Like it was one of the first
::things we bonded over.
::And she's like, Oh my gosh,
::I love Jean gray.
::And I'm like, you like Jean gray.
::And like, we had this whole conversation.
::Cause I, I, I like Cyclops and she's like,
::you like Cyclops.
::Oh,
::oh that's cute what the hell
::you guys are so fucking
::cute that's so perfect for
::each other well and it's
::it's why I also brought it
::up in earlier episodes
::because like I would say
::like cyclops people like
::he's such a boy scout he's
::so boring and I'm like
::and then we got, you know,
::his optic blasts.
::But, like,
::everybody has a favorite character,
::right?
::They have a character they
::just want to see pop out, right?
::And so I felt like there was
::going to be that to some
::degree in this show of, like, well,
::I didn't get a whole lot of Nightcrawler,
::you know?
::Like, that's what I was waiting for.
::I do understand there's a
::bit of a nuance with Storm.
::However, I feel like, to me, I...
::I was very satisfied with her arc.
::She fought a giant owl demon.
::That was bad as hell.
::I saw her make a glass tornado.
::She has so many banging moments.
::There's three, I'm going to say,
::splash page moments I can think of.
::And I think she's just a
::really strong character.
::She could...
::I feel like she could have her own show.
::That's not the direction
::they're going to go.
::But yeah, I get that.
::But that's one of the
::troubles with an ensemble
::piece like this.
::Everybody's going to want a
::piece of the pie.
::And I feel like X-Men 97
::really like... They were like, no,
::this is going to be Magneto season.
::Sorry, everybody.
::If you came for Wolverine,
::you get Magneto.
::That's what I feel like happened,
::which I feel like was a
::great way to tell this story.
::I mean...
::That went to my second point,
::which was like,
::you can tell which
::characters that the head
::writers liked or loved.
::Oh, yeah.
::This person loved Magneto.
::Whether it's Bo...
::Whether it's Bo or whoever
::is in that writing room,
::they love that Magneto storyline.
::And they were very
::meticulous about how they wrote and drew.
::You don't just draw a sexy Magneto,
::you know what I mean?
::You don't have to do that.
::But they were obviously
::trying to make some kind of a point.
::And you can tell.
::That that that is one of the
::moments I knew this show
::was was growing up was like, oh,
::you would not see Magneto
::in a black speedo in the 90s.
::No, no, no.
::You wouldn't see that.
::Like they very much took a
::lot of love and care with him.
::Well, and I think to that point,
::it's I think the other
::thing that I really
::appreciated about this is.
::They always sort of tried to paint,
::at least I feel like this
::way in the 90s when you go
::back and watch that,
::is that it almost feels,
::and I'm not trying to take
::it down a notch, it's just an observation,
::it feels a little disjointed as a team.
::They feel disjointed as a
::team because we never get a
::chance to explore their relationships.
::If you look at
::one of the very early episodes,
::I think it's night of the Sentinels.
::Number two, like the second part, part two,
::where Wolverine just cuts the roof off of,
::of, of, of Scott's like Jeep.
::And he goes, yeah, now he's got a sunroof.
::And like, that's all like,
::they never say why it happened.
::They never talk about it.
::It's just, he's kind of curmudgeon.
::And what I think where this show is,
::separated itself and made
::itself something unique is
::it said no like these this
::is a there are fucking
::complicated relationships
::here that we need to be
::aware of and we need to tap
::into that really really drive home
::And speak to the way in
::which all of these
::characters interact and
::relate to one another.
::And it's as simple as when
::you see Nightcrawler for the first time,
::how excited he gets to see
::Rogue and Gambit.
::Those are not just...
::friends of his those are
::family members and he is
::like he is like the only
::equivalent I can say is he
::is an 11 year old when you
::tell them his cousins are
::coming over like he is
::jacked as shit to like see
::them for the first time
::like that's all he is I
::knew exactly that's right
::And so I appreciated that
::the complexity of rogue of
::putting her in this
::position of Remy has always been there.
::Gambit has always been there,
::has loved and supported her, has said,
::I don't care about the consequences.
::I just want to be with you.
::Coupled with someone like
::Magneto who can give her
::what she's looking for,
::which is that sense of
::physical touch without the
::risk of doing anyone that
::she cares about harm.
::Right.
::And the dichotomy of what
::that does to that relationship overall.
::This is such an interesting
::way in which it plays out.
::And they just handled it so masterfully.
::And it culminates in that
::acceptance is extinction
::where Charles is inside
::Magneto's mind being like,
::you don't need to do this.
::yes,
::you are in a water of terrible things
::that have happened,
::but you got to swim through
::the water to get to the
::people you care about.
::We are shaped by our most
::trying moments into who we
::are and who we surround ourselves with.
::It was just so well done.
::And that's one of the things
::I really appreciated about
::the show overall is, yeah,
::it's about a dude that can
::shoot lasers out of his eyes.
::and you know a man who has
::like can control robots but
::there's so much more at the
::like if you dig down deep
::that like speaks to me as
::an adult and why I enjoyed
::it so much oh man yeah
::you're right like as a 37
::year old dude I've been
::around the block a little
::bit more than when I was
::eight and I watched this
::for the first time right
::right like it's more than a
::saturday morning
::cartoon right like we're
::talking about it's dropping
::on a wednesday people got
::full-time jobs this show
::was specifically made for a
::certain audience yes you're
::absolutely right you're not
::wrong you know what I mean
::so it's it's that's the
::thing that stood out to me
::and the complexities of
::magneto who's already gone
::through one he's already
::gone through the holocaust
::he he survived that like he
::is a holocaust survivor yes
::He already witnessed one genocide.
::And then you have this character who,
::which I never,
::you know that when they
::hint at it very lightly in
::the movies and Bryan Singer and it's like,
::oh, okay, yeah, for sure.
::And there's like every once in a while,
::there's a line of like,
::a needle will never touch my skin again.
::Like that's a fire line, right?
::You know what I mean?
::Right.
::But it's hard to remember that.
::But in this show,
::they constantly remind you
::that Magneto is not just
::mad because he's a mutant
::and he's just mad.
::This motherfucker has
::witnessed two genocides and
::all for just being who he is.
::He has a reason to be mad.
::I was born this way and
::somebody doesn't like me
::just off the strength of
::they have the money, resources, finances,
::power, etc., etc., etc.,
::to oppress me to um hold me
::back to hold me down to use
::whatever tools they got to
::go against my entire
::lineage the thing that
::makes me who I am I didn't
::do that just once I've done
::this shit twice they're
::trying to deny me the
::future that they're trying
::to protect for themselves
::right like and that's and
::that's the thing that I
::think is so powerful and
::I'm so glad that you
::brought that up marcus is that
::They could have ignored that.
::Bo DeMeo could have said,
::you know what I'm not going to touch?
::I'm not going to touch God
::loves man kills.
::I'm not going to touch that at all.
::But he was like, nope, not in 2024.
::I can't not touch it.
::But what he did is he did it, and Brian,
::you said this earlier,
::they took so many pieces of
::of different storylines and
::arcs and things like that
::that have happened and they
::just jumped like they just
::jumped right in and they
::put them together in a way
::in which that was cohesive
::and worked and I mean it
::like the parts where they
::went on this like acceptance and
::Tolerance,
::the idea of tolerance and the idea of,
::you know,
::someone willing to fight to
::protect what they have and
::that like they handled that
::so goddamn well that it was
::just it was really well
::done and not in a way in which.
::and this is going to sound weird,
::if anyone has a thought, I recognize it,
::but not in a way in which
::it was so preachy that
::someone would have gone like, it's woke,
::get it out of here.
::Like they did it in a way in
::which that fits so masterfully, I think,
::into the story.
::And I think the best example of that
::is Rogue and you see Rogue
::basically in the beginning
::of the show she's like hey
::Magneto like we were lovers
::but like you gotta earn you
::have to earn your spot here
::like I love you but you
::need to earn your spot as
::an X-Man and like
::I thought that was
::incredible and everything
::with the UN and.
::Oh yeah.
::Oh, that all went down.
::And then you get to Genosha,
::which like you,
::that I would say that's a rogue episode.
::If I had to like,
::that is probably the rogue episode.
::And she sees and feels that
::like Magneto was right.
::Like they're going to come
::for us no matter what,
::no matter what we do.
::And you like, you see her.
::You see her becoming
::grizzled in real time.
::And I think that is so hard
::to do without overdoing it.
::I think it's so hard to do
::in an animated format.
::And I think it's so hard to
::do because these are like
::maybe 40 minutes.
::These are not 42 minute, one hour,
::like HBO dramas, right?
::Like we have to pack all
::this in and like 35 minutes.
::And we have to get Magneto off the board.
::Like you see Rogue and it makes sense.
::You're not mad at her.
::You're not mad at her the
::next episode when she makes
::Captain America look like a fool.
::And I'm a huge Cap fan.
::I'm like, no, that needed to happen.
::Rogue showed the world how
::much the Avengers suck on this.
::And I'm happy about it.
::And then they went back to it.
::Brian,
::what I love about that is they went
::back to it.
::Because while every other
::fucking hero is out there
::fighting and trying to defend themselves.
::Where the fuck are the Avengers?
::They're in the White House
::making sure the President's okay.
::They're making sure they're
::going to nuke the asteroid.
::All of them.
::All of them.
::Even Black Panther.
::You know what I mean?
::What did you just say?
::I called them douche tips
::because that's the worst
::part because that's the
::part that goes inside.
::Oh, golly.
::Wow.
::I have nothing to say to that.
::No, thank you.
::Brian's audible eject.
::All right.
::Well, I'll see y'all later.
::Well, that'll do it for me, everybody.
::I'm going to go ahead and
::hit that end stream button.
::Anyway, step one, read a book.
::Are you kidding me?
::I got so much.
::Are you kidding me?
::You know me.
::I ain't tough.
::I'm resilient.
::I always make myself sound so persecuted.
::I love the fact that they're
::in the Situation Room and
::Black Panther and Cap are like,
::I'm a little uncomfortable about this.
::Iron Man's just like, whatever.
::I'm here.
::Send my nukes up.
::Let's do this.
::You bought them for me.
::Go ahead.
::They got Stark Enterprises
::right on the side of them motherfuckers.
::I mean,
::they're arc reactor powered probably.
::He doesn't care.
::He's going to buy more.
::Like,
::any like rogue showed that I
::feel like in such an
::effective way and not
::because she threw his
::shield but like cap just
::trying to be like we gotta
::do this by the book and
::you're like you're telling
::this to a woman who just
::lost the love of her life
::and who's clearly on a
::rampage by the way like
::you're standing toe-to-toe
::with rogue and she just
::took out the hulkbuster unit like
::nah man like you're off and
::I loved how much they
::showed that and I
::absolutely believe that is
::how 1997 Captain America
::would act and that is one
::of the enjoyable parts of
::this so I just I feel like
::Rogue really brings that
::point home about how these
::characters change and how
::intricate those
::relationships are and how
::well that show showed it
::Okay, I agree.
::I want to keep going because
::there's some shit in here
::that I really want to get off my chest.
::Number one, Theo James.
::I'm going to tell y'all now,
::this motherfucking show is
::going to win an award for something.
::I agree.
::It should win a couple.
::My preference would be
::either animation or
::dialogue or whatever it is
::that you put in the script
::because the shit that they were saying...
::the the monologues that
::these motherfuckers when
::they introduce bastion and
::it's fucking theo james
::voice and I watched the
::shit three times I like I'm
::not bullshitting you I
::watched it three times that
::same night and I kept
::rewinding it because he he
::reveals himself and said oh
::well the x-men they've been
::had a little secret they
::said that they homeboy got
::shot but he's really on
::another planet I'm about to
::expose him so like you know
::I mean it's gonna be even
::playing but I got a secret of my own
::I've got a Magneto in the tub.
::Okay.
::And he's telling Magneto, listen,
::all you got to do
::essentially is just shut
::the fuck up and listen.
::You are so good at playing
::your role and doing what
::you're told to do.
::Like that's exactly what you
::were made for.
::Now smile for the candy camera.
::I'm going to make this shit.
::You are talking about the
::most powerful motherfucker
::in the world is just not moving,
::being held hostage by Bastion.
::That's not the only monologue that, I mean,
::Gambit, Mon Ami,
::my name is Gambit Mon Ami, remember it.
::Nobody has ever...
::that's a callback to the
::older show but it hits
::significantly different in
::the context of which they
::set it up and I think oh
::yeah that's the beauty of
::the show is like it's not
::just we're not just turning
::this like now here's what I
::say I did try to re-watch
::x-men the originals like a
::long time ago it's a lot of
::filler episodes in that
::motherfucker or at least
::feels like filler they told
::every possible offshoot
::they went yes well I know
::we just did one where they
::battle sentinels
::I don't know.
::What if they just went to the Savage Land?
::And they were like, why?
::I don't know, because why not?
::There's an episode where Wolverine,
::I believe, goes to church.
::And Jubilee's like,
::why don't you go to church?
::And he's like, kid,
::I don't got time for church.
::That's not what I do.
::I got claws.
::What does claws have to do with church?
::I got claws.
::Look, bub.
::I would say season one
::through three of the
::original series does it the least,
::but then seasons four and
::five are just like, y'all, it's bonkers.
::I love X-Men.
::Remember when Spider-Man
::randomly shows up?
::It's bonkers.
::That was appointment television.
::I looked at a TV guide.
::I made sure I wasn't missing
::that for anything.
::Hey, Google,
::show me pictures of Spider-Man.
::it's a matter of time
::without safe search I'm
::just saying but yeah like
::there was no filler no none
::they cut the fat and so I
::just want to say Theo James
::expect your award you need something I
::cast him for something else
::like voice acting because I
::don't know why I ain't
::heard him voice act before
::but that motherfucker got
::voice made of butter and
::that's all I know I mean he
::pops up in a lot of stuff
::he was in the White Lotus
::he was in the Divergent
::franchise he was also in
::the Gentleman series on Netflix
::Yup, and he did voice work for The Witcher,
::Nightmare of the Wolf.
::We can give you the Films in
::Black and White Tip of the
::Hat Award for great voice acting.
::Yes, congratulations.
::I'm happy to lock that in.
::I invented it up right now.
::B.O.
::James,
::congratulations on winning the Tip
::of the Hat Award.
::I solemnly swear I won't
::talk about anything gross if you don't.
::I'm going to be honest.
::It doesn't sound great the
::way y'all keep saying tip, but like, yeah,
::for sure.
::Like the emphasis on that.
::Right.
::Anyway, I also love this.
::I also loved my favorite
::part about this entire series,
::especially the episode.
::Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
::You see, I appreciate it.
::So that's not a lot of hate.
::Not a lot of hate,
::just the tip of the hate.
::Just the tip of the hate.
::Just the tip of the hate award.
::Not full hate, but just the tip.
::Look,
::that's what happens when I'm typing fast,
::okay?
::This is what happens.
::Tip of the hate.
::Carry on, Marcus.
::Just the tip, just a little bit of it.
::I like the fact that mutants,
::we get to see people with powers,
::mutants,
::Doing regular,
::I want to make sure I'm
::saying the right shit, regular life shit,
::because I don't want to say normal,
::right?
::Because then that says that
::they're not normal.
::But just doing regular life shit.
::For example, when they're on Genosha,
::they have a scene where
::they're talking about the
::apples and nightcrawls, talking about, oh,
::yeah, it's like, oh,
::they're kind of taxing for the apples,
::but they say, hey,
::that comes with it because
::this is what comes with it.
::There's kids that are using
::their powers and they're breakdancing.
::Like, yes, they're dancing, breakdancing,
::they're singing.
::Even Professor X,
::when he has his vision of
::everything that happened on Genosha,
::he says, oh,
::they were he said they were dancing,
::drinking,
::making love like this is regular
::life shit that we get to
::see like mutants do.
::And I feel like that is such
::an essential piece to Genosha.
::humanizing quote unquote
::like what we're looking at
::because to see them just
::enjoying themselves before
::the genocide actually
::happened says oh that could
::have been me like if you
::are empathetic that's a
::great point that's a great
::yes and so that's why that
::episode made me cry because
::I'm like I'm in tears
::watching this fucking
::happening because I'm like
::I guess it's as a black man, obviously,
::I don't even want to say
::that because of where we live in.
::I will say this with a grain of salt.
::Say it.
::We support you, man.
::No, no.
::It's more like I don't ever
::want to go to the extremes, right?
::This is animation.
::This is TV.
::But everything has a little
::bit of reality to it.
::The only thing I could do
::was put myself into the
::shoes of if somebody was to
::draw us to a place.
::Right.
::And say all black people,
::we're going back to Africa.
::OK, we're going back to Africa.
::We don't like the way we're being treated.
::We don't go back to Africa.
::And then something was to
::happen where they got us
::all in the same place or a large.
::percentage of us in the same
::place where they could
::execute something like this
::just off the strength of being black.
::We got them exactly where we want them.
::And this is the perfect time to strike.
::It's hard to think out loud
::that somebody wouldn't have that thought,
::right?
::I totally agree.
::That's not an option in
::people's minds to be like,
::I wish that we could do that too.
::Insert whatever.
::Not just black people.
::Insert whoever they just
::deem is not worthy.
::It's not hard for my brain
::to draw similarities
::between Genosha and Tulsa, Oklahoma.
::Right.
::Black Wall Street.
::Not hard.
::No,
::and I was thinking about Pulse Nightclub,
::too.
::Yes, yes.
::I mean, they're dancing.
::Like, they're not even, like,
::Magneto's not even having
::Asteroid M hover over anything.
::They're literally just having a good time,
::and then... They're having
::the Hellfire Gallop.
::That's it.
::Right.
::I think Bo mentioned that
::that was the reference in that episode.
::He did.
::Wow.
::Okay, well, he nailed it.
::Yes, that was a great call-out, Brian.
::But again, absolutely right.
::This is the life that we see around us,
::and you cannot tell me that
::these smaller versions of
::nobody's going to put us...
::We don't have the capacity
::to put us all on a fucking island,
::but if we're all in a
::fucking nightclub or
::something like that and
::somebody decides they want
::to shoot it up or harm
::everybody in there or blow
::up the building, like...
::I think that's why Charles'
::words of they were dancing,
::they were living, they were making love,
::they were being themselves.
::I think that that's why it's
::so powerful because if you
::draw the similarity,
::it's wherever someone is
::truly being themselves and
::something like this happens.
::The most vulnerable.
::That's why it's so awful.
::Like it's awful on its face.
::Right.
::Like, and that's,
::I think where the reporter tries to play,
::I think that's where beast
::gets really frustrated with the reporter.
::Like in that episode where
::they're walking through is
::the reporter tries to say like,
::Yeah, this is really tough.
::Look at all this death.
::And Beast is like, you don't get it.
::This isn't just people died.
::They were not bothering anyone.
::We were just being ourselves
::in a place where we didn't
::have to worry about being tolerated.
::Right.
::it was still taken away from us.
::Like, and so I think that that,
::those moments are, I think really,
::really important to sort of
::like focus on.
::So I, I, Brian Marcus,
::I appreciate the fact that
::you don't want to like take
::it to the extreme, but again,
::that has always been.
::And it's kind of like what I
::was trying to get to earlier.
::Like that's always been an
::element of X-Men.
::Like that's always been an element of,
::you know, these are, they are,
::they are written this way for a reason.
::Yeah.
::Well, and I think, yeah, like Marcus,
::I definitely want you to
::feel like you can say that.
::Cause I think,
::I think that metaphor is apt
::and I feel like watching
::and talking about this show
::and how it's progressed to like, I mean,
::see a lot of where I got
::some of my politics even at
::eight or nine years old
::like I knew from watching
::this uh in the 90s like
::something was off like
::right like oh like I'm
::seeing the concepts as
::they're played out here and
::then I go into the real
::world and it's eerily
::similar huh how about that
::and to now grow up with it
::and then be at this age of
::a 30 something year old man
::and then just see it and have that,
::have that type of emotional
::impact of like some stuff
::has really changed,
::but other stuff really has like,
::and I don't know,
::it was just kind of this loss of,
::it just kind of felt that
::Genosha episode and what
::you're talking about, Marcus,
::it just kind of felt like it was,
::the show was acknowledging
::the audience of like, we get it.
::You've seen stuff and this
::show is going to try to grapple with it.
::That's,
::that's what it felt like for me.
::So like,
::even though it was terrible and I
::teared up during remember it,
::it was just kind of this like, yeah,
::like we're grown up now,
::like this stuff happens and
::how we react to it matters,
::which is why I think the
::back half of this season
::really connected with me on
::a lot of levels,
::whether it's rogue going on a rampage,
::Or Jean being like, no,
::I'm going to tap into the
::Phoenix Forest to save my
::son because I can't have
::another bad thing happen to me, right?
::Relatable energy.
::I can relate to that in my age now.
::Yeah.
::I want to be cognizant of where we're at.
::Are there other points that
::you all want to make before I pivot to my,
::you know,
::towards the end of the... Before
::we start bringing it home?
::Yeah.
::I have one more question in the chamber,
::but I want to be respectful
::if you had anything else.
::I don't even know where you start,
::to be honest.
::It's...
::Let me look.
::I have a whole thing.
::Go ahead, Marcus.
::Just while you look it up,
::I appreciate not always pairing.
::Thank you for giving me
::enough of everybody.
::It wasn't too much Nightcrawler.
::There was just enough.
::But also,
::thank you for the pairing of
::Nightcrawler and Wolverine
::and things I never thought I would see.
::Or Wolverine falling from
::the sky and doing this
::adamantium tornado spin
::with the fucking claws and like...
::Kurt not just teleporting
::all over the place, but he has a sword.
::That's an essential part to who he is.
::And non-cliche women-led characters.
::As far as I could tell,
::they all had some depth.
::The show is about love,
::so maybe the Bechdel test
::doesn't really pass here.
::But
::No, it does.
::Does it?
::Oh, okay.
::It's first episode.
::Storm and Jean, I'm pretty sure.
::No, it's the second episode.
::I take it back.
::It's the second episode for sure.
::I think it happens in the first episode,
::but I don't have the
::evidence at the moment.
::But Storm and Jean have a moment.
::Where they're just only
::talking to each other, not about a man.
::I love that because I've
::never thought about Storm
::and Jean being sisters.
::Like best friends.
::Yeah, never in my life.
::But yeah, of course,
::that makes a lot of sense.
::So I just enjoy the pairing
::of complex characters in
::different lights.
::that that that mind the
::weather weather your mind
::exchange was fucking
::brilliant I thought it was
::good I thought that was so
::good brilliant I mean that
::episode nine it like it it
::caught it checked all of my
::like let's go boxes we got
::a blackbird blowing up we
::got people jumping out of
::the blackbird we got
::somebody going ham with an
::energy blast we got
::sentinels falling it was
::like yep this checks it all
::good job everybody he's
::gonna be upset that's the
::third blackboard this is the
::That was an incredible line.
::My surplus thoughts were the
::animation on this was super smooth.
::I feel like Invincible,
::it's going to be inevitable.
::It's going to be compared to
::Invincible on Amazon Prime.
::I honestly think that's fine.
::That's incredible company to have.
::All of these combat scenes
::are masterfully done.
::The Wolverine Nightcrawler one,
::the first Sentinel exchange
::in the first episode,
::just it's so buttery smooth.
::It is so, so, so good.
::My other surplus thought
::here was I really enjoyed,
::I just enjoyed how they
::focused on Jubilee.
::And I thought the the Matendo episode,
::while silly,
::I feel like that if you want
::to reference something overtly nostalgic,
::like the X-Men 90s beat
::them up arcade game,
::like that's how you do it.
::Like, yeah,
::like you you intertwine it with
::that character's emotional beats.
::And then if you need to add
::that outside element.
::to bring it home and I
::thought the thematic like
::connections there were
::amazing and I honestly I
::don't it's very hard for me
::to see a show pull off
::something like that if they
::were like hey you remember
::this I can't even think of
::another example because I
::don't think a show could pull it off like
::But anyway,
::the last thing I wanted to mention was,
::I think,
::in the last episode in the finale,
::when at this point you're
::like Magneto was right.
::And like,
::I was struggling with that
::because I was like,
::is that where the show wants us to go?
::And maybe, maybe it is like maybe we've.
::Maybe we have moved the
::spectrum of what we see so
::far off the base that
::Magneto is right after all these years.
::It's very hard to disagree
::with him after these past 25 years.
::It's very difficult.
::um and I love the fact that
::basically bastion's like
::they're never gonna love
::you like what are you doing
::like they don't want any of
::this they don't they have
::you as babies and they
::don't want you like what's
::your deal and cyclops is
::like he legit tries to
::follow the golden path to
::use another dune reference
::and he's like no like we
::have to stop we have to
::stop this fighting like
::this is mad like I can't
::remember exactly what he
::says but he's like we we
::have to try he tells him
::all the stand down
::I feel, to me,
::that is the essence of X-Men.
::Stuff's bad.
::Stuff's not great, but we have to try.
::No matter what happens,
::we have to make that effort.
::We have to believe that we
::can just talk it out.
::I love the fact it's depressing,
::but I love the fact that Bastion's like,
::No.
::Like, I would never... I'd never join you.
::I'd actually destroy myself
::before I'd even think of allying with you,
::which I feel like is such a
::brutal metaphor for some of
::the things that we encounter in our life.
::That you will meet people
::like this who hate
::themselves and want to
::destroy everything around them.
::And even when you stick out your hand,
::they will choose to destroy
::themselves and everyone
::around them rather than do the work.
::Or even...
::And, like,
::just letting go of that person
::is acceptable.
::And that's okay.
::But at least you tried.
::And I feel like that was done really well.
::Because it honored all of Magneto's, like,
::the spirit of his character,
::which he made valid points.
::And I will stick by that for
::as long as I live.
::But you also had Bastion, who...
::You can't convince him.
::You can't convince everybody.
::And that's okay.
::Let them go.
::They're never going to be that person.
::Some people are just so,
::they have convinced
::themselves of something so
::much that it's actually
::better to let them go.
::Like, exactly.
::Now,
::the metaphor here was a giant black hole.
::Don't throw people into a black hole.
::But like, I mean, that's the idea, right?
::You just, you have to let this go.
::And I thought that was really well done.
::Yeah, it was incredible.
::That was very, very well done.
::Sorry, before Doug moves on,
::just one more thing.
::The speech that – I forgot her name,
::but she – The UN delegate.
::Yep.
::And she – Nancy, for some reason,
::is coming to my mind.
::I don't think that's right.
::I'll look it up.
::You're good.
::Keep going.
::She gives this speech and
::she's explaining to Bastion
::why she betrayed him.
::This was my favorite speech
::in the whole series.
::And she says, he says, you know, nobody,
::she said,
::nobody's really shocked that I
::let Magneto go.
::Nobody's shocked by this.
::I think, in fact, everybody saw it coming.
::And she says, you know,
::because she's looking at Magneto.
::She sees the Holocaust number on his arm.
::She's trying to tell him,
::you haven't spoken since Genosha.
::Like, you have to say something.
::Say something to me.
::I'm sorry.
::I didn't know that this was happening.
::And the other bigger piece
::is Bastion is also working
::with other people.
::villains and corporations
::around the world to make
::this happen is what it's
::hinted at too as well so
::like dr doom is in there
::and you see a lot of uh I
::um baron what is his name
::not baron baron zemo um is
::also is also in cahoots
::with a whole bunch of other people
::But she says there was this
::familiar feeling.
::And she said,
::you don't want to know the
::worst part about it all.
::Nobody's shocked at our freedom.
::But the worst part about it
::all is there was this
::familiar feeling when
::you're watching everything
::happen on Genosha.
::And she said,
::it's nothing but this eerie thought.
::And it's something that you
::can't fucking shake.
::And she said,
::it was the most annoying shit
::in the world.
::And it was the only thought
::any sane person can fucking
::have when witnessing a fucking genocide.
::And it's the thought that
::Magneto was right.
::I just thought that that
::lead up was pretty.
::It was Valerie Cooper.
::Thanks, Brian.
::Yeah, no problem.
::That, I think,
::is probably the most
::powerful monologue in the entire show.
::I just raved about episode 10,
::but that's it.
::That is it,
::and it connects on every level.
::It fires on every cylinder.
::It explains the season as a whole.
::I think that that captured everything.
::Again,
::I think what the series did
::masterfully...
::is it started out so slow
::that it started out so slow
::and I'm not saying that as
::a dig like I'm saying it as
::a fact like it started out
::like a you know you kind of you
::And you're like, okay, cool.
::I'm reliving some stuff.
::I'm seeing some people fight.
::And it had this fucking
::thing where like you got to
::episode four and you were
::already hooked and you were like,
::Oh shit.
::Like it was just,
::it had this moment that
::like you were in it and like,
::fully in it with that attack
::on genosha and you were
::like wait what like I
::thought this was a fun show
::like and that's I think
::that that's what it did so
::well yeah especially
::because if I'm not mistaken
::the jubilee episode was
::right before it so it's a high high
::It's assembled itself.
::They assembled the way in
::which it flowed to be so like,
::you're going to get real
::comfortable and then you're
::going to be real uncomfortable,
::but you're going to be so
::hooked on what's happening
::here that you're not going
::to want to look away.
::and I think to your point
::Doug like it kind of even
::brings in the soap opera
::vibes of like we're X-Men
::stuff's gonna happen right
::but like that first episode
::is like let's go beat up
::some Sentinels and I was
::there like ready to be a
::mutant being like heck yeah
::that's what I signed up for let's go pick
::their ass and then like yeah
::you get to episode two and
::it's like magneto's here
::and three is fire made
::flesh and you're like oh no
::a clone and then you get
::the nintendo episode so
::those four episodes you're
::like I know the vibe of
::this show there's gonna be
::clones I know what this is
::jubilee's trapped in a
::video game and then episode
::five's like gambit is dead
::And not coming back.
::And not coming back.
::Yeah, like, no, no.
::He's dead, dead.
::And everybody's like, yeah, yeah,
::but Cable's there.
::He's going to go back in time, right?
::And everybody's like, no, no, no.
::And that's when Cable's like, I can't.
::And you're like,
::what do you mean you can't?
::What do you mean you can't?
::I can't fix it.
::And that rogue-ass whooping was so good,
::man.
::Oh, yeah.
::Here's the last thing I wanted to bring up,
::which is obviously like
::we're speculating season two, like,
::you know,
::and obviously Disney has asked
::fans to be patient as they
::put like finishing touches on season two.
::We are clearly going to get some, you know,
::apocalypse for the, for the, you know,
::for the ending but like yeah
::spoiler warning for the
::ending but like we're
::obviously gonna get like
::apocalypse for season two
::and we're going oh yeah
::yeah no don't no get that
::fucking shit out of there
::he stay his big bald ass
::somewhere else Dwayne
::Johnson is not apocalypse
::no I do not want that but
::anyway like I we're gonna
::get something with that and
::it's gonna be something
::time-oriented mm-hmm
::Anybody want to maybe
::speculate or anybody want
::to just sort of say what's
::something maybe they hope?
::I don't want to do too much
::speculation theater,
::but maybe a fun prediction
::if you had one.
::My fun prediction that I
::feel so strongly about is I
::feel like this is...
::I feel like it's a bait and switch.
::They're like, oh no,
::they're stuck in time.
::And then it's going to be
::resolved by the end of the first episode.
::They're only going to be
::there for a hot second and
::they're going to get pulled back.
::And then they're going to
::have to make sense between
::the two teams of what did we just see?
::Did we change anything?
::What does that look like?
::Because to me, based on the ending,
::we're going to come back to
::Apocalypse in the present
::and Gambit being one of the horsemen.
::So I feel like it's going to
::be short-lived.
::I feel like their time
::travel escapade is going to
::be short-lived.
::That's my bold prediction.
::I saw this online,
::so zero credit to me at all
::because I did not know this.
::There is a split-off series
::called Cyclops and the Phoenix.
::It's like a mini-series of
::them going back and raising
::the young Cable, essentially.
::It has something to do with
::them traveling back in time.
::It seems like it's a direct pool of
::Like from that miniseries run.
::No way.
::Cool.
::Yeah, it made me really want to read up,
::read on that because I'm
::interested in what direction they go.
::Going Apocalypse is, they saved Apocalypse,
::like the younger version of
::himself when they go back in time.
::We also don't know where
::Wolverine and Storm and Bastion,
::question mark, like are.
::um that's a good point yeah
::because they all I don't
::know where the fuck they
::went so my speculation is
::going to be I definitely
::think they resolve this
::you'll get some of that
::time with like a young
::cable with cyclops and gene
::and get to see him be a kid
::and then kind of go back
::and they get to live in
::that time of like raising
::him or protecting him in
::that kind of way yeah I
::think that this next part
::because we don't know where
::magneto is either so there's that
::Yeah, Magneto, Wolverine,
::Professor X. Oh no, wait,
::we do know we're Professor
::X. Professor X and Magneto
::are still in the same time.
::Magneto's the one that
::pulled all of their swords
::away from them as they were
::trying to kill Apocalypse.
::Okay, so it's just Wolverine and Storm.
::Wolverine, Storm, Forge, now Bishop.
::Also enjoyed that callback, by the way,
::to Days of Future Past when
::Forge had the giant board
::where everybody was.
::That was so good.
::I think having a Cyclops and Phoenix...
::Honestly, I would really enjoy that.
::Because I feel like they get
::cut off from really diving
::deep into their
::relationship a lot of the time.
::Which,
::did anybody else notice that Cyclops
::was talking to Wolverine and he's like,
::you can't die.
::You can't do this to her.
::I was like, that man knows.
::He knows.
::I appreciate it.
::He knows.
::Oddly fine with it.
::Um, here's what I'm going to say.
::I do think that they're there.
::I mean, they could,
::there's a couple of ways in
::which I think they could do it.
::They could pull directly
::from the age of apocalypse comic book,
::like if they want to do and
::in legions somehow
::responsible because that is
::the only person that is a
::child of Charles Xavier,
::which they've never touched on.
::And, um,
::For those that don't know,
::Legion is the son of Charles Xavier,
::and he usually has a hard
::time because he's so many
::different – he has schizophrenia.
::And he has so many different personalities,
::and different elements of
::his mutation are split off
::into all of his different personalities.
::That's why he's never able
::to be so strong.
::Well,
::in the prequel to the Age of
::Apocalypse storyline called
::Legion Quest –
::all of his personalities are
::consolidated into one and he becomes the,
::like the most powerful
::mutant on the planet.
::And essentially what he does
::is he creates a timeline
::where Xavier never existed
::and apocalypse is in control.
::Oh, fuck.
::Why would you do that?
::Jesus Christ.
::Why would you do that?
::It's actually really more
::psychological than that, where he's like,
::well,
::I did it because I created a world
::my dad never could.
::I don't hate them.
::I love them so much.
::I created a world where
::there's a mutant in charge
::and everybody gets to live in harmony,
::but what they sacrifice for that harmony.
::So I'm still reading that event.
::If you remember a few
::episodes ago where my
::addiction came back.
::It's okay.
::I'm reading through that
::event and the Legion Quest
::storyline is fucking wild.
::So stay tuned.
::I might have more
::information on how we get here.
::But that's my prediction.
::Because that's how you could
::resolve it really quick.
::I don't have an answer.
::I realize I didn't really
::give an answer for what I predict.
::I think I have a concern.
::What's that?
::My only concern is that
::these villains are very OP.
::You are not talking about
::some we can blast them and
::then shut them down.
::Bastion,
::only reason that these
::motherfuckers beat Bastion
::was because they had to
::damn near sacrifice everything.
::Apocalypse ain't no fucking joke either.
::I imagine Apocalypse is a
::step up from Bastion
::because he's just... That's Apocalypse.
::So how do you introduce
::these OP villains and how
::do you... What is the
::redemption for Charles Xavier?
::Because at the end of the day,
::at its most simplistic level of reading,
::Charles is the good guy.
::He is the one and the leader
::of the X-Men that people know.
::He's the bald-headed
::scallywag that brings them together.
::We got all this with Magneto,
::but really didn't get a lot
::of meat and potatoes with Charles and
::where, where does he go from, you know,
::from this point now, like,
::you know how much it changed.
::So I'm kind of interested in
::seeing that journey that they give him.
::yeah that's why I think
::legion could be interesting
::because charles would have
::to deal with something that
::he created that wasn't
::positive got it oh he would
::have to look at that
::straight in the face and
::you'd have to feel like how
::do I manage this like how
::do I which could be
::interesting especially
::since it's clear that the
::writers like to take like
::these like family dynamics
::and play with them a little
::bit you could do something
::with that I don't want to
::get too into that rabbit
::hole because usually what
::happens when I go too far
::down I'm usually wrong but
::I could see that being an
::element given all the
::context clues I have.
::Yeah.
::I mean,
::there's a lot of ways they could go
::with it.
::I'm really curious to see
::what the product of this is
::without Bo DeMaio in the same role.
::I'm looking at Mason's comment.
::Everything feels lusty.
::Bring Asghar's rogue holding
::camp's shield.
::Love Marcus' mama.
::Mimi made a sentence out of
::all of our taglines.
::That's impressive.
::I like it.
::I like it.
::So I'm really curious.
::I'm really curious to see
::how this turns out without
::him in the position that he had.
::So I'm a little nervous,
::but I also feel like you
::know what everybody liked.
::So I don't know.
::I'm high on it.
::I'm positive about it.
::So I hope they can do it again.
::Yeah, for sure.
::Gentlemen,
::anything that you all would like
::to plug this week?
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::Word up.
::There it is.
::Marcus, what do you got?
::Follow the mantra, never offended,
::always humble,
::no matter how many times
::your friends pick on you.
::That's going to be a lot.
::We're going to do that a lot.
::We're going to do that a lot.
::That's what's going to happen.
::You did, yeah.
::Follow the mantra, never offended,
::always humble.
::Yes,
::and I'm proud of you for doing that
::despite picking on you.
::I'm proud of you for that.
::Uh...
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::Help produce the show.
::Gentlemen,
::we have a three-step process to success.
::Brian,
::lay us down with that funky first step,
::sir.
::hello my funky first step is
::to read a book and I'm
::telling you if you if
::you're like brian I'm not
::flush with cash I can't buy
::books what am I a british
::parliamentarian you know
::what go to your library
::this is me telling you go
::to your library go get a
::book and and read it we
::just talked about x-men for
::like almost an hour and a
::half go get some x-men
::comics go go read go read
::things that energize you
::and that excite you read a book
::Yeah, please do.
::Marcus,
::lay us down with that soulful second step,
::sir.
::You want to make sure that you're soulful?
::Make sure you drink some water?
::I got chunky.
::Oh, okay, cool.
::All right, cool.
::First step, soulful second step.
::Guess what the third one's going to be?
::Actually, I don't know.
::It's getting hot outside.
::I'm traveling Monday,
::so I won't be here to pot.
::We are taking next week off,
::so none of us will be here to pot.
::You turkeys will have to
::deal with us and avoid in your life.
::Gobble, gobble.
::Just drink some water.
::Just drink some water.
::Hey,
::I want to give you a tasteful third step.
::Hey, look, wash your ass.
::It's important that you do that.
::It's important you do it.
::Look, we're in two shower season.
::You might go outside.
::It's starting to get humid.
::So you're going to go
::outside in the morning.
::You're going to get up.
::You're going to shower.
::Get yourself fresh and ready for the day.
::Then you're going to go out
::and you're going to sweat all day.
::Don't don't try to undo that
::with the shower in the morning.
::Don't get your sheets all
::stinky with the with the
::sweat of the day.
::Just wash your ass and your
::legs and your feet and the
::bottoms of your feet.
::You might go outside and
::walk around in the grass.
::You bring that inside.
::Wash the bottoms of your feet, y'all.
::Yeah.
::So that does us.
::for this week's episode.
::We will not be back with
::another tremendous episode.
::In fact,
::this is the last time for at least
::three weeks that you will
::not see this conglomeration
::of three people.
::Because when we get back
::after Memorial Day,
::it's a Doug and Brian classic.
::And then after that,
::it's a Doug and Marcus classic.
::Oh, gee.
::So it's a lot of me,
::but not a lot of the three.
::So you're going to have to
::deal with it as we kind of go from there.
::Mark's going to have to trade notes,
::make sure we're keeping
::Doug on track here.
::Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
::You know that as late as possible.
::It's fucking typical.
::They're going to have their
::little chat and be like,
::what'd he say to you this morning?
::That's what he said to me.
::That's going to be how it goes.
::Yeah, GP taint.
::That's another level.
::But anyway, that's what we got.
::So enjoy your Memorial Day weekend.
::Have yourself a steak and a
::beer or a beverage of your choice.
::Enjoy your time with family.
::But we'll be back after that.
::And we're looking forward to it.
::But until then, until then,
::I forgot what I usually said.
::But anyway, enjoy yourself.
::And the between time.
::Stay safe, stay healthy.
::We love y'all.
::We appreciate y'all.
::We'll catch y'all in two weeks.
::I'm playing music.
::Take us out.
::Not what I expected.
::I dig it.
::I've tried to switch it up
::every once in a while.
::I like it.
::It's like my trance music
::when I'm typing emails.
::Really?
::Yes.
::Ryan, I don't even listen to the music.
::I just am like, yep, that's right.
::You might be a psycho fan, though.