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Imagine the terror of death that does not end with the grave.
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:In the Roman mind, to live was to be remembered.
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:To be forgotten was the true final annihilation.
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:Damnatio memore was not just a simple execution.
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:It was a forensic scrubbing of a human soul from the fabric of reality.
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:It was a haunting state-sponsored gaslighting of the future.
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:Imagine waking up to the sounds of hammers against the city walls, knowing that as your
blood cools, every record of your laughter, every decree you sign, and every monument to
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:your existence is being systematically pulverized into dust.
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:It's the horror of being unexisted, of having your face chiseled off a family portrait
until you are nothing but a gray smudge.
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:A ghost denied even the dignity of a name.
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:This wasn't just about removing a person.
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:It was about mutilating the memory of everyone who had ever knew them.
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:It was a violent, public amputation of history.
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:When the Senate decreed this condemnation of memory, they were telling the citizens that
their eyes just deceived them, that the man that they had cheered for in the streets had
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:never truly been there.
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:There is a primal, existential dread in seeing a bronze statue, once a symbol of absolute
power, toppled and dragged through the mud to be melted down into chamber pots.
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:Excuse me.
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:Yeah, um, sorry, but this is, uh, bio 305.
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:Uh, this must be the wrong lecture hall?
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:Maybe?
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:ah
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:Okay.
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:It is 3.30 now.
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:Actually, you guys get there a little late since you had to do all that.
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:is when 3.40, 3.30 rolls around, mull in the car, you got a text from Dr.
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:Irene Kramer saying he has made his appointment.
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:Do you think that we should just text her back and say, how does he look?
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:Or do think we just show up?
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:You know, if he's there for an appointment he's not been doing well, I don't want to spook
him.
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:Maybe just ask her like, is he stable?
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:Is now a good time?
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:Yeah, I think I text back, he stable looking?
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:Yeah, you get a text back.
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:It says, stable, yes.
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:See me after appointment, 430.
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:I just sit back, I, okay.
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:Can we real quick look around to see, since we put out, or we did like the tracking thing
with Department of Transportation, like do I see a vehicle that has his license plate?
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:Right out front is his car.
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:uh Model.
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:For sure.
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:You can tell me if I wouldn't have this, but as part of my intro, when I said I air tagged
all of my trainees and made them like do a certain number.
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:Can I throw that in his vehicle?
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:Okay.
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:Yeah.
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:How are you getting it into the vehicle?
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:You know, I think I kinda like look around to see if there's anyone walking.
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:I nonchalantly watch, walk over and then I, I don't know, maybe use my pocket knife to
like pop the gas door open.
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:I unscrew the gas cap, stick it in like the top.
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:You know how the gas cap has like the little like plastic ring?
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:I like stick it in there and maybe just like, I don't know, use my gum.
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:Basically just stick it in the gas cap somehow, put the gas cap back on.
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:close the thing and yeah
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:Not fucking around with the gas lid, that won't ever, like, have any problems.
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:Sure.
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:What's the, what is the parking lot look like?
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:Are there a lot of people in there?
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:Like, do you think we could potentially get like look into his car without being noticed
or and is it parked like?
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:This is street parking.
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:You are parked behind his car.
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:No, you aren't parked at all.
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:You're on...
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:on two legs.
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:Ah, do you think we...
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:Should we try to look in his car, Or do you want to just...
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:What do you want to do?
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:I'm happy to ambush the guy.
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:I don't feel like that's going to work super well.
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:Yeah, I mean, I don't think we ambush him.
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:Directives are we need to find out who he's working with, what he's doing, and talk to
him.
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:Theoretically, we do need to capture, but I don't know, is jumping a guy in broad daylight
outside a clinic is necessarily a good way to go about things.
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:ah
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:Kramer had said that she felt like this was maybe a neutral territory for him.
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:So he could also do it that way.
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:My concern is that I think all my shit's going to fall apart immediately there because,
you know, I don't have any actual police stuff to back any of that up.
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:Yeah, you know, maybe we ask her if she can talk to him about answering some questions for
us after, you know, after their appointment's done.
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:Cause us just busting into his therapy appointment's probably not going to go well either.
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:yeah, I don't think that's gonna work, oh whatsoever.
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:I have a feeling he's gonna get somewhat aggressive if we approach really in any manner
from what I, you know, from talking with Kramer.
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:Could I get alertness from both?
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:You as a 67 on
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:pretty sure.
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:that box, mo.
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:It's a pass.
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:91 on a 21.
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:that box.
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:Morrison, while you guys are talking, there's a guy been watching you.
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:Uh, there's a, it's a, he's, he's a guy in a ratty sweatshirt.
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:He's wearing like, really torn up tennis shoes.
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:He's got really long stringy greasy hair.
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:He looks, maybe he's unhoused.
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:He's got a really scraggly beard and he's been looking at you this whole time.
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:Is there something I can just step behind to break his line of sight?
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:Yeah, you can like step behind this car.
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:Okay, yeah I do that.
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:And then I wait for like, I don't know, 30 seconds to see if he comes.
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:Yeah, he does.
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:He does.
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:He walks up to Mul now that Mul is standing alone.
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:uh I step back out and I say, hey friend, see something you like?
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:Yeah, man.
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:um listen.
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:You gotta listen to me, man.
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:I uh had a dream.
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:I think I've been having it for a long time now.
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:But I had it last night again.
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:I only remembered it now, but I was supposed to come here.
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:And when I come here, I can kill everyone.
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:And when I do that, I feel better in the dream.
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:But I don't want to do that.
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:Yeah, I think that's a good idea.
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:And I, can I do an ocular pat down search?
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:He pulls out a gun.
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:Let's do this.
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:eh Could I with a human, do you think I could get a sense of is this brandishing a weapon
with the idea that he's just going to that he's uh committed to shooting?
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:It's really, think my question, quite honestly, that's a 62 on a fucking 60.
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:OK, well, there.
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:I already spent my one luck.
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:It really truly is.
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:You wanna do human, Jimmy?
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:Sure, mine's really poor, but I can try.
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:I do not pass.
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:hoodie front pocket.
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:Yeah, he's holding a gun now.
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:Saying, I've been alone.
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:I was supposed to use this, but I don't want to.
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:I think we see Mull say, hey friend, I know that you're probably going through something.
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:I've been there before.
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:I think it's really important to think through what you're about to do.
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:We actually work pretty closely with some of our mental health associates here outside of
this clinic.
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:We're pretty interested in helping people out.
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:I'd be interested in hearing what's making you feel this way.
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:You know, that's possible, but this violence isn't gonna stop it.
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:What's gonna stop it is talking about it.
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:And I think it's you and I and maybe my friend over here should sit down and put that gun
down.
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:73 on an ADO, thank
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:Yeah, he reaches the gun out towards you.
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:peanuts.
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:trading this and I just take the gun from you and like, know, remove all the ammunition
and just put it in my pack.
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:the
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:The safety was off.
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:This guy had it off in his pocket.
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:Thanks.
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:Yeah, we're happy to help, friend.
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:We're actually here to meet with Dr.
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:Kramer, who is a therapist.
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:So you've come to the right place.
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:Do you think that we could set you up with her, maybe?
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:She could get you talking?
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:I'm gonna go home.
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:uh Before you go, tell us a little bit about these dreams.
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:Do you think talking about it would help get it out?
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:told you.
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:The dream's the same every time.
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:I come here, I take the gun out, and I kill everyone.
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:I live in Seattle.
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:I spent my last few bucks getting ride shares over here, because I knew that if I followed
the dream, it'd be done.
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:It's like, have you ever been stuck in a loop?
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:And you just know if you complete that one action, if you finish that one, if it just puts
that last piece in place, you can just...
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:it'll be over?
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:Yeah, it's that.
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:Anyways, thanks.
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:Sure, nice to meet you Mark, I'm Chase.
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:Thanks, Chase.
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:Hole has walked away.
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:oh How we feeling about that?
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:I'm worried he's gonna come back.
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:He kind of explicitly said he would, so...
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:Yeah.
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:Actually, think as Hole is walking away, let me weigh out.
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:I'm not very good at being somebody who's just like a giant dick, but that's how I wrote
this guy.
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:So uh I kind of feel like Hole, as he's walking away, would maybe try to take a picture of
the guy, quite honestly, now that he's disarmed him.
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:And feels like even if that were to piss him off, he would just come physically attack us.
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:He knows we both are, or at least he knows he's carrying a weapon.
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:Mortis, do you normally carry a weapon on you?
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:I currently have three weapons on me.
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:knives.
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:think he'd be pretty safe feeling like we'll take care of this.
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:So, oh, nice.
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:Yeah, I think I see you take the picture and I'm like, yeah, all I could think to do is
pop him in the back of the head, but killing the guy in the middle of the street is
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:probably not good, so better idea.
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:Yeah, I liked what you were doing, but this is a little cleaner, I think.
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:You gonna send that to the police?
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:Yeah, at some point, I guess maybe we can run it through like uh the FBI's.
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:I don't know, something.
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:He's like, don't fucking know, man.
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:I'm a corporate.
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:Cool if any of were involved in the FBI.
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:Yeah, that's really unhelpful to be a non-agent person.
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:So that's a good learning point.
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:Sucks to suck.
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:I think you suggested it and we just chose to do different, so that's all.
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:I can ski really fast and shoot really well and I don't know what the fuck else I do.
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:Alright, well, ah yeah, we should probably let the police know that this guy was planning
to shoot up a clinic, so, you know.
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:Yeah, we can maybe circle back on that after we finish talking with this Or figure out
what's happening with Roger Douglas again back to Roger Douglas.
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:Do Did we I'm a little I'm honestly I'm a little nervous.
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:He's gonna have a freak out here uh Well, I don't know about seeing guys he doesn't know
who we are but if we confront him about anything so
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:He used to be with the program.
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:ah it seems...
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:you.
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:He's going around, uh you know, doing program stuff.
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:If he's got dementia, maybe he's trying to like complete some mission or he thinks he's
like, you know, out on an opera or whatever.
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:Maybe if we just convince the doctor to let us talk to him alone a little bit and we tell
him like, hey, look, man, we're all on the same team here.
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:Maybe we can fix this together.
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:You know, I'm happy to try that if you think it's gonna work.
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:I'm a little more inclined just to let him go and watch what he does now that we've got a
tracker on his car and that we know where he's going, quite honestly.
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:But I'm happy to sit in a room with him and try to get some information from him if you
think it would help.
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:Yeah, you know, I think with just the two of us being here and us not having a car,
probably not confronting him is the best way to go.
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:We've got the tracker.
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:We can find out where he went.
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:We can get a little bit more information about what happened at his house whenever we
talked to Magpie and Miles.
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:And we can follow up with Kramer, she said she wants to meet the Doc.
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:So I think we just hang out here, maybe, you know, pop a squat in the waiting room or
whatever, see what happens.
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:then after his appointment's done, we talk to the good doc.
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:think, um, Mole is looking for like one of the newspaper dispenser things so that he can
have like a newspaper sitting up in front of him while he sits in the waiting room.
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:I think I'd grab newspaper, um, be like, you okay just sitting here and waiting with any
Morrison?
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:You know, the dream thing's weird.
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:You know, that guy was coming here to kill people.
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:He said he was doing it because he had a dream.
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:I'm kind of wondering if the girl at the gas station and the guy driving that F-150 in the
park didn't maybe, you know, have the same thing.
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:Hey Jimmy, can I get a power check?
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:Hey Sam, can I get a power check?
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:17 which uh
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:I do think that, quite honestly, uh, Mole is like, hey, Morrison, I get it, but, uh, maybe
try not to think too hard about this.
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:We got three things we need to get done, and the more you think about it, the worse off
you are.
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:It's not like I've ever, you know, thought my way out of one of these things.
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:So, I get what you're saying.
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:I'm pretty happy that you're, you're doing this, but I feel like that's the dangerous
route to go down with all this.
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:Yeah, that's the advice I just gave Miles before they left.
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:uh know I just said I should follow my own advice, but uh I'm going to not follow it one
more time.
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:One of our objectives was to find out who he might be working with.
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:And I don't think he's working with these people per se, but maybe the same thing that's
happened to him has happened to them.
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:Maybe we uh put a word into Madison and see if someone can track any
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:you know, random acts of violence in other places around the area.
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:Okay, think Mole like walks in.
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:right.
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:Yeah, I follow you.
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:I mean, I think he gives you a nod, but em I think Mo walks in.
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:Did ever take the new cell phone back from whoever?
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:I gave it to.
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:I reckon you must die.
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:Yeah, I probably just while we're sitting there in the waiting room I text Madison like
hey, you know put a word out for any acts of random violence.
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:Yeah, like in the Seattle and the...
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:You get a thumbs up emotion.
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:Um, what's the waiting room like?
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:It's by appointment only, so there isn't really anyone waiting.
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:Expect the next patient is going to be in shortly before their appointment, but ah you are
halfway between sessions now, so it's just you.
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:Is there a front desk person that we would talk to?
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:Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anything we'd actually want to know.
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:Morrison, do you think there's anything we could glean from this?
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:don't, my sense is we should just sit here and kind of wait to see if we can get us see
him and
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:Yeah, I was trying to think of the same thing.
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:We've already got someone with a bunch of information who's waiting to talk to us and
willing.
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:I guess we should probably talk about our story.
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:She already knows you.
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:Yeah, maybe I just sit out in the waiting room while you talk to her.
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:I mean, I'm happy if that's what you want to do.
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:Happy to go in there by myself and talk with her.
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:You look at introduce you as my partner.
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:I was Officer Harrison, so...
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:noise.
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:We gonna good cop bad cop this situation or what?
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:Maybe we just try to normal it, you know?
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:Good cop, good cop goes a long way too.
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:Yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking
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:Uh, not sure you really know me then, Morrison.
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:I- Not really, Miss Dial.
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:I know it's not, I'm asking you to try, bud.
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:I think he pulls out the paper and starts reading the paper waiting for to see if we can
get a catch of Roger Douglas I guess actually before we pause what for that I do think
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:that like he puts up the paper and then puts it down and he's like It is it crazy to not
just fucking tackle this guy and take him with us I mean we had this the whole thing was
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:we were supposed to figure out what's happening with him We have him in front of us.
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:You know, part of me wants to do that.
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:Part of me also doesn't want to draw the attention of just tackling a guy in front of
everyone.
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:And what are we gonna do with him?
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:I think Mole literally just looks at you and nods like, yeah, like is should we do that?
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:That's literally what I'm asking you here, Morrison.
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:I feel like sometimes I make really stupid decisions, uh more so lately, so I'm just
trying to get a gauge here of how stupid that is.
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:you know if we do that we probably won't be able to talk to the doctor.
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:Um, if we tackle him, what's our story?
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:He made a threatening move?
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:Actually, I've got this extra gun.
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:I could just plant it on him.
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:He's got a gun!
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:how we could.
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:Now, I'm obviously the handler, but I have a question about your plan.
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:Why aren't you just holding a gun to him and saying get in the car?
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:you actually going to tackle him?
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:It had crossed my mind to break into his car, sit in the back seat, and then when he gets
in, just pop up and put the gun to the back of his head.
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:did cross my mind that I do that while Mole stays here and talks to the doctor.
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:Does Morrison say that out loud?
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:Moll is like, what the fuck, dude?
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:Why aren't we doing that?
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:I just stand up I'm like and walk back out and I'm not sure how I'm gonna break into his
car though
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:criminology.
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:I don't have much in that.
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:Jimmy into his car in broad daylight.
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:Nope, I failed.
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:Yeah, so you try-
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:the code hanger trick, but you don't have a code hanger, so you thought maybe you could do
it with a shoelace, but it's really not working.
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:Maybe have a second try to Jimmy DeLock on account his name is Jimmy Sure
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:Why not?
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:fuck, that's a six on a ten.
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:Yeah, you know, the shoelace really just needed persistence.
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:That's what I'm saying, you just gotta try again sometimes, honestly.
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:Just gotta try again!
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:Yeah, you had a little noose on the end of the shoelace and you get it hooked around
the...
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:Like you both look at each other like, huh
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:So Mul is like sort of leaning there and like sort of stretching in front of the...
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:He's got his newspaper and somebody comes up, it's like, what's going on?
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:He's like, nothing, nothing.
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:What's up
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:I'm like, buy low, sell high.
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:And I guess is the stealth to not only like get in without being noticed but to like hide
behind the seat so that he doesn't sure okay just
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:Do we just want, okay, I'm glad that this we totally changed the plan on Magpie and Miles.
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:This is excellent.
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:Morrison, looks like you're pretty snug back there.
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:Do you think I should go back in and watch and wait for him or it's, I don't know if both
of us are gonna fit back there.
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:could pop the trunk and you could hide back there.
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:This does prevent us from talking to the doctor though so maybe you stay and talk to her.
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:I'll stay, I'll talk to the doctor.
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:We'll, yep, that's a good plan.
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:Be clear.
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:No, yeah.
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:Uh, yeah, so I think Mole walks back into the place and just sits again with his newspaper
and his watching, so...
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:Alright, yeah.
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:30 minutes tick by.
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:The next appointment comes in.
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:Morrison gets a text.
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:Hmm, uh I forward that text to Mole.
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:Or you- yeah, you got mics on.
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:You just say, now.
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:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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:I think I get up and non-gelently stride to the door with my best business power kind of
posing and open How does he keep it so...
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:casual.
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:Yeah, you walk into room.
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:It's got uh three large stuffed chairs.
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:In one of them is a middle aged woman, um long black hair.
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:And in the other is a rather scruffy man that you recognize as Roger Douglas.
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:Hi, I'm Dr.
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:Kramer.
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:I believe we spoke on the phone.
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:She stands up to shake your hand.
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:The ultimate splitting the party and-
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:It really is.
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:uh
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:Have Roger Douglas.
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:um Hey Dr.
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:Kramer, it's good to meet you.
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:And who do we have over here?
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:Oh, Roger, hi.
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:And then I think I shake his hand.
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:uh Is it okay if I sit down?
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:Yeah, please.
438
:Give me a human.
439
:Yeah, I was trying to figure out a way if I could humint if she would like go along with a
lie, but I feel like that's a little too complicated.
440
:43 on a 60.
441
:Uh, Roger is staring at you pretty intently.
442
:Roger, it's, I wanted to sit down with Dr.
443
:Kramer here and have a discussion with you.
444
:em we, my number one goal here is to hear you out.
445
:And I hope that you understand that.
446
:Um, it sounds like you're in a very difficult position and we were called because people
are worried about you.
447
:And I, I wanted to hear what was going on with you.
448
:I'm really here to help you with Dr.
449
:Kramer.
450
:What's been going on lately?
451
:Nothing unusual.
452
:Nothing unusual, huh?
453
:Yeah.
454
:Kramer responding or Douglas responding?
455
:No, that's Douglas.
456
:Douglas says there's nothing unusual.
457
:Mm-hmm.
458
:Mm-hmm.
459
:Yeah, you know, you look like, uh, you look like somebody I used to work with.
460
:Really?
461
:Yeah.
462
:Who's that?
463
:I do, I kinda have one of those faces if you know what I mean.
464
:People see, who was that?
465
:I'm someone I used to work with.
466
:You know, you really remind we should chat after this, you know?
467
:Sure, sure.
468
:I'd love to chat right now.
469
:I'd kind of like to hear you.
470
:I know you said that nothing outside of the usual is happening for you.
471
:No, I've been really sick.
472
:I've got this thing going on, and he's looking at Irene.
473
:I've got this thing going on, and mental health and all that.
474
:It's more of the same.
475
:Nothing has changed.
476
:Nothing unusual has happened.
477
:Yeah, I'm sorry it couldn't be more help.
478
:No, that's okay.
479
:You know, I'm trying to like, I'm really trying to measure out, because although I have a
lot of persuade and humane and stuff, I do not feel like Agent Mole is particularly in
480
:tune with the emotional side of things.
481
:If that makes sense.
482
:He's far more like reading you for business reasons.
483
:I think he can definitely get a sense that this person is not in a good space, but I
really don't know how much he would feel comfortable delving into something.
484
:like that without Kramer uh stepping in.
485
:Yeah.
486
:So curiously are there any reactions perhaps that Kramer has that betrays the significance
of what Douglas is saying right like a commentary on how normal things are
487
:Sure?
488
:I get a sense of what Kramer's response to that is,
489
:I, Kramer, really surprised.
490
:Like re-prized.
491
:I think that I may turn to Dr.
492
:Kramer and say, Dr.
493
:Kramer, is that, do you feel like everything's been about status quo for him at this
point?
494
:Roger, you've been telling me about how much trouble you're in and how worried you are.
495
:at this point, Roger is like shaking his head like, no, shush, this is fine.
496
:And Roger says, OK, listen, I'm not comfortable with this.
497
:I'm sorry.
498
:I'll talk to either one of you alone, but I'm not going to talk to either both of you
together.
499
:I'm sorry, I'm...
500
:This is too much.
501
:Dr.
502
:Kramer, would it be okay if we sat here together a couple minutes?
503
:And Roger, if you're comfortable with that, em I have some questions that, quite honestly,
I'd rather ask you alone if that's okay.
504
:em Dr.
505
:Kramer, if you step out, if you don't feel comfortable with Dr.
506
:Kramer, that's totally fine too.
507
:eh
508
:Yuck.
509
:Okay.
510
:I'll be right on the other side of...
511
:Well, I'll be in the waiting room, okay?
512
:I'll be able to hear if anybody yells, so...
513
:I think when Kramer, Moll does not stand up.
514
:Moll's trying to very much portray like, cool, like we're just hanging out.
515
:This is totally okay.
516
:Let's Kramer get out of the room.
517
:um And the minute she's out, I think he takes a different stance.
518
:And that stance is he kind of leans forward.
519
:He puts his hands together, almost like conspiratorial with him is what he's trying to
portray.
520
:And he's like, hey, Roger.
521
:I don't know what's going on with you man.
522
:um What I do know is that I've been in position where I've been worried about maybe people
watching me and I want to help you.
523
:You know me.
524
:Yeah man.
525
:What do you mean?
526
:oh
527
:We gotta go.
528
:We gotta go.
529
:We gotta go.
530
:We gotta go now.
531
:We gotta leave.
532
:You gotta, listen, you gotta come to my house.
533
:I have something to show you.
534
:Come with me.
535
:I think with hearing Mole knowing that he introduced himself as Officer Harrison, can I
get a humint on that?
536
:I guess first off and then go ahead, I do think he's 23 on my 60.
537
:He is looking real weird.
538
:He's acting weird and you don't like it.
539
:What are you looking to get from that human?
540
:Um, my main thing is, do I feel like he is going to, uh, eminently cause me harm?
541
:Um, or is...
542
:Okay.
543
:a three.
544
:Holy shit, hell yeah.
545
:3 is not going to do it.
546
:Oddly enough.
547
:I think that if he does not feel like that he's an imminent harm with this guy, um I think
he is probably, and hearing his own, his agent name, I think he's like, okay, I gotta go.
548
:I'm happy.
549
:You're taking me back to your place.
550
:Is that right?
551
:Knowing that A, Morrison is in the backseat and B, Miles and Magpie are at the house
currently.
552
:I think he feels pretty comfortable being like, let's fucking go back there, man.
553
:Like if some shit happens, we can do that.
554
:Yeah, that sounds good.
555
:um Does Kramer know about this?
556
:And he kind of, you know, swirls his finger.
557
:Yes, to a degree.
558
:I gave her a uh dead man switch.
559
:die.
560
:uh Certain information will be released and I'm hopeful that it will ah help.
561
:I'll tell you more.
562
:We can't talk here.
563
:Okay.
564
:em With our, just, you, could, can Morrison hear this, do you think, or do you think I'd
have to like actively do something to get more-
565
:I to actively do something, but I'll let you roll luck.
566
:Okay.
567
:And really, I am not even sure what I want.
568
:That's a 16, so.
569
:Part of me wants to say, like, stand down, Morrison, but another part of me is like, dude,
just fucking hide back.
570
:If I- I would assume the way these things probably function is like I can't hear what he's
saying but I can hear what you're saying and I could probably glean the gist of what's
571
:happening.
572
:I was thinking like probably when you guys come get in the car I would let him sit and I
wouldn't like pop up gun to his head and say anything I would just point my pistol at the
573
:back of the seat like roughly center mass so that if he tries anything I just blast him
through the seat.
574
:Okay.
575
:Yeah.
576
:Yeah.
577
:Roger.
578
:That sounds great.
579
:We're going to make it back to your car.
580
:I'll let you take me there.
581
:uh Back to your place.
582
:It's safe there, right?
583
:oh Okay.
584
:Okay.
585
:Okay.
586
:Let's do it.
587
:And then I think truly I think Moulk gets up and I think maybe in a show of knowing that
he with that human, he didn't see imminent danger.
588
:I think he's trying to portray to some degree like
589
:Okay, so he gets up first and starts walking and is like, let's go, you know?
590
:Cool.
591
:Okay.
592
:When Kramer is on the outside, I guess, I think uh I'm like, uh Dr.
593
:Kramer, uh Roger and I are gonna go have a discussion about everything that's gone down.
594
:ah If you need to reach me, I'm happy to, you know, you know, anything.
595
:I want to keep Roger safe.
596
:I think this is probably the safest plan, just so you know.
597
:Okay, well, if Roger is okay with this, then I am too, okay?
598
:Okay, okay, and then I think we head to the call.
599
:Roger gets in the car.
600
:Yeah.
601
:Roger gets in the front seat.
602
:Do you happen to remember what your stealth check was, Morrison?
603
:It does not matter.
604
:I got a 96.
605
:Not gonna do it.
606
:Gets in the front seat and as soon as the door shuts, he starts talking.
607
:He's talking about how like...
608
:So I set up Dead Man Switch.
609
:Will the there's there's too many heads and I can't handle it on my own.
610
:I tried contacting the program, but you guys cut me off.
611
:I'm so glad you're here.
612
:This is I need your help.
613
:We need I'll I'll show you everything.
614
:It's it's you.
615
:You need to trust me.
616
:It'll be OK.
617
:It'll be fine.
618
:ah I'll I'll I'll show you when we get there.
619
:And it it it it was.
620
:You were there.
621
:I think first, an attempt at kind of empathy, is repeating everything he's saying so that
it gets broadcasted as much as possible to Miles and Magpie so that they know.
622
:know I mean?
623
:Like he's like, when he says something like that, he kind of puts it back over.
624
:you made a dead man switch.
625
:Yeah, too many heads you say and we're heading back to your house and you're going to show
us that just so that everybody is on the same page with him.
626
:ha- it, yeah.
627
:It happened.
628
:It happened.
629
:What do mean?
630
:What do you mean when you say I was I was there?
631
:What's that?
632
:Hello, legacy.
633
:was when we...
634
:It was there.
635
:It was there.
636
:You were there.
637
:And, uh, does Morrison pop up at all during this?
638
:Are you just gonna chill for the whole...
639
:...dear drive?
640
:Just imagine how much weirder it gets if you show off-
641
:I know that's kind of what I'm like.
642
:I don't want to like spook him You know, can I text mole and be like tell him I'm in the
backseat be like hey I don't want you to freak out but my partner's here, too
643
:yeah, just so I guess full transparency here, because you have been pretty upfront with
me, we have somebody else here with us.
644
:em another agent- They're here in the car with us.
645
:Another agent.
646
:you know, we didn't know what to expect.
647
:You know you've been on these missions before.
648
:You know you've done these things.
649
:We did not know what to expect.
650
:I understand you are in a bad place and we're truly trying to help you here.
651
:So I would, I just, I'm trying to be as transparent as I can with you, And then we...
652
:hand slowly reaches up and he sees it in the rear view and then I just wait
653
:Uh, gimme alertness again, Mul.
654
:Holy shit is 16 on a 21.
655
:Hell yeah, his hand went to his side very quickly.
656
:I think Mole is uh like, he doesn't like move to like disarm him at all.
657
:He puts his hands like, I understand that this is scary and I understand who.
658
:This is Agent Morrison behind me.
659
:And I think because I think probably at this point, Mole is at least quasi has realized he
can potentially use this to his advantage.
660
:Actually is what it is.
661
:uh So this is Agent Morrison.
662
:He's.
663
:one of our guys.
664
:You're aware?
665
:Okay, so you know.
666
:So, okay.
667
:Can you elaborate on that?
668
:Got it.
669
:What should we call you, Agent?
670
:Liam.
671
:Nice to meet you.
672
:Who's got the burner phone?
673
:I do.
674
:I do want to while we're driving, because we...
675
:You've done all the transactions with Kramer from that phone, so she thinks it's your
phone.
676
:I want to text her something to the effect of...
677
:He's dead.
678
:Target's done and then be like whoops wrong number
679
:Yeah, no, something along the lines of like, ah the materials that he left with you may be
potentially dangerous.
680
:We'll send someone to pick them up as soon as possible.
681
:you don't get a response.
682
:Yeah, I worried about that.
683
:Yeah, you roll up to a house in front of a grade school.
684
:There's an orchard out back.
685
:uh He parks the car on the street instead of in the driveway.
686
:what, if anything, do Agent Miles and I notice eh from the residents or nearabouts as they
687
:up.
688
:Give me alertness from the basement.
689
:Yeah, is 89 good?
690
:Is that a good?
691
:87
692
:Not- OHHHH
693
:That's surprising to me because that is what I just rolled.
694
:Check that box.
695
:It's already checked for me.
696
:How about you?
697
:did- where has Miles been?
698
:Sick.
699
:Yep.
700
:So I was thinking when we cut about or reading this mother Hydra thing and putting
together something about squid, Fosgene.
701
:Were there any sand costs for that?
702
:Yes.
703
:Yeah.
704
:Nick, before you do that, could I have one thing I think I would like to do when we're
getting out?
705
:In that period of time when he's like opening his door and I'm imagining this and, Pedro,
tell me if this is wrong, I imagine he gets out in B lines a little bit waiting for us to
706
:come around.
707
:I do think that either myself or Morrison either, I mean, I think I would just quickly say
something like, somebody call Kramer and then like get out and try to like follow him
708
:around to be the lead.
709
:like his, you know, his handler basically, because I think that knowing that there was no
response, I would want to uh make sure that like something catastrophic hasn't happened.
710
:Yeah.
711
:Kramer, you mean.
712
:Yeah, Kramer, Dr.
713
:Kramer.
714
:Yeah, I call.
715
:Do we do the police scanner thing on this phone or can I do that on this phone?
716
:Sure, but you're downloading an app onto a phone while you're walking into this guy's
house to have a conversation with him.
717
:Yeah.
718
:Yeah.
719
:Hey!
720
:On our little private network, however we've been communicating through walkie-talkies and
the like, has there been any heads up that these two are rolling our way- Yeah, alright.
721
:I thought, Sam, you said that you like specifically-
722
:know I would be the whole time like talking to him and like what I would be saying is like
so you know in between his ran Roger you live out here
723
:on 45th Street uh
724
:So you made a left on and like just like going through kind of that so you guys oh
725
:Sir Wellow.
726
:Yeah, we'll be trying to wrap that up and get to an easy exit if eh he's intent on coming
slamming in.
727
:Is there anything we've been elbows deep in in the meantime searching?
728
:depends on if you opened that laptop or not.
729
:Yeah, he would have opened the laptop.
730
:I interrupted your sand rule also, so sorry.
731
:In which case...
732
:Nick.
733
:You...
734
:Nick, there's two things you notice about this.
735
:The first is there's a toggle switch manually installed on the side, drilled into the
machine.
736
:Does it say Hunter Biden anywhere on the side?
737
:It's just an important check, you'll understand.
738
:Yeah, just in case.
739
:Yeah, I don't know.
740
:When I see that, my alarm bells would go off.
741
:I'm paranoid about booby traps.
742
:ah My alertness or my...
743
:uh
744
:I'll you roll computer science.
745
:sure yeah let's see looking for under 60 got a 65 over yeah absolutely i'll spend my luck
yeah
746
:Alright, uh that is positioned almost exactly over where a netbooks wifi card is.
747
:Okay, yeah.
748
:Is it off?
749
:While it's off, I'll open it.
750
:You open it up.
751
:There's no login screen.
752
:It just opens.
753
:You get a driver error.
754
:No Wi-Fi card detected.
755
:The Wi-Fi turns on.
756
:Crazy as dat.
757
:Yeah, and I'm assuming the computer starts up or not.
758
:computer was already on.
759
:I just sent a little zip file in the chat.
760
:If you want to unzip that somewhere on your computer and run the index.html
761
:Yeah, in truth, for the record, I absolutely do not want to do this.
762
:Uh, but as-
763
:You do not have to.
764
:Yeah, it's pretty sick.
765
:I fucking love this.
766
:Okay, wait is this Mylesnose Mandarin?
767
:Yeah, he's Chinese language Mandarin.
768
:Uh, you can just read this.
769
:I don't know Mandarin, but when I clicked this button that just said English, it all
magically popped into a language I could read.
770
:Don't auto-translate that, hey wait!
771
:Okay, I won't, I won't.
772
:It literally popped up and was like, do you want to turn this into English?
773
:And I was like, yeah, why not?
774
:My puzzle.
775
:Okay, so this is like a...
776
:it's a magic method relying on gestures to summon memories.
777
:summon memories.
778
:Yeah, my translator might be.
779
:Do you have an English translation yourself or?
780
:Uh, that is, uh, is definitely not to summon memories.
781
:All right, regarding fuzzy memory here, I use a different translator.
782
:Memory is an illusion.
783
:The following is a magical method relying on hand gestures to negate that may negate
recollection.
784
:Vague memories require no material components, but the gestures must be extremely precise.
785
:Each gesture must be performed with in the correct rhythm and beat lasting the appropriate
duration.
786
:The gesture must be completed with set.
787
:Within seven seconds, passing through the head and flowing through the body, the first
gesture is made out of reverence.
788
:The passage between memory and forgetting is the domain of laikisothos.
789
:Therefore, we begin with a black right hand gesture, the sign of respect for the master.
790
:The most difficult part of this gesture is the index and ring fingers.
791
:The gesture must be held for less than a second.
792
:Huh.
793
:Do you me to read this whole thing?
794
:You can if you like.
795
:Hell yeah.
796
:Yeah, the second gesture is to call upon the victim.
797
:You must address the victim verbally.
798
:You don't need to know their name, but you must address them verbally.
799
:Raise your hand to your shoulder height, hold for two seconds, then make the gesture shown
in the image.
800
:And it's holding down the ring finger.
801
:The third gesture is drawn from top to bottom, held for little over three seconds.
802
:Twist your wrist so that your palm is at a 50 degree angle to the ground.
803
:The last gesture is a sweep.
804
:It only lasts one second, and you must quickly flick your wrists.
805
:And that's it.
806
:The top should be links to home.
807
:The rest of this is a, it appears to be a scrape of a Chinese blog about ritualism and
various other...
808
:Hell yeah.
809
:but it doesn't.
810
:geometric gang signs is what we're getting at.
811
:by Douglas, just practiced by him.
812
:Yeah, okay, I'm definitely like taking notes down on this.
813
:23 under.
814
:Sounds good.
815
:So anyways, you're elbow deep in that when the front door opens.
816
:Yeah, um we- I would have gone to the backyard.
817
:Well, no, I guess I would have- I would have been in the kitchen in the back.
818
:Yeah.
819
:Front door opens, and it's Roger Douglas followed by Morrison and Mull.
820
:And I think you hear us loudly announcing ourselves, right?
821
:Like, again, me just repeating what he says in a quite a bit louder than probably what
needs to be.
822
:You have a beautiful entryway.
823
:Yeah, a lovely front door.
824
:Yes my shoes off.
825
:Sorry
826
:I would just know that like, it's, you know, like he's made a connection with you guys.
827
:um And then just say, don't be alarmed.
828
:um There are two other people here and I'll, unless Magpie took off, I don't think he did.
829
:Then I'll step out.
830
:Yeah, I didn't want to like talk over people, but I assumed when we like pulled up in park
and we're walking to the house, either Moll or I would have told him like, hey, there's
831
:also two other agents in our cell.
832
:They're meeting us here.
833
:Yeah, I think so.
834
:think that at this point, I'm like sucked in enough that I think I'm probably just gonna
be upfront with them about it and be like, Miles and Magpie are in there and we're gonna
835
:just like let them know they're gonna come out slowly.
836
:is easiest to break it that way.
837
:Well, when he's got the four of you together, ah he detonates his vest.
838
:No.
839
:uh
840
:You lose!
841
:oh
842
:He goes over to a shelf with a...
843
:uh one of half a dozen banker boxes.
844
:You all...
845
:You were there.
846
:With me.
847
:We were there.
848
:We were there on the island for High Low Legacy.
849
:The four of you and me.
850
:uh We went to San Juan Island for High Low Legacy.
851
:We were sent there.
852
:uh
853
:You're saying high low legacy, is that right?
854
:Key low.
855
:Does this mean anything to me at all?
856
:Um, do you look at the- he's trying to pass you, like, information, like, printouts and
shit from the bankers box.
857
:He's pressing it, like, into your hands.
858
:I don't know, I almost think I may pass it on to Morrison.
859
:I may be trying to do the talking and be like, Hilo legacy, you say, yeah, let me more and
then he's just like, is, you know, trying to like pass it back.
860
:extremely interesting.
861
:What are you talking about exactly?
862
:Maybe I do remember that.
863
:I think I take it and I like, how much stuff is it?
864
:I mean, is it like a stack of papers or?
865
:It's just tons of shit.
866
:The stuff at the top is about a murder on San Juan Island in...
867
:2020.
868
:I mean, I probably, if there's any kind of like titles or if it, this is me stealing a
little bit from real life, but like we review a shit ton of medical records and you kind
869
:of get to the point where it's like, you just know from like the format of the page, like
is this something I care about or not?
870
:And like anytime I get like, yeah.
871
:And so if it's just all like standard stuff, I'm like, okay, this is just like police
reports or whatever, top page, top page.
872
:reports, it's news reports.
873
:It is about shit that happened on August 15th, 2020.
874
:you're looking at it and and and Roger's talking and he's talking about how you guys were
there with him and you saw the thing and you were you were there when she she came here
875
:now and you remember it.
876
:And you were there for Operation Hilo Legacy.
877
:That happened.
878
:That existed.
879
:You went to San Juan Island in 2020 with, as he was introduced to you, Agent Liam.
880
:You recognize him.
881
:He's much worse for wear, but you met this man for three days in August of 2020.
882
:This is a weird question and I've never asked this I think before in a game.
883
:But can I humint myself?
884
:Or like do a power roll on myself?
885
:Or whatever?
886
:Which do you want?
887
:Humint?
888
:Take a shit.
889
:Okay.
890
:I'll do pow because my humint's terrible so.
891
:ah That's an 82 which is a fail.
892
:Fuck it, I'm gonna spin my luck to humint my or power roll myself because I want to know
what happens.
893
:So 28.
894
:Yeah, this is a thing that happened to you and you forgot about it.
895
:This is...
896
:It was ugly and bloody and terrible and you forgot all about it until just now.
897
:And it's fucked up that you didn't remember this.
898
:And the whole time he's talking about how like, Lorelei Jackson died and he's talking
about all these sh...
899
:these...
900
:Mass violence events that that every time he brings one up it sparks a memory But these
they did happen.
901
:They didn't happen.
902
:You don't remember them, but they you know, they did happen He's got the news articles in
front of you, but you kind of remember But it wasn't a big deal at the time, but also 50
903
:people died It's and it was all over the news for a day, but maybe that's it
904
:It's just Morrison's mentality that's getting tangled up in it.
905
:Anybody looking at the papers who's experiencing this.
906
:I do think that if Mole sees Morrison looking at the papers in distress, ah he's probably
going to be like, A.
907
:Not look at them, quite honestly, and B.
908
:ah Look at Douglas and be like, hey man, what's going on?
909
:What the fuck is going on?
910
:I'm here, I'm listening to you, this doesn't look good.
911
:I'm telling the fuck is going on?
912
:Morrison knows.
913
:Morrison knows what happened.
914
:Yeah.
915
:Morrison was there.
916
:You were there.
917
:Magpie was there.
918
:Miles was there.
919
:And Morrison can remember because he's looking at it right now.
920
:uh but my immediate thought is to pull a Doctor Who and get a magic marker and like write
on my arm every time I remember the thing when I'm looking at it.
921
:You're absolutely allowed to.
922
:Okay, do I assume I need to roll grip for this?
923
:Okay, that's a three.
924
:I'm apparently very cool with what's happening.
925
:a point of grip.
926
:Is anyone else- is- is- Morrison the only one looking at these?
927
:mean, Miles would definitely walk over there and start grabbing things.
928
:He's trying to pass these out to every- Oh.
929
:just happens to be uh shunting them.
930
:Yep.
931
:Yeah, is, I think at some point watching reactions Mol's like, you guys know how fucked up
I am from that last mission we were on.
932
:I need you guys to let me know if I can look at this or not.
933
:Otherwise, I'm just going to keep an eye on Douglas.
934
:No, no, and when he starts to hand it to other people after if I'm within my mind to do it
You can tell me if not Patrick I start to like grab them from other people and like no
935
:these are These are are kind of weird my sense is that what he's saying is true and we
need to like probably not
936
:You not want everyone else to remember Operation Hilo Legacy.
937
:I don't want them to go nuts.
938
:guess can I relate to them what I experienced?
939
:like, he, when I look at these, I remember being there as though it happened.
940
:And I sat here for a minute with myself and asked myself, do I feel like this is true or
do I feel like it's a dream?
941
:And it feels like it's true, an authentic memory of a thing that happened.
942
:So if you guys want to look-
943
:recount the of- I'm sorry.
944
:Yeah, no, that's fine.
945
:Yeah, I would recount the events.
946
:You recount the events of Operation High-Low Legacy?
947
:Mm-hmm.
948
:Yeah.
949
:Okay.
950
:Then, uh, two things happen.
951
:The first thing that happens is I want a sand check from everyone.
952
:11 under critical success.
953
:Holy shit, a fucking 24 under my head.
954
:yeah, everyone loses one point of sanity.
955
:All that NOS holding you together.
956
:Yeah.
957
:All that and us.
958
:And the second thing that happens is that we move into the second scenario of Demnatio
th,:
959
:Legacy rules.
960
:Yeah, I fucking love that.
961
:Love that's what do.
962
:Hell yeah.
963
:If there's time and you can tell me if not, I would probably also use the phone to like
snap pictures of it and send them to Madison and probably also ask like do you have
964
:records that we were there?
965
:Because even though I know it happened, I still am not.
966
:You absolutely send those pictures and texts to Madison.
967
:for sure blow up her life.