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-->:to women in business podcast that features stories,
-->:marketing, news, and real life experiences from fun
-->:and friendly hosts. Jen McFarland and Shelley Carney join
-->:us as we dive into the details so you can slay marketing,
-->:overwhelm streamline processes and amplify your impact.
-->:You'll learn strategy and tactics, leadership skills,
-->:and practical advice from successful women entrepreneurs to
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-->:Welcome to Women Conquer business. I'm Jen McFarland, joined by Shelley Carney,
-->:and this week we are talking about spring cleaning your small business
-->:in four easy steps. And if you are a longtime listener of this show,
-->:you will know that there was an episode in the wayback machine of
-->:spring clean your business and avoid project fatigue.
-->:That one was more about how to manage all of the projects
-->:that you have going on in your business and picking and choosing and tidying
-->:up around that. This one is more about looking at some different things within your
-->:business to help you clear the clutter so that you can be cleaning
-->:your business just like you probably are going around maybe with a feather
-->:duster or something like that right now and cleaning up your house.
-->:So we want to clean the business house. Hi, Shelley.
-->:I'm doing pretty well this week. I did two podcast interviews.
-->:Let's talk about what's going on in my business,
-->:in my life. What else is going on? My mom is improving. She's still in
-->:the hospital, but she's getting better and they're
-->:starting physical therapy with her this week, so that's going
-->:on. My husband is halfway through his cancer treatment, so that's going well.
-->:We have all kinds of medical issues in our lives right now. Yesterday on
-->:our show, Toby and I talked about our new feature
-->:coming up. We're going to do Saturday night conversations and
-->:it's going to be an open conversation where people can show up and just
-->:talk about whatever in the chat room with us. Toby and I will
-->:be having a conversation to spark more conversations,
-->:so we're looking forward to starting that tomorrow.
-->:Saturday night. It's only Thursday. It's not Friday. Thursday.
-->:Yeah. That's excellent. I think that we should acknowledge that
-->:we weren't on last week. That was for multiple reasons.
-->:I am also having some health issues and
-->:the concussion has turned into a bigger deal than I
-->:thought. That's the thing. It's so important when you have a small business to
-->:take care of yourself. I can honestly say that my roller skating career
-->:is now. It was an Olympic endeavor, so it's
-->:not like I was a pro. But it has made
-->:it very difficult for me to work with clients and having the
-->:ring light on and video and things like that, it's been a challenge, so I
-->:also didn't feel up to it. Shelley had a lot of stuff going on and
-->:so we took a break. I want to just acknowledge that we
-->:did that and we're back. Also, for you who
-->:are out there watching or listening, it's okay to take those breaks when you're not
-->:feeling super great. That's right,
-->:of course, in typical gen style, because it's like I have to do all
-->:of the things. I do have an updated website, and I'm
-->:very excited about it. I'm still putting on a lot of the finishing touches on
-->:it. That's not really an official launch of the new website, but I'm
-->:excited because I was telling Shelley before the show, I feel like it finally puts
-->:all of this content I've been creating for the last five years in a place
-->:where it's a little bit easier to navigate and it's
-->:easier to find out about me. It's got a little bit more information.
-->:It's got more of my personality in it with things like
-->:some of the different emojis and stuff like that. So you can go there.
-->:It is lightning fast, and it really shows off
-->:the podcast episodes a lot better. So if you go to womenconkerbiz.com,
-->:I also included some of my favorite tools. People are always asking me what software
-->:I use, so there is just a lot in there, and I'm hoping it's
-->:easier for people who find it or who have enjoyed
-->:reading the content in the past for you to engage with it. Very excited
-->:about that. The other thing that I'm really excited about, that probably nobody
-->:else is that today is opening day.
-->:It is Major League Baseball opening day. I am a huge
-->:baseball fan. When I lived in Arizona, my husband and I
-->:would go to spring training games. We went to all kinds of Arizona Diamondbacks
-->:games. I'm a lifelong Mariners fan, which means I have suffered and
-->:never seen them even go to the World Series in their entire existence.
-->:I'm excited. Tomorrow we're having our baseball party with our
-->:friends, Anna Robert, which is really awesome. So happy
-->:New Year to all of you baseball fans out there.
-->:This is the day I celebrate because the Mariners
-->:are in first place. My husband celebrates because the Orioles are in first place.
-->:And typically this is the only day they're in first place.
-->:Everybody's in first place, because there have been no
-->:games yet. Breaking news. What you got, Shelley? Breaking news.
-->:You know what? Toby changed
-->:the board on here, so I don't have my breaking news noise.
-->:It's fine. We're lucky to be here today.
-->:I gave you the DJ airhorn, and that was as much as I could.
-->:Breaking news.
-->:TADA. We have a new book out this week called Livecast
-->:Life, the content Creator Lifestyle that Toby
-->:and I put together. And you can see me and Toby on the COVID And
-->:there's Toby now. Wonderful,
-->:wonderful change to my music on this
-->:site. So this came out on Amazon this week.
-->:It's 1718 chapters about how
-->:to live stream podcast and blog at the same time. Every week
-->:and then get your content out among the world and doing
-->:it in a way that is streamlined, simple and
-->:scheduled so that you can continue to do it every week. You feel
-->:motivated, you keep consistent with it. This is available on Amazon
-->:and you can go to Book Livecast Life
-->:and find it very simply and easily. If you would
-->:like to get this book for free, we do offer it
-->:on Kindle Unlimited for free read or on this
-->:Sunday and Monday the 10th and 11th. I think that
-->:is this weekend. On Sunday and Monday you can get it for free
-->:as a Kindle download. Please do go ahead and grab that for
-->:free as our gift to you. If you do, please leave
-->:us a review on Amazon and let us know what you thought about it.
-->:That's awesome. And again, this is so amazing to me how you
-->:do video series on YouTube and then
-->:shortly create a book, then to put on Amazon.
-->:I think this is just a wonderful thing and to tail onto
-->:that because we both create content to sell in different ways. A course,
-->:as I've talked about before, and now what I did with that course is I
-->:took the audio from it and it's an audiobook that will be live
-->:shortly and that's a neat thing. I used a software
-->:called Publish Drive, which if you've never heard of that,
-->:is software that you can use for getting your Amazon
-->:books up, but you can also use it for audiobooks as well.
-->:So using my nifty little podcasting skills, I was able
-->:to separate things out into chapters, upload the chapters into Publish
-->:Drive. And then they are doing all the coordination
-->:with all of the book companies that should be coming out soon, but they
-->:say it could be like a three week wait. So we're in like week
-->:two or three now, so who knows
-->:when it'll come out. But it's very exciting. It's a cool thing now that
-->:all of us can do those things just like
-->:the big guys. And I think that's what's so great about you creating
-->:books and publishing them and then being able to
-->:make audiobooks and things. There's no gatekeeper, you can do it. Yeah,
-->:when you're ready to do it, you just do it. That's right.
-->:So what else is going on? It looks here there's something going on. LinkedIn oh,
-->:let's see. LinkedIn is building new analytics where's
-->:my court? Analytics and video features for creators.
-->:For creators and increasing the visibility of their content.
-->:Now this is an article that LinkedIn is building new analytics and video
-->:features for creators. Basically they have updated and upgraded
-->:how you could put a little video where your profile picture is and that
-->:wasn't working very well. Apparently they've updated it, made it easier for people
-->:to use and it works better now. So we'll give that another try.
-->:They're giving us more analytics about who's reading and engaging with
-->:our content. I'm loving the LinkedIn newsletter
-->:because it sends it out to people and they get an email
-->:about it and I can share it in groups. And every
-->:week my subscriber base goes up just a little bit more
-->:on that newsletter because of the visibility I'm getting
-->:there. I recommend using LinkedIn. If you haven't used
-->:it in a while or haven't used it at all, or haven't really done content
-->:on LinkedIn, sharing your content, then really try
-->:that out because it's going to help you reach new people that you haven't
-->:reached before. Absolutely. I'm guessing so by these new
-->:creator tools. If you're not using creator mode on
-->:LinkedIn and you are a creator, I highly suggest that you
-->:turn on creator mode in LinkedIn.
-->:The main difference that you will see immediately is instead of
-->:having a connection request button, it turns
-->:into follow. So people can follow you. That's right. But it also changes
-->:some of the ways that content is presented on your home page
-->:and LinkedIn profile page. That is a pretty exciting thing. It makes
-->:it a little bit easier for people to engage with you in that way.
-->:One of the people that I follow on LinkedIn, who is a pretty great resource,
-->:who is just an expert and he's helped me
-->:out with my LinkedIn is his name is Andy Foot. His last name is
-->:spelled F-O-T-E. He's a real thought leader on LinkedIn. He's always talking
-->:about things like creator mode and how to extend
-->:the use and how to use LinkedIn. Right. There are a lot of people who
-->:are saying, oh, go and have a pod. And that's one of the
-->:worst things you can do. A pod means you and a group
-->:of people, and it's usually a large group of people go
-->:in on boosting each other's content in a very artificial way.
-->:It's one thing if you see a story that somebody has written
-->:and you share it. It's another thing when it's this coordinated
-->:attack of boosting each other's stuff. It's one of the quickest ways to
-->:get not so much banned, but penalized on LinkedIn and things
-->:that are happening out in that community that LinkedIn is aware of.
-->:And then Andy talks a lot too about some of the other features out there.
-->:So I'll have to check and see if he's talked about this because this is
-->:pretty exciting. And what is this? LinkedIn debuts its own
-->:podcast network. Right. You've heard of networks for podcasts?
-->:Basically, you belong to a group of podcasters
-->:who is sponsored by a particular corporation like
-->:LinkedIn and they have started doing this with
-->:some bigger names, bigger people, like the startup
-->:of you, Hello Monday and other things that are
-->:going on. And that's just a little thing that they're getting started with and
-->:they're building out. So just something to be aware of. I think that's
-->:fantastic. We're seeing it. You can upload your podcast now into Facebook
-->:and all of these different social media platforms.
-->:I haven't done that with Facebook. It is just interesting to
-->:me how big podcasting has become. Even when I started back
-->:in 2018, it just wasn't what it
-->:is today. It's just been this huge explosion. My big concern with
-->:it is, what does that mean for indie podcasters like us?
-->:I think it means it's harder and harder to get a foothold,
-->:but because so many different areas, the gatekeepers are
-->:gone, you don't know if that's really the case or not.
-->:There's been a lot of people who are saying that it's harder to get
-->:a foothold, but the average podcast still only lasts like seven
-->:episodes because of Pod fade, and people don't realize how hard it actually is to
-->:get a show out. No matter how easy we say it is. It's a lack
-->:of planning, not having the system. I think all these tools are exciting.
-->:And who knows, LinkedIn sometimes surprises me where it
-->:seems like they're totally corporate and they send out tools that
-->:are not corporate at all. I love seeing all these platforms
-->:becoming more creator focused. I think it's great. I think LinkedIn
-->:or even data testing a creator fund on LinkedIn.
-->:Yeah, that's great. Yeah. I need to become more engaged.
-->:I actually was accepted into a program with Facebook,
-->:a business leaders program that's put out by
-->:I guess it's meta now, but I was interviewed by people
-->:from Facebook and Vetted, and I'm a part of this
-->:group and I need to engage with it more because it would make me more
-->:of an expert in Facebook. But I personally
-->:do that because it changes so much. It changes so much and it's
-->:actually for small business owners to really help them understand how
-->:to use the tools better. I need to do that. I haven't really been engaging
-->:on Facebook much. I feel like more of my people are on LinkedIn,
-->:but I could speak to things on this show and stuff a little bit
-->:more, become a little more engaged with it. So it's interesting.
-->:I'm excited. I'm very excited with a lot of things going on with LinkedIn,
-->:and I feel like this evolution LinkedIn
-->:is better positioned. We've talked about Amazon before and
-->:their creator tools. I feel like LinkedIn is better positioned for it,
-->:mostly because it's more concentrated in one area.
-->:And as we've talked about, Amazon is more spread out.
-->:It's spread thin. It's really hard to be everything to everybody.
-->:Do we have anything else? You've really taken the lead on things like breaking news
-->:and Tweaks of the Week, because I've been not working much.
-->:When you have things, you put it in there. When you don't. That's right.
-->:So, are we ready to get into the spring clean? I'm a
-->:little excited. Yeah, we got her powering up.
-->:I even brought my feather duster. I see that you're
-->:not wearing your French let's tell the podcast listeners. She's even
-->:wearing a French made costume. I am not wearing a French made costume.
-->:Although that is interesting. We could put something in the show notes.
-->:When I was a Peace Corps volunteer in Kazakhstan,
-->:and there would be like special days, like International Women's Day or
-->:holidays or graduation,
-->:the girls and young women in the school would dress in
-->:what I thought looked like French chamber made costumes.
-->:But it's the traditional dress for when they dress up to school.
-->:And when you said that, I immediately went to Lomanosova
-->:School in Turgan, Kazakhstan and thought about all these adorable
-->:kids running around in their French chamber made costumes. So anyway sidebar
-->:jen just went back to Peace Corps. Cool. I am not wearing a costume like
-->:that. I did bring a few. I don't know that they can only hear,
-->:next time, tune in and see if she really did. Next time?
-->:Yes. No, I won't be wearing that.
-->:But you could tune in and watch us and ask us live questions.
-->:Yeah. Contribute to the conversation.
-->:Today we're going to talk about four key areas you need to clean up to
-->:make your business shine. I like that.
-->:So what is the first thing you have
-->:here? Take a look at your website. We just did your website.
-->:We don't have to look at my website. But as a
-->:business owner, one of the first things that you could be working on,
-->:if you clean out your closet, you clean out your kitchen.
-->:You can clean up your website and it doesn't mean that you personally have
-->:to do the editing. But a lot of times people
-->:set and forget the website. Unless you're a creator,
-->:you really just let it go. Raising my hand, I do that.
-->:You set and forget. And one of the things that I've found in
-->:a lot of the presentations and the research and working with clients that I
-->:do is because
-->:so many people are looking for you online versus pre
-->:pandemic. People are really relying on that information being
-->:accurate. And if, for example, you have a phone number
-->:and it's old or your address is old, or the services you
-->:offer are not correct, people just bail.
-->:They're not going to keep trying to figure it out. If your hours are wrong
-->:on your Google business profile, they're not going to engage with you.
-->:It's not worthwhile for them that first
-->:impression. Yeah, you've lost that potential customer.
-->:So it's really a good time. This is one of the
-->:low hanging fruit, if you will, that you can go through, read your
-->:website and look at it and say, man,
-->:this is accurate. This is great. I think people should do it more than once
-->:a year. But hey, once a year, if you haven't
-->:done it, take a look. Is it accurate?
-->:And if you can look at it through your potential customers eyes
-->:and this is a little hard sometimes because we get really
-->:close to the content and things like that. I know
-->:that with my website. I sent it to Shelley and she was like, You've got
-->:an error here. I was like, what?
-->:Because it was just a little typographical thing, but it's
-->:so close to it I can't even see it anymore. So I was like,
-->:Keep it coming, just keep telling me what's going on. So if it's possible for
-->:you to look at it through your customers eyes, look at it and say,
-->:is it easy to navigate? Is it easy for people to find what
-->:I do? Is it easy for people to understand why
-->:they should engage with me or how? And those are some of the
-->:things that you can be doing. And then you just make little tweaks. This isn't
-->:a big overhaul or anything, this is just,
-->:oh, I could make this a little bit easier. And that's the
-->:first thing I think that you can do to make
-->:your business shine a little bit more. Yeah, and I did that
-->:today, in fact, because I was on the podcast interview this morning at
-->:07:00 A.m., and I told him about the book and I
-->:sent them to the website Agkmedia Studio,
-->:and I was like, this book better be on there. So I made sure to
-->:add it in on a couple of different pages and links and buttons to
-->:push to get there. So, yeah, you definitely, whenever you're doing something new
-->:in your business, you put out a book or you started a new show or
-->:something's happening, definitely immediately go and get that
-->:onto your website so that people will know about it.
-->:Absolutely. Again, this is something relatively simple.
-->:Probably just a few things that you might find. If you look
-->:at your website, you might be like, oh, okay, I just need to change a
-->:handful of things, then I can move on to the next thing. But yes,
-->:make sure that everything is accurate that's up there and your products are up there.
-->:I do the same thing. I forget and I talk
-->:about something and then I'm hustling after the podcast interview.
-->:That's another good reason to do things like that. It reminds you, oh,
-->:I better get my website straightened out because I just gave that link out,
-->:or I better make sure that this is correct because I just gave that link
-->:or I'm going to give that link out at the next isn't going to work.
-->:That's right. Absolutely. So then the second thing,
-->:this goes a little bit deeper under the hood, but I
-->:think that this is really important and it takes me back to an interview I
-->:did with Tim McCain. It was one of the first interviews I did on the
-->:show, is you need to review your business goals.
-->:And the reason is if you're not touching
-->:base with your business goals and saying, how are we doing? We just
-->:finished the first quarter of the year. If you keep track of that, we're at
-->:the beginning of the second quarter now. What were your first quarter goals? How are
-->:you looking toward that? How are you tracking? Are you getting close
-->:to that? Do you need to adjust your goals? And I remember what he said
-->:on that show, which was that they had set a goal
-->:of a million dollars in revenue and they
-->:hit it and they never adjusted the goal. So they
-->:never really got beyond the million dollar revenue
-->:until they went back and they looked and they were like, we can do better
-->:than this. We've already proven that we can meet that goal. But because they hadn't
-->:been consistently reviewing it, they weren't really stretching
-->:themselves into doing it, doing more,
-->:and how they can improve even more. Then they said that once they adjusted
-->:for that, then they were able to achieve more.
-->:So one of the reasons that you look at those goals is you can be
-->:like, whoa, I am way off from my goals, or I
-->:have exceeded those goals. In either case, you need
-->:to adjust what your thinking is and what it is that you're working on,
-->:tracking and adjusting. Yeah. Do you
-->:do that? It's not a sit down and look at it and check numbers
-->:as much as it is. Toby and I'll sit and we'll have a talk.
-->:Is this working for us? Okay, we had
-->:some bad news last week. We lost a client. He passed away.
-->:Are we going to keep on this track? And if so, we need to get
-->:some new clients, and what are we going to do to make that happen?
-->:So when things happen that, hey,
-->:wake up, is this still a viable goal? What do we need to be doing
-->:to get back on track with this? So we don't have a
-->:set time when we do it, but when stuff happens and
-->:we take another look at what are we doing, what should
-->:we be doing? Yeah, I totally understand.
-->:I do the same thing with Gail for Epiphany courses and then I need
-->:to update it. It still has my Q one goals of which
-->:I did some and then some were really outlandish.
-->:And I'm realizing that I need to adjust. I need to scale back to be
-->:a little more reasonable on some of my goals. And then the
-->:part about it. The reason that you do the goal
-->:review, even if it is a high level feeling
-->:into it, or you're touching base with your co founders or
-->:other people or even your customers, the reason that you really review those
-->:business goals really goes into step number three,
-->:which is, are your marketing strategies aligned
-->:with those goals? So if you go and you adjust your
-->:business goals, then the next thing you need to adjust is
-->:your marketing and your budget and anything
-->:else that's related to those goals. But this is a marketing show. So we're going
-->:to talk about marketing. You don't want me talking about budgets.
-->:That's not my lane. But I will say that when you shift your goals,
-->:then you're probably shifting what it is that you're doing to achieve
-->:them. You may have some new initiatives, some new projects. You may
-->:have some things that's going on that you may be shifting. You may be changing
-->:some things. So have you also adjusted
-->:your marketing strategies to fit your goals?
-->:It's a good time to go, okay, so what is working with my
-->:marketing? Am I getting out to the people that I
-->:want to? Are they responding?
-->:Has my marketing been effective? What parts of my marketing were helping
-->:me achieve my goals? What parts are then it's not really doing as
-->:much as I had hoped. And how can
-->:we adjust that? Are my marketing campaigns effective?
-->:And we haven't mentioned that yet. That's really what we're going to be
-->:talking about for the balance of the month, are marketing campaigns
-->:and how to get your marketing campaigns going and getting
-->:started with that. If you have a smattering of things that you're doing,
-->:I like to call it a lot of people call it spray and pray.
-->:Other people I like to call it throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what
-->:sticks. If that's your strategy right now,
-->:it's a good time to circle the wagons a little bit and be
-->:a little bit more strategic and use tactics that are
-->:really think of your marketing as a support system for your goals.
-->:Like, how is it helping you in a direct way achieve those goals,
-->:especially since you've adjusted based on your spring cleaning?
-->:That's right. What Toby and I did is we've been interviewing digital marketing experts
-->:because you're one of them. And we took quotes from the six
-->:people we have spoken with thus far and found a
-->:theme that they were telling us. And we decided the theme was
-->:having authentic conversations within your content to
-->:attract audience and to make them feel like
-->:they belong. Give them some ownership of what your content is
-->:all about. Just have them becoming a part of your community. So we
-->:discussed that, and then from there, we decided, okay, we need
-->:to start doing more conversations where we're just having it
-->:more open, where we're giving people a chance to give us feedback and
-->:to talk about what they want to talk about instead of just listening to us
-->:give presentations. So we decided to do a Saturday night show based
-->:on that. I think we did do what you're suggesting
-->:here. We looked at our marketing strategies. We said, how could we make it better?
-->:And we took the advice of those experts we've been speaking with and
-->:said, okay, how can we take their advice and put
-->:it within our business model? And how can we use that
-->:to make those connections happen? I think that's
-->:great. And I love this concept. I need to check
-->:my newsletter again and see what time that is on Saturday and see if I
-->:can get in there.
-->:Pacific 06:00 P.m. Pacific.
-->:Yes. Okay, that'll be fun. And that's
-->:the thing. Community is important and it's
-->:a big part of it. So I'm not surprised
-->:that that's a theme or a thread that kind of came through.
-->:And I like it because it's a lot more authentic. One of the other things
-->:that is a big trend right now is the influencer marketing
-->:stuff. I'm listening to this book right now called Hype and it's
-->:a lot about influencer marketing, but it's about the scams that
-->:kind of come out of it and that bro marketing,
-->:and it's not as authentic.
-->:A lot of people can use things like influencer marketing to
-->:really promote something that isn't real. But you can't fake
-->:community. That's the thing. You can't fake community. You can't fake
-->:the questions and answers and that interaction that you get from
-->:people and that's what makes it so much more effective, is reaching out
-->:to people and saying, hey, how can I help you? And do the live q
-->:and A. That's right.
-->:You do it within the parameters of your own business model
-->:so that you do what works best for you. Like I said, we're doing this
-->:conversations because that's what's going to work within our business model.
-->:But you can do a back and forth in any way
-->:that you want to send out an email and please write back
-->:and whatever it is that you can do to get that feedback from people
-->:if you're way off base or if you're speaking to the heart of the matter
-->:or not. Absolutely. And in the marketing
-->:model that I use to go through with my clients, feedback is
-->:actually a big part of it. Most of the time, people look for reviews
-->:and testimonials. You're asking the people who are already happy. Like,
-->:most of the time, if you have a client that is not happy with you,
-->:you're not going to be like, oh, hey, can I get a review? That's not
-->:who you're asking. And that's why it's much more effective,
-->:say, on your website to have those reviews sprinkled throughout your website than to
-->:just have a review page, because everybody knows that's a praise page.
-->:People are just saying great stuff about you. But what makes
-->:marketing much more authentic and more real is when you have feedback.
-->:So you're getting feedback from people that may not be
-->:your all star clients, maybe it went well,
-->:but it wasn't like the best, but they can give
-->:you honest feedback. And a lot of small business owners, a lot of
-->:people I talk to are fearful of that, and I'm like, but that's how you
-->:improve. So anything that you can do to not just get
-->:the praise, but get the feedback about what could be better and
-->:then you take. That and you integrate it into your business processes,
-->:then that is a marketing improvement. And people don't
-->:necessarily look at that as part of their marketing, but for
-->:some businesses, that can be like the linchpin
-->:toward something greater if you're willing to take that
-->:risk and get feedback from people. Yeah.
-->:So if you're interested in all of our thoughts on that, you can watch our
-->:show that we did yesterday on Messages and Methods or listen to the podcast.
-->:I found it very interesting, but then I created the presentation.
-->:But it gets into the whole Content marketing and Content
-->:Ink and that model of build an audience first
-->:and then listen to what they want and then give them that. It's really good.
-->:Oh, I forgot to tell you. So we talked about Content Ink. This was an
-->:off air conversation that we had because
-->:Shelley's been reading it. And then I went and found Content Ink, and I think
-->:I have a newer edition than you. I got the second edition,
-->:and I've been reading it, and it's fascinating. It's a really great
-->:read. So we'll have to put a copy of that into the show notes
-->:so that if you're interested in reading and learning more about that
-->:content, about Content Inc. And then also looking
-->:at how Shelley is applying it,
-->:that is a fascinating thing. And I love the idea of creating
-->:the audience and then selling the products.
-->:I think that it's a great thing, and I want to get all of
-->:your insights on that. So I'll go back and listen to the show.
-->:I haven't been as with it because of
-->:this concussion. It's making me a little bit goofy. You're doing good,
-->:but what else did you get from that book? It's just a quick I think
-->:that was the most important thing was that whole concept
-->:of first you build an audience and then
-->:you come up with a product. And that was like to me, it was like,
-->:oh, interesting. Now, that is what we do, and especially
-->:as a media company. But what you also want to do is you
-->:want to be the leading authority in your
-->:niche industry so that people are going to come
-->:to you whenever they think about, for instance, if they
-->:are like, I want to start live streaming and podcasting
-->:and blogging all at the same time every week. Who's going to talk to me
-->:about that? Me. I do that. I don't know anybody else
-->:who does that, in fact. So I have a niche industry where
-->:I am the premier thought
-->:leader. So come to me as I grow that audience.
-->:Then they can tell me, here's what I need to
-->:buy from you. I want this book. I want this course, I want this one,
-->:and I can start producing exactly what they need.
-->:Absolutely. And I think that the other thing that you'll likely learn,
-->:because it happens to me because I'm on the technical side, too.
-->:One of the great things about feedback and growing that audience first is that
-->:they will tell you. You say that this is super easy,
-->:but I don't think that this part is super easy. So I think that it's
-->:also an opportunity when you open yourself up to these Q and A's that you're
-->:getting, that you're technical and I'm not. And this is easy and
-->:it's not. And that's how we can adjust to and get better. And that's the
-->:beauty of growing the audience first, is that you're learning
-->:as you go, like what obstacles people have. And then you take
-->:that, and then, because you're the expert, it's relatively easy for you to take
-->:that building block that you get and just go, oh,
-->:okay, I'm going to add this, because what I've
-->:been hearing is that it's not X,
-->:it's actually X plus Y. And that's what my
-->:people need in order to really get ahead. And that's
-->:what's so great about it. Because oftentimes I think and it's the old way,
-->:right, of doing things, that you make a product and
-->:you sell that, and then you find out nobody needs that,
-->:and you wasted a lot of time apple. And then you just convince everybody
-->:they need it. They have a lot more money than we do.
-->:That's a lot different.
-->:So I love this. I think that this is great. And that's
-->:actually something that you can do to spring clean your business as part of the
-->:marketing strategy, is to look at how you can bring in
-->:things and tidy some of that up. Are they in alignment?
-->:Are you creating content that really speaks to your people?
-->:Because sometimes that's where that disconnect is. Sometimes that disconnect is
-->:that you haven't been getting the feedback from people or they're telling
-->:you and you're not listening to what it is that's happening.
-->:And because the marketing is one of the ways that you boost
-->:people into that conversion place where they're buying, that's one
-->:of the reasons why it's really important that you make sure that your marketing
-->:strategies are in alignment. And a lot of times we do
-->:a lot with content, both you and I. That's really what we do.
-->:So we tend to lean toward the content side. But this could be if you
-->:rely heavily on social media or you rely on some of
-->:the different areas, the different dimensions of marketing, you may
-->:need to be making some tweaks. That's right. You might want to think about,
-->:am I utilizing my referral network
-->:at all? Or effectively? And that's something that we
-->:have that's there that we sometimes forget to use.
-->:Yeah, I think that my thing about that is
-->:I was meeting with a client a few days ago, and they were already going
-->:into Facebook groups and all kinds of stuff. And I'm like, hey, let's get
-->:your word of mouth and referrals. Let's get that flywheel going
-->:before we start worrying about a lot of people we don't know.
-->:Let's work on the people that we do know and build community and
-->:content and everything around that. I think that's a really big part of
-->:the business growth model, is like, how do you bring other people that
-->:you already know into the discussion to really help you out?
-->:That's right, because if I look at who our clients have
-->:been, they have been people that we already knew and had worked with
-->:in the past in other areas of our lives. And then they decided
-->:to work with us because they already have that no, like, trust factor with
-->:us. That much easier just to add them on in a new
-->:capacity and a new business model. Yeah, absolutely.
-->:Oh, it looks like somebody how neat.
-->:Yeah. Content marketing. Thank you. Thank you
-->:so much. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you for
-->:tuning in. Are we ready to move on to
-->:number four way? Okay, so the last way
-->:that you can be spring cleaning your business okay, so let's
-->:be honest. Let's take a pause. My guess is, if I were to wager
-->:a guess, Shelley, your inbox is pristine.
-->:Is that right? No, I think we know the answer.
-->:Email inbox. I did go through
-->:and unsubscribe from a lot of things this last
-->:weekend. Yeah. So that of course, helps if I find myself
-->:going through and just mass deleting stuff. It's okay. It's time to
-->:go through and unsubscribe from things that I'm no
-->:longer interested in. I also told myself I
-->:have way too much going on in my life this month to sign up
-->:for any more free webinars or courses or anything else like
-->:that. So I immediately delete that stuff too,
-->:and don't even look at that. I think it's a honing
-->:process. It's okay. What do I need to get rid of? Because we
-->:collect clutter in our inboxes.
-->:So I've been working on it, but it's not quite there yet.
-->:Wow, that surprises me. I thought you'd be one of those zero inbox
-->:people. So if you are a zero inbox person
-->:I know my friend Elizabeth Case is a zero inbox person. This is
-->:not for you. But if you are, probably the
-->:majority of people have inboxes get a little out of control.
-->:This is a good time to really take a look at your inbox
-->:and see if there's some easier ways of managing. I think I've talked about it
-->:on the show before that I'm not a huge I don't really like email that
-->:much. It's a necessary evil. As part of a business owner, I use both Maelstrom
-->:and Sanebox. I use them for different reasons.
-->:Sanebox has gotten me into some trouble because it's a filtering system,
-->:but sometimes people get filtered, and it's
-->:typically business owners who use their personal
-->:business email. So it would be like,
-->:Jen@womenconkerbiz.com, if that's what my
-->:daily email was, then if I use
-->:that as my email marketing that goes out
-->:from ActiveCampaign. Then when people email me, sandbox will
-->:assume that it's email marketing and it puts it in there so I
-->:don't have to worry about unsubscribing and stuff. Because all of the email newsletters end
-->:up in a place sanebox does. That where it knows if
-->:it's email marketing, it knows if it's something that is later.
-->:So it seems to know if it's like product updates. I subscribe to a lot
-->:of stuff that a lot of software product
-->:updates and that so Sanebox does a lot to save me time in
-->:terms of filtering things into different places. Like I said
-->:though, sometimes you have to train it so that it won't auto
-->:filter everything, and so that's sanebox. The other one
-->:that I use, that I absolutely love is called Maelstrom.
-->:Now, Maelstrom, I think I could probably get
-->:to do some of the things that Sanebox does. I use Maelstrom
-->:to just mass delete,
-->:clean up things. Gmail account, that is not a work
-->:account. And I use Maelstrom to really go through and
-->:delete a lot of stuff and clean out the inbox quickly.
-->:But if you are, there are all different kinds of programs
-->:out there. I think one of them is called superhuman. There are a few other
-->:inbox zero things that you can do. Take a look at
-->:your email situation and if it's
-->:stressing you out, if you are like my aunt who I
-->:don't think is listening to the show, and you have 40,000 emails
-->:that you haven't read, I looked at her phone, her iPhone,
-->:and I was like, is this for real? Just seeing that many emails stressed
-->:me out. So if you have an email situation
-->:that is stressing you out, spring clean that, find a
-->:tool, whether it's Maelstrom, sanebox,
-->:superhuman, anything that can help you organize and
-->:manage it. It may even be as simple as creating folders for
-->:your clients, and like sticking those emails in the
-->:client folders and keeping up with it, it can really
-->:save you sanity
-->:time,
-->:I think. I don't know, maybe. And I did a whole article on this years
-->:ago that some people don't even get stressed out about email at all.
-->:And I thought it would be where she would never even look at her email
-->:box anymore. And I think she just eventually just closed that one
-->:and then opened a new one. Oh my
-->:gosh, really? She never opened anything or
-->:looked at anything. I was like, oh boy. Yeah.
-->:If you're interested, Toby and I did
-->:do a we have a playlist that goes along
-->:with our book, and it's a bunch of videos and a playlist
-->:called livecast Life. It's on our messages and methods YouTube channel.
-->:If you look at this one here, gmail is a great tool, so learn
-->:to use it. Toby goes through a lot of his things
-->:that he does with Gmail in order to filter, to forward,
-->:and all of the things that you can do just within Gmail without getting any
-->:additional tools. It's also Gmail thing is free, and it gives you
-->:some ideas on some things that you can do to help you keep
-->:your inbox under control. So we found that one
-->:of our first clients, we had just didn't even understand Gmail,
-->:didn't understand forwarding, didn't understand how to find
-->:something. We sent you an email. I can't find it.
-->:Okay, we'll go to all mail. What's that? So we went
-->:through step by step in this video because the client that
-->:we had needed that. So we thought there's probably other people,
-->:a lot of people out there for sure. Check that out. If that's
-->:something that you need to understand a little bit better,
-->:it's right there on our YouTube channel.
-->:We'll put it in the show notes. If we remember.
-->:We'll try to remember. I'll try to remember. I'm the one who usually does
-->:the Show Notes, and now I have to look up, and it's we're 45 minutes
-->:in, and I've done nothing. Good luck. I got a lot of it in the
-->:chat, but it'll be okay. We'll help you. We will put it on right
-->:now. So I think that we've covered a lot of the major areas.
-->:If you think that we have forgotten something, then please
-->:let us know what you would do to spring clean your business
-->:and help it shine. We're trying to hit things that we've
-->:seen and that we can talk about. I would say that the first three were
-->:definitely in the marketing arena, and that is taking a look at your website,
-->:reviewing your business goals, and you're reviewing your business goals so
-->:that you can make some marketing adjustments. I would say probably the
-->:inbox stuff isn't so much a marketing thing only if you're not
-->:replying to people. That could possibly be
-->:bad marketing if you're not responding to emails. So take
-->:a look at your inbox, especially if it stresses you out. I think that these
-->:four areas will really help you heading into
-->:this next quarter, or I guess it started seven days ago,
-->:and I really hope that those help you make your
-->:business shine. So we're rounding third.
-->:How funny is that, that I use a baseball analogy.
-->:Happy opening day again to everybody It is
-->:also, if you are stressed out by social media,
-->:this may also be a good time to check out the seven day social
-->:Media Detox. We have a link to that
-->:in the Show Notes. It's a free seven day
-->:journal that can help you process how you
-->:are interacting and engaging with social media. If social media
-->:is the thing that you need to spring clean in your business, this might be
-->:a good option for you. And it's absolutely
-->:free. And I believe that Shelley also has something.
-->:I just once again bring up the book livecast Life,
-->:the content creator lifestyle. And this has
-->:got the system in there for you to do every week.
-->:You can do your live stream, your podcast, and your blog. And it's all very
-->:simplified in that way. It's going to keep your life a little bit
-->:more organized when you have a system like that. I just love it. I love
-->:it. I'm excited. I'm definitely grabbing that. Yeah.
-->:And again, grab it on Sunday or Monday of this coming
-->:week and it's going to be a free download for the Kindle
-->:and you can then review it when you're done.
-->:Wow, that's awesome. Yeah. So tweaks
-->:of the week. Tweaks of the week music
-->:just makes me so happy.
-->:Oh. LinkedIn Live stream event add to calendar. What is let me tell
-->:you what happened. I saw when we scheduled this show
-->:on LinkedIn today, I saw it there as a post and it said,
-->:Attend, and I clicked that button and then it said, add to
-->:your calendar. And I was like and
-->:it sent me an email that said, you are attending
-->:this event at this time. Do you want to add it to your calendar?
-->:So it asked me twice if I wanted to add it to my calendar,
-->:and I was just like, whoa, that's phenomenal.
-->:That's fantastic. And we didn't have to do anything extra other than schedule
-->:it. That's a pretty royal
-->:we since you scheduled it. But I'll take it. Yeah, but you
-->:gave me the information and then I just put it on StreamYard. So yeah,
-->:we do it as a team. That's fabulous.
-->:Look at us. It's lovely because they
-->:really seem to be embracing more of the creator
-->:thing, like getting into what it is we have to do and helping people
-->:remember. If they really want to engage and they're really learning something,
-->:then it's good for them to have a way that they can add it to
-->:their calendar. Yes. I love it. That's phenomenal. I didn't know
-->:that, so I'm going to have to go. This is the first time I've
-->:seen it, so I think it's new. Yeah. That's awesome.
-->:What is the wisdom app? Wisdom App? Okay. I got an email from
-->:the people at Wisdom and they said, we would like you to claim your podcast.
-->:And I was like, I don't even know what this is about. Okay, let me
-->:check it out. Wisdom App is an app
-->:that it combines place to find podcasts,
-->:a place to meet people who are also podcasters
-->:and possibly have them on your show. And it combines
-->:it with a clubhouse type of an
-->:app, social audio app. So you can just go on
-->:yourself or just talk or show up, and then people will show up
-->:with you, and then you create a clubhouse type room or
-->:you can find people on there who might be guests on your podcast.
-->:And it's new, so it's still building.
-->:It's very different in that it combines it seemed to me
-->:to combine all the things that people liked about Clubhouse
-->:but without some of the things they didn't like. You can record the name
-->:that you're doing and then you can use it on your podcast.
-->:So if you had a really good session on the app,
-->:then you can take that and put it on your podcast. How interesting
-->:because that sounds like Fireside. Also.
-->:That's fascinating. Yeah, I'll have to go look at that claim my
-->:podcast. Yeah. And that sounds so that
-->:before we move into because Vote Frenzy also podcast
-->:related a little bit, let me slip in
-->:my app that I was going to use last week that then we didn't have
-->:a show and it's called Air. AIRR.
-->:And I learned about it from a
-->:YouTuber who was talking about he has a concept called Second Brain
-->:and he uses Air A-I-R as a way to
-->:capture quotes that he really likes from podcasts.
-->:So what Air does is it's a way for you to listen to
-->:podcasts. So it would be like instead of say,
-->:Spotify or Apple podcasts or whatever. And then
-->:as you're listening, if you find something like a quote that's just like
-->:really great that you want to capture, you can actually highlight
-->:it and it actually makes audio clips
-->:of that. So I'm like looking at it through the podcaster lens and I'm like,
-->:oh, so could I make like audio clips to share? Yes, you can do
-->:that. But it's also if you want to share things
-->:either with your audience or you found something enlightening and then you wanted to put
-->:that like in a blog post or something like that. And that's
-->:Air and that was a pretty interesting thing. It seems like
-->:if you are listening to big name podcasts, the transcripts are already there.
-->:If you're listening to indie podcasts, you need to generate the transcript
-->:and it will help you get through it. So that's air. And then
-->:you also had vote Frenzy. What's that? All right, I met one
-->:of the creators on LinkedIn of Vote Frenzy and he told me all
-->:about it last week. So I checked into it a little bit and
-->:basically you can put out a poll,
-->:a quiz kind of a game that you can use on your phone
-->:so it looks like a little app phone game
-->:thing. And then when you answer the question, what's your
-->:biggest obstacle as a digital marketer? And you can have four or five
-->:different choices and then after you answer, it gives you what other
-->:people have answered. So percentage wise, 5% said this,
-->:20% said that, so you know what their answers were.
-->:And then you keep scrolling down and then you get a coupon for something.
-->:So it could be a coupon for percentage
-->:off of merchandise that company puts out or it
-->:could be a freebie or it could be any kind of a coupon that you
-->:decided on. So it is a way to gather
-->:audience and give them things that are
-->:of interest to them. So if you were to say, do you prefer
-->:vegetarian meat pizza or no pizza or whatever,
-->:and when they answer vegetarian pizza, then you can give them a coupon
-->:for veggie pizza so that they're telling you what they like. So then you
-->:can hone that coupon just for what they said that they wanted.
-->:That's fun. I'll have to check that out. Yeah, that's cool.
-->:What is the radio? Are we at the bottom of the hour or the
-->:top of the hour? We're getting at the top of the hour here, I think
-->:at the top of the hour here. So what inspirational nugget
-->:do you have to share? I have this
-->:here. Build and use your support system to grow closer to your family and friends.
-->:And the reason this came up is because my mom is in the hospital,
-->:and I've been getting a phone call from my brother almost
-->:every day. This is the most I've talked to my brother on the phone
-->:in my entire life. It's not that we don't like each other
-->:or anything else. It's just that we've never really been close. We have a
-->:lot of respect for each other, but it isn't something that we ever did,
-->:was just to call each other on the phone. But now he's
-->:calling me on the phone. He's giving me updates. I'm supporting him because
-->:it's rough. He's got to be in there in the hospital and see her go
-->:through these things, and it's rough. So I can support him
-->:as he gives me that conversation about what happened today,
-->:and here's where she's at and here's what's happening. Then I can tell him,
-->:you're doing great. Hang in there. I really appreciate you. We can support
-->:each other, make sure that you do stay in contact
-->:and do have that support system so that when you do need
-->:it, it is there for you. I have been very lucky
-->:to have a very strong support system. It's not big,
-->:but it's deep. It's not shallow and wide.
-->:It's narrow and deep. So I
-->:have those people that I know I can rely on, and they've told
-->:me again and again in the past month or so, I'm here if you need
-->:me, if you want to call me, let me know whatever you need.
-->:So I think that sometimes when we don't
-->:need that support system, we forget that it's a good
-->:time to build one up, maybe to reach out and make some new friends and
-->:to grow that community so that it's there when you need it.
-->:Exactly. Or we forget that people are
-->:there, or we don't reach out because we're like, I'm okay.
-->:I don't need anything. Right?
-->:Yeah. I know that. When my dad died about a
-->:year and a half ago, it was a real time of, like, you realize
-->:who is and isn't in your support system.
-->:And I would say that it's
-->:good to know before then. Yeah, so it's good
-->:to I totally agree with everything that you're saying. And hug the
-->:people you love. Make sure that they know short. Take it short connections
-->:every time you can. That's right.
-->:That's all I had inspirational music here
-->:that was inspiration for the week.
-->:Yeah. I just want to send out a lot of love to everybody. Thank you
-->:so much for being here. Thank you so much for listening.
-->:And we will be back next week and we'll be talking about
-->:marketing campaigns. I believe next week is
-->:Marketing Campaigns 101. Kind of.
-->:Is that what we decided? Yeah. At least that's what
-->:I'm prepping. So, anyway, have a great week,
-->:everyone. If you have any questions or comments, please feel
-->:free to reach out. Otherwise, we'll be talking to you next week. Get that
-->:spring cleaning started and we will see you next week.
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