Monica Wisdom dives deep into the theme of empowerment for Black women in the context of the upcoming presidential race, highlighting the importance of owning their power and representation in leadership.

She reflects on the significant role Black women played in the 2020 election, emphasizing how their collective voice has opened doors and created opportunities, such as having Kamala Harris as a presidential candidate. The conversation touches on the challenges still faced, including threats to affirmative action and the need for better representation in various sectors.

Monica urges listeners to critically evaluate their choices in the political landscape and consider the impact these decisions will have on future generations.

She concludes by encouraging everyone to take an active role in shaping their communities and supporting candidates who genuinely represent their interests and values.

Takeaways:

• Black women are increasingly gaining power and visibility in politics, as exemplified by Kamala Harris's candidacy.
• The conversations around Kamala Harris's identity reflect broader societal perceptions of race and representation.
• Black women play a crucial role in shaping political agendas and advocating for their communities.
• Empowerment comes from recognizing our strength and challenging the narratives that tell us otherwise.
• Investing in HBCUs and supporting Black-led initiatives is vital for community growth.
• The importance of doing thorough research before making political decisions cannot be overstated.

Links referenced in this episode:

• www.blackwomenamplified.com

Companies mentioned in this episode:

• Amazon
• Louis Vuitton
• Saks Fifth Avenue
• Neiman Marcus
• Bloomberg

Hello, black women amplified family.

It is your girl, Monica wisdom.

And today we are just going to have a simple little chat, a little sidebar conversation about what's going on in black girl magic life.

I hope that you've had an opportunity to hear our latest interviews in season four of the podcast.

Nicki Mae, who wrote the book Walhalla, is here to talk about her second book, and Nicole Glover is here joining us to talk about her third book.

And it was released.

Both episodes were released Thursday and the Thursday before both very different writers.

Nikki Mae joined us from England and shared her nigerian and anglo heritage, and her characters in the book match who she is.

So she puts herself in her books.

And then Nicole is a fantasy writer who writes a series called murder and magic.

So she puts together history with kind of I kind of say her books are like, let's say Lovecraft country and Harry Potter are friends and these are her books.

So I was able to read her book.

So she has a great series.

Her concepts are great, and we go deep into both of them.

So if you're interested in becoming an author, writing your story and the whole writing process, you know, I get all in their business.

So we talk about their writing process, how they got signed, you know, what got them to be a signed author with a major publishing house.

Because as you know, the publishing houses are like, there's, you know, a diminishing of black authors and behind the scenes people, you know, behind the scenes people getting less and less black people behind the scenes.

And, you know, it's all because of this.

Well, let's talk about it, right?

So welcome to the sidebar conversation and just make sure you get a chance to listen to those episodes plus previous episodes.

If you're new to the podcast, welcome.

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There's conversations about empowerment and confidence and things like that.

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We have entrepreneurs on here who are you know, very good at what they do, what they do.

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There's Athena, who is a shamanous.

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There's a podcast that is positive, and we have beautiful conversations with and about black women.

Let me take a little sip of my water.

I've gotten to the stage in my life where I really love water.

You remember being a kid, and water was like torture, except when you were running around outside drinking from the water hose.

Let's talk about that ice cold water right out of the freezer.

My new favorite thing today, I want to talk about black women in power.

Black women in power.

We have.

We're having lots of conversation about a presidential race, and black women are having lots of conversations because there is a black, west indian, south asian woman who is our presidential candidate.

If you're a Democrat, if you're not a Democrat, she's not your presidential candidate.

She is a presidential candidate.

But we have Kamala Harris, who's running for president of the United States.

And then she became her.

She became his vice presidential candidate.

And this whole podcast is not about politics.

So we're going to get into it.

We'll get into that in a second.

But I just want everybody to know that there is, the seats of the table are opening up, even though there are people coming after us getting rid of affirmative action, which.

And so companies are getting rid of their die programs.

People are getting rid of their whole departments that deal with it.

And so there's no.

So there's no.

If a company's for it, they are, like, going full force.

If a company is not for it, they're nothing.

So it's clear on who is who.

Now, here's the thing.

What they're saying to us is you can't depend on us anymore to do the right thing.

So we have to make different choices.

Now, as black women, we know that we're the least protected.

Malcolm X talked about it, and it has not changed.

The most disrespected in the community.

But here's the duality of that.

We are.

I just did a podcast interview with shaping freedom, a podcast, and it's gonna come out.

I don't know when it's gonna come out, but we both interviewed each other on each other's podcasts.

But I'm excited about that.

That's something else I'm gonna talk about later.

Not today, but soon.

But I talked about how it's important for us to know our power.

And here's the thing.

Here's the thing about oppression.

When people oppress you, it's not because they think you're weak.

It's because they know you're strong.

But they use so many different psychological tactics to make you believe that you're not enough, that you begin to believe that you're not enough.

So our internal conversations become echoes of what society is telling us, what school is telling us, what the media is telling us about ourselves.

So we internalize that conversation so much that it becomes how we think about ourselves.

But the reality is, and let's just get real raw about this, if we weren't the standard of beauty, there would be no bbls.

If we were not the standard of glamour and fashion, you wouldn't see what we wear on runways across the world.

If we weren't the innovators of some of those most incredible music in the world, you wouldn't find people emulating everything that we do.

But the duality of that is what they tell us, what they say and what they do.

And my mama always said, pay attention to what people do, not what they say.

What they say is, you're not good enough, you're not smart enough, you're not enough.

All of these negative things.

But what they do is they go get butt shots, lip shots, change the shape of their faces, color, you know, darken their skin to look like us.

So if we are so not enough and weak, why is it that people literally are making millions, millions of dollars off of the culture that we are not, that we created the culture that we are?

So I say.

I say that to say when I'm watching this political conversation happening, the whispers, the people who are against Kamala, the conversations that they're having now.

It is, you know, first it was, she's not black.

Okay, well, what do we need a DNA check?

Are Jamaicans not black?

Do South Indians not have african roots?

That complexion didn't come from nowhere.

Have you seen a person from Bangladesh?

Have you seen a person from South Asia?

I mean, I look at Nikki Haley and I look at her parents.

Their complexion is darker than me, so, like, it comes from somewhere.

And so then we want to say, well, her.

Then they said, well, her grand.

One of her.

She's descendant of a slave owner.

Well, if you are a child, a great grandchild.

A great great grandchild.

A great great great grandchild of transatlantic slavery.

One of them people on the wall is our great great great grandfather.

Right?

Our great great great grandmother.

Those are our cousins.

That's why a lot of times I'm like, hey, cousin.

Because somewhere down the line, somebody enslaved their child.

So that's just like, what are you talking about?

And then we talk.

Now we're talking.

Now they're calling her.

She's not smart.

No.

Then it was, she slept her way to the top.

How do you sleep your way to the top?

And you were elected.

Like, people had to go and vote for you to get your position.

How does that happen?

And now, now she's dumb.

She's not smart.

She says dumb things.

Where.

Where?

She was educated by HBCU, Howard University, which is a stellar college university.

And she went to a state school and got her law degree.

And she was elected, I think, five times she's won elections.

That is not somebody that is dumb.

And not only that, her level of experience for the position.

People always say, we need a business person for United States of America.

United States of America is a land of laws.

This whole country is built on laws.

Why wouldn't you want an attorney?

Joe Biden is an attorney practice law.

Hillary Clinton, an attorney practice law.

So it's important to not only know the laws and know how to practice law, but how to interpret them so that people understand what's really happening.

So that's all I'm going to say about that.

But I do want to talk about owning our power in this moment.

It's so important.

Let me get some water.

Hold on.

Owning our power in this moment is so important.

It is so important.

And I'm not saying it won't happen again in our lifetime, but why this is so important.

Let me break it down.

He did it.

He promised to put a black woman on the Supreme Court for the first time.

He did it.

There is a divine nine office at the White House.

There is a group of women called the colored girls who advise Joe Biden on black issues.

He has put billions of dollars into HBCUs.

It's not enough money because HBCUs have been so neglected, but he did it.

And Kamala Harris has been with him making those decisions, because at the end of the day, HBcus are some of the finest learning institutions in the country.

They have lots of problems because they are not funded like other universities are.

I live in a city that has an Ivy league of the midwest.

They have, I want to say, a 40 or $50 billion endowment fund because the alumni give out of their pocket and they give money to the university.

When people die, they leave money to the university.

That is not happening at the HBCus.

So there's a deficit.

When you see some of these colleges also, many people have for years, have not even sent their kids to hbCus.

They don't have the top tier sports.

That brings in a lot of money for the universities.

But lately they've been getting lots of attention.

Lots and lots of attention.

One of the people who put a lot of fire on that was Beyonce when she did Coachella, when she presented the world the HBCU experience that made people say, oh, that's.

I didn't know that was happening there.

You know?

So people are doing more now than just going to homecoming.

There are people that have.

That are sending money there.

I know that Bloomberg, who was the former mayor of New York, just sent a hundred million dollars.

Amazon man's wife, I can't think of her name.

I can't think of her name, but she just sent millions of dollars to HBCU.

So it's happening more and more and more.

Robert Smith and different people are saying, we're paying for this year's education.

So it's happening.

These openings are happening.

But what happens is, because we get our information off of social media, we get our information from the media.

The messaging is different than the reality.

So we have to go to places that are really giving information about what's happening in the black community.

And we also have to remember there are a lot of places that are not mainstream, that feed off of our pain.

This is one of the reasons I got off TikTok.

There were too many white people profiting off of black pain.

Their whole platform will be like, let me tell you about black history.

And they're making millions, millions, hundreds of thousands, thousands of dollars, millions of views based off of our information and our life.

But they're not donating any money to our causes.

They're not giving money to HBcus.

They're not paying for lunches at schools.

They're just profiting off of our pain.

And that's one of the reasons why I got off TikTok.

I just, morally, I just can't be there.

But back to the conversation that win with black women had.

That's an organization.

Everybody should join it.

Everybody should get involved some type of way.

Every Sunday they have a call, and this is outside of the campaign, but every Sunday they have a call, and you learn about what's happening on the ground with black women specifically.

And it's run by a really powerful group of women who are on the ground in different facets of life, from media to politics to medicine, all across the board.

And it's just a really great way to plug into the black woman community.

And I'm glad that I found them.

So what has happened is, because of the work that win, what black women have done.

So let's talk about Kamala Harris.

Her power as a black woman.

Her power as a black woman.

She's only been running for president, president this time for less than three months.

She has three months to win this, right?

Most people, they've been planning this for years.

Typically, when you win your election, you start running for the next election, and you spend at least two years doing what she has done in less than three months.

That's huge.

That is huge.

And at the time that I'm recording this episode, her campaign has raised $1 billion.

Typically, that's the amount of money raised over years.

And it just, for whatever reason, that's how much it costs to run a campaign these days.

It's ridiculous.

You know, when you go to places like Britain, you get six weeks to run for office, and the country gives you money.

Everybody has the same amount of money.

You got to do the best you can do.

And I think that's probably why they have more parties.

Like, we have two major parties, and then we have the independent party, then we have those other people that I don't mention their name because I'm not going to get in that conversation.

But let me tell you something.

Don't vote third party.

It is really just a waste of your vote.

It just really is.

And as black women, I just posted this on, well, Trevor Noah talked about it, but here's the thing.

Just a quick, quick, quick, quick little sidebar.

When you vote third party, you pull votes away from the Democratic Party to ensure the adversaries.

And I'm only saying this for this election.

If you have not read that, go read it.

I'm telling you, this is worse.

2025 is just part one of what their plan is.

It's horrible, but I'm not going to talk about it.

Read it for yourself.

Do your, you know, I'm always an advocate of do your own research.

It's very important that you do your own research because you have to learn it for yourself.

Stop depending on people to tell you what's going on.

If I say go read this, that's your choice.

Read it or don't read it.

But don't go to TikTok and get the information.

Go to the website.

Go to any politician who's on the democratic side and find the website and read it for yourself.

Taking away women's rights, taking away voting rights, taking away the rights of people that you love, it's bigger than that.

It's way bigger than that.

But anyway, let me get back to my point.

She has raised a billion dollars.

She has built a coalition of all people, from the most liberal of the liberals, moderates to republicans, because everybody knows that this is the most consequential election that we've ever had.

And if you don't believe me, watch origin.

Watch Origin and watch that conversation around Germany specifically.

It's going to give you an idea of what's happening right now.

So she has raised a billion dollars.

She has built a coalition, and she is running for president of the United States with the support of millions and millions of people.

And I don't know how the race is close.

This is about not just having a seat at the table, but building a new table that includes us, because the table that we have now, we are just pulling up a seat to, we are in the room, but first time ever that we have had a voice because our vice president understands our experience.

She lives our experience.

She understands our experience.

She was raised by a single mother, she was raised by academics.

She was raised.

She was raised in a way that was very, very similar to a lot of us.

And education took her to another level.

And so we have to understand that this is not about who I like or who I don't like.

This is about the life that you choose to live.

Who is going to give you the ability to live the life that you choose to live.

This can't make this about popularity.

We can't make this about, well, I think he's stronger and I think he does better on economy.

I think this and I think that it's not even about what you think about the person.

It's really nothing.

It's about what you think about yourself.

It's about when you wake up on the 7 January, you know what?

Are you going to look in the mirror and say to yourself, are you going to have a regret because you made an emotional decision or are you going to be happy because you made a well researched decision?

Whatever your decision is.

But I would say do your research.

November is right around the corner.

We are in October.

It is right around the corner.

And when I say I'm not trying to make this a political conversation, but it is political, forget it.

It's a political conversation.

But the politics I'm talking about is exercising our power from a smart, intelligent and well researched way, not from emotion.

I don't have a problem with emotion.

But in this instance, I'm not interested in anybody's comedy act.

I'm not interested in anybody's.

Well, during this time I got this.

You're not going to get that this time.

This is a whole different situation.

Like that era is gone.

That pre pandemic era is gone.

There's no going back to that.

So the position we have to think from is where do we see our future being and who's going to allow me to build the future that I want from me, my family, my friends, my peers, my community, my state, my region, my country, my world.

Where do I fall in that and how can I journey out in life as far as I want to go?

That's a powerful position to think from.

Because when we think from the place of who do I like and who I don't like, that's not a.

Excuse me.

That's not a position of power.

That's a position of Persona.

Whose Persona do I like?

Because we don't really know these people.

All we can do is find out more about them.

We do our own research.

You know what orange is going to give you, because we've been there before.

But just imagine that.

He was in it for four months.

And the only, and I believe with all of my heart, the way that they treat us in the medical community, the only reason that he is still alive is because he has a white wife and she has a white family who showed up every single day to make sure that he was taken care of.

He had to learn, he was on life support for months.

He had to learn how to walk again.

He had to learn how to speak again.

He had to learn how to hold his head up again, and he did it.

But it took months for him, and he's still not himself, but it took months because he got the care he needed.

And I, I promise you, if he had a black wife, he would not have had that level of care.

That's just my opinion, and that's from my experience of dealing with, when my brother was sick and dealing with the hospitals.

You could tell who cared and you could tell who didn't.

The line was clear.

But I had, every day, I had to fight for him to be okay.

And not only did I have to fight, but I had to call people that would call up there and fight who didn't look like me, my friends who stood by me when a lot of people didn't, and they fought to make sure that he got where he needed to go.

So thankful for that.

But the understanding is that we need somebody who's going to change that experience for black people.

When you talk about maternal mortality, Kamala Harris has brought it to the White House.

She was talking about it in California.

There's no reason that black women should be dying in childbirth at the rates that it's happening.

There's no reason that babies should not have safe spaces to be born into.

There's no reason that a man should lose his wife and then have to go home with a baby in his arms, raising a child and planning a funeral.

This is the first time that somebody in the White House is even talking about it.

So that's what I mean about our power, the things that bring us agony.

We have somebody who's ready to bring a solution, that understands the experience and has taken the time to learn about it.

This is not a talking point for her.

This is something she talked about in California when she was in office there.

This is not everything that Kamala Harris talks about.

If you go back and watch videos from a long time ago, she's having the same exact conversations.

So this has been her journey, and she has taken it with every platform she has gone to now.

She has taken it to White House as vice president and becoming president, especially if we have a democratic Congress and a democratic, if we have a democratic congress, senators and representatives, and they can get things through.

Oh, my God.

And I'm not gonna.

And I'm not saying that it's gonna be Shangri La or it's gonna be like Pollyanna.

I'm not Pollyanna about this, but when I make my observations about how things change, the biggest change we need is somebody who is inclusive for everybody.

Because if everybody comes to the table and makes everybody's issues their issues, then that's when change happens.

We can't do it by ourselves.

We have to have somebody who's saying to somebody else, hey, put this on your plate, too.

Maternal health, put this on your plate, too, because they're the people with the problem, and then they're the people who write the checks for the solution, and they don't always look like us.

So I say all that to say, remember, this election is not just about who you like.

This election is not just about who makes you feel good or who makes you laugh, you know?

And then let's talk about this.

We got to check our own biases.

Some of us, as black women, we don't like black women leaders.

We prefer men.

We think men are stronger.

We think men are going to take care of us, are going to protect us.

Not this man, not this person, not that one.

He doesn't protect his own family.

If you don't protect your own, what makes you think they're going to protect you?

There's so much about this I just don't understand.

But I just want us to really fully understand that as black women, we have an opportunity that we have been pushing for, for years.

We have an opportunity to not just have a seat at the table, not just have our place in the room, but to have an opportunity to make a difference.

And it's not because of her.

It's because the coalition of black women that are telling Joe Biden what we need.

That has always been the thing that has been missing from our community as black folks, we are so used to having leaders that we're waiting for somebody to lead us.

And it's not a conscious thing.

It is not a conscious thing.

But we look to other people to tell us how to think, how to act, what to say, what to wear, instead of going back into the place of innovation, which is where we come from.

You know, I was writing something today for black women amplified, and I was like, we have become consumers.

We have been taking it all in, but we don't put much out.

You know, when I think about the.

When I say we're consumers, we spend 1.4 or $1.5 trillion a year as a collective community of black people.

1.4.

Not millions, not hundred, millions, trillion.

That's how much we spend on everything.

Makeup, cars, luxury items.

Why do you think all of these companies, like Louis Vuitton, are getting black creative directors?

Because we're the only ones buying their stuff.

These kids don't care about Gucci and Louis Vuitton and luxury items.

You know who does?

Black folks.

These kids are not spending $803,000 on a handbag.

They don't even carry handbags.

You know what they're into?

Thrifting.

Now, when you send your stuff to the Salvation army, they will go and wash it and wear it.

Even coach.

Coach has a whole new company, and I forgot what it's called, but it's about recycling their old bags and selling them.

Right?

Because the kids are into.

I forgot what it's called, but they're into ecology.

They want to save and preserve the planet.

So they want to use reusable items, not luxury items.

If you think about it.

Think about this.

Let me break this down.

Saks Fifth Avenue just bought Nema Marcus.

Nema Marcus was one of the biggest luxury stores ever.

Luxury department store.

They're not making any money.

Why?

Because the kids don't care about luxury items.

They're not spending $3,000 on a watch.

What they're doing is they're going to the thrift store, or they're going to one of these online resale places.

They're going to the eBay, and they're getting what they want.

So everything is shifting.

But what's not shifting is how black people spend money.

I say this all the time, and I was in the hair industry for 35 years.

I say this all the time.

If black women for 30 days did not wear a weave and went to the beauty salon every week for 30 days, the dynamics of the economy would shift.

If black women went and took their weaves out, their wigs, all of that that comes through China and India.

It would change the economy.

Of those countries, 45 days, they will be asking us what we need.

Because although other groups of people wear hair extensions, wear wigs, wear weaves, they do.

We are a big consumer of it.

And I know because I was in the industry for a long time, we're a huge consumer of it.

And we spend a lot of money to the point where they're allowing black women to get their own factories.

They're partnering with black women for factories because they know that we are their base.

Now, do they treat us like that?

Now let's talk about that.

1 second.

1 second.

Just let's dip into that.

Do we go to the asian stores and get treated like other groups of people get treated at the Louis Vuitton store?

If you had a group of people who were putting millions of dollars, hundreds of million dollars into your economy and into your business and into you helping you raise the money that's helping you raise your family, don't you think we would have been treated better?

Don't you think there would not be cameras everywhere that you could see, that people would.

Wouldn't be following you around the store, that people would get to know you, that people would donate money to your causes and to your community and not just take everything from it.

Okay, I'm gonna get back out of it.

I'm gonna get out of that.

There was just one, one little.

I just had to say that.

But let me bring this all together because I want to finish this cold water.

I want to get something to eat, and I want to upload this for you all.

It's not going to be a fancy edit.

It's just me and you having this conversation.

But I just want to say this before we get to election day, I want you to sit down and get a journal.

You can buy one off of our website, www.blackwomenamplified.com.

gotta do a little plug.

A little plug.

Get a journal and write down your dreams for the next 30 days for yourself.

For the next 60 days, for the next 90 days.

And then I want you to ask yourself, who's going to create an environment where that can happen?

If you want to have a child, our reproductive rights have been stripped from us.

If you have a problem pregnancy, there's no help.

If you need health care, they're trying to take it away.

They're going to do everything they can to get rid of the affordable Care act.

If you think inflation is high now, wait.

If that person gets in, gets in office.

If you want to open up a business, Kamala Harris is offering opportunities to make that happen.

If you want an education, the playing field is no longer level because of the ending of affirmative action.

If you want your kids to go to a great college, the playing field is no longer level because of the ending of affirmative action.

So if you thought you were going to open up a not for profit and use grants to fund your business and your dreams, that will no longer happen.

So that means organizations like girls and boys Club and, you know, all of these 501s that help the community will no longer be getting funding.

If you have a daughter that has a dream, if you have a son that has a dream, think about them.

A niece, a nephew, a godchild, think about the dreams that they have and their generation has, and then really assess who is going to present, who's going to create an environment for those dreams to come true.

So put yourself in the equation.

It's not about them.

Put yourself in the equation and think about it.

Just think about it.

Like, really be thoughtful and think about it.

And then do your research.

Go on their websites.

Go on the secretary of state websites and see what they offer.

Go to the SBA website.

Go to all these different places and make a proper assessment of the life that you want for your future.

The future that you want for your life, I should say, what does your future look like?

And we're not talking about just groceries are hot.

Yes, they are high.

They've been high before.

Prices are starting to go down.

Inflation is going down.

All the things are happening now.

She's going after price gouging.

They even talked about these crazy fees, that bank charge for overdraft fees.

They shouldn't be 36 and $40.

They weren't $19.

They've doubled because of that person that was in office at that time.

So I sell this to you to say, owning your power is not just about who you vote for.

It's about why you are voting, why you are engaging in the process as an american citizen and not just for yourself.

Because God doesn't give us power just for ourselves.

God gives us power to help other people.

Be like Jesus helped.

Jesus thought about other people.

If you want to go religious on it, Jesus thought about other people.

How can I help these people?

How can I help people live a better life?

We do it every day in our communities, in our churches.

But we have to think outside of who.

Do we like our biases?

Look at the kids around you.

If you're Gen X.

They're way different than we are.

Their whole life is different.

I was talking to a friend the other day, and his child is now 13.

I said to him, I said, wow, your baby has never known a life without technology.

You want a president that is going to protect your children from technology.

You want someone in office who is going to protect your kids from technology.

You want someone in office who is not going to say that your child has to go across the city to get a good education.

You want somebody who's going to protect the education that is in their neighborhood.

Just saying.

That's all I have to say for today.

I'll be back later.

But listen, make sure that you check out www.blackwomenamplified.com.

like I said, we've gone into a full, a full empowerment company.

And I'm adding things to the website every day.

So bookmark it, check out the shop, buy a couple of journals, check out the website.

You can get the self love journal and download it today and start your self discovery journey.

It can help you through these processes.

And I'm adding things every day.

I just added, oh, I have a class coming up called unmute.

And it's about reshaping the inner dialogue that we have as women, specifically black women.

Oftentimes we have these inner dialogues that say we're not enough, we have imposter syndrome, we have self worth issues that stop us from doing the things that we really are passionate about.

So it's about reworking the inner dialogue so that we can move on and really step in our boldness and in our power.

So thank you so much for listening.

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Anyway, I will be back soon.

I'm going to put this episode up tonight.

But please listen to the interview with Nikki.

I'm sorry, Nikki May.

Nicole Glover.

And if you want to go back to season three, check out the conversation with Rachelle Carey.

We talked about her journey as a mom, and that was a great conversation.

It's really a great conversation to talk about, especially in this election season, because we talk about her IVF journey and from IVF to adoption and how you know all the things about that.

So anyway, have an amazing evening.

I'm sending love and light to you all and I will talk to you soon.

Thank you, as always, for listening to the black women amplified podcast.

And remember, own this moment, own your power, and make a very well researched decision based on the life that you want to live now and the life that you want to create in the future.

Think about your legacy and who's going to help you get there.

Have an amazing evening.

Take care.

Bye.