In part 5 of the Sermon on the Mount, we explore what Jesus meant when He tells us to forgive as we forgive others.
Microphone (ZOOM P4 Audio): I
think I should introduce this one.
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:Go ahead.
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:All right.
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:We are on part five of the Lord's prayer.
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:And we're looking at this, trying
to understand, not just the words
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:which are repeated so often.
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:But the meaning of them, the
template that Jesus gives us.
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:And today we come to the fifth part.
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:Forgive us, our debts, as we
also have forgiven our debtors.
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:Yeah, I like this one.
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:Cause, I mean, I've heard of God
forgiving us of our sins, of course.
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:Sure.
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:But debts, I mean, As a recent
college and seminary grad.
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:I like the sound of this one.
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:Yeah.
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:Please forgive me of my.
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:relinquishing me and my dad's.
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:That'd be a nice letter
to get in the mail when.
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:Yeah.
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:Uh, so for real though,
why does Jesus instruct us?
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:To ask God to forgive us
of our quote unquote debts.
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:What does that mean?
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:Yeah.
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:Can you help us understand
that a little bit, please?
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:In the Bible, there are three
main words for the moral wrongs.
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:We commit.
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:The first is sin, which basically
has the idea of breaking.
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:A rightful command and the second is
trespasses, which speak of going beyond.
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:Our rightful limits,
just like trespassing.
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:And the third is debt, which has the idea
of not fulfilling our rifle obligations.
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:Hm.
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:No.
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:These are often tied together.
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:They're kind of different ways
of looking at the same action.
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:But together they show why
it's wrong in one emphasizes.
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:that in ways youngers don't perhaps.
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:For example.
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:Adultery is a very obvious, moral, wrong.
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:But why.
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:Well, first it's a sin.
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:Because it breaks God's
command against it.
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:Secondly, it is a trespass.
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:For the person who does this
is using the gift of sex beyond
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:its rightful limits in marriage.
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:And the third is a debt.
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:Because faithfulness is what our
spouse has a rightful expectation for.
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:So why does Jesus in this passage say
we were asking God to forgive our debts
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:instead of our sins or trespasses.
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:I think.
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:To remind us that we owe something to God.
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:And we often fail in that obligation.
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:So, what does that mean?
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:What does it mean that
we owe something to God?
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:Well, it means that God, by the
very fact of who he is and what he's
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:done for us has a rightful claim to
some sort of response on our part.
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:And that idea shouldn't
be too strange for us.
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:People in our lives often have
a rightful claims upon us.
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:Based on who they are.
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:Based on what they've done.
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:My wife has a rifle claim.
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:I have my faithfulness.
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:Yeah, but also my kindness, my
help, my time and attention.
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:Right.
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:But I made a random woman in the store.
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:She doesn't.
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:Because she's not my wife.
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:So if that's true, well, God
certainly has rightful claims upon us.
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:Because of who he is.
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:And because of what he's done.
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:He is our creator.
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:We are here at the will of another person.
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:And not only that he is also our savior.
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:Jesus has given.
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:His own life to save us from since.
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:So if we have rightful
obligations to anyone it's got.
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:Yeah.
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:Now there's a little bit of
the flip side here too, though.
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:Right?
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:He goes on to say.
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:That we, uh, forgive others as well.
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:Yeah, you ties those two together.
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:We forgive others, their debts against us.
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:Yeah.
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:People in a sense are also indebted to me.
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:My wife, in a sense, owes
me faithfulness in love and
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:kindness of intention and time.
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:She owes me that in the right way, in
the same way that I heard those things.
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:Yeah, not that I'm trying to control her.
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:But just that my covenant
with her in marriage as well.
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:So I've done for her.
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:Has created that same rightful response.
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:That her covenant with me and the way
she's treated me so well over the years.
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:That's created on my side.
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:My friends.
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:You could say.
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:Also owe me some sort of behavior,
to be honest, to be kind.
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:That's what friendship is all about.
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:My parents and children, you
know, parents of children.
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:Oh, each.
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:Oh, the things by virtue
of their relationships.
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:but here's the thing.
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:They will fail.
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:We all will fail.
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:They will fail either not to do
directly with this should not do.
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:Or more commonly failed to do
something that they should.
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:Your husband.
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:Your wife will fail.
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:You.
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:Your parents build you.
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:They were not completely all that
they should have been in that role.
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:Even the best periods your children
will appeal to give you the honor
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:and gratitude and help they should.
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:Your siblings, your friends are
going to fail to speak to you
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:and kindness and grace and love.
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:You're going to say hurtful things.
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:How do you respond?
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:Yeah.
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:So it's important to not just seek
the forgiveness of God, but also to
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:extend that forgiveness to others.
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:I think in doing that, we are.
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:Being God-like because we're
forgiving just as he's forgiven us.
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:Yeah.
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:We are.
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:And we're also showing
that we have entered now.
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:Into that kingdom of God,
the kingdom marked by grace.
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:I remember preaching this
passage once many years ago.
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:And I wanted a visual
illustration, so I bought some.
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:Blank poker chips.
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:And then I designed.
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:It arborous and reverse the face and
the tails for each of those chips,
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:because I was going to make them a coin.
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:The point of the kingdom of grace.
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:And on the one side, it said.
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:You are forgiven entirely by grace.
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:And the other side said.
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:You are to forgive
others entirely by grace.
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:And my point was is I handed
those out to everybody.
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:This is the coin.
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:Each of the kingdom.
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:This is the currency
of the kingdom of God.
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:And if you accept this
as legal tender for you.
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:You have to also stepped giving that
kind of legal tender to other people.
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:I love that.
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:That's a, but that's not easy.
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:No.
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:It's not.
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:I feel like this gets to the question
and that is, is worth, I think getting
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:a little bit of clarity on, and that is.
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:So, what is.
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:Forgiveness.
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:What does it mean to forgive?
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:Others.
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:cause I feel like there's a
lot of confusion about that.
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:How do I know if I've forgiven now?
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:If I'm still upset or yeah.
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:just forgiveness being, I have to.
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:Invite that person back into my
life and restore the relationship.
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:At restore the relationship.
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:It just feels like there's
a lot of confusion.
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:So.
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:Um, What does it mean to forget?
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:Yeah.
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:I'm glad you asked that because.
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:When we are hurt, our emotions
are probably born and charts
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:that are logic, right.
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:And so we can respond emotionally
interpret things by our emotions.
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:But forgiveness primarily
is an act of the will.
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:And now to the emotion.
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:It is simply this.
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:You are choosing.
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:To not respond to them.
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:Based on what they have done.
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:Or are doing to you?
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:Or what they fail to do for you.
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:You let them off the hook.
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:You choose to want and seek their best.
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:Despite what they've done.
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:Or what they're doing to you.
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:Now.
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:This is not minimizing the offense.
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:If it's not a real offense,
you don't have to do this.
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:It's just an annoyance.
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:this is a minimizing the offense.
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:This is picking a seriously.
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:It's not saying, well, what they did to
me, wasn't that bad or anything like
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:that, and it's not necessarily restoring.
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:Trust.
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:Yeah.
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:Or restoring the relationship.
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:It may.
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:, it may clear away the rebel enough so
that the relationship can be restored.
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:But it takes two to tangle, right?
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:Yeah.
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:And sometimes.
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:The other person doesn't want to.
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:Yeah.
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:And then lastly forgiveness does not
mean that it won't hurt or that your
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:emotions will immediately get in line.
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:You might forgive someone,
but you're still hurt.
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:You're still angry.
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:You're still feeling all
kinds of negative emotions.
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:But you're choosing to reject the
desire to give back in some way.
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:Um, one illustration I've.
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:Thought of with this.
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:Is turning off the oven.
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:So, what I mean by that is.
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:thinkable light switch, right.
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:Yeah.
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:You turn off the light
switch and the NLS grew dark.
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:And if the room is not lit, otherwise.
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:The room goes dark.
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:And sometimes we think that when we
forgive someone that that's, what's
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:going to happen with our emotions.
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:Just going to go away.
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:But it's more like turning off the oven.
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:So if you've got that oven up at four 50
and you turn that off, does it immediately
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:go back down to room temperature?
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:It does not take the time.
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:Exactly.
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:Yeah.
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:And the hotter it was the longer it takes.
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:Yeah.
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:But.
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:It will get back there.
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:Right?
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:Yeah, it will get back there because you
made the decision and after the will.
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:To turn off the switch.
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:To quit feeding it more heat.
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:And that's what forgiveness is.
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:It's looking at what God has done for us.
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:And on the basis of that same,
I am choosing to let go of this.
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:I want God to bring in.
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:Whatever.
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:Payback or justice that he determines.
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:But My will is free in this.
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:I want through bets.
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:I really don't necessarily want
them to get payback because
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:I've been forgiven so much.
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:I'm just going to leave that all the guy.
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:And I'm going to try to love them.
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:As best as my emotions.
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:Well, that would be to do.
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:That's really helpful.
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:Because Sometimes it feels like if we
don't stay mad at that person, then.
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:They're off the hook.
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:It's like, I'm an acting
justice through my own.
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:Anger or bitterness towards them.
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:And that's hard because
that, that feels good.
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:And especially if they don't do
something that's illegal, then
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:it's like, it's not, they're gonna
go to jail for what they did.
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:Right.
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:You know, but, think.
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:That, what you just described
is really good because it
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:allows us to be free from it.
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:But not because what they did
wasn't bad or didn't hurt, but
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:just that we're interesting.
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:That the justice and the goodness
of God to bring about his right
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:response in this situation.
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:Right.
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:And so in that There is freedom.
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:And we're able to relinquish that to God.
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:Yeah.
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:And that is so freeing because it
allows you to let go of the bitterness.
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:Yeah.
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:Yeah.
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:And I know that there's all
kinds of, Not just spiritual.
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:Challenges to that, holding on to
bitterness and resentment, but physical
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:ailments that can come from that.
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:Yeah.
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:Giving into that.
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:And so what a gift that God has
forgiven us and that we understand
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:that, and that can free us to.
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:Forgive others.
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:Yeah.
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:I heard someone say, an old
proverb, not, not a biblical
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:proper, but some sort of proper.
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:That, Bitterness or unforgiveness
or the poison that we drink.
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:Hoping the other person dies.
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:Wow.
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:Wow.
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:It was a lot to that.
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:Yeah.
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:Well, thank you.
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:Yeah.
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:And let me go back to the
one thing that you said that.
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:It feels wrong to forgive sometimes.
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:I get it.
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:It seems to trivialize
the fence in the Hertz.
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:But the alternative is worse.
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:And ultimately we have to trust.
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:We have to trust that when we
forgive and let them off the hook.
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:We are not losing.
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:It may feel that way sometimes.
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:But the feeling and the
reality are different things.
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:After all.
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:If that feeling is true,
then the gospel is false.
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:Because no one has forgiven
more than Jesus himself.
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:And he didn't lose.