WEEK 49 [NAHUM; HABAKKUK; ZEPHANIAH]
“His Ways Are Everlasting”
November 28 – December 4
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::Maria: And welcome back everybody.
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::This is week 49 of Creative.
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::Come Follow me for the Old
Testament, and we have three
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::new profits for you to study.
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::This is a week of Nahham
and have Cook and Zephaniah.
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::And if you've ever had a friend recommend
a new restaurant or maybe a new store
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::that you've never been into before,
and then you were just delighted with
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::what you have found when you went in,
that's how I felt about these books.
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::It's not that I'd never read them
before, I just had never gone through
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::them in a lot of detail before, and
I was surprised at how much I liked
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::them for very different reasons.
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::They have different teaching styles,
they're addressing different audiences.
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::They're in different time periods.
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::But between the three profits, I
felt like there was this resounding
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::message of appreciate the space.
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::I'll try and go into this a little
more with each one, but one of my
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::favorite teachings that the Book of
Mormon offers that we don't quite get
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::in the Bible is this understanding of
after the fall there was this space
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::granted on demand, this mortal space
to perfect themselves, to repent.
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::There's a lot of beautiful verses in
the Book of Mormon that teach about
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::how God granted us this space so that
men would have time to come to him.
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::And I feel like that was the message
of all three of these prophets.
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::It's where are you in that space?
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::Each of them is gonna address
people at different points.
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::Some, like, for example, when we go
into Naim, he's gonna teach the Nevis
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::a hundred years after Jonah, when
things have gone downhill really fast.
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::And their space of time where they could
have repented is pretty much at its end.
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::And then you're gonna shift gears
and you're gonna go into Hauck.
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::Who's gonna wonder?
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::Why it is that God grants so much
space to some . He's gonna wrestle
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::a little bit to try and understand
why God allows wicked people to do
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::wickedness, especially against his people.
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::Interestingly, his people aren't
doing a great job on their own, but
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::he's basically saying, those guys are
worse and you're letting them beat us.
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::And he, he has to wrestle
with that understanding, so he
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::wonders about that space as well.
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::Then you're gonna get into
Zephaniah and his words are
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::more about the day of the Lord.
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::It's kind of a message to all of us, both
his time to the north, to the south, to
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::all the surrounding areas, and it's a
message for us about how there will be.
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::A day of the Lord, there will
be an end where we will need to
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::stand and we will need to decide
at that point where we stand.
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::And his invitation is a really
clear one, which is choosy this day.
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::I mean, those aren't his words, but
that's the message I got from Ze and I.
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::It was, now you know all your
choices and you know about this
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::space that's granted unto men.
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::So choose ye this day who you'll serve.
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::And he says it in some of the
most profound ways I've read in
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::almost anywhere in scripture.
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::So see, I told you, you're gonna love it.
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::Okay?
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::Grab your scriptures, grab your
notes, you guys, let's get started.
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::When I was 19, I think I got
a chance to serve on a jury.
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::And it's the only time in my
life when I've been picked and
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::actually had to attend court and
got to be part of that process.
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::And maybe because I was so young
and fresh at the time, I loved it.
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::I thought the whole thing was fascinating.
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::I loved it.
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::And one of the parts I remember
most distinctly in my mind is when
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::the head juror had to deliver our
verdict because we deliberated and
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::debated and all came to a consensus
about what the verdict needed to be.
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::And the man who was on trial was
guilty according to our understanding.
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::And I remember the, the gravity in the
room when the juror had to stand up and
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::read our verdict, not just because it was
a hard verdict to say, but also because he
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::knew the consequences that would probably
befall the men who was on trial and.
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::you could tell he appreciated
the heaviness of that
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::moment and the way he spoke.
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::I'll just never forget it.
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::I didn't even think of that
moment for probably the last
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::10 years until I read Naim.
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::So when I was reading his message, this
burden, that's what's called in verse
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::one, it's the burden of Niva because
when he goes to Niva, it's over a
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::hundred years since Jonah's time and.
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::This city that once had everyone
converting all at once and they
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::were in Ack cloth and ashes.
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::They have gone downhill
fast, but they've also grown.
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::So where they were just kind
of one of the cities of many
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::in the last time we studied it.
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::Now Neva has become this great capital
of asi, which is this huge empire
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::ended his swollen in its problems.
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::It's it's become that wicked blood
thirsty torturous group of people
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::that we read about in the past.
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::And their space to repent has
run out and that's basically Nams
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::message that their time has run
out and that the Lord is furious.
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::In fact, it was fascinating to me.
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::If you look at two and three,
it talks about the anger of God.
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::That is, his anger is furious.
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::That's the word that's chosen, that he'll
take vengeance on his adversaries and then
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::in three Na, whom reminds them that the
Lord is slow to anger and great in power
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::and will not at all acquit the wicked.
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::The contrast I thought was really
interesting that he, I think
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::this is the nature of God, to
have this level of temperance, to
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::understand mercy and justice and
keep it in this perfect balance.
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::That's the nature of God.
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::In fact, it reminded me of what we
read in Peter in the New Testament.
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::I think it's in second Peter.
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::It's in the notes if
you wanna go look at it.
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::But he talks about that chain
that leads us to godliness.
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::So it starts at faith and goes
to virtue and then knowledge, and
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::then from knowledge to temperance
and temperance to patients, and
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::then from patients to godliness.
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::That's the process I think that we're
trying to learn from Naim is he's
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::saying that God can do both these
things shows us that he is God because
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::he, he gave them lots of space to
repent and lots of opportunities
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::to change, and they chose not to.
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::So now in his perfect justice, he will
not acquit the wicked and there will be
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::some harsh consequences and you'll see
some of those laid out in chapter one.
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::But I think what's really interesting is.
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::In addition to those consequences,
you also hear mayhem talk
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::about the goodness of God.
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::It's in Seven is about where it begins.
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::It says the Lord is good, a
strong hold in the day of trouble.
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::And he knoweth them that trust in him.
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::Mahe is still a prophet of God
and God's character is good and
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::everything he does is for our good.
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::So that's his.
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::He's trying to help them understand.
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::And I think trying to help me
understand that even when there
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::are harsh consequences that come my
way, his intent is to do me good.
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::I think his intent with the
Assyrians is to do them good.
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::They're, they're at a point, kind
of like to remember with the city
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::of Amman, IHA in the Book of Mormon
and Alma and lik watched people burn
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::and Amulek really wanted to rush in.
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::I'm sure Alma did too, but
they really wanted to save.
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::New converts from the fire and
they were held back by the spirit.
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::Um, because there needed to
be consequences that play out.
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::That's where Ahe is, and his
message is strong like that one.
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::And I'm sure it was hard to say and
carry out, but the invitation is remember
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::that God is good, he's good to all of
you, if you would just trust in him.
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::In fact, I love the end of verse
seven cause I feel like his invitation
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::is almost like the 10 virgins.
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::You know?
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::He says, I know you
not , you didn't know me.
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::There is no, we've been talking
the last few weeks about President
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::Nelson's message from that October
Leo Hona magazine, where he talked
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::about covenants being a relationship.
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::That's what I think of when I read
verse seven, that he's basically saying
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::to them, We have no relationship.
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::You don't know me, you don't know
my character, and when you don't
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::know me, you won't trust in me.
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::So this is where we've ended up.
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::I think it's really interesting
also what he says in nine.
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::He kind of adding to that thought.
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::He says, what do you imagine against
the Lord that he will make an utter end?
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::Affliction shall not
rise up a second time.
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::This idea of us imagining things
against the Lord I think is really
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::interesting cuz I think we all have
this tendency when things don't go well,
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::you start to say things in your mind
like, why would God let this happen?
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::If he's a loving God?
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::Why would, and then you fill in the
blank with whatever your trial or your
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::friend's adversities might be, and you
start imagining what God's purposes were
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::or why he would allow things to happen.
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::And honestly, for me, more
often I start to wonder if.
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::Is absent, you know, why would
he let these things happen?
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::He must be absent.
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::And that I think is imagining
things against the Lord.
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::When you've built up a relationship
with God and a trust in God, it's a
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::lot easier to remember the long game.
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::It's a lot easier to trust that he can
make all things work together for good.
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::It's a lot easier to understand that there
are intersections of agency that will
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::knock us off our feet, but he promises
that he can make all things right.
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::In fact, we'll see that in the
verses here in just a little bit.
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::But I love that reminder to not
imagine wickedness against God.
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::This is all because of their own choices.
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::They were warned, they chose it anyway
and so he as this perfect and just God
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::will, will repay what they asked for.
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::So that's what you'll see in the verses.
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::Some other things you'll see as
you go a little further in 14 and
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::15, basically the end will come.
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::God will not be mocked.
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::That was in the footnotes in
a few different places and.
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::There is no way that you can
work your way through wickedness
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::and get out on the other side.
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::You either need to turn to him and repent
and let the Lord take on those burdens,
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::or you suffer the consequences yourself.
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::And that's kind of where they are.
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::But he does make promises about this
Lord who can burst these bonds, who could
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::have saved, they just didn't want it.
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::But you have to love how it ends.
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::In 15 he, he takes it all the way back to
God the same way Isaiah did and Aai does.
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::In the Book of Mormon, he talks
about behold upon the mountains
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::are the feet of him that bringeth
good tidings, that publishes peace.
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::In this message of destruction and hard
and consequence, there is this persistent
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::promise of peace and it is hope filled.
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::And I think it's what's gonna carry
Naim all the way into chapter.
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::There's some pretty strong language in
Naim chapter two, which makes you wonder
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::if Naim really misses being able to talk
about publishing peace and those beautiful
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::verses at the end of chapter one.
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::Two's tougher cuz this is where he
has to sort of lay down the law for
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::what's going on with the Nena bytes.
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::But there's this interesting insertion
that I think is important to note
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::because you're gonna see this message
come through some of the other books of
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::scripture, and I think it's pretty cool.
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::The way Mayhem introduces it.
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::He says into, for the Lord have
turned away the Excellency of
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::Jacob as the Excellency of Israel.
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::And then he's gonna talk about all
the things that it's gonna happen, all
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::the issues that Niah is gonna have.
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::The reason I think this matters is
because I think what Mayhem is trying
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::to teach us is that it's not so much
that the Lord helped the Assyrians win,
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::especially over the children of Israel.
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::The Lord doesn't bless the wicked.
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::That's not how that works.
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::What happened is because
the children of Israel.
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::Didn't show up.
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::They lost their blessings.
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::They turned against the covenant
relationship that the Lord has
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::perpetually invited them into.
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::They turned against it.
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::And so the Lord had to
pull back his light.
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::And when the Lord pull backs, his
light, darkness floods the same way.
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::If I, you know, mess with a light
switch, I can turn on the light,
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::but I can't turn on darkness.
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::Darkness comes when the light is off.
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::And that's basically what's happened here.
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::It reminded me of if you ever played on
a team, you know, like when we would play
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::volleyball, there would be many games
where I can remember losing, but it's not
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::because the other team was so great or had
all these , you know, had all this talent.
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::It's cuz we didn't show up the right way.
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::We had lots of fouls, we would serve
into the net, we mess, you know, we
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::didn't show up and so we lost the game.
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::That's kind of what he's
saying here to the Ninevites.
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::It's not that the Lord is helping them
win, it's that because the Israelites
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::lost their covenant connection.
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::He can't help them.
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::And then, You know, the light goes
out and darkness fills the room.
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::That's what's happening here.
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::So when you go through the chapter,
you're gonna see the warnings
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::about that, that they're gonna
cry out at some point in time.
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::The Assyrians are gonna get conquered by
the Babylonians, and the Babylonians are
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::gonna show no more seat to this group.
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::And they don't deserve it, quite frankly.
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::Like they, they're not repentant.
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::They were torturous to all the
neighboring areas and conquered
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::everything in their path.
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::And the Babylonians are gonna
wipe them out basically.
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::And so the warning like intent is you're
gonna be empty and void and waste.
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::In fact, he warns that the king
who used to be able to dominate the
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::land and go out and get and bring
it back to his young, that that's
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::not gonna be an option anymore.
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::There will be nothing for him to get.
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::And that's kinda what
happens with the Assyrians.
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::They don't have any
place to conquer anymore.
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::In fact, they get conquered.
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::One of the coolest things
I learned this week.
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::About this was the way the Lord shows
up for those who have been abused, asy.
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::A wicked, torturous, abusive nation.
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::And there will come a point
when the Lord says Enough.
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::In fact, I feel like
that's what he says in 13.
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::Behold, I am against the
sayeth, the Lord of hosts.
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::There is no question where the
Lord stands when it comes to abuse.
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::And I think we've heard that in conference
talks for the last several conferences
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::about understanding how the Lord shows up
for those who have been abused, and this
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::is the end of the line for the ne bytes,
their gross wickedness is it will stop.
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::And if you, if that's something
that triggers your heart, go into
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::the notes because there were so
many quotes from just this last
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::conference and the one before that.
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::Ah, so good.
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::Anyway, I just think to know that the
Lord stands up and says This is finished.
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::You're done, is a comforting
thing for all involved.
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::So go study the notes.
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::Prophets teach that those who live
by the sword will die by the sword.
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::And that's basically the outcome you
see in Niva in this last chapter.
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::This is where Naim talks about the
bloody city and what's gonna happen.
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::I've always read that verse as
like, because they cause so much
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::bloodshed in their conquering that
they're called the bloody city.
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::And I think that that could still be true.
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::But I also was thinking about what we've
learned about the repentance process and
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::what I learned in the doctrine covenants
about, you know, after judgment, if you
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::have chosen not to repent and not to turn
to the savior, then all the sins that
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::you've committed, you have to suffer for.
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::And I wonder if a, a piece of the
bloody city is that it's not so much
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::this neon sign of how wicked you
are, it's about where you'll end up
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::and what's gonna happen to your soul
and how hard it will be for you to.
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::Take on the consequences of your choices
when you're as far off course as Neva was.
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::I also think there's a warning
in here about that there are
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::no second generation saints.
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::I was just talking to my sister Sarah
about this idea that every generation, no
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::matter how stalwart your parents were, you
all, we all have to decide where we stand.
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::I mean, thinking about it, just a hundred
years ago, they were pretty solid.
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::Everyone converted under Jonah, but within
a few generations it's completely gone.
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::All of that testimony is gone.
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::And so I think it's just this big
reminder to carry on the covenant,
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::you know, to do everything I can as a
parent to, to pass on these promises and
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::this testimony to the next generation.
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::Cuz they're gonna need to form their own.
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::I think it's why President Nelson told
us to take hold of our testimony and,
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::you know, choose, choose for yourself
and your generation, how strong
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::your link is gonna be in the chain.
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::And that's kind of the message
I see in chapter three.
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::He warns about the destruction
that's gonna happen in the city,
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::that it's gonna be so deep that
they're gonna stumble over bodies.
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::Like that's, that's the level
that we're talking about.
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::The destruction when, when the Babylonians
come, is gonna be so hard that Niva will
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::be lost and it will be a bloody hard loss.
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::Um, and he talks about why.
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::So if you go through the verses,
he'll lay out a few things like that.
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::They were idle worshipers.
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::They turned to witchcraft and sorcery
to sacrifice to all kinds of issues.
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::One of the things that jumped out at me
though, is in verse seven, so he says at
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::the end of seven it says, who will bemoan
her once shall I see comforters for the.
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::Meaning once all this hard stuff
starts to happen, none of your
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::neighbors will come to the rescue
because you, like we said before, you,
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::they've treated everyone so viciously
that no one can come to their aid.
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::What's interesting to me about that
is I think it's a warning to me too,
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::you know how people learn many times
that the way the Lord often answers
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::prayers is through other people.
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::So if we are constantly trying to build
relationships with other people and
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::show love and kindness and help to our
neighbors and our family and our friends,
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::then that comes back to us, right?
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::There's people he can turn to to
say, Hey, go take care of Maria.
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::She's struggling because I've
created a relationship so it's
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::easy for them to come and serve me.
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::Like just this last time, so we were in
the hospital for Jason's fourth tumor
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::just last week, and there wasn't a
release society sign up that went out.
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::There wasn't any kind of formal help.
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::The Eckers Lee's campaign,
people just came.
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::You know, like my friend Gina just
showed up with, she sent me a text
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::from Costco and said, what do you need?
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::You know, like it's, that's how you
know what a Zion society feels like
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::when people just show up for each other.
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::But God can work with Gina because
we have this relationship where the
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::Ninevites are, is they've literally taken
advantage and abused everyone around them.
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::And therefore there's no one who he
can turn to and say, could you comfort?
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::There's no one left.
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::That I think is one of the most
haunting parts about Invos story,
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::that in their desire to conquer the
world, they're at the peak of this
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::hilltop and there's no one to turn to.
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::Um, and it was just a sweet reminder to
me to like, be part of Zion lift and, you
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::know, lift up the hands, the hang down and
do what you can cuz you need each other
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::and God needs to have people to work with.
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::So build relationships.
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::I just love that reminder.
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::But he talks about what's
happening with them.
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::He says, basically, art thou better.
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::This is around verse eight, he says,
Haven't you seen all the other wicked
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::idolatrous groups, all the ones of
the past, they all just get conquered.
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::You almost wanna picture that statue,
you know, that we were talking
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::about with Daniel and Chad Rec
MechE and a bengo where it was like
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::it had a head of a certain metal
and then a torso of another metal.
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::And he's like, all of those
are just gonna get toppled.
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::Haven't you seen how that's happened?
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::All of them end up toppled and so stop,
learn from the mistakes of the past.
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::And then he talks about
basically like, go ahead.
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::You know, like try to . It's almost
as if Naim or the Lord is saying like,
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::go ahead and try to defend yourselves.
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::Build up your strongholds.
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::Get as much water as you want.
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::Do whatever you think will help you.
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::None of it can last, because
remember the Lord is against Neva.
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::So he talked about that.
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::He says, basically you're gonna turn
to all those allies and those people.
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::Made wicked alliances with, I almost
picture this like Gad and Roberts style.
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::You know, like he's made some secret
combinations with other wicked
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::nations and they're all gonna flee.
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::They won't rise.
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::They want help.
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::It's just like we see with Satan
in the Book of Mormon, right?
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::He, he wraps people up in a flas in
court and drags them down to help.
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::There is no rescue in his character.
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::But what I thought was really
cool is reading these last two or
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::three verses in a contrast with
what we know about the savior.
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::So in 18, the shepherd's slumber.
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::So where we talk about Christ
as the good shepherd who never
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::slumbers and never sleeps.
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::This is the opposite, right?
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::This is what the adversary offers.
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::He sleeps through your
pain, through your struggle.
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::He sleeps.
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::Um, he doesn't gather.
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::When things get scattered, he doesn't
gather, but the Lord does, right?
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::So in the verse, it'll say,
your people are scattered on the
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::mountains and no man gather at.
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::In 19, there's no healing of the I bruise.
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::Thy wound is grievous and all that.
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::Hear about it, clap.
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::I think it makes you appreciate
the God that we worship.
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::He wants to be all these things.
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::And it's interesting to me that when we're
describing the adversary, or at least the
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::adversaries effects on people who have
turned against God, they're the exact
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::opposite of what we see in the Savior.
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::They cannot heal, they cannot
gather, and they cannot save.
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::I tell you, I feel like I could
handle almost any adversity if
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::I could just understand why.
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::You know, I believe the Lord can make
all things work together for my good.
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::I don't always understand
why he picks that way.
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::You know, there are times when Jason's
cancer has come back and I'm like, I feel
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::like I got it on the first three times.
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::Why?
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::Why is the cancer back again?
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::This is a very common question that all
of us have, whether yours is related
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::to cancer or some other adversity.
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::It's if we could understand the why,
I feel like you could endure it.
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::The second thing I always wanna know
is how long you know, I can endure
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::almost anything if I know it will
end, and I know roughly how long.
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::You know, even things like labor, I
feel like you kind of have a ballpark
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::idea after six kids how long it's
gonna last and so you can endure.
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::Right?
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::And I just.
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::That's basically Haba cook's question.
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::He's facing a certain kind of adversity
in the Babylonians, or he calls
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::'em the Caldeans cuz this is early
stages of the Babylonian Empire.
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::And they will eventually
become the Babylonians.
404
::But in this stage they're, they're
beginning and they're causing all kinds
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::of devastation to the children of Israel
or what's left of the children of Israel.
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::And he is struggling because his
people, although they're off course
407
::and not choosing the right, are not
nearly as wicked as the kds are.
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::And so he's saying to
the Lord, basically, why?
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::I know you're just, I
know you're everlasting.
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::Why are you letting these guys win?
411
::And one of the things that was so
insightful to me that I learned from the
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::spirit was, this is God's not a referee.
413
::We tend to see, or at least I think what
Haba Cook was seeing is he's saying,
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::here's the dues and here's the caldeans.
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::They're so much more wicked than we are.
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::And even though we're not doing
great , why do you let them win?
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::And he's seeing them as.
418
::Going against each other, like
a referee would see two teams.
419
::And what I think the Lord is trying to
teach hauck, at least what he taught
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::me, is that the Lord is in referee.
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::And this isn't a game against
another group of people.
422
::This is a game against the natural man.
423
::And what he's saying to Hauck is,
please remind the Jews that they
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::have light and they have knowledge,
and they are accountable for that.
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::That's the standard he's holding them to.
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::The same way he's gonna hold
the Babylonians to a standard
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::because of their light and their
knowledge, which is limited
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::compared to the children of Israel.
429
::So he's going to, they're not going
against each other, and he's not a
430
::referee out to make sure that the law
is enforced equally to both teams.
431
::What he's saying is, you're
focused on the wrong things.
432
::You need to focus on teaching the
children of Israel where they've gone
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::wrong, and stop worrying so much about
the ca, the Calians with Babylon.
434
::So that's the overall theme of one.
435
::But I love the wrestle that
he has to have to get there.
436
::So haka in these verses, especially in
chapter one, what sounds different about
437
::this book is that it's not so much a
story of what happens, it's a dialogue.
438
::So it sort of reminded me of job.
439
::You remember when Joe almost had
chats with the Lord , where he
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::was like, why is this happening
and have you forgotten about me?
441
::It's the same thing you feel
with Joseph in Liberty Jail,
442
::where he says, you know why?
443
::It's not so much that I think
Joseph wanted to get out of Liberty
444
::Jail, although I'm sure he did.
445
::It was about what was happening outside
of the jail, that all the saints were
446
::getting attacked and people were dying
and being raped, and all kinds of horrific
447
::things were happening to the Saints.
448
::And he was saying, why?
449
::Why do you let Wicked people attack?
450
::Why and how long is it gonna last?
451
::So if you go on the notes, you're
gonna find links to a bunch of d.
452
::Scriptures that I felt
taught this same lesson.
453
::A habitat does it in an interesting
way cuz he has to wrestle with the
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::Lord a little bit to understand and
it's not like he gets an answer and
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::all of a sudden things are okay.
456
::He gets a part of an answer and
then he asks to ask more questions.
457
::You know, it's almost like what you see
with NEI when he's in the Book of Mormon.
458
::He is trying to understand Lehigh's
dream and he gets a little bit
459
::more light and knowledge and then
asks more questions of the angel
460
::and says, okay, show me some more.
461
::And the angel says, okay, let's go.
462
::And that's kinda what I get a feel
from with Hauck, that he's, he's
463
::understanding things in layers.
464
::So you see in two, how
long will this go on?
465
::How long will I cry out and
have no one here in three?
466
::Why do you show this inequity to us?
467
::Why are you treating us this, this way?
468
::And four, he talks about,
therefore the law is slacked and
469
::judgment does never go forth.
470
::He's basically saying to the Lord
like, your punishments aren't fair.
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::You know, we are getting punished.
472
::Heavily and we're more
righteous than they are.
473
::That's not fair.
474
::It's not like you remember ha's a prophet.
475
::So I think he inherently
knows the character of God.
476
::He just doesn't understand, like we
don't, you know, he's seen through a glass
477
::darkly and he doesn't understand and he
just have to love the compassion of the
478
::Lord cuz he wants to help have a cook.
479
::Understand.
480
::So around five is where the Lord's answer
begins and he talks about that he's gonna
481
::do something wonderful among this group.
482
::So in in five it says, wonder
marvelously for I will work a work
483
::in your days, which you will not
believe though it be told you.
484
::He in the first couple verses have
Aick wondered if the Lord even could.
485
::And now he learns in this simple
answer that not only has the Lord heard
486
::him all this time, but he actually
already has an answer in place.
487
::In fact, it's in motion.
488
::That I think happens to me all the time
where I'm struggling cuz the Lord doesn't
489
::unfold all the revelation to me at once.
490
::You know, it's almost like a
great big blanket that he's only
491
::unfolding one square at a time.
492
::And then every now and then I, you
can like step back and be like,
493
::wait, I know there is a full blanket.
494
::Even though I can only see
a portion of it right now.
495
::I know there is, it's gonna continue
to unfold and I'm gonna understand and
496
::that's where I think have a cook is.
497
::So he talks about it, how there's the
Lord answers like in seven, that there
498
::is gonna be this great and terrible
judgment that will hit these people.
499
::It's not that they're
gonna bypass justice.
500
::There will be a judgment.
501
::He just doesn't, he isn't telling him
how long, he isn't telling him even why.
502
::He's just saying, trust me, I've got this.
503
::There's things in motion that you
can't understand and doesn't that just
504
::sound like a lot of the answers you
get where it's like, wait on the Lord,
505
::trust me, I've got things in motion.
506
::Um, and so he waits.
507
::In fact, I love Havoc Cook's Response.
508
::This is one of my favorite
chapters this week.
509
::So he basically says, I'm
not sure I understand this.
510
::You just have to love this.
511
::Cause I think this is what it's
like to be a disciple of Christ.
512
::It means you're going
to talk with the Lord.
513
::This is what a relationship is, right?
514
::So if I'm gonna have a relationship
with the Lord, I'm not gonna just
515
::take that partially unfolded answer
and say, okay, God, you let me
516
::know when you got more to say.
517
::I'm gonna be asking.
518
::I mean, some of the greatest revelations
in the history have ever happened
519
::because questions were asked and
questions upon questions were asked.
520
::So that's what he says in 12.
521
::Aren't thou not from everlasting?
522
::Oh Lord my God, mine.
523
::Holy one, we shall not die.
524
::Oh Lord has to ordained them
from judgment like he's saying.
525
::I know you are the same
yesterday, today, and forever.
526
::So if we do a certain thing
wrong, we get this consequence.
527
::How is it that they're doing the same
offense and they don't have a consequence?
528
::I don't see it.
529
::So he's asking the Lord, help
me to see, give me eyes to see.
530
::And then it peaks a little bit.
531
::In 13, he says, basically he
knows that God has pure eyes
532
::and can see things he can't see.
533
::But he says to them, can't.
534
::How is it that thou can't look Ony?
535
::Where for look a thou upon them that
deal treacherously and hold a thy
536
::tongue when the wicked devour at the
man that is more righteous than he.
537
::How is it God that you're gonna
hold your tongue when they
538
::consume us, when they abuse us?
539
::How is it that you're holding still?
540
::And so he asked the Lord this and he says,
basically, you're making us like fish.
541
::That there's nori rhyme or reason.
542
::There's no rule of law.
543
::That's what he knows God for is
that he is a God of justice and
544
::law and it doesn't seem like
they're playing by the same rules.
545
::So Hauck is wrestling and he wants
to know more and the answers come as
546
::he goes a little bit further down.
547
::So we look in 17, one of my favorite
questions is he says, shall they
548
::therefore empty their net and not
spare continually to slay the nation's?
549
::This reminded me of my kids
when they go trick or treat.
550
::So maybe your kids don't do this, but
Sam, you know, the older they get, they
551
::like will come home and they'll dump
out their pillowcase halfway through
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::their trick or treating so that they
can go back out and get even more candy.
553
::And there's just like this inherent
grieve and adjacent totally
554
::encourages this in our children,
555
::But you know, it's that idea that,
but with like, A horrific level.
556
::They're basically going out and consuming
and abusing everybody in their path.
557
::And they get to the point where
they like empty the net and then
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::go back out and get some more.
559
::And so that's what Haba
Cook is wrestling with.
560
::These are our wicked people.
561
::Why aren't they getting consequences?
562
::But the answer he gets is a partial
one, and it comes in chapter two.
563
::I think the whole reason that Haa
gets another unfolding of this
564
::revelation, he gets more information,
more light, more knowledge, is
565
::because of what happens in verse one.
566
::So at the end of chapter one, we
see all of his wrestling, right?
567
::He has questions for the Lord.
568
::He's even frustrated
at the Lord's choices.
569
::He doesn't understand he's got these,
you know, spiritual blinders that he's
570
::just struggling to wrap his head around
why the Lord would choose this plan.
571
::But what happens in one is he
says, but I'm gonna show up anyway.
572
::This is his.
573
::But if not moment that we talked about
with Shadrach Meek and a bed Migo,
574
::he's basically saying, I will stand.
575
::So if you look in verse one, I will stand
upon my watch and set me upon the tower.
576
::He's called to be a prophet and
he knows the character of God.
577
::And so in this moment of I don't
understand and there's so much uncertainty
578
::and how long Lord will this continue?
579
::He says, but I'm gonna stand
on my watch and I will show up.
580
::Oh, I loved that moment when I was reading
it, cuz I think this is what opens up
581
::another layer of revelation for Ock.
582
::I know this cuz it happens for me.
583
::You know, there are times when I don't
understand how long things are gonna go.
584
::I don't understand why they're so hard.
585
::I don't understand why he's trying
to teach me in this specific way.
586
::But I show up or I try to show up and
when I try to show up, like I remember I
587
::told you guys something about scripture
study that this happened with scripture,
588
::study with me when I was really struggling
for revelation about Jason and I
589
::couldn't get the answers I needed and
I just didn't know where else to turn.
590
::And the answer I got was, you
need to do family scripture study.
591
::And I was almost angry with that
answer cuz it didn't seem like it
592
::could solve any of my problems.
593
::And then as we were having prayer
at family scripture study, Jason
594
::wasn't even there like it was a mess.
595
::Scripture study didn't go great, but
it was in the prayer at the end of
596
::scripture study that the answer I needed
came and it came clearly and it was.
597
::Life saving, literally.
598
::Um, so yes, I've been in this moment.
599
::You probably have to where if you just
show up, the Lord will say, okay, Maria,
600
::you're ready for the next unfolding.
601
::Let me give you more.
602
::And so that's what happens here.
603
::Basically have aah
says, I'm gonna show up.
604
::And because he does, the Lord
says, all right, let's go.
605
::And so the next verse is, I need
you to get some paper and pens or
606
::tables or whatever he is writing on.
607
::And he says, I want you to
write everything I'm gonna
608
::say so that people can run.
609
::In fact, I loved this part of verse two.
610
::He says, you're gonna write it plain
on tables so that anyone can understand
611
::that he may run that, read it.
612
::That anybody who reads these
coming verses will be able to
613
::understand the will of God and move.
614
::This is faith in action.
615
::Right?
616
::He's saying, I want people to.
617
::I want people to get it.
618
::I want people to get the
urgency so that they can run.
619
::And what he lays out
for us is pretty clear.
620
::He says There will be an appointed time
when Justice will come to the Babylonians.
621
::I know you can't see
it right now, trust me.
622
::So three says, for the vision
is yet for an appointed time.
623
::But at the end it shall speak and not lie.
624
::Meaning there will be a point
when the Babylonians are conquered
625
::and this prophecy will be proven.
626
::Though it, Terry, wait for it.
627
::This piece I loved, I
highlighted that a lot.
628
::In fact, we'll talk about in
the object lessons as well.
629
::Um, there are lots of times when the
Lord is saying, Wait for it, Maria.
630
::I have something great coming.
631
::Wait for it.
632
::Stay on the path because
it will surely come.
633
::That's the next line of that verse.
634
::So though at Terry, wait for it because
it will surely come and it will not.
635
::Terry, everything is on the Lord's
timetable and it is in motion.
636
::, you know, like we talked about with the
gumball machine where the, when I picture
637
::a prayer, I picture, if I say a prayer
and I ask for deliverance or help, I
638
::picture that gumball starting down that
track and it's just gonna take a long
639
::time to get to the bottom sometimes.
640
::And sometimes it's different than
I expected it, but something comes
641
::and so you just have to wait for it.
642
::And so that's what he's teaching him.
643
::But it's not a, I'm gonna sit
passively and wait, it's four.
644
::It says you're gonna live by faith
and, oh, you should go on the notes.
645
::There's a lot of great quotes about
what it means to live by faith,
646
::how this is a principle of action.
647
::This is Haba Cook had to stand and
say, I'm gonna stay on my tower even
648
::though I don't understand all things.
649
::You know, n I had to say to the
angel, I don't understand all
650
::things, but here's what I do know.
651
::That's the same message.
652
::And so now, because he's made that
stand and because he's writing it
653
::down now, he writes down all the woes.
654
::So they call these the wo Oracles
because in like five different
655
::places in this chapter, he says the
word woe and then lays out what's
656
::gonna happen to the Babylonians and
why they've had issues with greed.
657
::They've had, it seems like the predominant
issue is they're taking advantage of the.
658
::It's kind of almost the flip side
of that lack of charity that we've
659
::been talking about, but on on
where they have no understanding,
660
::they're basically manipulating.
661
::It reminded me of, what's the guy,
the one my kids watch on YouTube?
662
::I can't think of his name,
but he's the Mark Grover.
663
::He's the one that does the glitter
bombs, you know, and so he, He
664
::sets up a trap basically for
people who are packaged thieves.
665
::And he does the same thing with like
these telemarketers in India who are
666
::taking advantage of the elderly scammers.
667
::Anyway, it's kind of that sort of vibe.
668
::He's saying there's a certain level of
evil that comes when you deliberately
669
::take advantage of the weak and the
vulnerable and you will have consequences.
670
::And that's what the woes are.
671
::He's warning all about that.
672
::And then he also has some
little promises woven in.
673
::So in 14 it says, for the earth shall
be filled with knowledge of the glory
674
::of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.
675
::And at first when I read that, I
was like, why is that shoved in
676
::the middle of all these woves?
677
::? I, it seemed like an odd like insertion
and it could be just happenstance.
678
::But what came to me as I was studying it
was I think this is the promise that all
679
::those why questions that we have, like why
did we need to have cancer a fourth time?
680
::Why?
681
::You know, like all the hard things
that happen, there will be a time when
682
::the earth is flooded with knowledge.
683
::And I'll know all the why's.
684
::I'll, I'll know all the answers to that.
685
::How long.
686
::Why did this have to take so long?
687
::Why?
688
::I will know all the, an
Jason will know the answers.
689
::My kids will know.
690
::The answers will know exactly why.
691
::Because the earth will be
flooded with knowledge.
692
::And this is not just wisdom of
the world, this is knowledge of
693
::God and in his plan for my family.
694
::And I think, you know, the further
into this process, the more I
695
::start to understand that why.
696
::But the more I also get comfortable
with the unknown, I don't know how long.
697
::I don't know why.
698
::And I get more and more comfortable
with it cuz I, I've come to
699
::trust the character of God.
700
::So I love that that piece is in there.
701
::There will be a time that I will
know why and that you will know why
702
::and it will flood the earth and that
will be a beautiful time to be alive.
703
::So I watch for those promises that are
kind of tucked into all these woes.
704
::Another one that happens is if you look
in, um, So after he's talked about their
705
::idle worship and their weak gods that
they make with their own hands, Tony
706
::says, but the Lord is in his holy temple.
707
::Let all the earth keep silence before him.
708
::He is a God who never
slumbers and never sleeps.
709
::And he sees all, I think the fact that
he mentions all these woes and all the
710
::wickedness that he's seen happen among
the Babylonians is something that must
711
::have been comforting to have a cook.
712
::Cause remember, he wondered
if the Lord wasn't seeing all
713
::their offenses the same way.
714
::If you have a referee that's not calling
things on the other team, and you're
715
::like, did you even see what they did?
716
::And what he's saying is,
oh yeah, I've got tapes.
717
::I can, I've seen all of it.
718
::In fact, there's a record kept in heaven.
719
::I know all their offenses
and all will be made.
720
::Right.
721
::That's the promise.
722
::When he says, everyone can keep
silence, he can see all things.
723
::That's the promise of.
724
::Chapter three in Havoc is actually a hymn.
725
::It's a song that was intended to be
sung and it's a hymn of praise, which
726
::is interesting cuz if you look at the
actual verses that we just read in
727
::two, you know that the Babylonians will
eventually come to an end, but you have no
728
::way of knowing when that's gonna happen.
729
::You know, A day to the
Lord is very flexible.
730
::So I feel like have a cook really
doesn't have any idea when this is
731
::gonna happen to the Babylonians.
732
::He also doesn't know how long the misery's
gonna last for his people or how long
733
::it's gonna be till they return and repent.
734
::Like he just, everything is still an
unknown to have a cook, but what he
735
::knows is you're in the Lord's hands.
736
::That's what he knows and that's what
brings about his hymn of praise.
737
::Here's what I loved about this.
738
::You guys remember when we were
studying Hannah and I told you
739
::that I got a sweet revelation when
I was studying Hannah years ago.
740
::About Jason and my worries because
she, when she's praying for a son,
741
::she goes to the temple and she just
gets the promise that a son will
742
::be born, that she will have a son.
743
::And it says that as she leaves
the temple, her countenance
744
::changes and she's no more sad.
745
::And what I love about that
is, like I told you guys, she
746
::doesn't, she's not pregnant yet.
747
::She couldn't have been pregnant
yet, but she chooses to rest on
748
::the promise and let that be her
light that lifts her and allows her
749
::to change her whole countenance.
750
::That's basically what
happens with Ha Cook.
751
::He doesn't know when this is gonna end or
how it's gonna end or when it's gonna end.
752
::He just knows that God's hands are all
over this work and so he can rejoice even
753
::though his circumstances haven't changed.
754
::Isn't that exactly what President
Nelson has been asking us to do?
755
::To stop focusing on our
circumstances, to find our joy and I.
756
::Get the focus of our lives, right?
757
::Because if the focus of our life is
right, then you can actually have joy.
758
::I mean, have a cook proves it.
759
::He has a whole hymn of rejoicing that
he gives us because he now knows he's
760
::in God's hands and it's gonna be okay.
761
::Not because he knows how or when,
but because he knows the character
762
::of God and he knows I'm his son
and he will take care of me.
763
::He will take care of this people.
764
::So he sings this song of praise and
I just love the way it plays out.
765
::He basically says to the
Lord, revive th I work.
766
::And then he goes back and talks
about some of the miracles that
767
::the Lord has done in the past.
768
::So he's, he's not shying away.
769
::Remember, this is still
an engaged conversation.
770
::Doesn't have the answers yet.
771
::So he's still kind of, instead of
wrestling with the Lord, he's saying
772
::like, Hey, I'm just gonna keep praying
. You know, I still pray for miracles
773
::even though I'm okay with whatever
the Lord decides for our family.
774
::But I still pray for miracles every day.
775
::That's kind of what happens here, is where
he's saying like, please come back to us.
776
::You know, come back and
remember who you are to us.
777
::And you know, it's this.
778
::And then he goes through some of
the miracles that the Lord has given
779
::the children of Israel in the past.
780
::And I just thought there was a lovely
reminder there that my prayers should
781
::be, I shouldn't shy away from asking
for the help that I want and need.
782
::But I also should rejoice in the many
evidences I have in my life of God's hand.
783
::Because when you take time to remember
those spiritual stones, I think that's
784
::what Elder Anderson called them.
785
::He called them these, those spiritual
memories that you preserve are
786
::like these glowing stones that
can hold you in dark spaces.
787
::And that's what basically
I think Haba Cook's doing.
788
::He's pulling out all these stones
of joyful memories when the Lord has
789
::delivered them and saying, I remember this
one and I remember this one, and so I know
790
::you'll be here for us when we need you.
791
::I just thought it was a beautiful
example of choosing faith, choosing
792
::hope despite dark circumstances.
793
::And so he says basically by the
end of the chapter, although the
794
::fig tree shall not blossom and
neither fruit beyond the vines, like
795
::everything's gonna go, I get it.
796
::There's gonna be famine and destruction
and it's gonna be really bad.
797
::All these things are gonna happen and
then 18, yet I will rejoice in the Lord.
798
::I will joy in the God of my.
799
::I love the way he even says that
it's not that he will have joy.
800
::He's saying I will.
801
::Joy.
802
::It's like an action . I
don't know what that means.
803
::I don't know what it looks like, but it
is a, he says, I will joy because of.
804
::Who you are.
805
::It's the same thing that Joe
eventually got to, right?
806
::He says, though, though he
slay me, I will trust in him.
807
::It's the same message.
808
::He says, uh, it's gonna get
really bad and I'm okay.
809
::I will rejoice in God.
810
::And then in 19, the Lord God is
my strength and he will make my
811
::feet like he's feet, and he will
make me to walk upon high places.
812
::This is such a great visual.
813
::I learned this from Michael Wilcox.
814
::I told you guys, he's one of my favorite
teachers and he has a whole book, kind
815
::of based on this metaphor here, where
he's, he talks about these goats, we're
816
::gonna talk about the object lesson, but
these are these, you know, Nubian goats
817
::that are in Israel and they can climb.
818
::You've probably seen them, like on the
Nature Channel, they're able to climb
819
::on the tiniest ledges and stand there.
820
::You know, they can like jump from
one teen tiny ledge to the other.
821
::Even the big males that have these
huge horns, like picture lokey,
822
::like that kind of horns and they
are able to balance because of
823
::the way their feet are designed.
824
::What I loved about this is I was just
reading in the Book of Mormon about
825
::Nefi and his bow just this morning
actually, and I was noting the idea of.
826
::When Nephi, when his bow breaks,
the steel bow breaks, he makes a
827
::wooden bow and he prays to the Lord.
828
::First he goes to Lehigh and he,
he wants to know where to hunt.
829
::And the Lord doesn't necessarily
make him a new steel bow.
830
::What he says is, let me show
you a place that you can hunt.
831
::In fact, it's a place that you can
hunt successfully with a wooden bow.
832
::Um, and, and I love that Nephi takes
the wooden bow and a sling just
833
::in case, because I think that's
what we're supposed to do, right?
834
::That's being anxiously
engaged in a good cause.
835
::Like, okay, Lord, bless me as much as you
can, and I'm gonna do everything I can.
836
::And between us, there's food, right?
837
::He goes out and he's successful in
his hunt and it saves his people.
838
::And that's kind of what he's saying
here, this idea of heins feet,
839
::it's, he's not saying, make, make
the cliffs wider so that I can
840
::easily get from one to the other.
841
::Change my circumstances.
842
::Lord, what he's saying is change.
843
::Give me feet that can balance on the
smallest sliver of an edge and hold.
844
::You know, when you look at the,
these animals, they actually
845
::have feet that like separate out.
846
::You'll see this in the object lessons
and they have grip on the inside
847
::that's almost rubbery so that they
can hold the edges of these cliffs.
848
::And that's what ick is saying.
849
::He's saying, I'm gonna have moments
of uncertainty and doubt and
850
::where my site is super limited.
851
::Give me H feet.
852
::I don't need you to change the cliffs.
853
::I don't need you to change the world
around me or any of my circumstances.
854
::Give me the ability to stand on those
tiny little cliffs and feel sure footed.
855
::When Michael Wilcox teaches about
this, he talks about with testimony.
856
::Marie says, this is
what we should ask for.
857
::There is gonna be times when
you're not gonna know all things.
858
::All of us are in there right now,
but if you'll ask for H Feet for the
859
::ability to stand in this small sliver
of what you do know to be true or what
860
::you do believe is good, he can give
you the ability to balance and to hold
861
::there until a nucl cliff opens up so
that you can leap a little further.
862
::Ah, don't I just love that piece of it.
863
::Go in the notes and you
can read more about it.
864
::But I loved have a cook this.
865
::Where have a Cook's message is
one of wait on the Lord patience.
866
::You know, it's just this kind
of soft, gentle be still.
867
::I know that I'm, God
Zephaniah is much more.
868
::Choose you this day.
869
::It is your time is running out.
870
::That space to repent is running
out and you need to act fast.
871
::And so his message is different.
872
::And what's interesting
to me is the timing.
873
::So he's someone that is in
the reign of King Josiah.
874
::So if you remember way back when, I
think it was in Second Kings, we talked
875
::about Heay, how he was this great
king of Jerusalem and he built the
876
::tunnel and all that cool stuff, right?
877
::And then there's two generations
that come after him that fall apart.
878
::And then his great-grandson, Josiah comes
and when he comes into power, he has
879
::this religious reform and this is when
they go and they try and rebuild the
880
::temple and they find that lost scroll.
881
::And it's got that Indiana Jones vibe
that that's where we are in time.
882
::We just don't know where.
883
::Zephaniah lands in there.
884
::Most scholars I read thought
that he must come right at the
885
::beginning of Josiah's reign.
886
::In fact, maybe ze and I's teachings are
what inspired Josiah to be a better king
887
::than his father and his grandfather were.
888
::So, I don't know, nobody knows exactly,
but sometime in the reign of King,
889
::Josiah Ze and I comes to teach the
people, and his message is clear.
890
::It's the day of the Lord is coming
fast and you need to change.
891
::And he warns about what
they're doing wrong.
892
::So he talks about how there's
gonna be wickedness in the land
893
::and the Lord's gonna cut them off.
894
::This promised land that they
love is not gonna last forever.
895
::And we know that from studying the history
we've got so far in the Old Testament,
896
::that even though King Josiah does a great
job and tries to reform things, it doesn't
897
::last, they fall back into idle worship
and sell off the gold of the temple,
898
::and things go downhill pretty fast.
899
::So he talked about how he's gonna
stretch out his hand to Judah.
900
::Remember he's, he's not gonna
be able to hold them forever.
901
::It's interesting what you see in six,
he says, and them that are turned back
902
::from the Lord and those that have not
sought the Lord nor inquired for him.
903
::I thought one of the themes of this, well
ze and I totally, but specifically this
904
::chapter, is this warning about apathy.
905
::It is the same thing we saw
with the brazen serpent, right?
906
::It's there is salvation and there is
hope and you won't even look at it.
907
::You won't even take the
time to consider it.
908
::I don't, you know, we all have times
like this where we fall into apathy.
909
::In fact, I read a, what was it?
910
::It was a commencement address at BYU
where he was talking about that somebody
911
::had accused his generation cuz he
was like a valedictorian or whatever.
912
::So he was young and he was talking
about one of his professors had
913
::basically accused his generation
of being passionate for apathy.
914
::And I thought that was such an
interesting way to phrase that.
915
::Cuz you can get.
916
::Passionate for this idea of
there's no right, there's no
917
::wrong, there's no nothing.
918
::I, I don't have to make a choice
and I don't have to engage.
919
::And so his message was one of
like, let's go, let's catch fire.
920
::Let's be better than
what people expect of us.
921
::And I think that's what Ze and I
is trying to teach them as well.
922
::There is risk in apathy.
923
::One of the ways he talks about the
apathy is this strange apparel verse.
924
::So if you look in seven and eight, it
talks about how in the end of days,
925
::cuz all of this is sort of a type for
what will happen at the end of time
926
::and what's happening with children
of Israel is they're turning away
927
::from their, what makes them peculiar.
928
::And you know, that covenant that
makes them a peculiar people
929
::they, they've turned away from.
930
::And one of the ways that
shows up is in apparel.
931
::Here's what was interesting.
932
::So if you go on seven and eight,
it talks about how there will be a
933
::great feast and that the king will
have given them apparel and they will
934
::come in strange clothing instead.
935
::I loved this from what we just learned
with Elder Redner at conference,
936
::where he talked about this same idea
in the New Testament, that parable
937
::from the savior about a king who
invites people to change their tunics
938
::so that they can come to the feast.
939
::And that those who choose not to
basically are rebellious against God.
940
::They're not just, they think
they're apathetic, but they're not.
941
::They're rebelling against.
942
::And so he, El Brard talked about
how many are called and fewer
943
::chosen, and why are they not chosen?
944
::You know, we know how
the scriptures play out.
945
::It's because they get their eyes
fixated on the things of the world.
946
::And so you see that same morning here
from Ze and I where he's saying this
947
::strange apparel isn't going to help you.
948
::You are designed to be distinct
and different, and you are choosing
949
::something else, and you like to think
that that's neutral ground the same.
950
::You know, a lot of us tend to
think that if we step away from the
951
::gospel, we're on neutral ground.
952
::And what we've learned over and over
again is there is no neutral that
953
::you're either on the Lord's side or not.
954
::. There, there's no middle.
955
::And so Zep and I is
warning them about that.
956
::So he says it an interesting way in 12, he
says, and it'll come to pass at that time
957
::that I will search Jerusalem with candles,
meaning he's gonna hope to find as much
958
::goodness as he possibly can when the
Lord goes out to judge and he'll punish
959
::them that are settled on their leaves.
960
::That phrase, we studied this
before, but it just means like that
961
::sediment that sits at the bottom of
a cup or a vase of juice or wine.
962
::In this case, it's what sits.
963
::You know, like if I've been latent in my
gospel study or my testimony building too
964
::long, then I, I start to have sediment
that just sits and I don't, you know,
965
::what he's saying is like that apathetic.
966
::I'm not working against the church,
but I'm also not getting closer to God.
967
::That apathy is what has to be destroyed.
968
::We actually have to be engaged in
the gospel of Jesus Christ, not
969
::because he has some like set ro.
970
::Bar that we're supposed to be jumping.
971
::But because the only way we can come to be
like Christ is if we are doing the work.
972
::Remember what we've been setting the last
few weeks, where he basically says, you're
973
::gonna come to know me by serving the poor.
974
::You're gonna come to know me
by living up to your covenants,
975
::by honoring all those things.
976
::That's how you become like me.
977
::So you can't be apathetic.
978
::It doesn't work in the Lord's gospel.
979
::So he's warning about that those,
that in the end of 12 it says that
980
::they, the Lord will not do good.
981
::Neither will he do evil.
982
::That's what they say.
983
::God's not good and he is not bad.
984
::I'm just, I'm not gonna make an opinion.
985
::Everybody can do their own thing.
986
::That's a very tempting strategy that
comes straight from the adversary.
987
::So Steph and I is warning us about it.
988
::Then he talks about how they're gonna
build houses, but they can't inhabit them.
989
::I thought this was interesting, cuz
being apathetic doesn't mean you're lazy.
990
::It doesn't mean you're not doing anything.
991
::It means you are actively
doing other things.
992
::You're busy in the thick of
thin things, you know, that's
993
::what he's warning them about.
994
::And I think all of us can
take care of that, right?
995
::There's, there's things that we
could do better in all of our lives.
996
::So watch for that one.
997
::In 13, 14, it goes even a little stronger.
998
::He says, the great day the Lord is near.
999
::I thought this was interesting cause
a lot of his message in FNI is about
1000
::the great day of Lord being near.
1001
::But it's weird, right?
1002
::Because this was thousands of years
ago and day of Lord still isn't here.
1003
::So how can the day of the Lord
be near if he still isn't here?
1004
::And then I had to read the Book
of Mormon to get the answer.
1005
::In Alma 34, we learned that this life
is the time to prepare, to meet God.
1006
::So I think for me, when I was reading
these verses about the day of Lord being
1007
::near, I think that's what it means.
1008
::It means we each have this
limited lifespan and we have no
1009
::idea how long it's gonna last.
1010
::And then there is a time of where
that space, that mortal space
1011
::that we're granted to repent.
1012
::Is done.
1013
::I don't know how it shakes
out in the next life.
1014
::All I know is from what the
prophets have taught, it is much
1015
::harder to repent in that life.
1016
::Even in the last conference
we heard about that.
1017
::So I think this is the day
to prepare to meet God.
1018
::That's why the day of the
Lord is near, even though it's
1019
::still thousands of years away.
1020
::In fact, I don't know how long it's gonna
be until the day of the Lord actually
1021
::comes, but ze and I knew that for every
person standing in his hearing the
1022
::day was near cuz their life inspect.
1023
::Life expectancy is just as
short as ours, if not shorter.
1024
::So the day's near.
1025
::So he warns in the last couple
verses he warns about if you
1026
::choose not to follow the light,
you'll walk around in blindness.
1027
::Even though when the Lord comes,
the world will be full of light.
1028
::I mean, have you ever wondered like
at the end of time when the Lord
1029
::comes again, how anybody could.
1030
::Follow.
1031
::You know, if you see the Lord, how
could you not all of a sudden convert?
1032
::And I think there's a couple reasons why
that doesn't work out, but I think a big
1033
::one is what we learned in the doctrine
covenants about how darkness comprehend.
1034
::Its not the light, it doesn't see it,
it doesn't recognize it, it doesn't,
1035
::it isn't warm to those who won't see.
1036
::And so he warns you'll be walking
around in blindness and their, none of
1037
::your gold or your silver or your power
that you think you have can save you.
1038
::You need to have the Lord in the margins.
1039
::By chapter two, I have choosy this day.
1040
::That's, that's the big message
of ze and I, at least in those
1041
::first three verses, cuz he's still
talking to the children of Israel.
1042
::And I sometimes wonder if maybe ze and I.
1043
::If, if these prophets were able to read
each other's writings, cuz if he could
1044
::have read about what happened in Niva
over a hundred years ago, he may have
1045
::had hope that despite the fact that the
children of Israel are way off course and
1046
::deserving of all kinds of harsh justice,
there's proof and evidence that the Lord
1047
::is merciful and they just need to turn.
1048
::So he asked them, gather yourselves
together before things happen.
1049
::In fact, in two that you see that
word before, many times I highlighted
1050
::all of them before the anger
comes before the Lord judges you.
1051
::You've got this, a tiny fraction of
space left in this window of mercy.
1052
::Take advantage of it.
1053
::So in three he says, how Seek the
Lord, seek E, the Lord, all unique
1054
::of the earth, which have rot, his
judgments, seek righteousness, seek
1055
::meekness that it may be that you
may be hid in the day of the Lord's.
1056
::It's the same promise we see in the New
Testament that no matter how far off
1057
::course they are, if they turn to the Lord
in that pivotal moment, he can forgive and
1058
::he can say, go thou way and say no more.
1059
::You are your hid from his
anger when your heart turns.
1060
::So that's what he's trying
to get them to understand.
1061
::It just reminds me of, I think I said
this once before, but Elder Maxwell
1062
::talked about if you can, this isn't a
quote, this is just a summary, but he
1063
::says like if you think that there's a
possibility that there will be a day
1064
::when every knee shall bow and every
tongue confess, then why not today?
1065
::Like even if there's a fraction of you
that has just a desire to believe that
1066
::that's possible, then change change today.
1067
::Cuz you just don't know when the
day of the Lord will come for you.
1068
::So I just, that's what I felt
as I was reading these verses.
1069
::I also love the promise that he's the
author and finisher of your faith.
1070
::That's what Z and I is trying to teach
them, like he will make you a new path.
1071
::Niva a hundred years ago is proof
of this, that they were ripe for
1072
::destruction and had a profit that was
coming to say in 40 days it's done.
1073
::And because of their repentance,
a whole new path opened up and
1074
::that's what he is trying to help
them understand here as well.
1075
::I just think it's the same thing we see.
1076
::If you look in DNC 88, what first is it?
1077
::It's in my margins.
1078
::32 dnc.
1079
::88.
1080
::32.
1081
::This is where the revelation is
basically saying like, I will give you
1082
::as much as you are willing to receive.
1083
::I think that's the promise here as well.
1084
::He's saying All the goodness, all
the mercy, all the forgiveness
1085
::I can offer, I will give.
1086
::Whatever you're willing to receive.
1087
::It's, it's us that gets in the way.
1088
::It's not the Lord's hand that
isn't extended far enough.
1089
::So that's a message or two.
1090
::The rest of chapter two is focused
on the woes and the warnings
1091
::to all the surrounding nations.
1092
::Um, and they're pretty strong, cuz
remember this is a type and shadow
1093
::for the days, at the end of days when
all wickedness will be destroyed.
1094
::And this is kind of like a, a
microcosm of that happening now.
1095
::So there's, he's talking about the
destruction that will happen to all those
1096
::surrounding areas before Zion can come.
1097
::After talking to all those other nations
and warning them, Seth and I goes
1098
::right back to the heart of things by
talking to those in Jerusalem saying
1099
::like, you're running outta time.
1100
::And so you'll see that he talks about
how the Lord was in their midst.
1101
::You know, old Testament terms,
the word midst doesn't just
1102
::mean like somewhere around.
1103
::It means in the heart of he's right
there in the middle and you've missed it.
1104
::You know, it's like if you've ever
heard somebody talk about a Black
1105
::Friday sale and the thing they
bought was the thing you need to buy,
1106
::and you're like, ah, I missed it.
1107
::That's what he's saying to the, the
children of Israel, that there's
1108
::gonna be some point in time when
you realize how close the Lord
1109
::was to you and you missed it.
1110
::Um, and that is a, that is
a warning all in of itself.
1111
::When you a little further, he does
this interesting teaching strategy.
1112
::I've actually found this has been
really helpful to me as I've been
1113
::talking to family members and friends
who are struggling with their faith
1114
::or who have lost it entirely, that I
found that it doesn't help me very much
1115
::to combat their points of doctrinal.
1116
::Frustration.
1117
::What really seems to make any kind of
sway is just to build up what is good.
1118
::You know, I read this from a prophet
once where he talked about our job when
1119
::we're doing missionary work is not to
tear down the houses of other people.
1120
::I can't remember which profit this was.
1121
::I'll see if I can find out.
1122
::I'll put it in the notes.
1123
::But our job is not to tear down
the houses of other belief systems.
1124
::Our job is just to build next door,
this beautiful goodness, and eventually
1125
::they're gonna basically kind of walk
over and say, tell me more about
1126
::this house . You know, the same way I
might walk over to my neighbors and be
1127
::like, I really like your garage doors.
1128
::Where did you get those?
1129
::That's the same kind of idea.
1130
::He's saying, build up what's good.
1131
::So when I'm talking to friends
and family, I'm trying hard.
1132
::In fact, just this week I, I
remembered this as I was studying Z
1133
::and I, that there's a conversation
I could have done better , where
1134
::I need to just teach what's good.
1135
::So when friends or family have questions
or frustrations, Don't worry so much
1136
::about the fine points of doctrine.
1137
::Just talk about what's good, what is
good in the gospel of Jesus Christ.
1138
::What hope do you have in it?
1139
::Why do you turn to it over and over and
over again in times of struggle and trial?
1140
::Because that's what Zep and I is doing.
1141
::He talks about Zion.
1142
::Instead of focusing on all the things
they're doing wrong, he builds up
1143
::this beautiful mansion of Zion and
says, look how good it will be.
1144
::So he talks about pure language that will
come, that they'll all be united again.
1145
::That there will be offerings, that
there will be no more wickedness,
1146
::no more, you know, no more great
and spacious building people whining
1147
::at you and making you feel small.
1148
::All that's gonna go away.
1149
::There's no more evil, no more warfarin,
no more bloodshed, all these promises.
1150
::There's no more lying, no more deceit.
1151
::And then when you have this beautiful
goodness built, the result, You'll sing
1152
::like when you're a part of this, when
you belong in that neighborhood, this
1153
::built that's built in this beautiful
Zion type way, you'll sing out.
1154
::So that's what you see in 14.
1155
::Seeing oh, daughter of Zion.
1156
::Be glad and rejoice with all I heart.
1157
::They're supposed to rejoice
that this can happen.
1158
::Remember, this is another Hannah type.
1159
::Take joy in this moment, even
though you're not experiencing
1160
::the circumstances yet.
1161
::Take joy that this can and will happen.
1162
::So he talks about what will come.
1163
::So the Lord will take
away your judgements.
1164
::He will invite you back home.
1165
::So that's in 15.
1166
::He cast out that enemy.
1167
::He has taken away th judgments.
1168
::He's in the midst of the, in 16.
1169
::He tells you to fear thou not.
1170
::And let not your hands be slack.
1171
::Don't get apathetic.
1172
::You know, we've already
been warned about that.
1173
::You gotta be anxiously
engaged in this work.
1174
::In 17, and this is one of my favorites,
he says the Lord, that God in the
1175
::midst of the is mighty, he will save.
1176
::He will rejoice over the with joy.
1177
::He will rest in his love and he
will joy over the with singing.
1178
::I love this cuz often we talk about how
we'll feel when we have the savior in
1179
::the midst of us that we'll feel joy.
1180
::But what he teaches in this verse
is that the savior feels joy too.
1181
::That he loves you and he wants you home.
1182
::It's when a time out for woman, I
talk about those missionary mom hugs.
1183
::You know, like you build that up
in your head and then you finally
1184
::get to that moment when you can
have them back in your arms.
1185
::That's, that's what I think
the Lord is experiencing.
1186
::It is the profound joy of, there's
no more separation between us.
1187
::I'm right here in the midst, and that
doesn't mean I'm nearby hovering.
1188
::It means I'm right at the
heart of you and I'm here and
1189
::there's no one to separate us.
1190
::Again, that's the promise of
the second coming, that there
1191
::will be no more separation.
1192
::The Lord will be among us.
1193
::And that doesn't mean around us.
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::It means in.
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::Near us and we can rest on that
promise and he can take joy in it.
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::So I love what he comes from that he says
in 18 I'll gather them that are sorrowful.
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::In 19, I will undo all that afflict
and I will save her that halted.
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::It is a promise of whatever damage
has been done, whatever breaches have
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::occurred, he will repair the breach.
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::He will undo.
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::I don't think it means
you'll forget all the hard.
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::I think part of the reason we'll become
like him is cuz we've been through the
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::hard, what he promises is that he will
undo and heal what needs to be healed.
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::There's an ultimate promise there that all
will be restored and that's what he sees.
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::You'll, those that have been driven
out will be brought back home.
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::And then in 20, it kinda hits
this pinnacle point where he
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::says, I will make you a name and
a praise among all people of the.
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::There is dignity and belonging
in understanding that you have
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::a name and a place with him.
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::That's the promise of the gospel
of Jesus Christ, that all of us
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::who take his name upon us, who are
willing to live the covenants as
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::imperfectly as we do, that we belong.
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::That's the big banner message of heaven.
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::You belong here.
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::This is your home, this mortal experience,
you are just traveling through.
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::You belong at home.
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::And I think when you do your best through
the covenants and to repent when you
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::need it, that's how you'll feel when
you get there, that you belong and
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::everybody else who's there does too.
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::And I, I look forward with
a lot of hope for that day.
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::.
Welcome back you guys.
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::This is the creative side of
week 39, and I've got some fun
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::object lessons to help you.
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::Let these beautiful verses just
sink in a little deeper into
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::your kids' hearts and minds.
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::The first one is based on what we read
in Havoc Cook and this understanding that
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::though it's gonna take some time, if you
wait for it, the Lord's answers will come.
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::I love Ha Cook's example to me.
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::revelation that unfolds slowly.
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::And the way I wanna teach that
is creating this little roller.
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::So we're gonna actually
create a magic trick of sorts.
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::This is one of those moments where
as a parent or a teacher, you get
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::to do something that your kids will
be like, wait, how did that work,
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::Because you're gonna see this roller
roll forward and then out of nowhere it
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::starts to roll back and it's so cool.
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::So this one, you just need the
basic supplies of an oatmeal
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::container, some rubber bands.
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::The printable of course, and.
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::The few paperclips to
hold things all together.
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::The trick to this one is in the weight.
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::So for the weight on this one,
you just need a heavy ish battery,
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::like a nine volt or a size C.
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::If you don't have either of those
on hand, you could also do like
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::a few double A's kind of bundled
together and that would do the trick.
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::That's your first one.
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::The second one is all about ivex.
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::So if you haven't read in the insights,
I talk about something I learned
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::from Michael Wilcox about the iex.
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::It's this cool goat that lives
in the GD and wilderness that.
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::Catch on the tiniest ledges and work its
way up a mountain or down a mountain.
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::But since this is multimedia week,
rather than having you act this
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::out or make a craft, we're gonna
actually just go online and watch it.
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::So I give you some links in the notes of
Cool IEX videos, and I'll walk you through
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::how to apply those to these scriptures.
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::But you're gonna learn a lot about
this really cool animal and why it has
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::some big spiritual application for.
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::Okay, your third one.
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::It's Christmas time you guys, so you
should prepare yourself to make a few
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::Christmasy things in the coming weeks.
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::One of the ones I really wanted to
focus on this week was that verse
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::at the end of Zephaniah, where he
talks about how the Lord feels joy.
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::I think one of the reasons we sing.
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::Joy to the world.
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::The Lord has come is because
he feels joy, and we feel joy
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::that this time is finally here.
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::So I wanted some way to capture
that and put it on my tree.
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::So that's what we've created.
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::I designed these little printable
ornaments that are kind of 3D
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::globe ish, that have the message
of joy to the world, and also that
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::beautiful verse from Zephaniah.
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::But my intent with these is
not just to make a pretty
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::thing that hangs on your tree.
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::My hope is that you'll go into, I'll walk
you through this in the object lessons,
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::but that you'll be able to actually
change some things about your holiday
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::season to simplify and feel more joy.
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::So I'm gonna walk you through some
prophetic guidance about how to pull
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::that off and then give you the printable
tools to make those goals a reality.
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::That's it for week 49, you guys.
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::Oh, we're getting so close to the end of
the Old Testament, but I just want you to
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::be rest assured we are gonna keep things
rolling into the new I'm kind of excited
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::to just go deep into the New Testament
also, because you guys, we've spent
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::the last three years studying about the
Savior in so many other books of scripture
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::that now to have this culminating
year where we study is actual mortal.
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::I just can't wait for it.
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::Like I really can't wait.
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::So hopefully a bunch of you will
come along for the ride with us.
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::If you already have an annual subscription
or even a monthly subscription, it will
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::just keep rolling as it always has done,
um, through, through the next year.
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::But obviously if you want to extend it
or invite friends to come and join us.
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::I promise it will be a year
where we come onto Christ.
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::My focus will be heavily on how do
we come to him, how do we learn from
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::his stories, how do we help those
stories, help our kids and our classes?
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::And I think it's gonna
be a really good year.
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::So I hope you join us.
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::Um, as always, if you have questions
about this week's study, You're welcome to
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::post a question on the discussion boards.
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::If you want to chat with me, you
can join me on Instagram live.
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::That's Monday at 10:00 AM Mountain Time.
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::I'll take a half an hour to talk
through some of the insights I
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::missed, and then also give you a
heads up on the object lessons so
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::you know what supplies you need.
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::But big things are coming you guys.
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::I hope you.