Escape from L.A. (part 2 of a double crossover!)

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Hello.

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Hello.

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I'm Katie and welcome to Retro

Made, your pop culture rewind.

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Today we continue the double crossover

with Jim and Kevin from the Pool Scene

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podcast with the sequel to Escape

from New York,: 1996

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And we'll also be sure

to touch on all the other

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happenings of the time in the

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time capsule.

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Kevin, Jim, thank you

so much for joining me.

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Pool Scene Podcast: Hey,

now, thank you, Katie.

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Katie: So what's the story

with Pool Scene Podcast?

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Let us know.

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Pool Scene Podcast: Well, we just

released High Fidelity this week.

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We closed out Music Month.

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We, that was episode 193.

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So we are now 7 away from 200.

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June will we be celebrating our four

year anniversary of our podcast?

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We started as a movie

and music video podcast.

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That was it.

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And then it's become

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pop culture.

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It's become nostalgia mostly.

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It's crime.

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In addition to weekly episodes

on Mondays talking about movies.

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We occasionally drop in some of

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other episodes within we

have the swim short series

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or 15 minute

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breaks.

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And then we have the swim meet

series, which is kind of our

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documentaries or long form.

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And then we have

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pool crimes or pool crimes

thing where it's not just about

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crimes that happen in pools.

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It's just about that.

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I figure it's an easy way to just

brand things called pool crimes.

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But if you listen regularly, you.

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Get in on the inside jokes

pretty quickly and, and

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kind of figure out the format.

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You know, we are open books.

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We hold nothing back.

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That's true.

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Unfortunately for us,

maybe to our detriment.

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Katie: It's great.

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If you like Retro Made, you'll

probably like their show as well.

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So check it

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out guys.

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So let's open the time capsule from

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August of 1996.

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Pool Scene Podcast: And let me,

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so 1996, this movie to me doesn't feel 96.

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Like looking back, I'm like,

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Katie: What does it

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Pool Scene Podcast: if I had to

place this, maybe: 2001

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Katie: okay.

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yeah.

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Actually, now that you

say that I can, yeah.

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Yeah, I

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can see that a little bit.

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But it was August of 1996.

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So

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that would,

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have been like, the 95 to 96 TV season.

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And so we've already

covered that a little bit.

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So I thought we might do something

a little bit different in terms

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of what the top shows were.

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I'll list those.

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And then if you guys

want to pick 1 and share

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a tidbit or a

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memory or whatever you would like about

it, the top shows we have ER, Seinfeld,

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Pool Scene Podcast: Oh yeah.

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Katie: Friends, Caroline in

the City, The Single Guy, Home

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Improvement, Boston Common, this

was actually its premiere season,

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NYPD Blue, Frasier, and Grace Under Fire.

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Pool Scene Podcast: I

will say right off the bat

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now I know Kevin's going to bring it up.

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So I'm going to say ER for me

was a huge deal just because

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goose was on it, Anthony Edwards,

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and I felt like he was never vindicated,

George Clooney, George Clooney,

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not the best Batman,

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but when it came to Anthony Edwards,

I always thought that Maverick

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killed him in top gun because of

his hot dogging and bad piloting.

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So it felt great to know that

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he got his, you know, he got His

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His flowers on ER, but man, the

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spoilers

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when Dr.

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Green dies in season eight, I think

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I still cry like a baby.

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I don't, I have no problem admitting it.

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It's one of the hardest tear jerking

episodes I've ever seen in my life.

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Did you watch all of ER?

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I watched all 15 seasons.

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15 seasons.

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At least they knew when to end it.

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Weird.

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Did you ever watch Grey's Anatomy?

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No.

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But why?

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I just, no.

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I'm good.

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Okay.

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Yeah, I just couldn't do it.

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So the, the one that jumps out to me when,

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you know, you shared this list with us.

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NYPD Blue, Dennis

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Franz's ass is the big monumental moment

because how, why, why Dennis Franz?

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People tuned in for the booty.

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It's, it's like Jim and I, before we

started recording, we're saying this

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show would almost pre advertise that they

were going to say a certain curse word.

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They're going to swear.

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Oh, NYPD.

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They're going to say SOB?

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They're going to swear.

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Oh.

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But of all people, Dennis

friends, they're like, Hey, dent.

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Hey, Denny, we're going to

show your butt this week.

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All right.

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Katie: Yeah.

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I do recall his butt being shown

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being a huge deal.

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That's for certain.

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Yep.

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Okay.

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NYPD Blue and ER, huh?

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Pool Scene Podcast: Oh, big time.

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Well, and obviously Seinfeld,

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far, I mean, it's Larry David.

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And his glory.

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And I know a couple of times on this

podcast, I've even referenced the fact

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of, I don't think the single guy ever got

enough credit because Jonathan Silverman

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and Joey Slotnick as a duo, we're

just like Tom Hanks and Peter Scolari.

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In my opinion, I have almost no

recollection at all of the single guy.

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This is how bad it is.

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I know that I'm pretty sure

fact check me if I'm wrong.

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And I might be.

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This was, I think, either

a Tuesday or Thursday, 8.

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30 slot.

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So it came in after Friends

before Seinfeld, I think.

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So it was a good leading,

good buffer between two.

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Katie: Oh, I'm shocked It

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got that good of a slot.

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Pool Scene Podcast: was really good.

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I only think it lasted

four or five seasons.

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But I, I don't think it got

enough credit for how good it was.

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I I do not care for Friends.

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At all.

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It's well documented.

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It's just not for me.

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Hates it.

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Hates it.

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Like Billy Joel.

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Katie: That's hilarious.

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It's kind of of those.

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It's definitely my favorite.

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It is a comfort food for me.

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I'm a friends person.

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Indeed.

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My sisters and I will quote it.

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and you know, a lot of people either do

or don't know what we're talking about.

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also though, and this is a hot

taker, controversial opinion.

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I'm not really that big of a

fan of just sitcoms in general.

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You're not really a big

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sitcom person.

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I mean, I.

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I don't know what it is, like stuff

like, especially modern sitcoms.

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I, I'm not even going to get into how

much I dislike them, but I certainly

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watched my fair share of TGI Fridays

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with, you know, family matters and home

improvement, whole house, whole house, all

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Katie: Mm hmm.

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Pool Scene Podcast: Definitely

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spent, you know, time doing

that when I wasn't out.

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Cause I'm, I was such

a cool guy at that age.

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I wasn't home on Fridays too.

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Oh, I'm a view because I

had so many dates and stuff.

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Now, Katie, do you happen to remember?

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Cause we even looked it up.

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Do you remember Boston common

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at all?

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Katie: Vaguely.

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Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah, because I was

like, what the heck is Boston common?

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I looked it up because I was like,

I don't remember that two seasons,

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not at all.

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Anything near what I thought it was about.

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Katie: then there was also, maybe I'm

confusing it with a show that came later

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about a public.

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school in Boston

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with

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shy McBride.

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That was Boston Public, different show.

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Pool Scene Podcast: I don't know why,

but I confused this show with the William

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Shatner lawyer show because didn't have

to do with something about Boston legal.

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I think

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Katie: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Pool Scene Podcast: due for

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Boston Common, Boston Public,

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NBC relies on I think they're what their

third Wednesday nights or something.

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It's, it's an all Chicago night.

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It's Chicago med,

Chicago PD, Chicago fire.

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Why they love Chicago.

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I like

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Katie: they do a crossovers that way.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

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Katie: We already covered some

of the premieres in the breakdown

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episode, listeners that you've

hopefully already heard if you haven't

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listened to the breakdown episode,

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Kurt Russell, but

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some finales for 96, the Phil Donahue show

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I don't recall it going that

long, like all the way to 96.

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Picket fences.

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I feel like this

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was a show

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for like moms or 30 somethings.

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Pool Scene Podcast: I feel like this show

had Alan Skerritt in it, but I might be,

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if I'm really, I, if I'm, I'm digging

deep, and that might be because of the

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bike accident I had back in 08, but I feel

like Alan Skerritt was a part of the show.

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I

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Katie: is Alan

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Pool Scene Podcast: or Tom

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Skerritt,

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I'm sorry, not Alan, Tom Skerritt,

Alan, see, lost it, lost it,

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Katie: Tom Skerritt.

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I, you might be right.

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Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

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Katie: Murder, she wrote, this was

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its final and it ran from

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84 to 96.

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It was, it had a really long, long run

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Pool Scene Podcast: We covered

an episode of Murder, She Wrote.

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We did a, Where they did virtual reality.

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The virtual reality episode.

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My girlfriend and I

started from season one.

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We're up to season four.

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I like to operate under the theory

that Jessica was the angel of death.

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And she knows everybody!

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Katie: it's a little

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Pool Scene Podcast: she's

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Katie: town.

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Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah, it's a

little town and Jessica kind of

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happens to find, I love the

beginning of every new episode.

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She has a nephew,

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she'll have a long lost

friend, an old boyfriend,

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they somehow, wherever they go.

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Here comes Jessica, lock the doors.

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Don't acknowledge her.

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You're safe.

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Let her be.

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I can remember like Murder, She

Wrote coming on at like my grandma's

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house or something back when there

were six channels and people were

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like, Ugh, Murder, She Wrote.

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I would watch Murder, She Wrote.

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I'd rather watch that than Matlock.

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I know.

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Okay, no offense to Andy

Griffith, but sorry.

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It's aged very well.

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It has.

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It's relevant still.

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Katie: like it It's on one of those

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channels, the

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rerun channels.

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It's on one of

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Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

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Katie: Do you guys remember the commish?

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Pool Scene Podcast: Oh, Chick List.

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Heck yeah.

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Katie: Was it?

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Okay.

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I have heard the name,

but I've never seen it?

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Don't know what it's about.

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A police

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I know of it.

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I never watched an episode of it.

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I just think he, I think

he, I'm probably wrong.

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Probably police.

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I would say a police commissioner.

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He's gotta be a commissioner or something.

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Not a Parks and Rec.

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But, I would hope he's a

commissioner or something.

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I would hope so.

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Katie: it also ended in

96, so that's TV for you.

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Music billboards.

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These are good.

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They're

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the ones that I do in

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the 90s, or especially like in the

mid to late 90s have been pretty good.

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Because that was like our era.

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It seems.

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Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

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High school.

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Katie: Yes.

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Pool Scene Podcast:

quite from middle school.

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Whatever you child.

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Katie: youngin.

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Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

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Katie: Billboards for the week of

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August 9th,

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1996.

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Number one song,

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Macarena.

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Pool Scene Podcast: Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Katie: Los Del Rio.

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I don't know if

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anybody recalls the name of the group.

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I didn't.

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I remember when that hit

96, I was a freshman.

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I was a freshman in high school

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and I could just remember

just the dance craze.

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You know what?

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I always thought of with Macarena

was so weird as we used to have

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teen dances at this place and I

remember when Macarena came out.

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I was like, I know that dance

because at the teen dances, everyone

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used to do that same dance to

Depeche Mode's Personal Jesus.

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And it worked out.

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It worked out perfect.

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Katie: we didn't do

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Pool Scene Podcast:

ripping off that dance.

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Katie: dance.

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Pool Scene Podcast: it was the same.

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I mean, yeah, I, it was the same

beat, same thing, but all the cross

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arms behind the head, hips turned.

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So that dance I think, predated the song.

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But with something like the

Macarena, that's so fascinating.

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And, and we're

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later this year we're gonna do

definitive songs of the two thousands.

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Was Macarena on our

definitive nineties list?

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I can't remember.

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I think we mentioned it.

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I don't think we made it on our top 30.

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Songs like that are everywhere.

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Commercials.

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Radio everywhere, but who's

actually purchasing them?

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You know, who's like, I got to go

to the mall and buy the CD single of

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the Macarena or the Cupid shuffle.

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Or the Cupid shuffle or you

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Katie: no one,

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but somebody has to pay the

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rights every time it's on a

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commercial or it's used in something.

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That's maybe how they make money.

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I don't know.

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Good

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call.

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Pool Scene Podcast: I've

ever seen a Macarena CD.

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Can you imagine what I

bought the whole album?

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I

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was just

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now low.

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Katie: you it

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was on

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Columbia house or what

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was the other, were,

you know, one of those.

378

: 00:13:52

Pool Scene Podcast: you got it as a

free add on because you sure as hell

379

: 00:13:54

didn't order it because could you

name another song by Los Del Rio?

380

: 00:13:59

Katie: No.

381

: 00:14:00

Pool Scene Podcast: Exactly,

382

: 00:14:01

but they made their money

so good on them This

383

: 00:14:04

Katie: The number two

song is you're making me

384

: 00:14:07

high by Toni Braxton.

385

: 00:14:11

Pool Scene Podcast: for me

386

: 00:14:12

as a

387

: 00:14:13

15 year old kid We talked about

AGM barbeau in part one and

388

: 00:14:17

escaped New York, but watching this

video as a kid I was oh, hello,

389

: 00:14:22

you are making me high.

390

: 00:14:23

Yes, you are, baby, baby HM

391

: 00:14:26

Katie: Yes, she was pretty.

392

: 00:14:27

Now, the number three song

393

: 00:14:29

I'm super jazzed about

394

: 00:14:30

because I don't

395

: 00:14:31

think this artist has made.

396

: 00:14:34

The show

397

: 00:14:36

Pool Scene Podcast: Okay.

398

: 00:14:37

Katie: my

399

: 00:14:37

favorite of all time

400

: 00:14:40

one, Mr.

401

: 00:14:41

Tupac Shakur

402

: 00:14:43

Pool Scene Podcast: Oh,

403

: 00:14:43

how do you want it

404

: 00:14:55

Oh, great.

405

: 00:14:57

So

406

: 00:14:58

they go off in that song.

407

: 00:15:00

I mean, all the

408

: 00:15:01

runs and stuff that they do.

409

: 00:15:03

What a great song.

410

: 00:15:03

My mom loves that song.

411

: 00:15:05

Really?

412

: 00:15:06

Yeah.

413

: 00:15:06

Katie: Are you serious?

414

: 00:15:07

Pool Scene Podcast: My mom's

415

: 00:15:08

a huge.

416

: 00:15:10

And then my mom loved Nelly.

417

: 00:15:11

Yeah.

418

: 00:15:12

Yeah.

419

: 00:15:12

So weird.

420

: 00:15:14

Katie: Wow.

421

: 00:15:15

You guys have cool moms.

422

: 00:15:17

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

423

: 00:15:17

I don't know.

424

: 00:15:18

I'll always remember my mom.

425

: 00:15:20

She'll be like,

426

: 00:15:21

did you hear?

427

: 00:15:21

And it's right when I graduated

from high school, she was like,

428

: 00:15:24

You know that, that new, I

think his name's Nelly, he's got

429

: 00:15:27

that, the boom, boom song with the rims.

430

: 00:15:30

I'm like the boom, boom

song with the rims, mom.

431

: 00:15:33

And I put it on.

432

: 00:15:34

She's like, Oh, country grammar.

433

: 00:15:36

I love this song.

434

: 00:15:37

I'm like, mom, have you listened to

the unedited version of the song?

435

: 00:15:39

Good grief.

436

: 00:15:40

I'm just thinking about Nelly and how

like all his songs were about like stuff.

437

: 00:15:45

Yeah.

438

: 00:15:45

Like grills.

439

: 00:15:46

Yeah.

440

: 00:15:46

And then he had this song

about the air force ones.

441

: 00:15:49

It's just I'm going to write a

bunch of songs about just stuff.

442

: 00:15:52

Yeah.

443

: 00:15:52

It doesn't have to be a

lot of substance to it.

444

: 00:15:54

Just stuff.

445

: 00:15:54

But it works.

446

: 00:15:55

You put it to a great beat and

447

: 00:15:57

Katie: I love Nelly.

448

: 00:15:58

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

449

: 00:15:59

. Katie: So how do

450

: 00:15:59

you

451

: 00:15:59

want

452

: 00:15:59

it?

453

: 00:16:00

It was the number three song, number four.

454

: 00:16:04

I don't recall these being

455

: 00:16:05

in the same

456

: 00:16:05

time period.

457

: 00:16:07

Twisted

458

: 00:16:08

by Keith Sweat.

459

: 00:16:10

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

460

: 00:16:11

Yeah.

461

: 00:16:11

Katie: of the year, I feel like.

462

: 00:16:14

Pool Scene Podcast:

that was some slow jams.

463

: 00:16:15

Yeah.

464

: 00:16:16

95, like basically nine or 92 through

98 R and B was that was he sweat

465

: 00:16:24

and then he did the super group LSG.

466

: 00:16:26

All of my body and Gil.

467

: 00:16:28

Really?

468

: 00:16:34

Katie: fantastic.

469

: 00:16:35

We actually played we made

Twisted into a drinking game.

470

: 00:16:39

Every

471

: 00:16:39

time twisted like he says twisted

472

: 00:16:42

so often in the song or like every time

he says twisted You have to take a drink.

473

: 00:16:45

So

474

: 00:16:46

Pool Scene Podcast:

You got pretty twisted.

475

: 00:16:48

Katie: we did

476

: 00:16:49

Pool Scene Podcast: right.

477

: 00:16:51

Yeah, I'm sure a lot of this was

featured at those teen dances we were at.

478

: 00:16:55

Yeah,

479

: 00:16:56

and most of the time we wouldn't

understand what any of it meant.

480

: 00:16:57

No, we didn't know what

they were talking about.

481

: 00:16:59

What is he talking about?

482

: 00:17:00

Alright.

483

: 00:17:00

I gotta go huff the the dry ice.

484

: 00:17:02

Anybody get any whippets?

485

: 00:17:04

Yeah.

486

: 00:17:05

Nice.

487

: 00:17:07

Katie: Tracy Chapman has the number

five song with give me one reason very

488

: 00:17:13

Pool Scene Podcast: glad

to see she finally got her

489

: 00:17:14

flowers with a, with fast car.

490

: 00:17:17

Thank God.

491

: 00:17:17

Yeah.

492

: 00:17:18

I mean, that's always a great song.

493

: 00:17:19

But then when it was at the Grammys,

I'm glad to see younger generations

494

: 00:17:23

now know who Tracy Chapman is.

495

: 00:17:25

And it's I'm happy as hell for,

496

: 00:17:26

Katie: yeah,

497

: 00:17:27

that version

498

: 00:17:27

her version is I mean, it's

a song in its own category.

499

: 00:17:32

Pool Scene Podcast: Oh, yeah, Oh yeah.

500

: 00:17:35

Katie: Eric Clapton, Change

the World is number six.

501

: 00:17:38

A

502

: 00:17:38

Pool Scene Podcast: Oh, is

503

: 00:17:39

that from phenomenon

504

: 00:17:41

Katie: I

505

: 00:17:42

Pool Scene Podcast: or no, it might've

been, might've been from phenomenon.

506

: 00:17:44

John Travolta.

507

: 00:17:45

Shout out.

508

: 00:17:46

Katie: Oh, yeah, probably.

509

: 00:17:48

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

510

: 00:17:49

Katie: Some more 90s R& B with R.

511

: 00:17:51

Kelly, I Can't Sleep Baby

512

: 00:17:54

is number

513

: 00:17:54

Pool Scene Podcast: I don't know the song.

514

: 00:17:55

Oh man.

515

: 00:17:56

I don't

516

: 00:17:56

Katie: Yeah, you will know it.

517

: 00:17:58

It's not one of his like super well known

518

: 00:18:00

ones,

519

: 00:18:01

but you'll know

520

: 00:18:01

it.

521

: 00:18:02

he can't do.

522

: 00:18:02

anything without her.

523

: 00:18:04

He can't sleep.

524

: 00:18:04

He can't eat.

525

: 00:18:05

He can't do any of the things.

526

: 00:18:07

Pool Scene Podcast: I

just, you do know it.

527

: 00:18:08

Katie: Definitely a

528

: 00:18:10

song played at dances

529

: 00:18:11

and it's so

530

: 00:18:12

repetitive.

531

: 00:18:13

I

532

: 00:18:13

can't stand it.

533

: 00:18:14

If I hear it, come on, ride

534

: 00:18:15

it the train

535

: 00:18:17

by quad

536

: 00:18:18

City DJs.

537

: 00:18:20

Pool Scene Podcast:

Yellow, red, and green,

538

: 00:18:22

and riot.

539

: 00:18:24

They had the the, pretty much

all of their songs were like,

540

: 00:18:27

we need one line

541

: 00:18:29

that we can just

542

: 00:18:29

repeat incessantly.

543

: 00:18:30

They did the Space Jam soundtrack

for the Michael Jordan Space Jam.

544

: 00:18:34

And it was like,

545

: 00:18:35

come on and slam if you want to jam

546

: 00:18:38

over and over and over again.

547

: 00:18:41

Yeah.

548

: 00:18:41

Could you imagine that meeting they had?

549

: 00:18:43

Listen,

550

: 00:18:44

Kylie Minogue knew what she

was doing with the locomotion.

551

: 00:18:46

We need a new

552

: 00:18:47

locomotion.

553

: 00:18:48

It involved a train.

554

: 00:18:50

Yes.

555

: 00:18:50

It wasn't, it wasn't just quad speed DJs.

556

: 00:18:53

It was

557

: 00:18:54

69 boys.

558

: 00:18:55

It was like, there were a bunch of these

559

: 00:18:57

that were built around a dance like

the butterfly or, and it was just

560

: 00:19:02

stuff that,

561

: 00:19:03

It's going to hopefully latch

on and get played at weddings

562

: 00:19:06

and it's a double entendre.

563

: 00:19:07

Yeah.

564

: 00:19:08

So yeah.

565

: 00:19:08

Freak nasty.

566

: 00:19:09

The dip,

567

: 00:19:10

Katie: There was the

568

: 00:19:11

Who Let the Dogs Out,

569

: 00:19:13

Pool Scene Podcast: comment

570

: 00:19:14

Katie: a, yeah.

571

: 00:19:15

Pool Scene Podcast: as Cleveland Browns

fans, we, we know that song all too well.

572

: 00:19:18

Katie: Oh, do they play that at games?

573

: 00:19:21

Pool Scene Podcast: Oh God, it's like the

B song with the dog pound and everything.

574

: 00:19:24

We have a minor league baseball

team here in town that are called

575

: 00:19:27

the Scrappers, which are dogs.

576

: 00:19:29

Yeah, and I used to have to play

that up in the booth all the time.

577

: 00:19:31

They play Who Let the Dogs

Out at every single game.

578

: 00:19:33

Oh yeah, after a while I'm like, can

we find a new song that involves a dog?

579

: 00:19:38

Would you rather be an artist who has

three or four top, 20 top 30 type hits

580

: 00:19:45

you hung around for a year or two,

maybe an album or two, or would you

581

: 00:19:48

rather have one massive one hit wonder?

582

: 00:19:51

And this is probably a pretty easy answer.

583

: 00:19:52

Yeah.

584

: 00:19:53

What do you think, Katie?

585

: 00:19:54

Katie: I would rather be around for a

586

: 00:19:56

couple years, have

587

: 00:19:57

a handful of

588

: 00:19:58

good songs.

589

: 00:20:00

Be known for more than just the one song.

590

: 00:20:02

Yeah,

591

: 00:20:06

Pool Scene Podcast: because if

you're a true artist and, and

592

: 00:20:08

at least you can say in that instance with

I want to hang around for a few years.

593

: 00:20:13

Put stuff out that I really enjoy,

or you can do who let the dogs Out,

594

: 00:20:16

And then you're making money

for maybe the next 50 years.

595

: 00:20:19

It's true.

596

: 00:20:19

Because your songwriting license, I

always feel like it would be an uphill

597

: 00:20:23

battle because you'd be trying to convince

other people I can do other things.

598

: 00:20:26

Right?

599

: 00:20:26

No, you want your ass up to

the stage and let them out.

600

: 00:20:31

Well, it's, it's sort of like

the fascinating the smash

601

: 00:20:33

mouth story because when

602

: 00:20:37

they wrote, I think it was walking

on the sun, it was the song The

603

: 00:20:42

guitar player, guitar player told

the singer, he was like, look, if

604

: 00:20:47

we release this song, it's over.

605

: 00:20:50

This is what we've become.

606

: 00:20:52

He's this is going to be a massive

hit, but this does not represent

607

: 00:20:56

who we've been previously.

608

: 00:20:58

And then it's really fascinating

story because sure enough.

609

: 00:21:01

They released a song, they were exactly

right, it I rushed out to National

610

: 00:21:05

Record Mart and bought the CD, I was

that guy, I was the Smash Mouth guy.

611

: 00:21:11

Katie: I got sick of that song.

612

: 00:21:12

And

613

: 00:21:12

then I was like, I was super annoyed

by that guy and his voice, and I

614

: 00:21:16

didn't want to hear anything else

615

: 00:21:17

from him.

616

: 00:21:19

Well,

617

: 00:21:20

Alanis Morissette,

618

: 00:21:21

remember how big she was around this

619

: 00:21:23

Pool Scene Podcast: oh yeah.

620

: 00:21:24

Katie: You learn slash you ought to know

621

: 00:21:27

Pool Scene Podcast: Her,

622

: 00:21:28

her vo I loved her vocal range.

623

: 00:21:30

Aw, her vocal range was amazing.

624

: 00:21:32

You oughta know about, Uncle Joey.

625

: 00:21:35

Uncle Joey, Dave Pouillet.

626

: 00:21:37

Dave Pouillet.

627

: 00:21:38

I

628

: 00:21:38

Katie: recently read something that she

629

: 00:21:40

claims it wasn't him.

630

: 00:21:41

And that there was

631

: 00:21:42

like an article about it was like, could

have been like four different people, but

632

: 00:21:47

I'm pretty sure it was him.

633

: 00:21:49

Pool Scene Podcast: that picture's

been floating around recently

634

: 00:21:50

of them together and it kind of

makes me feel a little scummy

635

: 00:21:54

She's so young.

636

: 00:21:56

She looks Very like teenager

and he's he's uncle Joey Joey.

637

: 00:22:01

Yeah, he's I think he's in

his like 30s and she's 18

638

: 00:22:05

Katie: Yep.

639

: 00:22:05

Yep.

640

: 00:22:07

Pool Scene Podcast: It's cut it out.

641

: 00:22:08

Uncle Joe.

642

: 00:22:09

Yeah, please.

643

: 00:22:11

Katie: Yeah.

644

: 00:22:11

She that's, that's the

deal with young girl.

645

: 00:22:13

They don't know better.

646

: 00:22:14

They, you know what I mean?

647

: 00:22:16

Pool Scene Podcast: Well, she did

know something about, she had six

648

: 00:22:19

singles on that album.

649

: 00:22:21

Oh,

650

: 00:22:21

so

651

: 00:22:22

I remember that just being like,

652

: 00:22:24

when's it going to start?

653

: 00:22:24

Like I liked it, but I was

like, when's it going to stop?

654

: 00:22:26

She has

655

: 00:22:26

six singles off

656

: 00:22:28

a jagged little bill.

657

: 00:22:29

Katie: What an album, great

658

: 00:22:31

Pool Scene Podcast: It was.

659

: 00:22:32

Katie: And then number 10.

660

: 00:22:35

is LL Cool

661

: 00:22:36

J's

662

: 00:22:38

Loungin is the technical name of

The song, but it's who do you love?

663

: 00:22:55

Pool Scene Podcast: The remix

version of this song is incredible.

664

: 00:22:59

Remember

665

: 00:23:00

LL Cool J went away.

666

: 00:23:02

Like he fell off the face of the

plant after mama said, knock you out.

667

: 00:23:05

Then he comes back with Mr.

668

: 00:23:06

Smith

669

: 00:23:07

with voice to man, doing a lover.

670

: 00:23:09

That's what I was hoping to say.

671

: 00:23:10

Hey, lover, hey lover.

672

: 00:23:11

And then this came out, which

I like a little bit more.

673

: 00:23:14

Cause as a great beat, the song off the

Beavis and by head to America soundtrack.

674

: 00:23:20

And Beavis and by head

are in the music video.

675

: 00:23:21

So Yeah.

676

: 00:23:22

Katie: well,

677

: 00:23:22

I can't remember the name of the

album But one of his albums is

678

: 00:23:25

every single song is is like a hit

679

: 00:23:28

and it would have been a

probably around this time

680

: 00:23:30

Yeah.

681

: 00:23:31

Pool Scene Podcast: And then this

is around when he really parlayed

682

: 00:23:33

it all into an acting career.

683

: 00:23:34

Deep Blue Sea.

684

: 00:23:35

Deep Blue Sea, my hat

is like a shark's fin.

685

: 00:23:38

Katie: You guys said that simultaneously.

686

: 00:23:40

Did you see him in,

687

: 00:23:41

I Loved in Too

688

: 00:23:42

Deep?

689

: 00:23:43

Because it also has Omar Epps in it.

690

: 00:23:46

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

691

: 00:23:48

I don't, I don't think I've ever seen it.

692

: 00:23:49

I've seen all of those movies,

693

: 00:23:50

yeah.

694

: 00:23:51

Omar Epps

695

: 00:23:51

stuff Yeah.

696

: 00:23:53

Katie: It was good.

697

: 00:23:54

LL.

698

: 00:23:55

I saw him in concert,

699

: 00:23:55

too.

700

: 00:23:57

Pool Scene Podcast: Ooh!

701

: 00:23:58

When did you see him in concert?

702

: 00:24:00

Katie: Probably 15 years ago,

703

: 00:24:02

Pool Scene Podcast: Okay.

704

: 00:24:02

Katie: 10, 10 years ago, 15 years ago at

705

: 00:24:05

an outdoor

706

: 00:24:07

Pool Scene Podcast: Was it?

707

: 00:24:07

for it was primarily him?

708

: 00:24:09

He was the the headlining artist and then

709

: 00:24:12

was there anyone else

710

: 00:24:13

Katie: Yeah, there probably was there.

711

: 00:24:15

This might have been, it might

have been, like, public enemy.

712

: 00:24:19

Pool Scene Podcast: Okay.

713

: 00:24:19

Katie: Day lost soul.

714

: 00:24:21

There was like a few and

then LL was the headliner.

715

: 00:24:24

Mm

716

: 00:24:24

Pool Scene Podcast: I've been a great

717

: 00:24:26

I mean last summer.

718

: 00:24:27

We have a outdoor amphitheater here

that Nelly played last year, but

719

: 00:24:32

Unfortunately, I mean, I guess,

fortunately for consumer, but

720

: 00:24:36

these artists can't sustain just like a

gig by themselves with an unknown opener.

721

: 00:24:42

It's all part of some like

nineties or: 2000

722

: 00:24:46

And now they just like slam a bunch

of these artists all on the same bill.

723

: 00:24:50

And I have not went to any of

them, but it's like TLC silk and

724

: 00:24:54

like all these other artists.

725

: 00:24:57

Concert tickets are so

726

: 00:24:59

damn expensive and it's you got to justify

727

: 00:25:01

going to see

728

: 00:25:03

cause we're from the

Youngstown, Ohio area.

729

: 00:25:05

And I got to justify

the fact that I'm paying

730

: 00:25:07

150

731

: 00:25:09

to be in an outdoor amphitheater in

downtown Youngstown underneath a bridge,

732

: 00:25:13

which isn't the greatest place.

733

: 00:25:14

All right.

734

: 00:25:15

No, no offense, but let's be honest.

735

: 00:25:17

But

736

: 00:25:18

last year, remember we saw gin

blossoms at a rib burn off, which is

737

: 00:25:21

fantastic.

738

: 00:25:22

They sound amazing.

739

: 00:25:23

And it was like 10 bucks.

740

: 00:25:24

Yeah.

741

: 00:25:24

But we got.

742

: 00:25:26

Yeah, we got absolutely

743

: 00:25:29

there was no like sun protect, no shade

744

: 00:25:32

because we had their biggest

regret like growing up around here.

745

: 00:25:37

We would have rib burn offs, like

constantly at the mall and gin

746

: 00:25:40

blossoms would play every single year.

747

: 00:25:43

And none of us ever went.

748

: 00:25:45

So we said, if we ever have the

opportunity to see the gin blossoms.

749

: 00:25:48

Yeah, we're going to go.

750

: 00:25:49

And we ended up going up

and towed the wet sprocket

751

: 00:25:52

because again,

752

: 00:25:53

Katie: can't

753

: 00:25:54

Pool Scene Podcast: can't

do just like your own thing.

754

: 00:25:55

So they, they're naked ladies.

755

: 00:25:56

Yeah.

756

: 00:25:57

Bare naked ladies, towed the

wet sprocket, gin blossoms.

757

: 00:25:59

And we went to, it's

like an outdoor theater.

758

: 00:26:03

That's on Lake Erie, Lake Erie.

759

: 00:26:05

It's awesome.

760

: 00:26:06

Yeah, Nautica.

761

: 00:26:07

We had a great time and then saw, Hey,

chin blossoms are coming to the rib burn

762

: 00:26:11

off, which is literally 15 minutes away.

763

: 00:26:13

It felt more appropriate to finally

close the loop because we always

764

: 00:26:18

wanted to see him at the rib burn off.

765

: 00:26:19

And we saw him at a rib burn

766

: 00:26:20

Katie: What is a rib burn off?

767

: 00:26:22

Pool Scene Podcast: so it's just like a

festival, except for instead of having

768

: 00:26:26

rides and games, it's literally

just, it's literally just barbecue.

769

: 00:26:31

It's

770

: 00:26:31

Katie: a bunch of like vendors

that are selling ribs and stuff.

771

: 00:26:35

Okay.

772

: 00:26:36

Pool Scene Podcast: have a concert and

usually when we rip burn offs, like

773

: 00:26:40

there's five nights of it and

every night someone like when

774

: 00:26:43

I was, I don't know, 20, I saw.

775

: 00:26:46

Charlie Daniels band who played all,

776

: 00:26:49

Leonard Skinner and songs.

777

: 00:26:50

Okay.

778

: 00:26:51

So they just basically covered.

779

: 00:26:52

Yes.

780

: 00:26:53

It was all entered.

781

: 00:26:54

So Charlie Daniels being a tribute

band to Leonard Skinner and then any,

782

: 00:26:58

any guests, what, what the main event

of Charlie Daniels was free bird.

783

: 00:27:01

It, well, It was devil

went down to Georgia.

784

: 00:27:04

Oh yeah.

785

: 00:27:04

I'm pretty sure the encore was free bird.

786

: 00:27:07

Katie: I actually saw

Leonard Skinner at an

787

: 00:27:09

outdoor amphitheater

788

: 00:27:10

and they were with a few other people.

789

: 00:27:11

I forget who, but it's

only, it's like the younger

790

: 00:27:14

brother.

791

: 00:27:15

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

792

: 00:27:16

Katie: is younger brother is the

lead singer now, , cause most of them

793

: 00:27:19

died I think

794

: 00:27:20

Concerts, it's a different

it's a different game now

795

: 00:27:24

Pool Scene Podcast: It's not worth it.

796

: 00:27:25

It's just not worth it.

797

: 00:27:26

You get older.

798

: 00:27:27

You're like, God, I got to deal with

the traffic going into the city.

799

: 00:27:30

Then out of the city.

800

: 00:27:31

What time I get home?

801

: 00:27:31

I got to work the next day.

802

: 00:27:32

It is a concert like, like Taylor

Swift, for example, something like that.

803

: 00:27:36

You compete with bots to purchase

the tickets or you have to

804

: 00:27:39

buy them in the resale market.

805

: 00:27:40

It is just

806

: 00:27:41

nightmare stuff.

807

: 00:27:42

If you, if, if you're like a huge, if

you're a Swifty and you're a huge fan.

808

: 00:27:47

Unfortunately,

809

: 00:27:49

they don't make it easy for

you to just get tickets.

810

: 00:27:51

Like we talked about.

811

: 00:27:52

Do you remember, you know, where you

grew up, it going to a physical ticket

812

: 00:27:57

master location and being there at open

to purchase your ticket, they'd get out

813

: 00:28:01

the laminated map and you'd point where

you wanted to say it was the best and you

814

: 00:28:05

actually got a ticket and they gave you a

physical ticket that you had to hold for,

815

: 00:28:10

Katie: the ones I went to back back

in the day were for like festivals.

816

: 00:28:14

So there wasn't a seat

817

: 00:28:16

Or it was just all

818

: 00:28:17

general admission.

819

: 00:28:18

So like I never

820

: 00:28:20

picked a seat, but they

were like 20, bucks You

821

: 00:28:22

Pool Scene Podcast: yeah, they were all

822

: 00:28:24

Katie: yeah.

823

: 00:28:24

Pool Scene Podcast: 28, 75.

824

: 00:28:29

Katie: well let's move on to

news and events with MTV too.

825

: 00:28:35

their second TV channel

launched in August, 96.

826

: 00:28:39

Pool Scene Podcast: Their

answer to, you know, what

827

: 00:28:41

MTV, it used to be 24, seven,

828

: 00:28:44

we'll make another channel

and make that 24, seven.

829

: 00:28:46

And then shortly thereafter, we have,

we can throw the weird real world reruns

830

: 00:28:52

and road rules reruns onto this one.

831

: 00:28:53

Instead,

832

: 00:28:55

man, I thought, you know, being a

teenager and MTV two's come out,

833

: 00:28:59

you're like, all right, finally,

24, seven music videos again.

834

: 00:29:05

Wrecked it again.

835

: 00:29:06

Although MTV too, was very good to play

the obscure stuff, the back catalogs.

836

: 00:29:11

Yeah.

837

: 00:29:11

Like alternative and wrap and

838

: 00:29:15

different things that weren't

necessarily featured on MTV.

839

: 00:29:18

And I think that was the selling point.

840

: 00:29:19

Yeah.

841

: 00:29:20

We used to love the box.

842

: 00:29:22

Oh, do you, are you familiar

with the box network, Katie?

843

: 00:29:26

Katie: No, there's a

844

: 00:29:27

network called The Box?

845

: 00:29:28

Mmm.

846

: 00:29:30

Pool Scene Podcast: lived.

847

: 00:29:31

It was about late nineties.

848

: 00:29:32

Cause I can remember watching this

in seventh period psychology class.

849

: 00:29:35

If we were good, the teacher was like, you

can watch the last 20 minutes of the box.

850

: 00:29:38

So basically it was based out of Canada.

851

: 00:29:40

I think much music owned it.

852

: 00:29:42

It was a video jukebox.

853

: 00:29:44

So

854

: 00:29:45

they'd play videos.

855

: 00:29:46

And if you, it was like 99, the whole

time the video was on, there's numbers

856

: 00:29:49

scrolling across the bottom of the

screen, a crawl, you would call the

857

: 00:29:53

Katie: What?

858

: 00:29:53

Pool Scene Podcast: The 800 number,

you would type in the three digit

859

: 00:29:56

code of the video you wanted to watch.

860

: 00:29:59

And then it would go into the queue.

861

: 00:30:02

Katie: I cannot believe

I've never heard of this.

862

: 00:30:04

It sounds pretty awesome.

863

: 00:30:05

Pool Scene Podcast: Every once in a

while, you can find a music video,

864

: 00:30:08

Evan and Jaren, if you ever look, go

look at Evan and Jaren crazy for this

865

: 00:30:13

girl, somebody uploaded it to YouTube.

866

: 00:30:15

The actual.

867

: 00:30:17

They took it, they ripped it off the box.

868

: 00:30:19

The box, but it also mixes

in the Dawson's Creek.

869

: 00:30:23

Yeah, footage.

870

: 00:30:24

The Dawson's Creek footage because

it was featured on Dawson's Creek.

871

: 00:30:27

Another one of my guilty pleasure shows.

872

: 00:30:28

I do have some legitimacy

concerns with the box because of.

873

: 00:30:32

Okay.

874

: 00:30:33

What if, what if you called in and you

typed in one five, four for Cottonmouth

875

: 00:30:37

Kings bump, and then I called and I

wanted one 54 Cottonmouth Kings bump.

876

: 00:30:42

They wouldn't play them back to back.

877

: 00:30:44

So, but you would get those obscure,

like Mid nineties Euro dance.

878

: 00:30:51

He's like Eiffel 65 was the first

time I ever saw blue was on the box.

879

: 00:30:54

Then you would have B O N with boys.

880

: 00:30:57

You only saw it on the box.

881

: 00:30:58

I love that song.

882

: 00:30:59

That song's so bad.

883

: 00:31:00

It's amazing.

884

: 00:31:01

Katie: which song?

885

: 00:31:03

Pool Scene Podcast:

It's a band called B O N

886

: 00:31:05

and the name of the song's called boys.

887

: 00:31:07

They're German.

888

: 00:31:08

They're German.

889

: 00:31:08

Yeah.

890

: 00:31:09

There's a German version

and English version.

891

: 00:31:11

The English version is so bad.

892

: 00:31:13

It's good.

893

: 00:31:14

Because the translation is not stellar.

894

: 00:31:17

Katie: Like 99 Red Balloons.

895

: 00:31:19

Isn't that originally German?

896

: 00:31:21

Pool Scene Podcast: Goldfinger's

remake of 99 Red Balloons is probably

897

: 00:31:26

one of the best covers of all time.

898

: 00:31:28

I love the English version of 99 Red

Balloons because when she says, In a hoey,

899

: 00:31:33

is how she says it.

900

: 00:31:35

It's like instead of in

a hurry, it's in a hoey.

901

: 00:31:37

And her broken German English accent.

902

: 00:31:40

I love it so much.

903

: 00:31:42

Katie: Also, back, back,

back in the day, you guys,

904

: 00:31:45

Netscape Browser

905

: 00:31:47

3.

906

: 00:31:48

0 is released.

907

: 00:31:48

1996.

908

: 00:31:50

Remember Netscape?

909

: 00:31:51

I

910

: 00:31:51

had forgotten about it.

911

: 00:31:53

Pool Scene Podcast: I used to love

the loading end in the corner where it

912

: 00:31:56

would have the stars flying by the end.

913

: 00:31:58

So you would just load brand.

914

: 00:31:59

Oh, granted, back then it's dial

up, so it's gonna take 20 minutes

915

: 00:32:03

where you see this end loading.

916

: 00:32:04

I did not own a personal

computer until: 2002

917

: 00:32:10

Okay.

918

: 00:32:10

Or a laptop or nothing.

919

: 00:32:12

Just never had a computer in.

920

: 00:32:13

They were multimedia class at high school.

921

: 00:32:15

My, all my friends had, but

I definitely used Netscape.

922

: 00:32:17

Netscape at school.

923

: 00:32:18

Oh yeah.

924

: 00:32:19

Katie: computer lab

925

: 00:32:20

or friend's house.

926

: 00:32:21

We didn't have one in 96 either.

927

: 00:32:25

Pool Scene Podcast: I still have

from: 1984

928

: 00:32:28

I still have it to this day,

929

: 00:32:30

but it's definitely, I could not play

Netscape or use Netscape navigator.

930

: 00:32:34

No way.

931

: 00:32:35

Katie: that is so

932

: 00:32:36

funny that you say that

because my parents, I

933

: 00:32:38

made them keep

934

: 00:32:38

it when they like, move, they

935

: 00:32:40

still have it.

936

: 00:32:41

The,

937

: 00:32:42

Pool Scene Podcast: Oh,

938

: 00:32:42

Katie: 64 that we had

when we were kids too.

939

: 00:32:45

Pool Scene Podcast: love that thing.

940

: 00:32:47

Yeah.

941

: 00:32:48

You, I mean, you

942

: 00:32:49

load up a game,

943

: 00:32:50

go make dinner,

944

: 00:32:51

go take a shower.

945

: 00:32:53

And then when you're done.

946

: 00:32:54

MTV's remote control is ready

to be played or a classic

947

: 00:32:58

Katie: that game.

948

: 00:32:58

We had that game.

949

: 00:32:59

Yes.

950

: 00:33:00

Pool Scene Podcast: a great, that's

an underrated TV show that people need

951

: 00:33:03

to understand how great it is.

952

: 00:33:05

Ken Ober, Kari Wuhr, Adam Sandler.

953

: 00:33:07

Commodore just had games

for absolutely everything.

954

: 00:33:11

Anything you can dream up.

955

: 00:33:13

Yep.

956

: 00:33:13

One button.

957

: 00:33:14

Katie: Yeah.

958

: 00:33:15

Oh,

959

: 00:33:16

man.

960

: 00:33:17

Pool Scene Podcast: should

do a Commodore podcast.

961

: 00:33:21

Yeah.

962

: 00:33:22

Katie: Okay.

963

: 00:33:22

So the movie that we're going to

be talking about escape from L.

964

: 00:33:25

A.

965

: 00:33:26

was the number 6 movie

966

: 00:33:28

released in August of

967

: 00:33:30

96, but there were some

other ones, a time to kill

968

: 00:33:35

Pool Scene Podcast: Oh yeah.

969

: 00:33:36

Oh,

970

: 00:33:37

hey, I saw that in the theaters.

971

: 00:33:39

Katie: There's some big ones.

972

: 00:33:40

Independence Day.

973

: 00:33:41

Pool Scene Podcast: Yep.

974

: 00:33:42

Saw that

975

: 00:33:42

Katie: that like the summer movie?

976

: 00:33:44

Pool Scene Podcast: Oh yeah.

977

: 00:33:45

Welcome to Earth.

978

: 00:33:47

Katie: Which I can't recall what Jack is.

979

: 00:33:49

What's

980

: 00:33:49

Pool Scene Podcast: Robin Williams.

981

: 00:33:51

It's Robin Williams

playing an adult child.

982

: 00:33:53

Katie: that's right.

983

: 00:33:54

Pool Scene Podcast: Weird movie.

984

: 00:33:55

Katie: Yeah.

985

: 00:33:57

Tin Cup?

986

: 00:33:58

Pool Scene Podcast: Oh,

987

: 00:33:59

we covered that.

988

: 00:34:00

We love the

989

: 00:34:01

golf movie.

990

: 00:34:02

Oh, so good.

991

: 00:34:03

Rene Russo, Cheech Marin, romantic comedy.

992

: 00:34:06

Same guy that did white men can't

993

: 00:34:07

Katie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

994

: 00:34:09

He did a bunch of sports.

995

: 00:34:10

movies, didn't

996

: 00:34:10

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

997

: 00:34:11

Oh yeah.

998

: 00:34:11

Awesome.

999

: 00:34:13

Katie: Matilda?

: 1000

00:34:15,585 --> 00:34:17,005

Courage Under Fire?

: 1001

00:34:17,686 --> 00:34:18,466

Pool Scene Podcast: Meg Ryan.

: 1002

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Yeah.

: 1003

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Katie: Is that?

: 1004

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Oh, is Denzel Washington in that

or am I thinking of something else?

: 1005

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Pool Scene Podcast: No, I think so.

: 1006

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I want to say courage under

fire to have to do like

: 1007

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helicopters and stuff like that.

: 1008

00:34:27,996 --> 00:34:29,146

And like Meg Ryan Denzel.

: 1009

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I think you're right, Katie.

: 1010

00:34:30,591 --> 00:34:31,431

Katie: I could be wrong.

: 1011

00:34:31,741 --> 00:34:32,761

Phenomenon,

: 1012

00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:33,271

didn't you

: 1013

00:34:33,396 --> 00:34:33,726

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah,

: 1014

00:34:34,216 --> 00:34:34,556

there we go.

: 1015

00:34:34,630 --> 00:34:35,841

Katie: yeah, Phenomenon,

: 1016

00:34:36,846 --> 00:34:37,426

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

: 1017

00:34:39,315 --> 00:34:39,525

posts.

: 1018

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Yeah.

: 1019

00:34:39,846 --> 00:34:41,686

Post Pulp Fiction was

like, give me everything.

: 1020

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I want it all.

: 1021

00:34:43,071 --> 00:34:44,478

Katie: he did.

: 1022

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He

: 1023

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Pool Scene Podcast: I

: 1024

00:34:46,106 --> 00:34:48,045

call phenomenon face off face.

: 1025

00:34:48,096 --> 00:34:49,636

I'm doing it all broken era.

: 1026

00:34:49,835 --> 00:34:50,896

You face waterfalls.

: 1027

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Katie: they're all the same movie

: 1028

00:34:53,531 --> 00:34:53,920

sort of,

: 1029

00:34:54,431 --> 00:34:56,781

Chain reaction, which I

can't recall what that is.

: 1030

00:34:56,801 --> 00:34:59,471

And then Kingpin rounding

: 1031

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Pool Scene Podcast: yeah,

: 1032

00:35:00,286 --> 00:35:00,576

chain

: 1033

00:35:00,576 --> 00:35:02,116

reaction is it's,

: 1034

00:35:02,406 --> 00:35:04,186

Keanu Reeves, Morgan Freeman.

: 1035

00:35:04,566 --> 00:35:07,516

They try to solve or

create nuclear fusion.

: 1036

00:35:07,596 --> 00:35:09,896

It's a very underrated movie.

: 1037

00:35:10,436 --> 00:35:14,596

I would recommend that if you can find it,

I'm pretty sure it's available in places.

: 1038

00:35:15,816 --> 00:35:17,426

The DVD cover looks really cheap.

: 1039

00:35:17,486 --> 00:35:17,826

It's bad.

: 1040

00:35:17,856 --> 00:35:20,566

It looks like you, you were reading

in Walmart and you're like, Oh,

: 1041

00:35:20,566 --> 00:35:21,376

I'm going to buy that movie.

: 1042

00:35:21,386 --> 00:35:24,776

It looks like when they try to

cash in on like an actor, who's

: 1043

00:35:24,826 --> 00:35:25,836

has like a sudden

: 1044

00:35:26,046 --> 00:35:28,186

And it's they re release

one of their old movies.

: 1045

00:35:28,436 --> 00:35:29,246

That's like what it looks like.

: 1046

00:35:29,986 --> 00:35:31,326

I think Kingpin, Fairly Brothers.

: 1047

00:35:31,346 --> 00:35:32,026

Oh, so good.

: 1048

00:35:32,196 --> 00:35:32,566

Awesome.

: 1049

00:35:32,576 --> 00:35:33,606

Also has Goldfinger.

: 1050

00:35:33,696 --> 00:35:34,696

Yes, that's right.

: 1051

00:35:36,586 --> 00:35:37,646

Katie: Is that Woody Harrelson?

: 1052

00:35:37,646 --> 00:35:38,826

Who, who's in?

: 1053

00:35:38,956 --> 00:35:39,306

Yeah.

: 1054

00:35:39,586 --> 00:35:41,756

Pool Scene Podcast: Roy

Munson, Randy Quaid's in that.

: 1055

00:35:41,976 --> 00:35:42,366

Katie: Yeah.

: 1056

00:35:42,416 --> 00:35:43,486

I like Woody.

: 1057

00:35:43,816 --> 00:35:44,216

Yeah.

: 1058

00:35:45,176 --> 00:35:45,776

Pool Scene Podcast: So good.

: 1059

00:35:46,066 --> 00:35:48,436

Katie: Before we get going on

our movie talk, I have a couple

: 1060

00:35:48,436 --> 00:35:49,636

of, questions for you guys

: 1061

00:35:50,236 --> 00:35:50,756

Pool Scene Podcast: Alrighty.

: 1062

00:35:50,816 --> 00:35:54,316

Katie: about our Everymen on RetroMade.

: 1063

00:35:54,316 --> 00:35:55,506

This season is.

: 1064

00:35:55,506 --> 00:35:59,656

the ultimate Everymen, both

Patrick Swayze And Kurt Russell.

: 1065

00:36:00,206 --> 00:36:01,366

Do you guys have any

: 1066

00:36:02,836 --> 00:36:04,456

fandom thoughts?

: 1067

00:36:05,786 --> 00:36:07,636

Anything that you would like

to share about either of them?

: 1068

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Pool Scene Podcast: So Patrick Swayze,

my, my ex girlfriend was a dance teacher.

: 1069

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The studio she taught at,

: 1070

00:36:16,196 --> 00:36:22,136

That woman who owned it Kathy Magritte,

she danced with Patrick Swayze.

: 1071

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Katie: What?

: 1072

00:36:23,156 --> 00:36:27,916

Pool Scene Podcast: so used to give like

anecdotes about young Patrick Swayze

: 1073

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and basically how

: 1074

00:36:30,076 --> 00:36:34,216

he had wished to be a womanizer, but

they weren't really all that interested

: 1075

00:36:34,216 --> 00:36:36,616

at that age in Patrick Swayze.

: 1076

00:36:36,676 --> 00:36:38,556

But yeah, I, I love Swayze.

: 1077

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I love the

: 1078

00:36:40,216 --> 00:36:41,856

versatility of

: 1079

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dirty dancing and leaning into his

past as a dancer, but then doing.

: 1080

00:36:46,746 --> 00:36:50,086

Roadhouse and point break.

: 1081

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I mean, as Bodie

: 1082

00:36:51,816 --> 00:36:52,916

and coolest,

: 1083

00:36:53,216 --> 00:36:54,286

he can sing and he can say,

: 1084

00:36:54,406 --> 00:36:55,006

Katie: yeah,

: 1085

00:36:55,236 --> 00:36:57,976

Pool Scene Podcast: yeah,

: 1086

00:36:57,996 --> 00:36:58,716

Katie: certain.

: 1087

00:37:00,116 --> 00:37:02,326

Pool Scene Podcast: it's a, it's a

great drunk song to sing at your best

: 1088

00:37:02,326 --> 00:37:04,076

friend's wedding out on the dance floor.

: 1089

00:37:04,766 --> 00:37:05,256

I sang it.

: 1090

00:37:05,916 --> 00:37:06,256

Katie: she's

: 1091

00:37:06,421 --> 00:37:08,981

Pool Scene Podcast: His, it was like, it

wasn't your first dance, but it was one.

: 1092

00:37:08,981 --> 00:37:10,111

Oh, it wasn't my first day.

: 1093

00:37:10,111 --> 00:37:12,311

I was very, very drunk.

: 1094

00:37:12,331 --> 00:37:13,601

Don't listen to the usher cover.

: 1095

00:37:13,601 --> 00:37:14,121

If she's like

: 1096

00:37:14,121 --> 00:37:14,511

the wind.

: 1097

00:37:16,871 --> 00:37:19,701

but Kurt Russell, for me, like I

mentioned it in escape from New

: 1098

00:37:19,701 --> 00:37:23,311

York, I grew up with Kurt Russell in

the Disney movies where, you know,

: 1099

00:37:23,321 --> 00:37:25,201

he was playing Dexter Riley and

: 1100

00:37:25,971 --> 00:37:27,311

the computer were tennis shoes.

: 1101

00:37:27,311 --> 00:37:28,091

I love that.

: 1102

00:37:28,121 --> 00:37:28,501

And.

: 1103

00:37:28,996 --> 00:37:32,486

I remember a kid running overboard

from first row video and then

: 1104

00:37:32,486 --> 00:37:35,606

you watch overboard now you're

like whoa You could not get it.

: 1105

00:37:35,616 --> 00:37:40,266

This guy literally duped a woman Into

becoming his wife and lying and say she

: 1106

00:37:40,266 --> 00:37:42,006

has kids you pull that stuff up nowadays.

: 1107

00:37:42,016 --> 00:37:44,376

You're serving 15 to 20, but

: 1108

00:37:44,586 --> 00:37:44,876

Katie: so

: 1109

00:37:44,876 --> 00:37:45,536

good.

: 1110

00:37:46,266 --> 00:37:47,466

Pool Scene Podcast: Great like that

: 1111

00:37:47,816 --> 00:37:52,111

overboard Theme song when me and my

girlfriend watch that she goes into this

: 1112

00:37:52,111 --> 00:37:57,311

full spasm when that song comes on Like

she'll start kicking on the floor because

: 1113

00:37:57,311 --> 00:38:00,361

she like she gets all hyper It's our happy

: 1114

00:38:00,951 --> 00:38:02,751

like she's like the wind is my happy song.

: 1115

00:38:02,761 --> 00:38:07,231

Her happy song is the theme

song to Overboard and um, cash

: 1116

00:38:07,231 --> 00:38:08,751

is themed from tango and cash,

: 1117

00:38:08,856 --> 00:38:11,196

Katie: Oh, good choices.

: 1118

00:38:11,561 --> 00:38:12,711

Pool Scene Podcast: which is a weird song.

: 1119

00:38:12,961 --> 00:38:13,911

That song makes a note

: 1120

00:38:14,481 --> 00:38:15,661

at all that movie

: 1121

00:38:17,321 --> 00:38:17,931

Kurt Russell.

: 1122

00:38:17,971 --> 00:38:21,551

He's just has this whole other

like X factor, a layer of cool.

: 1123

00:38:21,641 --> 00:38:21,981

Yeah.

: 1124

00:38:22,031 --> 00:38:26,071

And in death proof, Quentin Tarantino's

death proof, he plays stunt man, Mike,

: 1125

00:38:26,671 --> 00:38:29,161

and he's just like the coolest dude.

: 1126

00:38:29,171 --> 00:38:32,661

Well, for most of the time, spoiler

free for Jim, who hasn't seen that.

: 1127

00:38:32,691 --> 00:38:33,301

No, I have not.

: 1128

00:38:33,351 --> 00:38:36,591

But he's just, he just exudes

this, something that Kurt Russell

: 1129

00:38:36,591 --> 00:38:38,201

has in every movie he's in.

: 1130

00:38:38,311 --> 00:38:40,221

And he's in the Fast

and Furious franchise.

: 1131

00:38:40,221 --> 00:38:40,651

He's Mr.

: 1132

00:38:40,651 --> 00:38:41,221

Nobody.

: 1133

00:38:41,451 --> 00:38:43,741

So it makes it even better,

except Fast X really sucked.

: 1134

00:38:44,431 --> 00:38:45,521

Katie: I haven't seen those.

: 1135

00:38:45,561 --> 00:38:45,671

I

: 1136

00:38:45,671 --> 00:38:45,941

kind of

: 1137

00:38:45,941 --> 00:38:48,651

refuse to watch them, but

yeah, I hear Kurt sent them.

: 1138

00:38:49,141 --> 00:38:49,601

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

: 1139

00:38:50,061 --> 00:38:50,891

Last three.

: 1140

00:38:51,631 --> 00:38:51,891

three.

: 1141

00:38:51,931 --> 00:38:54,071

I mean, he's not like

a, like a feature in it.

: 1142

00:38:54,071 --> 00:38:56,121

Like he's a secondary character in there.

: 1143

00:38:56,121 --> 00:38:56,531

yeah.

: 1144

00:38:56,961 --> 00:38:57,341

Katie: I've seen

: 1145

00:38:57,341 --> 00:38:58,391

the first three

: 1146

00:38:58,471 --> 00:38:59,311

Fast and Furious.

: 1147

00:39:00,011 --> 00:39:03,211

Not the latter 18 or

however many there are.

: 1148

00:39:04,221 --> 00:39:05,071

Pool Scene Podcast: Got to watch five.

: 1149

00:39:05,151 --> 00:39:05,411

Yeah.

: 1150

00:39:05,491 --> 00:39:10,051

Five is the, the best one where

it's the perfectly rounded story.

: 1151

00:39:10,061 --> 00:39:11,011

It's great action.

: 1152

00:39:11,391 --> 00:39:11,671

Great.

: 1153

00:39:12,031 --> 00:39:15,011

Probably one of the best action movies,

incredible five, five, really great.

: 1154

00:39:15,061 --> 00:39:16,661

Then law of diminishing

returns, of course,

: 1155

00:39:17,291 --> 00:39:17,761

Katie: Okay.

: 1156

00:39:18,041 --> 00:39:18,771

Fast five.

: 1157

00:39:18,951 --> 00:39:20,351

Maybe I will give it a whirl.

: 1158

00:39:20,891 --> 00:39:21,811

Pool Scene Podcast: starring the rock.

: 1159

00:39:23,611 --> 00:39:24,241

Katie: Yeah,

: 1160

00:39:24,441 --> 00:39:24,861

he is.

: 1161

00:39:25,051 --> 00:39:26,281

He's not a draw for me.

: 1162

00:39:26,341 --> 00:39:27,561

So that's, Yeah,

: 1163

00:39:27,921 --> 00:39:28,671

Pool Scene Podcast: He's everywhere.

: 1164

00:39:28,991 --> 00:39:30,001

Katie: he is everywhere.

: 1165

00:39:30,561 --> 00:39:31,021

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah,

: 1166

00:39:33,511 --> 00:39:33,911

Katie: do you

: 1167

00:39:33,911 --> 00:39:35,321

guys think that Patrick Swayze

: 1168

00:39:35,321 --> 00:39:39,671

and Kurt Russell look alike at all?

: 1169

00:39:40,901 --> 00:39:41,771

Pool Scene Podcast: I can get it.

: 1170

00:39:42,031 --> 00:39:46,921

If if they played brothers in a

movie, I would buy it 87 to 89.

: 1171

00:39:47,141 --> 00:39:49,851

If they did a movie together,

you'd be like, okay, I can

: 1172

00:39:49,851 --> 00:39:51,681

see them playing brothers

: 1173

00:39:52,441 --> 00:39:53,451

independently.

: 1174

00:39:53,451 --> 00:39:54,811

I probably would not.

: 1175

00:39:54,931 --> 00:39:55,251

no,

: 1176

00:39:56,141 --> 00:39:58,541

no, there are certain roles.

: 1177

00:39:58,551 --> 00:40:00,441

I could see them being

interchangeable though.

: 1178

00:40:00,441 --> 00:40:02,091

Like I could see Kurt Russell

: 1179

00:40:02,511 --> 00:40:04,011

switching with Swayze and ghost

: 1180

00:40:05,421 --> 00:40:07,471

Russell be in that role as Sam.

: 1181

00:40:07,471 --> 00:40:07,701

We.

: 1182

00:40:08,396 --> 00:40:10,386

One word, Sam, we, Sam, we

: 1183

00:40:14,046 --> 00:40:15,266

Katie: So you can see him as brothers,

: 1184

00:40:15,276 --> 00:40:17,696

but independently, not so much.

: 1185

00:40:18,066 --> 00:40:18,716

Pool Scene Podcast: not so much

: 1186

00:40:19,396 --> 00:40:19,836

Katie: Okay.

: 1187

00:40:20,936 --> 00:40:22,056

Pool Scene Podcast:

still handsome as hell.

: 1188

00:40:22,326 --> 00:40:22,586

Yeah.

: 1189

00:40:22,596 --> 00:40:22,976

You know,

: 1190

00:40:23,779 --> 00:40:25,629

, Katie: shall we get into the movie?

: 1191

00:40:25,989 --> 00:40:27,509

Escape from LA.

: 1192

00:40:32,509 --> 00:40:33,189

Pool Scene Podcast: let's do it.

: 1193

00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:35,779

Katie: Now you guys for listeners, you

: 1194

00:40:35,779 --> 00:40:35,929

should

: 1195

00:40:35,929 --> 00:40:37,009

watch the YouTube version

: 1196

00:40:37,009 --> 00:40:40,409

because Jim and Kevin have a super

cool room that they podcast in

: 1197

00:40:40,689 --> 00:40:43,879

with all of their fun things,

and you can see it on display,

: 1198

00:40:43,889 --> 00:40:44,829

including

: 1199

00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:50,329

the cover for escape from LA and a

board game for escape from New York.

: 1200

00:40:50,959 --> 00:40:51,549

Pool Scene Podcast: Yes.

: 1201

00:40:51,739 --> 00:40:52,969

Never knew there was a board game

: 1202

00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:53,719

Katie: I did

: 1203

00:40:53,799 --> 00:40:53,879

Pool Scene Podcast: a

: 1204

00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:54,469

gift.

: 1205

00:40:55,139 --> 00:40:56,099

Yeah, no idea.

: 1206

00:40:56,099 --> 00:40:57,009

I haven't played it,

: 1207

00:40:57,134 --> 00:40:57,364

Katie: Oh, you

: 1208

00:40:57,479 --> 00:40:58,359

Pool Scene Podcast: no, I have not.

: 1209

00:40:58,449 --> 00:41:02,089

My girlfriend found it in the antique

store for 10 bucks and it could

: 1210

00:41:02,089 --> 00:41:04,579

be one of these things we end up

playing, but it's literally a map

: 1211

00:41:04,579 --> 00:41:07,899

of, of Liberty Manhattan Island,

and you're just trying to literally

: 1212

00:41:08,349 --> 00:41:08,899

escape,

: 1213

00:41:09,734 --> 00:41:10,234

Katie: All right.

: 1214

00:41:11,054 --> 00:41:11,724

I like it.

: 1215

00:41:11,784 --> 00:41:12,524

That's fun.

: 1216

00:41:13,054 --> 00:41:13,904

And is that

: 1217

00:41:13,904 --> 00:41:15,234

the Rockum Sockum?

: 1218

00:41:15,414 --> 00:41:16,634

What's the ring?

: 1219

00:41:17,144 --> 00:41:17,394

Yeah.

: 1220

00:41:17,394 --> 00:41:17,724

Yeah.

: 1221

00:41:17,754 --> 00:41:18,204

Mm hmm.

: 1222

00:41:18,429 --> 00:41:19,389

Pool Scene Podcast: These are WWF

: 1223

00:41:19,669 --> 00:41:21,639

Hasbro characters.

: 1224

00:41:21,699 --> 00:41:23,099

Kevin and I love wrestling

: 1225

00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:26,899

and Kevin gifted me, this

is his WWF Hasbro ring.

: 1226

00:41:27,339 --> 00:41:30,709

So he gifted me this, and

then I just started finding

: 1227

00:41:31,099 --> 00:41:31,919

Hasbro wrestlers.

: 1228

00:41:31,919 --> 00:41:32,589

Cause I'm, I

: 1229

00:41:32,909 --> 00:41:34,199

have a toy room upstairs.

: 1230

00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:35,539

I collect wrestling figures.

: 1231

00:41:36,049 --> 00:41:39,609

So whenever I can find them on the

cheap, like at thrift stores or

: 1232

00:41:39,609 --> 00:41:42,519

something like that, cause some of

these figures now go for insane money,

: 1233

00:41:42,899 --> 00:41:45,009

but if I can find them on the

cheap, we throw them in the ring

: 1234

00:41:45,019 --> 00:41:46,629

like this whole studio down here.

: 1235

00:41:46,649 --> 00:41:47,319

There's yeah.

: 1236

00:41:47,319 --> 00:41:50,429

If you got the full tour, there's,

yeah, there's just a little

: 1237

00:41:50,429 --> 00:41:52,109

bit of everything down here.

: 1238

00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:55,279

Like we were big collectors of

McDonald's merchandise from.

: 1239

00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:57,079

You know, retro McDonald's merchandise.

: 1240

00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:58,029

There's a lot of that.

: 1241

00:41:58,039 --> 00:41:58,489

There's

: 1242

00:41:58,789 --> 00:42:00,359

amusement park stuff.

: 1243

00:42:00,539 --> 00:42:05,999

Turtles movies are Armageddon is

heavily featured in this, in, in the

: 1244

00:42:05,999 --> 00:42:08,899

studio down here because that was

our first episode was Armageddon.

: 1245

00:42:08,939 --> 00:42:09,889

Katie: Very cool room.

: 1246

00:42:09,889 --> 00:42:12,679

I'm very jealous of

all of the memorabilia.

: 1247

00:42:13,434 --> 00:42:15,114

th,: 1996

: 1248

00:42:15,214 --> 00:42:22,514

This movie, as I mentioned, was the

years later to the: 1981

: 1249

00:42:22,574 --> 00:42:26,264

version rated R hour and 41 minutes.

: 1250

00:42:26,644 --> 00:42:28,684

Now I thought this was interesting.

: 1251

00:42:28,694 --> 00:42:29,214

So

: 1252

00:42:29,514 --> 00:42:30,544

the original movie

: 1253

00:42:30,544 --> 00:42:31,364

escaped from New York.

: 1254

00:42:31,734 --> 00:42:35,224

It's IMDb rating was a 7.

: 1255

00:42:35,224 --> 00:42:35,534

1.

: 1256

00:42:36,114 --> 00:42:37,544

It's only a 5.

: 1257

00:42:37,594 --> 00:42:40,194

7 for LA.

: 1258

00:42:42,144 --> 00:42:42,574

Pool Scene Podcast: Fair.

: 1259

00:42:42,734 --> 00:42:43,884

I think it's fair.

: 1260

00:42:44,034 --> 00:42:47,414

I, I think it would have been different

if there would only have been maybe.

: 1261

00:42:47,944 --> 00:42:49,694

A five year gap between the movies.

: 1262

00:42:49,694 --> 00:42:50,074

This is

: 1263

00:42:50,539 --> 00:42:51,099

Katie: Yeah,

: 1264

00:42:51,254 --> 00:42:52,104

Pool Scene Podcast: years later.

: 1265

00:42:52,104 --> 00:42:57,544

And New York also is minimal on like the

comedy and it's gritty, kind of gritty

: 1266

00:42:57,724 --> 00:42:59,344

and more like the warriors or something.

: 1267

00:42:59,344 --> 00:43:02,194

And then LA is we're going

to turn the camp up to 15.

: 1268

00:43:02,284 --> 00:43:04,824

Hey, you guys seen the,

that ESPN extreme games.

: 1269

00:43:04,834 --> 00:43:06,484

How much stuff can we

throw into this movie?

: 1270

00:43:06,484 --> 00:43:08,854

Hand gliding, surfing, you name it.

: 1271

00:43:08,864 --> 00:43:09,814

Basketball.

: 1272

00:43:10,839 --> 00:43:13,099

Katie: I kind of liked the campiness of it

: 1273

00:43:13,189 --> 00:43:13,749

and

: 1274

00:43:13,804 --> 00:43:13,974

Pool Scene Podcast: know.

: 1275

00:43:14,154 --> 00:43:14,184

It's

: 1276

00:43:14,629 --> 00:43:19,549

Katie: yeah, and because there were

so many callbacks to the original and

: 1277

00:43:19,549 --> 00:43:21,599

it followed the exact same formula.

: 1278

00:43:21,659 --> 00:43:23,349

It was somehow comforting to me.

: 1279

00:43:23,349 --> 00:43:24,559

I very much liked it.

: 1280

00:43:24,999 --> 00:43:28,999

But I don't think other

viewers did because they

: 1281

00:43:29,019 --> 00:43:30,939

spent 50Million dollars on it.

: 1282

00:43:31,699 --> 00:43:34,489

10 of which went to Kurt Russell's salary.

: 1283

00:43:35,124 --> 00:43:35,994

Did you guys know that?

: 1284

00:43:36,024 --> 00:43:36,474

Yeah.

: 1285

00:43:38,124 --> 00:43:42,344

And then it only grossed 42 million,

so it didn't make its money back.

: 1286

00:43:42,354 --> 00:43:43,054

But I think it's

: 1287

00:43:43,424 --> 00:43:43,884

similar.

: 1288

00:43:43,884 --> 00:43:45,674

Like a lot of John Carpenter movies.

: 1289

00:43:47,139 --> 00:43:47,299

It

: 1290

00:43:47,299 --> 00:43:47,869

becomes like,

: 1291

00:43:47,869 --> 00:43:49,959

a cult favorite later.

: 1292

00:43:50,709 --> 00:43:52,109

So that's sort of the same

: 1293

00:43:52,109 --> 00:43:52,509

here.

: 1294

00:43:52,999 --> 00:43:53,839

Pool Scene Podcast: His niche.

: 1295

00:43:54,739 --> 00:43:57,759

and it's and then reading about

this, that they wanted to do the

: 1296

00:43:57,759 --> 00:43:59,619

third movie escape from earth.

: 1297

00:43:59,659 --> 00:44:03,799

I'm just like, how the hell is he going

to escape from there's no electricity

: 1298

00:44:03,799 --> 00:44:05,499

now, spoiler alert, but still.

: 1299

00:44:06,274 --> 00:44:07,784

Katie: Because of how

it ended, it was kind

: 1300

00:44:07,784 --> 00:44:11,864

of set up for us for a, third movie, but

then they're like, Oh, this one tanked.

: 1301

00:44:11,874 --> 00:44:12,214

So

: 1302

00:44:12,594 --> 00:44:13,974

we're not doing that now.

: 1303

00:44:14,604 --> 00:44:20,689

But . so you guys, if you haven't seen

escape from New York, Or I'm sorry, well,

: 1304

00:44:20,919 --> 00:44:23,489

either way, if you haven't seen that

movie, watch it and then watch escape

: 1305

00:44:23,489 --> 00:44:31,499

from LA, but the year is: 2013

Plissken is once again, called in by

: 1306

00:44:31,499 --> 00:44:36,229

the United States government to recover

a potential doomsday device from Los

: 1307

00:44:36,229 --> 00:44:36,869

Angeles.

: 1308

00:44:37,339 --> 00:44:38,069

Now

: 1309

00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,749

an autonomous island where

undesirables are deported.

: 1310

00:44:43,339 --> 00:44:45,949

Pool Scene Podcast: Well,

so the president predicts

: 1311

00:44:46,489 --> 00:44:47,919

that there will be an earthquake.

: 1312

00:44:47,929 --> 00:44:49,479

The president is Nostradamus.

: 1313

00:44:49,509 --> 00:44:49,929

Yes.

: 1314

00:44:49,969 --> 00:44:50,569

He's a presidential

: 1315

00:44:50,829 --> 00:44:54,889

candidate who predicts that there will

be an earthquake that will break LA

: 1316

00:44:54,929 --> 00:44:58,199

off the big ocean, which then happens.

: 1317

00:44:58,199 --> 00:44:58,339

Yes.

: 1318

00:44:58,694 --> 00:45:03,284

Which then secures him the presidency, and

then they make him the president for life.

: 1319

00:45:03,284 --> 00:45:04,154

Make him president for life.

: 1320

00:45:04,164 --> 00:45:04,994

And so LA,

: 1321

00:45:05,149 --> 00:45:05,609

Katie: yeah.

: 1322

00:45:05,609 --> 00:45:05,679

Yeah.

: 1323

00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:06,339

And

: 1324

00:45:06,494 --> 00:45:06,844

Pool Scene Podcast: it's a full

: 1325

00:45:07,144 --> 00:45:08,154

island now.

: 1326

00:45:08,509 --> 00:45:10,499

Katie: and you get sent there for

: 1327

00:45:10,539 --> 00:45:11,499

moral offenses.

: 1328

00:45:11,499 --> 00:45:12,019

like, it's a

: 1329

00:45:12,049 --> 00:45:13,019

theocracy now.

: 1330

00:45:13,019 --> 00:45:15,159

The United States is now a theocracy.

: 1331

00:45:15,649 --> 00:45:16,179

So

: 1332

00:45:16,219 --> 00:45:17,119

if you're an atheist,

: 1333

00:45:17,409 --> 00:45:18,359

you get deported.

: 1334

00:45:18,649 --> 00:45:20,849

if You're the wrong

religion, like if you're not,

: 1335

00:45:20,909 --> 00:45:21,889

Christian, you

: 1336

00:45:21,889 --> 00:45:22,059

get

: 1337

00:45:22,224 --> 00:45:22,454

Pool Scene Podcast: You're done.

: 1338

00:45:22,454 --> 00:45:22,974

And

: 1339

00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:25,899

Katie: If you drink, you smoke,

you have sex before marriage.

: 1340

00:45:25,899 --> 00:45:26,989

There's all these things you

: 1341

00:45:27,244 --> 00:45:28,204

Pool Scene Podcast: you get your choice.

: 1342

00:45:28,454 --> 00:45:30,204

So, you arrive in LA,

: 1343

00:45:30,514 --> 00:45:31,704

and then it's either

: 1344

00:45:32,544 --> 00:45:35,394

you lose your citizenship to

the United States, and you can

: 1345

00:45:35,394 --> 00:45:37,654

proceed into Los Angeles, or

: 1346

00:45:38,114 --> 00:45:39,214

electrocuted to death.

: 1347

00:45:39,394 --> 00:45:40,444

Yeah, great options there.

: 1348

00:45:40,504 --> 00:45:42,004

Which is just right out in the open.

: 1349

00:45:42,224 --> 00:45:42,764

Jesus.

: 1350

00:45:42,779 --> 00:45:43,289

Katie: It is.

: 1351

00:45:43,384 --> 00:45:44,849

the first one had that too.

: 1352

00:45:44,849 --> 00:45:45,329

It just wasn't

: 1353

00:45:45,329 --> 00:45:46,119

electrocution.

: 1354

00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:46,439

And it was

: 1355

00:45:46,449 --> 00:45:51,269

like, You had the option to

be cremated or something,

: 1356

00:45:52,199 --> 00:45:54,989

Pool Scene Podcast: I I do like

the fact too that the president

: 1357

00:45:55,499 --> 00:46:00,784

because he's so morally, you know,

yeah Amazing that he decides to

: 1358

00:46:00,784 --> 00:46:03,484

move the capital of the United

States from Washington, D.

: 1359

00:46:03,484 --> 00:46:03,984

C.

: 1360

00:46:04,304 --> 00:46:07,804

To his hometown of Lynchburg, Virginia.

: 1361

00:46:08,144 --> 00:46:08,504

So

: 1362

00:46:08,579 --> 00:46:09,699

Katie: 30 minutes away?

: 1363

00:46:09,699 --> 00:46:11,319

I mean, how far away is that?

: 1364

00:46:11,874 --> 00:46:13,374

Pool Scene Podcast: listen, I

don't like to make you it into

: 1365

00:46:13,374 --> 00:46:15,234

4 95 to go to the white house.

: 1366

00:46:15,294 --> 00:46:16,764

So, you know, I'm here at my house.

: 1367

00:46:16,844 --> 00:46:17,724

It's a nice little ranch.

: 1368

00:46:17,724 --> 00:46:18,864

I don't have to go upstairs.

: 1369

00:46:19,054 --> 00:46:19,794

I'm gonna do it here in Lynchburg.

: 1370

00:46:20,564 --> 00:46:24,644

Meanwhile, He just seems to want to hang

out in Los Angeles or is it his hologram?

: 1371

00:46:25,774 --> 00:46:27,194

Jesus, that's been a lot of time.

: 1372

00:46:27,214 --> 00:46:27,474

Yeah.

: 1373

00:46:27,824 --> 00:46:28,454

The thing I like

: 1374

00:46:28,924 --> 00:46:32,074

about the setting of: 2013

when they see snake and they say

: 1375

00:46:32,544 --> 00:46:33,634

that snake Plissken,

: 1376

00:46:34,314 --> 00:46:35,774

he looks so retro.

: 1377

00:46:36,504 --> 00:46:40,454

So 20th century, it was

13 years ago, 13 years.

: 1378

00:46:40,454 --> 00:46:41,794

So 20th century.

: 1379

00:46:41,824 --> 00:46:42,254

Yeah.

: 1380

00:46:42,629 --> 00:46:44,759

Katie: But actually now

that you guys say this feels

: 1381

00:46:44,759 --> 00:46:44,979

like a

: 1382

00:46:44,979 --> 00:46:45,279

later

: 1383

00:46:45,279 --> 00:46:47,739

movie, it's because it

was supposed to have been

: 1384

00:46:47,894 --> 00:46:48,104

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

: 1385

00:46:48,749 --> 00:46:50,789

Katie: in the future at the time.

: 1386

00:46:51,219 --> 00:46:55,644

But yeah, so he wears a In the beginning

of the movie, he's wearing his original

: 1387

00:46:55,644 --> 00:46:59,834

Snake Plissken outfit, and that's,

that's what they're, but then he does

: 1388

00:46:59,834 --> 00:47:00,074

get a

: 1389

00:47:00,074 --> 00:47:00,654

new,

: 1390

00:47:01,814 --> 00:47:04,814

like, all black, fire

retardant Outfit with

: 1391

00:47:04,814 --> 00:47:05,804

A long trench coat

: 1392

00:47:06,479 --> 00:47:07,569

Pool Scene Podcast: Completely bad ass.

: 1393

00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:08,009

Yeah.

: 1394

00:47:08,049 --> 00:47:08,149

It's

: 1395

00:47:08,324 --> 00:47:09,114

Katie: super cool

: 1396

00:47:09,134 --> 00:47:10,194

outfit But

: 1397

00:47:10,294 --> 00:47:12,164

Kurt was still able to fit

: 1398

00:47:12,174 --> 00:47:12,854

into his

: 1399

00:47:13,364 --> 00:47:14,854

same outfit from 15 years ago.

: 1400

00:47:15,899 --> 00:47:16,659

Pool Scene Podcast: I

wish I could say the same.

: 1401

00:47:16,824 --> 00:47:17,644

Katie: I know I was like I'm

: 1402

00:47:17,644 --> 00:47:19,874

not sure I'm not sure I could do that

: 1403

00:47:20,534 --> 00:47:20,754

Pool Scene Podcast: No.

: 1404

00:47:22,284 --> 00:47:24,554

Katie: But so we mentioned John

Carpenter obviously he's the

: 1405

00:47:24,554 --> 00:47:28,564

director of this and This is

: 1406

00:47:28,564 --> 00:47:31,254

his fifth collaboration with Kurt Russell.

: 1407

00:47:32,324 --> 00:47:34,014

I love their little bromance they have.

: 1408

00:47:34,604 --> 00:47:36,814

And then the same writers Deborah Hill,

: 1409

00:47:36,814 --> 00:47:42,334

Nick Castle, John Carpenter, but also

Kurt is credited for writing this, parts

: 1410

00:47:42,334 --> 00:47:42,514

of

: 1411

00:47:42,514 --> 00:47:43,534

this as well.

: 1412

00:47:43,974 --> 00:47:47,834

And I think this is only,

has he written anything else?

: 1413

00:47:48,224 --> 00:47:48,704

I wonder.

: 1414

00:47:49,084 --> 00:47:49,164

I

: 1415

00:47:49,344 --> 00:47:50,001

Pool Scene Podcast: I

don't know where it is.

: 1416

00:47:50,001 --> 00:47:51,544

Is it off the top of my head?

: 1417

00:47:53,439 --> 00:47:58,729

Katie: The music is familiar because it's

also John Carpenter with Shirley Walker.

: 1418

00:47:58,729 --> 00:48:00,389

I think it was the same in

: 1419

00:48:00,399 --> 00:48:01,349

the original.

: 1420

00:48:01,989 --> 00:48:04,979

So Kurt's reprising his role as snake.

: 1421

00:48:06,059 --> 00:48:07,619

,

Pool Scene Podcast: Still don't know to this day what SD

: 1422

00:48:08,009 --> 00:48:08,309

stood

: 1423

00:48:08,324 --> 00:48:09,074

Katie: Yes.

: 1424

00:48:09,154 --> 00:48:10,154

Well, I wonder if it was.

: 1425

00:48:11,384 --> 00:48:12,684

Because his name's Bob.

: 1426

00:48:12,704 --> 00:48:13,264

it's S.

: 1427

00:48:13,264 --> 00:48:13,514

D.

: 1428

00:48:13,514 --> 00:48:14,894

Bob Plissken.

: 1429

00:48:14,924 --> 00:48:15,374

So,

: 1430

00:48:16,044 --> 00:48:21,444

Pool Scene Podcast: I hope it's not like

Steven, Daniel, Bob Plissken, or is it

: 1431

00:48:22,324 --> 00:48:22,874

Robert?

: 1432

00:48:22,974 --> 00:48:23,944

Yeah, good point.

: 1433

00:48:24,754 --> 00:48:27,324

Katie: Yeah, that is interesting.

: 1434

00:48:27,724 --> 00:48:32,014

So Kurt is 45 at the time of filming this.

: 1435

00:48:33,374 --> 00:48:34,824

Pool Scene Podcast: That's

crazy to think about that.

: 1436

00:48:34,824 --> 00:48:36,214

He's 45 years old there.

: 1437

00:48:36,214 --> 00:48:37,314

I'm 42.

: 1438

00:48:38,074 --> 00:48:39,684

God dang, , he still looks great.

: 1439

00:48:39,714 --> 00:48:40,454

And he's in the 60s.

: 1440

00:48:40,974 --> 00:48:41,874

I mean, come on.

: 1441

00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:43,859

Katie: I mean, he's got

a little bit of a belly,

: 1442

00:48:44,529 --> 00:48:44,999

but,

: 1443

00:48:45,054 --> 00:48:45,554

Pool Scene Podcast: I mean, it's

: 1444

00:48:45,824 --> 00:48:46,334

natural.

: 1445

00:48:46,639 --> 00:48:48,629

Katie: we get a Steve Buscemi in this.

: 1446

00:48:48,659 --> 00:48:49,059

So you

: 1447

00:48:49,059 --> 00:48:49,299

guys,

: 1448

00:48:49,359 --> 00:48:50,969

again, if you haven't seen it, Steve

: 1449

00:48:51,274 --> 00:48:51,454

Pool Scene Podcast: he's

: 1450

00:48:52,154 --> 00:48:53,444

Eddie map of the stars.

: 1451

00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,679

I just, I want to know why he's

so clean and well dressed in this.

: 1452

00:48:58,759 --> 00:48:59,159

Yeah.

: 1453

00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:02,589

Cause it's like post apocalyptic

literally prison Island

: 1454

00:49:03,089 --> 00:49:04,799

and like everybody, everything's on fire.

: 1455

00:49:05,029 --> 00:49:05,649

It's weird though.

: 1456

00:49:05,729 --> 00:49:06,909

The first movie

: 1457

00:49:07,279 --> 00:49:09,579

you get the vibe that it's a

prison Island because you have

: 1458

00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:11,599

soldiers, you have enforcement.

: 1459

00:49:12,019 --> 00:49:14,149

This one just feels Oh,

there was an earthquake.

: 1460

00:49:14,299 --> 00:49:15,319

People got stranded there.

: 1461

00:49:15,609 --> 00:49:18,809

Oh, well, I don't really see any

enforcement or You know what I mean?

: 1462

00:49:18,849 --> 00:49:21,989

You just have random gangs,

children, and Hondas.

: 1463

00:49:22,279 --> 00:49:22,969

Katie: well, it was the

: 1464

00:49:22,969 --> 00:49:23,919

same in the first one.

: 1465

00:49:23,929 --> 00:49:27,259

There were no prison

guards inside New York

: 1466

00:49:27,269 --> 00:49:28,969

in the same way that there wasn't here.

: 1467

00:49:28,969 --> 00:49:32,329

It's there's a wall built

around the now island.

: 1468

00:49:32,339 --> 00:49:32,359

Yeah.

: 1469

00:49:32,859 --> 00:49:33,689

of LA.

: 1470

00:49:34,099 --> 00:49:35,929

So I, I took it

: 1471

00:49:35,939 --> 00:49:37,189

to be the same as the

: 1472

00:49:37,189 --> 00:49:40,509

first in that you're just left to your

own devices and gangs will rise up

: 1473

00:49:40,819 --> 00:49:42,769

and some leader will take

: 1474

00:49:42,879 --> 00:49:46,209

Pool Scene Podcast: Do you happen

to watch Kirby Enthusiasm, Katie?

: 1475

00:49:46,509 --> 00:49:47,789

Katie: Not regularly.

: 1476

00:49:48,869 --> 00:49:52,039

Pool Scene Podcast: So the new

season, Steve Buscemi was on

: 1477

00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:53,569

one of the the newest episodes.

: 1478

00:49:54,729 --> 00:49:56,139

He has not aged.

: 1479

00:49:56,189 --> 00:49:59,349

Like, I had to double take, cause you

see him in this, you're like, wow, it's

: 1480

00:49:59,349 --> 00:50:03,579

like, it's the Steve Buscemi we have

all around, and granted, everybody ages.

: 1481

00:50:04,024 --> 00:50:08,134

But I saw, I was like, Whoa,

did not age gracefully.

: 1482

00:50:08,254 --> 00:50:10,204

Unfortunately still love

Steve Buscemi though.

: 1483

00:50:10,229 --> 00:50:12,919

Katie: I thought you were going to say

that you didn't think he aged at all.

: 1484

00:50:12,919 --> 00:50:14,079

I'm like, Oh, he looks the same.

: 1485

00:50:14,319 --> 00:50:14,769

You're like, no,

: 1486

00:50:14,769 --> 00:50:15,039

no.

: 1487

00:50:16,164 --> 00:50:16,874

Pool Scene Podcast: have you.

: 1488

00:50:16,874 --> 00:50:20,664

I had the double take and I was like,

Oh my God, that is Steve Buscemi.

: 1489

00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:25,249

Katie: He's probably,

I don't know, 70 maybe.

: 1490

00:50:25,264 --> 00:50:26,904

Pool Scene Podcast: He's got

to be up there around seven.

: 1491

00:50:26,904 --> 00:50:29,454

I mean, Larry David's in

his mid seventies now, so

: 1492

00:50:31,369 --> 00:50:33,269

Katie: then commander Malloy or

: 1493

00:50:33,279 --> 00:50:33,919

Malloy.

: 1494

00:50:34,469 --> 00:50:36,319

is played by Stacy Keach.

: 1495

00:50:36,804 --> 00:50:40,654

Pool Scene Podcast: yeah, he's

our lead in cleave adjacent.

: 1496

00:50:40,749 --> 00:50:41,849

Katie: yes, he is.

: 1497

00:50:42,929 --> 00:50:45,829

Now I loved the girl who played Utopia.

: 1498

00:50:46,509 --> 00:50:46,649

So

: 1499

00:50:46,649 --> 00:50:48,069

Utopia is the

: 1500

00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:49,259

president's daughter.

: 1501

00:50:49,879 --> 00:50:51,939

And it's quite ironic

that he names his daughter

: 1502

00:50:51,939 --> 00:50:52,589

Utopia.

: 1503

00:50:53,654 --> 00:50:54,124

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

: 1504

00:50:54,989 --> 00:50:58,409

Katie: but her name, the

actress's name is AJ Langer.

: 1505

00:50:58,769 --> 00:50:59,049

And he,

: 1506

00:50:59,094 --> 00:50:59,784

Pool Scene Podcast: She was in a lot of

: 1507

00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:02,069

Katie: my so called

life, please tell me you

: 1508

00:51:02,069 --> 00:51:02,859

guys watched that.

: 1509

00:51:03,154 --> 00:51:04,254

Pool Scene Podcast: No Claire Danes.

: 1510

00:51:04,254 --> 00:51:05,394

Yeah.

: 1511

00:51:05,449 --> 00:51:05,789

Katie: Yeah.

: 1512

00:51:05,789 --> 00:51:07,319

So AJ played Claire's

: 1513

00:51:07,429 --> 00:51:07,869

like

: 1514

00:51:08,699 --> 00:51:09,459

badass.

: 1515

00:51:10,234 --> 00:51:11,994

Best friend Raeann

: 1516

00:51:12,294 --> 00:51:12,644

in that

: 1517

00:51:12,914 --> 00:51:13,544

Pool Scene Podcast: I remember that.

: 1518

00:51:15,074 --> 00:51:15,394

Katie: yeah, she

: 1519

00:51:15,394 --> 00:51:15,834

is in a lot.

: 1520

00:51:15,834 --> 00:51:16,714

I haven't really seen her in

: 1521

00:51:16,714 --> 00:51:21,664

anything lately Except I think she

married into some sort of like royalty

: 1522

00:51:22,349 --> 00:51:24,639

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah, she's

she's a dame or something like that.

: 1523

00:51:25,059 --> 00:51:25,529

Interesting.

: 1524

00:51:26,284 --> 00:51:30,494

Katie: And then, the kind

of the leader bad guy of the

: 1525

00:51:30,614 --> 00:51:31,204

prison

: 1526

00:51:31,824 --> 00:51:36,354

his name in this is Cuervo Jones

: 1527

00:51:37,449 --> 00:51:37,869

Pool Scene Podcast: about Jones?

: 1528

00:51:38,149 --> 00:51:40,999

And then, And when you

research this actor, he's

: 1529

00:51:41,279 --> 00:51:44,069

of Greek and Greek, Italian,

Greek French descent.

: 1530

00:51:44,449 --> 00:51:46,909

And he's playing a Latin terrorist.

: 1531

00:51:46,949 --> 00:51:48,939

And he's a Che Guevara.

: 1532

00:51:49,009 --> 00:51:51,309

Oh, he's a, he's

completely a revolutionary.

: 1533

00:51:51,399 --> 00:51:52,579

Katie: who he's supposed to be.

: 1534

00:51:52,589 --> 00:51:52,919

Yeah.

: 1535

00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:53,889

Played

: 1536

00:51:53,919 --> 00:51:54,409

Pool Scene Podcast: just like.

: 1537

00:51:55,059 --> 00:51:56,399

Katie: georges Coraface.

: 1538

00:51:57,089 --> 00:51:57,659

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

: 1539

00:51:57,849 --> 00:51:59,589

But just like the Duke,

: 1540

00:52:00,049 --> 00:52:01,769

I'm not real threatened by this guy.

: 1541

00:52:02,149 --> 00:52:05,109

This guy just is like, Hey, I want

to get all these people off the

: 1542

00:52:05,109 --> 00:52:06,939

island, take back the country.

: 1543

00:52:06,939 --> 00:52:08,769

And I did think okay,

: 1544

00:52:09,419 --> 00:52:11,659

something that reinforced his

: 1545

00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:17,619

power is that the dude regularly

has parades where he sits

: 1546

00:52:17,619 --> 00:52:18,959

on the back of a vehicle.

: 1547

00:52:19,329 --> 00:52:22,859

If somebody wanted to take him

out, it would be very easy to do,

: 1548

00:52:23,219 --> 00:52:26,529

but it kind of establishes that they're

behind this guy because otherwise.

: 1549

00:52:28,204 --> 00:52:31,344

You'd have every opportunity to

eliminate Cuervo if you wanted.

: 1550

00:52:31,354 --> 00:52:34,174

We also need to establish the fact

that just like the Duke and his

: 1551

00:52:34,174 --> 00:52:37,854

chandeliers on his car, Cuervo

has a disco ball on the back of

: 1552

00:52:38,194 --> 00:52:39,179

Katie: Yes, I love it.

: 1553

00:52:39,229 --> 00:52:41,209

There's a yin to

: 1554

00:52:41,209 --> 00:52:42,639

every yang in this

: 1555

00:52:42,639 --> 00:52:43,299

movie.

: 1556

00:52:43,619 --> 00:52:47,239

Or that's not the right metaphor, but

There's the same beats and I kind of

: 1557

00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:47,919

liked it.

: 1558

00:52:48,119 --> 00:52:50,399

Maybe it was even a Cadillac,

but It was a convertible and

: 1559

00:52:50,399 --> 00:52:51,879

it had a disco ball, but with

: 1560

00:52:52,014 --> 00:52:52,914

Pool Scene Podcast: It popped me.

: 1561

00:52:53,429 --> 00:52:54,129

Katie: doll heads.

: 1562

00:52:55,124 --> 00:52:57,564

Pool Scene Podcast: There's a

lot of symbolism in this movie.

: 1563

00:52:57,564 --> 00:53:01,014

I mean, we get a group of people

called the Surgical Failures.

: 1564

00:53:01,054 --> 00:53:02,204

Yeah, with Bruce Campbell.

: 1565

00:53:02,234 --> 00:53:04,084

With Bruce Campbell, but Yeah.

: 1566

00:53:04,739 --> 00:53:07,979

Katie: the, well, that it.

: 1567

00:53:07,989 --> 00:53:10,489

was, there because

there's, there was in the

: 1568

00:53:10,489 --> 00:53:14,059

original, there was like the the

people who like eat other people,

: 1569

00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:15,559

the crazies or whatever they

: 1570

00:53:15,734 --> 00:53:16,144

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

: 1571

00:53:16,334 --> 00:53:17,094

Yeah, the crazies.

: 1572

00:53:17,889 --> 00:53:18,439

Katie: in this.

: 1573

00:53:18,459 --> 00:53:18,729

It's

: 1574

00:53:18,729 --> 00:53:19,649

You know, Now,

: 1575

00:53:19,959 --> 00:53:24,429

Beverly Hills is like the bad

part of town, which is ironic.

: 1576

00:53:24,429 --> 00:53:24,809

Right?

: 1577

00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:26,339

And it's all these people.

: 1578

00:53:26,349 --> 00:53:26,849

I felt

: 1579

00:53:26,859 --> 00:53:28,499

like it was a commentary on

: 1580

00:53:28,509 --> 00:53:29,679

Beverly Hills, plastic

: 1581

00:53:29,679 --> 00:53:30,829

surgery because it was

: 1582

00:53:30,879 --> 00:53:32,539

everybody had been there.

: 1583

00:53:32,539 --> 00:53:36,089

All their faces are all ruined by bad

: 1584

00:53:36,554 --> 00:53:37,464

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah,

you have to have contact

: 1585

00:53:37,904 --> 00:53:38,854

plastic surgery.

: 1586

00:53:39,309 --> 00:53:39,869

Katie: And so they,

: 1587

00:53:40,299 --> 00:53:43,149

they kidnap people to use

their spare body parts.

: 1588

00:53:43,289 --> 00:53:44,399

I thought it was kind of funny,

: 1589

00:53:44,679 --> 00:53:46,129

but yeah, it can't be indeed.

: 1590

00:53:46,769 --> 00:53:48,029

But yeah, that Georges.

: 1591

00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:52,219

I feel like that's a French

name that I'm mispronouncing.

: 1592

00:53:52,229 --> 00:53:52,809

Apologies.

: 1593

00:53:52,989 --> 00:53:56,909

He is, I think to your point, yeah,

like Spanish or French, French.

: 1594

00:53:57,879 --> 00:54:00,079

So he's a notable box office draw in

: 1595

00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:00,929

Greece, Spain,

: 1596

00:54:00,969 --> 00:54:01,789

and France

: 1597

00:54:02,349 --> 00:54:06,229

where he lives and is a

popular celebrity there.

: 1598

00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,739

But I don't think he's really

: 1599

00:54:07,954 --> 00:54:08,254

Pool Scene Podcast: it.

: 1600

00:54:08,264 --> 00:54:08,574

John

: 1601

00:54:09,404 --> 00:54:13,014

Carpenter found a deep cut, he's like,

How can I get into this Greek market?

: 1602

00:54:13,014 --> 00:54:14,044

Let's get this dude.

: 1603

00:54:15,354 --> 00:54:16,364

Is he gonna be Greek?

: 1604

00:54:16,464 --> 00:54:18,274

Oh, contrairement frere.

: 1605

00:54:18,304 --> 00:54:19,244

He's gonna be J.

: 1606

00:54:19,414 --> 00:54:20,284

Guevara.

: 1607

00:54:20,284 --> 00:54:20,754

Yeah!

: 1608

00:54:21,649 --> 00:54:22,569

Katie: and that is who he plays.

: 1609

00:54:23,404 --> 00:54:24,024

For sure.

: 1610

00:54:24,614 --> 00:54:25,014

They never

: 1611

00:54:25,014 --> 00:54:25,784

say her name, but

: 1612

00:54:25,794 --> 00:54:27,484

Brazen is the,

: 1613

00:54:27,484 --> 00:54:29,804

it's like the commander's

right hand woman.

: 1614

00:54:31,224 --> 00:54:31,604

You know who I'm

: 1615

00:54:31,614 --> 00:54:31,974

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

: 1616

00:54:32,014 --> 00:54:32,474

Yeah.

: 1617

00:54:32,874 --> 00:54:33,154

Katie: I don't,

: 1618

00:54:33,334 --> 00:54:34,024

Pool Scene Podcast: Michelle Forbes?

: 1619

00:54:34,254 --> 00:54:34,724

Yeah.

: 1620

00:54:35,034 --> 00:54:37,734

Someone you recognize

from a bunch of stuff.

: 1621

00:54:38,014 --> 00:54:38,254

Star Trek.

: 1622

00:54:38,314 --> 00:54:38,454

I

: 1623

00:54:38,454 --> 00:54:39,534

know her from Star Trek.

: 1624

00:54:39,534 --> 00:54:40,774

She was Ensign Roe Laren.

: 1625

00:54:40,884 --> 00:54:41,104

that's,

: 1626

00:54:41,104 --> 00:54:42,574

how I remember Michelle Forbes.

: 1627

00:54:42,749 --> 00:54:44,139

Yeah.

: 1628

00:54:44,154 --> 00:54:45,734

Katie: of stuff mostly TV,

: 1629

00:54:45,734 --> 00:54:46,744

but long running.

: 1630

00:54:46,744 --> 00:54:48,144

She plays characters

: 1631

00:54:48,154 --> 00:54:48,334

that

: 1632

00:54:48,334 --> 00:54:49,474

last a long time.

: 1633

00:54:50,004 --> 00:54:51,834

I think she got her

start in Guiding Light.

: 1634

00:54:52,164 --> 00:54:53,414

I never watched that, but she played

: 1635

00:54:53,414 --> 00:54:54,504

Sunny in Guiding Light.

: 1636

00:54:55,049 --> 00:54:55,959

Um, she was

: 1637

00:54:55,959 --> 00:54:56,929

in the show, the

: 1638

00:54:56,929 --> 00:54:57,609

killing

: 1639

00:54:57,899 --> 00:55:01,859

also true blood homicide

life on the street and 24.

: 1640

00:55:02,839 --> 00:55:03,529

Pool Scene Podcast: She's in one of the

: 1641

00:55:03,789 --> 00:55:04,929

Hunger Games movies,

: 1642

00:55:04,949 --> 00:55:06,309

Katie: She is yes.

: 1643

00:55:06,779 --> 00:55:07,479

Michelle Forbes,

: 1644

00:55:07,849 --> 00:55:09,299

Pool Scene Podcast: plays

like a similar character.

: 1645

00:55:09,919 --> 00:55:14,719

Katie: and then we have Pam Greer

playing a transgender woman.

: 1646

00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,439

Pool Scene Podcast: Ahead of its time!

: 1647

00:55:16,699 --> 00:55:17,829

Katie: ahead of its time.

: 1648

00:55:17,999 --> 00:55:19,649

Hershey is her name.

: 1649

00:55:19,819 --> 00:55:20,079

A.

: 1650

00:55:20,089 --> 00:55:20,439

K.

: 1651

00:55:20,439 --> 00:55:20,449

A.

: 1652

00:55:21,689 --> 00:55:23,059

so, you know, how in

: 1653

00:55:23,069 --> 00:55:23,219

the

: 1654

00:55:23,219 --> 00:55:23,509

1st

: 1655

00:55:23,539 --> 00:55:25,159

movie snake

: 1656

00:55:25,219 --> 00:55:26,799

meets what was the guy?

: 1657

00:55:26,849 --> 00:55:28,469

Oh, I'm forgetting his name who

: 1658

00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:29,249

you can tell that.

: 1659

00:55:29,989 --> 00:55:30,459

Yes.

: 1660

00:55:31,149 --> 00:55:31,609

Brain

: 1661

00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:32,849

Pool Scene Podcast: was Brain and Maggie.

: 1662

00:55:32,929 --> 00:55:33,679

Katie: yes, who

: 1663

00:55:33,679 --> 00:55:35,089

he had and The name of the

: 1664

00:55:35,149 --> 00:55:36,539

actor I can picture him, but it's

: 1665

00:55:36,929 --> 00:55:37,559

Pool Scene Podcast: Harry Dean

: 1666

00:55:37,919 --> 00:55:39,239

Katie: Yes, thank you.

: 1667

00:55:39,699 --> 00:55:40,169

So that

: 1668

00:55:40,169 --> 00:55:41,309

was the character that they

: 1669

00:55:41,309 --> 00:55:43,109

knew in a past life and.

: 1670

00:55:43,854 --> 00:55:45,304

Harry Dean Stanton screwed him over.

: 1671

00:55:45,304 --> 00:55:46,904

Well, that's who Pam Greer

: 1672

00:55:46,904 --> 00:55:47,354

plays

: 1673

00:55:47,789 --> 00:55:48,029

Pool Scene Podcast: Yep.

: 1674

00:55:48,089 --> 00:55:48,749

The counterpart in.

: 1675

00:55:48,749 --> 00:55:49,259

this movie.

: 1676

00:55:49,289 --> 00:55:49,589

Yep.

: 1677

00:55:49,869 --> 00:55:51,489

Jack Carjack Malone.

: 1678

00:55:51,729 --> 00:55:52,809

Jack slash

: 1679

00:55:53,154 --> 00:55:53,924

Katie: Malone

: 1680

00:55:54,484 --> 00:55:55,719

Pool Scene Podcast: Carjack Malone.

: 1681

00:55:55,904 --> 00:55:56,584

Katie: Malone

: 1682

00:55:57,064 --> 00:55:58,094

but Hershey.

: 1683

00:55:58,154 --> 00:55:58,624

Yeah.

: 1684

00:55:58,674 --> 00:55:59,104

Yeah.

: 1685

00:55:59,144 --> 00:55:59,614

Oh, yeah.

: 1686

00:55:59,614 --> 00:56:00,474

That that.

: 1687

00:56:00,844 --> 00:56:03,454

plus map map to the stars, Eddie.

: 1688

00:56:03,964 --> 00:56:07,829

and then so Hershey has

her own little gang.

: 1689

00:56:07,879 --> 00:56:08,069

It's,

: 1690

00:56:08,069 --> 00:56:09,059

like little

: 1691

00:56:09,689 --> 00:56:10,419

Tokyo.

: 1692

00:56:11,439 --> 00:56:15,009

But no, that wouldn't make sense because

the, her main guy is called Saigon Shadow.

: 1693

00:56:15,674 --> 00:56:16,064

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

: 1694

00:56:16,484 --> 00:56:17,474

The guy from everything

: 1695

00:56:18,104 --> 00:56:18,949

that guy was in.

: 1696

00:56:19,644 --> 00:56:20,694

All two of them.

: 1697

00:56:21,174 --> 00:56:24,994

Were in big trouble, little

China because they were a part.

: 1698

00:56:25,024 --> 00:56:25,854

One was a part of

: 1699

00:56:25,904 --> 00:56:29,274

the Chang sings and the other one

was a part of the Wing Kong low

: 1700

00:56:29,274 --> 00:56:33,324

pans army, but most of those guys

you will see in every, in every,

: 1701

00:56:33,324 --> 00:56:35,664

especially John Carpenter movies.

: 1702

00:56:35,674 --> 00:56:38,004

That guy, I think the one

was in dango and cash too.

: 1703

00:56:38,004 --> 00:56:38,704

So it's yeah,

: 1704

00:56:38,904 --> 00:56:39,314

Katie: yeah.

: 1705

00:56:39,884 --> 00:56:44,514

The actor's name is Jeff Imada he's

actually like most known cause

: 1706

00:56:44,514 --> 00:56:45,814

he's actually a martial artist.

: 1707

00:56:45,824 --> 00:56:45,944

so.

: 1708

00:56:45,944 --> 00:56:47,844

he's known mostly for, he's like,

: 1709

00:56:47,844 --> 00:56:50,054

a stunt coordinator and a tech advisor.

: 1710

00:56:50,694 --> 00:56:56,674

Um, and yeah, he was a technical advisor

for Tango and Cash or one of them anyway.

: 1711

00:56:56,804 --> 00:56:57,204

Mhm.

: 1712

00:56:58,274 --> 00:57:02,474

Cliff Robertson plays the, president and.

: 1713

00:57:03,499 --> 00:57:05,559

He's really like his face is

: 1714

00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:06,869

familiar and he

: 1715

00:57:06,879 --> 00:57:07,559

actually won an

: 1716

00:57:07,569 --> 00:57:09,909

Oscar and for is it

: 1717

00:57:09,909 --> 00:57:11,999

Charlie from: 1968

: 1718

00:57:12,189 --> 00:57:13,579

C

: 1719

00:57:15,654 --> 00:57:15,914

Pool Scene Podcast: I,

: 1720

00:57:16,049 --> 00:57:17,069

Katie: R L Y

: 1721

00:57:17,724 --> 00:57:18,714

Pool Scene Podcast: he's been in.

: 1722

00:57:19,064 --> 00:57:23,194

He's been in like a lot of those roles

where he's like a secondary character.

: 1723

00:57:23,404 --> 00:57:26,584

I can remember him from certain things,

but I appreciate the fact this time

: 1724

00:57:26,954 --> 00:57:28,984

we just have him known as the president.

: 1725

00:57:28,994 --> 00:57:29,824

Unlike Donald Pleasant.

: 1726

00:57:29,914 --> 00:57:33,304

So the first one where he, his name

was John Harker, but you never knew

: 1727

00:57:33,304 --> 00:57:34,564

it because they never said his name.

: 1728

00:57:34,864 --> 00:57:36,224

This guy was just president.

: 1729

00:57:36,544 --> 00:57:37,064

That's it.

: 1730

00:57:37,699 --> 00:57:38,279

Katie: President.

: 1731

00:57:38,339 --> 00:57:38,589

and

: 1732

00:57:38,599 --> 00:57:39,549

actually to your

: 1733

00:57:39,549 --> 00:57:44,509

point about Donald Pleasence,

he died during filming.

: 1734

00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:47,124

He was originally slated to star in this,

: 1735

00:57:47,164 --> 00:57:48,864

but he died in: 1995

: 1736

00:57:48,874 --> 00:57:49,784

during filming.

: 1737

00:57:50,194 --> 00:57:53,424

So that's when they brought in Cliff

Robertson to take over the role.

: 1738

00:57:54,049 --> 00:57:54,799

Pool Scene Podcast: makes sense then.

: 1739

00:57:55,684 --> 00:57:56,574

Katie: and Kurt

: 1740

00:57:56,684 --> 00:57:57,404

said that he

: 1741

00:57:57,414 --> 00:57:58,734

based him on, cause he's like a

: 1742

00:57:58,734 --> 00:57:59,824

theocrat, based him

: 1743

00:57:59,824 --> 00:58:02,224

on Who's that televangelist

that died not that

: 1744

00:58:02,224 --> 00:58:02,794

long ago?

: 1745

00:58:02,869 --> 00:58:03,809

Pool Scene Podcast: Billy Graham.

: 1746

00:58:04,184 --> 00:58:05,194

Katie: No, Pat

: 1747

00:58:05,194 --> 00:58:06,414

Robertson, I want to say.

: 1748

00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:07,209

Pool Scene Podcast: Robertson.

: 1749

00:58:07,249 --> 00:58:07,489

Yeah.

: 1750

00:58:07,489 --> 00:58:07,659

You're

: 1751

00:58:07,894 --> 00:58:09,764

Katie: who his character

is kind of based on.

: 1752

00:58:11,059 --> 00:58:11,709

Pool Scene Podcast: It's perfect.

: 1753

00:58:11,874 --> 00:58:12,254

Katie: Yeah.

: 1754

00:58:12,484 --> 00:58:15,174

There are some things in this movie,

watching it now, that I'm like, oh, that's

: 1755

00:58:15,174 --> 00:58:17,204

very prescient for what's going on now.

: 1756

00:58:17,904 --> 00:58:20,334

Um, trying to make America a theocracy

: 1757

00:58:20,334 --> 00:58:20,924

and such.

: 1758

00:58:21,484 --> 00:58:26,604

Um, we get Peter Fonda

as like a surfer dude.

: 1759

00:58:26,604 --> 00:58:29,284

No,

: 1760

00:58:29,299 --> 00:58:31,519

Pool Scene Podcast: is, is I

looked at the cast on Wikipedia

: 1761

00:58:31,569 --> 00:58:33,759

and it says Breckenmeyer as surfer.

: 1762

00:58:34,189 --> 00:58:37,169

So I was watching out for

Breckenmeyer cause I had the

: 1763

00:58:37,169 --> 00:58:38,199

notes open while I'm looking

: 1764

00:58:38,479 --> 00:58:38,599

and

: 1765

00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:41,539

I'm like, that's definitely

not Breckenmeyer, that's Peter.

: 1766

00:58:42,199 --> 00:58:42,289

He

: 1767

00:58:42,289 --> 00:58:44,669

had to have been in the

back or another surfer.

: 1768

00:58:44,669 --> 00:58:45,129

Yeah.

: 1769

00:58:45,484 --> 00:58:45,854

Katie: the member

: 1770

00:58:45,854 --> 00:58:51,454

that 1 really quick scene when snake

1st arrives in his submarine that also

: 1771

00:58:51,609 --> 00:58:51,889

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

: 1772

00:58:52,254 --> 00:58:55,374

Yeah.

: 1773

00:58:55,464 --> 00:58:57,584

Katie: to find another

way back to civilization.

: 1774

00:58:58,144 --> 00:58:59,004

There's a quick

: 1775

00:58:59,034 --> 00:59:00,884

scene where there's a bunch of surfers.

: 1776

00:59:00,884 --> 00:59:02,619

Yeah.

: 1777

00:59:02,619 --> 00:59:04,354

Also.

: 1778

00:59:04,434 --> 00:59:06,434

Pool Scene Podcast: That's the

counterpart to the first movie

: 1779

00:59:06,434 --> 00:59:07,844

when he uses the hand glider.

: 1780

00:59:07,854 --> 00:59:08,364

That's right.

: 1781

00:59:08,374 --> 00:59:08,594

Kind of same

: 1782

00:59:08,884 --> 00:59:09,544

technology.

: 1783

00:59:09,554 --> 00:59:10,314

Hand glider last time.

: 1784

00:59:11,034 --> 00:59:11,334

Yep.

: 1785

00:59:11,464 --> 00:59:11,754

Katie: Yep.

: 1786

00:59:11,754 --> 00:59:12,274

There's a

: 1787

00:59:13,064 --> 00:59:14,334

Pool Scene Podcast: also falls off.

: 1788

00:59:14,799 --> 00:59:15,019

All right.

: 1789

00:59:15,019 --> 00:59:19,229

Shout out to the: 1996

computer generated graphics.

: 1790

00:59:19,229 --> 00:59:20,519

Let's not shout those out.

: 1791

00:59:20,579 --> 00:59:21,219

Wow.

: 1792

00:59:21,424 --> 00:59:22,524

Katie: I found it.

: 1793

00:59:22,574 --> 00:59:26,764

I almost thought they did it

on purpose because I was yeah,

: 1794

00:59:26,774 --> 00:59:27,254

It, it

: 1795

00:59:27,264 --> 00:59:31,844

was bad, but on purpose bad

or was it supposed to be good?

: 1796

00:59:32,649 --> 00:59:33,949

Pool Scene Podcast: they

they saved some money.

: 1797

00:59:33,989 --> 00:59:34,369

Yeah.

: 1798

00:59:34,429 --> 00:59:34,859

They saved some money.

: 1799

00:59:34,859 --> 00:59:37,979

This is an era of film that we're

always going to be able to look back at.

: 1800

00:59:37,999 --> 00:59:41,979

Like now we get like 4k

remaster of wizard of Oz.

: 1801

00:59:41,979 --> 00:59:45,883

But if you like, I don't think we're

going to get a 4k remaster of it.

: 1802

00:59:45,883 --> 00:59:46,474

It's different about that.

: 1803

00:59:46,764 --> 00:59:50,544

Look at the CG in this, look at

Russell Crowe and virtuosity.

: 1804

00:59:50,564 --> 00:59:51,814

It's just that level.

: 1805

00:59:51,814 --> 00:59:52,634

Oh, like Lawnmower Man.

: 1806

00:59:52,634 --> 00:59:53,714

Lawnmower Man.

: 1807

00:59:54,104 --> 00:59:54,904

Oh yeah.

: 1808

00:59:54,984 --> 00:59:57,084

Just the quality of, of this.

: 1809

00:59:57,334 --> 00:59:59,644

But at the time we're like,

Oh my God, this looks great.

: 1810

00:59:59,724 --> 01:00:01,084

I always love when you can,

: 1811

01:00:01,434 --> 01:00:04,084

Easily point out someone's in

front of a green screen because

: 1812

01:00:04,084 --> 01:00:05,067

of the trimming and stuff.

: 1813

01:00:05,067 --> 01:00:06,354

Yeah, you get the

trimming and the outline.

: 1814

01:00:06,404 --> 01:00:06,624

Oh, it's

: 1815

01:00:06,774 --> 01:00:07,524

Katie: Well, he serves.

: 1816

01:00:08,049 --> 01:00:10,359

Doesn't know how to surf, but he, Peter,

: 1817

01:00:10,539 --> 01:00:13,009

Peter, uh, Peter Fonda is like,

well, you're going to, this is

: 1818

01:00:13,009 --> 01:00:13,859

how you're going to get out.

: 1819

01:00:13,949 --> 01:00:14,909

And you just

: 1820

01:00:14,909 --> 01:00:15,659

do this, do this.

: 1821

01:00:15,659 --> 01:00:16,509

And he's like, got it.

: 1822

01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:17,169

No problem.

: 1823

01:00:17,319 --> 01:00:17,969

And he does.

: 1824

01:00:18,259 --> 01:00:21,079

And he surfs his way up

to where the highway is

: 1825

01:00:21,489 --> 01:00:21,689

to

: 1826

01:00:21,834 --> 01:00:23,754

Pool Scene Podcast: Eddie

Mavistar does not even

: 1827

01:00:24,034 --> 01:00:26,214

seem to notice this

giant wave next to him.

: 1828

01:00:26,264 --> 01:00:27,714

No, he sees him and he's oh,

: 1829

01:00:28,174 --> 01:00:29,894

he's Eventually he sees

him and then, yeah,

: 1830

01:00:30,649 --> 01:00:30,999

Katie: He

: 1831

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ends up

: 1832

01:00:32,479 --> 01:00:36,679

somehow jumping from the wave

into the convertible car.

: 1833

01:00:36,839 --> 01:00:37,169

That

: 1834

01:00:37,279 --> 01:00:38,289

Eddie is driving.

: 1835

01:00:38,359 --> 01:00:38,809

Mm hmm.

: 1836

01:00:39,639 --> 01:00:40,449

So that's Peter Fonda.

: 1837

01:00:40,449 --> 01:00:43,059

Now, speaking of surfers, another one,

: 1838

01:00:43,759 --> 01:00:44,899

have you guys heard of Bo

: 1839

01:00:44,899 --> 01:00:46,629

Jesse Christopher, which is

: 1840

01:00:46,979 --> 01:00:50,009

an awesome name that I brought up in my

point break episode because he was in

: 1841

01:00:50,184 --> 01:00:50,794

Pool Scene Podcast: great name.

: 1842

01:00:52,194 --> 01:00:53,314

No, that's a great name though.

: 1843

01:00:53,314 --> 01:00:54,464

No, I don't remember.

: 1844

01:00:54,999 --> 01:00:57,229

Katie: he was also one of the surfers

: 1845

01:00:57,279 --> 01:00:57,509

because

: 1846

01:00:57,509 --> 01:00:59,149

he in real life is a surfer.

: 1847

01:00:59,199 --> 01:01:00,599

Thus being in point break.

: 1848

01:01:00,649 --> 01:01:00,689

Awesome.

: 1849

01:01:01,394 --> 01:01:03,254

Pool Scene Podcast: They needed

Kelly Slater in this movie.

: 1850

01:01:03,294 --> 01:01:03,984

That's what they really needed.

: 1851

01:01:03,984 --> 01:01:05,774

They should have had the

Point Break Surf Team.

: 1852

01:01:05,784 --> 01:01:06,644

Yeah, why not?

: 1853

01:01:06,644 --> 01:01:08,694

With Adam Habody and Rorke Child.

: 1854

01:01:09,174 --> 01:01:09,724

Yeah.

: 1855

01:01:09,744 --> 01:01:09,964

Anthony Kiedis.

: 1856

01:01:10,654 --> 01:01:13,024

Katie: So then another person that

: 1857

01:01:13,024 --> 01:01:13,924

he meets along the

: 1858

01:01:13,924 --> 01:01:14,404

way,

: 1859

01:01:14,994 --> 01:01:17,634

her name and the reason

that she's there is

: 1860

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because she's Muslim.

: 1861

01:01:18,834 --> 01:01:20,344

That's that's her moral

: 1862

01:01:20,644 --> 01:01:21,854

Pool Scene Podcast: favorite

character in the movie.

: 1863

01:01:21,964 --> 01:01:22,764

Katie: Taslima.

: 1864

01:01:23,394 --> 01:01:23,764

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

: 1865

01:01:23,864 --> 01:01:29,644

Oh, Valerie Galino only in

the movie for a few minutes.

: 1866

01:01:30,124 --> 01:01:30,854

It's very brief,

: 1867

01:01:31,024 --> 01:01:31,714

Katie: right away.

: 1868

01:01:32,304 --> 01:01:35,534

Pool Scene Podcast: but we get

like the most poignant commentary

: 1869

01:01:35,564 --> 01:01:37,794

from her, from her, where she says

: 1870

01:01:38,464 --> 01:01:40,574

basically like LA is not.

: 1871

01:01:41,139 --> 01:01:41,909

The prison,

: 1872

01:01:42,189 --> 01:01:44,319

the rest of the United

States is the prison.

: 1873

01:01:44,359 --> 01:01:45,669

You know, what's amazing about her.

: 1874

01:01:45,669 --> 01:01:48,769

She had her moment in

time, like 94, 95, 96.

: 1875

01:01:48,769 --> 01:01:51,259

She was on like hot shots,

art, hot shots, part do.

: 1876

01:01:51,699 --> 01:01:52,099

She was,

: 1877

01:01:52,729 --> 01:01:54,109

she seemed to be.

: 1878

01:01:54,799 --> 01:01:56,289

On the way to being that

: 1879

01:01:56,449 --> 01:01:58,049

Kelly LeBrock of the: 1990

: 1880

01:01:58,079 --> 01:02:00,789

I mean, I can kind of

compare her to Salma Hayek.

: 1881

01:02:00,789 --> 01:02:02,119

Yes, I can see that.

: 1882

01:02:02,899 --> 01:02:04,249

You know, and a few others.

: 1883

01:02:04,459 --> 01:02:07,799

But it's like she was there and then

she, then she, poof, she's gone.

: 1884

01:02:07,949 --> 01:02:09,749

Katie: She was in Rain Man also.

: 1885

01:02:10,669 --> 01:02:12,019

But yeah, Valerie

: 1886

01:02:12,059 --> 01:02:12,669

Golina.

: 1887

01:02:12,699 --> 01:02:13,499

I Didn't really

: 1888

01:02:13,499 --> 01:02:17,939

recognize her, but yeah, she gets

shot right after she says the poignant

: 1889

01:02:17,959 --> 01:02:18,819

Pool Scene Podcast: It's insane.

: 1890

01:02:19,259 --> 01:02:19,909

It's insane.

: 1891

01:02:19,939 --> 01:02:20,319

Yeah.

: 1892

01:02:20,339 --> 01:02:21,609

He meets her in the bushes.

: 1893

01:02:21,619 --> 01:02:23,339

She gets killed by the Honda gang.

: 1894

01:02:23,339 --> 01:02:23,769

Yeah.

: 1895

01:02:23,799 --> 01:02:24,569

What a way to go.

: 1896

01:02:25,419 --> 01:02:25,959

Come on.

: 1897

01:02:27,169 --> 01:02:31,119

Katie: Did you guys notice that Jamie

Lee Curtis also narrated this one?

: 1898

01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:31,909

So she narrated

: 1899

01:02:31,989 --> 01:02:33,869

Pool Scene Podcast: was wondering

if that was her gang too.

: 1900

01:02:33,879 --> 01:02:34,349

I didn't think about it.

: 1901

01:02:34,349 --> 01:02:34,909

That makes sense.

: 1902

01:02:35,159 --> 01:02:39,119

Katie: Jamie Lee Curtis, we get back

and there was one other bit role that

: 1903

01:02:39,129 --> 01:02:39,984

I I

: 1904

01:02:40,529 --> 01:02:41,288

Pool Scene Podcast: I think

I know where you're going.

: 1905

01:02:41,614 --> 01:02:43,974

Katie: because I was like,

Oh my God, is that him?

: 1906

01:02:44,384 --> 01:02:46,084

Do you guys know who the skinhead is?

: 1907

01:02:46,759 --> 01:02:48,749

Pool Scene Podcast: Louis

Skolnick, Robert Carradine,

: 1908

01:02:48,874 --> 01:02:49,034

Katie: Yes.

: 1909

01:02:49,099 --> 01:02:50,029

Pool Scene Podcast: Revenge of the Nerds.

: 1910

01:02:50,788 --> 01:02:52,329

I knew it as soon as I saw him.

: 1911

01:02:52,369 --> 01:02:55,299

I don't remember it from, I saw

this movie a bunch growing up on

: 1912

01:02:55,299 --> 01:02:58,319

cable, but I don't ever remember

recognizing Robert Carradine,

: 1913

01:02:58,599 --> 01:03:00,079

but as soon as I saw him in this,

: 1914

01:03:00,734 --> 01:03:02,214

I'm like, Hey, that's Robert Carradine.

: 1915

01:03:02,224 --> 01:03:05,663

Very disconcerting knowing that

Lewis Skolnick is a skinhead.

: 1916

01:03:05,874 --> 01:03:06,794

It's kind of sad

: 1917

01:03:07,274 --> 01:03:07,524

Katie: yeah.

: 1918

01:03:07,594 --> 01:03:10,654

Pool Scene Podcast: him just do a

bit of art for five seconds, too.

: 1919

01:03:11,234 --> 01:03:13,194

You have to remember, too, at this time,

: 1920

01:03:13,824 --> 01:03:19,274

he was still Because I can remember

seeing Revenge of the Nerds 4 was released

: 1921

01:03:19,564 --> 01:03:21,034

on Fox, Nerds and Love.

: 1922

01:03:21,174 --> 01:03:21,484

Yes!

: 1923

01:03:21,824 --> 01:03:24,074

God, it was It

: 1924

01:03:24,454 --> 01:03:27,913

was right around this

time, like 95, 94, 95.

: 1925

01:03:28,194 --> 01:03:29,324

It came on Fox.

: 1926

01:03:29,324 --> 01:03:30,594

I was like at eight o'clock night.

: 1927

01:03:30,594 --> 01:03:32,174

I was like, Oh my God, new revenge.

: 1928

01:03:32,264 --> 01:03:33,304

The third one was bad.

: 1929

01:03:33,304 --> 01:03:34,514

It was a new generation

: 1930

01:03:34,824 --> 01:03:36,594

on par with the saved by the bell movies.

: 1931

01:03:36,829 --> 01:03:38,339

Katie: Oh, the first

: 1932

01:03:38,349 --> 01:03:39,839

two are really good though.

: 1933

01:03:40,424 --> 01:03:40,644

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

: 1934

01:03:40,644 --> 01:03:41,154

Oh, yes.

: 1935

01:03:41,163 --> 01:03:41,534

Yeah.

: 1936

01:03:41,534 --> 01:03:42,304

Slam dunks.

: 1937

01:03:42,324 --> 01:03:42,834

Amazing.

: 1938

01:03:42,864 --> 01:03:43,544

Slam dunks.

: 1939

01:03:43,909 --> 01:03:45,099

Katie: You don't really recognize him.

: 1940

01:03:45,099 --> 01:03:45,989

He doesn't have the glasses.

: 1941

01:03:45,989 --> 01:03:47,229

He's got his head shaved.

: 1942

01:03:47,229 --> 01:03:48,369

And, but I was like, Oh my God,

: 1943

01:03:48,409 --> 01:03:49,219

that's the guy.

: 1944

01:03:49,569 --> 01:03:52,469

And I looked it up and maybe I'm

the last person on earth to know

: 1945

01:03:52,469 --> 01:03:54,529

this, but I didn't know that,

: 1946

01:03:54,579 --> 01:03:55,169

He's Keith

: 1947

01:03:55,189 --> 01:04:00,499

Carradine's brother and that David

Carradine is their half brother.

: 1948

01:04:00,969 --> 01:04:01,979

I didn't know that

: 1949

01:04:02,754 --> 01:04:03,764

Pool Scene Podcast: so crazy.

: 1950

01:04:03,904 --> 01:04:04,834

Of all people,

: 1951

01:04:05,294 --> 01:04:06,094

Louis Skolnick.

: 1952

01:04:06,163 --> 01:04:08,191

He'll always be Louis Skolnick to me.

: 1953

01:04:08,191 --> 01:04:09,254

No matter what.

: 1954

01:04:09,254 --> 01:04:11,733

I'm never calling him his real name.

: 1955

01:04:11,733 --> 01:04:12,442

It's not.

: 1956

01:04:12,442 --> 01:04:12,796

He's

: 1957

01:04:12,904 --> 01:04:14,134

Katie: He is always Lewis.

: 1958

01:04:14,254 --> 01:04:14,744

All right, you

: 1959

01:04:14,921 --> 01:04:15,984

Pool Scene Podcast: our way back

: 1960

01:04:19,444 --> 01:04:20,024

to goose.

: 1961

01:04:20,094 --> 01:04:20,674

Always.

: 1962

01:04:21,264 --> 01:04:21,904

Katie: Did you think that

: 1963

01:04:21,904 --> 01:04:23,224

Kurt's voice was different

: 1964

01:04:23,224 --> 01:04:24,994

in this or did I make that up?

: 1965

01:04:24,994 --> 01:04:26,004

Like more

: 1966

01:04:26,474 --> 01:04:27,284

Pool Scene Podcast: It was less,

: 1967

01:04:27,464 --> 01:04:28,284

Katie: raspy.

: 1968

01:04:28,844 --> 01:04:31,074

Pool Scene Podcast: it was less,

you know, I feel like maybe

: 1969

01:04:31,074 --> 01:04:32,344

talked a little bit louder.

: 1970

01:04:33,554 --> 01:04:35,514

That he did in the first call me snake.

: 1971

01:04:35,524 --> 01:04:37,163

He didn't really do any of that.

: 1972

01:04:37,163 --> 01:04:37,964

I like stay at home.

: 1973

01:04:38,104 --> 01:04:38,594

Yeah.

: 1974

01:04:38,924 --> 01:04:39,804

Call me snake.

: 1975

01:04:39,874 --> 01:04:40,124

That

: 1976

01:04:40,444 --> 01:04:41,744

if there was a Statham

: 1977

01:04:42,814 --> 01:04:43,784

snake Plissken,

: 1978

01:04:44,344 --> 01:04:44,944

I'd be fine.

: 1979

01:04:44,994 --> 01:04:45,964

I would be fine with that.

: 1980

01:04:46,004 --> 01:04:47,024

But we also said

: 1981

01:04:47,354 --> 01:04:49,854

we would never want escape

from New York remade

: 1982

01:04:50,244 --> 01:04:52,004

unless it's Kurt Russell's son.

: 1983

01:04:52,044 --> 01:04:52,413

Why?

: 1984

01:04:52,544 --> 01:04:52,874

Yeah.

: 1985

01:04:52,874 --> 01:04:53,794

Unless it's Wyatt.

: 1986

01:04:54,034 --> 01:04:55,374

We don't want to ever see a remake.

: 1987

01:04:56,491 --> 01:04:59,521

Katie: Speaking of which,

what happened to New York?

: 1988

01:05:01,401 --> 01:05:02,931

Pool Scene Podcast: They

don't really, he escaped.

: 1989

01:05:03,191 --> 01:05:06,081

Katie: No, I mean, like

now LA is the prison.

: 1990

01:05:06,371 --> 01:05:08,621

You know what I mean,

what happened to New York?

: 1991

01:05:09,811 --> 01:05:12,031

Pool Scene Podcast: we theorized

on this a little bit because

: 1992

01:05:13,541 --> 01:05:13,771

I

: 1993

01:05:13,771 --> 01:05:17,921

think there's a lot of these

prisons, but LA seems to be

: 1994

01:05:17,921 --> 01:05:20,281

like the, the West coast hub.

: 1995

01:05:20,321 --> 01:05:20,771

Yeah.

: 1996

01:05:20,801 --> 01:05:23,521

Because we hear so much about

Cleveland in this movie.

: 1997

01:05:23,831 --> 01:05:26,711

Like every other, every other scene

is like, how did you get out of

: 1998

01:05:26,711 --> 01:05:28,346

Cleveland and Cleveland and Cleveland?

: 1999

01:05:28,716 --> 01:05:33,496

So there seems to be a regional

prisons all over the country,

: 2000

01:05:34,531 --> 01:05:35,141

Katie: Okay.

: 2001

01:05:35,386 --> 01:05:36,756

Pool Scene Podcast: is the main one.

: 2002

01:05:36,916 --> 01:05:40,606

God, I wish this didn't bomb and it,

they didn't do escape from earth.

: 2003

01:05:41,066 --> 01:05:43,436

Have them return, call

it return to Cleveland.

: 2004

01:05:43,736 --> 01:05:45,976

Like I need to know what

happened in Cleveland.

: 2005

01:05:47,211 --> 01:05:47,751

Katie: I agree.

: 2006

01:05:47,771 --> 01:05:47,991

Yeah.

: 2007

01:05:47,991 --> 01:05:49,601

I was like, am I missing something?

: 2008

01:05:49,601 --> 01:05:51,341

What's with the Cleveland references?

: 2009

01:05:52,631 --> 01:05:53,221

And they don't

: 2010

01:05:53,221 --> 01:05:54,711

even really, I'm

: 2011

01:05:54,711 --> 01:05:57,031

calling it a prison incorrectly.

: 2012

01:05:57,621 --> 01:05:59,991

It's, it's that you are deported

: 2013

01:06:00,721 --> 01:06:01,011

to LA.

: 2014

01:06:02,116 --> 01:06:02,366

So I

: 2015

01:06:02,366 --> 01:06:03,686

don't know if somehow

: 2016

01:06:03,686 --> 01:06:05,126

Pool Scene Podcast: morally depraved.

: 2017

01:06:06,056 --> 01:06:06,886

Katie: By smoking

: 2018

01:06:07,596 --> 01:06:08,026

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

: 2019

01:06:08,306 --> 01:06:09,006

Oh my God.

: 2020

01:06:09,681 --> 01:06:14,821

We caught Shannon in a corner there

ripping a dart or Marlboro the Porter ass

: 2021

01:06:15,501 --> 01:06:15,881

Yeah,

: 2022

01:06:16,761 --> 01:06:18,911

I like that Disneyland still there.

: 2023

01:06:18,931 --> 01:06:23,241

Although Cuervo calls it Happy Kingdom.

: 2024

01:06:23,981 --> 01:06:25,101

You can't get those copyright.

: 2025

01:06:25,271 --> 01:06:25,311

You

: 2026

01:06:25,456 --> 01:06:26,066

Katie: they couldn't.

: 2027

01:06:26,066 --> 01:06:26,646

Yeah, you're right.

: 2028

01:06:26,646 --> 01:06:28,606

That's why happy the happy kingdom.

: 2029

01:06:30,056 --> 01:06:31,866

So Do you have different thoughts?

: 2030

01:06:31,866 --> 01:06:33,296

Cause this was my first viewing.

: 2031

01:06:33,706 --> 01:06:35,626

So you guys, I assume watched it pretty

: 2032

01:06:35,626 --> 01:06:36,196

recently.

: 2033

01:06:36,206 --> 01:06:37,246

Do you feel,

: 2034

01:06:37,396 --> 01:06:41,936

how do you feel about it now

versus historic remembrings of it?

: 2035

01:06:42,506 --> 01:06:45,016

Pool Scene Podcast: I will always

say, I appreciate the fact, Katie,

: 2036

01:06:45,016 --> 01:06:47,526

that you saw both these movies fresh.

: 2037

01:06:47,716 --> 01:06:47,996

Yeah.

: 2038

01:06:48,016 --> 01:06:48,986

So it's a great fresh

: 2039

01:06:49,526 --> 01:06:50,916

perspective, which is great.

: 2040

01:06:51,006 --> 01:06:53,726

I saw this a number of times

growing up and always kind of

: 2041

01:06:53,726 --> 01:06:57,326

enjoyed it, but the scene that

stood out was always basketball.

: 2042

01:06:57,636 --> 01:06:58,586

Basketball and surfing.

: 2043

01:06:58,776 --> 01:06:59,426

And surfing.

: 2044

01:06:59,426 --> 01:07:00,466

It's the X Games.

: 2045

01:07:00,686 --> 01:07:05,076

And, but I will say, it's I always

remember, okay, this movie was not

: 2046

01:07:05,076 --> 01:07:08,586

great, but I always liked watching

it for its campiness, and now I will

: 2047

01:07:08,586 --> 01:07:11,286

say, it's not as bad as I remember.

: 2048

01:07:12,046 --> 01:07:12,766

I agree.

: 2049

01:07:12,896 --> 01:07:13,716

It was,

: 2050

01:07:14,036 --> 01:07:17,216

cause this is the first time I've

seen it in probably 15 years.

: 2051

01:07:17,731 --> 01:07:20,811

And we even joked back and forth

listen, the second one is not

: 2052

01:07:21,076 --> 01:07:21,256

Katie: Yeah.

: 2053

01:07:21,256 --> 01:07:22,376

You guys warned me.

: 2054

01:07:23,091 --> 01:07:24,311

Pool Scene Podcast: Oh, but you know what?

: 2055

01:07:24,441 --> 01:07:25,921

I watched it again,

: 2056

01:07:26,341 --> 01:07:29,741

This past weekend with my girlfriend,

because she loves Kurt Russell too,

: 2057

01:07:30,081 --> 01:07:31,091

and she's never seen it.

: 2058

01:07:31,631 --> 01:07:34,571

So the whole time I'm

like, yep, this is the,

: 2059

01:07:35,571 --> 01:07:36,401

the,

: 2060

01:07:37,391 --> 01:07:39,461

the pinnacle of mid 90s.

: 2061

01:07:39,976 --> 01:07:41,576

Let's throw an extreme sports.

: 2062

01:07:41,576 --> 01:07:42,036

Let's

: 2063

01:07:42,606 --> 01:07:45,666

how can we show like our, our CG?

: 2064

01:07:45,686 --> 01:07:47,696

Let's show off some computer graphics.

: 2065

01:07:47,706 --> 01:07:49,306

Let's see how far we've come with that.

: 2066

01:07:49,986 --> 01:07:53,976

But this movie surprisingly

held up a lot better than what

: 2067

01:07:53,976 --> 01:07:55,626

I initially gave it credit for.

: 2068

01:07:55,636 --> 01:08:00,396

I, so some of my concerns with

this one is I don't want to think

: 2069

01:08:01,066 --> 01:08:05,686

that John Carpenter did it as like a

cash grab, which by Because if he did,

: 2070

01:08:05,686 --> 01:08:13,926

it obviously didn't work, but too, it is

a little weird to do the almost beat for

: 2071

01:08:13,936 --> 01:08:19,166

beat, have the same, have counterparts

for everything in this movie versus

: 2072

01:08:19,166 --> 01:08:27,196

what was in New York, because it's not

really a brand new story, but carpenter.

: 2073

01:08:27,506 --> 01:08:32,006

Has even said he loves this way more

than he loved escape from New York.

: 2074

01:08:32,006 --> 01:08:34,185

And it kind of blows my mind.

: 2075

01:08:34,206 --> 01:08:34,416

Like

: 2076

01:08:34,475 --> 01:08:35,546

Katie: I do too.

: 2077

01:08:36,236 --> 01:08:40,006

Pool Scene Podcast: I know it's,

I escaped from New York was such,

: 2078

01:08:40,366 --> 01:08:44,185

I just, it's like a lot of people

will say, and don't get me wrong,

: 2079

01:08:44,225 --> 01:08:46,926

Terminator two is probably one of the

greatest action movies of all time,

: 2080

01:08:47,316 --> 01:08:51,246

but something about that original

Terminator, it seemed gritty in real.

: 2081

01:08:52,111 --> 01:08:54,961

The original escape from New York

was gritty and it seemed real.

: 2082

01:08:55,140 --> 01:08:57,291

And then Terminator 2's catchphrases and.

: 2083

01:08:57,301 --> 01:08:58,281

Yeah, it was more camp.

: 2084

01:08:58,281 --> 01:08:58,931

Bad placement.

: 2085

01:08:58,941 --> 01:09:00,511

Like this, like escape from LA is

: 2086

01:09:00,716 --> 01:09:01,736

Katie: tends to happen.

: 2087

01:09:01,736 --> 01:09:04,906

I feel like with sequels

generally like the Rockies,

: 2088

01:09:05,225 --> 01:09:10,926

you know, Rocky three and Rocky four

are vastly different than the original.

: 2089

01:09:10,946 --> 01:09:11,736

I've and

: 2090

01:09:11,746 --> 01:09:12,386

your

: 2091

01:09:13,095 --> 01:09:13,966

point about Terminator,

: 2092

01:09:13,966 --> 01:09:14,786

I feel like yeah, it

: 2093

01:09:14,826 --> 01:09:17,466

kind of has to be or something.

: 2094

01:09:17,466 --> 01:09:18,166

I don't know.

: 2095

01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:22,361

Pool Scene Podcast: And then Terminator,

it's slowly coming true with AI.

: 2096

01:09:22,361 --> 01:09:24,501

So Skynet is inevitable.

: 2097

01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:25,411

Go figure.

: 2098

01:09:26,056 --> 01:09:27,606

Katie: What's the story

with the holograms?

: 2099

01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:29,881

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

: 2100

01:09:29,931 --> 01:09:31,171

They're they're all in on that

: 2101

01:09:31,301 --> 01:09:33,560

at nineties hologram tech.

: 2102

01:09:33,961 --> 01:09:38,791

Well, I, I dig it because this

movie has such a tremendous ending.

: 2103

01:09:38,791 --> 01:09:38,841

Yeah.

: 2104

01:09:39,616 --> 01:09:41,236

I don't know if we want

to get into that yet,

: 2105

01:09:41,406 --> 01:09:42,086

Katie: how about it?

: 2106

01:09:42,156 --> 01:09:47,156

Pool Scene Podcast: as, as snake

gets to LA and he, he knows the deal.

: 2107

01:09:47,406 --> 01:09:50,776

He says, we're doing this again,

just tell me what I got to do.

: 2108

01:09:51,095 --> 01:09:52,676

And he's not cooperative.

: 2109

01:09:53,076 --> 01:09:57,026

So then he actually tries to attack the

president and they're like, what an idiot.

: 2110

01:09:57,066 --> 01:09:58,596

He doesn't know we're holograms.

: 2111

01:09:59,186 --> 01:10:04,046

So then at the end, they've

got a remote, which can

: 2112

01:10:05,416 --> 01:10:06,946

use the satellites.

: 2113

01:10:06,996 --> 01:10:08,836

First off, there's a world code.

: 2114

01:10:08,896 --> 01:10:09,986

There's a world code.

: 2115

01:10:10,696 --> 01:10:11,626

Katie: I love that.

: 2116

01:10:11,816 --> 01:10:12,326

digits.

: 2117

01:10:12,446 --> 01:10:13,046

Only.

: 2118

01:10:13,216 --> 01:10:13,516

Only.

: 2119

01:10:13,516 --> 01:10:13,606

I

: 2120

01:10:13,606 --> 01:10:15,586

love how these codes are only 3 digits.

: 2121

01:10:15,746 --> 01:10:17,676

Pool Scene Podcast: yeah, what

looks like a television remote.

: 2122

01:10:17,696 --> 01:10:20,916

That's got this tiny little disc

in it with a red dot with a red dot

: 2123

01:10:21,846 --> 01:10:24,196

that they put in and you can use.

: 2124

01:10:24,676 --> 01:10:30,586

Satellites orbiting earth to target

any area on earth and use EMPs to

: 2125

01:10:30,586 --> 01:10:33,186

render them back to the stone age.

: 2126

01:10:33,196 --> 01:10:34,746

Exactly, back to the stone age.

: 2127

01:10:34,746 --> 01:10:35,986

So at the end of the movie.

: 2128

01:10:36,751 --> 01:10:43,131

You know, first off you realize snake

is not actually injected with this

: 2129

01:10:43,141 --> 01:10:45,271

virus that he's so afraid of him.

: 2130

01:10:45,271 --> 01:10:45,881

The flu, the

: 2131

01:10:46,151 --> 01:10:47,711

flu, a 24 hour flu

: 2132

01:10:47,976 --> 01:10:49,316

Katie: But that was the deal.

: 2133

01:10:49,376 --> 01:10:49,486

They likened

: 2134

01:10:49,486 --> 01:10:51,165

that.

: 2135

01:10:51,166 --> 01:10:52,856

He thinks he's injected with this

: 2136

01:10:52,866 --> 01:10:53,376

virus.

: 2137

01:10:53,756 --> 01:10:54,176

Just like

: 2138

01:10:54,186 --> 01:10:55,396

last time.

: 2139

01:10:56,381 --> 01:10:57,591

Yes, but what was the deal?

: 2140

01:10:57,591 --> 01:10:59,271

They injected him with

something last time too.

: 2141

01:10:59,271 --> 01:11:00,071

What was the

: 2142

01:11:00,071 --> 01:11:00,901

Pool Scene Podcast: explosives.

: 2143

01:11:00,901 --> 01:11:01,151

Yeah.

: 2144

01:11:01,151 --> 01:11:05,551

They put, they were going to blow up

his carotid yet to blow up his carotid.

: 2145

01:11:05,831 --> 01:11:07,491

So, but that wasn't BS though.

: 2146

01:11:07,511 --> 01:11:08,121

They literally

: 2147

01:11:08,401 --> 01:11:09,461

Katie: They, that's true.

: 2148

01:11:10,041 --> 01:11:10,361

Pool Scene Podcast: yeah.

: 2149

01:11:10,371 --> 01:11:11,211

Inner space.

: 2150

01:11:11,531 --> 01:11:12,151

Yes.

: 2151

01:11:12,721 --> 01:11:13,701

Another great movie.

: 2152

01:11:13,751 --> 01:11:14,331

It is a great movie.

: 2153

01:11:14,341 --> 01:11:14,611

Yeah.

: 2154

01:11:14,611 --> 01:11:15,041

It's a great one.

: 2155

01:11:15,631 --> 01:11:17,101

So at the end of the movie.

: 2156

01:11:18,196 --> 01:11:22,386

You know, he's, he sees

through all their BS about the,

: 2157

01:11:23,236 --> 01:11:29,506

you know, they're just using him, he knows

that, but he appears as a hologram and he

: 2158

01:11:29,506 --> 01:11:34,406

enters the world code and turns the earth

back to stone age, but it's so good, but

: 2159

01:11:34,986 --> 01:11:35,616

I just love.

: 2160

01:11:35,841 --> 01:11:37,101

Katie: they shoot at him and the

: 2161

01:11:37,101 --> 01:11:41,411

reason we find out that he's

a hologram is because He does

: 2162

01:11:41,421 --> 01:11:42,801

that despite the president.

: 2163

01:11:42,811 --> 01:11:45,891

So there again, once again, the

president gets the, thing back

: 2164

01:11:46,231 --> 01:11:47,721

and then he's embarrassed on a

: 2165

01:11:47,721 --> 01:11:49,301

live broadcast

: 2166

01:11:49,311 --> 01:11:49,641

that.

: 2167

01:11:49,861 --> 01:11:52,321

that He got, um, faked

: 2168

01:11:52,421 --> 01:11:53,311

Pool Scene Podcast: You got Eddie's tape

: 2169

01:11:53,771 --> 01:11:54,031

Katie: Yeah.

: 2170

01:11:55,461 --> 01:11:55,911

Yeah.

: 2171

01:11:56,231 --> 01:11:58,021

His tour of the stars tape.

: 2172

01:11:58,051 --> 01:12:01,311

And so on air, the president

says, shoot him, shoot

: 2173

01:12:01,311 --> 01:12:01,661

him.

: 2174

01:12:01,931 --> 01:12:07,121

and they, do, but because he's a

hologram, he's, he doesn't die, obviously.

: 2175

01:12:07,671 --> 01:12:09,921

Pool Scene Podcast: and in

last Jedi, Ryan Johnson steals

: 2176

01:12:09,921 --> 01:12:11,201

this with Luke Skywalker.

: 2177

01:12:11,311 --> 01:12:11,651

Yeah.

: 2178

01:12:11,681 --> 01:12:12,621

They do the same thing.

: 2179

01:12:12,731 --> 01:12:13,031

Yep.

: 2180

01:12:13,081 --> 01:12:14,691

Luke appears as a hologram.

: 2181

01:12:15,401 --> 01:12:17,921

They attack him full out.

: 2182

01:12:18,311 --> 01:12:21,161

And when the smoke clears,

he's still standing there.

: 2183

01:12:21,161 --> 01:12:22,171

They try again.

: 2184

01:12:22,541 --> 01:12:23,551

It's exactly the same.

: 2185

01:12:23,611 --> 01:12:23,871

Yep.

: 2186

01:12:23,871 --> 01:12:25,351

Katie, you got to jump into the Star Wars.

: 2187

01:12:25,971 --> 01:12:26,641

No, don't

: 2188

01:12:26,976 --> 01:12:27,636

Katie: No, I

: 2189

01:12:27,636 --> 01:12:27,866

know.

: 2190

01:12:27,866 --> 01:12:28,166

It's

: 2191

01:12:28,206 --> 01:12:30,256

I feel like I won't like it.

: 2192

01:12:30,256 --> 01:12:33,386

And then people who love it are going

to be annoyed by me not liking it.

: 2193

01:12:33,971 --> 01:12:35,391

Pool Scene Podcast: See,

that's the weird thing.

: 2194

01:12:35,391 --> 01:12:36,971

Like star Wars and stuff like that.

: 2195

01:12:36,971 --> 01:12:39,371

Not so much with Star

Trek, but it's tribalism.

: 2196

01:12:39,441 --> 01:12:39,741

Yeah.

: 2197

01:12:39,741 --> 01:12:42,981

It's Oh, well you do you, Oh, you

don't like Star Wars, but you're

: 2198

01:12:42,981 --> 01:12:44,301

like, you, you, you, it's come on.

: 2199

01:12:44,301 --> 01:12:46,861

People can like, and hate what

they would like, whatever.

: 2200

01:12:46,871 --> 01:12:47,241

You know, it's

: 2201

01:12:47,601 --> 01:12:48,031

aliens.

: 2202

01:12:48,296 --> 01:12:48,736

Katie: Yeah.

: 2203

01:12:49,556 --> 01:12:55,316

I just recently did a bonus episode

on the new Roadhouse remake.

: 2204

01:12:56,276 --> 01:12:59,096

so I was very much in that frame of mind.

: 2205

01:12:59,586 --> 01:12:59,876

And

: 2206

01:12:59,876 --> 01:13:01,016

so there were a few

: 2207

01:13:01,016 --> 01:13:05,496

times that I giggled at I

thought you'd be taller.

: 2208

01:13:06,096 --> 01:13:06,606

In this,

: 2209

01:13:07,246 --> 01:13:09,846

which was that just a nod to Roadhouse?

: 2210

01:13:09,846 --> 01:13:11,546

That had nothing to do with anything.

: 2211

01:13:11,786 --> 01:13:12,316

Right.

: 2212

01:13:13,341 --> 01:13:15,281

Pool Scene Podcast: I don't know if

it was a nod to roadhouse as much

: 2213

01:13:15,281 --> 01:13:17,411

as it was like an SNL, Bill Braskey.

: 2214

01:13:17,771 --> 01:13:24,721

Where I feel like Snake Plissken has a

built in like set of, you know, urban

: 2215

01:13:24,831 --> 01:13:26,941

myths or legends surrounding him.

: 2216

01:13:27,441 --> 01:13:30,071

I heard Snake Plissken was 10 feet tall.

: 2217

01:13:30,571 --> 01:13:33,561

Also, what is badass a snake

: 2218

01:13:33,861 --> 01:13:37,261

is, how does he always

keep getting caught?

: 2219

01:13:37,931 --> 01:13:38,771

This is the second

: 2220

01:13:39,311 --> 01:13:41,901

time now he's gotten a manhunt

and he's been captured.

: 2221

01:13:41,911 --> 01:13:45,271

Do you think after all these

places he's escaped from New York,

: 2222

01:13:45,271 --> 01:13:48,996

Cleveland, Kansas City, That he

would never get captured again.

: 2223

01:13:49,006 --> 01:13:52,216

Well, maybe that says something

about Snake Plissken that he

: 2224

01:13:52,216 --> 01:13:53,496

hasn't realized for himself.

: 2225

01:13:53,981 --> 01:13:55,311

Maybe he wants to be caught.

: 2226

01:13:55,471 --> 01:13:55,671

Oh,

: 2227

01:13:56,161 --> 01:13:57,111

introspection.

: 2228

01:13:57,651 --> 01:13:59,151

Because we don't know

: 2229

01:13:59,336 --> 01:13:59,866

Katie: to Canada.

: 2230

01:14:00,256 --> 01:14:00,876

That's why.

: 2231

01:14:00,876 --> 01:14:04,235

Yeah.

: 2232

01:14:04,271 --> 01:14:06,361

Pool Scene Podcast: Snake

Plissken has spent his time

: 2233

01:14:06,741 --> 01:14:09,591

between New York,

Cleveland, and Los Angeles.

: 2234

01:14:09,721 --> 01:14:10,621

What has he been doing?

: 2235

01:14:10,621 --> 01:14:11,501

Maybe he's bored.

: 2236

01:14:11,981 --> 01:14:13,671

Yeah, and he's just like,

I gotta do something, man.

: 2237

01:14:13,741 --> 01:14:14,601

I gotta get caught.

: 2238

01:14:14,601 --> 01:14:14,861

I got

: 2239

01:14:15,621 --> 01:14:17,041

these benefits that are gonna expire.

: 2240

01:14:17,041 --> 01:14:18,181

I need to be active and stuff.

: 2241

01:14:19,696 --> 01:14:20,226

Katie: And they're like,

: 2242

01:14:20,226 --> 01:14:25,296

once again, we'll give you a full part

in if you do this little maneuver for us.

: 2243

01:14:25,491 --> 01:14:28,561

So, 1 of the scenes that I really

liked in the original was the

: 2244

01:14:28,651 --> 01:14:30,791

the gladiator style fight in the,

: 2245

01:14:30,916 --> 01:14:31,336

Pool Scene Podcast: Oh yeah.

: 2246

01:14:31,451 --> 01:14:31,671

Katie: with

: 2247

01:14:31,681 --> 01:14:33,481

that big bald guy.

: 2248

01:14:34,146 --> 01:14:34,806

Pool Scene Podcast: Slag.

: 2249

01:14:35,251 --> 01:14:35,541

Katie: slang.

: 2250

01:14:35,731 --> 01:14:35,931

How do you?

: 2251

01:14:36,081 --> 01:14:37,201

Yeah, my memory is the

: 2252

01:14:37,201 --> 01:14:37,781

worst.

: 2253

01:14:38,361 --> 01:14:42,431

Well, so now we're at the football

stadium that has were shown very

: 2254

01:14:42,461 --> 01:14:45,031

similar cage style, gladiator style

: 2255

01:14:45,361 --> 01:14:46,501

matches where,

: 2256

01:14:48,191 --> 01:14:51,731

Acts as the emperor and gives

the thumbs up or the thumbs down.

: 2257

01:14:51,896 --> 01:14:52,176

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

: 2258

01:14:52,176 --> 01:14:53,876

It's like the world's worst Olympics.

: 2259

01:14:53,956 --> 01:14:54,306

Yeah.

: 2260

01:14:54,306 --> 01:14:54,496

It's

: 2261

01:14:54,966 --> 01:14:55,776

bad Olympics.

: 2262

01:14:56,726 --> 01:15:00,056

Katie: that one guy gets his head

chopped off with a giant scissors or

: 2263

01:15:00,056 --> 01:15:00,256

what?

: 2264

01:15:00,256 --> 01:15:01,596

What was that thing?

: 2265

01:15:02,136 --> 01:15:04,526

Pool Scene Podcast: And Cuervo

literally does the gladiator.

: 2266

01:15:04,586 --> 01:15:06,316

Katie: does the gladiator thumbs down,

: 2267

01:15:06,836 --> 01:15:09,406

Pool Scene Podcast: He literally does

it and, and tells them to, to do it.

: 2268

01:15:09,416 --> 01:15:11,826

He, the guy literally has

a giant pair of shears.

: 2269

01:15:11,866 --> 01:15:12,166

Yeah.

: 2270

01:15:13,116 --> 01:15:14,706

Katie: But Kurt plays basketball.

: 2271

01:15:15,326 --> 01:15:15,636

So they

: 2272

01:15:15,636 --> 01:15:15,806

have a

: 2273

01:15:15,986 --> 01:15:16,346

Pool Scene Podcast: yeah.

: 2274

01:15:16,346 --> 01:15:17,606

The basketball.

: 2275

01:15:18,086 --> 01:15:18,536

Basketball.

: 2276

01:15:19,166 --> 01:15:19,466

Katie: and the

: 2277

01:15:19,576 --> 01:15:20,656

Pool Scene Podcast: No one has ever won.

: 2278

01:15:21,116 --> 01:15:22,156

Katie: no one has won.

: 2279

01:15:22,816 --> 01:15:24,456

All the, points are two points.

: 2280

01:15:24,456 --> 01:15:25,876

like, it doesn't matter if it's a three,

: 2281

01:15:25,916 --> 01:15:28,106

like they're two 10

: 2282

01:15:28,526 --> 01:15:29,496

second shot clock,

: 2283

01:15:29,496 --> 01:15:30,446

but it's full court.

: 2284

01:15:30,456 --> 01:15:30,616

you?

: 2285

01:15:30,616 --> 01:15:31,366

can't miss.

: 2286

01:15:32,116 --> 01:15:34,276

a basket either or you'll

: 2287

01:15:34,876 --> 01:15:35,916

um, you'll get shot.

: 2288

01:15:36,356 --> 01:15:40,776

So he does it including a half court

shot, including a full court shot.

: 2289

01:15:41,471 --> 01:15:43,461

Pool Scene Podcast: while sick

with the flu, which Michael

: 2290

01:15:43,461 --> 01:15:44,931

Jordan had the flu game.

: 2291

01:15:44,991 --> 01:15:45,511

That's right.

: 2292

01:15:45,521 --> 01:15:46,121

This is the snake.

: 2293

01:15:46,131 --> 01:15:47,971

Plus 97 game five.

: 2294

01:15:47,971 --> 01:15:48,251

And you

: 2295

01:15:48,561 --> 01:15:51,211

just predicted Michael Jordan probably

saw this and was like, you know what,

: 2296

01:15:51,221 --> 01:15:52,311

I'm going to pretend to have the flu.

: 2297

01:15:52,851 --> 01:15:55,101

Now I will say this is an actual drill.

: 2298

01:15:55,121 --> 01:15:56,181

I did this drill.

: 2299

01:15:56,181 --> 01:15:57,701

And when I went to basketball camp

: 2300

01:15:58,011 --> 01:15:59,011

up and down to four, 10

: 2301

01:15:59,321 --> 01:16:01,561

seconds score as many points as you can.

: 2302

01:16:01,721 --> 01:16:04,891

Now, granted the coach wasn't

aiming a gun at me and threatened to

: 2303

01:16:04,941 --> 01:16:07,581

murder me, but it's an actual drill.

: 2304

01:16:08,216 --> 01:16:08,946

Katie: I, didn't know that.

: 2305

01:16:08,956 --> 01:16:09,136

I

: 2306

01:16:09,136 --> 01:16:10,446

am so bad under pressure

: 2307

01:16:10,446 --> 01:16:12,476

that I would immediately

: 2308

01:16:13,186 --> 01:16:13,566

miss.

: 2309

01:16:13,946 --> 01:16:14,246

Yeah.

: 2310

01:16:14,256 --> 01:16:14,486

I would

: 2311

01:16:14,521 --> 01:16:14,731

Pool Scene Podcast: I,

: 2312

01:16:15,146 --> 01:16:15,456

Katie: Yeah.

: 2313

01:16:16,081 --> 01:16:16,451

Pool Scene Podcast: Oh yeah.

: 2314

01:16:16,976 --> 01:16:18,376

Katie: but I was reading that Curt

: 2315

01:16:18,376 --> 01:16:21,988

played like he, apparently it's

him making all those shots.

: 2316

01:16:21,988 --> 01:16:22,366

Like, I

: 2317

01:16:22,366 --> 01:16:23,306

don't know how many takes it

: 2318

01:16:23,371 --> 01:16:24,341

Pool Scene Podcast: I would believe

: 2319

01:16:25,171 --> 01:16:26,721

Kurt Russell's a pretty good athlete.

: 2320

01:16:27,011 --> 01:16:30,341

I would say they probably did

the full court shot, multiple

: 2321

01:16:30,341 --> 01:16:31,901

takes and he finally, like

: 2322

01:16:32,211 --> 01:16:32,671

the Mr.

: 2323

01:16:32,671 --> 01:16:34,511

Perfect WWF vignettes

: 2324

01:16:34,771 --> 01:16:35,821

where he's Mr.

: 2325

01:16:35,821 --> 01:16:37,711

Perfect and he hits every single shot.

: 2326

01:16:37,981 --> 01:16:39,241

When you see the behind the scenes

: 2327

01:16:39,511 --> 01:16:41,521

where he's done like 20 things like Jesus.

: 2328

01:16:41,541 --> 01:16:44,571

All right, this is the last time

I'm doing it and he finally hits it.

: 2329

01:16:44,881 --> 01:16:45,891

I think that's what they did with Kurt.

: 2330

01:16:45,891 --> 01:16:46,171

Kurt.

: 2331

01:16:48,351 --> 01:16:48,511

Yeah.

: 2332

01:16:48,511 --> 01:16:50,891

I just love in the basketball

scene when Cuervo is like, I

: 2333

01:16:50,891 --> 01:16:53,341

promised you all something special.

: 2334

01:16:53,721 --> 01:16:55,421

You know, I'm going to

kill snake Plissken.

: 2335

01:16:55,801 --> 01:16:56,821

Why doesn't he just kill him?

: 2336

01:16:57,061 --> 01:16:57,921

Do it already.

: 2337

01:16:58,201 --> 01:16:58,951

Why does he give up?

: 2338

01:16:58,981 --> 01:17:00,931

I mean, Cuervo has got a heart I guess.

: 2339

01:17:00,961 --> 01:17:02,131

Cause he allows

: 2340

01:17:03,521 --> 01:17:06,591

snake to at least try and he does it.

: 2341

01:17:07,116 --> 01:17:08,086

And listen, in near

: 2342

01:17:08,156 --> 01:17:09,786

Katie: but then he shoots him anyway.

: 2343

01:17:09,876 --> 01:17:10,186

Mm

: 2344

01:17:11,076 --> 01:17:15,096

Pool Scene Podcast: anyway, and in the

end you have a whole, his whole army is

: 2345

01:17:15,096 --> 01:17:17,526

surrounding that United States police

: 2346

01:17:17,896 --> 01:17:18,386

helicopter.

: 2347

01:17:18,386 --> 01:17:20,066

You're telling me at any given time,

: 2348

01:17:21,006 --> 01:17:21,836

you couldn't have killed him.

: 2349

01:17:21,876 --> 01:17:26,396

Also big logic issue at the very beginning

of this movie, during Jamie Lee's rundown,

: 2350

01:17:26,806 --> 01:17:27,296

they said the new

: 2351

01:17:27,566 --> 01:17:30,925

United States police

force was created in: 1998

: 2352

01:17:30,925 --> 01:17:30,946

If

: 2353

01:17:31,526 --> 01:17:34,666

you listen to the first movie,

the United States police force was

: 2354

01:17:34,666 --> 01:17:36,576

created already in the first movie.

: 2355

01:17:36,576 --> 01:17:36,966

So,

: 2356

01:17:37,766 --> 01:17:38,306

logic.

: 2357

01:17:38,556 --> 01:17:39,596

Katie: Ah,

: 2358

01:17:39,861 --> 01:17:40,300

Pool Scene Podcast: Why?

: 2359

01:17:40,331 --> 01:17:41,281

Why screw that up?

: 2360

01:17:41,391 --> 01:17:42,021

I don't know.

: 2361

01:17:42,021 --> 01:17:45,800

It was probably, it's one of those things

where my nerdy ass mind goes, Ha ha!

: 2362

01:17:45,811 --> 01:17:46,641

I got you.

: 2363

01:17:47,346 --> 01:17:49,925

Katie: because when did

that one take place in 97?

: 2364

01:17:50,731 --> 01:17:52,581

Pool Scene Podcast: The

first one took place in 97.

: 2365

01:17:52,721 --> 01:17:53,651

So, yeah.

: 2366

01:17:54,981 --> 01:17:56,811

then, doesn't this one start, yeah, in 98?

: 2367

01:17:56,841 --> 01:17:58,021

First one starts in 98.

: 2368

01:17:58,021 --> 01:17:58,361

Yeah.

: 2369

01:17:58,371 --> 01:18:00,131

No, this one starts in 98.

: 2370

01:18:00,131 --> 01:18:01,191

98 and it jumps forward.

: 2371

01:18:02,396 --> 01:18:04,896

Katie: I quite liked the motorcycle scene

: 2372

01:18:05,686 --> 01:18:06,946

towards the beginning.

: 2373

01:18:06,946 --> 01:18:08,416

I thought that was a really good.

: 2374

01:18:08,856 --> 01:18:11,876

I mean, yes, it's like, he's

an invincible person because he

: 2375

01:18:11,876 --> 01:18:13,046

loses his guns

: 2376

01:18:13,436 --> 01:18:16,696

and then everybody's shooting at

him, but he somehow never gets shot.

: 2377

01:18:17,396 --> 01:18:21,126

Pool Scene Podcast: I think this was the

scene where we get the original gruff

: 2378

01:18:21,126 --> 01:18:23,066

snake Plissken, where he's what is it?

: 2379

01:18:23,066 --> 01:18:25,996

Can I Bangkok draw or something

like, or whatever it's called where

: 2380

01:18:25,996 --> 01:18:27,316

he throws the can up in the air

: 2381

01:18:28,136 --> 01:18:31,536

and he's like, nobody touch your

gun until it hits the ground.

: 2382

01:18:31,536 --> 01:18:35,016

And he, he pulls the snake

thing, mows them all down

: 2383

01:18:35,326 --> 01:18:35,946

and goes

: 2384

01:18:36,666 --> 01:18:37,066

draw.

: 2385

01:18:37,686 --> 01:18:37,906

It's

: 2386

01:18:38,336 --> 01:18:38,866

awesome.

: 2387

01:18:38,876 --> 01:18:39,626

It's so cool.

: 2388

01:18:39,766 --> 01:18:40,396

Katie: It is.

: 2389

01:18:41,246 --> 01:18:42,256

He's a trickster.

: 2390

01:18:42,906 --> 01:18:43,736

What did you guys think

: 2391

01:18:43,736 --> 01:18:46,876

of the, I guess, police force chopper?

: 2392

01:18:47,726 --> 01:18:48,286

Pool Scene Podcast: it's cool.

: 2393

01:18:48,326 --> 01:18:49,236

I like the, the

: 2394

01:18:49,286 --> 01:18:50,536

the collapsible.

: 2395

01:18:51,281 --> 01:18:54,431

Yeah, I almost said antennas,

the collapsible, it's a fly, the

: 2396

01:18:54,431 --> 01:18:56,481

collapsible propellers are really cool.

: 2397

01:18:56,961 --> 01:19:01,221

It's really, we're in that

age of where Stealth was the

: 2398

01:19:01,491 --> 01:19:03,811

the end all be all

: 2399

01:19:04,121 --> 01:19:05,841

it they're, they got pretty bad ass

: 2400

01:19:06,221 --> 01:19:06,721

ships.

: 2401

01:19:06,721 --> 01:19:07,241

I like them.

: 2402

01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:08,061

Yeah.

: 2403

01:19:08,061 --> 01:19:08,821

It's, It's, funny.

: 2404

01:19:08,841 --> 01:19:10,941

Cause it, and it's a shootout in the end

: 2405

01:19:11,431 --> 01:19:13,851

when he's like in the

helicopter, it's indestructible.

: 2406

01:19:14,341 --> 01:19:14,981

And then

: 2407

01:19:15,531 --> 01:19:18,331

they're not really like

completely in it now.

: 2408

01:19:18,391 --> 01:19:20,861

And then Eddie falls out

of it or jumps out of it.

: 2409

01:19:20,871 --> 01:19:21,161

Whatever.

: 2410

01:19:21,161 --> 01:19:25,371

Whenever, when Cuervo Cuervo, despite

being shot, shoots the rocket launcher at.

: 2411

01:19:25,986 --> 01:19:28,186

Eddie map of the stars,

which is a bad name.

: 2412

01:19:28,236 --> 01:19:28,446

Yeah.

: 2413

01:19:30,076 --> 01:19:30,896

Katie: I, I don't know.

: 2414

01:19:30,896 --> 01:19:31,146

Maybe

: 2415

01:19:31,196 --> 01:19:34,806

my expectations were so low, but

I thought that the futuristic

: 2416

01:19:34,806 --> 01:19:36,266

helicopter was pretty sweet.

: 2417

01:19:36,616 --> 01:19:36,876

Pool Scene Podcast: Yeah.

: 2418

01:19:36,916 --> 01:19:37,086

Yeah.

: 2419

01:19:37,086 --> 01:19:37,656

I dug it.

: 2420

01:19:38,336 --> 01:19:39,666

It reminded me of air Wolf.

: 2421

01:19:42,346 --> 01:19:42,686

Katie: I did

: 2422

01:19:42,726 --> 01:19:43,346

Pool Scene Podcast: Do you remember?

: 2423

01:19:43,956 --> 01:19:45,726

You remember it was eighties

: 2424

01:19:46,175 --> 01:19:49,346

TV show about a cool, it

was basically night rider.

: 2425

01:19:49,366 --> 01:19:53,446

A team combined into a Jan

Michael Vincent, Ernest Borg

: 2426

01:19:53,446 --> 01:19:55,086

nine, weirdly enough, was also

: 2427

01:19:56,261 --> 01:19:57,341

Katie: Interesting.

: 2428

01:19:57,861 --> 01:20:00,581

Again, like the beat for beat at the end.

: 2429

01:20:01,331 --> 01:20:03,291

So snake is constantly.

: 2430

01:20:04,421 --> 01:20:05,821

Correcting people, they'll say,

: 2431

01:20:05,821 --> 01:20:07,331

do this and he's

: 2432

01:20:07,381 --> 01:20:08,441

The name is snake

: 2433

01:20:08,441 --> 01:20:14,631

or it's snake until the end when

he finally says snake correctly.

: 2434

01:20:15,011 --> 01:20:20,401

The commander and snake says, the

name's and he tries to walk away just

: 2435

01:20:20,401 --> 01:20:21,731

like, he did in the 1st, 1 with a

: 2436

01:20:21,741 --> 01:20:23,081

cigarette, but they don't, you can't

: 2437

01:20:23,091 --> 01:20:23,851

smoke there.

: 2438

01:20:24,201 --> 01:20:27,141

but then he I loved the

end the final, final

: 2439

01:20:27,141 --> 01:20:27,971

end where he's

: 2440

01:20:27,996 --> 01:20:28,376

Pool Scene Podcast: Awesome.

: 2441

01:20:29,431 --> 01:20:32,241

Katie: he finds a cigarette and

he still has matches from the

: 2442

01:20:32,241 --> 01:20:33,351

kit that he had.

: 2443

01:20:33,976 --> 01:20:38,376

And he gets to smoke and what

was the final line that he says?

: 2444

01:20:38,836 --> 01:20:40,246

Pool Scene Podcast: The

picture fades to black.

: 2445

01:20:40,586 --> 01:20:42,286

And it's something about darkness or

: 2446

01:20:42,586 --> 01:20:44,076

Katie: Welcome to the human race.

: 2447

01:20:44,516 --> 01:20:45,516

Pool Scene Podcast:

Welcome to the human race.

: 2448

01:20:45,516 --> 01:20:45,956

That's it.

: 2449

01:20:47,136 --> 01:20:48,036

Katie: That was pretty great.

: 2450

01:20:49,146 --> 01:20:50,586

Pool Scene Podcast: And

then we escape from earth.

: 2451

01:20:50,846 --> 01:20:52,136

I, it's sadly, I, I wish for

: 2452

01:20:52,486 --> 01:20:52,766

this.

: 2453

01:20:52,806 --> 01:20:53,356

I want,

: 2454

01:20:53,896 --> 01:20:57,346

I want all technology to be shut down

and I want to revert back to stone age.

: 2455

01:20:57,356 --> 01:20:57,856

Yeah.

: 2456

01:20:58,106 --> 01:20:59,686

So I'm like cheering this ending.

: 2457

01:20:59,686 --> 01:21:00,896

Yes, that's awesome.

: 2458

01:21:00,906 --> 01:21:03,256

Give me snake Plissken killing a T Rex.

: 2459

01:21:03,256 --> 01:21:04,116

Let's get crazy.

: 2460

01:21:04,236 --> 01:21:05,425

Katie: Killing a T Rex.

: 2461

01:21:05,896 --> 01:21:06,496

Pool Scene Podcast: Let's do it.

: 2462

01:21:06,596 --> 01:21:07,876

Katie: yeah, he's on a different planet

: 2463

01:21:07,876 --> 01:21:08,306

now.

: 2464

01:21:08,986 --> 01:21:10,386

Pool Scene Podcast: Snake

Plissken at Jurassic Park.

: 2465

01:21:11,576 --> 01:21:12,056

So

: 2466

01:21:12,736 --> 01:21:16,436

snake in, to your point a

little bit earlier, Jim snake,

: 2467

01:21:17,006 --> 01:21:18,686

The way he always gets captured.

: 2468

01:21:18,776 --> 01:21:19,206

Yeah.

: 2469

01:21:19,346 --> 01:21:19,726

He

: 2470

01:21:20,276 --> 01:21:22,356

also, while in a LA,

: 2471

01:21:22,675 --> 01:21:24,356

he gets duped by Eddie,

: 2472

01:21:24,866 --> 01:21:26,175

which ends up at Cuervo.

: 2473

01:21:26,566 --> 01:21:29,925

This super weird to me because

he's a sucker person, but

: 2474

01:21:30,936 --> 01:21:33,166

Cuervo puts snake on a treadmill.

: 2475

01:21:33,166 --> 01:21:34,646

He changed them to a treadmill.

: 2476

01:21:35,896 --> 01:21:38,306

And then Cuervo goes live.

: 2477

01:21:38,856 --> 01:21:40,106

To the whole universe.

: 2478

01:21:40,106 --> 01:21:41,776

And that's how they know

snake is still alive.

: 2479

01:21:41,786 --> 01:21:42,166

And

: 2480

01:21:43,446 --> 01:21:45,766

Cuervo's delivering

this speech to everyone.

: 2481

01:21:45,856 --> 01:21:48,276

If I were watching that broadcast,

I'd say, why is there a guy in

: 2482

01:21:48,276 --> 01:21:49,476

the background on a treadmill?

: 2483

01:21:49,675 --> 01:21:51,316

Why is there a guy with an iPad on a

: 2484

01:21:51,686 --> 01:21:51,906

treadmill?

: 2485

01:21:51,936 --> 01:21:53,886

Running, is he doing Peloton?

: 2486

01:21:53,916 --> 01:21:54,266

What's happening right now?

: 2487

01:21:54,266 --> 01:21:56,406

Everybody else is standing

around tough with guns.

: 2488

01:21:56,406 --> 01:21:58,746

And you got Cuervo there,

which everybody knows.

: 2489

01:21:58,746 --> 01:22:04,526

And you got utopia and, but then

guy on a treadmill, so random.

: 2490

01:22:05,556 --> 01:22:07,746

Katie: Why does the president is he?

: 2491

01:22:08,901 --> 01:22:09,921

Is it supposed to be like a

: 2492

01:22:09,921 --> 01:22:11,121

commentary on that

: 2493

01:22:11,121 --> 01:22:12,151

type of person, like the

: 2494

01:22:12,151 --> 01:22:13,231

Pat Robertson type,

: 2495

01:22:13,611 --> 01:22:16,271

that he's really not such

a good guy after all?

: 2496

01:22:16,271 --> 01:22:18,411

Because he orders his own

daughter to be killed.

: 2497

01:22:18,496 --> 01:22:20,946

Mm

: 2498

01:22:21,266 --> 01:22:23,836

Pool Scene Podcast: We got to

talk about utopia and how she

: 2499

01:22:23,836 --> 01:22:25,566

ended up in this situation anyway.

: 2500

01:22:26,416 --> 01:22:31,156

She was secretly addicted or doing VR.

: 2501

01:22:31,386 --> 01:22:31,766

Yeah.

: 2502

01:22:31,836 --> 01:22:33,696

She's addicted to virtual reality.

: 2503

01:22:33,716 --> 01:22:34,906

And somehow.

: 2504

01:22:35,391 --> 01:22:36,461

That's morally wrong.

: 2505

01:22:36,471 --> 01:22:40,221

Cuervo infiltrated VR.

: 2506

01:22:40,261 --> 01:22:41,491

It's the lawnmower man.

: 2507

01:22:41,621 --> 01:22:42,881

Was that through a hack?

: 2508

01:22:43,391 --> 01:22:44,911

Yeah, it might've been.

: 2509

01:22:44,921 --> 01:22:49,431

So somehow Cuervo is like

next level mastermind.

: 2510

01:22:49,691 --> 01:22:50,791

We covered this movie.

: 2511

01:22:51,231 --> 01:22:52,561

You know exactly what movie.

: 2512

01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:54,711

Well, strange days.

: 2513

01:22:54,721 --> 01:22:55,761

No, not strange days.

: 2514

01:22:55,831 --> 01:22:59,431

VR or no, the TV, the TV Edward Furlong.

: 2515

01:23:00,221 --> 01:23:02,451

Oh, brain scan, brain scan, brain scans.

: 2516

01:23:02,891 --> 01:23:03,300

Yeah.

: 2517

01:23:03,581 --> 01:23:04,001

Yeah.

: 2518

01:23:04,050 --> 01:23:10,291

So somehow Cuervo manages to infiltrate

the virtual reality and it's like

: 2519

01:23:10,291 --> 01:23:12,401

him in like a field of flowers.

: 2520

01:23:12,601 --> 01:23:13,341

So weird.

: 2521

01:23:13,411 --> 01:23:14,771

And just that one shot.

: 2522

01:23:14,851 --> 01:23:20,421

So the president's daughter, Utopia falls

in love with a virtual version of Cuervo.

: 2523

01:23:21,026 --> 01:23:25,906

And then I'm assuming just like

catches a ride to LA or does she

: 2524

01:23:25,906 --> 01:23:27,376

commit a moral crime to be sent?

: 2525

01:23:27,976 --> 01:23:30,786

Would her dad consider

this pornography then?

: 2526

01:23:31,156 --> 01:23:31,606

I don't

: 2527

01:23:31,776 --> 01:23:32,326

Katie: and then she

: 2528

01:23:32,356 --> 01:23:35,466

must have been on like, like

an Air force One type plane,

: 2529

01:23:35,466 --> 01:23:38,076

because they talk about her escape

: 2530

01:23:38,206 --> 01:23:38,916

Pool Scene Podcast: force three.

: 2531

01:23:39,336 --> 01:23:39,456

Yeah.

: 2532

01:23:39,456 --> 01:23:40,806

She was on air force three.

: 2533

01:23:40,966 --> 01:23:41,116

Yeah.

: 2534

01:23:41,556 --> 01:23:44,966

Katie: She landed in the

prison scape, because

: 2535

01:23:45,421 --> 01:23:48,800

In the same way of the

first movie, it was an

: 2536

01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:49,800

escape pod.

: 2537

01:23:50,511 --> 01:23:55,871

That's how she lands there with that

black box that she took that has the

: 2538

01:23:55,876 --> 01:23:56,546

Pool Scene Podcast: Also reminiscent

: 2539

01:23:57,126 --> 01:23:58,196

counterpart of the first

: 2540

01:23:59,036 --> 01:24:03,096

escape pod, the national

liberation front for America,

: 2541

01:24:03,291 --> 01:24:03,921

Katie: Mm

: 2542

01:24:04,716 --> 01:24:08,166

Pool Scene Podcast: which I wonder in

a way they don't mention it in this

: 2543

01:24:08,166 --> 01:24:11,086

movie, but it almost seems like Cuervo.

: 2544

01:24:11,476 --> 01:24:15,136

Is like the West coast leader of the

national liberation front of America,

: 2545

01:24:15,346 --> 01:24:17,436

but he has more of a global Alliance.

: 2546

01:24:17,436 --> 01:24:20,175

Like the Cubans are going to evade Miami.

: 2547

01:24:20,526 --> 01:24:22,506

You have people coming up from Mexico.

: 2548

01:24:22,506 --> 01:24:22,936

He is.

: 2549

01:24:23,396 --> 01:24:28,216

Well organized very well or

probably through VR maybe yeah,

: 2550

01:24:28,416 --> 01:24:32,186

see that's a way more interesting

movie Yeah, if you've got this

: 2551

01:24:32,906 --> 01:24:37,756

this Revolutionary leader who's

infiltrate like sending messages through

: 2552

01:24:37,756 --> 01:24:40,146

your VR VR that the you know, the u.

: 2553

01:24:40,146 --> 01:24:40,296

s.

: 2554

01:24:40,296 --> 01:24:41,516

Doesn't know about pretty awesome

: 2555

01:24:42,206 --> 01:24:42,656

Katie: I don't know.

: 2556

01:24:42,656 --> 01:24:42,756

I

: 2557

01:24:42,756 --> 01:24:45,976

felt like there was a few items that

being 1 of them, they introduced

: 2558

01:24:45,976 --> 01:24:47,966

a few too many complex things just real

: 2559

01:24:47,966 --> 01:24:48,326

quickly.

: 2560

01:24:48,326 --> 01:24:49,366

Like, just like a really.

: 2561

01:24:50,346 --> 01:24:52,486

Barely touched on it and

it's wait, what happened now?

: 2562

01:24:52,486 --> 01:24:53,826

Pool Scene Podcast: very much band aids

: 2563

01:24:54,266 --> 01:24:56,046

for how do we get from here to here,

: 2564

01:24:56,596 --> 01:24:58,526

but yeah, we're not going

to explain it to you.

: 2565

01:24:59,046 --> 01:24:59,226

Katie: I

: 2566

01:24:59,226 --> 01:25:01,096

did so I have not seen this

: 2567

01:25:01,096 --> 01:25:02,556

movie, but John Carpenter's

: 2568

01:25:02,566 --> 01:25:04,156

ghosts of Mars.

: 2569

01:25:04,606 --> 01:25:07,476

From: 2001

that movie or heard of it even?

: 2570

01:25:08,226 --> 01:25:08,566

Pool Scene Podcast: hmm.

: 2571

01:25:08,566 --> 01:25:08,846

Long time ago.

: 2572

01:25:08,846 --> 01:25:09,675

Long time ago.

: 2573

01:25:09,736 --> 01:25:10,036

Yeah.

: 2574

01:25:10,316 --> 01:25:10,866

Katie: Well,

: 2575

01:25:11,586 --> 01:25:12,786

I've never even heard of it,

: 2576

01:25:12,786 --> 01:25:15,016

but apparently it, was originally intended

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to be the third Snake Plissken film

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titled Escape from Mars.

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Pool Scene Podcast: Oh, going from Mars.

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How

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Katie: But then I

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