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X-Men '97 Review aka "Tip of the Hate"
Episode 2022nd May 2024 • Films in Black and White • Doug Wagner, Marcus Destin, and Bryan Roush
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We're not live yet.

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Now you are.

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I thought we'd get to meet my X-Men.

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No, we did.

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We did.

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It just was delayed.

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It was delayed.

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Sorry about that.

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I'm still fueled by the ones that slumber,

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that stand out amongst the

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one hit wonders.

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So when the dust settles and

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the sun is under the horizon,

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y'all should run the numbers.

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Uh, who the f*** won't work with me?

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Heart is out and I say that reluctantly.

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Cause it should go without saying,

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but y'all playing dumb.

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Welcome to Films of Black and White,

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everybody!

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Alright, alright, alright.

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How are you all feeling?

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It is an outstanding Monday

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to be with you all.

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Y'all, we're gonna talk a little X-Men 97.

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We are going to talk

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superpowers and animation,

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and it's just going to be good,

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good stuff.

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So super excited to get into

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that with my guys.

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Maybe there might be some other stuff,

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but y'all,

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that's what this is going to be.

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So Brian's going to do it,

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but I'm going to do it too.

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Spoiler warning.

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If you're one of those folks who's like,

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hey,

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I'm going to wait until all of X-Men

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97 is out.

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Wait no longer because it is

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out and we are going to spoil it.

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So put a pin in it here

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before we really get into

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the deets because we're

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probably going to spoil some stuff.

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But in order to do it well, Brian.

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sorry yeah brian in order to

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do it well rogue holding

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cap shield brian roush how

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you feeling I'm feeling

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good to talk about x-men 97

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I we we watched this finale

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like last like multiple

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days ago so I'm very pumped

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to talk about this on the

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pod I feel like we've

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We've saved a lot of this energy.

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We could have done a week by week thing,

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but like I'm really happy.

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We're just going to talk

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about it as like one big chunk,

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especially because I'm

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pretty high on this.

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I feel like I have not been

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having that as a secret.

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I've not been quiet about that.

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So very excited to talk about it.

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And yeah, just happy to be with my guys.

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I'm happy to be with my guys

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and talk about X-Men.

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Like it's going to be a great night.

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It's going to be a great night.

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Yeah, it's going to be absolutely great.

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And Brian,

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you had a photo finish with

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bedtime as I had a photo finish.

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And so I'd like to.

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And as we said before we started the live,

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when everyone to understand

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that being an adult is both

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a lie and a con.

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Yes, everyone.

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Yes, that was a racket.

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It's a racket.

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So, yeah, that was our pre pro.

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Did we talk about the show?

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Absolutely not.

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We talked about adulthood.

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Why would we talk about

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transitions and what we're

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going to cover when we could really,

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really get into the facts

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of how we've achieved.

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Why would we do that?

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If we had a producer,

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they'd be yelling at us.

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It's fine.

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Can you talk about the show?

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No.

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Can you please plug the socials, please?

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Not now.

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We're talking about all this shit today.

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You know what, fictional producer Gina,

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I want to talk about how

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it's great and just why I'm

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wildly unprepared to be an adult.

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That's why fictional producer Gina.

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Take it away, Doug.

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Sorry.

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Absolutely.

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Marcus J. Destin, everything feels lusty.

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How are you feeling, sir?

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Feeling good.

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I'm in the same feelings of my guys.

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Just happy to be here.

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Happy to be with my guys in

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this safe space.

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Happy to talk.

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X-Men 97,

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I had a couple rants I need to go on.

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Prior to X-Men 97.

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Yeah, do it.

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Maybe not a couple.

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Maybe it's really just one.

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So I'll get to that when we get to it.

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But just happy to be here.

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Ready to rock with my guys.

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But Doug, bring your ass, Wagner.

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How are you feeling?

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I'm feeling great.

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I had a really good weekend.

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So we had a dance recital for Harper.

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So she did two shows on

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Saturday and Sunday.

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She did quite well.

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Yes, it was with Votto.

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Good.

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And I've realized and come

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to the conclusion that I

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don't understand tap dance

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just as an art form.

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I don't understand.

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I don't get it.

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Like, I don't, you know, ballet.

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Get it.

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like all the other dances I get,

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but if someone's like, Hey,

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do you understand why tap is a thing?

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No, I don't.

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I don't get it.

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I don't understand it.

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I don't understand it when

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there's music playing, like it just,

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it throws me off.

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So that was the realization that I had.

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And that's what I have.

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And I've learned that about myself.

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And now all you know about that,

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know that about me too.

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And more importantly, closer to you,

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the Timberwolves one.

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Game 7.

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The first time in 20 years.

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So very excited about that.

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That is actually where my AKA comes from.

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There was an interview with

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Anthony Edwards right after.

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And Charles Barkley goes,

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I haven't been to Minnesota in a while.

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And he just stops and he just goes,

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bring your ass.

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I wanted that injected into my veins.

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Because it wasn't like a...

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He's like, what?

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Bring your ass.

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That's all it said.

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And this was on live TV.

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This was on TNT.

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So it was in...

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incredible they cannot lose

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inside the nba like they

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cannot like they're selling

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I think they'll sell it or

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tnt tnt basketball is no

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longer going to be a thing

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or whatever the deal is

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yeah I saw that and they're

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they're walking around

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they're trying to ship it

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where they're trying to

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pitch it to other you know

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um charles barton and chad

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are trying to pitch it to

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other stations but man

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that's a that shows a fucking gym man

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yeah yeah I love their I

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love their analysis I love

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their takes like it's good

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conversation and so yeah

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it's been it's been fun to

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watch it was amazing too

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because in the post game

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anthony edwards when they

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went I just you know

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they're like how do you do

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it ant man he's just like

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you know I just I want to

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kill everything in front of

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me and I'm just like this

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guy has no he has a filter

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but he knows exactly how

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far he can take it and I

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appreciate that like the

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main thing that came from him was

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I just want to kill

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everything in front of me.

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That's legendary.

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That's incredible.

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Just keep saying stuff, man.

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Bring your own.

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everything in front of you

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you usually get a guy like

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that in like bigger places

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like okay the bay or the

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lakers or chicago like you

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know what I mean right in

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chicago that's the

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comparison that they always

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compare him to is michael

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jordan oh yeah like to see

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that energy in minnesota

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and it's coming from him

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and the thing is he's doing

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it because that energy is

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like it's working

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Like whatever it is,

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his team on board to like, I'm,

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I'm 1000% down after the game six,

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he was like, or after game five,

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I forgot which one of game six.

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He was like, Oh, he told the people in the,

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in the, in the locker room,

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I'm gonna see y'all

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motherfuckers for game seven.

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Don't worry.

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Like, yeah, that was incredible.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm going to be in Minneapolis next week.

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And so it is very possible.

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I'm up there in that energy.

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Wow.

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See what happens.

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I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to,

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I told Brittany,

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cause when they won last night,

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I looked at Brit.

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I'm like, I'm being Minneapolis next week.

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She's like,

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do you know how expensive that

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ticket's going to be?

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And I was like,

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yes yes I do I said maybe

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I'll just wait till last

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minute and someone's trying

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to offload it or there's

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like one up in the nose

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bleeds like we'll we'll see

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what happens I will report

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live from that beat if I am

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if I am there as you should

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yeah this is this is uh

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this is a uh a movie

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podcast not a basketball

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podcast oh right tell folks

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how they can stay in touch with us

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And again, spoiler warning.

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I know I have,

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I know I have a social media

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acquaintance that was like,

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I'm not watching this until

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it all comes out.

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So that's you.

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We're spoiling everything.

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We're going to talk about

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everything from Jubilee to Wolverine.

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So I just, I can't,

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I couldn't think of another,

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a apocalypse to Wolverine.

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I can think of a Z, but, but yes, so we're,

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we're getting into all of X-Men 97.

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There you go.

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And disc track loading has

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things to do and places to

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go and people to see tonight,

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so I guess we won't waste any time.

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We won't pussyfoot around it.

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We won't dance around it.

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We won't prolong the inevitable.

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We won't wait a single moment more.

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Absolutely not.

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We have a game we like to

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call Catch That Quotable.

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Catch That Quotable!

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Catch That Quotable!

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The rushed sounds of Marcus.

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I was laughing because he was like,

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we're not going to hesitate any longer.

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Oh, no, I was going to keep going.

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And then you stalled out.

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No, you froze.

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Oh, I did?

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It was perfect timing.

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Fucking better.

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I love every minute.

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We have patched that.

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Quotable.

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All right, gentlemen,

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are you ready for this week's quote?

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Ready.

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Hit me.

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Hit me.

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Hit me.

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Here we go.

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Whether you end up in heaven

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or hell isn't God's plan.

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It's your own.

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You just have to remember what it is.

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Whether you end up in heaven

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or hell isn't God's plan.

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It's your own.

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You just have to remember what it is.

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I just remember what it is.

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I think you have to remember

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what your plan is.

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It's not God's plan because

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it's your plan.

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The only movie that this

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feels like it could be...

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Do you all remember that

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movie What Dreams May Come

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with Robin Williams?

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Yes.

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That's a good guess.

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That feels like this could

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be in that same sphere, that same arena,

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but I am not 100% on that at all.

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I was thinking the one with Keanu Reeves.

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Oh, a little bit too heavy.

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There was a devil's advocate.

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There was a devil's assistant.

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Devil's advocate.

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Devil's advocate.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's with that's with Keanu Reeves.

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And then an Al Pacino is the devil.

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I feel like.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's a movie I haven't

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seen in a long time,

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but I would love to rewatch.

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Yeah, it's heavy.

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Yes, very, very, very much so.

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Yeah, it gets sad.

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Yeah, it does.

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It does get sad.

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Yeah, that's the time.

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And we're a little cold, so that's time.

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And he doesn't want to be in the doghouse,

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so, you know, it's a kid's bedtime.

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Oh, I get it.

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I get it.

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I mean, that sounds like a hidden problem.

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Hey, if you're a Patreon member,

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you can do that.

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You're like, what an asshole I am.

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That sounds like a him problem.

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Need I remind you I was in a

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car for eight hours?

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That's all right.

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Yep, there it is.

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Yep, that's the full circle moment.

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Brian, go ahead.

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No,

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I'm going to go devil's advocate for my

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guess.

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I know that that's wrong

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because that dialogue is a

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little bit too light for that movie,

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but that's going to be my guess.

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All right.

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I'm going to go the late part.

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No, don't stop.

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No, don't.

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You don't want me to stop?

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Brian, you went a romantic comedy?

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You went a romantic comedy

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with Keanu Reeves?

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Is this movie about God?

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No,

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it's technically I don't consider a

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romantic comedy.

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Just to put it out there.

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Have you all seen that movie?

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Yes.

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Okay, spoiler alert.

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Keanu Reeves gets smashed by a bus.

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That dude dies.

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I did not know that.

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Yeah, Sandra Bullock's eating her sandwich,

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and in the background is his character.

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He just gets smacked, run over by Buzz.

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Can I just say... All right,

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I'm going to say it after

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we do our guesses.

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I'm going to say what was

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really funny about that exchange.

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I can tell you what's really funny.

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It's my goddamn internet.

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That's what's making this so much worse.

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But it was like Brian was talking...

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And Doug freezes out.

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But then he comes back and he says, no, no,

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no.

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Don't stop.

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Don't stop.

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Keep going.

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And Brandon's like,

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you don't want me to stop?

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You don't want me to stop?

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That's fucking hilarious.

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Gentlemen, we are way off.

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I don't know what this is.

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It's Cowboys and Aliens from 2011.

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What?

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That profound dialogue came

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from Cowboys vs. Aliens.

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Daniel Craig, Harrison Ford, and...

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Olivia.

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Olivia Munn.

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No, no, that's not Olivia Munn.

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It's the other one.

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It's the other one that

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everybody confuses Olivia Munn with.

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Oh my gosh.

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We're never going to get her

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on the show now.

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She's screaming at us here.

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Go ahead.

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That's fine.

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It's not Olivia.

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It's not Olivia.

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Olivia Wilde.

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There it is.

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It's Olivia, but it's Olivia Wilde,

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not Olivia Wilde.

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By the way, on IMDb, when I type in Olivia,

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she comes up as third,

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and then Tron Legacy is her main movie,

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which is just so funny to me.

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She's in so many other things,

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and she's directed, but it's like, no, no,

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no, no, no.

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Tron Legacy, check this out.

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Let her know.

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Let her know what we think of her.

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Like...

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What we attach you to forever.

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Man.

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I'd love to talk to Olivia

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Wilde and be like,

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how do you feel about IMDb

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having the first movie

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you're known for as Tron Legacy?

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I want to talk to any real, any actor,

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person who acts actress.

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I want to see what they feel

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about IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes, like,

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unfiltered.

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Like, tell them nobody,

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this will never air.

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I just want to know what they think.

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Because, like, movies like Garfield,

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Garfield's Rotten Tomatoes

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score came out today at, like, 55%.

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Oh, did it really?

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Yeah.

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So I'm like, well, goddamn,

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that's not fantastic.

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But it seemed like they'd do that,

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and then it creeps back up for them.

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incredible remember rotten

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tomatoes much like adult

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life is corrupt and it's a

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racket like it's it's

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basically that the way it's

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a racket it's a racket it

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is a racket everybody's

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doing spice over there no

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don't trust a single review

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because basically what

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they're doing is they're

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sucking down sandworm juice

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and then being like I loved it and that's

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not helpful to anyone plot

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the dune so rotten tomatoes

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and dune have the same plot

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in life yes well and the

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funny part is imdb is all

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user run too so like I mean

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they can the the actors and

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actresses they can upload

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stuff but like all that

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information is user

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generated so like you could

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go to your page and be like

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I don't want to be known

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for drawn legacy please

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stop like I want to

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remember and remember

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rotten tomatoes is run

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exclusively by the benedict

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like that is just how it

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works over there they run

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all of that over there

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What's Amazon then?

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If they're the Bene Gesserit,

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are they the Harkonnens?

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The Harkonnens run IMDb then?

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I don't even know.

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You look at Jeff Bezos and

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tell me he's not a Harkonnen.

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He does have no hair.

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That man is listening to

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throat music while he's

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rolling in a pile of money.

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Wow, we just figured that out.

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We just figured out the

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monopoly in the world through Dune.

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Using Dune references?

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If you were confused, now you get it.

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You're welcome.

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And we did some throat singing.

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I mean,

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this episode's off to a great start.

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Guys, this episode has it all.

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Tell us, Villabean,

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is that what you call him?

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Roman, Patreon member, we are trying.

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I promise.

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We are trying to raise money

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for our next non-profit.

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Oh, that brings me to my rant.

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Oh, please.

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Oh, he's got the double clear.

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Diddy.

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Oh, God.

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What?

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Diddy.

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P. Diddy.

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Diddy.

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Or whatever your mama named you.

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Sean Combs, if you will.

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Sean Combs.

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You're a piece of shit.

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Indeed you are.

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And I am going to pull my

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third heat card as a

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stakeholder in the podcast and say,

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the next $100 that we get from the pot,

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we are going to match it,

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match the donation,

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and it's going to go to a

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domestic violence initiative.

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Because we don't tolerate that.

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piece of shit.

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You're an asshole and you

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are little dick energy.

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I don't give a fuck how rich you are.

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You are a bitch.

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You are the scum of the

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fucking earth to put your

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hands on a woman and to

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make your fake ass apology

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video about how you was in a dark space.

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Listen,

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ain't that much grace in the

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fucking world.

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You put that woman through

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hell and probably other

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people too and only

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apologize because you got caught.

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You are a piece of shit.

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And so that's that.

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That is a full-throated endorsement.

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I agree with you, Marcus.

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100%.

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I have no notes.

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You nailed it.

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that video was very when it

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was released by cnn one I'm

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a little shocked at cnn to

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be honest with you like

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that was rough like even

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for cnn like that was that

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was rough for them to like

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be like we got it like are

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you tmz or like trying to

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actually report the news I

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mean um well I fixed my mic

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should I say it again no no

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we heard you you're good yeah I mean yeah

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well maggie was the one that

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actually like showed it to

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me it was like one of those

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moments where she's like

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you you won't believe this

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you won't believe what I'm

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what I'm seeing right now

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and I was like oh like it

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can't like you know my head

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I was like cnn like they

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don't show a whole lot and

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then I was like nope that's

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a full video of terrible

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violence so I'm four

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fucking k you ass yeah

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Like, 4K.

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And you paid the hotel to

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get rid of the evidence.

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Like,

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you paid them $50,000 to get rid of it,

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and it still came back out.

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And, like, you are just... Like,

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I'm pray for Cassie.

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Like,

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I'm so glad that she found somebody

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else who was, like,

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willing to really love her.

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But, dog, you gotta go down.

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I also...

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I also want to take this

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moment where there's a lot of time,

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and I promise this is going to connect,

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but a lot of violence

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survivors and domestic violence survivors,

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when it comes to these

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folks who are in rich, powerful,

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privileged positions,

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you'll see a lot of

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headlines that they've settled.

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And a lot of people really like to say,

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well, they settled.

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If something was really wrong,

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the court would have found it.

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And it's like,

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you watch that video and

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this person having violence

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enacted on them,

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what do you think's going

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through their head?

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Like,

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do you think they're actually going

::

to win against someone like Diddy,

::

who at that point was

::

pretty much a kingmaker?

::

Or are you just going to

::

just want to move on with

::

your life after something

::

like that happens to you?

::

And that person's settled,

::

if I remember that story correctly.

::

So, like, this is why.

::

Because people want to be

::

done with this episode of

::

their life and move on.

::

So, my thoughts are with the survivor, too,

::

because all this is coming

::

back up and everybody's seeing it.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

And you put a...

::

He put a fucking... Rumor has it,

::

or allegedly, somebody tried to help her,

::

or Kid Cudi tried to help her,

::

and he put a fucking bomb in the car.

::

And that's straight from Kid Cudi.

::

What?

::

That's part of the stories

::

that are going around after

::

he was raided of...

::

It was said that I could be

::

getting this story wrong,

::

and I apologize if I am,

::

but from my remembrance,

::

Kid Cudi said that he tried

::

to help Cassie to some

::

capacity or tried to advocate for her,

::

whatever the case may be,

::

and Diddy essentially put a

::

bomb in this motherfucker's

::

car or tried to blow his car up.

::

Oh my God.

::

Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong,

::

because I don't want to be

::

spewing the wrong information,

::

but this is all that's been coming out,

::

stuff that has been coming out.

::

He's a piece of shit.

::

That's the bottom line.

::

Yeah.

::

Um, and so here's the other thing,

::

like if you or someone, you know,

::

is currently in a domestic

::

violence situation,

::

we're going to post the

::

number for the national

::

domestic violence hotline.

::

So like you can get in touch

::

with somebody to get help.

::

You can also text them at eight, eight,

::

seven, eight,

::

eight right now if you need to.

::

So I think we're going to

::

post that resource in the

::

show notes and the episode description.

::

Um,

::

Um,

::

so you all have access to that because

::

again, you know,

::

we want everyone to get safe.

::

And again,

::

I prayers for Cassie and so

::

thankful that she's at,

::

but hopefully she's able to

::

make it through having to

::

relive this again.

::

But, you know, if you know somebody,

::

you know,

::

you can help them by just

::

calling or even if you're

::

in that situation, call yourself.

::

So, yeah.

::

And I do I do want to I do

::

want to back up Marcus here.

::

I mean, this was November 2023,

::

where there were there were

::

two confirmations that that

::

Kid Cudi's car did explode.

::

And there are two eyewitness

::

accounts saying that it happened.

::

So like it.

::

Oh, that's that's that's unreal.

::

That's from complex dot com

::

that I'm reading this.

::

That is mafia.

::

That's unreal.

::

I didn't I did not know that.

::

You're a nasty dog.

::

But this is a movie podcast,

::

and that does not digress

::

from what the fuck I said previously,

::

and that's Marcus J. Destin.

::

I stand by everything I said.

::

You put your hands on somebody,

::

you deserve to get your ass

::

dog fucking once.

::

Yeah.

::

But this is a movie podcast,

::

and we're here to talk X-Men.

::

So, sorry,

::

I should have put a trigger

::

warning ahead of that.

::

I do apologize for those that needed that,

::

but

::

No,

::

and I hope they throw his ass

::

underneath the jail.

::

That's where he needs to go.

::

But,

::

so we're going to pivot over back into

::

X-Men and into the content

::

that we're going to talk about today.

::

Oh, I had one more thing.

::

Please, Marcus.

::

Brian and I were speaking.

::

This is not as heavy.

::

We were talking in pre-pro,

::

and we didn't know if you knew this.

::

Shut up.

::

Me and Brian were talking.

::

We love you too.

::

I did want to say this.

::

I'll tell you this.

::

Brian knows this.

::

Doug is such a good friend.

::

You just have to say that

::

out loud because you don't

::

run into many good friends

::

and good people anymore in the world.

::

I did just want to say that

::

on our podcast that Doug is

::

just a really good friend.

::

I hope that all what you put

::

out there is super

::

reciprocated because he is

::

really just a good... He

::

will get on your ass,

::

But he is a really good friend.

::

Brian is also a great friend.

::

My long-distance bestie.

::

You know what I mean?

::

We be rocking.

::

But I did just want to say that.

::

Anyway, we were talking on the pod, right?

::

In pre-pro.

::

And we were talking about

::

Scarlett Johansson and

::

ChatGPT going into a battle

::

because ChatGPT was going

::

to just use... They had a

::

meeting set up with her.

::

Tried to get her to agree to

::

use her voice for ChatGPT.

::

to like kind of resemble the

::

movie her like how she used

::

her voice in that movie oh

::

okay I don't like that and

::

they essentially were gonna

::

she said no and they were

::

gonna do it anyway so she

::

lawyer the fuck up

::

Oh my god.

::

So we saw that,

::

maybe Brian said he saw it

::

45 minutes ago when I asked him.

::

I literally saw it 10

::

minutes before I logged on.

::

I just wanted to see, Doug,

::

if you knew anything about this.

::

Absolutely not.

::

This is insane.

::

This is the craziest thing

::

I've ever heard in my life.

::

Oh my gosh.

::

I'm so excited to tell you about this.

::

Tell me about it.

::

Do you know about Sky,

::

the chat GPT for voice assisted?

::

No.

::

no oh my gosh okay so all

::

right I'm gonna close brian

::

brian's about to tell me

::

brian said you don't like

::

with the level of

::

excitement that someone had

::

never heard about the movie

::

kingpin before like you've

::

never seen that let me tell

::

you why it's hilarious okay

::

So essentially,

::

ChatGPT released this demo.

::

It's called ChatGPT 4.0 Voice,

::

essentially.

::

It's the voice component for ChatGPT.

::

And essentially,

::

you can just have a conversation with it.

::

Oh, fun.

::

And they just released it last week.

::

They've now suspended it.

::

because it sounded like

::

scarlett johansson now um

::

but you can just have these

::

conversations with chat gpt

::

like hey I'm looking for

::

movie times can you reserve

::

tickets and all this stuff

::

one of the examples they

::

had was like hey chat gp or

::

hey sky what's what room am

::

I in what do you think I'm

::

doing um like that that

::

type of stuff right like

::

already red flags going up

::

I don't like that

::

for anybody that has watched

::

for anyone that has watched

::

any sci-fi movie and I'm

::

not even talking about like

::

Blade Runner I'm like

::

literally even Star Wars

::

like it's just it's so

::

clear it's a bad idea but

::

there's a distinct level of

::

the population

::

let's say 13% that are going

::

to try to do wholesome shit with this.

::

For sure.

::

The remaining 87%,

::

the remaining ever 87% will

::

eventually just do gross stuff with this.

::

He's got zero faith in humanity.

::

I said, I said,

::

eventually they might start off with like,

::

Oh, I can ask it movie times, but then,

::

uh,

::

so his girlfriend will step

::

out for a night out like on

::

a Thursday and he'll be

::

like I wonder what else I

::

could do with it Brian keep

::

going please no so I'm so

::

for our listeners if you're

::

like okay like what is

::

Scarlett Johansson so upset

::

about like I don't get it

::

so essentially like open AI contacted her

::

legit contacted her and was

::

like hey do you do you want

::

to be the voice for this

::

and she promptly said

::

absolutely not um and so

::

I'm gonna play what this

::

sounds like so you can hear

::

it listeners okay um I'm

::

gonna make sure I'm sharing

::

sound we're gonna find out

::

if I'm doing that hey we'll figure it out

::

Yeah,

::

and essentially you can be the judge

::

is what I'm trying to say here.

::

You can be the judge.

::

You can see if this sounds

::

like Scarlett Johansson.

::

So we'll play like 30 seconds of it.

::

Look at this generic frat boy.

::

Yeah, he's doing gross shit with it.

::

How about you?

::

I see you're rocking an open AI hoodie.

::

Nice chilies.

::

What's up with that ceiling about?

::

Are you in a cool industry

::

style office or something?

::

Well,

::

can you take a guess at what I might

::

be doing based on what I'm

::

showing you here?

::

no no no no it looks like

::

you're in some kind of

::

recording or production

::

setup with those lights

::

tripods and possibly a mic

::

it seems like you might be

::

gearing up to shoot a video

::

or I'll end it there I'll

::

end it there doug looks so uncomfortable

::

Immediately?

::

Nope.

::

Just noping out of it.

::

What do you think I'm trying

::

to do with what I'm showing

::

you right now?

::

She needs to have an immediate yuck.

::

I don't want to tell you

::

that sounds like your business.

::

There needs to be a chief response.

::

I'm so upset.

::

Okay, stop.

::

I'm very sad that Scarlett

::

Johansson is clearly getting ripped off.

::

Do you think that sounds like her?

::

I think so.

::

It does sound like her.

::

It's the inflection in her voice.

::

That's a good point.

::

I see her rocking that OpenAI hoodie.

::

Very nice.

::

The way she says that is spot on.

::

And so...

::

Yeah, that's eerily close.

::

I didn't see the video.

::

It's close enough.

::

I didn't see the video.

::

And me hearing that for the first time,

::

that's exactly how she talks in the movie,

::

her.

::

And I see exactly what they

::

were trying to go.

::

I mean, that's just Scarlett Johansson.

::

You know what I mean?

::

Yeah.

::

Like, roll she's in.

::

Hey, big guy.

::

Sun's coming down low.

::

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

::

You know?

::

Yep.

::

I mean,

::

would I enjoy having a Scarlett

::

Johansson-inspired voice assistant?

::

Maybe, but it is... You're right,

::

it does have that same

::

cadence and tone of her voice,

::

even if it doesn't have the

::

same energy behind it.

::

I don't know if any of that's making sense,

::

but I think basically the

::

New York Times article...

::

calls out the fact that like,

::

and this is from Scarlett

::

Johansson's statement, but like open AI,

::

like they shot themselves in the foot.

::

They have paperwork asking her to do this.

::

And then they make an

::

assistant like her voice.

::

And the best part is they

::

reached out to her two days

::

before this video came out being like,

::

are you sure you don't want to?

::

Are you sure?

::

There's plenty enough here

::

for a settlement.

::

As Marcus and I were talking about,

::

Scarlett Johansson,

::

not someone I want to get

::

in a legal fight with.

::

She went toe-to-toe with Disney.

::

Ten toes deep.

::

Nope.

::

I don't want to do that.

::

If anybody's going to lawyer up,

::

she's going to lawyer up.

::

And they owe her a movie.

::

That's the bottom line.

::

Disney now owes her a fucking movie.

::

She got money from Disney.

::

You think anybody can do that?

::

I'm not messing with Scarlett Johansson.

::

We watched that motherfucker,

::

that little Napoleon

::

Dynamite motherfucker in

::

Florida try to go toe-to-toe with Disney,

::

and he fucking lost.

::

He lost everything.

::

Ron DeSanti, he lost every fucking thing.

::

This is not Ron DeSanti.

::

This is goddamn Scarlett Johansson.

::

You're right.

::

Ron DeSantis,

::

he lost against Scarlett Johansson.

::

He lost.

::

Yeah.

::

One.

::

I don't know.

::

I don't know.

::

What does that say?

::

I don't know.

::

One.

::

Seriously.

::

Zero.

::

And also,

::

people are going to do gross

::

stuff with that.

::

They're going to do a lot of

::

gross stuff with that.

::

I mean, there was another piece.

::

I can't remember if it was from the Times,

::

but it was like,

::

we need to find a way to

::

embrace the adult content of AI.

::

And I'm like, man,

::

we are running so fast

::

before we can even walk.

::

Yeah.

::

you you get an ai to a point

::

where it's like not giving

::

me hallucinations maybe we

::

can talk about that there's

::

gonna be some horrific

::

stuff on the other end of

::

it if you don't do the

::

dishes like just straight

::

out like I'm asking you to

::

give me like 10 recipes for

::

soup and then like I got a

::

hallucination once and it

::

was like anyway tigers

::

And I'm like, I didn't ask about tigers.

::

Thanks for giving me this

::

information about it.

::

Thanks.

::

I appreciate it.

::

Can you read me a bedtime story?

::

Would you like to hear about my taint?

::

No way.

::

I don't want to hear about that at all.

::

That's not what I asked about.

::

I asked for a bedtime story for my son.

::

I didn't ask for any details

::

about your chat GPT grundle

::

that you're trying to tell me about.

::

I'm so nervous because we

::

have a Google home and like

::

all of the boys are in trouble.

::

All the boys always ask me, like,

::

show me pictures of Spider-Man.

::

I'm always like, nope.

::

I don't like that.

::

And, like, I watch it, but, like,

::

they're kids.

::

I can't be there all the time.

::

Like, how long until it's, like,

::

fan art that is, like,

::

questionable for a child, right?

::

So, like, it's like,

::

you can't use it without us.

::

And my oldest, my oldest will, my second,

::

when he figures it out, nope.

::

No,

::

he's probably going to see something if

::

they keep doing this.

::

Or we just mute it.

::

I'm going to throw up.

::

All this AI stuff,

::

they're just not thinking about it.

::

Once you get it,

::

they do have safe settings.

::

I do take that back.

::

They do have safe settings.

::

They probably won't.

::

They probably won't.

::

But still, you want to do that,

::

but you can't even do the basics?

::

Shelby pictures of Spider-Man.

::

No!

::

Brian from the other room.

::

No!

::

Get out of my way.

::

I'm just bowling over the two-year-old.

::

Brian, I gotta be honest with you.

::

Your ass is gonna be begging

::

for fucking tigers.

::

You're gonna be begging for

::

tigers after that.

::

You're gonna be like,

::

show me pictures of

::

Spider-Man and you're gonna be like,

::

please, please, please make that,

::

please make that tiger's

::

Just, okay, thank God it was Spider-Man.

::

I also did not like the way

::

Tate hit my ears.

::

Yeah, no, that was super upset.

::

Was the T too hard?

::

It was the ChatGP Tate.

::

Like, that's the part that I didn't... Oh,

::

I see how well that works.

::

Yeah, I didn't...

::

Yeah, it's also very gross.

::

Here we go.

::

Let's talk about X-Men.

::

Let's talk about mutants,

::

because I would really sure like to.

::

So we got through all the

::

episodes of X-Men 97.

::

We were very excited about

::

that being a thing.

::

And so we're going to talk about it.

::

We're going to get into it.

::

So again,

::

this is another little spoiler warning.

::

Does someone want to give like an overall,

::

not of the whole series,

::

not of an individual episode,

::

but sort of like the main

::

sort of through line of the

::

series itself?

::

All nine episodes, I believe it was.

::

I can't unless Doug is the

::

X-Men pro that reads up on everything.

::

So, Doug, you can do it or I can do it.

::

It's up to you.

::

Sure.

::

Yeah, I can.

::

Let me let me give it a shot.

::

And if I miss something,

::

I'll let you know.

::

So so what had happened was

::

this series picks up

::

exactly where we remember

::

from back in the 90s.

::

Wives off.

::

Charles is sick, dying.

::

So he goes off world.

::

To try and their medical

::

technology promises to fix him.

::

And so he leaves the X-Men

::

sort of in the care of Magneto.

::

And so I'm skipping like I'm

::

just kind of getting right to it because.

::

What I liked, this is separate,

::

so this is an aside.

::

The first four episodes,

::

when you compare it with the second four,

::

feel slow.

::

Like they feel so slow when

::

you compare it.

::

So I'm going to be speed

::

through the first four.

::

So what you keep doing was

::

Charles sick or did he get shot?

::

Because I think they say he was dying.

::

I don't remember if it was

::

sick or he got shot.

::

Okay.

::

yeah that was confusing at

::

the start because everybody

::

was like charles was shot

::

and died and I was like no

::

I saw this guy fly off in a

::

spaceship I know I saw that

::

yeah and so anyway so he

::

leaves it in the care of

::

magneto and so magneto is

::

sort of charged with

::

carrying on charles's

::

legacy which is a challenge

::

for him because up until

::

this point he has been very loved

::

humans need to be eradicated.

::

We're the superior species.

::

And so now he's being sort

::

of tried to work with these folks.

::

And so what ends up

::

happening is a series of anti-mutant

::

uh radicals storm the un

::

building um led by the

::

executioner and the

::

executioner uses the same

::

technology that they use to

::

cure mutants but to

::

basically shoot them and

::

take away their powers and

::

he manages to shoot takes a

::

shot at magneto storm jumps

::

in the way she loses her

::

powers and then goes off to

::

find you know forge and if

::

there's a way that she can get them back

::

Meanwhile, Matt,

::

still carrying on this legacy.

::

But now we're confronted with, you know,

::

what's real and what isn't

::

between Scott and Jean Grey.

::

Because there's this other

::

Jean Grey that's in here

::

and we find out that she's

::

actually a clone and their

::

memories are intertwined.

::

So when Scott and Jean give

::

birth to their son, Steve, Stephen.

::

No, that's not right.

::

Nathan.

::

Anyway, Nathan, there it is.

::

I knew it was one of those N names.

::

So when they give birth to Nathan,

::

it turns out that he didn't

::

give it birth with the real Jean Grey.

::

What's Jean?

::

What's the other one's name?

::

Madeline Pryor.

::

Madeline Pryor.

::

So Madeline Pryor is the other.

::

And so there's a whole thing there.

::

But Mr. Sinister steals Nathan,

::

infects him with a technological virus.

::

Bishop takes him back into

::

the future to have him fixed.

::

And sort of that's where we leave that.

::

So we're going to jump

::

forward a little bit.

::

Magneto is called back to Genosha,

::

and he brings Rogue and

::

Gambit and Beast and others

::

with him on this mission.

::

And then there was a giant...

::

sentinel conglomeration that

::

attacks Genosha and basically takes out,

::

I think they said 40,000

::

mutants was the final number, I believe.

::

I think if I remember it correctly.

::

Okay.

::

And destroys Genosha and

::

kills and injures thousands.

::

In the process,

::

Cable tries to come back to

::

save his parents in this

::

whole moment and save his

::

mother in that moment.

::

But he's realized he's

::

reached sort of like a

::

nexus moment that he can't

::

ever get there before it happens.

::

Yeah.

::

which is interesting that they did that.

::

And then as we start to get

::

into the latter half of the show,

::

it's really trying to

::

uncover who is responsible

::

for this particular piece.

::

And we come to find that it is...

::

Oh, I'm going to forget his name.

::

I'm terrible with names.

::

Bastion.

::

Yeah,

::

Bastion is the one who's responsible.

::

And Bastion is a mutant who

::

can intertwine himself with

::

technology because his dad

::

was taken over by Nimrod.

::

And so when he was born...

::

Bastion is essentially an

::

extension of Nimrod.

::

And so for those that don't know,

::

Nimrod is a super advanced Sentinel.

::

And so Bastion can

::

intertwine himself with the

::

Sentinels and sort of control them.

::

So he was the one who was

::

responsible for Genosha.

::

And he has now created these

::

human beings who are living,

::

breathing Sentinels that

::

used to be humans.

::

And so the crisis is,

::

what do we do in this

::

moment with that information?

::

All the while,

::

After the human sentinels sort of attack,

::

Charles manages to come

::

back from his booty call in space.

::

We had a whole episode in space.

::

We had a whole episode.

::

I'm skipping over those aside episodes,

::

Charles in space,

::

Jubilee inside the video game with Mojo.

::

Those are other things that happened.

::

Storms.

::

Storms.

::

Storm's cast.

::

How Storm got her groove

::

back is how I'll call it.

::

Oh, I like that.

::

I like it.

::

And so... That's exactly what that was.

::

And so the main through line

::

is they have to stop him,

::

but Magneto is on Asteroid M,

::

and he manages to convince

::

both Rogue and Sunspot to

::

join him on Asteroid M to say...

::

Charles enough is enough.

::

Like what more do you want us to do here?

::

You asked me, I love this line from,

::

I think it was, uh,

::

acceptance is extinction too, is they,

::

he said,

::

I've walked your path for long enough.

::

Are you prepared to walk mine?

::

Um, of this idea of like,

::

you need to see this for what it is.

::

This is them trying to exterminate us.

::

And there's a future coming

::

that we need to prevent.

::

Um,

::

Magneto Wolverine tries to kill Magneto.

::

Magneto pulls all the

::

adamantium out of his body.

::

And Charles enters his mind

::

in an effort to stop him

::

and reverse the poles and

::

restore power because

::

Magneto sort of turns off all the power,

::

shuts everybody down.

::

And it sort of culminates

::

with this gigantic showdown

::

between Bastion and the X-Men.

::

And now trying to while

::

Charles and Magneto are injured.

::

The X-Men need to rise the

::

occasion to defeat Bastion

::

and sort of get themselves

::

back to a point.

::

And so that is the gist.

::

There is a ton that I skipped over.

::

I tried to keep this really, really simple,

::

but there was a ton that I skipped over.

::

So, yeah.

::

Gentlemen, anything really,

::

really key that you all

::

feel like I left out?

::

I know it was a lot,

::

but anything that was major

::

plot points I left out?

::

When...

::

It's just when Magneto is captured,

::

and it's just a very small piece,

::

but it is a big piece.

::

That's an important one.

::

When they reveal Bastion,

::

it turns out... So they use these words.

::

I don't want to seem like

::

I'm just using these words

::

to minimize the impact of them, but...

::

they use the words in the show,

::

there was a genocide on Genosha.

::

And all the mutants died.

::

I guess before Gambit dies in that fight,

::

he sacrifices himself to

::

blow up one of the sentinels.

::

But also,

::

Magneto is protecting a bunch of

::

people around him.

::

I'm guessing at some point

::

before he let it go and he

::

tells the kid... I watched this again

::

I watched the entire season

::

all the way through this weekend.

::

I'm good on my list.

::

I'd love to do that.

::

It was so good.

::

Even better the second time.

::

Good gumbo, man.

::

I swear this show was really, really good.

::

But anyway, sorry.

::

Bastion somehow took Magneto

::

before the rest of Genosha was destroyed.

::

and held him hostage and so

::

when he was held hostage

::

the UN representative frees

::

Magneto and then he goes

::

and he basically says

::

enough is enough and

::

releases like these Magneto

::

polar like these polar yeah

::

he turns he reverses all

::

the magnetic poles on earth

::

yeah and turned off

::

everything and that's why

::

Professor X is trying to

::

hop in his head because

::

he's like killed a bunch of

::

people essentially in

::

addition to he did that to

::

shut down the Bionic the Bionic

::

biological sentinels,

::

they're human sentinels

::

that are like mixed sleeper cells.

::

Yes.

::

Sentinel Prime.

::

I just got it.

::

Yeah, that's it.

::

Gambit's death, if we want to call it that,

::

was definitely something I

::

wanted to bring up.

::

Also,

::

madeline prior dying yep

::

which right maybe right

::

it's x it's x-men so

::

anything's possible it's

::

marvel it's comics um but I

::

did I was shocked I i was

::

shocked that madeline prior

::

and sebastian uh shaw also

::

died um so sebastian shaw

::

the hellfire club at

::

genosha madeline prior I am

::

I am shocked those two deaths um

::

We're not undone by the end of the season.

::

I should check that by the

::

end of the season.

::

That's wild.

::

Yeah.

::

So I want to start with this.

::

So I know, I mean,

::

this is going to be... So I

::

want to give this show its flowers,

::

and I want to give it a

::

chance to talk through how good it is.

::

Let's do it.

::

But the three of us will

::

unanimously tell you that

::

this is up there.

::

This show is something different than...

::

your run of the mill,

::

like animation type of show.

::

I mean, I would,

::

I would rank it among the best.

::

I would compare this and the

::

last of us and put it in

::

the same echelon of

::

streaming TV that we have

::

gotten so far this year.

::

Um, but I was curious, you know, again,

::

Brian Marcus,

::

want to curious about your

::

thoughts on where do you

::

put it in terms of like how

::

it ranks and where it falls

::

and just thoughts in

::

general on just the quality

::

that this show had overall.

::

What would you have me categorize this in?

::

All-time TV?

::

Animation only?

::

Or you just want to know where?

::

Where you put it.

::

Wherever you want to put it, put it there.

::

I think in the past, since COVID,

::

there has not been a lot of

::

TV that has really kept me...

::

attached and like week to

::

week where I felt like I

::

could not miss it like this

::

like it hit the it's more

::

than just the nostalgia for

::

me that has this so high up

::

it's the writing it's the

::

animation it's the

::

character development it's

::

the it's the reality of it

::

all like how real it feels

::

so for me this is it's top

::

five for me in TV yeah top

::

five completely agree yeah

::

completely agree

::

I would have to think of where,

::

I don't know what I'm categorized.

::

Like, Daredevil, that's, like,

::

really good TV.

::

Not to make all my shit

::

sound like I'm just, like,

::

comic book shit, but, like, all time.

::

I mean...

::

I mean, Daredevil's up there, though.

::

I mean, like, I put, like,

::

Daredevil season,

::

I would say even season three is probably,

::

I feel like,

::

the best season up there with, like,

::

Breaking Bad season three.

::

It was a great, great.

::

And I consider Breaking Bad

::

probably the best

::

live-action drama of all time.

::

I mean,

::

I'm even thinking about Community

::

Season 2.

::

Community Season 2 is perfect.

::

Community Season 2... And

::

the reason I'm making these

::

comparisons is it's the consistent...

::

quality it is just a

::

consistent quality where

::

it's like there's no

::

there's no episode where

::

you feel like it drops off

::

now you can skip this like

::

it all feels yeah essential

::

viewing and like like

::

Arrested Development season

::

two comes to mind

::

um westworld season one like

::

this is this is enter it is

::

no doubt in the pantheon to

::

me because x-men 97 does

::

this thing where it

::

streamlines so many clunky

::

stories that you could get

::

caught up in right because

::

there's been 20 years now

::

25 plus years now of x-men

::

comics since 1997 right

::

that you could have done a

::

whole lot with that you could have read

::

Who did?

::

You could have done.

::

Good point, Brian.

::

A lot.

::

We've had three franchise... No.

::

We've had two.

::

It all gets mixed up.

::

We've had a lot of extra movies.

::

Brian, it's three.

::

It's the original, like,

::

Bryan Singer ones.

::

It's... Right after that,

::

it was... The Vaughn ones, right?

::

Yep.

::

The Vaughn ones.

::

And then... And then Bryan Singer again.

::

And then Bryan Singer again.

::

But, like, it depends where you put it.

::

But, like, yeah.

::

I mean, it's three distinct...

::

franchisee type things.

::

X-Men Origins.

::

Plus the One-Off.

::

Technically Deadpool is an

::

X-Men franchise on itself.

::

So like...

::

They could have drawn from so much.

::

And I think the amount of

::

restraint is admirable here

::

to tell such a good story.

::

And which is why I put it

::

with the other shows that I

::

mentioned where they are not,

::

they're not giving you a side quest.

::

Like everything does this.

::

for a reason,

::

even the Jubilee video game

::

mini so is what I'll call

::

it like you can say, Oh,

::

that's kind of a bottle episode.

::

But I would push back on it

::

because Jubilee gets her

::

moment to shine and gets to

::

see who she can become,

::

which directly leads in to

::

episode 10 of season one,

::

like that payoff works for

::

six episodes later.

::

When she's fighting Bastion.

::

And he's like what are you doing here.

::

And we're like no we know

::

Jubilee can do this.

::

Because we've seen it.

::

Well and the other thing I

::

really like about that.

::

Is Brian you're right.

::

It could feel like a bottle episode.

::

But it also advances.

::

Like a major character arc.

::

Between her and Sunspot.

::

And their relationship.

::

Like that moment for both of them.

::

Of getting through it.

::

Is very very important to their story.

::

As a couple.

::

In the whole series itself.

::

So I think.

::

I mean,

::

because when they sort of have

::

their like schism and he

::

makes the choice to go with Magneto,

::

like they've been through it.

::

So when she's like, what the fuck, dude?

::

Like, yeah, if that's that,

::

you feel that a little bit

::

more because you know what

::

you've been through.

::

Brian, to your point on May 29th.

::

So next week we will

::

celebrate the 50th

::

anniversary of Wolverine as

::

a character in comic books.

::

And so, Brian,

::

to your point of what we

::

could pull from for this, I mean,

::

it's endless.

::

It's endless what you could

::

have pulled from in terms

::

of story storylines.

::

And when you say that

::

Wolverine was his own franchise, right?

::

Like four franchises from

::

X-Men that you could have pulled from.

::

And they didn't even do a

::

Wolverine episode.

::

And I would have been fine

::

with a Wolverine episode.

::

I feel like that's the tax, right?

::

Sometimes with X-Men stuff, I'm like,

::

all right,

::

you want to watch Morph do something?

::

Well,

::

you got to watch 20 Minutes of

::

Wolverine climbing up a mountain.

::

That's what it feels like sometimes.

::

You have to watch Wolverine

::

yell at Omega Red for 15 minutes.

::

Yes.

::

100%.

::

I'm pretty sure that happened.

::

I'm almost positive.

::

And it didn't do that.

::

That just shows me the

::

adeptness and the mastery

::

of I'm just going to say it,

::

Bo DeMaio and his writing team.

::

And

::

We'll talk about it later,

::

about what his future looks like,

::

but himself and his writing team,

::

they nailed it with that

::

restraint and focusing on

::

what was important rather

::

than getting sidetracked.

::

Yeah.

::

Bo, have you tried apologizing?

::

Like, have you just tried saying, like,

::

I'm sorry?

::

Like, because I don't know... Dude,

::

I don't know what you did, but...

::

but holy shit.

::

Like if they were like,

::

cause this show is really, really good.

::

And they were like, Hey,

::

before your show even comes out,

::

you're out of here.

::

And you just went, I,

::

I have a lot of questions.

::

So he's so he's still

::

supposed to be helping with

::

season two and he'll be overlooking.

::

He tweeted this and tweeted

::

the article on it through

::

his Twitter because he's

::

been heavily communicating

::

with a lot of people through Twitter.

::

He talks to every episode.

::

He like tells people what

::

homework to watch.

::

You can tell he is a fan, fan,

::

fan of X-Men.

::

Right.

::

Sliding into his DMs to see

::

if he'll come on the show.

::

Who, us?

::

Yeah,

::

have we tried asking Bo if he'll come

::

on the show?

::

Let's find out what he did

::

first before we just start

::

sending invitations.

::

You know what?

::

Thanks for being the responsible one.

::

Hey, surprise, surprise.

::

Shocker to everybody.

::

You know what?

::

That tells me that you may

::

have learned a lesson about

::

internet safety, and I appreciate that.

::

I'm going to let him have it.

::

So, Bo DeMaio, if you're listening.

::

I'm going to let him have it.

::

The listeners don't even

::

know what that challenge was about.

::

They have no idea what that is.

::

And I'll never tell them.

::

But Bo,

::

he had tweeted that he will still

::

have some oversight,

::

but it's not as involved as

::

it was in season one.

::

So he specifically was like,

::

I'm not going to be picking

::

the music and picking the blah, blah,

::

blah, blah,

::

blah and doing everything as hands-on,

::

but he still will be a part

::

of the process to some capacity.

::

That's very paraphrasing of

::

what the article said.

::

Yeah.

::

yeah I yeah it was it was I

::

recognize thanks you're

::

right you're right that's

::

my dog yeah yeah uh I don't

::

know I don't know what I

::

don't know what he did I

::

everybody wants I know but

::

here we are the nda is

::

locked tight so here's my

::

thing yeah um unless was

::

anybody else about to say something

::

I love that movie, by the way.

::

I love Go Go Gadget.

::

Here are the things that stood out to me.

::

One,

::

Redemption for the characters, right?

::

And so like from an

::

audience's nitpicky perspective,

::

I think for characters like Jubilee,

::

you get those episodes

::

where you can see her full

::

potential because I think

::

the running joke for

::

anybody who's not a fan, fan,

::

fan and only sees Jubilee

::

in like what we used to see her in,

::

she's a teenager who can

::

make firecrackers, fireworks, right?

::

But then you get this, you kind of get it

::

It's a little bit

::

differently when she's

::

going up against Bastion.

::

And then I saw somebody say, well,

::

I don't think people

::

understand in the comic

::

book she's making things

::

catch fire at a subatomic level.

::

So it's like, oh,

::

it's more than just fireworks.

::

So like with that kind of knowledge,

::

we get such good redemption arcs.

::

I know there's been a lot of

::

back and forth between how

::

Storm was kind of handled

::

in this season and, you know, Bo.

::

Yeah.

::

has been tweeting about like, hey,

::

Black pride or being

::

pro-Black does not mean

::

always having to resort to

::

like some type of violence

::

or something with the

::

characters that they're depicting.

::

And I see, I see,

::

I'm not sure what people

::

were looking for from Storm

::

because all of my Storm moments in this,

::

I thought were executed.

::

Yes,

::

I thought they were executed very well.

::

I'm not sure what some

::

people were looking for from Storm.

::

I know what they were

::

looking for from Bishop,

::

because he kind of went on vacation.

::

He took Nathan to the future and was like,

::

well, I've done my job.

::

He just stayed there.

::

So the Black characters, and in Sunspot,

::

there's back and forth with

::

Sunspot and the color of his skin,

::

how he's supposed to be of

::

darker skin tone,

::

and Afro-Latino was

::

originally a Black character.

::

So I'm seeing a lot of that discourse,

::

but I don't want to talk about that.

::

Right now.

::

I mean, I, I,

::

and I think that that also

::

kind of gets into how this show,

::

I feel like handled so many

::

expectations because I

::

think some of that stuff

::

was going to happen.

::

I'm referring to the storm

::

stuff because like,

::

the thing with X-Men is that

::

it built out such a huge

::

roster of characters.

::

Like when you talk to somebody about X-Men,

::

they're like, Oh, I love blank.

::

Like when Maggie and I met

::

at college and I found out

::

that she watched the nineties X-Men,

::

like this was even before we were dating.

::

Like it was one of the first

::

things we bonded over.

::

And she's like, Oh my gosh,

::

I love Jean gray.

::

And I'm like, you like Jean gray.

::

And like, we had this whole conversation.

::

Cause I, I, I like Cyclops and she's like,

::

you like Cyclops.

::

Oh,

::

oh that's cute what the hell

::

you guys are so fucking

::

cute that's so perfect for

::

each other well and it's

::

it's why I also brought it

::

up in earlier episodes

::

because like I would say

::

like cyclops people like

::

he's such a boy scout he's

::

so boring and I'm like

::

and then we got, you know,

::

his optic blasts.

::

But, like,

::

everybody has a favorite character,

::

right?

::

They have a character they

::

just want to see pop out, right?

::

And so I felt like there was

::

going to be that to some

::

degree in this show of, like, well,

::

I didn't get a whole lot of Nightcrawler,

::

you know?

::

Like, that's what I was waiting for.

::

I do understand there's a

::

bit of a nuance with Storm.

::

However, I feel like, to me, I...

::

I was very satisfied with her arc.

::

She fought a giant owl demon.

::

That was bad as hell.

::

I saw her make a glass tornado.

::

She has so many banging moments.

::

There's three, I'm going to say,

::

splash page moments I can think of.

::

And I think she's just a

::

really strong character.

::

She could...

::

I feel like she could have her own show.

::

That's not the direction

::

they're going to go.

::

But yeah, I get that.

::

But that's one of the

::

troubles with an ensemble

::

piece like this.

::

Everybody's going to want a

::

piece of the pie.

::

And I feel like X-Men 97

::

really like... They were like, no,

::

this is going to be Magneto season.

::

Sorry, everybody.

::

If you came for Wolverine,

::

you get Magneto.

::

That's what I feel like happened,

::

which I feel like was a

::

great way to tell this story.

::

I mean...

::

That went to my second point,

::

which was like,

::

you can tell which

::

characters that the head

::

writers liked or loved.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

This person loved Magneto.

::

Whether it's Bo...

::

Whether it's Bo or whoever

::

is in that writing room,

::

they love that Magneto storyline.

::

And they were very

::

meticulous about how they wrote and drew.

::

You don't just draw a sexy Magneto,

::

you know what I mean?

::

You don't have to do that.

::

But they were obviously

::

trying to make some kind of a point.

::

And you can tell.

::

That that that is one of the

::

moments I knew this show

::

was was growing up was like, oh,

::

you would not see Magneto

::

in a black speedo in the 90s.

::

No, no, no.

::

You wouldn't see that.

::

Like they very much took a

::

lot of love and care with him.

::

Well, and I think to that point,

::

it's I think the other

::

thing that I really

::

appreciated about this is.

::

They always sort of tried to paint,

::

at least I feel like this

::

way in the 90s when you go

::

back and watch that,

::

is that it almost feels,

::

and I'm not trying to take

::

it down a notch, it's just an observation,

::

it feels a little disjointed as a team.

::

They feel disjointed as a

::

team because we never get a

::

chance to explore their relationships.

::

If you look at

::

one of the very early episodes,

::

I think it's night of the Sentinels.

::

Number two, like the second part, part two,

::

where Wolverine just cuts the roof off of,

::

of, of, of Scott's like Jeep.

::

And he goes, yeah, now he's got a sunroof.

::

And like, that's all like,

::

they never say why it happened.

::

They never talk about it.

::

It's just, he's kind of curmudgeon.

::

And what I think where this show is,

::

separated itself and made

::

itself something unique is

::

it said no like these this

::

is a there are fucking

::

complicated relationships

::

here that we need to be

::

aware of and we need to tap

::

into that really really drive home

::

And speak to the way in

::

which all of these

::

characters interact and

::

relate to one another.

::

And it's as simple as when

::

you see Nightcrawler for the first time,

::

how excited he gets to see

::

Rogue and Gambit.

::

Those are not just...

::

friends of his those are

::

family members and he is

::

like he is like the only

::

equivalent I can say is he

::

is an 11 year old when you

::

tell them his cousins are

::

coming over like he is

::

jacked as shit to like see

::

them for the first time

::

like that's all he is I

::

knew exactly that's right

::

And so I appreciated that

::

the complexity of rogue of

::

putting her in this

::

position of Remy has always been there.

::

Gambit has always been there,

::

has loved and supported her, has said,

::

I don't care about the consequences.

::

I just want to be with you.

::

Coupled with someone like

::

Magneto who can give her

::

what she's looking for,

::

which is that sense of

::

physical touch without the

::

risk of doing anyone that

::

she cares about harm.

::

Right.

::

And the dichotomy of what

::

that does to that relationship overall.

::

This is such an interesting

::

way in which it plays out.

::

And they just handled it so masterfully.

::

And it culminates in that

::

acceptance is extinction

::

where Charles is inside

::

Magneto's mind being like,

::

you don't need to do this.

::

yes,

::

you are in a water of terrible things

::

that have happened,

::

but you got to swim through

::

the water to get to the

::

people you care about.

::

We are shaped by our most

::

trying moments into who we

::

are and who we surround ourselves with.

::

It was just so well done.

::

And that's one of the things

::

I really appreciated about

::

the show overall is, yeah,

::

it's about a dude that can

::

shoot lasers out of his eyes.

::

and you know a man who has

::

like can control robots but

::

there's so much more at the

::

like if you dig down deep

::

that like speaks to me as

::

an adult and why I enjoyed

::

it so much oh man yeah

::

you're right like as a 37

::

year old dude I've been

::

around the block a little

::

bit more than when I was

::

eight and I watched this

::

for the first time right

::

right like it's more than a

::

saturday morning

::

cartoon right like we're

::

talking about it's dropping

::

on a wednesday people got

::

full-time jobs this show

::

was specifically made for a

::

certain audience yes you're

::

absolutely right you're not

::

wrong you know what I mean

::

so it's it's that's the

::

thing that stood out to me

::

and the complexities of

::

magneto who's already gone

::

through one he's already

::

gone through the holocaust

::

he he survived that like he

::

is a holocaust survivor yes

::

He already witnessed one genocide.

::

And then you have this character who,

::

which I never,

::

you know that when they

::

hint at it very lightly in

::

the movies and Bryan Singer and it's like,

::

oh, okay, yeah, for sure.

::

And there's like every once in a while,

::

there's a line of like,

::

a needle will never touch my skin again.

::

Like that's a fire line, right?

::

You know what I mean?

::

Right.

::

But it's hard to remember that.

::

But in this show,

::

they constantly remind you

::

that Magneto is not just

::

mad because he's a mutant

::

and he's just mad.

::

This motherfucker has

::

witnessed two genocides and

::

all for just being who he is.

::

He has a reason to be mad.

::

I was born this way and

::

somebody doesn't like me

::

just off the strength of

::

they have the money, resources, finances,

::

power, etc., etc., etc.,

::

to oppress me to um hold me

::

back to hold me down to use

::

whatever tools they got to

::

go against my entire

::

lineage the thing that

::

makes me who I am I didn't

::

do that just once I've done

::

this shit twice they're

::

trying to deny me the

::

future that they're trying

::

to protect for themselves

::

right like and that's and

::

that's the thing that I

::

think is so powerful and

::

I'm so glad that you

::

brought that up marcus is that

::

They could have ignored that.

::

Bo DeMeo could have said,

::

you know what I'm not going to touch?

::

I'm not going to touch God

::

loves man kills.

::

I'm not going to touch that at all.

::

But he was like, nope, not in 2024.

::

I can't not touch it.

::

But what he did is he did it, and Brian,

::

you said this earlier,

::

they took so many pieces of

::

of different storylines and

::

arcs and things like that

::

that have happened and they

::

just jumped like they just

::

jumped right in and they

::

put them together in a way

::

in which that was cohesive

::

and worked and I mean it

::

like the parts where they

::

went on this like acceptance and

::

Tolerance,

::

the idea of tolerance and the idea of,

::

you know,

::

someone willing to fight to

::

protect what they have and

::

that like they handled that

::

so goddamn well that it was

::

just it was really well

::

done and not in a way in which.

::

and this is going to sound weird,

::

if anyone has a thought, I recognize it,

::

but not in a way in which

::

it was so preachy that

::

someone would have gone like, it's woke,

::

get it out of here.

::

Like they did it in a way in

::

which that fits so masterfully, I think,

::

into the story.

::

And I think the best example of that

::

is Rogue and you see Rogue

::

basically in the beginning

::

of the show she's like hey

::

Magneto like we were lovers

::

but like you gotta earn you

::

have to earn your spot here

::

like I love you but you

::

need to earn your spot as

::

an X-Man and like

::

I thought that was

::

incredible and everything

::

with the UN and.

::

Oh yeah.

::

Oh, that all went down.

::

And then you get to Genosha,

::

which like you,

::

that I would say that's a rogue episode.

::

If I had to like,

::

that is probably the rogue episode.

::

And she sees and feels that

::

like Magneto was right.

::

Like they're going to come

::

for us no matter what,

::

no matter what we do.

::

And you like, you see her.

::

You see her becoming

::

grizzled in real time.

::

And I think that is so hard

::

to do without overdoing it.

::

I think it's so hard to do

::

in an animated format.

::

And I think it's so hard to

::

do because these are like

::

maybe 40 minutes.

::

These are not 42 minute, one hour,

::

like HBO dramas, right?

::

Like we have to pack all

::

this in and like 35 minutes.

::

And we have to get Magneto off the board.

::

Like you see Rogue and it makes sense.

::

You're not mad at her.

::

You're not mad at her the

::

next episode when she makes

::

Captain America look like a fool.

::

And I'm a huge Cap fan.

::

I'm like, no, that needed to happen.

::

Rogue showed the world how

::

much the Avengers suck on this.

::

And I'm happy about it.

::

And then they went back to it.

::

Brian,

::

what I love about that is they went

::

back to it.

::

Because while every other

::

fucking hero is out there

::

fighting and trying to defend themselves.

::

Where the fuck are the Avengers?

::

They're in the White House

::

making sure the President's okay.

::

They're making sure they're

::

going to nuke the asteroid.

::

All of them.

::

All of them.

::

Even Black Panther.

::

You know what I mean?

::

What did you just say?

::

I called them douche tips

::

because that's the worst

::

part because that's the

::

part that goes inside.

::

Oh, golly.

::

Wow.

::

I have nothing to say to that.

::

No, thank you.

::

Brian's audible eject.

::

All right.

::

Well, I'll see y'all later.

::

Well, that'll do it for me, everybody.

::

I'm going to go ahead and

::

hit that end stream button.

::

Anyway, step one, read a book.

::

Are you kidding me?

::

I got so much.

::

Are you kidding me?

::

You know me.

::

I ain't tough.

::

I'm resilient.

::

I always make myself sound so persecuted.

::

I love the fact that they're

::

in the Situation Room and

::

Black Panther and Cap are like,

::

I'm a little uncomfortable about this.

::

Iron Man's just like, whatever.

::

I'm here.

::

Send my nukes up.

::

Let's do this.

::

You bought them for me.

::

Go ahead.

::

They got Stark Enterprises

::

right on the side of them motherfuckers.

::

I mean,

::

they're arc reactor powered probably.

::

He doesn't care.

::

He's going to buy more.

::

Like,

::

any like rogue showed that I

::

feel like in such an

::

effective way and not

::

because she threw his

::

shield but like cap just

::

trying to be like we gotta

::

do this by the book and

::

you're like you're telling

::

this to a woman who just

::

lost the love of her life

::

and who's clearly on a

::

rampage by the way like

::

you're standing toe-to-toe

::

with rogue and she just

::

took out the hulkbuster unit like

::

nah man like you're off and

::

I loved how much they

::

showed that and I

::

absolutely believe that is

::

how 1997 Captain America

::

would act and that is one

::

of the enjoyable parts of

::

this so I just I feel like

::

Rogue really brings that

::

point home about how these

::

characters change and how

::

intricate those

::

relationships are and how

::

well that show showed it

::

Okay, I agree.

::

I want to keep going because

::

there's some shit in here

::

that I really want to get off my chest.

::

Number one, Theo James.

::

I'm going to tell y'all now,

::

this motherfucking show is

::

going to win an award for something.

::

I agree.

::

It should win a couple.

::

My preference would be

::

either animation or

::

dialogue or whatever it is

::

that you put in the script

::

because the shit that they were saying...

::

the the monologues that

::

these motherfuckers when

::

they introduce bastion and

::

it's fucking theo james

::

voice and I watched the

::

shit three times I like I'm

::

not bullshitting you I

::

watched it three times that

::

same night and I kept

::

rewinding it because he he

::

reveals himself and said oh

::

well the x-men they've been

::

had a little secret they

::

said that they homeboy got

::

shot but he's really on

::

another planet I'm about to

::

expose him so like you know

::

I mean it's gonna be even

::

playing but I got a secret of my own

::

I've got a Magneto in the tub.

::

Okay.

::

And he's telling Magneto, listen,

::

all you got to do

::

essentially is just shut

::

the fuck up and listen.

::

You are so good at playing

::

your role and doing what

::

you're told to do.

::

Like that's exactly what you

::

were made for.

::

Now smile for the candy camera.

::

I'm going to make this shit.

::

You are talking about the

::

most powerful motherfucker

::

in the world is just not moving,

::

being held hostage by Bastion.

::

That's not the only monologue that, I mean,

::

Gambit, Mon Ami,

::

my name is Gambit Mon Ami, remember it.

::

Nobody has ever...

::

that's a callback to the

::

older show but it hits

::

significantly different in

::

the context of which they

::

set it up and I think oh

::

yeah that's the beauty of

::

the show is like it's not

::

just we're not just turning

::

this like now here's what I

::

say I did try to re-watch

::

x-men the originals like a

::

long time ago it's a lot of

::

filler episodes in that

::

motherfucker or at least

::

feels like filler they told

::

every possible offshoot

::

they went yes well I know

::

we just did one where they

::

battle sentinels

::

I don't know.

::

What if they just went to the Savage Land?

::

And they were like, why?

::

I don't know, because why not?

::

There's an episode where Wolverine,

::

I believe, goes to church.

::

And Jubilee's like,

::

why don't you go to church?

::

And he's like, kid,

::

I don't got time for church.

::

That's not what I do.

::

I got claws.

::

What does claws have to do with church?

::

I got claws.

::

Look, bub.

::

I would say season one

::

through three of the

::

original series does it the least,

::

but then seasons four and

::

five are just like, y'all, it's bonkers.

::

I love X-Men.

::

Remember when Spider-Man

::

randomly shows up?

::

It's bonkers.

::

That was appointment television.

::

I looked at a TV guide.

::

I made sure I wasn't missing

::

that for anything.

::

Hey, Google,

::

show me pictures of Spider-Man.

::

it's a matter of time

::

without safe search I'm

::

just saying but yeah like

::

there was no filler no none

::

they cut the fat and so I

::

just want to say Theo James

::

expect your award you need something I

::

cast him for something else

::

like voice acting because I

::

don't know why I ain't

::

heard him voice act before

::

but that motherfucker got

::

voice made of butter and

::

that's all I know I mean he

::

pops up in a lot of stuff

::

he was in the White Lotus

::

he was in the Divergent

::

franchise he was also in

::

the Gentleman series on Netflix

::

Yup, and he did voice work for The Witcher,

::

Nightmare of the Wolf.

::

We can give you the Films in

::

Black and White Tip of the

::

Hat Award for great voice acting.

::

Yes, congratulations.

::

I'm happy to lock that in.

::

I invented it up right now.

::

B.O.

::

James,

::

congratulations on winning the Tip

::

of the Hat Award.

::

I solemnly swear I won't

::

talk about anything gross if you don't.

::

I'm going to be honest.

::

It doesn't sound great the

::

way y'all keep saying tip, but like, yeah,

::

for sure.

::

Like the emphasis on that.

::

Right.

::

Anyway, I also love this.

::

I also loved my favorite

::

part about this entire series,

::

especially the episode.

::

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

::

You see, I appreciate it.

::

So that's not a lot of hate.

::

Not a lot of hate,

::

just the tip of the hate.

::

Just the tip of the hate.

::

Just the tip of the hate award.

::

Not full hate, but just the tip.

::

Look,

::

that's what happens when I'm typing fast,

::

okay?

::

This is what happens.

::

Tip of the hate.

::

Carry on, Marcus.

::

Just the tip, just a little bit of it.

::

I like the fact that mutants,

::

we get to see people with powers,

::

mutants,

::

Doing regular,

::

I want to make sure I'm

::

saying the right shit, regular life shit,

::

because I don't want to say normal,

::

right?

::

Because then that says that

::

they're not normal.

::

But just doing regular life shit.

::

For example, when they're on Genosha,

::

they have a scene where

::

they're talking about the

::

apples and nightcrawls, talking about, oh,

::

yeah, it's like, oh,

::

they're kind of taxing for the apples,

::

but they say, hey,

::

that comes with it because

::

this is what comes with it.

::

There's kids that are using

::

their powers and they're breakdancing.

::

Like, yes, they're dancing, breakdancing,

::

they're singing.

::

Even Professor X,

::

when he has his vision of

::

everything that happened on Genosha,

::

he says, oh,

::

they were he said they were dancing,

::

drinking,

::

making love like this is regular

::

life shit that we get to

::

see like mutants do.

::

And I feel like that is such

::

an essential piece to Genosha.

::

humanizing quote unquote

::

like what we're looking at

::

because to see them just

::

enjoying themselves before

::

the genocide actually

::

happened says oh that could

::

have been me like if you

::

are empathetic that's a

::

great point that's a great

::

yes and so that's why that

::

episode made me cry because

::

I'm like I'm in tears

::

watching this fucking

::

happening because I'm like

::

I guess it's as a black man, obviously,

::

I don't even want to say

::

that because of where we live in.

::

I will say this with a grain of salt.

::

Say it.

::

We support you, man.

::

No, no.

::

It's more like I don't ever

::

want to go to the extremes, right?

::

This is animation.

::

This is TV.

::

But everything has a little

::

bit of reality to it.

::

The only thing I could do

::

was put myself into the

::

shoes of if somebody was to

::

draw us to a place.

::

Right.

::

And say all black people,

::

we're going back to Africa.

::

OK, we're going back to Africa.

::

We don't like the way we're being treated.

::

We don't go back to Africa.

::

And then something was to

::

happen where they got us

::

all in the same place or a large.

::

percentage of us in the same

::

place where they could

::

execute something like this

::

just off the strength of being black.

::

We got them exactly where we want them.

::

And this is the perfect time to strike.

::

It's hard to think out loud

::

that somebody wouldn't have that thought,

::

right?

::

I totally agree.

::

That's not an option in

::

people's minds to be like,

::

I wish that we could do that too.

::

Insert whatever.

::

Not just black people.

::

Insert whoever they just

::

deem is not worthy.

::

It's not hard for my brain

::

to draw similarities

::

between Genosha and Tulsa, Oklahoma.

::

Right.

::

Black Wall Street.

::

Not hard.

::

No,

::

and I was thinking about Pulse Nightclub,

::

too.

::

Yes, yes.

::

I mean, they're dancing.

::

Like, they're not even, like,

::

Magneto's not even having

::

Asteroid M hover over anything.

::

They're literally just having a good time,

::

and then... They're having

::

the Hellfire Gallop.

::

That's it.

::

Right.

::

I think Bo mentioned that

::

that was the reference in that episode.

::

He did.

::

Wow.

::

Okay, well, he nailed it.

::

Yes, that was a great call-out, Brian.

::

But again, absolutely right.

::

This is the life that we see around us,

::

and you cannot tell me that

::

these smaller versions of

::

nobody's going to put us...

::

We don't have the capacity

::

to put us all on a fucking island,

::

but if we're all in a

::

fucking nightclub or

::

something like that and

::

somebody decides they want

::

to shoot it up or harm

::

everybody in there or blow

::

up the building, like...

::

I think that's why Charles'

::

words of they were dancing,

::

they were living, they were making love,

::

they were being themselves.

::

I think that that's why it's

::

so powerful because if you

::

draw the similarity,

::

it's wherever someone is

::

truly being themselves and

::

something like this happens.

::

The most vulnerable.

::

That's why it's so awful.

::

Like it's awful on its face.

::

Right.

::

Like, and that's,

::

I think where the reporter tries to play,

::

I think that's where beast

::

gets really frustrated with the reporter.

::

Like in that episode where

::

they're walking through is

::

the reporter tries to say like,

::

Yeah, this is really tough.

::

Look at all this death.

::

And Beast is like, you don't get it.

::

This isn't just people died.

::

They were not bothering anyone.

::

We were just being ourselves

::

in a place where we didn't

::

have to worry about being tolerated.

::

Right.

::

it was still taken away from us.

::

Like, and so I think that that,

::

those moments are, I think really,

::

really important to sort of

::

like focus on.

::

So I, I, Brian Marcus,

::

I appreciate the fact that

::

you don't want to like take

::

it to the extreme, but again,

::

that has always been.

::

And it's kind of like what I

::

was trying to get to earlier.

::

Like that's always been an

::

element of X-Men.

::

Like that's always been an element of,

::

you know, these are, they are,

::

they are written this way for a reason.

::

Yeah.

::

Well, and I think, yeah, like Marcus,

::

I definitely want you to

::

feel like you can say that.

::

Cause I think,

::

I think that metaphor is apt

::

and I feel like watching

::

and talking about this show

::

and how it's progressed to like, I mean,

::

see a lot of where I got

::

some of my politics even at

::

eight or nine years old

::

like I knew from watching

::

this uh in the 90s like

::

something was off like

::

right like oh like I'm

::

seeing the concepts as

::

they're played out here and

::

then I go into the real

::

world and it's eerily

::

similar huh how about that

::

and to now grow up with it

::

and then be at this age of

::

a 30 something year old man

::

and then just see it and have that,

::

have that type of emotional

::

impact of like some stuff

::

has really changed,

::

but other stuff really has like,

::

and I don't know,

::

it was just kind of this loss of,

::

it just kind of felt that

::

Genosha episode and what

::

you're talking about, Marcus,

::

it just kind of felt like it was,

::

the show was acknowledging

::

the audience of like, we get it.

::

You've seen stuff and this

::

show is going to try to grapple with it.

::

That's,

::

that's what it felt like for me.

::

So like,

::

even though it was terrible and I

::

teared up during remember it,

::

it was just kind of this like, yeah,

::

like we're grown up now,

::

like this stuff happens and

::

how we react to it matters,

::

which is why I think the

::

back half of this season

::

really connected with me on

::

a lot of levels,

::

whether it's rogue going on a rampage,

::

Or Jean being like, no,

::

I'm going to tap into the

::

Phoenix Forest to save my

::

son because I can't have

::

another bad thing happen to me, right?

::

Relatable energy.

::

I can relate to that in my age now.

::

Yeah.

::

I want to be cognizant of where we're at.

::

Are there other points that

::

you all want to make before I pivot to my,

::

you know,

::

towards the end of the... Before

::

we start bringing it home?

::

Yeah.

::

I have one more question in the chamber,

::

but I want to be respectful

::

if you had anything else.

::

I don't even know where you start,

::

to be honest.

::

It's...

::

Let me look.

::

I have a whole thing.

::

Go ahead, Marcus.

::

Just while you look it up,

::

I appreciate not always pairing.

::

Thank you for giving me

::

enough of everybody.

::

It wasn't too much Nightcrawler.

::

There was just enough.

::

But also,

::

thank you for the pairing of

::

Nightcrawler and Wolverine

::

and things I never thought I would see.

::

Or Wolverine falling from

::

the sky and doing this

::

adamantium tornado spin

::

with the fucking claws and like...

::

Kurt not just teleporting

::

all over the place, but he has a sword.

::

That's an essential part to who he is.

::

And non-cliche women-led characters.

::

As far as I could tell,

::

they all had some depth.

::

The show is about love,

::

so maybe the Bechdel test

::

doesn't really pass here.

::

But

::

No, it does.

::

Does it?

::

Oh, okay.

::

It's first episode.

::

Storm and Jean, I'm pretty sure.

::

No, it's the second episode.

::

I take it back.

::

It's the second episode for sure.

::

I think it happens in the first episode,

::

but I don't have the

::

evidence at the moment.

::

But Storm and Jean have a moment.

::

Where they're just only

::

talking to each other, not about a man.

::

I love that because I've

::

never thought about Storm

::

and Jean being sisters.

::

Like best friends.

::

Yeah, never in my life.

::

But yeah, of course,

::

that makes a lot of sense.

::

So I just enjoy the pairing

::

of complex characters in

::

different lights.

::

that that that mind the

::

weather weather your mind

::

exchange was fucking

::

brilliant I thought it was

::

good I thought that was so

::

good brilliant I mean that

::

episode nine it like it it

::

caught it checked all of my

::

like let's go boxes we got

::

a blackbird blowing up we

::

got people jumping out of

::

the blackbird we got

::

somebody going ham with an

::

energy blast we got

::

sentinels falling it was

::

like yep this checks it all

::

good job everybody he's

::

gonna be upset that's the

::

third blackboard this is the

::

That was an incredible line.

::

My surplus thoughts were the

::

animation on this was super smooth.

::

I feel like Invincible,

::

it's going to be inevitable.

::

It's going to be compared to

::

Invincible on Amazon Prime.

::

I honestly think that's fine.

::

That's incredible company to have.

::

All of these combat scenes

::

are masterfully done.

::

The Wolverine Nightcrawler one,

::

the first Sentinel exchange

::

in the first episode,

::

just it's so buttery smooth.

::

It is so, so, so good.

::

My other surplus thought

::

here was I really enjoyed,

::

I just enjoyed how they

::

focused on Jubilee.

::

And I thought the the Matendo episode,

::

while silly,

::

I feel like that if you want

::

to reference something overtly nostalgic,

::

like the X-Men 90s beat

::

them up arcade game,

::

like that's how you do it.

::

Like, yeah,

::

like you you intertwine it with

::

that character's emotional beats.

::

And then if you need to add

::

that outside element.

::

to bring it home and I

::

thought the thematic like

::

connections there were

::

amazing and I honestly I

::

don't it's very hard for me

::

to see a show pull off

::

something like that if they

::

were like hey you remember

::

this I can't even think of

::

another example because I

::

don't think a show could pull it off like

::

But anyway,

::

the last thing I wanted to mention was,

::

I think,

::

in the last episode in the finale,

::

when at this point you're

::

like Magneto was right.

::

And like,

::

I was struggling with that

::

because I was like,

::

is that where the show wants us to go?

::

And maybe, maybe it is like maybe we've.

::

Maybe we have moved the

::

spectrum of what we see so

::

far off the base that

::

Magneto is right after all these years.

::

It's very hard to disagree

::

with him after these past 25 years.

::

It's very difficult.

::

um and I love the fact that

::

basically bastion's like

::

they're never gonna love

::

you like what are you doing

::

like they don't want any of

::

this they don't they have

::

you as babies and they

::

don't want you like what's

::

your deal and cyclops is

::

like he legit tries to

::

follow the golden path to

::

use another dune reference

::

and he's like no like we

::

have to stop we have to

::

stop this fighting like

::

this is mad like I can't

::

remember exactly what he

::

says but he's like we we

::

have to try he tells him

::

all the stand down

::

I feel, to me,

::

that is the essence of X-Men.

::

Stuff's bad.

::

Stuff's not great, but we have to try.

::

No matter what happens,

::

we have to make that effort.

::

We have to believe that we

::

can just talk it out.

::

I love the fact it's depressing,

::

but I love the fact that Bastion's like,

::

No.

::

Like, I would never... I'd never join you.

::

I'd actually destroy myself

::

before I'd even think of allying with you,

::

which I feel like is such a

::

brutal metaphor for some of

::

the things that we encounter in our life.

::

That you will meet people

::

like this who hate

::

themselves and want to

::

destroy everything around them.

::

And even when you stick out your hand,

::

they will choose to destroy

::

themselves and everyone

::

around them rather than do the work.

::

Or even...

::

And, like,

::

just letting go of that person

::

is acceptable.

::

And that's okay.

::

But at least you tried.

::

And I feel like that was done really well.

::

Because it honored all of Magneto's, like,

::

the spirit of his character,

::

which he made valid points.

::

And I will stick by that for

::

as long as I live.

::

But you also had Bastion, who...

::

You can't convince him.

::

You can't convince everybody.

::

And that's okay.

::

Let them go.

::

They're never going to be that person.

::

Some people are just so,

::

they have convinced

::

themselves of something so

::

much that it's actually

::

better to let them go.

::

Like, exactly.

::

Now,

::

the metaphor here was a giant black hole.

::

Don't throw people into a black hole.

::

But like, I mean, that's the idea, right?

::

You just, you have to let this go.

::

And I thought that was really well done.

::

Yeah, it was incredible.

::

That was very, very well done.

::

Sorry, before Doug moves on,

::

just one more thing.

::

The speech that – I forgot her name,

::

but she – The UN delegate.

::

Yep.

::

And she – Nancy, for some reason,

::

is coming to my mind.

::

I don't think that's right.

::

I'll look it up.

::

You're good.

::

Keep going.

::

She gives this speech and

::

she's explaining to Bastion

::

why she betrayed him.

::

This was my favorite speech

::

in the whole series.

::

And she says, he says, you know, nobody,

::

she said,

::

nobody's really shocked that I

::

let Magneto go.

::

Nobody's shocked by this.

::

I think, in fact, everybody saw it coming.

::

And she says, you know,

::

because she's looking at Magneto.

::

She sees the Holocaust number on his arm.

::

She's trying to tell him,

::

you haven't spoken since Genosha.

::

Like, you have to say something.

::

Say something to me.

::

I'm sorry.

::

I didn't know that this was happening.

::

And the other bigger piece

::

is Bastion is also working

::

with other people.

::

villains and corporations

::

around the world to make

::

this happen is what it's

::

hinted at too as well so

::

like dr doom is in there

::

and you see a lot of uh I

::

um baron what is his name

::

not baron baron zemo um is

::

also is also in cahoots

::

with a whole bunch of other people

::

But she says there was this

::

familiar feeling.

::

And she said,

::

you don't want to know the

::

worst part about it all.

::

Nobody's shocked at our freedom.

::

But the worst part about it

::

all is there was this

::

familiar feeling when

::

you're watching everything

::

happen on Genosha.

::

And she said,

::

it's nothing but this eerie thought.

::

And it's something that you

::

can't fucking shake.

::

And she said,

::

it was the most annoying shit

::

in the world.

::

And it was the only thought

::

any sane person can fucking

::

have when witnessing a fucking genocide.

::

And it's the thought that

::

Magneto was right.

::

I just thought that that

::

lead up was pretty.

::

It was Valerie Cooper.

::

Thanks, Brian.

::

Yeah, no problem.

::

That, I think,

::

is probably the most

::

powerful monologue in the entire show.

::

I just raved about episode 10,

::

but that's it.

::

That is it,

::

and it connects on every level.

::

It fires on every cylinder.

::

It explains the season as a whole.

::

I think that that captured everything.

::

Again,

::

I think what the series did

::

masterfully...

::

is it started out so slow

::

that it started out so slow

::

and I'm not saying that as

::

a dig like I'm saying it as

::

a fact like it started out

::

like a you know you kind of you

::

And you're like, okay, cool.

::

I'm reliving some stuff.

::

I'm seeing some people fight.

::

And it had this fucking

::

thing where like you got to

::

episode four and you were

::

already hooked and you were like,

::

Oh shit.

::

Like it was just,

::

it had this moment that

::

like you were in it and like,

::

fully in it with that attack

::

on genosha and you were

::

like wait what like I

::

thought this was a fun show

::

like and that's I think

::

that that's what it did so

::

well yeah especially

::

because if I'm not mistaken

::

the jubilee episode was

::

right before it so it's a high high

::

It's assembled itself.

::

They assembled the way in

::

which it flowed to be so like,

::

you're going to get real

::

comfortable and then you're

::

going to be real uncomfortable,

::

but you're going to be so

::

hooked on what's happening

::

here that you're not going

::

to want to look away.

::

and I think to your point

::

Doug like it kind of even

::

brings in the soap opera

::

vibes of like we're X-Men

::

stuff's gonna happen right

::

but like that first episode

::

is like let's go beat up

::

some Sentinels and I was

::

there like ready to be a

::

mutant being like heck yeah

::

that's what I signed up for let's go pick

::

their ass and then like yeah

::

you get to episode two and

::

it's like magneto's here

::

and three is fire made

::

flesh and you're like oh no

::

a clone and then you get

::

the nintendo episode so

::

those four episodes you're

::

like I know the vibe of

::

this show there's gonna be

::

clones I know what this is

::

jubilee's trapped in a

::

video game and then episode

::

five's like gambit is dead

::

And not coming back.

::

And not coming back.

::

Yeah, like, no, no.

::

He's dead, dead.

::

And everybody's like, yeah, yeah,

::

but Cable's there.

::

He's going to go back in time, right?

::

And everybody's like, no, no, no.

::

And that's when Cable's like, I can't.

::

And you're like,

::

what do you mean you can't?

::

What do you mean you can't?

::

I can't fix it.

::

And that rogue-ass whooping was so good,

::

man.

::

Oh, yeah.

::

Here's the last thing I wanted to bring up,

::

which is obviously like

::

we're speculating season two, like,

::

you know,

::

and obviously Disney has asked

::

fans to be patient as they

::

put like finishing touches on season two.

::

We are clearly going to get some, you know,

::

apocalypse for the, for the, you know,

::

for the ending but like yeah

::

spoiler warning for the

::

ending but like we're

::

obviously gonna get like

::

apocalypse for season two

::

and we're going oh yeah

::

yeah no don't no get that

::

fucking shit out of there

::

he stay his big bald ass

::

somewhere else Dwayne

::

Johnson is not apocalypse

::

no I do not want that but

::

anyway like I we're gonna

::

get something with that and

::

it's gonna be something

::

time-oriented mm-hmm

::

Anybody want to maybe

::

speculate or anybody want

::

to just sort of say what's

::

something maybe they hope?

::

I don't want to do too much

::

speculation theater,

::

but maybe a fun prediction

::

if you had one.

::

My fun prediction that I

::

feel so strongly about is I

::

feel like this is...

::

I feel like it's a bait and switch.

::

They're like, oh no,

::

they're stuck in time.

::

And then it's going to be

::

resolved by the end of the first episode.

::

They're only going to be

::

there for a hot second and

::

they're going to get pulled back.

::

And then they're going to

::

have to make sense between

::

the two teams of what did we just see?

::

Did we change anything?

::

What does that look like?

::

Because to me, based on the ending,

::

we're going to come back to

::

Apocalypse in the present

::

and Gambit being one of the horsemen.

::

So I feel like it's going to

::

be short-lived.

::

I feel like their time

::

travel escapade is going to

::

be short-lived.

::

That's my bold prediction.

::

I saw this online,

::

so zero credit to me at all

::

because I did not know this.

::

There is a split-off series

::

called Cyclops and the Phoenix.

::

It's like a mini-series of

::

them going back and raising

::

the young Cable, essentially.

::

It has something to do with

::

them traveling back in time.

::

It seems like it's a direct pool of

::

Like from that miniseries run.

::

No way.

::

Cool.

::

Yeah, it made me really want to read up,

::

read on that because I'm

::

interested in what direction they go.

::

Going Apocalypse is, they saved Apocalypse,

::

like the younger version of

::

himself when they go back in time.

::

We also don't know where

::

Wolverine and Storm and Bastion,

::

question mark, like are.

::

um that's a good point yeah

::

because they all I don't

::

know where the fuck they

::

went so my speculation is

::

going to be I definitely

::

think they resolve this

::

you'll get some of that

::

time with like a young

::

cable with cyclops and gene

::

and get to see him be a kid

::

and then kind of go back

::

and they get to live in

::

that time of like raising

::

him or protecting him in

::

that kind of way yeah I

::

think that this next part

::

because we don't know where

::

magneto is either so there's that

::

Yeah, Magneto, Wolverine,

::

Professor X. Oh no, wait,

::

we do know we're Professor

::

X. Professor X and Magneto

::

are still in the same time.

::

Magneto's the one that

::

pulled all of their swords

::

away from them as they were

::

trying to kill Apocalypse.

::

Okay, so it's just Wolverine and Storm.

::

Wolverine, Storm, Forge, now Bishop.

::

Also enjoyed that callback, by the way,

::

to Days of Future Past when

::

Forge had the giant board

::

where everybody was.

::

That was so good.

::

I think having a Cyclops and Phoenix...

::

Honestly, I would really enjoy that.

::

Because I feel like they get

::

cut off from really diving

::

deep into their

::

relationship a lot of the time.

::

Which,

::

did anybody else notice that Cyclops

::

was talking to Wolverine and he's like,

::

you can't die.

::

You can't do this to her.

::

I was like, that man knows.

::

He knows.

::

I appreciate it.

::

He knows.

::

Oddly fine with it.

::

Um, here's what I'm going to say.

::

I do think that they're there.

::

I mean, they could,

::

there's a couple of ways in

::

which I think they could do it.

::

They could pull directly

::

from the age of apocalypse comic book,

::

like if they want to do and

::

in legions somehow

::

responsible because that is

::

the only person that is a

::

child of Charles Xavier,

::

which they've never touched on.

::

And, um,

::

For those that don't know,

::

Legion is the son of Charles Xavier,

::

and he usually has a hard

::

time because he's so many

::

different – he has schizophrenia.

::

And he has so many different personalities,

::

and different elements of

::

his mutation are split off

::

into all of his different personalities.

::

That's why he's never able

::

to be so strong.

::

Well,

::

in the prequel to the Age of

::

Apocalypse storyline called

::

Legion Quest –

::

all of his personalities are

::

consolidated into one and he becomes the,

::

like the most powerful

::

mutant on the planet.

::

And essentially what he does

::

is he creates a timeline

::

where Xavier never existed

::

and apocalypse is in control.

::

Oh, fuck.

::

Why would you do that?

::

Jesus Christ.

::

Why would you do that?

::

It's actually really more

::

psychological than that, where he's like,

::

well,

::

I did it because I created a world

::

my dad never could.

::

I don't hate them.

::

I love them so much.

::

I created a world where

::

there's a mutant in charge

::

and everybody gets to live in harmony,

::

but what they sacrifice for that harmony.

::

So I'm still reading that event.

::

If you remember a few

::

episodes ago where my

::

addiction came back.

::

It's okay.

::

I'm reading through that

::

event and the Legion Quest

::

storyline is fucking wild.

::

So stay tuned.

::

I might have more

::

information on how we get here.

::

But that's my prediction.

::

Because that's how you could

::

resolve it really quick.

::

I don't have an answer.

::

I realize I didn't really

::

give an answer for what I predict.

::

I think I have a concern.

::

What's that?

::

My only concern is that

::

these villains are very OP.

::

You are not talking about

::

some we can blast them and

::

then shut them down.

::

Bastion,

::

only reason that these

::

motherfuckers beat Bastion

::

was because they had to

::

damn near sacrifice everything.

::

Apocalypse ain't no fucking joke either.

::

I imagine Apocalypse is a

::

step up from Bastion

::

because he's just... That's Apocalypse.

::

So how do you introduce

::

these OP villains and how

::

do you... What is the

::

redemption for Charles Xavier?

::

Because at the end of the day,

::

at its most simplistic level of reading,

::

Charles is the good guy.

::

He is the one and the leader

::

of the X-Men that people know.

::

He's the bald-headed

::

scallywag that brings them together.

::

We got all this with Magneto,

::

but really didn't get a lot

::

of meat and potatoes with Charles and

::

where, where does he go from, you know,

::

from this point now, like,

::

you know how much it changed.

::

So I'm kind of interested in

::

seeing that journey that they give him.

::

yeah that's why I think

::

legion could be interesting

::

because charles would have

::

to deal with something that

::

he created that wasn't

::

positive got it oh he would

::

have to look at that

::

straight in the face and

::

you'd have to feel like how

::

do I manage this like how

::

do I which could be

::

interesting especially

::

since it's clear that the

::

writers like to take like

::

these like family dynamics

::

and play with them a little

::

bit you could do something

::

with that I don't want to

::

get too into that rabbit

::

hole because usually what

::

happens when I go too far

::

down I'm usually wrong but

::

I could see that being an

::

element given all the

::

context clues I have.

::

Yeah.

::

I mean,

::

there's a lot of ways they could go

::

with it.

::

I'm really curious to see

::

what the product of this is

::

without Bo DeMaio in the same role.

::

I'm looking at Mason's comment.

::

Everything feels lusty.

::

Bring Asghar's rogue holding

::

camp's shield.

::

Love Marcus' mama.

::

Mimi made a sentence out of

::

all of our taglines.

::

That's impressive.

::

I like it.

::

I like it.

::

So I'm really curious.

::

I'm really curious to see

::

how this turns out without

::

him in the position that he had.

::

So I'm a little nervous,

::

but I also feel like you

::

know what everybody liked.

::

So I don't know.

::

I'm high on it.

::

I'm positive about it.

::

So I hope they can do it again.

::

Yeah, for sure.

::

Gentlemen,

::

anything that you all would like

::

to plug this week?

::

Heck yeah.

::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

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::

There it is.

::

Marcus, what do you got?

::

Follow the mantra, never offended,

::

always humble,

::

no matter how many times

::

your friends pick on you.

::

That's going to be a lot.

::

We're going to do that a lot.

::

We're going to do that a lot.

::

That's what's going to happen.

::

You did, yeah.

::

Follow the mantra, never offended,

::

always humble.

::

Yes,

::

and I'm proud of you for doing that

::

despite picking on you.

::

I'm proud of you for that.

::

Uh...

::

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::

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::

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::

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::

Gentlemen,

::

we have a three-step process to success.

::

Brian,

::

lay us down with that funky first step,

::

sir.

::

hello my funky first step is

::

to read a book and I'm

::

telling you if you if

::

you're like brian I'm not

::

flush with cash I can't buy

::

books what am I a british

::

parliamentarian you know

::

what go to your library

::

this is me telling you go

::

to your library go get a

::

book and and read it we

::

just talked about x-men for

::

like almost an hour and a

::

half go get some x-men

::

comics go go read go read

::

things that energize you

::

and that excite you read a book

::

Yeah, please do.

::

Marcus,

::

lay us down with that soulful second step,

::

sir.

::

You want to make sure that you're soulful?

::

Make sure you drink some water?

::

I got chunky.

::

Oh, okay, cool.

::

All right, cool.

::

First step, soulful second step.

::

Guess what the third one's going to be?

::

Actually, I don't know.

::

It's getting hot outside.

::

I'm traveling Monday,

::

so I won't be here to pot.

::

We are taking next week off,

::

so none of us will be here to pot.

::

You turkeys will have to

::

deal with us and avoid in your life.

::

Gobble, gobble.

::

Just drink some water.

::

Just drink some water.

::

Hey,

::

I want to give you a tasteful third step.

::

Hey, look, wash your ass.

::

It's important that you do that.

::

It's important you do it.

::

Look, we're in two shower season.

::

You might go outside.

::

It's starting to get humid.

::

So you're going to go

::

outside in the morning.

::

You're going to get up.

::

You're going to shower.

::

Get yourself fresh and ready for the day.

::

Then you're going to go out

::

and you're going to sweat all day.

::

Don't don't try to undo that

::

with the shower in the morning.

::

Don't get your sheets all

::

stinky with the with the

::

sweat of the day.

::

Just wash your ass and your

::

legs and your feet and the

::

bottoms of your feet.

::

You might go outside and

::

walk around in the grass.

::

You bring that inside.

::

Wash the bottoms of your feet, y'all.

::

Yeah.

::

So that does us.

::

for this week's episode.

::

We will not be back with

::

another tremendous episode.

::

In fact,

::

this is the last time for at least

::

three weeks that you will

::

not see this conglomeration

::

of three people.

::

Because when we get back

::

after Memorial Day,

::

it's a Doug and Brian classic.

::

And then after that,

::

it's a Doug and Marcus classic.

::

Oh, gee.

::

So it's a lot of me,

::

but not a lot of the three.

::

So you're going to have to

::

deal with it as we kind of go from there.

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Mark's going to have to trade notes,

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make sure we're keeping

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Doug on track here.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know that as late as possible.

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It's fucking typical.

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They're going to have their

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little chat and be like,

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what'd he say to you this morning?

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That's what he said to me.

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That's going to be how it goes.

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Yeah, GP taint.

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That's another level.

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But anyway, that's what we got.

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So enjoy your Memorial Day weekend.

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Have yourself a steak and a

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beer or a beverage of your choice.

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Enjoy your time with family.

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But we'll be back after that.

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And we're looking forward to it.

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But until then, until then,

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I forgot what I usually said.

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But anyway, enjoy yourself.

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And the between time.

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Stay safe, stay healthy.

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We love y'all.

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We appreciate y'all.

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We'll catch y'all in two weeks.

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I'm playing music.

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Take us out.

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Not what I expected.

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I dig it.

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I've tried to switch it up

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every once in a while.

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I like it.

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It's like my trance music

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when I'm typing emails.

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Really?

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Yes.

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Ryan, I don't even listen to the music.

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I just am like, yep, that's right.

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You might be a psycho fan, though.

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