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105. Building a Leader Within Yourself: Deep Ruminations with Chet Scott
Episode 10521st February 2022 • Gravity • Brett Kaufman
00:00:00 00:58:24

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Chet Scott is back for his third episode of Gravity. We covered the usual Gravity questions in his previous appearances, so this time, we thought we’d go off-format and enjoy a simple conversation between the two of us friends. It’s always worth listening when Chet starts speaking. 

Last time Chet was on the podcast, he told me the story of his recent heart attack, so we start this episode with how he’s doing now, several months later. We discuss his athletic upbringing and how it ultimately shaped how he discovered his place as a leader – before we break down his delayed embrace of the arts.

Now, Chet is an artist who sees words as his medium. As well as writing, he spends a huge amount of time reading. We talk all about his approach to reading and how it differs from the ways that other people approach books. We also talk about the true power of writing – and creating art in general, as we try to drill down into what it really means to create something.

Things get especially introspective when Chet prompts me to answer one of my questions on his behalf. We then get into the very role of God in our lives, and how we can make sure that we spend our lives pursuing what really matters. 

It’s so easy to fall into a trap of convincing ourselves that we love what we do when we actually don’t. Chet has amazing advice about how you can tell the difference.

What Brett asks:

  • [01:47] Where are you in life, these days, following your heart attack?
  • [02:30] Can you elaborate on exactly what opus means to you?
  • [05:48] Why is it hard for people to realize that we need to love our work?
  • [09:21] How can we be sure that we haven’t convinced ourselves that we love our work when we actually don’t?
  • [18:19] How do you define being an artist?
  • [21:22] Are we all born to be artists or creators?
  • [24:48] How much are you willing to step in and guide someone else as their truth teller?
  • [31:07] How much time do you spend continuing to learn about yourself?
  • [33:49] What role does reading play in your life?
  • [40:19] How do you decide how to spend your time?
  • [52:31] Any last words before we finish?

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